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Earnings Call: H2 2025

May 15, 2025

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Vertu Motors Plc Final Results Investor Presentation. Throughout this recorded presentation, investors will be in listen-only mode. Questions are encouraged; they can be submitted at any time via the Q&A tab. It is just situated on the right-hand corner of your screen. Please just simply type in your questions and press send. The company may not be in a position to answer every question it receives during the meeting itself. However, the company can review all questions submitted today and will publish those responses where it is appropriate to do so. Before we begin, we would like to submit the following poll, and if you could just give that your kind attention, I am sure the company would be most grateful. I would now like to hand you over to the Executive Management Team from Vertu Motors plc. Robert, good afternoon, sir.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

Good afternoon, and thank you for hosting this. I'm accompanied this afternoon by our CFO, Karen Anderson, and you can see the slides. We'll make a start. We'll keep this to an hour, so we will finish at 4:30 P.M. Next slide. The investment case of Vertu Motors, I think, is very clear. We are the only major quoted player in the U.K. franchise retailer space, which used to have a lot of quoted PLCs. Our long-term investment case, I think, remains very sound and reflects our strong strategic position. We are one of six super groups with turnover in excess of GBP 4 billion operating in the U.K. franchise dealer space. We've got the widest geographic coverage and the widest manufacturer footprint in the U.K. and have around 5% of the U.K. car market. We're also very strong in vans with a similar market share.

The scale that we've got, we employ around 7,800 people, gives us very strong IT, in-house capabilities, marketing capabilities, and we have a business model that allows us to deliver scale economies. The jewel in the crown of our business is the high-margin after-sales business built on a database of 2 million customers with high levels of customer experience and very long-term retention strategies, making that high-margin revenue stream very resilient. We have a culture of focusing on the controllables, and clearly, in the last 12 months, that came to the fore. We have a history of strong execution. We've moved in the last three months to a single brand, so all our dealerships, bar our Ferrari operation, are branded Vertu, and we expect that to deliver around GBP 5 million of medium-term savings.

We have also introduced, post the budget, a cost reduction program, which more than offsets the costs imposed by Rachel Reeves on the business from April onwards. We have a strong focus on capital allocation. We are constantly reviewing our portfolio of dealerships. Have we got the right franchises? Are they delivering the right returns? We then move capital from low-performing return dealerships through closure programs to investing in new higher return activities. Our share price is clearly below our tangible net asset value of GBP 0.729, and we have had a significant share buyback program in place for a number of years. We have bought in excess of 17% of the equity of the group back, and we expect that to continue. In terms of the highlights of the period, this was, I think, a creditable performance given the major sector headwinds that the sector faced in the new car market.

It is clearly very disappointing to see profits fall, which were as a result of the government zero-emission vehicle mandate, which disrupted significantly the new car market, as you will see. The business itself actually operationally performed well. We took market share in new retail cars, and we grew profit in used and after-sales. It was the new car market that created the profit backtrack. There were a number of other positives. Our margin rose overall due to the higher after-sales mix. We had an excellent H2 cash generation, which beat consensus net debt numbers quite significantly. As I say, our proactive actions around cost reduction and the share buyback, I think, have been well taken by investors. We have additionally made a strong start to the new financial year, and there is more details here.

You can see our gross profit at the core group has increased by GBP 2.5 million in March and April, and our trading profits were up in that same period, which is a good start to the new year. We saw strong growth in the new retail volumes, particularly in March. The market for new retail is actually at a 25-year low in 2024. The sector sold fewer new retail cars than during COVID, when most of the time we were shut. Clearly, that is now coming back, which is good to see. In March, particularly, we earned very high levels of bonuses from our manufacturers. You can still see, though, on the profit bridge that new vehicle gross profit generation actually dipped slightly on a like-for-like basis. This was due to the 22% fall in the Motability volumes, which reflected weaker national volumes and some mixed impacts.

Fleet and commercials, which is a very strong part of our business, we're the leading player in fleet and vans in the country. Overall, strong growth, returning volumes, and it's good to see vans starting to outperform what is now a weaker market. Used cars generated higher profit in the core group. Used cars are a very important profit stream for us. We were up GBP 0.9 million, and that's due to higher margins. We've had very strong control of stocks, very good stock return, and reduced discounting. The engine room of our profitability is clearly after-sales, and you can see yet again in the two-month period a GBP 2.1 million improvement in core gross profit based on 6.1% service revenue growth on a like-for-like basis. A good start. Where do we go from here?

I think the growth in the new retail car market bodes well for the rest of the year. We've got lower interest rates, which should help us. The zero-emission mandate, which caused so much damage last year, has been moderated, though it's unclear how much that moderation is in place because the full technical details of the changes are broadly unknown. There still remains the risk of discounting and rationing of petrol and diesel cars going forward, but any moderation is to be applauded. It is quite clear, though, just to put into context, that the battery electric vehicle target mix for this year, set by the government, is 28%. I can categorically state that will not be achieved. I think the industry is running around 21%, and I can't see that getting much better.

