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Earnings Call: H1 2026

Dec 10, 2025

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Morning to anyone I haven't said good morning to already. Let's make a start. Well, thank you very much for joining us this morning. For anyone who doesn't know, I'm Andy Thomis. I'm the Chief Executive at Cohort plc, and I'm here with Simon Walther, Cohort's Finance Director, to take you through our results for the six-month period ended 31st of October this year. By way of background, Cohort is a group of seven businesses providing technology-based defense products and services to the U.K. and to its allies around the world. Our business model aims to maximize the autonomy and independence of our businesses, consistent with good financial and regulatory governance. And that means that decisions are taken quickly and close to the customer. It maximizes agility and innovation while supporting our businesses with the strong balance sheet and the market reach that we have as a group.

So today I'm going to start by giving you the highlights from the first six months of the year. Simon will then provide more detail, including a divisional breakdown. And then finally, I'll share my thoughts on the demand picture and on our future prospects. And of course, there'll be an opportunity for questions at the end. In essence, it's been a robust first half. Revenue is up. We have a strong order book and prospects that provide the basis to accelerate the full-year performance and beyond. And our full-year expectations remain unchanged. So let's take a look at the numbers. So revenues continue to increase to a record GBP 128.8 million for the first half, and our profit is in line with expectations. So following a record performance in the prior period, we experienced a small decline in adjusted operating profit, which now sits at GBP 9.7 million.

It was another good period for new orders, which are, of course, the best leading indicator of future growth. The order intake of GBP 122.3 million in the first half has kept our order book close to April's record level at GBP 604.5 million. As at early December, that covered some 96% of external revenue forecasts for the year and will be generating revenue for us well into the 2030s. Adjusted earnings per share for the six months ended 31st of October decreased GBP 16.16 . The effective tax rate was 15.5%. The operating cash outflow of GBP 27.9 million was, as expected, reflecting a build in working capital ahead of second- half deliveries, as well as payments in respect of dividends, capital expenditure, and that resulted in a net debt position as at 31st of October of GBP 32.5 million. The capital expenditure included GBP 7 million on ELAC's new facility, which was completed on time.

We expect our net funds at the year-end to be in line with previous expectations. We've declared an interim dividend of GBP 0.058, once again representing an increase of 10% on last year's. That reflects the board's confidence in the group's prospects. Simon will now talk you through our financial review of the first half of the year. Simon, thanks very much.

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

Thank you, Andy, and good morning to you all. As Andy's already said, and I will reiterate, another growth in revenue for the group with contribution from our latest acquisition, EM Solutions, offsetting an expected drop in the revenue at MCL. The drop at MCL, along with a mix in Sensors and Effectors, accounts for the marginally lower trading performance of the group, again in line with expectation. As we indicated at the year-end, we expected the revenue from UK MOD to fall back from its high level and as a share of the group's overall revenue to fall below 50%. The growth in our overseas, domestic, and export markets will see the UK MOD activity probably remain below 50% going forward for the foreseeable future.

Our expectations for the second half are a much stronger performance, with 96% of our revenue now on order or delivered and producing a full-year net margin of around 12%. Starting with Sensors and Effectors, the change in mix in this division, despite high revenue, was the cause of the group's overall lower first half trading performance when compared with last year. We saw good order intake at Chess and a return to profitability. We expect this improvement to continue, and under new management, we are looking for Chess to drive more sustainable growth, especially on the back of demand for counter-drone systems and to achieve net mid-teen net margins by 2027-2028. At ELAC, the first half saw the relocation of production to the newly completed purpose-built facility in Kiel.

Increased contribution from the Italian contract, which is still being prudently traded ahead of second half deliveries, has suppressed ELAC's trading margin in the first half. We are on course to deliver the first boat sale on this programme in the first half of 2026 calendar year when we will review the project's contingency levels. SEA, following the sale of its transport business at the end of June, delivered less revenue. Overall net margin for SEA reduced against prior year as lower margin work formed a greater proportion of mix in the first half, especially for delivery to an overseas customer, a project which we will complete in the early part of 2026-2027. The order cover for this division is 98%, and we expect a much stronger second half, delivering a net margin of around 10% for the full year.

