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Earnings Call: Q4 2024

Feb 13, 2025

Massimiliano Cominelli
VP of Investor Relations, ADNOC Drilling

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the ADNOC Drilling's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Earnings Webcast and Conference Call. My name is Max Cominelli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Before handing the floor over to our main speakers, I would like to draw your attention on the disclaimer that you will find on the second slide, which I encourage you to read carefully. The text contains important information. We advise caution on the interpretation and limits of historical data and forward-looking statements. I would like to remind you that this presentation and the recording of this call will be available on our website shortly after the end of the call. Today's presenters are our Chief Executive Officer, Abdulrahman Al Seiari, and our Chief Financial Officer, Youssef Salem. As always, after the presentation, we will have a Q&A session where we will be happy to answer your questions.

I will now hand over the call to our CEO, Mr. Abdulrahman, who will lead you through strategic developments and the key highlights of the quarter and full year.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Assalamu Alaikum. Good day to all. I'm pleased to share that we have delivered another year of exceptional growth, achieving record-breaking results in the fourth quarter and also the year. Our disciplined execution, expansion of our fleet, and commitment to operational excellence have enabled us to reinforce our position as the fastest-growing drilling company globally. We recorded a 32% year-on-year revenue increase to over $4 billion, reflecting the expansion of our fleet and strong oilfield services growth. Profitability was also strong, with EBITDA reaching $2 billion, as we continue to maintain an industry-leading margin of 50%. We reported a net profit of $1.3 billion, up 26% year-on-year, demonstrating our ability to deliver sustainable and growing returns.

On operations, our rig fleet reached 142 rigs, having added a total of 13 rigs throughout the year, including two jack-ups in the fourth quarter, which will start contributing to revenue during the first half of this year. This expansion has further strengthened our ability to support ADNOC's ambitious growth plan. Within our fleet, we perform integrated drilling services on 57 rigs, and also, we offer discrete services on another 48 rigs. We remain committed to maintaining the highest safety and environmental standards. In 2024, we achieved a total recordable incident rate of 0.46, outperforming our target and reinforcing our focus on operational safety. Additionally, our energy intensity stood at 2,565 gigajoules per $1 million of revenue, reflecting continued improvements in our environmental footprint.

Beyond our core financial and operational results, we achieved several key milestones throughout the year, including securing a contract of $1.7 billion for the unconventional business, making a major step in supporting our unconventional oil and gas expansion. Our joint venture, Enersol, has made strong progress in executing its growth pipeline. Over the year, we announced the acquisition of four tech-enabled oilfield service companies, strengthening our portfolio with cutting-edge solutions that enhance performance and efficiency. We have also strengthened our profile in the equity market through two transactions that increased our free float to 16.5%, significantly enhancing stock trading liquidity and allowing us to be included in the MSCI indexes, an important milestone that increased our appeal to investors. As we lay the foundation for future growth, our commitment to maximizing shareholder value remains top priority. Next slide, please. Growth remains at the core of ADNOC Drilling's strategy.

Through Enersol expansion, continued progress in the unconventional resources, and regional growth initiatives, we are strengthening our position as a leader in the drilling and oilfield services landscape. Enersol has established itself as an AI technology-focused oilfield services investment platform, acquiring four companies for around $800 million, representing around half of the committed capital. In the fourth quarter, Enersol signed the agreement to acquire a 95% equity stake in Deep Well Services for $223 million, a leading technology and services company specializing in high-pressure long lateral and multi-well completion and intervention operations. Enersol also closed its NTS Amega and EV acquisitions. Moving on Turnwell, the JV successfully delivered the first wells to ADNOC in under 16 days, setting a new benchmark for well delivery.

This serves as a very good start to fulfill the mandate of unlocking Abu Dhabi, the world-class unconventional energy resources, to meet growing global demand for affordable, accessible energy. Finally, we are making progress in expanding regionally and growing our drilling and oilfield services activities beyond the UAE. We have secured contract extension in Jordan, and we are targeting to potentially operate in Kuwait and Oman. As always, I am optimistic about ADNOC Drilling's future as we continue to advance the UAE's energy ambitions. I will now hand over to our CFO, Youssef, who will provide more details in our operational and financial performance for the period.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you, Mr. Abdulrahman. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's earnings call. We closed out 2024 with a record fourth quarter, delivering strong operational growth as we expanded our rig fleet, increased drilling activity, and further optimized efficiency across our operations. Our rig fleet reached 142 rigs, up 10% year-on-year, following the addition of 13 rigs during the year, including 11 land rigs and two jack-ups, while rig availability stood at 96% in the fourth quarter. Moreover, drilling activity accelerated with 214 wells drilled in Q4 compared to 161 in the same period last year, reflecting the impact of new rigs coming into operation. On the OFS side, we continued expanding our capabilities with 57 rigs operating under integrated drilling services contracts in Q4, compared to 48 rigs in Q4 2023 and 50 in Q3 2024.

Discrete services were offered across 48 rigs, bringing total OFS coverage to 105 rigs, or around 74% of the drilling fleet. We have also seen improvements regarding operational efficiency, with a 20% increase in IDS drilling efficiency compared to 2023 benchmarks. This progress reflects ongoing enhancements in drilling performance, automation, and utilization, supporting both cost control and faster well delivery. Looking ahead, OFS activity is set to ramp up further in 2025, supported by the continued deployment of IDS rigs and growth in unconventional. As we scale our operations, our focus remains on delivering high-performance drilling solutions, maximizing asset efficiency, and sustaining ADNOC Drilling's strong operational momentum into the next phase of growth. Moving on to our decarbonization initiatives. Next slide, please. We continue to make substantial progress in reducing emissions across our operations, with a strong focus on camp electrification, rig efficiency, and energy optimization initiatives.

All 16 new-built hybrid rigs are now fully operational, equipped with battery energy storage systems to optimize energy usage. In our camps, the Madinat Zaid camp has been powered by the grid, marking a key milestone in our decarbonization efforts. Additionally, we successfully installed solar mobile power on AD122, reinforcing our commitment to integrating renewable energy into our operations. We are also advancing rig energy optimization, continuously monitoring consumption to identify efficiency gaps and reduce diesel usage. Further electrification initiatives are under evaluation, along with a diesel optimization program, which includes testing fuel additives to improve combustion efficiency. Enersol remains a key enabler of ADNOC Drilling's decarbonization agenda. Through strategic acquisitions and technology integration, Enersol is strengthening our capabilities, allowing us to implement innovative solutions that enhance efficiency and reduce our environmental footprint.