After-sales remains in very resilient growth mode, and used cars are seeing stability in pricing due to continued supply constraints due to the cars that were never sold during the COVID period. Demand is pretty solid, but margins are on the move. I think customer demand should be helped in both new and used cars by the lower interest rates. One flag we have made is that battery electric vehicle residuals of deflated contracts from, say, 3 years ago are likely to see pressure on those residual values, both as a result of the increased supply and also the technological advancement in the intervening 3 years. We'll continue to focus on the controllables, last year's acquisitions and startups, which negatively contributed, should move to profitability. Clearly, we're going to gain the benefit of the strong cost control we've had, and capital allocation will remain critical.

We will evaluate and undertake acquisitions where they meet our hurdle rates, recognizing the sector uncertainty. We have substantially reduced capital expenditure in the forthcoming year, and we will continue clearly to balance dividends and buybacks. If we turn to our strategy, strategy is very clear and has been very consistent. We're just quite keen on speeding it up. In terms of growth, the strategy is to grow the scale of the business, but also to ensure that our future manufacturer portfolio actually reflects the future shape of U.K. automotive. Clearly, that will need some degree of Chinese component, as we'll go through later on. There's no doubt that sector headwinds will create growth opportunities. In terms of digitalization, we have 60 in-house software and technology developers, and it's critical in terms of delivering the customer experience, but also in driving sales.

It is equally critical in controlling costs, and we have got plans very much set out to make further efficiencies to our business in the next few months. The business is fundamentally a people business. We sell to people, and the experience is delivered by people. Our customer experience scores are excellent, and our colleague satisfaction scores are strong, despite the fact we have gone through a rationalization process over the last few months. We are attractive as a sector player, and a lot of our competitors have been subject to takeovers and integrations, and that instability is making us able to recruit some top-class people. If we take a deeper look at some of the sector trends, there are three highlighted here. We have not put agency, which is where manufacturers directly invoice customers, down here, because we do not really see that as a major risk going forward.

In fact, a number of manufacturers have been pulling away from agency. If we take electrification, the zero-emission mandate, which was so difficult for the industry to deal with because of the high targets and the worst finding mechanism in the Western world, produced the worst market in 25 years for new retail cars and a discounting environment where the manufacturers actually spent GBP 4.5 billion last year discounting electric vehicles. The government have responded. There are unspecified flexibilities, which I think the manufacturers have welcomed. Hopefully this year will be less affected by the zero-emission mandate. It is, however, still an uncertainty. There is no chance of hitting 28% this year, and this latest moderation will be one of a number of retreats from this government policy over the next 5-10 years.

If we turn to tariffs and Chinese entrance, and I think the two things are linked, there is clearly uncertainty as to how the U.K. automotive sector will be impacted by the global Trump tariffs of 25%. Luckily now, we've got the U.K. with its trade deal of a 10% tariff. I think we're the only country where the automotive tariff is 10%. That takes a lot of pressure off U.K. manufacturing as to be much welcomed. However, there is always the risk that manufacturers in Europe or Asia who have to potentially bring down their level of exports to the U.S. move some of that excess supply into the U.K., and that could lead to margin pressure. That's certainly one to watch. Turning to China, there's no doubt that the Chinese market overproduces cars compared to domestic demand.

They're now switching their focus to export, and the cars, particularly electric vehicles, but also hybrids, are absolutely excellent product and are making swift market share gains across the globe, including in the U.K. We partner with Geely, we partner with MG, and we're increasingly partnering with BYD, and we're seeing the BYD in particular taking significant share. There is always the potential for geopolitical changes and even tariffs to come into play to actually reduce the effectiveness of new Chinese brands coming into the U.K. For example, President Biden put a 100% tariff on electric vehicles in China in the U.S. The EU have got tariffs of up to 48%. We're currently at 10%. That may change, and clearly we'd have to take account of that and certainly take account of that risk. We are the only major Western market that doesn't have significant tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles.

We will be increasing our exposure to Chinese brands in the months and the years ahead. If we turn to the Finance Commission, you'll see much in the press about these issues around regulation. The FCA are reviewing discretionary commission arrangements, but they've said they will not report until the Supreme Court has concluded on its review of the Court of Appeal decision in October-November to actually impose a fiduciary duty retrospectively with regards to credit broking, and we are a credit broker under FCA regulation. We would anticipate that the Supreme Court would, in the summer this year, actually probably overturn that Court of Appeal decision. The hearing has now been heard, and then the FCA will decide how it deals with discretionary commission arrangements.

The board does not consider the current time that we need to make provisions in relation to any of these exposures, and we will keep shareholders updated. If we turn to digitalization, efficiency, and finance efficiency and making our back offices and administration processes more efficient has been on the agenda for a number of years, and we made big strides, actually, particularly coming out of COVID. We are now going again on this. Our 60 technology developers are working very hard in this area. For example, reducing the number of invoices that need manual processing. We have got a smart repair business that works internally. It sends 30,000 invoices to the dealerships. We are piloting a system where that is all completely automated, including cash payment. Transfer of used vehicles from one dealership to another are all now completely automated from an administration and a cash point of view.

