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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Jul 30, 2023

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Thank you, and welcome to our Q2 2023 review. It's been an interesting quarter. While orders received have been a little bit below what we expected, we've had a number of indications of interest, letters of intent or verbal confirmations of orders that we have not recorded because we don't record them until we actually get the purchase order. We're, we're encouraged by the development of the pipeline. You'll hear about that. The pipeline's grown significantly, and it puts us in a good position for the second half of this year. I will turn the, the conference over to Benjamin Fash, our Chief Financial Officer, who will take you through the financial update, and then we'll hear from Thomas Pokorsky about the business development and operations of the company. Ben?

Benjamin Fash
CFO, Fluence

Yes, thank you very much, Doug. Thank you to everyone for joining the call today. Please note that all the discussions regarding financial results are on an unaudited basis at this point, at this point in time. For the fiscal quarter ending June 30th, 2023, the company finished with $16.8 million in revenue, which is up 15% from Q1 of 2023. SPS revenues, in particular, were up 105% from the first quarter and 64% from Q2 of 2022. That's primarily due to the growth in our Specialized Industrial Water business, which is having a very strong year. Further, backlog ended the quarter at $52.2 million, $46.6 million of which is from SPS and recurring revenue.

New orders and recurring revenue were up 36% in the quarter, from the same period in 2022. Orders in SPS were up 35% in Q2 2023, when compared to Q1 of 2022, but down 43% from the same period in 2022. This was mainly due to, as Doug mentioned earlier, some delays in signing firm orders. However, we have received a number of verbal indications of orders, as well as letters of intent and letters of award, and therefore, we're confident that our orders are expected to increase significantly in the second half versus the first half of 2023.

Fixed costs were down $3.8 million in the first half of the year when compared to the same period in 2022, which represents a 28% reduction and reflects the successful implementation of the restructuring that was announced in Q4 of 2022. The company also generated $500,000 in EBITDA for the quarter, Q2 2023, up from a loss of $3 million in Q1 of 2023. The cash balance for the company as at June 30, 2023, was at $18.1 million, plus the company had $11.8 million in short and long-term deposits. The company generated $2.2 million of operating cash flow, and overall cash was up $2.9 million from March 31, 2023.

This is primarily due to the collection of Milestone nine of the Ivory Coast project, which we discussed on the last quarterly update. At this point in time, the company is reducing our guidance to total revenue to $90 million-$95 million, of which SPS plus recurring revenue represents $60 million-$70 million, and EBITDA up $2.5 million. As noted earlier, this is primarily due to the delay in securing orders in the first half of 2023, so primarily a timing issue, but still represents an increase of more than 10% from 2022 on an EBITDA growth basis. With that, I'd like to turn it over to our Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Pokorsky, to give an update on the business development activities and the operations of the business. Thank you.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Thank you, Ben, and thank you all for tuning in. We appreciate your interest. Earlier in the year, I told you about the restructure and that we were going to immediately start reporting on the restructure in January, which we did. We had a lot of work to do to get the restructure up and operational, and we are pleased now that we are fully operating under the new structure, and nearly every position that we set up for the structure has been filled, although there are a couple we're still in the process of filling. The good news is we have already saved $3.8 million in fixed costs for the first half of the year due to the restructure.

More importantly, for the future growth of the company, we are seeing much better collaboration across all business units, and that is exactly what the plan intended. While we did have a slow first half, mainly because of delays in orders, the pipeline, because of this collaboration, the pipeline continues to grow in all of our core markets. In addition, as Ben and Doug both pointed out, we have a number of letters of intent, verbal awards, letters of award, that we just don't have the final paperwork on, that show a large increase for our third quarter order booking potential. Despite the slower-than-expected start, we still expect strong bookings growth this year. Just a few highlights regarding what is going on. There was a lot of interest in what's happening in North America.

We have now completed the first phase of expanding the North American sales and technical support team. We have put in place, I believe, nine new high-level sales and technical people in North America across various business units, some for municipal, some for high-strength waste, and some for industrial water. Keeping in mind that the high-level technical people also are an integral part of the sales team, because our sales team is a technical sales team that needs this support to put together project designs, to put a price tag on them. In any event, the sales team in North America for high-strength waste in the biogas area, has already built a pipeline of $21 million, and we recently signed our first anaerobic digester for North America, worth over $1 million.

Additionally, we signed a new service agreement with one of the largest meat processing companies in North America, to help them scope out a large anaerobic digestion project for one of their major facilities, to create renewable natural gas, as they want to support their sustainability goals. Because of this, we are in and the intent is we are in excellent position to exclusively negotiate and deliver the full project for the customer, who, by the way, has dozens of other identical facilities that need the same kind of work. The high-strength wastewater is a bright light in our growth. We also have a number of other projects for fish processing, and we just recently booked an order for another food processing plant in, I believe, Indiana.

