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Earnings Call: Q1 2016

May 6, 2016

Bastian Synagowitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, Daniel, you can start.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Hi, good afternoon, everybody. This is Daniel Fairclough from ArcelorMittal Investor Relations team. Thank you for joining us today on our conference call to discuss the first quarter 2016 results. First of all, I'd like to remind you that this call is being recorded. We will have a brief presentation from Mr. Mittal and Aditya, followed by a Q&A session. The whole call today should last about one hour. If you do want to register a question, please do press star one at any time, and we will take the questions in the order that they are received. With that, I will hand over the call to Mr. Mittal.

Lakshmi Mittal
CEO, ArcelorMittal

Thank you, Daniel. Good day to everyone, and welcome to ArcelorMittal's first quarter 2016 results call. I'm joined on this call today by Aditya Mittal, CFO and CEO of Europe, Simon Wandke, EVP Mining, Davinder Chugh, Senior EVP, CEO of Africa and the CIS, Jim Baske, EVP and CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, and Genuino Christino, VP and Head of Finance. Firstly, I want to make a comment on the operating environment. Clearly, the market conditions have improved since we reported full year results in early February. Rising steel prices in China have supported prices globally, and this has been further supported by the rebound in iron ore and steel scrap prices. In terms of the short-term demand outlook for our core markets, this remains positive.

Although the momentum is positive, the steel price environment remains fragile, particularly given the excess production capacity in China. The Chinese government has announced plans to tackle this excess capacity, but it will take time. ArcelorMittal will be closely monitoring the levels of imports into our core markets, and we will continue our efforts to work with governments to ensure that our world-class domestic steel assets are given the necessary protection from unfair competition. Secondly, I want to update you on our Action 2020 plan. In the U.S., we continue to focus on streamlining and optimizing our operations, building on the core strengths of each facility. In Europe, we are progressing with the transformation plan. The rationalization of duplicated resource is underway. The cluster leading plants are now established, and we are in the process of moving processes and resources away from the satellite finishing sites.

I will begin today's presentation with a brief overview of our first quarter 2016 results, followed by an update of our recent developments. I will then spend some time on the outlook for our markets before I turn the call over to Aditya. He will go through the results in greater detail and provide an update on our guidance and targets for 2016. As usual, I will start with safety. The lost time injury frequency rate in Q1 2016 improved to 0.72 times as compared to 0.83 times in fourth quarter 2015 and 0.88 times in first quarter 2015. We can see the clear progress we have made in recent years, reflecting our continued focus on this priority. As you can see, frequency rate today is over 75% lower than the level back in 2007 post-merger.

As reported during fourth quarter 2015, ArcelorMittal launched the Take Care training program, a flagship program for health and safety performance improvement in Europe. I am pleased to see benefits as we recorded lowest frequency rates in Europe during the quarter. We must continue to improve. As a company, we remain committed to the journey towards zero harm and must ensure that all levels of the organization are focused on this primary objective. Moving to the operating and financial highlights for the first quarter, as summarized on slide number four. We have reported EBITDA of $900 million for Q1 2016. As we guided at our fourth quarter results in February, our first quarter 2016 steel performance was negatively impacted by the lagged effect of steel prices falling to multi-year lows.

This impact has been partially offset by an improvement in steel shipments following the end of the destock in U.S. and Europe. Our mining business EBITDA remained stable in first quarter 2016 as cost improvement and higher realized prices offset seasonally lower shipments. We have reported a net loss of $400 million in first quarter 2016. Excluding the exceptional deferred tax charge, the adjusted net loss of $200 million for Q1 2016 compares to adjusted net loss of $400 million in fourth quarter 2015. As expected, there was a normal seasonal investment in working capital during the first quarter. Together with a negative ForEx impact of $500 million, this led to an increase in net debt to $17.3 billion. Clearly, the reported net debt at the end of first quarter does not yet reflect the proceeds from the successful capital increase or from the sale of our stake in Gestamp.

Moving on to the mining segment performance on Slide five. Mining EBITDA in first quarter 2016 remained stable as compared to fourth quarter 2015. This result was also just 14% below as of first quarter 2015. Considering the 23% drop in the iron ore reference price, this shows a significant improvement in our mining operations. Market-priced iron ore shipments declined 17% year-on-year. This reflects the revised focus on our most competitive operations. As you will remember, we closed the El Volcán mine in Mexico, and we have downsized our operations in Liberia. At the same time, though, we continue to increase production at our most competitive operation. Mines Canada production in first quarter 2016 increased by 7% year-on-year. We have continued to implement aggressive cost-cutting measures and as a result, we expect to remain on track to achieve our full year 2016 unit cash cost reduction of 10% year-on-year basis.

Importantly, these measures have enabled the mining free cash flow breakeven level to reduce to $40 per ton CFR China. Moving to Slide six and the highlight of our steel performance. During first quarter 2016, our steel-only EBITDA declined by 18.1% as compared to fourth quarter 2015. This was primarily driven by the lagged effect of lower average steel selling price, about 8.7%, which was offset in part by improved steel shipments, positive 8.8%. The standout segment was NAFTA. Improving underlying demand and an end of destocking supported a 19.2% increase in shipments. Costs also improved but were offset in part by lower steel selling price, about 10.1%. In Brazil, our performance continued to decline. EBITDA was negatively impacted by lower volumes, about 14%. Average steel selling price also declined significantly, about 16%, due to weak demand as well as tubular business following the currency devaluation in Venezuela.

In Europe, volumes improved again following the end of destocking. This impact was more than offset by the lagged effect of weak steel prices, about 6.7%. Finally, we had stable performance in ACIS division as improved steel volumes and costs were offset by weak steel prices, which were about 10.2%. Let me now address demand. The ArcelorMittal shipment-weighted global PMI has continued to remain above 50, indicating growth in demand for our steel. Our forecast for apparent steel consumption growth in our core markets of Europe and U.S. remain as they were in February. Notably though, we have again cut our forecast for Brazil. Given the ongoing recession in Brazil, the outlook for steel demand remains depressed. We now forecast a further 10%-12% drop in apparent steel consumption this year compared to our previous estimate of 6%-7% decline.