These are important because we can make further cost savings. If we take the middle block of data and AI, we have got an AI algorithm which calculates both trade and retail price of every used car in stock and in the U.K. every day. We reprice about 70% of our used cars daily, so they are at the right price. Prices can go up as well as down. What we've looked at there is if we've got back the value of the cars right on the internet and it's at the right price, why are we still discounting used cars? You can see that up to September, we were discounting around 80% of our used cars, so we've got it at the right price and we're still giving money off. We've managed to reduce that now down to 50% of used cars with a discount.

The way we did that was using automated alerts. If a car has a discount of over GBP 500, it goes to Operations Director. If the discount's over GBP 1,000, it comes directly to me. You can see the impact. We've made that solid reduction in discounting, which has augmented our margin. The final element we've done a lot of work on. We've got a very, very good data warehouse where all our data now sits. That interacts with our customer data platform, and we are increasingly using that to drive digital marketing and to make general efficiencies in how we operate. As an example, we've reduced our Google pay-per-click spend by around 3% over the last few months by using the customer data platform to tell Google who's bought a car recently and not sending them a further Google pay-per-click ad, which we have to pay for.

Finally, in the strategy section on brand and marketing, we announced to our shareholders last October when we did our interims that we would be rebranding from three brands to one. Around half of the group was branded Vertu, and the rest were Macklin Motors and Bristol Street Motors. We achieved the final switch over in April, so we are now one brand as a retail group. That is one website, for example, much more simple for us to operate, and that allows us to take some cost savings. It also increases the effectiveness of our marketing. For example, in sponsoring the EFL Trophy at Wembley under the Vertu brand, that now affects 200 dealerships as opposed to 90 or so 12 months ago. We are getting a much bigger bang for our buck.

It also allows us to do nationwide TV campaigns to promote the dealerships and get the full benefit of that. Now I would like to turn to Karen to review the financial performance.

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

Thank you, Robert. If we start here on the income statement, you can see that revenues increased year- on- year, and all of that growth is attributed to acquisitions. Revenues in the core group actually saw a small decline due to lower new retail vehicle volumes. Gross margin improved slightly to 11.2%, and that is due to the increased mix of our higher margin after-sales revenues. Cost grew as a percentage of revenue, reflecting the cost pressures in the period and also reflecting acquisitions and new business startups, which have a higher ratio of expenses as a percentage of revenues.

Adjusted operating profit reduced year- on- year, driven by the reduction in profitability from the new car channel, which I'll highlight shortly on the profits bridge. This reduction has flown through to EPS and dividends per share. We saw an increase in the group's interest costs compared to last year. We have manufacturer stocking charges making up GBP 0.9 million of this increase as pipelines extended a little with the new car market. Interest on lease liabilities also increased due to leases acquired in the period or lease extensions negotiated in the period. We have some non-underlying costs, which represent the cost of the group's reorganization and redundancy cost as we worked hard to offset the impacts of the autumn budget in advance of the new financial year.

If we turn over the page to the profits bridge, core gross profit increased by GBP 7 million over the prior year, and that has really been driven by that strong performance from after-sales. Clearly, the standout negative in gross profit generation terms is a GBP 10.9 million reduction in gross profit from the sale of new vehicles. This was driven by the lowest U.K. retail market in 25 years, which Robert has mentioned, along with significant discounting by manufacturers of battery electric vehicles and striving to hit government targets. That really impacted, particularly in quarter four, their ability to support and pay bonuses to the dealer network. Offsetting this shortfall was the highly improved gross profit generation from after-sales, as I said, and also from improved gross profit generation from used cars.

You can see also the impact of the cost pressures in the period where core group gross costs increased by GBP 10 million. I've already covered the finance costs on the previous slide, but you can also see a year-on-year reduction in profitability relating to acquisitions and new startups. This was expected given the biggest acquisition that the group made was made in October, and so that missed out in terms of the key plate change months. Turning to management of cost headwinds, you can see on this slide that the core group saw a GBP 10 million increase. That was all shown on the profits bridge, a rise of 2.2%. We were delighted this was below the rate of inflation over the same period. Clearly, the biggest single cost of the group is the cost of its people.

We are a people business, and actually more so when you realize that this salary cost here does not include the productive cost of technicians because they are within cost of sales. Salary costs rose GBP 11.6 million over the year, with GBP 8 million of this increase arising in the first half. That rate of growth moderated to an increase of GBP 3.7 million in the second half, and that's reflective of the early action we took in response to the budget in terms of cost saving. Looking at the total increase on the year, about GBP 6 million can be attributed to the rise in national minimum wage back in April 2024 and the knock-on impacts in terms of maintaining differentials for some skilled colleagues.

Approximately a further GBP 4 million of the increase, which all arose in the first half, related to increased headcount as the group was successful in reducing outstanding vacancy levels. One of the greatest percentage variances in cost terms is in vehicle and valeting costs, and this is the cost of the group's courtesy and demonstrator fleet in particular, where we saw higher levels of demonstrator and courtesy cars with higher prices because they now include more battery electric vehicles, which are generally more expensive. The group applied increased depreciation rates, particularly to battery electric vehicles, to make sure that at the end of demonstrator periods, they hit used car stock for sale at the right value. Countering some of these cost increases was a significant saving delivered in marketing costs.