With these initiatives in motion, we remain committed to reducing our carbon footprint while enhancing operational efficiencies, ensuring ADNOC Drilling remains at the forefront of responsible energy development. Moving on to financials on the next slide, please. Coming back to what the CEO said earlier, we're very pleased to report that ADNOC Drilling closed 2024 on a strong note, delivering another record quarter and full-year performance, with revenue, EBITDA, and net income all reaching new highs. Revenue in Q4 grew 16% to $1.19 billion, while full-year revenue surpassed $4 billion, a 32% year-on-year increase. I would like to highlight that approximately 50% of the sequential revenue growth in Q4 was supported by activity phasing, primarily within OFS and certain cost reimbursements in the onshore segment. Adjusting for these, our core revenue growth remains in line with expectations.

You will have to consider this positive phasing and the reimbursements in Q4 when you model the first quarter. I'll be more explicit on this when we come to guidance. EBITDA expanded to $596 million in Q4, bringing full-year EBITDA to $2.02 billion, with a 50% margin. Excluding the impact of activity phasing and cost reimbursements, sequential EBITDA growth was 7%, in line with the trends we had anticipated in our Q3 earnings call. Net income for Q4 reached $399 million, with full-year net profit standing at $1.3 billion, up 26% year-on-year. Excluding activity phasing impacts, sequential net profit growth stood at 4%. Bottom line, our sequential growth was around or higher than mid-single digit, even when excluding the non-recurring elements. Cash from operations for the full year stood at $1.65 billion, representing 82% of EBITDA, a healthy level.

One point to highlight, working capital as a percentage of revenue stood at around 8% at the end of the quarter. However, as you have probably seen, the four leased-to-own land rigs from the previous quarter have been reclassified to owned rigs. As such, the normalized ratio was 12%, adjusting for the impact from phasing of capex related payments for the unwinding of the lease liability to payments. Capital expenditures for 2024 totaled $761 million, including prepayments and accruals, reflecting disciplined deployment aligned with our rig acquisition program. We expect capex to be in a range between $350-$550 million for 2025, and this guidance only includes maintenance capex and the capex for island rigs. We anticipate making additional inorganic growth investments in our JV Enersol of up to $490 million in 2025, assuming the completion of transactions by Enersol totaling $1.5 billion since its inception.

Capex for 2025 will remain flexible to support our growth, potentially exceeding $1 billion with M&A, depending on investment opportunities and execution. Our balance sheet remains strong, with net debt at $1.99 billion, leading to a 1x net debt-to-EBITDA ratio. This provides ADNOC Drilling with ample flexibility to fund both growth and dividends, ensuring we maintain a balanced approach to capital allocation while continuing to deliver shareholder value. Now, let's look at revenue for the various segments. Next slide, please. Starting with the onshore segment, fourth quarter revenue grew 33% year-on-year to $554 million, supported by new rigs commencing operations and contributions from the unconventional business. Sequentially, onshore revenue rose 14%, with growth supported by higher rig activity, a $48 million positive impact from unconventional business, and certain cost reimbursements in the onshore segment.

For the full year, onshore revenue reached $1.89 billion, up 27% year-on-year, reflecting the impact of fleet expansion and increasing unconventional activity. Offshore Jack-up revenue grew 17% year-on-year in Q4 to $264 million, supported by higher activity from new rigs. Sequentially, revenue declined 9%, mainly due to major maintenance coinciding at the same time for a few rigs. For the full year, revenue increased 40% to $1.12 billion, reflecting strong demand across ADNOC's offshore development projects. Offshore island segment revenue increased 8% year-on-year to $56 million in Q4, reflecting the reactivation of an island rig for the Hail and Ghasha project. Sequentially, revenue was also up 8%, demonstrating stable performance in this segment. For the full year, revenue stood at $212 million, broadly in line with 2023 levels. OFS delivered outstanding growth, with the number of IDS rigs standing at 57, growing from 48 rigs at the end of 2023.

Fourth quarter revenue increased 111% year-on-year to $313 million, and up 59% sequentially, driven by higher IDS activity, positive phasing for approximately $50 million related to directional drilling and pressure pumping, and $73 million revenue from unconventional business in Q4 alone. For the full year, OFS revenue increased 47% year-on-year to $813 million, driven by increased volumes of activity from IDS, as well as the positive phasing relating to directional drilling and pressure pumping, and the unconventional business, which contributed $100 million in the second half of 2024. As you have probably seen, for the unconventional business, the revenue split between OFS and onshore was approximately 60%-40%, respectively. However, I would like to highlight that this was driven mainly by phasing of certain activities and for the phase one of the project, $1.7 billion contract.

We anticipated the cumulative contribution would be around 80% to OFS and 20% to onshore for land rig. With IDS ramp-up continuing and the unconventional development gaining traction, we expect OFS activity to remain strong in 2025, reinforcing our position as a key enabler of ADNOC's growth ambitions. Over to the next slide, please. Moving on to EBITDA. Onshore EBITDA grew 40% year-on-year to $285 million in Q4, reflecting higher revenue and stable operating expenses supported by realized cost optimization initiatives. Sequentially, EBITDA increased 18% in line with higher activity levels and continued efficiency gains. For the full year, EBITDA grew 28% to $927 million, with a margin of 49%. Offshore jack-up EBITDA rose 33% year-on-year to $197 million in Q4, supported by higher operational efficiency and cost optimization initiatives. Sequentially, EBITDA declined 1% due to major maintenance time.

For the full year, EBITDA increased 50% to $768 million, with a 69% EBITDA margin up from 64% in 2023. Offshore Island EBITDA declined 3% year-on-year to $32 million in Q4, reflecting reactivation costs for the island rigs assigned to Hail and Ghasha, while remaining flat sequentially. For the full year, EBITDA reached $128 million, with a 60% margin, maintaining steady profitability. OFS continued its exceptional growth, with Q4 EBITDA increasing 105% year-on-year and 110% sequentially to $82 million, driven by higher revenue and supported by contribution from joint ventures. For the full year, OFS EBITDA rose 67% to $192 million, with a 24% margin. Our ability to sustain a 50% EBITDA margin while delivering strong absolute growth across all our segments highlights ADNOC Drilling's structural profitability, disciplined cost management, and operational efficiency. Next slide, please.