Our view of demand in China, on the other hand, has marginally improved. Since the start of the year, we have seen stronger domestic sales and acceleration of infrastructure spending supporting steel demand. Sentiment has also improved compared to our previous forecast of a modest demand contraction. We now forecast China apparent demand in 2016 to be flat relative to 2015. On Slide eight, I would like to highlight some of the key strategic progress we have made in 2016. Firstly, with the successful completion of the rights issue, we now have one of the strongest balance sheet in the industry. Secondly, we have improved our ability to convert EBITDA to free cash flow through the reduction of the cash required by the business. The company remains focused on operational excellence and the Action 2020 plan is now underway.

Shareholders have voted at the AGM this week for a new long-term incentive plan for the employees that will only pay out if the EBITDA and cash flow improvement targets are achieved. Finally, we continue to make progress on portfolio optimization. We have recently sold our U.S. Long Products division, that is Vinton and LaPlace, and addressed our non-performing steel assets. Before I move on, I would like to take a moment to update you on some progress in our global automotive franchise. At Calvert, I am pleased to report we have completed the phase of the slab yard expansion of Bay4 and minor installation for Bay5, which will increase coil production up to 4.6 million metric tons per annum. Operations are ramping up well. Our qualification package continue to increase, and utilization rates continue to move higher.

Our light-weighting products and solutions to our automotive customers continue to be recognized by our customers. This was once again reflected by the highest achievable supplier ranking by Ford, and Supplier of the Year award from GM. We remain confident that steel will remain the material of choice for automotive. ArcelorMittal will continue to invest in the development of solutions for our customers and in our industrial capability to supply these solutions. I will hand it over to Adit to discuss financial results in greater detail.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Thank you. Good afternoon, and good morning, everybody. Starting with slide 10, moving to our P&L bridge from EBITDA to adjusted net loss. I will focus on the chart in the upper half of the slide, which shows the bridge for this quarter. Depreciation charges of $652 million were lower this quarter as compared to $807 million in Q4 2015. This is primarily due to the lower depreciation base following the asset impairments booked in Q4 2015, and there is also ForEx impact. If exchange rates remain as they are, you should anticipate a full year depreciation charge of approximately $2.8 billion, lower than our previous guidance of $3 billion. Moving to loss from investments in associates, JV, and other investments. The loss for Q1 2016, shown at $5 million, excludes the $329 million gain booked on the disposal of Gestamp.

This compares to a loss of $47 million in Q4 2015. Net interest expense this quarter was higher at $332 million as compared to $312 million in Q4 2015. This was due to lower interest income. Other net financing loss in Q1 2016 of $98 million compares to the other net financing loss of $238 million for Q4 2015. Excluding the deferred tax asset charge of $676 million, the underlying taxes and non-controlling interest this quarter is a charge of $16 million. As a result, we recorded adjusted net loss in Q1 2016 of $176 million as compared to an adjusted net loss of $375 million for Q4 2015. We turn to the waterfall, taking us from EBITDA to free cash flow on slide 11. During the quarter, we had a $1.2 billion seasonal investment in operating working capital.

The third bar shows the combined impact of net financial costs, tax expenses, and other items totaling $0.4 billion. Cash outflow from operations of $0.7 billion compared with the CapEx of $586 million resulted in a negative free cash flow this quarter of $1.3 billion. If we add the CapEx amount of $586 million to financial charges of $429 million, we get to just over $1 billion. Given CapEx is slightly below guidance this quarter, it is clear that we are on course for the $4.5 billion breakeven level we guided to at the start of the year. Turning to slide 12, we show a bridge for the change in our net debt from Q4 to Q1.

The main components of the debt movement during the quarter is the negative free cash flow, $1.3 billion, driven by working capital investment of $1.2 billion. There was an M&A inflow primarily from the proceeds of the partial disposal of the company's stake in style product and proceeds from the right issue in South Africa. Dividends of $6 million were paid out to minorities, and foreign exchange and others had a negative impact of $456 million. The ForEx loss consists of $336 million, primarily due to the euro appreciation against the dollar, and $118 million mainly coming from the devaluation in Venezuela. The combined result of these movements is a net debt increase to $17.3 billion at the end of Q1 2016.

Given the effect of the sale of ArcelorMittal stake in Gestamp for approximately $1 billion, right issue proceeds, and the premium paid for early prepayment of bonds, pro forma net debt would be approximately $13.3 billion at the end of the quarter. Let me now turn to the last slide, which is on page 13. Let me provide you with an update on our guidance and targets for 2016. The company continues to expect 2016 EBITDA to be in excess of four and a half billion dollars. The impact of the improving steel spread environment is expected to be fully reflected in the results of second half 2016. At the same time, the company's cash requirements in 2016 are expected to total four and a half billion dollars.

As guided to you in February, the components of this reduction are lower CapEx spend, l ower interest expenses, no dividend in respect of the 2015 financial year, and lower cash taxes. The improving steel market conditions are likely to consume working capital this year. Our current estimate is approximately half a billion dollars. Allowing for this investment, the company still expects to be free cash flow positive in 2016. That concludes our presentation. Now we are happy to answer your questions.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thank you. If you could remind everybody, if you would like to ask a question, please do press star one on your keypad. We do have a list or a queue already. We will take the first question from Michael Shillaker at Credit Suisse, please.

Michael Shillaker
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks a lot, Daniel. My two questions, if I may. The first question, just on the guidance. I guess the guidance in the last quarter was for more than $4.5 billion at spot. If I read it correct, the cash flow breakeven plus the $500 million of working capital build, and you expect to be free cash flow positive means that the guidance has effectively moved up to at least $5 billion of EBITDA for this year. In the meantime, obviously, the spot market since then, around the world, has moved up pretty dramatically. Could you possibly give us more concrete guidance? Given you have a full year guidance, you must have a view on the second half of the year. Can you give us more concrete guidance on the second half of this year?