The group right-sized its marketing activity in response to the reduced new car retail market and also as a result of our used car pricing algorithm, which Robert's covered, which meant that there was less requirement for used car sale events. If we turn over to the balance sheet, the group's balance sheet is very stable and strong, underpinned by a strong freehold and long leasehold property portfolio at GBP 331 million, which has carried up historic depreciated costs. The increase in current assets relates predominantly to the movement in inventory. New vehicle pipeline inventory, the majority of which is funded by our manufacturer partners, did increase as the market fell and pipelines extended. The group, however, had been successful in reducing the level of demonstrator and courtesy vehicles at the balance sheet date in response, obviously, to those rising vehicle costs I've just gone through.

Used vehicle inventory increased by GBP 3.3 million in the total group. However, this was a result of acquisitions, and in the core group, we successfully held inventory at lower levels, and we saw a reduction despite higher average selling prices. Tangible net assets per share, as Robert has mentioned, are GBP 72.9 per share. This clearly reflects the strong asset backing of the group, and actually, this was increased on last year's level as a result of the share buyback program, as you can see, tangible net assets were broadly unchanged year- on- year. If we turn to the group's cash flows, the group generated a free cash inflow of GBP 37.3 million in the year. This was aided by a GBP 7 million inflow from working capital compared to last February.

The main elements of this were a GBP 6.2 million cash inflow in reductions in used vehicle stock and the demonstrators, a GBP 2.1 million cash inflow from reduced holdings of fully paid, so not funded by the manufacturer, but on our own balance sheet, fully paid new vehicles, and some other cash inflows of GBP 1.5 million. These inflows were partially offset by a small GBP 2.8 million increase in debtors, and that's a result of the group's investment in the group's pay later product, which has helped drive improved after-sales performance. This minimum bad debt experience is at reduced cost to the group compared to the previous third-party provider for this that we used, and therefore has given a strong return on investment. Sustaining capital expenditure of about GBP 15 million was spent in the period, with this partially offset by proceeds from the sale of surplus property of GBP 5.6 million.

We spent a further GBP 12.1 million on capital projects that expand the capacity of the group, such as the new Toyota dealership in Ayr, as well as on acquisition in terms of acquisitions as well. Net debt at the end of the period was GBP 66.6 million, excluding lease liabilities, and that represented a GBP 12.6 million increase on FY 2024, despite us expending GBP 22.4 million on the Burrows acquisition in terms of both the cash consideration we paid and the debt that we assumed on that acquisition. If I turn over to the next slide in terms of portfolio development, one of the group's strategic objectives of growth. If we look at the activity during the year, I've already mentioned the Burrows acquisition, which was eight outlets, including five Toyota.

We also made two smaller acquisitions, both in the period and immediately after the year-end, a Honda business in the Southwest, and also UNION MOTOR CO, LTD, which augments our LEVC business, such that we now have coordinated sales and after-sales for LEVC across Scotland. We saw a number of startup operations in the year listed and explained on this slide. You will notice on the profits bridge, we obviously saw profits go backwards as a result of acquisitions and startups. That is because startup operations take time to mature and generate profit. The startup year is typified by high marketing cost, a low customer database, and low after-sales absorption. As the business matures, clearly the database builds, our after-sales absorption improves, and therefore, it is not uncommon for businesses like these to have startup losses in the initial years of operation.

The group has a pipeline of potential acquisitions, which we assess using strict investment metrics to ensure that the expected return on capital on these acquisitions will exceed the group's weighted average cost of capital. In terms of other elements of capital allocation, clearly we want to grow, but also we want to make sure that we've got a well-giving portfolio which gives us a required level of return. We have an exercise called pruning where we look at our existing portfolio and identify assets that are not generating the required levels of return. Clearly, there are a number of reasons why this might be the case. It might be management. It might be the franchise. If we exhaust all of the opportunities, we'll then look to potentially close the business. We've closed two businesses in the year.

That's allowed us to recycle both the working capital absorbed in these businesses and sell the freeholds in order to free up cash to reinvest in better return assets. The group's had a share buyback program in place since financial year 2018, and actually we've bought back over 17% of the group shares since that date. We announced a GBP 12 million share buyback in February, and to the end of April, it spent GBP 2.2 million of this, leaving GBP 9.8 million for the rest of FY 2026. We've also purchased some shares into the Employee Benefit Trust in the year. Finally, in terms of dividends, we think that's also an important element of shareholder return. In total, we paid GBP 59 million in dividends since we started paying.

The final dividend of GBP 1.15 per share, bringing the full year dividend to GBP 2.05 per share, is in line with our stated dividend cover policy of diluted EPS of 2.5x-3 .5x .