Throughout 2024, as we continued expanding our operations and capturing growth opportunities, we had the visibility and confidence to upgrade our guidance twice. Our disciplined execution and operational strength have allowed us to deliver on all key metrics, creating sustainable value for our shareholders. We delivered record revenue, EBITDA, and net income, exceeding the higher end of the twice-upgraded guidance for all three metrics. This performance was driven by strong contributions across all segments, which benefited from new rigs, unconventional activity, and increased IDS and OFS penetration. Looking ahead, ADNOC Drilling remains well-positioned to sustain its growth trajectory, supported by continued operational efficiencies, rig feed expansion, and an increasing contribution from technology-driven OFS solutions. The board has proposed a final cash dividend of $394 million, $9.05 per share, subject to shareholder approval at the upcoming AGM in March.

This brings total dividends for the year to $788 million, approximately $18.1 per share, reflecting a 10% year-on-year increase. The final dividend is expected to be distributed in the first half of April 2025, and in line with our progressive dividend policy, dividends are projected to increase by at least 10% year-on-year, bringing the minimum amount for 2025 to $867 million. Moreover, let us stress an important point. The board, at its discretion, may approve additional distributions above the progressive policy, depending on free cash flow and creative growth opportunities. Moving on to guidance. As we look ahead, our 2025 guidance reflects continued high growth. Importantly, this guidance excludes further acceleration of unconventional development, which is expected to contribute in both 2025 and 2026, and any additional land rigs related to that.

For the full year 2025, we expect revenue between $4.6 and $4.8 billion, reflecting full contribution from rigs added throughout last year, as well as continued OFS and unconventional growth, and as you can understand, the phasing of unconventional between 2025 and 2026 will be an important driver of revenue evolution and distribution. The beginning is promising as we are drilling below 16 days, hence allowing us to continue progressing, and will update the market in due course as we get more visibility on the progress and once the volume of fracking activity will pick up at a later stage. Also starting from the first quarter of 2025, we will simplify our reporting structure by consolidating offshore jack-up and offshore island into a single offshore segment, aligning with the focus of our offshore client on optimizing the mix of offshore assets and maximizing operational efficiencies.

EBITDA is expected to range between $2.15 and $2.3 billion, maintaining a strong 46%-48% margin, while net income is projected to be between $1.35 and $1.45 billion, translating to a 28%-30% net margin. Looking ahead, I suggest for Q1 taking revenue close to the average of Q3 and Q4 2024, as Q1 has two less days than Q4 last year, a 2% delta in volume, and Q4 benefited from OFS phasing and onshore reimbursements. EBITDA net income margin broadly in line with the mid of the annual guidance, as OFS keeps growing disproportionately, driven by IDS and unconventional. For the next three quarters, taking a number close to midpoint of the annual guidance, minus Q1 and dividing it by three, assuming broadly even quarters. We anticipate 2025 CapEx between $350 and $550 million, in line with the natural cycle of our investments.

The lower end of the guidance reflects routine maintenance and the awarded new island rigs Capex, while the upper end incorporates incremental Capex for potential additional island rigs and OFS equipment and other targeted organic growth initiatives. Moreover, for the first time, we have introduced free cash flow guidance expected between $1.3 and $1.6 billion, excluding any cash outflows associated with M&A. This underpins our 2025 dividend floor of approximately $870 million, which represents a minimum 10% year-on-year increase, comfortably supported by projected free cash flow. Looking at our medium-term outlook, we anticipate revenue to reach approximately $5 billion in 2026, reflecting continued business growth and growing contribution from OFS. Our fleet is expected to increase to at least 148 rigs by 2026 and 151 plus rigs by 2028, ensuring ADNOC Drilling remains well-positioned to support ADNOC's long-term capacity expansion plans.

It's important to highlight that the 50% EBITDA margin in our medium-term guidance applies to conventional drilling operations, whereas the unconventional segment, despite optically reducing margins, remains accretive to overall returns. This is due to its lower capital intensity and a greater weighting towards OFS, which structurally operates at lower margins but higher returns than drilling. We remain committed to capital efficiency and financial discipline, maintaining a conservative leverage target of up to 2x net debt-to-EBITDA, ensuring flexibility for future growth. We expect to maintain a stable 12% working capital ratio in the medium term. Our 2025 and medium-term guidance reflect ADNOC Drilling's ability to drive sustained growth, optimize capital efficiency, and maintain strong financial flexibility, ensuring we remain on track to deliver long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you. I now hand over to Mr. Abdulrahman for closing remarks.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

To recap, ADNOC Drilling delivered another exceptional year, achieving strong financial results while continuing to execute on our strategic priorities. We continue to build on our growth momentum, with Enersol progressing well in its acquisition strategy and Turnwell establishing a strong foundation in unconventional resources. These developments, alongside our regional expansion ambitions, position ADNOC Drilling to capture new opportunities and drive future growth. At the same time, we remain committed to our ESG agenda, advancing sustainability initiatives that enhance operational efficiency and contribute to a lower carbon future. With a strong financial position, a growing asset base, and a disciplined approach to execution, we are well-positioned to pave the way for further growth and long-term value creation. Thank you for joining us today, and I will now hand over to the moderator to open the Q&A session. Thank you very much. Assalamualaikum.

Moderator

Thank you. We'll now begin the Q&A session.

To ask a question, please press star 4 by 1 on your telephone keypad now. If you change your mind, please press star 4 by 2. When preparing to ask a question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. The first question today comes from Giuseppe Vivallari from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Giuseppe Villari
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for the presentation and for taking our questions. We have two, if I may. The first one is about the three incremental rigs that you guided for by 2026. We were wondering if you could provide the breakdown between onshore and offshore. And then secondly, on CapEx, you indicated that for 2025, CapEx could reach over $1 billion, including M&A, and we were wondering how advanced are you on negotiations. Thank you.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you, Giuseppe. Okay, we'll take the two questions separately.