If you're not going to do that, can you at least give us any reason why, other than timing, which is the lag on spot and then the lag on contracts, any reason why other than timing, your full volume would not effectively ultimately see the steel price increases that we are seeing, for example, in the press and on the screen right now, so that we can just be sure that we're not missing anything in terms of the calculation. Obviously, backing out iron ore increases scrap and similar. That's the first question. The second question, I guess, is on China. Can you give us a little bit more of a view on China? Obviously the market has turned around dramatically from a pricing perspective.

As you say, I think, Mr. Mittal, that you still only expect apparent demand to be flat this year, which doesn't really seem conducive to a major almost doubling of the steel price in China and the major pickup in the iron ore price. What do you think is going on? There's obviously a lot of risk out there that this has been speculative. Can you give us a feel for what you're seeing in China or what you're feeling out of China? Also the risk of the duration, is this all going to roll over in the second half of the year? Therefore, we're going to see more exports out of China, falling export prices, et cetera. Your view on that would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Lakshmi Mittal
CEO, ArcelorMittal

Adit will answer on your guidance, and then I'll pick up this China question, Michael.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Thank you. Michael, if you remember in February, we had issued our annual guidance, which was EBITDA in excess of $4.5 billion, and more importantly, we'd be free cash flow positive. The reason why we announced this in February was we were doing a rights issue, and we wanted to demonstrate to the market that at spot prices, we would be free cash flow positive. That was the logic behind the guidance. We don't really want to be updating our guidance on a quarterly basis or providing specific guidance on how we will perform in the first half versus the second half. I think it's fair to say that your assumption on what becomes the new guidance, if there is a working capital build of $0.5 billion, is correct.

We expect to be free cash flow positive, that source of cash would come from EBITDA, not from any other place. In terms of timing of prices, I think that's the only issue. There's no other issue in the business. We are able to translate prices in the marketplace into our business. Because of the mix of semester contracts, quarterly contracts, annual contracts, as well as the time lag that is inherent in order taking and delivery of product, there is a lag in our results. The prices that we see today, the full impact of that will be in the second half, and there will be some impact in 2Q, but not entirely.

Lakshmi Mittal
CEO, ArcelorMittal

Thank you, Aditya. On China. Clearly, the outlook about China for 2016 has improved. If we see from CISA's announcement, ASC for this year, -4% to -5%. Now they are talking about 0% to 0.5%. This is also in line with our expectation. When we were in Q3, Q4 of last year, the spread was pretty low between the raw material to hot metal price. We said, even in February, that they were not sustainable. Subsequent to this, couple of things have moved. One, that Chinese government stimulus, credit relaxation, all this. Then since the prices were very low in January, February, there was a destocking, suddenly we find that the inventory levels were low. All this have led to certain restocking phase in March and the growth continued in March. Production was the highest.

All this have led to price increase in iron ore and scrap and finished goods. While prices were undershot in Q3, Q4, when the spread was $87, $85, which was very low and unsustainable, I think now at this time, our belief is that this has overshot. Means that this may be correcting itself going forward. We should not really get excited about this price increase in China, $180-$200 movement in 6-8 weeks, this is only 6-8 weeks. However, their exports are continuing.

China overcapacity is still existing, though Chinese government have announced a lot of actions from putting this into their five-year plan, announcing social fund, targeting lower CO2 emissions from the steel companies, tightening the credit given to the smaller, unviable and the smaller steel companies, and forcing states like Hebei to really shut down those capacities which were supposed to be closed. At the same time, you keep on hearing some blast furnaces, smaller private blast furnaces reopening. China will continue to be volatile, and this overshooting of the price should not be taken as sustainable. There would be some correction. Looking at the historic numbers, $150, $170 is more sustainable than $200, $220 kind of scenario. However, good news is that the price have not overshot in our core markets, where we think that these price movements will be more sustainable.

The economy is looking good. The demand, apparent steel consumption in Europe and America, we are forecasting growth of 2% this year in USA, 3% overall in ASC. This year, we have forecast 1% plus minus in Europe, and 2%-3% in USA. In NAFTA, we are saying apparent steel consumption growth 2%-3%. These markets have also been more steadier. Also there has been trade cases launched, some determined, some under investigation. All this put together, we see that there will be more steadier environment in Europe and in our core markets, while there could be some volatility in China. There could be more exports in one month and lower exports in other months. China will remain over capacity issue, and there will be some threat of dumping in some of the markets.

I see that this is the pricing environment in Europe and USA and in China. Brazil, in remaining recession, the demand is pretty low, lower by 30% comparing with 2013. Prices in flat is low in Brazil, lower than even IPP, and long is the demand is low. Political environment is very unstable, and CIS markets are spot. They will remain in the spot, and South Africa is announcing some trade actions. This is the global scenario where we are at this time in the pricing.

Michael Shillaker
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thanks. Just a quick follow-up, if I may. First of all, Mr. Mittal, does that mean a falling China and a stable to rising U.S. and Europe means that you expect a material increase in exports out of China in the second half of the year? Anti-dumping can only do so much. As we saw with Section 201 in 2002, if price differentials get to certain levels, even anti-dumping doesn't work, and especially in Europe where it's not so aggressive. Aditya, as a follow-up to your point, can you just remind us the contracts that are for negotiation in July? I guess you'd be expecting a fairly reasonable increase in the July contracts.

Is it fair to say that including the July contract increase and spot markets by Q4, the tail end of Q3 and Q4, we should see prices 100% in the P&L, ex January 1 contracts, which are yet to be renegotiated next year. Thanks.