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

Okay, thank you, Karen. We're now going to go through more of the trading and operational update, take a look in each of the revenue streams in turn and see how those trends have been. If we look at vehicle sales performance, you can see we split how we think about the business between the new retail market, the Motability market, fleet car, new commercial vans, and then used. Used is split between retail, where we sell to customers, and trade, where we predominantly send those cars through to British car auctions.

The big story, as Karen showed me on the profit bridge, was the declining market in new retail car sales. Now, the market was already 20% lower than pre-COVID, but the impact of the zero emission mandate had a very significant impact. The impact was actually mainly on the manufacturers who bore the brunt of it with significant margin pressure. I've already referred to the GBP 4.5 billion estimated discounts, according to the SMMT, which the manufacturers gave. We found margins under pressure due to that forcing of battery electric vehicle supply into the U.K., but also reduced manufacturer support because the manufacturers were really struggling with the dynamics of the market. They were having to discount heavily the battery electric vehicles, and they were having to ration the petrol and diesel product on which they were making very, very good margins.

That is not good either for them, or indeed there's a knock-on effect in terms of our profitability. There was an increased mix of the lower margin Motability business. As you could see, the volumes like for like were stable in Motability, but down in new retail. That also diluted our margin. Overall, a GBP 10.9 million gross profit reduction in the core, which was clearly painful. Having said that, we gained market share. You can see we beat the new retail market on a like-for-like basis. As you'll see in a moment, we absolutely murdered the Battery Electric Vehicle market. The way that the manufacturers sought to try and avoid fines, try and hit the target, was in the channels of fleet and Motability, and that saw much more buoyant growth than in the retail channel.

It came at a cost because it needs much higher discounts from the manufacturers, putting pressure on the manufacturer's profitability. In terms of Motability, we saw growth in H1. We saw that go into reverse in H2. We think this is the renewal timing. During COVID, there was no supply to Motability. Then there was a big burst of supply. Over the last 18 months, we've been renewing that bubble, as it were, in terms of renewals, which has now tempered down. We are also actually losing some share because Ford and Vauxhall, who are particularly strong historically, are pulling back in terms of their product availability and share of Motability. We've lost some share there. In terms of fleet and commercial, we do not enter into massive amounts of supply into the daily rental market. Some of it is actually done direct by manufacturers.

It is very, very low margin, and it's not something we prioritize. We want a profitable fleet business. We have seen an increase in the market and supply into daily rental. That shows you this is a push market with oversupply compared to retail demand. Our margins have been stable, and we have seen significant growth in fleet cars, which we are pleased with. We are the largest operator in fleet. Profit overall has been stable. In used cars, we're delighted. A GBP 5.7 million rise in profit year- on- year like for like, as prices stabilized after its wobbles in Q4 calendar in 2023. We have seen robust trade prices. There is fundamentally a lack of used cars in the U.K. It is perfectly explainable. There was a lack of new cars sold in 2020 to 2021.

There was about GBP 3.6 million missing cars, and that means that used car prices should be robust. Demand was, I think, steady. I do not think we saw margins expand the extent to which we expected them to because demand was steady rather than growing. We clearly had issues around consumer confidence, interest rates, and substitution into new. As the pressure came on the new car market and we got cheap finance rates from the manufacturers on new car offers and discounting, particularly on battery electric vehicles, there was a switch in from used into new. If we look particularly at the used vehicle BEV market, I think there are some interesting statistics here. You can see that the private battery electric vehicle market in the U.K. actually grew by 12.9%.

We actually grew our like-for-like battery electric vehicle sales by 83%, which, given the fact we have 5% of the market, is quite some achievement. We were certainly helped by some of our manufacturers who prioritized battery electric vehicle sales with some fantastic offers. For example, we are the largest player in the U.K. with Honda, and the e:Ny1 had some phenomenal offers and became, I think it was the biggest selling electric vehicle in both March and September. If you look at the bottom right, though, this is the story of the new car market last year. You can see the percentage of battery electric vehicles by registration type. Bear in mind the target was 22%. In private retail, only 10.7% mix. In Motability, 17%, and then in fleet, 30%.

Clearly, that is why the fleet market took off compared to retail, because the manufacturers and ourselves were constrained about trying to avoid the manufacturers trying to avoid fines, and the fleet market was the go-to market, both for corporates, company car drivers with tax advantages, and the rise of salary sacrifice schemes, again, due to tax advantages. There are no fiscal incentives for private customers to buy battery electric vehicles. In fact, from the 1st of April, vehicle excise duty on electric vehicles actually went up. We were pleased that we beat the market. We were particularly pleased that two of our dealerships led their franchise in battery electric vehicle sales, being Hereford Volkswagen and York MINI. You have seen on the profit bridge that after-sales significantly increased its core gross profit, like for like, GBP 12.3 million increase. This is a high-margin, resilient business that has good growth prospects.