The order book of more than two times annual revenue gives confidence for future growth. Turning then to Communications and Intelligence Division, it's also reported increased revenue at GBP 62.5 million, up 13%. The maiden first-half contribution from EM Solutions, in line with our expectations, offset the fall in MCL's revenue from the exceptional level it achieved last year. Underlying improvements at both EID and MASS further drove the higher revenue for the division. The adjusted operating profit of GBP 10.4 million for the six months to 31st October 2025 was 23% higher, delivering an adjusted operating profit margin of 16.8%. A major factor in the improved net margin was the contribution of EM Solutions. EID's loss for the first half was less than last year's equivalent. The order book at EID continues to strengthen, and we expect significant orders in the second half from the Portuguese Navy.

EID will return to profitability for the year, and our net margin target of mid-teens is likely to be achieved in the next three years. MASS saw good performance from its high margin EWOS operations, Electronic Warfare Operational Support, and we expect MASS to perform strongly in the second half. This division's order book increased to GBP 203.6 million, and its revenue cover is now 87%. This is typically lower than Sensors and Effectors with the short-term nature of some of the work at MASS and most notably MCL. EID infill is linked to the domestic orders which are in progress. The net margin for this division is expected to be over 17% for the full year. This slide shows the factors behind the net funds movement in the period. The first half performance has been driven by two primary outflows.

Firstly, the expected CapEx spend on ELAC's new facility, which completed on time in September, and we will see the final outflows in the second half. Secondly, a return to historic trading patterns as the first half saw significant working capital outflows building for a marked increase in second half deliveries. As usual, the nature of our receipts and payments, a total of probably around GBP 600 million for the year, some of which can be many millions of GBP in size, makes it hard to predict in the short term, but the group remains highly cash generative. Our expectations for the second half are a much stronger performance. As I've already said, with 96% of our revenue now on order or delivered, producing a full-year margin of around 12%. Our expectations of closing net funds remain unchanged at GBP 10 million-GBP 15 million for the year-end.

With that, I'll hand back to Andy.

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Thank you, Simon, so looking towards the mid and longer term, we see a number of opportunities for the group, and I'd like to show you some of the key factors that are driving those opportunities, so we continue to see a strong demand picture in response to the deteriorating security environments and ongoing conflicts that we see across the world. None of us should welcome that, and the risks that we now see are real and a matter of concern. In regions where threats are more immediate, governments are under pressure to upgrade and modernize their defense capabilities at speed, and that is where mid-tier businesses like those within the Cohort group have got the agility and the expertise to provide innovative solutions to those defense challenges.

The main catalysts of demand for defense equipment continue to be the conflict in Ukraine, coupled with the rising tensions between China and its neighbors. Research from SIPRI shows the biggest defense spenders include China, at a remarkable $313.7 billion last year, and Russia with $149 billion. And those persistent geopolitical forces are driving long-term demand for defense capability upgrades. A further catalyst is the arrival of new technology, allowing artificial intelligence-enabled and autonomous systems to be integrated into defense forces. And a good example of that is the U.K.'s recently announced Atlantic Bastion program. These drivers are pushing increased defense spending in Europe, in North America, and parts of Asia-Pacific. As we've seen, the NATO countries have agreed to raise their defense-related spending to 5% of gross domestic product by 2035. And many European countries, particularly those in the north and east, are already increasing their defense spending significantly.

The U.K. remains committed to increasing its defense expenditure to 3.5% of GDP by 2035, with a further 1.5% of GDP on security-related investment, and the imminently expected and awaited Defence Investment Plan in the U.K. is expected to outline where investment will be prioritized. Now, the need to increase defense spending to meet growing threats has been recognized well beyond the immediate vicinity of Russia and China. Modern conflicts demand systems that can adapt quickly and operate autonomously, and the Cohort group is well placed to meet that need and has responded with investment in R&D and future technologies. We continue to see the increased focus on protecting underwater infrastructure, providing opportunities for ELAC and SEA. The need to protect our forces from both cyber and kinetic threats, including missiles and drones, generating opportunities for MASS, for Chess, and SEA.