A few other tidbits that on how the business is, is, is moving along. We are making progress on our build-own-operate project, and we expect to sign a couple of significant BOO projects in the next quarter to end the year. A good surprise is the Specialized Industrial Water business in South America, which is already ahead of their expected order bookings. They're projected to grow even further than that. They are making real good headway in food and beverage, as well as the lithium mining space.

One of the other things they've done is they've went back and acquired a number of service contracts for some of their existing customers, several million dollars' worth, which, of course, are not revenue in one- year because they're three and five-year contracts, but that's the kind of work we want to do, is just build up these longer-term service contracts. China is still slow, but Southeast Asia is growing, and we've already. I think I may have mentioned this earlier in the year, we already have a much bigger pipeline in the rest of Southeast Asia than in China by itself. China is starting to slowly come back.

Overall, Fluence is expecting to book $70 million-$80 million worth of orders in the second half of 2023, which would be a great increase of probably more than 300%, over half one of 2023 and half two of 2022. The aircraft carrier turns slowly, and we just put in motion the new operations, and these orders take a while to come in, but we are highly confident we are gonna succeed and have much better growth in the future. With that, I will turn it over for questions of.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Thanks, Tom. We have a few questions about the Ivory Coast O&M contract, about when we would expect that to be awarded.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Okay, I can handle that. The Ivory Coast O&M contract is currently in the final stages of quotation. The next step in that project is for the team putting the cost together to come to me for a final approval. Then I will go to the board for approval to provide a firm contracted price. The intent is, by the customer, is to attempt to get an operating contract in place by year-end. We are going to finish that job. The plant will start running by the end of the year. At this point, they don't have anybody to run it. That's, that's the reason for attempting to get the contract in place by year-end.

We do have at least one other major competitor trying for it, and we are trying to make sure the scope of the work and the pricing, is not only competitive, but appealing from a standpoint of process to the owner. We expect to have that bid in within the next 30 to 45 days.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Okay, thanks, Tom. There was also another question regarding Ivory Coast: Has global inflation impacted our margins on that project?

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

No, not I mean, actually, they did a very good job of buying all the equipment within the budget. We did have a small contingency in the contract, which the inflation did burn through, but we still have a little left, and we are virtually done buying things. We are into just labor, finishing the job, and most of all the labor that's being done on it now is under a fixed price contract to us, so we do not expect any deterioration on the margin on that job.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Okay. There was a question about, if the order book is looking strong, why are we lowering guidance for the year?

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Well, I, I, I think the real simple answer to that is, once we get an order, it many times takes at least a year to build it and re- and obtain all the revenue on it. These are, these are projects that have to go through a design phase and then production of equipment, and only then do we start getting revenue. Some of the revenue, the, the final 10 or 20% of the revenue is not realized until it's installed, and that could be a year out. We just. Yeah, we look at schedules anywhere from six to 15 to 20 months once we get an order. As we delay first half orders into second half, it pushes revenue in the first half of 2024.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Right. I'd point out that with, even with percentage completion accounting, to the extent an order gets delayed, it reduces the number of months in this year that we can recognize revenue, which will reduce.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Exactly

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

revenue that we recognize.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Exactly.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

Right.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Right. Exactly.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

I think the final question, because there's a number of questions, is, is related to, whether we're planning to raise capital soon. I can report that we have no specific plans to raise capital at this point. I would point out that our cash balance actually went up in Q2. We are obviously always considering, the benefits or the possibility of raising additional capital, but at this point, we have no specific plans to do so. I think that pretty much covers the questions that have been submitted. We had one question on how NIROBOX sales are going in the Middle East.

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

Actually, they're, they're starting to pick up, believe it or not. The NIROBOX, we just. We're working on a number of them. We are waiting for three orders out of Egypt on NIROBOXes and one big one out of Saudi Arabia. In addition, we have a. If you count Israel, Mid East, I guess we do, we have a number of big NIROBOX projects under letter of intent from South Africa into our Israeli operation. They're, they're, they're not tearing up the world, but they're, they're strong.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

One final question: Is the $3.8 million reduction in fixed costs in one half, in the first half, or is that an annualized number?

Thomas Pokorsky
CEO and Managing Director, Fluence

I'll let Ben define the details on that.

Benjamin Fash
CFO, Fluence

Yes, Our fixed costs were lower by $3.8 million in the first half. That is not an annualized number.

Douglas Brown
Chairman of the Board, Fluence

That's great. Yeah. Okay, well, at this point, I would like to thank everybody for, participating, and we appreciate the support and interest you have in Fluence. Thank you very much.

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