All major segments grew. We have a very strong customer base with 160,000 people with service plans, meaning they're coming back, and 48,000 Motability customers who are definitely coming back. You can see revenue growth across the piece, and you can see margins pretty strong. Bit of weakness in parts due to increased warranty mix there, but strong margins coming out of after-sales. If we dig a bit deeper into service, we were reporting a couple of years ago shortages of technicians. That was constraining our growth. We have significantly improved the number of technicians in the core business. Our competitors have closed quite a number of dealerships. That's freed up technician resource, which we've taken advantage of, and we've enhanced our pay in the past 18 months, which has also helped. You can see the core business has got far more resource. This is about selling hours.

In terms of retention, the depressed new vehicle market means the park of about 32 million vehicles is aging. The average age of a car into our service department is now 4.93 years. Fifty percent of our used car sales go out with a service plan where the customer is then committed to come back for a service cost-effectively for around three years. Karen referred to the pay later product. This is helping to drive significant growth within after-sales. A car comes in, we do a vehicle health check, we identify work that is either needed to be done today for safety reasons or in the next six months. We then ring the customer, get agreement, and we allow deferred payment on a 0% basis for three months to help with the conversion, and that is driving an improvement in average invoice value.

Average invoice values in service were up 8%. We're also using relatively sophisticated marketing. We're using behavioral psychology specialists that have to market on the internet and in a lot of emails, CRM mailings to drive sales. Our summer and winter checks have grown considerably using those techniques. We sell a lot of tires. We've got the franchise dealer network, and us in particular, have been very good at selling tires. I think last year we delivered a 14% increase. This year we've delivered a 12% like-for-like increase in tires. In summary, we feel we've got a lot to do to improve the business. It is a very large business. Myself and Karen and our COO founded the business 19 years ago. We have a very, very stable management team that hopefully has gained some experience in those 19 years.

We've got, as you can see from the balance sheet, a very well-capitalized, asset-backed business with the firepower to expand further. Scale is important, both in terms of manufacturer arrangements and in terms of being able to fund modern marketing and technology. That digitalization area is of supreme importance, both in terms of making it easy for customers to deal with us, but also for reducing cost and increasing efficiency. There is a myriad of work required in that area. We are, though, a people business. The people will never be replaced by technology. The technology will enable the colleagues to be more efficient and to serve customers better. We're very proud of the culture that we've got, which is definitely a meritocracy where people can come in, train hard, work hard, thrive, and have fantastic long-term careers.

We are clearly also focused as a business on capital allocation, and that will continue as we strive to deliver shareholder returns. That is the end of the presentation. I'm pleased to see there are some questions here, and I'm also pleased to see they're not all directed at me. Karen, the first question comes from Ben S., and it's a good question. 2026 forecasts show an increase in revenue, but a decline in EBITDA and PBT. What are the main reasons for this forecasted decline?

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

Yeah, the turmoil in the new car market was really the reason for that forecast decline. The ZEV mandate requirement for 2025 was, sorry, for 2024 was 22% mix. That mix was going up. The behavior that the manufacturers had exhibited in terms of big discounting impacting on our margin in a face of a rise in that share meant that we were very cautious in terms of new car profitability going into next year. It might be that we had to drive revenue forward to achieve these targets in terms of BEV mix, but at reduced margin.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

I think it's fair to say that the turmoil in the market meant we were cautious, was it not, in setting forecasts for the current financial year for 2026. It assumed that the ZEV mandate would be worse or certainly a continuation of the issues. I think two months in, we've probably clearly traded ahead, but we haven't changed those forecasts, so we'd hope that they would be set on the conservative side. Okay, next one is also for you from Leo. Interest-bearing new car consignment stock has doubled as a percentage of new car stock over the last 2 years. What is the advantage of this form of financing over using your bank facilities or cash?

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

Okay, so interest-bearing consignment stock is not the only stock that the manufacturers fund. If you've got our stats, excuse me, you'll also see there's some stock invoiced not yet paid held by manufacturers to the order of the group. Where the funding, where this inventory sits, depends on the franchise. Franchise mix will play into a part of interest-bearing consignment stock. For example, Honda used consignment stocking, so the more Honda dealerships we have, the greater that number. The advantages to using manufacturer funding is that the manufacturer then sees the stock in the pipeline.

In some cases, it means that actually stock, because if you think about the likes of Ford and some others, they do invoice and on gate release. Those vehicles might not be physically present with us. They are usually visible to the dealer network. Others can actually then ask to be able to sell one of your cars.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

If you take it off manufacturer funding, fundamentally, the dealer network loses visibility, and we might sell it slower.

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

There is visibility. The advantage is visibility. Second advantage is that a lot of these, obviously, interest-bearing consignment stock, we only bring it on balance sheet when it bears interest. The other category, which is stock invoiced, might have a significantly long interest-free period as well. In some cases, we actually get a stocking credit too upfront, and that is to offset any future charges. It keeps the visibility there. It keeps the relationship with the manufacturer there. We have to do our best to manage the costs when those cars become interest-bearing. Yes, we can use in some cases the strength of our balance sheet to buy up stock in order to avoid interest charges where we think it is advantageous.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

We do try our best to negotiate the best finance rates with the manufacturers as well, do we not, to try and keep a limit on that. Okay, the next question, I think, is for me. From Leo, how do your traditional OEM partners feel about multi-franchising, especially sharing sites with new Chinese entrants? Are there more restrictions where their finance arm has provided a mortgage? The first point I will deal with is the second point.