Lakshmi Mittal
CEO, ArcelorMittal

If you look at the European price, I do not see that should affect much in Europe and our core markets. If you look at the difference in the China price and the Europe price, there is not much of a gap. Even if you look at China and the U.S., the gap is not much to warrant lot of imports from China. Trade cases are already showing some results in cold-rolled in the U.S. There will be trade case determination come sooner or later, there is an impact already in positive way in Europe and the U.S. China's overcapacity will continue to be concerning and as well as the threat of dumping is not going to go away, there will be some moderation, which I see.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Michael, in terms of your question on contracts and pricing, I think you will see the full impact in the second half for the contracts that are to be negotiated in July. There is a portion which are annual, which have already been negotiated. The impact of that, we will see in 2017. That is primarily a NAFTA phenomena. There are some annual contracts in Europe as well, whose positive impact you will see in 2017. Barring that, all the other contracts that are being negotiated from today onwards, you will see that impact in the second half.

Michael Shillaker
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Take care. Thanks a lot.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Mike. We'll take the next question, please, from Tony Rizzuto at Cowen.

Tony Rizzuto
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Thanks very much, Daniel. Good day. Thanks for taking my questions. One has been pretty much answered, the one about the guidance. I wonder, regarding the trade cases in Europe, could you bring us up to date with where they stand, including the timeline, and what are the next important dates, and when are the final determinations expected? Thank you very much.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

Hello?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Sorry, the speaker was not on.

Tony Rizzuto
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Good afternoon, Tony.

Tony Rizzuto
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Hi.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Hi. If you go through the investor presentation that we just went through, the page after my guidance actually details all the trade cases both in Europe and the U.S., and has a lot of information. Simply put, for Europe, cold-rolled duties are applicable as we speak. That was decided basically in February. Hot-rolled is to be announced in Europe, and we are expecting provisional measures post the summer of this year. The document says November, but I would expect it to be sooner than November rather than later. We have also achieved the provisional measures on rebar, and we have just launched a quarto plate case as well in Europe. Those are the major highlights in Europe. What you can see if you look at the chart, clearly Europe is behind the United States, but it's catching up slowly.

Tony Rizzuto
Analyst, Cowen and Company

Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Tony. We'll take the next question please, from Cedric at Bank of America.

Cedric Sroufe
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thanks very much. Just one question from me. The question on European and U.S. capacity. A lot of people are questioning the sustainability of the price increase we've seen in these regions, and you're talking to prices being more reasonable or sustainable in your view. Can you talk to what capacity you have idle in Europe and in the U.S. that you could ramp up in a reasonable amount of time? Also maybe your perception of what capacity there is idle in these markets with peers. I think there's a perception that there's a wave of capacity that could be turned on domestically in these markets, and I'm not so sure that that's actually a real reflection of reality. Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Okay. Cedric, thank you for your question. Good afternoon to you. In terms of Europe, we are running all of our blast furnaces. There's not much more that we can do in terms of cranking out capacity apart from running them more efficiently, which we're trying to achieve on a daily basis. I'll get Jim to answer the question in terms of North America.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

Yeah, from our capacity standpoint, we have one blast furnace that's idled right now. That's the remaining capacity that we still have available.

Cedric Sroufe
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

What is that capacity, if you could detail that?

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

It's an annual 1.5 million metric tons.

Cedric Sroufe
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

If you wanted to ramp that up, you decided that profitability supported that, how long would it take before those tons were in the market?

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

On the decision to ramp up, we can bring the blast furnace up fairly quickly, so it will depend on the actual decision date that we make.

Cedric Sroufe
Analyst, Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, perfect. Thanks very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Thanks, Cedric. We will take the next question, please, from Seth at Jefferies.

Seth Rosenfeld
Analyst, Jefferies

Good afternoon. A couple of follow-up questions on the U.S. market focused on Calvert. Can you just walk us through in a bit more detail the current ramp-up stages of the plant and try to quantify the earnings benefit you're seeing within the NAFTA operations, given the mix of equity accounts operations directly at Calvert, plus the fully consolidated slab supply part of the business? Separately for the U.S. autos market, can you just discuss a little bit how you see your market share progressing there, both for autos and I guess more broadly in the flat business, reflecting Cedric's question? Your two largest blast furnace peers have shuttered a great deal of capacity in the second half of 2015. How much market share do you think you're taking in light of their past closures?

Perhaps from the auto OEM side, are you a lot more competitive now with the perception that your balance sheet is much stronger than many of your peers? Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Okay. I'll take a stab at some of the questions. I'll get Jim to provide you with further detail. Just talking about Calvert, I'll address the accounting aspects. The joint venture earns has a variable earning within a very tight band based on capacity utilization. The rest of the earnings get transferred to ArcelorMittal through the slab supply. Whatever P&L Calvert is making beyond the earning power of the equity that the joint venture companies have invested, beyond that, the rest of the P&L responsibility rests with ArcelorMittal. That's how it flows into our EBITDA. Calvert has ramped up very well in Q1. We can see that the levels of production are much higher than what we saw in Q4. We also had the lag of the slabs. Slabs were much higher priced in Calvert.

As we were bringing down the inventory levels, we worked through all of that. We see the improved profitability. I'm going to get Jim to walk you through the specifics, what we're doing in Calvert, in terms of the investments we're making to further ramp up and improve our automotive capabilities. Look, we're not going to comment specifically on market share in the U.S. We clearly have underutilized capacities such as Calvert. That has a natural place in the market. Slowly, Calvert is achieving its natural place in the market, which I think is very usual and is to be expected. In terms of the OEMs, I don't think the differentiator is the balance sheet. The differentiator is product capability and product innovation. Clearly, we are a leader there. As you know, we have the Usibor technology. We have a significant R&D presence.

We're spending $200 million a year, we continuously develop new products every year, every quarter. We are a leader in terms of advanced high-strength steels, third-generation steels, and Calvert is the best platform for us to produce that.