The growth in manned and unmanned submarine and surface ship programs worldwide providing opportunities for SEA, for ELAC, for EM Solutions, and for EID, the need for secure digital communications for multinational forces, driving demand for systems like EID's TDCIS and MASS's JEFNET, and the need for electronic warfare, drones, counter-drone, and communications for the U.K. and its allies at short notice, driving demand for MCL's products, and so the practical result of these geopolitical developments is a sustained higher level of demand for our equipment and services. To share some examples of that demand, EID is focused on providing communication and network systems for new Portuguese Navy vessels, as well as multiple communication systems opportunities for NATO and Asia-Pacific customers. EM Solutions is also pursuing opportunities with the Portuguese Navy, alongside fleet installation opportunities for New Zealand and Australia.

Their work on the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force trials is ongoing, and EM Solutions is also working with the Royal Navy here on SATCOM renewals. And as the focus on cyber security increases, MASS has seen an increase in training and electronic warfare exercises for the UK and coalition defense customers. MCL continues to work as a trusted partner to the UK Ministry of Defence and is progressing with order opportunities for electronic warfare and uncrewed systems. Chess is seeing an increase in demand for its ground-based drone defense systems. ELAC continues to support the Italian Navy program, as well as programs for NATO and Asia. And finally, we're seeing significant growth in opportunities for KraitSense and KraitArray, towed array sonar products at SEA. So all of these things are prospects rather than orders.

The value and the timing of these, of converting these into contracts, is uncertain, and the probability of winning them varies. But I hope that that helps to paint a picture of the strong demand and the kind of opportunities that we see for the group. Now, as the group has developed, our international presence has widened, and we've seen several examples of that in the first half. And that global expansion reflects our commitments to being closer to our customers and to developing defense technology solutions that will support their future needs. In our previous financial presentations, you'll have heard updates on ELAC's new facility in Kiel in Germany, and we're pleased to confirm that following our GBP 21 million investment and lots of hard work from their team, that facility is now operational. And we look forward to sharing more details during our official launch early next year.

The Italian Navy submarine program has been and continues to be an important focus for our ELAC team, and opening an office in La Spezia in Italy is a key step in strengthening our support for the Italian Navy, enabling closer collaboration, faster response times, and sustained value for this important customer. I was present at the launch event, and the enthusiasm from the Italian team for ELAC's contribution to their capability was unmistakable, and SEA has also expanded its geographical footprint with the opening of a state-of-the-art manufacturing site in Ottawa in Canada, and our vision is that the new facility will be the main manufacturing site for SEA's torpedo launcher system for customers in Canada and worldwide, and as well as delivering profitable revenue, these strategic investments support our business development activities in important international programs and long-term growth.

Now, another excellent example of our global expansion is the memorandum of understanding that I signed with the major Korean shipbuilder Hanwha Ocean at the Defense and Security Exhibition in Thailand last month. Now, this agreement signals our ambition jointly to deliver defense technologies to address the needs and requirements of the Royal Thai Navy's second phase frigate acquisition program, and the MoU will provide opportunities for businesses across the Cohort group to come together and provide a package of defense technology solutions, potentially including sonar systems, torpedo launcher systems, and communications management, and that agreement marks a key milestone in our growing relationship with Hanwha Ocean and an important step in strengthening Cohort's international partnerships.

By combining the expertise and technology from across the Cohort group with Hanwha Ocean, we can deliver naval platforms that enhance operational effectiveness and, through unique modular and open architecture design, future-proof vessels to support long-term capability and security. We're excited to be exploring new opportunities alongside Hanwha Ocean and delivering the Cohort group's market-leading maritime capabilities to the Royal Thai Navy. Now, as you know, in January this year, we acquired the Australian Satellite Communications Specialist, EM Solutions, expanding our naval defence offering and reinforcing the group's presence in Australasia. Now, led by joint managing directors, Yorgos Makris and John Logan, the business develops innovative naval satellite terminals that deliver high-speed communications worldwide, and EM Solutions is now fully integrated as the group's seventh business.

And following that successful integration, they've strengthened our performance in the first half, making the largest contribution to group profit of all of our businesses, as well as a AUD 28.6 million order intake. And we see much more opportunity ahead for the business in the coming months. Their team made an important contribution to Cohort's presence at the large DSEI exhibition in London earlier this year. And that event was valuable for discussions with EM Solutions customers for long-term prospects in Europe and Australia and Japan. And it also provided an excellent opportunity to discuss partnering with EID to provide and support satellite terminals in Portugal. Overall, it's been a very encouraging start for EM Solutions as part of the Cohort group, and they'll continue to work with our other businesses to gather intelligence on opportunities and to promote their Cobra product family.