The answer is there are no linkages whatsoever between manufacturers providing us with mortgage finance and what we can use those dealerships for. In fact, a lot of the mortgage finance we have got from manufacturer partners, which are 20-year mortgages, are on completely different franchises than that manufacturer provides. That is not relevant. The first part of the question is actually a very good question. How do your traditional OEM partners feel about multi-franchising? Let us deal with that one first. There are rules around multi-franchising. For example, I did have a manufacturer write to me to say they needed separate toilets today because they did not want to have the customers going through a door into another showroom to go to the toilet. There are definitive rules around that.

However, I think manufacturers over the last few years have absolutely recognized that with the increasing costs in the U.K. and the pressure on margins, particularly around new vehicles and ZEV mandate, that actually multi-franchising helps them maintain the economics of a network. I think there is a balance there, but broadly, manufacturers are positive, some more positive than others. Sharing with new Chinese entrants, clearly that is a point of some debate. Some people are more keen on sharing than others. It is pertinent. Certainly, a lot of rules around separation, etc., etc. It is a very good question. It is one that we have to weave our way through because the traditional manufacturers are clearly, in some cases, and in most cases, in fairness, quite worried about losing share to the Chinese, which is, in my opinion, going to happen.

Okay, I like the next question. The next question is the best question I've seen in a long, long time, actually. Ben S., it's a long question, but it's a good one, so it's worth going through. Imagine a significant unforeseen disruption to industry. Let's be honest, that never happens, does it? In the next 5 years. Never happens. Never happens. Something beyond the typical cyclical changes or technological advancements. I was actually talking to an institutional shareholder earlier. I joined the industry in 2001. The shareholder asked me when we were returned, if ever, to normal. I've said this industry has never been normal.

In 2001, in my first institutional presentation as Finance Director of Reg Vardy, we were discussing a catastrophic decline in profitability in the new car department due to a buyer's strike because of differential new car pricing between Europe and Treasure Island or Britain. There has always been a number of different things going on. The question says, what is the single most critical capability or cultural trait within this organization that you believe will allow you not just to survive, but potentially thrive in that new landscape? How are you actively fostering that capability or trait, which is a damn good question? The first thing I would say, because it is multi-layered, is we have a very, very experienced team. Now, the executive team have been at the helm of the group for 19 years and had automotive experience prior to that.

I think that should give investors some comfort that hopefully we know what we're doing. I think that is absolutely paramount. I would then go on to say that our operational directors and indeed our general managers are well seasoned. This is not a business or a sector that has had 40 years of stability and has suddenly been sideswiped by change. There have always been change. If you think back, it's had the Japanese arrive, the Koreans arrive. It's had global financial crises. It's had COVID. It's had supply constraints due to Ukrainian factories getting bombed. It's had Brexit. I mean, there's been quite a lot going on, actually. We're quite used to having to think about change. I think the word culture is in the question, and I think that's useful.

We do have a culture of keeping very close to what's actually going on at the coalface as opposed to trying to run everything from Gateshead. I spend most of my life traveling around dealerships. We have an operational director meeting once a week at half eight on a Friday morning for two hours, which keeps us all very close to what's going on and allows us to make sure we're quite agile in terms of how we go to market, which I think is important. We fundamentally believe, I think, in the tenets of stoic philosophy, which is there is absolutely no point getting stressed by things that either have not happened yet or have happened, but you've got no control over. It is a pointless exercise. I mean, Benjamin Franklin, a favorite quote, wasn't it?

Around, you know, I've had many problems in my life, and some of them have even happened. I think that's quite pertinent. You can worry about a lot of things, but most things don't happen. We have got quite good at thinking, right, this has happened. Now, what do we do next? When clearly the ZEV mandate came in, and you might think this is ridiculous, but I actually asked all our seasoned operators to watch Rogue Heroes SAS because I quite like the way that there were, you know, every obstacle was overcome, and there was always a way of finding a way. Even in the worst circumstances, the idea was to find the right opportunity from there. Hopefully that gives you a bit of a feel of how we think about that.

It is a very good question and one that goes to the heart of how we try and run the group, which is, you know, what is the next best thing to do from here? There is no point getting upset when things do not go quite as we planned because they largely never do.

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

I wrote down three words: experience, execution, and energy.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

Yes.

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

Okay.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

Okay, the next one, I think, is for me. BYD have said they aim to become the number one U.K. car brand within three years, and have opened at least three new sites this week. Cannibalization of sales from European OEMs seems inevitable, as does pressure to introduce tariffs. How can you balance the risks of being under or overexposed to BYD? I would open it out a little bit more. It is not just BYD, it is generally to Chinese electric vehicle manufacturers.

