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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

Oct 19, 2023

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Lynas Quarterly Results Webcast Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one, one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To offshore your question, please press star one, one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand over to Lynas. Please go ahead.

Jennifer Parker
VP Corporate Affairs, Lynas Rare Earths

Good morning, and Welcome to the Lynas Rare Earths Investor Briefing for the September Quarter of 2023. Today's briefing will be presented by Amanda Lacaze, CEO and Managing Director. Joining Amanda are Gaudenz Sturzenegger, CFO, Pol Le Roux, Chief Operating Officer , and Daniel Havas, VP, Strategy and Investor Relations. I'll now hand over to Amanda. Please go ahead, Amanda.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Jen. Good morning to everybody. Thank you again for joining us. Well, we have had another busy quarter, which means that we have a jam-packed quarterly report. To start with, I would just like to highlight what for us is really fabulous news, which is that at Kalgoorlie, all areas which are required for production, construction, and commissioning is now complete, and we have "switched the kiln on." It's not quite switching it on. It's not like turning on the light when you walk into the room. This is a major milestone, and I know that everybody on the team is really very excited that we're there. We now have to go through a heat-up cycle, and this will be followed with first production.

We're just going to take just a moment to enjoy that, but I think the team is already very, very much engaged in the next steps. Moving on and just looking a little at the quarterly results. We had slightly lower production in the first quarter of FY 2024 compared to the final two quarters of FY 2023. That really reflected the fact that we had to do some planned and preventive maintenance on the cracking and leaching facility in Kuantan, maintenance which we had delayed in the previous quarter. The results of just over 1,500 t is still very good when we calculate it back to a daily production basis, taking out the lower equipment availability for the days that we were unable to operate the kilns because we were conducting maintenance.

As I've indicated in the quarterly report, for the first time actually, in the time that I've been in Lynas, we did not sell every gram we produced. Not because we didn't have enough demand, but as we've explained in the report, we are still managing for potentially different scenarios over the next six months, which may include a variation in our license conditions in Malaysia, and certainly recognizing that any ramp-up of a plant of the size and complexity of Kalgoorlie is inherently unpredictable. We have held some NdPr inventory within our own warehouses, and we also have NdPr inventory sitting with our distributor to ensure that we will be able to provide supply continuity for our key customers.

In addition, we have actually held some SEG inventory as well, which we're holding for purely commercial reasons. As we see the price continuing to strengthen, it's been sensible to hold some of that back. The other very big news which we've included in this quarterly report, is the fact that we have now decided that we will go ahead with our upgrade to LAMP downstream operations. As we've explained in the report, we need this additional capacity in solvent extraction and product finishing under either of the two key scenarios that we're considering.

If there is a revision to our license conditions in Malaysia, then certainly we want the downstream plant in Malaysia to be able to process both material, which is processed in the cracking and leaching facility in Malaysia and also the mixed rare earth carbonate that Malaysia will receive from the Kalgoorlie facility. If not, as we indicated last quarter, we now are able to produce up to 9,000 t a year once we reach nameplate capacity at Kalgoorlie. T herefore, we need to increase our downstream in Malaysia. This first stage, where we'll be making changes to two of our NdPr separation trains in solvent extraction will take us to the 10,500 t, which has always been our FY 2025, you know, our Lynas 2025 target.

The process that we'll be doing that is completely innovative and is something of which we're very proud, because it's an in-house development. As we look at this, we are conservative as to production in the third quarter because we expect that solvent extraction circuits will have to equilibrate, come back into balance, and before we're able to achieve the significant uplift in production for which they'll be designed. In addition, we will be putting some extra equipment into product finishing once again, which will enhance efficiency, continuous precipitation circuits, and some new furnaces in that area. They'll take a little longer, but we will be able to take advantage even with our current PF configuration once we have the SX circuits stable and producing.