The first one with regard to the island rigs. The first, hopefully, these are the island rigs, three rigs, which are coming for the island project that we have. The first one, hopefully, I'm expecting the first to come in late 2025 to be available in Abu Dhabi and expecting to start operating somewhere probably late in the first quarter and the second quarter, and then we'll get the delivery of the other two island rigs during 2026 and between the second half of the year. We'll try our best to have also the second to start also in 2026, and the third, probably it will extend into 2027 early to start, or if we manage to get all that started, so they are island rigs. They will have the features of capabilities of AI, smart rigs for the activities that we are doing on the island.

On the other part, on the Capex,Youssef will take that part and.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Definitely. And I think closing up on the first point, because I think part of your question related to Mohamed answers, which is the three island rigs which we have previously announced in 2024 for the $733 million contract. And these are the ones arriving uniformly throughout or starting operations uniformly throughout the course of 2026. And effectively, the initial part of the revenues of these rigs is reflected in our $5 billion revenue target for 2026, with the first full year of operations being 2027 and hence having further upside from that. And then the other part of your question was related to how do we go from 148 rigs in 2026 to 151 rigs in 2028?

That is most likely going to be a function of three incremental, most likely island rigs to effectively be arriving between starting operations between 2027 and 2028, and hence creating partial upside in both of these years, plus full upside for the first full year of operation of these incremental three, probably island rigs in 2029. In terms of your question on CapEx, the breakdown this year is going to be you have first the $550 million top end of the existing organic guidance for this year, which is broken down into $250 million of maintenance CapEx, $200 million of CapEx on existing previously announced rigs, primarily the three island rigs which are arriving in 2026, where the majority of the CapEx will be incurred in 2025.

And then the remaining $100 million is to cater for incremental yet to be announced growth, which is a combination of additional IDS rigs. We ended Q4 with 57 IDS rigs. We expect this year to reach at least 62 IDS rigs and hence incremental OFS CapEx for at least these five rigs, plus starting to accrue CapEx on the additional rigs, including that transition from 148 to 151, which these rigs would only arrive in 2027 and 2028, but they will start to potentially be ordered this year and hence the start of partial accrual. And that is the bridge to the $550. And then the bridge from the $550 to the $1 billion, the majority of that is completing the rest of the Enersol deployment, so completing the $1.5 billion at the JV level, out of which the ADNOC Drilling share is $765 million.

So removing the amount we already deployed last year, we're looking at around $400 million of deployment this year. And all of these are identified deals which are in various stages of due diligence and offering. And we basically have a clear line of sight to signing all of these deals this year, and then potentially some of them closing this year, some closing next year, depending on the merger control, like what happened in 2024 when we signed half of the deals and then three of them end up closing during 2024 and one is closing this year. And then in terms of financial impact of these deals which are being closed, again, we see it one year later. So the same way, the 2024 signed deals are kind of contributing around $50 million of bottom line impact this year before any purchase price adjustments for the new deals.

Similarly, the incremental deals we will be doing this year would take the bottom line impact from Enersol to around $100 million next year, again, before any kind of purchase price adjustments. And then the final piece of how do we go, let's say, from this $950, which is the $550 organic plus the $400 in organic Enersol, how do we go to then slightly over a billion? The balance of that is the additional CapEx we expect to incur this year in Oman and Kuwait, which is, again, in very advanced stages of basically very clearly identified assets which are in final stages of diligence and offering to be able to land additional rigs in both countries. And that effectively, again, will start to create a little bit of financial impact on revenue and net income this year, but predominantly the impact will come in 2026.

And again, it will be part of effectively how we will grow next year from the $4.6-$4.8 billion revenue this year to the $5 billion revenue next year.

Giuseppe Villari
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Perfect. That's very clear. Thank you.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Yeah. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Abhishek Kumar from Bank of America. The line is now open.

Abhishek Kumar
VP, Bank of America

Congratulations on a great set of numbers and thanks for taking my questions. I have a question around unconventional. You talked about unconventional acceleration, although you also mentioned that you're not baking into this year's revenue guidance. What is the thought process behind that? And then again, in terms of operational parameters of the first phase progress in terms of well productivity, you touched upon the time taken to drill the wells, the reducing along with cost.

Then again, a question basically on the current quarter, most of the revenue has come on drilling side, not on the completion side. So what is the thought process? I mean, is it client-led that wells are not getting completed there? You're just drilling the wells on unconventional side, or is it logistics or something that's going to catch up as we move forward in 2025?

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you, Abhishek. I think we'll address it in two parts. Now, in terms of the program, the program started and then Turnwell picks up the activities. Today, as we talk, we have eight rigs active in the unconventional program in Abu Dhabi. Now, definitely, we have major improvements, learnings captured and reflected into the well programs that we are delivering. Improvements, basically, you're talking about probably up to 60% we have seen.

It's something now the team is working to sustain that kind of performance in the drilling part. With regard to the completion, there is a requirement to have enough backlog of wells so we can really also go similarly in the completion side where the frac activities will happen. Now, we have started the well-by-well kind of thing. Today, what we are addressing is there is some stand-alone wells that have started the frac activity. Also there, we see the improvements happening. Instead of, well, we used to do three stage or four stage in a day, today we are doing rigs targeting to achieve 10 stages in a day. The momentum is picking up there. Definitely, I mean, once we will have enough backlog of the wells, there is a shift to happen there similarly like what we see on the drilling part.

Now, if you take the second part.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Definitely. So I think effectively, to kind of recap quickly and break down your point. So on the drilling side, as Mohammad said, we are effectively performing extremely well. We are drilling wells in 15 days, which is a record number of days. All the eight rigs are fully operational. That's why you see a significant step up in the Q4 revenues being well above $100 million, as well as all the associated oilfield services coming effectively with drilling these wells. And obviously, as a result of the well time coming down, the well cost is coming down significantly, which obviously is a double benefit, a benefit that it provides to our clients. A very clear roadmap towards getting the final investment decision on phase two from a drilling perspective.

And at the same time, it allows, because of the Lump Sum Turnkey nature of the model, it allows us to have a higher margin than originally anticipated, at least for now on the drilling side, where kind of we were talking about a 10% net income margin. And as we continue delivering at this effectively 15 days, the margins from this will be higher than originally anticipated. So that we have effectively full confidence in. Now, second part of your question of, okay, why is the acceleration not yet fully reflected into the plan? Because just purely with the kind of way the logistics of the program works, you start with drilling a certain portfolio of wells, which becomes then available for fracking, so the frac needs to be able to come in and frack these wells.