I've explained the key factors driving demand for our defense technology products and services, and this slide shows how that demand is translating into orders for the group. The group's order intake in the period was GBP 122.3 million, delivering a closing order book of GBP 604.5 million, just below the year-end record of GBP 616 million. And our on-contract revenue stretches out to the mid-2030s, with particularly good order intake from MASS and EM Solutions within communications and intelligence, and Chess and SEA in Sensors and Effectors. And our full-year expectations for order intake remain unchanged. And we continue to see a positive outlook for organic growth in the medium term, underpinned, as I've said, by the healthy demand in our core defense markets. And that brings me almost to the end of the presentation and a summary of the main points that I wanted to make.

It's been another strong interim results period for the Cohort Group, and in part that reflects the growing demand picture that I've talked about. But importantly, it's also a result of the agility and innovation that our business model is designed to optimize and our experienced and entrepreneurial leaders. We have an active acquisition strategy, and we look for businesses that will complement our product portfolio and provide opportunities to enter new markets or to strengthen relationships with existing customers. And the contribution of EM Solutions in this latest results round is a good demonstration of how that strategy actually works in practice. Our financial strength and our public listing underpin customer confidence and enable future investment in acquisitions and in product development. We've sustained our strong order book, and looking forward, we have an exciting pipeline of further opportunities.

And finally, as a result of our performance and our prospects, the board has again felt confident to increase the dividend by 10%. Now, before closing, I want to take the opportunity to mention the great contribution to our success made by our management teams and employees. In the first half, we welcomed some new members to our leadership team. Andy Smith took over as managing director of Chess, following a successful career to date at Leonardo and Marshall. And Michael Flowers, whom some of you might remember from his Chemring days, and Clint Thomas joined us as non-executive directors at EM Solutions. And we look forward to working with them to build on the success of the group. Within our subsidiaries, our reputation as a leading mid-tier defense technology group continues to attract new talent.

It's the expertise, dynamism, practicality, and integrity of our people that will help secure future business success. We believe that our strategy for organic and acquisition-driven growth will offer our investors high-quality long-term returns, and we'll do that while creating employment, driving innovation, and enhancing the security of the UK and its allies. Thank you very much for your attention. Any questions would now be very welcome, and we'll do our best to answer.

Yes, please.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

Thanks. Ben Vara from RBC. I'll do three to start, please. Maybe kicking off with, I'll do one by one. Just on Chess in terms of delivery, so it's sort of 5% margin in the first half. Is that where you expected it to be? Obviously, you've done the management change now. Is it sort of heading the right way in terms of delivery?

How should we think about that part of the mid-teens margin there?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

We are looking for that margin to grow. As I've mentioned, we have made an important management change at Chess. But Simon, would you like to say a bit more about margin?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

Yeah, I mean, I expect that margin to double for the whole year. So we'll get back to a sort of double-digit margin for Chess in the full year. But as Andy said, the aim, as I've sort of said, is for a more sustainable growth for Chess. It's got the order book. It's got the demand. We just need to deliver and deliver well. And there's no reason why that business can't be delivering very well and into mid-teens margin. I mean, I've indicated when, but I think it could go quicker. There is good demand for what it does.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

That's a good segue into my next one, which is on the opportunity with Rheinmetall. Skyranger system, obviously, that can be quite significant there. Can you just shed a bit of light on perhaps who else is supplying into that system and the opportunity that you see from that?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

Well, of the group companies, it's Chess. So none of our other

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

As in competition, sorry. As in rival into Rheinmetall system? Or is it sold from Chess?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

There's a very strong relationship between Chess and Rheinmetall at the moment. We're their sole supplier. Now, plainly, they'll want to make sure that they get the very best supplier for their system. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of long-term competition. But at the moment, the relationship is strong. And that's despite, as people are aware, some of the difficulties in delivery in the first half and in prior years.