Seth Rosenfeld
Analyst, Jefferies

One quick follow-up question. Can you discuss for the slab supply, obviously, there's been huge volatility in the input cost for your slabs agreement linked from ThyssenKrupp. Can you talk a little about how you're seeing the cost of slabs progressing into Q2 and when you should expect the spot price to hit your cost base at Calvert? Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Again, there's a lag on the slab as well because they are priced based on hot-rolled prices in the U.S. minus a specific delta, and then they have to be shipped, they have to be stored in inventory, they have to be processed and sold, and that's when you see the cost base hit. It's going to be a third quarter, fourth quarter phenomenon versus second quarter phenomenon.

Seth Rosenfeld
Analyst, Jefferies

Great. Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Jim, you want to say about Calvert?

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

Just some specifics on Calvert's ramp-up. The hot mill obviously is the critical facility, just from a first quarter versus fourth quarter standpoint, we've had a 22% increase in our throughput rate. We're making definitely some strides there. We use a term called work ratio. Industry-wide, that term is used. We had a 12% improvement quarter-over-quarter. From a shipment standpoint, we improved over fourth quarter by 25%, a 25% increase in shipments, which was also higher than our business plan. One of the keys to Calvert is the auto ramp-up, and our plans this year is to increase our auto shipments by 62%, and we're on plan or ahead of plan by already approving 216 out of 227 submitted automotive qualifications. All in all, the ramp-up is going far beyond plan.

Seth Rosenfeld
Analyst, Jefferies

Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks. We'll move on to the next question, please, from Rochus at Kepler.

Rochus Roeske
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, hi. Thanks for taking the question. I have a follow-up on the NAFTA space. I guess, seeing that your average realized price was down $70 per ton, the EBITDA improvement looks quite astonishing, as your crude steel production was only up 10%. Was there any other factor than the positive tailwind from Calvert, which was supporting your results? On the same token, when I look at your long product performance, it appears that now for the third consecutive quarters, your volumes are down double digit, despite the construction market still looking healthy. What is your view on the whole year in terms of long product shipments in the U.S. and for the NAFTA zone as a whole? Could you also talk a little bit more about U.S. asset optimization plan?

I guess now, as you have signed a labor contract, maybe you can talk a little bit more, what is the plans you are planning to do in terms of downstream optimization? Can you give us the updated number of savings you're expecting from there? Maybe do you have a ballpark numbers for the asset closures you have done over the last six months, including the last one in Spain, including in Trinidad? Do you have a number? What is the EBITDA effect from that most recent asset closures? That's it.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

Okay. I'll try to remember the myriad of questions there. I think you started out with-

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Calvert

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

the Calvert or overall NAFTA EBITDA. The NAFTA EBITDA, as shown in a presentation, the shipment volume was up 19% quarter-over-quarter. We also had a much-improved cost performance in quarter-over-quarter. The third issue is the Calvert issue, which I discussed before, a significantly improved performance in Calvert. The negative was the price, 10% realized price difference between the quarters. Trying to remember the question as it came under from a long standpoint.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

I can help you there, Jim. You know we had done some asset optimization in the long business. We have shut down our long business in the U.S. The shipment impact that you are seeing is a result of a scope change versus a fundamental change in our business.

Rochus Roeske
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Asset optimization plan.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

As far as the basic labor agreement in AM USA. We would not want to comment on the details of that agreement until the labor contract is ratified, out of respect for the ratification process, which is determined by the USW. We're thinking it will be three to four weeks. Throughout the process of negotiations, we have been discussing with the USW, the need for optimization of our operating footprint.

Rochus Roeske
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

All right. Thank you. Fair enough.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. We'll move to the next question, please, from Alessandro at Berenberg.

Alessandro Abate
Analyst, Berenberg

Good afternoon, everybody. Just thanks for taking my question. I actually have three. I really wouldn't like to force you to give a guidance, fully understandable. Just as an exercise on the operational leverage, if we take a look at the steel margins, the raw material cost as of today, literally a snapshot, and we try to annualize the run rate with no legacy of contract redesign, with basically no lag effect, what the EBITDA would be on an annualized basis. The second one is related to a very important deadline for the European steel industry, which is the privatization of Ilva, and the deadline for the submission of the binding bids is May 30. If you could give a bit more color, what kind of thoughts you have. Apparently, you are one of the potential bidders.

If you can give us an idea on how much weight the industrial plan might have over the potential financing or the cash outflow for an acquisition, if there is any value in it by the market. The third one is related to the current anti-dumping investigation on HRC in place. We have a significant precedent at the moment because one of the reasons for Tata Steel to decide to pull out the U.K. asset was also the significant import of steel from China, which has basically killed the market. Do you think that this precedent can actually be used instrumentally to get harsher sanction if compared to those that we're seeing preliminary level on the 12th of February? Thank you very much.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Okay. Alessandro, thank you for your question. You're a very sharp analyst. I'm sure you can figure out our snapshot of EBITDA. As a company, we have provided you with a guidance framework. I think Michael asked a question earlier, and I went through it in great detail with why the logic, what we're doing. We don't want to be mark to marketing our guidance every quarter. Suffice to say that, I would not take what we announced as guidance as a negative declaration of ArcelorMittal, but to understand and appreciate that, we have highlighted that guidance is expected to be in excess of four and a half billion. In terms of Ilva, look, we don't want to be engaging in M&A speculation either. To the extent that there is something material to report to you, we will inform our shareholders appropriately.

I would just add that we're very conscious, post the right issue and the sale of our stake in Gestamp, that we do want to have a sector leading balance sheet. Therefore, any decision to invest capital would be very prudent, and we would make sure that we would not impair the credit metrics of our balance sheet. In terms of anti-dumping HRC and plate, clearly, the European community is much more focused on ensuring there is a fair, level playing field in terms of trade. The exact determinations or the percentages of duty is actually based on the evidence you provide, and it's based on the extent that China is dumping into our markets. There's a calculation behind that. There's a lesser duty rule, that has not been changed yet, which also has an impact on the calculation.