The decision to make these changes in the downstream area, as said, they're needed on any scenario. We're pretty excited to be doing them, but they will affect this quarter and next. I think we've spoken for some time and foreshadowed the fact that this financial year is an adjustment year, to ensure that we are in the strongest possible position as the market returns to what we hope will be better settings in the near future. The Mt Weld project continues on track. We're very close to the end of stage one. This is a logical time for us to review stage two scoping costs, ensure that we've actually engineered this to give us the best possible efficiencies as we move forward.

Our stage two estimate is slightly up on, you know, sort of the original estimate, but well within the sorts of variations you would expect at this stage of the project. Of course, during the quarter, and you know, we've spoken to you previously about this when we released the annual results, we finalized the heavy rare earth contract with the U.S. Department of Defense. We're pretty excited about it. It's an expenditure-based contract under which all of our properly allocable construction costs will be reimbursed. The team is champing at the bit to move forward on this. We've had our U.S.-based engineering partners in Kuantan for an extended period of time, working with our in-house engineers to ensure that we're able to move forward with that project on the most efficient basis possible.

Of course, in Malaysia, we continue to engage with the Malaysian government and the regulators on the conditions associated with our license and indeed, also continue to pursue all of our rights under Malaysian law. We think that this is important as a parallel path to the much preferred pathway of actually reaching a better outcome with the regulators and the government. As I said, a jam-packed quarter and a jam-packed quarterly report. Very exciting times for us.

Everybody in the business has been, you know, sort of holding their breath as we wait for Kalgoorlie to come on, and a smooth ramp-up is now our target. A smooth and rapid ramp-up is now our target. Also in Malaysia, it's very exciting to see us be able to do some of the upgrades we're talking about there. With that, I know there's always loads and loads and loads of questions, so I'll leave us with 50 minutes through to the end of the call so that I can take as many questions as possible.

Operator

Thank you, Amanda. I will now conduct the Q&A session. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one, one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one, one again. Please stand by as we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Paul Young from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah. M orning, Amanda. I hope you're well. You have a bit going on in this quarterly as you highlighted. I guess the first question I have is around Kalgoorlie, and just the timing on the commissioning. I guess if you step back, we are probably four to five months late now on this project to hitting the kiln. A s you point out, Amanda, we're hoping for a smooth and rapid ramp-up, but unfortunately, those things rarely happen. If I look at potentially the ramp-up of Kal and trying to produce enough rare earth carbonate to feed LAMP, if it does restart post the upgrade in the June quarter next year, that doesn't seem to be a lot of time for the ramp-up. That's only effectively four months.

I guess the question then is, t his seems again like a stretch target and m aybe one point is that, you know, really what we're after is some realistic and achievable guidance on the ramp-up and you know, to 9,000 t and to 12,000 t. I'm just still struggling to see how we achieve the ramp-up in time to restart an expanded LAMP to achieve 750 t per month.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Paul. As always, a very critical approach. As you would have noted, you know, we have aligned these two ramp-up phases. This means that, you know, we are actually giving ourselves, yes, potentially a quarter of pain, but it's one quarter. It's not, you know, sort of stringing it out over a period of time. We will be limited even downstream in Malaysia, on the amount that we're able to produce. We see that as, you know, that's one of the reasons why we've timed this in the way that we have, because if we have, you know, even a modest ramp-up trajectory, then you know, we think that these will be more closely aligned than they might otherwise be. On the other hand, you know, we very, very possibly will have cracking and leaching in Malaysia operating, in which case, this will be moot.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thanks, Amanda. On LAMP, you're good to see the extra detail on the expansion of LAMP to the 10,500 t per annum. Can you just step through just on that? Is it really just the expansion of the, y ou said the product finishing, but you're also expanding the solvent extraction? I think you've previously said it's quite capital- light. Can you maybe just provide another estimate, if you can, of what CapEx is involved in?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