But essentially, they've got a product that Rheinmetall know is the best that's available at a very good price point. We've just agreed new pricing with them. So I'm confident that that's a really stable long-term relationship.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

And it's my last question, sort of similar as well, but in terms of capacity, sort of how much scale do you think you could take on at Chess and then broadly for the rest of the group as well? Obviously, you've done the investment now in Kiel. Is that it now in terms of capacity expansion?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Well, Chess's lease will come to an end on its current facility in the next few years, and so we're already looking at what the next step should be. And certainly, we'll be looking at expanded capacity there, whether it's on the current site or a new one. So there'll be a further increase there.

Elsewhere, as you've mentioned, we've already got considerably greater production capacity at Kiel than we had. At SEA, we've made considerable efforts to reorganize the large facility that we have down at Barnstaple to optimize and improve production capacity there for Ancilia and for Krait, both of which will be increasing in volume, and we have our new facility in Ottawa where we'll be doing the torpedo launch systems. So yeah, I mean, those are some good examples of how we've increased capacity. We'll obviously be responding to future demand and future contracts, but at the moment, I think we'll be able to meet the demand that we see.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

Thanks. No other questions. I'll go again.

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

You can have another one if you like, Ben.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

Thanks. Saab and Poland, understand your part of that system.

Can you maybe chat through that opportunity to the extent that you can and perhaps the other opportunities that ELAC has in the submarine sonar system?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Yeah, so I mean, nothing's done till it's done, and I don't think it's a done deal that we'll be providing the sonar systems for Poland. But we do have a very close relationship with Saab, and we were delighted to see them win. So I see that as a good opportunity looking forward. Elsewhere, yes, we see opportunities. The Canadian submarine program, for example, is a potential opportunity. That's a very large opportunity. And there are others around the world as well. ELAC also has good opportunity on surface ships, and we see particularly the Italian Navy, where we've already got a really strong relationship providing the submarine sonars being a good opportunity there.

We have good relationships with Fincantieri, who's likely to be building those, and beyond that, I think some of the new technology that ELAC is working on has some really good applications in protection of underwater infrastructure, which, as we know, is so important, both underwater cables and underwater pipelines, and they're developing technology not only to detect threats to underwater infrastructure, but also to deal with them with a new effector system, which they will launch next year.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

Last one. ELAC's provision, obviously, that could unwind this year. Can you just chat through the steps in that, so you've got the factory acceptance tests, and then how should we think about the provisioning on the sort of next three boats as you go?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

I'll say a quick word, which is that we'll be releasing that as we gain confidence in the risk reduction.

I mean, that's the primary and important point, and the key steps in that will be the factory acceptance test, the harbor acceptance test when the submarine is in the water and alongside, and that will obviously require the system to be fully fitted to the submarine, and eventually, and the final and most important one is the sea trials, where the submarine is actually out at sea tracking surface ships and submarines using the sonar system, and it's only really when the first ship set has reached that point that we'll be able to iron out all the risk in the program, but Simon, do you want to talk about the steps in that?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

I mean, Andy's highlighted them. I mean, what we've done, we've obviously linked the provision to particular milestones. The timing, the fact timing for true acceptance tests is a bit more in our control.

I talk about the first ship set delivery in the first half of 2026. That's that thing. Sadly, the harbor acceptance and sea acceptance are more in the hands of the shipbuilder. My experience of many years in defense suggests that most ships' programs tend to slip a bit to the right. We can't be certain on the timing of those, but we will continue to monitor it closely. Obviously, once we're through the first ship set, the risks for two, three, and four hopefully will be considerably less.

Ben Vara
Analyst, RBC

Thanks. I'll leave it there. Good about the thing.

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

Not that I ever expected this to happen, but the kind of catastrophic risk where you put the first one together and think, "Cracky, this doesn't work." That hasn't happened. The thing is in pretty good shape.

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

I've seen all the flank arrays, all 104 of them in the factory, all wired up and being factory acceptance tested as a sonar, obviously not on the ship, but they are all there. It's quite impressive. Vast stream of data. Sure.

Andy Edmond
CEO, Equity Development

I'm giving Ben a rest now. Andy Edmond, Equity Development. Simon, in terms of the work to be done in producing or satisfying orders in the second half, which you've obviously budgeted for, any issues in terms of logistics and supply of critical materials that you've had to deal with, or you're quite happy with the situation at the moment?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

Fine. We've got there, so the infill is actually relatively small. If you look at it as a percentage on consensus revenue, it's around about GBP 12 million. So it's not as there's no one item. It's a bit of a till roll and across various businesses.