The third is the profit margin of the steel business. The calculations, I think, are much harder to impact, the political will to do something on these cases, as well as on market economy status for China, is clearly much greater now.

Alessandro Abate
Analyst, Berenberg

Ajit, just to clarify, I was not really trying to get a revision of the guidance or EBITDA. You're just simply not even remotely really targeting this. Just really on operational leverage, there is a significant amount of other hurdles that you have to face before you can actually get a clear view on the guidance. If you really take the spot at the moment on annualized basis, clearly it's not reflecting at all on 2016. Just as an exercise on the operational leverage of ArcelorMittal, would it be possible to have an idea?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Yeah. Alessandro, I don't think we would be providing that flavor to the market. You're free to make your own report.

Alessandro Abate
Analyst, Berenberg

Okay. Thank you very much for the answer then.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Sure.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Alessandro. We'll move to the next question from Ioannis at RBC.

Ioannis Masvoulas
Analyst, RBC

Yes, thank you very much, gentlemen. Most of my questions have been answered, I would just like to clarify a couple of things. First, in terms of the annual contracts, could you give an indication on what sort of tonnage we're talking about? I think enough that you have about 5 million tons of total contract volumes, Europe about 7 million tons. How much is actually annual contracts? That would be the first question.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

A ballpark, your numbers are right. I would say Europe is approximately 8 million tons. Part of it is semester contracts, but 8 million tons is the contracted automotive volume. Plus, we have some other semester contracts to other OEMs as well.

Ioannis Masvoulas
Analyst, RBC

Okay. A couple of things again on the working capital build that you suggested, about half a billion dollars. Is it based on spot steel and iron ore pricing? What's the assumption on steel shipments year-over-year?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Steel shipments are expected to be flat year-on-year. We have not changed our guidance on that. As you see, we have not fundamentally altered our demand picture on a global basis. The core markets in which we operate, except for Brazil, remain in positive territory, and that's good news for ArcelorMittal. When you look at working capital, you have to look at Q4 versus Q4 2015 in terms of the shipment impact. Primarily what you're really comparing is December 2016 versus December 2015. In our assumption, we have assumed that base prices are higher and that the shipment level is also higher.

Ioannis Masvoulas
Analyst, RBC

Okay. Just the last question, if I can actually push you a bit on the steel demand forecast, apparent steel demand forecast for China in 2016. You are guiding to flat to down 1%, you seem to be indicating that the real demand will actually be weaker and that will be partially offset by some restock. Could you give a rough split on what you have in mind at this stage?

Lakshmi Mittal
CEO, ArcelorMittal

At this stage, what we are saying, apparent steel consumption down 0 to -0.5%, and real steel consumption down 2%. That's where we are seeing some restocking.

Ioannis Masvoulas
Analyst, RBC

Great. Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Okay. Thanks, Ioannis. We'll move to the next question, please, from Philip at ABN AMRO.

Philip Ng
Analyst, ABN AMRO

Hi, good afternoon. Philip, ABN AMRO. I have two questions. One brief one is on the working capital inflow that we saw this quarter. I was wondering if you could give a bit of an idea how much of it is due to higher prices and how much due to seasonal effects in terms of volumes. My second question is a bit more of a general question. I'm wondering if I look into the data, the imports into Europe, the Eurofer data, the February data still does not really show a relief in imports into Europe. And I'm wondering, has that picture changed in March, April? I mean, what you're hearing from the business, given the announcement of provisional measures in February.

Also I was wondering if you see any threat of steel imports increasing the remainder of the year until provisional measures on HRC are announced late in 2016. I was wondering if you could give a view on that.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Okay. In terms of working capital, in Q1, we tend to build working capital. If you looked at Q1 of last year, there was actually an even greater amount of working capital build. This is primarily seasonal. We have not yet seen the impact of higher prices in our books. Maybe there's a small impact, but nothing significant. It's primarily volume-related, inventory-related build. In terms of your second question on imports, you're absolutely right. Imports in Europe are still trending upwards. January, February was 29% higher year-on-year compared to the previous period. I can't speculate on how imports will pan out, but I think the fact that imports continue to rise in Europe demonstrate that it remains critical for the European Commission to act and ensure there is a fair, level playing field in terms of trade.

Philip Ng
Analyst, ABN AMRO

Okay. Have you had any intel on how volumes have developed in March, April? I don't know from within the business.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Sorry, can you repeat your-

Philip Ng
Analyst, ABN AMRO

Sorry. Imports. Do you have a view or any intel on how the imports have been in March, April?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

We should wait for the data.

Philip Ng
Analyst, ABN AMRO

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Philip. We'll move to the next question from Alain at Morgan Stanley.

Alain Gabriel
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Good afternoon, everyone. Just one quick question I have on your NAFTA business. Basically, in terms of the performance there, is there anything that you can replicate in Europe, for instance, or do you see anything that prevents you from replicating this performance in Europe in terms of cost optimization or product mix improvement that would explain the divergent performance Q on Q? Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Well, first of all, it would be nice to have Calvert in Europe. We don't have an asset like Calvert in Europe that exists now, but in the United States of America, and that's under ramp up. I think Europe will do better in Q2. We can see that the lag effect that we have suffered in Q1 will partially unwind in Q2. We continue to make progress in terms of our transformation program in Europe, and that is running as per plan.

Alain Gabriel
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thank you. We'll take the next question, please, from Carsten at UBS.

Carsten Riek
Analyst, UBS

Thank you very much. Most of my questions have been answered. Two questions left. The first on ACIS. With Black Sea prices right now at about $470, $475 HRC, are that also prices you realize right now and for the rest of the year?

It looks like ACIS seems to be quite exposed to steel price increases and hence margin expansion. That's the first question. The second one, I would like to also dig a little bit into NAFTA. Was there any lower cost on inventory involved in the NAFTA profitability? It just looks odd that NAFTA went up even though it had almost the same kind of conditions, lower sales prices, higher volumes like Europe, and Europe simply dived. Something I can't really reconcile here. Thank you very much.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

I think Jim has NAFTA in excruciating detail. I think the mistake everyone is making is if you look at the volume, the increase in volume in NAFTA is 20%. That's very significant. The increase in volumes in Europe is 10%. We just look at the impact of a 20% volume increase. Plus you add up Calvert ramp up, that's how the math comes out. Davinder?