The capital is included in our financial report for the year-end. We gave guidance on capital cash costs this year. It is included within there, so there's no additional cost over and above what we've already provided.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, that's great. Last one, Amanda, just on the U.S. refinery. Still targeting first production FY 2026. Good to hear that the engineering team, U.S. team, has been in Malaysia , et c, to still work through the feed and everything else. When do you need to start construction, do you believe, to be able to achieve that FY 2026 target?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Paul, [audio distortion] to call you back with that date. We're expecting it will be within this financial year.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, so w ithin FY 2024, sort of two-year construction timeframe?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

All right. Thanks, Amanda. I'm still working through a bit of detail here. I might join the queue, and I'll pass it on.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Thank you. Just a moment for our next question, please. Next, we have Chen Jiang from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Chen Jiang
Analyst, Bank of America

Good morning, Amanda. Two questions from me, please. In the release, it mentioned planned shutdown from Malaysia in December quarter, as well as March quarter NdPr separation upgrade. Would you please provide some color on your rare earth oxide production and NdPr? Is that fair to assume your inventory will draw down in the upcoming two quarters, despite minimum production from the shutdown and the separation upgrade? W e won't see a big decline in sales despite minimum production? I have another one after this. Thank you.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Chen. Yes, we will see some smoothing because as I said, you know, we've built some of that inventory. The primary reason for that is not smoothing of the revenue, but it is in fact, to ensure that we maintain reliable supply to our key customers. We have provided, you know, sort of an outline. We will have the LAMP shut down from mid-November. You know, I think it's reasonably easy for most of you in your models to be able to backfold for that.

You know, we've provided a conservative estimate of somewhere around about 300 t a month for the first quarter of next calendar year, followed up by, we would expect our first step up in production to occur in the final quarter of this financial year, when we'll be able to go up to about, you know, 750 t a month. T hen finally we'll move up in the following financial year to our target rates in Malaysia.

Chen Jiang
Analyst, Bank of America

Right. Thanks for that, Amanda. A second question, just a follow-up, please. B y looking at Kalgoorlie design, the capacity, 9,000 t per annum equivalent NdPr, and then the separation facility is 10.5. I'm just wondering, are we still on track to achieve the 12,000 t of NdPr equivalent in your Lynas 2025 plan?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yes.

Chen Jiang
Analyst, Bank of America

W e are less than 18 months away, I guess.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah, [audio distortion]. I understand that this can be a little bit tricky, but because we've got a number of production phases, you know, we're not a simple miner with just one beneficiation plant. We have a number of different production phases, and so our investment decisions are to do the most efficient upgrade in each of those at any particular time. Mt Weld, we are upgrading to 12,000 t per annum because that is the logical next step from where we are today. When we look at then, our cracking and leaching capacity, Kalgoorlie will take us to 9,000 t. If we have the variation to our license in Malaysia, in fact, we will have excess capacity well and truly over the 12,000 t in that cracking and leaching stage.

The next logical step with solvent extraction is to go to the 10,500 t. Once we've done that, stabilized, then we can consider taking the LAMP facility up the next step as well. Yes, we have slightly different uplifts in capacity as we go through, but we believe we will be able to get all of these aligned to meet our strategic goal of the 12,000 t in 2025.

Chen Jiang
Analyst, Bank of America

Right. Thanks for that, Amanda. Maybe last question, please. In the release, it mentioned during the shutdown, the Malaysia cracking and leaching staff will be deployed to Australia, to assist with the startup process in Kalgoorlie. I'm just wondering, what does that mean? Like, do you allocate the whole team to Australia to assist Kalgoorlie during the shutdown?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Not the full team, but key members of the team. We already have, about 2,000 of our Malaysian people are actually working, and some have been working for quite an extended period of time in Kalgoorlie. You know, we are really fortunate. Anyone else who was proposing to start up a rare earth processing plant will not have access to the sorts of skills that we have. W hen we think about, how do we de-risk the ramp-up phase, bringing in people and because we retain our people, we've actually got on-site in Kalgoorlie, the same team that commenced the heat-up cycle for the kilns in Malaysia a decade ago. You know, we have this enormous amount of own IP in this area.