MCL has the biggest risk. In terms of underlying supplier issues, I mean, again, Chess has faced some challenges in that respect, more than their other businesses. The other businesses, I mean, the German business pretty much sources, I think, 90% of its equipment from within sort of an hour's drive of Kiel. So it's quite remarkable. The German industrial base is quite remarkable. The U.K. is pretty good. As I say, Chess has got some reliance on, particularly with the motors and some elements of the systems with, obviously, rare earth metals. So we have to keep an eye on those things. Generally, though, things are not as bad as they were a few years ago, but we do get the odd issue

Andy Edmond
CEO, Equity Development

and in terms of we covered capacity or infrastructure or material capacity. What about human capacity?

Is it still easy to find the right quality of engineers and technicians at sensible prices?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Yeah. I mean, we've continued to grow. We're up at what, nearly 1,700 now, and 1,600 after shedding quite a few with the transport sale, and I think the huge draw of the FAANGs a few years ago has lightened up quite a bit, and we can offer really interesting careers to people. I mean, I think there are sort of engineers with PhDs around who want to spend their careers working in a cubicle, getting better and better at the same problem, but for people who want to interact with the customer and solve real practical problems quickly, which, to my mind, are the best kind of engineers, we can offer them a really interesting life.

I mean, we've seen a focus sort of shift a bit, particularly at Chess, ELAC, EM Solutions, and SEA, to more production engineering and sort of because they are moving into those phases of hence the working capital build. It's about delivery, and production engineers are absolutely vital to that. So we will, over time, we are seeing a bit of a shift, but we're not having a problem recruiting people at the moment.

Andy Edmond
CEO, Equity Development

And then just lastly, Andy, I know the answer to this, but I'm sure you'd like to give it. There is obviously an increasing chance of some sort of Ukraine peace deal being brokered by the president. I would assume, for all the reasons that you know very well, that you're not seeing any change of interest from other neighboring states around Russia or Central Europe in, again, strengthening their own defenses.

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

No.

I was at the First Sea Lord's Sea Power Conference on Monday, actually, and the comments made were sort of Chatham House Rule and unattributable, but by senior officials in the Ministry of Defence. And the comment was, and this is perfectly believable, that almost the worst outcome for Europe would be a settlement favorable to Vladimir Putin in Ukraine, which is what Donald Trump is pushing at the moment. You've got a Russian economy which is addicted to war and feeding itself on war. And you would then give Vladimir Putin a reward for the huge gamble that he took in invading Ukraine in the first place. And it's not really difficult to see. You would have both push and pull in moving on to the next stage.

And you've only got to look at a map to see how vulnerable the eastern parts of NATO are and to Kaliningrad, the potential for a corridor there. The Russian economy, there was an article in the BBC today, is producing 150 tanks and 550 infantry fighting vehicles a month. A month. Now, 550 infantry fighting vehicles is just a little less than the Ajax program for infantry fighting vehicles that the U.K. embarked on in 2014 and has just realized that it hasn't successfully delivered. So I mean, that gives you an idea of the strength of Russia, of what we face. And that just can't switch itself off overnight. So I'm sorry to say that a settlement in Ukraine would be bad news for Europe, not good news if it favors Vladimir Putin, and we would face an enhanced risk.

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

I would add, I mean, that's an article by Frank Gardner on how long would Britain last in a war. So it's a bit salutary, but read it. The other thing I would add is basically in Europe, the further north, the further east you are, the spend levels are quite remarkable, and none of you can not miss what Norway has been doing, Sweden, Finland, Poland, the Baltics, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark. I mean, it's quite remarkable.

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Yeah, and they're quite well funded as well. Those suffering states as well, I think.

Andy Edmond
CEO, Equity Development

Totally agree. Thank you. Following the SDR and this country are pretty good at having reviews and making plans with the Defence Investment Plan coming out. First, what would you look for? And second, when would you look for it?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Yeah.

I think we had a peek at that on Monday with the announcements about Atlantic Bastion, which, incidentally, is something that's very important to SEA. We would see the KraitArray having a significant role to play in that, as well as some other Sensors that SEA produces. So yes, we'd be looking for priorities, really, in terms of investment and timing of investment on the things that were announced in the Strategic Defence Review. What I'd hope to see would be early investment in naval capability. We'd obviously be keen to see, and I think it's very important, an upgrade in the Navy's satellite communications capability. That's something I believe that we can deliver. And an upgrade in terms of speed in delivering the new submarines, the AUKUS submarines, I think that's vitally important for us and for Australia as well.