And as you said, some of the logistics that need to be provided around fracking, including the water, the sand, the other kind of requirements from the client side. And hence, effectively, as the drilling performs extremely well in Q4, Q2 2025 now is all about setting up these kind of fracking milestones. And as effectively we see the fracking coming as the same efficiency and performance of the drilling, then at that point, we would effectively feel very confident, effectively reflecting this in our numbers and baking in this upside. So basically, despite the kind of the acceleration from the ADNOC side and the intention to do that, again, we want all our guidance to be based on contracted elements. And hence, drilling is very clear. It's contracted, it's accelerated, the eight rigs that it takes.

The fracking, we want to see the same level of kind of contractual visibility and physical achievements on the ground, which is a function of time, to be able to kind of accelerate in the same way.

Abhishek Kumar
VP, Bank of America

Yeah. Thank you very much. That's very clear. One more question, if I may, is on the IDS side of things. So you move from 50 to 57, that's very impressive. And you also mentioned that you're looking at moving into 62 in 2025. Given approximately both owned as well as rented, like 150-odd rigs working in the country, how far we can go in terms of providing IDS services and IDS plus discrete services in total? So we already have like 70-75% market share. So how far we can go there?

And again, I mean, as a reminder, can you tell us what is the potential revenue opportunity from IDS per well, both on the onshore side as well as offshore side?

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you, Abhishek. I think, again, on the IDS, I think if you have seen the story, we started with 10% with progress so far. 10% was during 2019. And the whole thing and how much efficient we are being and how much optimization we are introducing. So that is happening. That's why today we are at 57 rig count. And the clients, they see the advantage of going to 62 additional, which is additional rigs. So the potential to go for more, there is. I mean, again, the client has to see the value, which repeatedly they are seeing it and they are increasing the allocation. Now, have in mind, we are not only the 57 rigs today.

We are 105 rigs, but the other 48 rigs are more of discrete services where we are providing one or two services on single discrete rigs kind of thing apart from the IDS. So we are progressing. I'm expecting that we will be able to progress more. Probably we can reach up to beyond 50% also of the rigs that we have. When we are saying 150, we can go up to 70 plus rigs also. But again, it's our efforts that is continuously performing, showing the client the benefits and the allocation which comes. So there is potential to go more also.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

and no, it's just on the same thing, Mohammad, on the OFS basically. It's the count that also is getting additional services on each rig, right? It's not only about the count going up.

Today, with these IDS rigs, effectively, there's still additional service potential as we basically transition into a more comprehensive. Today, we have the unconventional. We do a lump sum turnkey, which is even more comprehensive than the integrated drilling service. So even though it's already IDS, even within these 57 rigs, there's potential to potentially do more services. We already have the 49 IDS, the 49 discrete rigs, which some of these over time can effectively be also moved into IDS. And then, as you have seen in Q4, the overall service intensity is kind of going up with the client. So I think while there's definitely potential to go for even more rigs, even within the existing rigs, that's quite vibrant.

And the point around the market side, we're already expecting OFS at the middle of the guidance this year to grow by 50% from $800 million to $1.2 billion of revenue. The majority of this is coming from the unconventional, but there's also a conventional component to that growth. So there is still a continued ability. The OFS has grown more than 100% last year. We're now talking about 50% this year. So even obviously, as this percentage naturally comes down over time, it's still a very substantial percentage of our project.

Abhishek Kumar
VP, Bank of America

Yeah. Thank you very much. And if you can tell us what is the potential revenue that you can get from one well onshore and offshore if you're providing all the services, what is the potential revenue opportunity?

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

I think at a very high level, you can take the 2024 numbers, right?

We have around $800 million coming from OFS. If you remove the part of that which relates to unconventional, which is around $100 million, you're left with around $700 million. The majority of this revenue does come from the IDS fleet. It's around 57 IDS rigs. So if you want kind of very back of the envelope math, you can look at it as around kind of just under $10 million kind of revenue per rig per year on the services as a very kind of high-level estimate, obviously kind of plus minus depending on the actual activity mix, how much is the directional drilling, pressure pumping, etc. But if you want to use $10 million revenue per rig per year for the IDS rigs as a very high-level kind of directional estimate.

Abhishek Kumar
VP, Bank of America

Okay. Thank you. And there's not much of a difference between offshore and onshore?

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Yes. There is no major, I mean, except the fracking on the onshore. That's where the difference is. So if there's unconventional wells and hyd fracking, then that is where the onshore activity becomes significantly more sizable. But if there are conventional onshore or offshore wells, there will be no substantial difference. No.

Abhishek Kumar
VP, Bank of America

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Wali Juma from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Hello.

Thank you for taking my questions. I have two. On the dividend, should the company lever up to its net debt to even that target of two times, it should have around $4.5 billion worth of borrowing capacity. Furthermore, the company generates a ballpark of around $1.4 billion of free cash flow per guidance. How should you think about that dividend in that context?

Are there any restrictions for the company to pay a higher dividend beyond the 10% annual year-on-year growth? Second, how many rigs could the international expansion require? And could you provide a preliminary CapEx guidance for that as well as an expected operation start date? Thank you.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

I think starting with the dividend question, in terms of your question of are there any restrictions? No, there are no restrictions at all. So financially, our implied kind of payout ratio from a dividend from net income is around 60%. As a percentage of free cash flow, it's before M&A is around 50%. Net debt to EBITDA is only one time. From a policy perspective, the board has full discretion that's been granted to them by the shareholder assembly and the annual general meeting to go above 10% in any form that they would want to go.

So there's absolutely nothing restricting the company from doing that. So this is purely a balancing decision from the board on the optimal timing to balance growth and dividend. The company continues to grow extremely rapidly. Q4 was effectively a 40% year-on-year growth. As we look forward, we're looking at the unconventional at Enersol, the existing size, plus potentially even additional deals above the existing size. We're going to be announcing during the course of this year awards of new rigs on the conventional side as well. And that's why we've upgraded the number to 151 rigs. The regional expansion, we are live tendering as we speak for both contracts and assets outside Abu Dhabi. And hence, it's purely kind of timing the kind of the different moves that the company makes on the dividend and the growth and basically finding the optimal time to do that.