We've got those who have already been working with us, as said, some have been actually in Australia for over a year, others for several months. When we shut down, we will have a number of our operational leaders from the cracking and leaching facility in Malaysia, as well as additional technicians who will come to Australia and who will assist in both the ramp-up, but also ensuring that our new workforce in Kalgoorlie is trained. Over the last six months, all those that we have recruited into Kalgoorlie have also been to Malaysia, so they can actually see and experience and learn from the fact that we already have a facility operating.

Chen Jiang
Analyst, Bank of America

Right, t hat's clear. Good to see you have skilled staff from Malaysia to Kalgoorlie help with the ramp-up. Thanks, Amanda. Thank you [audio distortion].

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Just a moment for our next question, please. Next, we have Daniel Morgan from Barrenjoey. Please go ahead.

Daniel Morgan
Analyst, Barrenjoey

Hi, Amanda and team. First question is, you've given some quantified guidance on best-case scenarios for the March and June quarters next year. Should I read this as assuming a positive Malaysian policy change scenario? Under an adverse scenario, i.e., you don't get a positive outcome and you're reliant just on Kalgoorlie, I imagine you would expect production to be below these levels. Is that fair?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

I think that the famous statement about there are the things that we know that we know, there are the things that we know that we don't know, and then there are the things that we don't know that we don't know, does really apply when you're talking about, you know, sort of ramping up a complex plant. What we do know is that it will take time to ramp up the plant. I think that you can see from this that, you know, we're sort of modest in, you know, so what we're talking about, is the potential production in the first quarter of next year.

We would love to overshoot that if we do indeed have, you know, sort of the variation to the license conditions in Malaysia. Y ou know, even with the very, very, you know, sort of best knowledge that we've got, modeling the various different, you know, sort of McNulty curves and experience based on Malaysia, it is difficult to give you any more precise guidance than what we've already provided in the report.

Daniel Morgan
Analyst, Barrenjoey

Okay, understand. Separate question, Malaysia, t here was a lot of news in Malaysia in the past couple of months about a new rare earth strategy. How do you read this as a company? You know, is this an opportunity for you? Is this a softening of the government's stance potentially towards cracking and leaching in the country?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

I think that we all are very pleased that the Malaysian government has recognized the rare earths industry as an engine for growth in the Malaysian economy. I think that there is absolutely a recognition that Malaysia is a step ahead of just about anywhere else, because Lynas operates in Malaysia and the Malaysian government has articulated a desire to both develop their upstream and their downstream, at upstream actually, they say upstream, midstream, and downstream capability in country. We see that all as very positive.

Daniel Morgan
Analyst, Barrenjoey

On the separate parallel process, which is the court process, the High Court process, if you are successful in getting a stay, is there any expectation on how long a process can take? I mean, I'm not familiar with the court process in Malaysia. You know, can it happen in days and weeks, which I imagine would be a bad outcome for an adverse ruling? I f it's a protracted process and you have a stay, then well, you could have a less disruptive time in the first half of 2024, is what I'm thinking.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Y es. Just like I would never suppose to be able to predict what governments might do or on what timeline they might do it, I would be even more averse to predicting what courts might do and the timeline on which they would do it. Yes, you are right. You know, the stay, we think is an important strategy, and we think that, you know, we have a strong argument for why this should be allowed to occur as the matters are considered in front of the court.

Daniel Morgan
Analyst, Barrenjoey

Thank you very much, Amanda.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Daniel.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Austin Yun from Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Morning, Amanda and the team. Just two questions from me, please. The first one is to extend a question from Daniel. Just would like to understand, given the comment from the Malaysian government, what would be kind of a potential path from now on? Would you expect the government to start provide additional funding or tax breaks to encourage the development of the industry there? Or would you expect to see a tighter control from the government because they really, you know, get an interest in this part of the operation? Just wondering, what are you hearing on the ground?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

[audio distortion]. Thank you.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah. T hanks, Austin. I think based upon their public commentary right now, that we would expect tighter control, y ou would have noted that, you know, the government and the regulators understand the value of the ionic clay deposits, in particular in Malaysia, and that reflects sort of a geological formation which is common across Southeast Asia. One of the announcements from the government was that they intended to ban export of raw material, so in its raw mined form. We would see that as being very positive, because you know, we actually know how to separate mixed rare earth carbonate, whether it comes from ionic clay or whether it comes from some other source.