And I would want to see an emphasis on air defense, drone defense in particular. I think that's vitally important, something that was perhaps treated a little bit lightly in the Strategic Defence Review. So there's a lot of priorities that we can see. And I think the Strategic Defense Review, which outlined what those priorities are, they were very, very well aligned with the group's capability. In terms of timing, could we have it three months ago, please? I think I said at the time that these things are not necessarily quickly translated from words into action, but especially given that the content of the SDR focused so much on the urgency of these and the timescale and the need rapidly to move to a posture where we can credibly provide some kind of deterrence against the Russian threat, I'm afraid I don't think we've moved fast enough.

Thomas Rands
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Berenberg

Good morning. Thomas Rands from Berenberg. Just two questions, if I may. Given the success of EM Solutions, how does the M&A pipeline look at the moment? Has there been any kind of material change in kind of sellers' expectations, valuation-wise, or any new opportunities that have come across your desk that look quite interesting?

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

We're always getting a constant stream of opportunities. And a proportion of those we take seriously enough to have a good look at. And there's never a time when we haven't got a few coming across our desks. But we are quite choosy. We're keen only to find businesses where both there is an opportunity to get access to a growth sector of the market, not as difficult to find as they used to be, but still not all of them, but also where there is an opportunity to gain some sustainable competitive advantage.

And that's much harder with barriers to entry to a lot of things being relatively low at the moment. So yeah, I mean, we're always on the lookout. And as soon as we see something that meets our criteria that will really enable us to develop the business, then we'll take action accordingly, and we'll pursue it energetically. In terms of valuations, well, valuations of all businesses go up when revenue, profit, order book, and long-term prospects go up, and they have recently. So I would expect that to be the case. But the first thing I would say is that EM Solutions was by no means the highest multiple we've paid, which actually goes back to MASS in 2006.

And things are different at our end of the market to the large packs of data which our respected investment banking friends like to provide us with that talk about sort of bulge bracket deals and things. We're dealing at a smaller level of the market. We're dealing with agile, small and medium-sized businesses and those. So changes in the macro picture don't necessarily flow down to that level.

Thomas Rands
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Berenberg

Thank you. Very clear answer. Second question, more for Simon. On the working cap, how do you see the phasing of that unwind in the second half of the year?

Simon Walther
Finance Director, Cohort plc

The strong delivery point for us will be basically January to March. That is typically what happens.

I mean, MOD is obviously a big customer of ours, but also the other programs that are driving the working capital, particularly the Italian program, one in Portugal and one in Australia, have all got strong deliveries to take place in January to March. By April, normally things generally are quieted down a bit, but normally there'll be something slips over from March into April. But that is the real, real busy period for us. That first calendar quarter will be very busy. So that's when we'll see the working capital start to flow back. Thank you.

Moderator

Hello. We have one question from the webcast from John Good. He's saying, "Chemring have come out and said they are seeing setbacks in their divisions, particularly in Sensors due to delay in government spending.

Are Cohorts currently seeing or expecting similar delays?"

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

Well, I would say that we have seen some, how to put it, I mean, the UK MOD has not been as active and as quick as it's always been, and that's perhaps in the run-up to the release of the Defence Investment Plan, but what I would say is that it hasn't had a material effect on us, and it doesn't flow into these results at all. Our major U.K. programs are in flight, so to speak, so we're not really waiting for orders in the same way.

Moderator

Brilliant. Thank you. That's all from the webcast, so back to you for some closing remarks,

Andy Thomis
CEO, Cohort plc

well, thank you all very much indeed for your attention. I mean, just to summarize, I think it's been a strong first half.

I think we're back to our more traditional H1, H2 split after an exceptional year last year when MCL made almost all of its profit in the first half. But our expectations for the full year, which means for continued growth, are unchanged. And we're looking forward to continuing in what is, I mean, as you'll have heard this morning, a worrying time in many respects, but also for a business like ours where we're contributing to the security and deterrence of the U.K. and its allies, an exciting time. So thank you very much.

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