Davinder Chugh
Senior EVP, CEO of Africa and the CIS, ArcelorMittal

Yes. As far as the pricing is concerned, we are all observing that the global steel prices have turned around positively since early March. Currently, steel prices are standing nearly $100 or more as compared to February, let's say. CIS, both the places in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, traditionally, we run shorter order books, and we are monitoring the price movements very closely and order books carefully also to keep the operations running stable and also to harvest these price movements to the best. As far as South Africa is concerned, we run a relatively longer order book there than the CIS units. Therefore, the lag kicks in in South Africa, and the effects will flow through a little later than CIS units. Q1 results do not reflect, therefore, as far as ACIS combined is concerned, Q1 results do not reflect the global price movements.

We expect Q2 will capture partially these impacts, and Q3 should capture most of it. That's what we are doing in ACIS.

Carsten Riek
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Carsten. We'll move to the next question, please, from Roger at JPMorgan.

Roger Bell
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thank you very much for taking my questions. Again, mostly have been answered. I just wanted to know if you could talk in general about what role you see the company taking in consolidation in the steel industry, just in general terms. Could you lay out, you mentioned that you wouldn't want to impair the credit metrics that you have, and could you lay out a little bit more? Does that mean that you would be willing to increase your net debt levels as long as you could identify an EBITDA uplift that was strong enough to sort of offset that? The second question is just on sort of CapEx expectations for 2017. Given the strength in pricing that we've seen, is there any scope to increase CapEx to sort of take advantage of the fact that you'll be generating stronger operating cash flow?

Maybe some of the stuff that you previously didn't see as being on the table might be on the table again. Thirdly, on the working capital uplift that you talked about, half a billion. Could you just give a little bit more sensitivity around that? You mentioned it was to do with the variance in price and volume between the sort of December last year versus this year. Could you give us a sensitivity if prices are 10% higher than you expect, how much more would that add to that working capital uplift? Equally, if volumes are 10% higher than you expect, how much would that add to that working capital uplift?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Okay. Thank you. In terms of consolidation, clearly, we believe consolidation is good for the global steel industry, starting with China, where we need further consolidation as well as capacity rationalization. In terms of the impact on our balance sheet, we don't expect to materially increase our net debt level. That's not the expectation that you should have. We're very focused on continuing to delever and lower our net debt levels on a going-forward basis. In terms of CapEx, the CapEx plan that we have is not impairing our ability to produce steel, compete in our markets, or develop more automotive grades. I do not personally expect a significant increase in our CapEx amounts. The thing that could change CapEx amounts would be more on the ForEx side, because we have this benefit of significantly weaker currencies in Brazil and Ukraine and Kazakhstan, South Africa.

Even the euro is much weaker than the dollar, our CapEx levels have come down. Overall, fundamentally, the focus of our business remains on maintaining our assets to a level of very high quality. We continue to invest in our automotive franchise, we do have CapEx left over to capture certain opportunities. In terms of working capital, I would suggest two points. The first is that this is a one-time buildup, clearly, this is not ongoing. To the extent that prices move up again, there may be another one, if they don't, we don't have to continue to invest in working capital. A rough sensitivity is prices plus 10% is about $250 million. Volumes of 5% is about $300 million.

Roger Bell
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

That's great. Thank you very much for that detail.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Yeah. This assumes average prices, so includes contracts and it's just not spot.

Roger Bell
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

It's $250 million and $200 million. Is that what you said?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

300 for volume.

Roger Bell
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

300. Okay. Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

5% for volume.

Roger Bell
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

All right. For a 5% move. Okay. Thank you very much.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Yeah. Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Roger. We'll take the next question, please, from Bastian at Deutsche Bank.

Bastian Synagowitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes, good afternoon, gentlemen. I've got two quick questions left. The first one is a follow-up on Calvert. How good is your visibility for rolling out volumes in the high-end automotive product segment? In other words, how much of your volumes are already covered under framework contracts, and how much capacity or spare capacity have you left to contract? I imagine that given that this is a very distinguishing plant and you're a global product leader in this product segment anyways, you should see a race among your customers to lock in volumes with you. My second question is just a housekeeping one on your financial expenses. Your guidance for interest expenses is unchanged at EUR 1.1 billion, but you obviously had bought back some debt, and we've seen quite a bit of volatility in the fixed rates.

I assume that the EUR 1.1 billion interest charges includes the premium for the debt buyback. Could you please give us an early update on what we should expect for the net interest line and also for the other financial expenses on a pro forma basis after your bond buybacks and the recent FX movements? Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Jim.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

First of all, on your Calvert questions. The automotive opportunity that we see, we're specifically targeting the Gen three advanced high-strength steels. We have two major capital improvements, one on a CAL line and another on a hot-dip galvanizing line to reach that next level of expectations from the automotive people, as well as we have recently converted one of our lines to make a press formable material there from an automotive standpoint. As I mentioned earlier, we have expectations of our auto volume ramp up, as I mentioned earlier in the call, and to continue to drive that forward.

Bastian Synagowitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Could you give us a bit of color on what percentage is already contracted of your, say, prospective capacity?

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

At this given point, from a contracted standpoint, are you saying our contracts specifically for this year, or what we see as our future automotive portfolio?

Bastian Synagowitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

What you see as your future automotive portfolio.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

As I said earlier, we have a ramp-up plan and to continue to move to a higher percentage of our mix in Calvert of the automotive market.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

I think there's some discomfort here to provide specific numbers. We don't want to provide competitive intelligence. In terms of your questions on interest expense and Forex, et cetera, we have guided for interest expense to be approximately $1.1 billion for 2016. That reflects the proceeds from the right issue as well as the sale of Gestamp. In terms of the Forex line, excluding the Forex impacts, that would be a charge for pension and other expenses of about $600 million per annum, lower than what was previously guided to, primarily because pension costs are coming down. Other costs in the system are also reducing as we bring down our global costs. The net debt impact is approximately $130 million of the debt buyback so far.