We would see that as being very positive. I think that this government's intention is to ensure that this is a key focus area for economic growth. Malaysia still has an automotive industry, and has aspirations to have a larger and more vigorous automotive industry. Malaysia seeks to be a leader in terms of, you know, sort of green energy and the energy transition, and there is a very clear understanding amongst policymakers of the importance of rare earths materials as part of driving those industries. I think there will probably be more rather than less control, and I think it will be done for the purposes of facilitating industry development in Malaysia.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Great. Thank you. Second one is on the sales volumes for the rest of the year. Do you have any minimal commitment to your customers in terms of, you know, NdPr and other various products for the December and the March quarter? Thanks.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Our commitment to our customers is that we won't disrupt their production by not being able to provide continuity of supply. We have a number of strategic customers, many of whom we have been supplying now for, yeah, eight or nine years. We know what their forecast is, and we're managing our inventory to be able to meet that forecast.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Yeah, okay. Thank you. Sorry, if I can just squeeze in one last question.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Sure.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Just on your production capacity expansion to 12,500 t NdPr, how should we think about the CapEx for this additional 2,000 t of capacity?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

10,500 is the step that we're going to in Malaysia. The costs associated with, we call it the LAMP industrial plan, are already included in the CapEx indication that we provided with the annual report [audio distortion].

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Yes, understood that. Just wondering for the next step, after the 10.5, you still have a 2,000 t of gap, right? Try to understand the CapEx intensity for the last leg of the expansion. If there's any clarity you can provide.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

We expect it will still be relatively low capital intensity because as I said, what we've done is that , in this first step, we're making certain changes to two of our NdPr separation trains. We have four. When we go the next step, it will be changing the other two of our separation trains.

Austin Yun
Analyst, Macquarie

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next, we have Al Harvey from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Yeah. Morning, Amanda. Just a very simple one to start. Just wanted to double check the ramp-up next year, the tons per month. Is that quoted in total rare earth oxide or specifically NdPr oxide?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

NdPr, Al.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great, thank you. Then secondly, just, I guess you've indicated that there has been some continued drilling out of Mt Weld. Just wanting to understand when we market the resource update, and if it will include the rare [audio distortion].

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Oh, you'll get it as soon as we have finished all of the test work. We're all sitting on the edge of our chairs waiting to be able to bring that forward. You know, we've done a lot of drilling, as you can see from the report. We've done drilling both within the current Life of Mine, where we've done a lot of additional drilling to understand, you know, distribution of elements, it's not just grade, but also to understand grade. Of course, we have the carbonatite drilling program as well. There is a lot of work being done on this. Our team of geos are absolutely flat out, but I can't give you a specific time on that, but w e're working on it.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thanks, Amanda. Maybe just one last one. You mentioned the Malaysian i onic clays. Note that they don't require cracking and leaching. Has there been any discussions on utilizing your solvent extraction, and product finishing for local Malaysian ores? Maybe use that as a source of feed there at LAMP.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Sure.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Sure, there has been discussions?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Sure. Yeah. I mean, if you've got a resource and you want to value- add to it, you've got someone who knows how to do it. You know, I mean, there's a whole complex of matters associated with how we may or may not feed the LAMP facility, including whether we're able to operate it in the way that it was designed and on the basis on which we made the investment. Yes, we have discussions about these various matters. We have no further update to provide on the license at this time, but I can assure you, you will all be the first to know once we know it.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Yeah, sure. I guess I'm just thinking then, if there's, you know, potential that, you know, that could be used as feed, does that potentially give the Malaysian government, you know, a little bit of a reason to put off overturning the cracking and leaching ban if, you know, you could process their local material with your downstream?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Well, it just could do, couldn't it, Al? Yeah. Clearly, as I go back, I'd say, you know, we see it as very positive that the Malaysian government sees the opportunity for development of a rare earths industry in Malaysia, both using their upstream capability and further developing downstream capability. We, of course, have been very active in promoting the value of having the only, you know, proven operating rare earths separation plant in Malaysia. We have been very active in promoting that to the Malaysian government, and the benefits that could accrue to the Malaysian economy.