I think we've had kind of we went through the same journey last year where we went through kind of multiple iterations and thought process around the dividend. And then in the Q1 2024 results, that's where we kind of came up with the upgraded dividend going from 5% to 10%. That continues to be kind of a discussion topic. And we continue to kind of be ultra-focused on kind of capital return and kind of shareholder value. And that will continue to be kind of a discussion point with kind of every board. And we'll ultimately make sure to always balance growth and dividend to kind of create the maximum value.

In terms of regional expansion, so in terms of kind of initially guiding to a certain CapEx figure, I think kind of very directionally, you can look at this as potentially up to $300 million of incremental CapEx potentially between this year and next year on kind of regional rigs, as I just kind of that directional maximum estimate. And if you kind of take this as being kind of all onshore rigs and kind of onshore rigs averaging, especially if it's not kind of first-hand rigs, it's existing rigs, then these onshore rigs average around $15 million per rig. So again, as a very directional number, you can take kind of a 20-rig kind of as a very kind of directional medium-term target to potentially kind of look at with over kind of a couple of years.

If you look at it from a market share perspective, Oman and Kuwait, which are our two key markets, between them, they have around 300 rigs that the markets are kind of growing into kind of again over the next couple of years. So as you think about kind of a single-digit kind of market share in these markets, which is what we do expect to be kind of to be a reasonable market share, to be looking at potentially kind of a high single-digit kind of market share on this. Again, that will take you to kind of around that same figure, which again, the way we look at this is basically that kind of the fundamental premise of the business would remain the Abu Dhabi, the long-term contracts, the IRR-based stability Abu Dhabi office.

But the ability to go outside does provide an incremental growth lever that allows us to maintain this very high elevated growth, plus effectively gives us more overall portfolio flexibility in terms of being able to deploy these rigs across kind of different environments. And hence, kind of allows us overall more commercial flexibility and optimization.

Very clear. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Guillaume Delaby from Bernstein, Société Générale. Your line is now open.

Guillaume Delaby
Analyst, Bernstein Société Générale

Yes. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe a quite high-level question, and it's going to be for Mr. Abdulrahman. So I'm quite impressed by your strategy with Enersol, where basically, I have the impression that you start to consolidate the OFS industries by picking up some complementary technologies. But my question is more widespread.

If you compare the OFS situation, the OFS market structure as of today in the region versus what it used to be three or four years ago at the time of the IPO, according to you, what has changed? What has surprised you? What are possibly some trends which you would not have expected three or four years ago? Thank you very much.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

It's a difficult one and a very open one.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, never find something difficult. Definitely. I mean, if I look at before the IPO, the OFS, I mean, we had a number of services not available. So some of the things which we really progressed very well is the fracking, pressure pumping. Some of them in the past, we were hiding it from third parties.

Today, we have our own setups for that, which is giving us the better opportunity in the unconventional to be a good player rather than relying on third parties. So that's really some of the things which is happening. Now, definitely, if we want to compare the market of Abu Dhabi to anywhere else, probably we are doing very good being here and running 57 rigs on the IDS, all the services. Anybody else is not having that kind of scope into his umbrella. Today, we have that. Today, also, we are intensively working with region in the pre-qualification, where we are today in the final stage, I would say, for the pre-qualification. Certain services were qualified. Certainly, the process, and as we talk, we have a team today in GCC meeting clients to complete some of the services qualification and eventually to get tenders that we can bid for.

Now, our bigger picture, our bigger picture for ADNOC Drilling is a total solution provider. This is what distinguishes ADNOC Drilling compared to anybody else in the region. Now we provide the total solution. Something we started working on long before to be into this situation today. That's why, again, when we come to the unconventional, we picked up the same kind of concept, created Turnwell with the total solution possibility or capability. This is where we're demonstrating that we are moving in the right direction. Even today, I have feedback from within the region who have been extensively working on unconventional and looking at what we have done, creating a focused body to deliver the unconventional. It's a good solution that will pick up a lot of learning fast. Definitely, OFS as a start, Turnwell.

So we really see in that we have a bigger objective in that to provide total solution kind of approach, which will distinguish ADNOC Drilling compared to anybody else in the market. I hope that answers, I mean, but if there is anything more, please repeat the part I did not so I can elaborate more into that.

Guillaume Delaby
Analyst, Bernstein Société Générale

No. But thank you very much. But clearly, this is the theme on which I think it's because historically, the OFS landscape in the region was dominated by the big three U.S. guys. And I find it interesting to see that there might be the beginning of a shakeup. So interesting. Thank you very much. I turn it over.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Just one second, please. Of course. I think the whole idea when we have, I mean, strategically introduced the OFS capabilities.

I mean, it's not just when we started 2019. Actually, back in 2005 also, we started some. But we've done a major shift in 2019 when we had a partnership with Baker in creating a solid kind of company which will be able to do oilfield services, who I think would be very successful. And yes, in history, I mean, it was the four players. We are the fifth player today. But if you look at some of the reports, it shows probably we are ranked number one or two kind of thing in the region. So yes, it is a shift, but it's ambition and plans, strategies that we worked for a long time to be here today on this kind of stage. And hopefully, I mean, future also talking about the Turnwell frack and all those.

We need those capabilities to be locally available for us that we can highly depend on ourselves also when it's needed. When we created Turnwell, we did not shy out to bring partners. And the partner is with us, and we are working together. And hopefully, we'll go to the second level in due time, and hopefully, we'll be a successful story also.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Akash Tomar from SICO. Your line is now open.

Akash Tomar
Analyst, SICO

Thank you so much for the opportunity to ask the question. Congratulations on your great set of results. I have a question on your margins. So the first part of the question is for the offshore segment, despite the turnaround and lower revenues, the margin crossed 70%, and it's close to 75%. So what was the reason for that? And do you see that being sustainable?