I think your question probably almost answers itself, which is there is no right or wrong way here in terms of you've got to make a judgment. You're quite right. At the moment, we've got 10% tariffs with regards to Chinese. At some point, that could be 50. At some point, that could be 100. There is a question of balance, I think, and judgment. BYD is growing at a fast rate. It is clearly taking market share, as you say, from European OEMs. Do I personally believe they will be number one car brand within 3 years? I think it's probably unlikely, actually. Will they be a significant manufacturer in the U.K.? I think in the absence of tariffs or some other geopolitical event, I think it's quite likely. Have we got a close relationship with BYD? Yes.

Are they a manufacturer producing excellent cars at affordable prices that will take share in the U.K.? Yes. It is a question of judgment as to whether we're going to be under or overexposed. And we will only know in hindsight, I suspect. Right. You own a considerable amount of real estate, GBP 330 million worth, to be precise. What is the estate proportion of the reported NAV? You can work that out, can't you? Because, you know, GBP 330 million is well over 100% of the net assets, tangible net assets. Are there any plans to reduce debt by way of estate sales, or is the company comfortable maintaining assets? I think there's two aspects to this. There's the operational property answer, and there's the finance answer. From an operational property answer, I think motor retailers are best run from freehold dealerships.

Because if you need to make a change, and let's be fair, we're in a period of transformation and change, it's far easier to sell a freehold than it is to get rid of a leased premises. I think there's good operational reasons. In my opinion, the best, most successful automotive retailers of the past 40 years were Arne Clark, still probably the best, massive real property portfolio. Reg Vardy, massive real property portfolio, which was subsequently sold and leased back by Pendragon, not to good effect. CD Bramall, great property portfolio. Again, sold and leased back by Pendragon. I think the sale and lease back prop co-op co-strategy is fraught with danger. I personally wouldn't support a use of that to pay back debt. Our gearing is 19%. I don't necessarily see that as something we need. Any comments, Karen?

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

Actually, we've clearly a significant portion of our debt is actually long-term mortgage money secured by that property. So actually, I'm quite comfortable, and we've got the assets, and we can raise the money.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

I think we'd say, though, if a property isn't delivering a return on capital employed in excess of weighted average cost of capital, then we should sell it. Yes. Right. Okay. Next one's on pay later. The next one's on pay later. So the average value of fast sales invoices under the umbrella of the pay later scheme seems to be much higher than otherwise. What has led to Vertu's decision to start making loans to customers itself? This marks a deviation from the core business and involves a degree of credit risk. What is being done to mitigate the credit risk? I would just say relax.

The reason why the average value of after-sales invoices under the umbrella of pay later is in excess of the average invoice value generally is because we do not fund somebody who comes in for a service for, say, GBP 300. That cannot be funded on pay later. Pay later is where, you know, somebody comes in, it is a GBP 250 service, there is GBP 300 of brakes, discs, and pads. Then that whole amount can be funded over three months interest-free. This has, and actually, most of the industry does that through an external third party where they then pay a percentage of the invoice to the third party. The decision for bringing it in was we realized that there are a lot of negatives about doing it at third party. There is a profit margin you are losing.

We think we have developed a system that is better from a technological point of view that does actually measure the credit risk in advance of doing it. Our history is we've had a very, very low default rate, I mean, literally zero. We are able to offer that service to our dealerships at a lower % of the invoice value, which means they're more likely to use it. The benefits of using it are we convert more work we've identified into sales, which is probably our highest margin revenue stream. This is what is helping to drive the whole area of service and after-sales. Obviously, it benefits parts as well, because you sell the service work, you get the parts through. Is it a deviation from our core business because it involves a degree of credit risk?

No, we have credit risk in other areas of our business. Trade parts would be a good example. Fleet. We are used to running credit risk. Clearly, our job is to make sure that we do not expose the business to daft risk. This exposes the business to a credit risk, which looks like it is almost non-existent and effectively drives our highest margin revenue stream.

Karen Anderson
CFO, Vertu Motors plc

We do have controls in place. The lending amount versus the value of the vehicle, for example, those sorts of things. There are controls around it.

Robert Forrester
CEO, Vertu Motors plc

Yeah. So far, so good. I think you have done GBP 18 million or something, have you? Yeah. Something like that so far. It seems we were.

Actually, it is so important, this strategy of pay later, that I take the 10 worst performing dealerships and I have a call at 8:30 every Saturday morning with the worst performing 10 general managers to drive pay later. It is that important. It is an unpopular strategy at 8:30 on a Saturday morning, but it is driving performance. I think we have the end of the questions. I would like to thank you for a great set of questions. Hopefully, the answers were suitably appropriate. You are welcome for any feedback. Thank you very much for devoting your afternoon to this. I have given you five minutes of your life back. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Perfect. Robert, Karen, if I may just jump back in there and thank you very much indeed for updating investors this afternoon. Could I please ask investors not to close this session?

It will now be automatically redirected for the opportunity to provide your feedback in order that the management team can really better understand your views and expectations. This will only take a few moments to complete, but I'm sure it will be greatly valued by the company. On behalf of the management team of Vertu Motors plc, we would like to thank you for attending today's presentation. That now concludes today's session. Good afternoon to you all.

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