Y ou know, we continue to operate, we continue to meet all of the regulatory conditions, and we continue to be of the view that the decisions should be made, which are good for the Malaysian economy and which are also good for, you know, Malaysian industry operations, recognizing that we are, you know, compliant with all regulation, and we run a safe operation. Yes, we have advocated very strongly for the benefit of having the Lynas plant operating in the way that it was designed to operate.

Al Harvey
Analyst, JPMorgan

Sure. Thanks, Amanda. I really appreciate it.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Al.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question. Just a moment, please. Next, we have Dim Ariyasinghe from UBS. Please go ahead.

Dim Ariyasinghe
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. Thanks, Amanda and team for the report. Just one quick question from me. On the inventory, obviously, most of it is being managed to accommodate for potential disruption in the next couple of quarters. You know, you do make note that you're also withholding some of the SEG stocks in anticipation of higher prices. Can you maybe talk about, you know, what sort of quantum in price you'd need to see before you kind of deliver back into that market?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Hi, Dim. Yeah, look, I think that we're seeing a significant strengthening in that market, you know, sort of already. You know, I guess we don't have a singular number where we'll say we'll do something about it, because, you know, the way that we sell our SEG is such that we need to have confidence in, you know, both the demand and the price. I would suppose that if market trends continue the way that they are now, that we will start to unwind some of that inventory over the next, you know, two quarters.

Dim Ariyasinghe
Analyst, UBS

Yeah. Awesome, c ool. Then one other, just noting that a lot of the questions on modeling have been answered. Excuse me if this is a bit amateur, but in terms of disclosure going forward now, we're going to be probably a bit quiet until next year. Notwithstanding, but there'll be a lot happening with Kalgoorlie and with Malaysia. Like, so you know, will we be getting updates when we get the first MREC from Kalgoorlie? Or is it a case of no news is good news, potentially? Apologies, y eah.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Oh, don't apologize. We're delighted that people want to know, you know, sort of the detail of the way things are moving forward. I think that as we look at this, you know, we know that we're only a month out from our AGM. We usually like to provide a fulsome, you know, sort of update on what's going on at that time. It's not quite as long until sort of a next, you know, sort of normalized update would occur. We will certainly disclose anything which is material, you know, as and when it occurs. Don't worry that we won't talk to you until, you know, sort of late January. I mean, at a minimum, you know, the AGM becomes a sort of a next point at which we would certainly provide an update.

Dim Ariyasinghe
Analyst, UBS

Yep, c ool. Okay, tha nk you.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Dim.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Regan Burrows from Bell Potter. Please go ahead.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

Thank you. Good morning, Amanda and team. Just a couple of questions from me. Firstly, just the impact of the shutdowns in November on the solvent extraction and product finishing plant in Malaysia. Just sort of interested in the quantum of that. Is it sort of, I guess, similar production levels to this quarter, or are we sort of guiding to potentially considerably lower?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Basically, we're shut down from mid-November, so we're shut down for half the quarter.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

Okay, so that would be a complete shutdown through to the end of the quarter?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

Okay, cool. I guess just as a follow-up on that, you've obviously been stockpiling material for a couple of quarters now. Just interested, I guess, in terms of a runway or how many quarters you can sort of sustain, say, current sales levels going forward, because we don't really have a breakdown of what's NdPr, what's SEG?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

No, and i t may not surprise you. No, i t may not surprise you that no, I'm not going to give you that on a ton-by-ton basis today either.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