The second question on margins is on your guidance. In 2024, you were able to achieve 50% margins, and the guidance is 46%-48%. Is that because of the oilfield services? Because it is a lower margin segment, and it is increasing in revenue? Is it just that? Or is there something else also you see some margin compression in any other segments? These two questions. Thank you.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Starting with the second one, no margin compression at all in any like-for-like business. Actually, if you see every individual segment is improving its margins, including the OFS itself, which has hit kind of highest margins in Q4, reaching kind of 24% plus level. That will continue to be the trend. If anything, on a segment basis, this will continue to improve as we get more economies of scale.

As you said, the impact is purely a function of the OFS being the fastest growth in 2024. In 2025 as well, you will see from the guidance, the OFS is increasing 50%, mid-guidance going from $800 million-$1.2 billion. And that just very rapid growth, especially driven by the unconventional, is kind of weighing down on the overall weighted average blended margin. But each segment is going up. In terms of the offshore, this is again a function of continued cost optimization that we continue to do regardless of the kind of revenue level.

I think in terms of what's sustainable, I think for us, the best way to look at it, especially going forward, that we see more of the additional rigs being ordered by the clients on the island side, is to look at the offshore as a combined segment, like we have done in the guidance for 2025. So if you look at kind of middle of the range of the guidance for next year, you're looking at around $1.4 billion combined revenue for the offshore as a whole. And if you kind of apply a similar kind of blended margin on that compared to what we've seen in 2024, you end up with kind of around $950 million of EBITDA in 2025, so kind of in the high 60%. And that is what we see as a sustainable blended margin for the offshore as a whole.

And we think that's probably the best way to look at it going forward.

Akash Tomar
Analyst, SICO

Okay. Thank you. That's really helpful. All the best for your next quarter.

Moderator

Next question is from Oliver Connor from Citi. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Oliver Connor
Analyst, Citi

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. And congratulations on results. Two from me. So first one, just coming back to the unconventionals, you've got eight rigs now operating there. I believe you've talked about being at six previously and potentially moving to nine and acquiring rigs as needed for phase one. So just trying to get a sense of your view on the need to buy any rigs or acquire any rigs to deliver on phase one and any implications for rig needs into possible phase two.

And then the second question is coming back to the three incremental rigs, island rigs that you talked about for 2028. Is that targeting sort of gas developments or conventional oil? Just curious in terms of the upside on what the drilling needs are there for those three rigs. Thank you.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you, Anne. And on the first part on the unconventional, now, yes, we were planning potential to get additional rigs for the unconventional. But as we have updated, I mean, the efficiencies that we have seen in the initial phase, I mean, initial work that we have started, dropping from 40 days towards the 16 days, we see, I mean, we're modifying our plans. We see eight rigs will be sufficient to bring the $144 for de-risking within two plus years. And that's something everybody quite confident with and happy to maintain.

But definitely, if there is a need for additional, I mean, we have basically now probably 95 rigs in operation on the land activity. So if it's one or two rigs, maybe we can shift between activities that we have, especially talking about efficiencies that can be made from the rest of the fleet. Now, on the island rigs, the main drive is the oil part of it because, again, the same islands which we are talking about for the three island rigs that we have ordered already, the three potential is also for the same project. The gas part is another project which is already they have the rigs defined, allocated, and it's just a matter of the third and fourth rig to start operation within 2025, inshallah.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

And just very quickly on the first point, unlike the conventional where additional rigs would mean additional revenue and the other way around, for the unconventional, we already have a lump sum contract for the whole amount. And hence, even if we don't have additional unconventional land rigs above the eight, that has no impact on our revenue EBITDA, which we would still be able to generate because we're still doing the well. And we'll actually improve the returns further because it would reduce the capex associated with these incremental rigs while we still have the revenue and the EBITDA.

And then despite that as well, we have kept our 148 rig count and increased it to 151 because we are confident that even if we don't have the requirements for these additional land rigs on the unconventional side, between the other land rig activities we have inside and outside the UAE, now with the rig in Jordan and the Oman and Kuwait expansion, we would still need at least three incremental land rigs. But back to the point we discussed earlier on the call, we see the opportunity for land rigs outside the UAE even much bigger than three. And that's why we've reiterated the guidance of the 148 going to 151. We would still achieve the revenue and the EBITDA without even these incremental rigs.

And then as these incremental rigs come in, now we generate additional revenue on top of what's in this contract and hence create another further upside on the package.

Oliver Connor
Analyst, Citi

Very clear. Thank you. Thanks for that.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Ruben Devilliers from Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Hi, Abdulrahman. Youssef, thank you very much for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask the first one on Turnwell and phase one of the unconventional. Do you have a timing on when you expect to deliver the 144 wells? I think you used the guide to actually mid-2026, late 2025. And if there's any timing update for the unconventional phase two, that's my first question.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Okay. For the plan, I mean, we've been communicating it before even at the start. I mean, it will be two plus kind of thing.

We're relying a lot on why I say two, not two plus immediately because there is potential that we will be doing efficiency activities and we'll bring forward towards two. We started mid-2024. At least expect to go towards mid-2026, hopefully probably towards end-2026 if no efficiency gains. But with the way things are going, we see confidently that there will be efficiencies and hopefully will be two plus max to do the de-risking of the 144 wells. I hope that answers.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Again, we'll be very clear because we come back a bit to this point to be very clear. If you look at it purely on the drilling side, if you take the 15 days, we're at 15 days.

Even if you take it, don't take it as an average and take a higher average number with eight rigs, you'd be able to see it, you'd be able to, if it's purely drilling, we'll be able to drill these wells very, very quickly, right, and as you said, purely mathematically, between the end of 2025 and mid of 2026, we can get these wells drilled with the eight rigs we have with the current wells. Now, the question becomes, as we effectively advance on the fracking and we establish the completion and the fracking schedule, then that also would establish the optimal connectivity between the drilling and the fracking to make sure that these two are going hand in hand with the optimal scheduling from the client side.

That's why we remain, despite our full confidence and delivery on the drilling side, we remain a bit open on the timing and the operation point just to see the completion part, which also has a lot of infrastructure from the client side, and the final schedule for that before we make it further into the numbers.

Okay. Thank you very much. That's super clear. And then my last question was actually on your free cash flow guidance. So it's a clarification point. If I look at the midpoint for EBITDA, which is around $2.2 billion, and the CapEx is probably, let's say, about $450 million, this kind of gets me to a free cash flow before working capital and tax of about $1.8 billion, which is around the $400 million delta to what you have guided.