Bastian Synagowitz
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great, thanks. We'll take the next question, please, from Luke at Exane.

Luke Nelson
Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Hi, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions. Most of these have been answered. Thank you.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Thanks. No problem, Luke. We'll move on to Phil at KeyBanc, please.

Philip Gibbs
Analyst, KeyBanc

Thanks so much. Hey, I just had a question on NAFTA credit conditions, and when you look at your customers, have you had to be more selective on notably the service centers as credit conditions have tightened for a lot of the industry?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Phil, no, that's not been an issue in the business. We've not had to tighten credit conditions so far.

Philip Gibbs
Analyst, KeyBanc

Anything in Europe that's notable either?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

I think in Europe, the worst is kind of behind us. I think we saw some of that in 2014, 2015. We saw something in the tubular business. We see something in the wire business. Other than that, we're okay. We're also being on top of credit in Brazil, and more or less, we're managing through that as well.

Philip Gibbs
Analyst, KeyBanc

Okay. I just have a quick one, and I apologize if you've discussed it, but how much of your NAFTA sheet business is annually priced versus called spot or lagged spot? Thanks so much.

Jim Baske
CEO, ArcelorMittal NAFTA Flat Rolled, ArcelorMittal

If you're talking about an actual fixed annual contract, we look at about 40% in the USA and about 47%-50% in Dofasco.

Philip Gibbs
Analyst, KeyBanc

Thanks, Jim.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. I think we've got time for a couple more questions, we'll take the first, please, from Christian at Soc Gen.

Christian Georges
Analyst, Societe Generale

Oh, hi. Thank you. Indeed. Just let me think. Brazil, I was wondering, the improvement of the U.S. prices, are you able, perhaps, to leverage on this, perhaps even via slabs, like with your contract on [inaudible] to alleviate some of the difficult profitability down there? Second thing was the lesser duty rule that we're talking about. I think some of the politicians in Europe, including the French finance minister, were keen to have that rule taken out. Are you confident that this may happen, or do you think we should not bank on this too much? The last thing is, I may be wrong, but I think I understood you were saying that coal prices did not quite overshot the way steel and aluminum prices have, and you seem to be more comfortable with those.

Do you see some more upside risk on coal prices if that's what you were saying? Thank you.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

Sorry, I've not understood, Christian, your first question on the interplay between Calvert and slab purchase price.

Christian Georges
Analyst, Societe Generale

In terms of your operations in Brazil, are you able to send some tonnage of lesser quality steel into the U.S., where prices have been improving? The same way, if you want, that ThyssenKrupp is able to sell slabs onto Calvert.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

We are sending slabs, but not lesser quality steel. We are sending slabs from Tubarão as well as from our operations in Mexico and some slabs from Indiana Harbor into Calvert. We have various sources of slabs going into our operations at Calvert. In terms of the lesser duty rule, I think we're all working hard to have it removed. At this point in time, I cannot point to substantial development or progress. That still remains a work in progress. Maybe in terms of coal, I'm going to get Simon to talk about to the extent we can on coal prices.

Simon Wandke
EVP and CEO of ArcelorMittal Mining, ArcelorMittal

In terms of seaborne coking coal prices, the market's been in acceleration over the recent couple of months with regard to China consensus. We've seen the sentiment rise in Chinese spot prices, which tend to get reported, but we've also seen quarterly increase in the Japan-Korea-Taiwan price. I think the current outlook is a steady supply. Demand has slightly improved, but not dramatically. The current price up is seen to have some downside risk, in our opinion, on the seaborne side.

Christian Georges
Analyst, Societe Generale

Okay, thanks. Just on Brazil, I didn't mean less quality, I mean less processing. The question is, are you not able to increase volume out of Brazil, which normally would be serving the domestic market in order to find new volume, preferably in the U.S. or in such markets?

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

We are shipping out. In Brazil, we still run our flat finishing facility there at Tubarão at full rates. The steel that we cannot sell into Brazil, we do export. In Q1, those shipments are down, but that's primarily technical reasons. It's not a lack of a market. To the extent that Calvert continues to ramp up, there will be more and more volume that we can take from our own facilities into Calvert.

Christian Georges
Analyst, Societe Generale

Great. Thank you very much.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Great. Thanks, Christian. We'll move to the last question, please, from Patrick at Macquarie.

Patrick Mann
Analyst, Macquarie

Thanks, guys. It appears over the last few years, your realized pricing, especially in NAFTA and Europe, has outperformed benchmark pricing in this downturn. Now, I assume that relates mostly to product mix, improving the quality of advanced high-strength steels, et cetera. Is there a risk as the benchmark steel price rebounds, your outperformance ends? Is there a risk that that outperformance starts to compress, or do you feel like you'll still sustain rising premiums relative to benchmark prices? Thanks.

Aditya Mittal
CFO and CEO of ArcelorMittal Europe, ArcelorMittal

I think that's a valid question. We see in our own business that the strongest impact of the price rises occur first in the ACIS business and then in the long business, and then in the flat business in Europe and in North America. That's because the contract business tends to be sticky. It also helps us in downturns because the prices don't come down as much. Clearly, as prices move up rapidly, it takes time for that to work through the contract business. I would characterize that as more lag effects. Fundamentally, in the medium to long run, the benefit of a contract business is that you are getting more revenue per ton because you are providing franchise products.

Patrick Mann
Analyst, Macquarie

Thanks, guys.

Daniel Fairclough
Head of Investor Relations, ArcelorMittal

Thank you everyone for participating in the first quarter results call and look forward to talking to you soon. Thank you. Have a good day.