No, that's fine.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Suffice to say that, as I said, y ou know, as we've indicated across now a number of months, we've had detailed scenario planning. Those scenarios have ranged from, you know, a very slow ramp up at Kalgoorlie, through to what we would hope would be more the trajectory. They have included both, you know, that we get a variation to our license that continues to operate in Malaysia, or we don't get a variation to our license in Malaysia. Y ou know, we're managing to that, to ensure that if we do have a very low production quarter in the March quarter of this financial year, that we will be able to sustain supply to our customers.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

Okay. It will take you through to March sort of time frame. Just I guess a final one sort of confirming, I guess, Dan's comments earlier, just on the sort of second half ramp-up scenario that you've provided in those 300 t per month, stepping up to 750 in sort of next financial year. Just confirming that that assumes no overturn in the operating license?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Yeah, t hose are our solvent extraction. That's actually the solvent extraction capacity that we're indicating there. Indeed, it may be better than that. It depends upon, you know, how long it takes for the changes in solvent extraction to, you know, stabilize. I t's lower production for the March quarter, but then higher in the June quarter. We will see some increase towards the back part of this financial year.

Regan Burrows
Analyst, Bell Potter Securities

Okay. Thanks for that. I'll leave it there.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Regan. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Just a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one, one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Next, we have Paul Young from Goldman Sachs. Please, Paul.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Oh, hi, Amanda.Y ep, it's Paul Young again. Just to clarify, Amanda, the June quarter of next year, the 750 t per month target, which equates to 9,000 t per annum of NdPr. That's the nameplate of Kalgoorlie. If it ramps up by then, then you can, in theory, feed 9,000 t to LAMP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mt Weld can do about 7,000 t at the moment. It's obviously, the throughput there and production's all based on the head grade, and you've obviously got the environmental approvals for a set amount of ore throughput, right? You can flex the head grade and therefore the concentrate production.

I don't think Mt Weld can do more than about seven, and correct me if I'm wrong. If you're going to achieve the 750 t per month or 9,000 t of NdPr annualized from the June quarter, is that reliant on maybe what you might have alluded to earlier to a question around potentially, you know, feeding in some of those ionic clays in Malaysia into the plant?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

No. Mt Weld actually has proven itself, particularly over the last year, to be able to do a bit better than 7,000 t a year. Because as we indicated in the full year report, we've been able to not only feed Malaysia at essentially a 7,000 t equivalent, but also build inventory for feedstock for Kalgoorlie. Yeah, I mean, it's always a case of sort of managing each stage to optimize. You know, we're very pleased with Mt Weld performance at this time, and we think that we've got some headroom to be able to pick up. Second thing is that with the expansion project, the current bottleneck at Mt Weld is in fact in our dewatering circuit.

The first thing that we will be bringing online with the expansion is the new dewatering circuit, which is substantially upsized from what we have currently. We have previously indicated that Mt Weld, it's 7,000 t today and it's 12,000 t tomorrow, but that we will have a couple of steps in there as we bring the equipment online. Of course, this is the benefit of being on a brownfield site. Releasing the constraint in the dewatering circuit will give us a step up. We're fairly confident about our ability to match these tonnages through the process.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yeah, okay. That's great, Amanda. J ust to confirm, that means that potentially you could run the December half of next year, depending on the production settings in Mt Weld and performance, but you could potentially produce 9,000 t per annum, a run rate of 9,000 t per annum in the December half of next year?

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Potentially.

Paul Young
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, v ery interesting. Thank you for that.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

Thank you. I see no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back to Amanda for closing remarks. Thank you, Amanda.

Amanda Lacaze
Managing Director & CEO, Lynas Rare Earths

Thanks very much. Look, once again, thanks, everybody, for joining us this morning. I wish I could reflect and say, gee, we've had a really busy quarter and now we'll just coast into Christmas, but actually we're looking at another really busy quarter ahead. Certainly, we'll keep you informed as we continue to develop the business.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating.

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