So I was wondering, is that $400 million purely explained by working capital and tax?

So I think a few, yes. I mean, a couple of things. I think if you look at first, kind of, let's say, the 1.6 that we had in terms of the top end of the free cash flow guidance before M&A, I think, yes, the bridge to that basically is starting from the 2.2, which is kind of the middle of the EBITDA guidance. If you want to be moving from that, let's say if you take the mid-end of the CapEx and you basically take 450 out of that, you'll be at around 1.75. And then out of that 1.75, you remove the tax, you have 1.6, right? If you start from middle of the EBITDA and middle of the CapEx, 2.2 minus 450, 1.75 minus 150 tax, you have 1.6.

So within that range, then where do we end between 1.3-1.6? That is really where working capital drives kind of where we are in that range.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Marcus Eave from CI Capital. Your line is now open.

Hello. Thank you for the call and congrats on this very strong setup with us. I have a few questions, if I may, specifically with regards to 2026 revenue guidance of $5 billion. This shows a slowdown in terms of revenue growth compared to 2025. So is there a specific reason behind this? And also, how does that compare with the UAE's gas ramp-up efficiency plan by 2030? My second question is on the unconventional phase two. Are there any updates regarding this and whether this could overlap with phase one? Thank you.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Go ahead. I'm in the first.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

For sure. So I think if you take the first part, we always guide only based on contracted kind of revenue. So what we have done is if you take basically the, let's say, the $4.6 billion, which is the bottom end of 2024, and you take the $5 billion of 2026, these two effectively collectively have $1.6 billion revenue collectively between the two years compared to the $4 billion of 2024 remaining flat through each of these years. Now, the $4 billion of 2024 already had around $150 million of unconventional. So if the $4 billion was remaining flat for the next two years, this would have meant that we would have consumed $450 million out of the unconventional project because it's $150 million every year.

Now, we're saying no, we're going to have $1.7 billion effectively of contract, which means that effectively you have another $1.2 billion or $1.25 billion of unconventional revenue on top of what's already baked into the $4 billion. So that's $1.25 billion we take that in, and then we also take the additional contracted from the additional island rigs which arrived in 2026, and we take the IDS that we have very high visibility over, which is going from 57- 62. We kind of add this, and this is how we come up with, let's say, that $4.6 billion bottom end going to $5 billion the next year. Is there upside to that? For sure, and that's kind of why we kind of say it's only based on contracted guidance because we still have the potential regional operation outside. We still have potential additional awards, etc.

So kind of the decelerating trend, if you want, is purely a function of how we think about the contracted pieces. And if you kind of go back and see how we've kind of constantly done it, it's almost always rolling exercise where it's almost always slowing down because of just kind of declining visibility on new awards. The existing business, we have 100% visibility because of the 15-year contract, but obviously lower visibility on what will happen next. And hence, again, next year we'll be firming up, upgrading again, and then kind of we go on and so on and so forth. On the phase one, phase two.

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Now, with regard to the phase one, phase two, I think today still we are on phase one and we are doing work. Now, is there going to be an overlap? I think it's too early to say.

And really, there is the completion part has to start. Then probably that will give the appetite to do the FIDs. I mean, so I wouldn't say we'll bake that into our plans today because maybe we need to see the completion part. Definitely, the drilling part is being able to demonstrate and then the efficiencies. And I'm expecting there will be efficiencies also in the completion part. It's just a matter of time so we can confidently come forward and update based on our client's feedback on what's the plans for the phase two. Have in mind that all the project is today 144 to de-risk the unconventional and extract those resources. So very clear plans they have. And inshallah, I think we will be working closely and updating as more information will be available for us also.

All right. Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. Our final question today comes from Ildar Khaziev from HSBC. Your line is now open.

Ildar Khaziev
Analyst, HSBC

Yes. Hi. Thank you very much. Just coming back to this unconventional contract, I'm sorry if this question was already answered, but you mentioned that there are bottlenecks related to completion from the client side. Do you think these bottlenecks can be removed during 2025? Or the base case scenario now is that the contract will be executed over 2025, 2026 as planned earlier, not in this year? And separately, how many fracking fleets do you have currently, and how many would you like to have to execute this contract? Thank you.

Youssef Salem
CFO, ADNOC Drilling

Sorry, how many fracks? Can you repeat the last part, please?

Ildar Khaziev
Analyst, HSBC

Yes.

How many fracking fleets do you have at the moment, and how many do you think you will need if you will need more in the future to execute the pilot project?

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you for the question. I think the last part and how many frack fleets we have, we have basically two between the partners of Turnwell. There are two frack fleets available. And now, if there is a need for the third, definitely will be arranged. But today, as we talk, we have two of them. Now, 2025, I think we will be having a number of wells for the completion and frack. It will be good data to feed them. Especially the thing which takes longer is the production testing, long-term testing, so they can make the best judgment on the plans for number of wells and all those different things.

I mean, so there is that part which is still not done, but initial information is good. But definitely, they need to build that confidence into doing long-term testing, so I'm expecting within, I mean, we have at least today one part complete. So there is high potential, and I will be getting more information as we go forward, and probably somewhere in late 2025, there will be more information available in terms of a complete solution, whether it's wells and completion and the efficiencies that can be taken. Now, on the logistics also, there is a lot of progress happening. Change of different practices is happening, especially with the partnership that we have, so there is progress in the area of logistics, water, sand. I mean, there has been major shift.

I mean, only two years back, we were talking about proppant and ceramics and all the coated kind of proppant. Today, we're talking about sand. And those are game changers. Water. And historically we're talking about fresh water. Now, we're talking about produced water. So definitely, 2025 will give us a lot of information if we can roll that into the production testing feedbacks that will be received. We'll be looking at it then, I would say.

Ildar Khaziev
Analyst, HSBC

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. This is the end of the Q&A session. I'll now hand back to Mr. Abdulrahman for closing remarks

Abdulrahman Al Seiari
CEO, ADNOC Drilling

Thank you very much. And I think it's been one of the busiest calls. Everyone had at least a good question. I mean, not only one question, a few questions. And thank you for that.

Definitely, I mean, we look forward to the next call and next meetings that we are going to have with our teams and myself. And r eally appreciate all the questions that we have received today also. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Moderator

Thank you. This concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.

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