Sigma Healthcare Limited (ASX:SIG)
Australia flag Australia · Delayed Price · Currency is AUD
2.850
-0.040 (-1.38%)
May 8, 2026, 4:18 PM AEST
← View all transcripts

EGM 2025

Jan 29, 2025

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Welcome, everyone. I am Michael Sammells, and as Chairman of the Board of Sigma Healthcare Limited, I would like to welcome you to today's extraordinary general meeting, including those joining us online in this hybrid meeting. It is now past 2:00 P.M., the appointed time for the meeting, and I am advised that the necessary quorum is present. I therefore formally declare the extraordinary general meeting of Sigma Healthcare open. I wish to begin by acknowledging the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation, the traditional custodians of the land on where we are gathered today. We pay our respects to their elders, past, present, and emerging.

Sigma's proud history spans over 100 years, and our evolution has led us to the point of today's meeting to vote on necessary resolutions to support the merger with the Chemist Warehouse Group that will significantly transform our business and create the foundation for decades ahead. Voting in today's meeting will be conducted by a poll, and I now declare the poll open on today's items of business. All polls remain open until the conclusion of today's meeting. As we move through the items of business, I will respond to questions from shareholders and their representatives or proxy holders. As this is a hybrid meeting, we will provide opportunities for questions from those in the room and online. For those participating online, the instructions on how to ask a question are detailed in the online guide, which was provided to shareholders and is on the website.

Before we proceed, I would like to introduce the members of the Sigma board and management who are present on stage today. Starting from your left, Annette Carey, Neville Mitchell, Kate Spargo, Chris Roberts, Vikesh Ramsunder, our Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, and Kara McGowan, who is our General Counsel and Company Secretary. We are also joined by our Senior Executive Team, who will be available to chat with shareholders at the conclusion of the meeting. In addition, we are joined by representatives from our shared registrar, Link Market Services, as well as Andrea De Cian from Grant Thornton, who is available to respond to any specific questions in relation to the independent expert report. I would also like to welcome Mario Verrocchi, Jack Gance, Damien Gance, and Danielle Di Pilla, who are the four Chemist Warehouse nominees proposed to join the Sigma board.

I'd also like to acknowledge the presence of Sam Gance, one of the founders of Chemist Warehouse, who is with us today. Before we move on to the formal resolutions for the meeting, I would like to cover a few matters relating to the proposed merger of Sigma and Chemist Warehouse by way of scheme of arrangement and the process that we have been through over the last 18 months to reach this point. Further information on the merger and formal resolutions is included in the notice of meeting, which was lodged with the ASX by Sigma on the 18th of December 2024. As I outlined at the start, shareholders are voting on what is the biggest transformational opportunity in the history of Sigma.

It is also enormously transformational for the Chemist Warehouse Group, which, as a privately owned company, has achieved consistently strong growth for decades from a business model that has captured the hearts and minds of consumers. Clearly, related party transactions are a material part of the Chemist Warehouse business. Our focus has been on ensuring these transactions are well understood and governed, as we acknowledge they are a feature of the Chemist Warehouse business. We had experts complete due diligence. We have put in place strong future governance structures and processes to cover existing and potential arrangements, and we included transparent disclosures in our publicly released documents. We also commissioned an independent expert's report to consider whether the regime is fair and reasonable. I will cover this more shortly.

On the 11th of December 2023, we announced to shareholders the merger proposal to be completed by way of scheme of arrangement for consideration of AUD 700 million cash, subject to any leakage adjustments, plus Sigma shares. Post-implementation, on a fully diluted basis, the Chemist Warehouse shareholders will hold approximately 85.75% of the merge group, and Sigma shareholders will hold approximately 14.25%. The proposal was subject to several conditions precedent, including ACCC and shareholder approval. In the event that Sigma shareholders approve various resolutions today, the scheme is approved by Chemist Warehouse shareholders at their meeting this evening, and the parties satisfy the condition precedent in the merger implementation agreement, we will create a full-service wholesaler, distributor, and retail pharmacy franchisor.

While this model already exists in Australia and internationally, it has the potential to accelerate our strategic direction by bringing together two complementary businesses with complementary core strengths and expertise to enhance our service offering to customers. Sigma has world-class distribution infrastructure and capability that is delivering best-in-class service to pharmacies across Australia every day. Chemist Warehouse has unparalleled pharmacy franchise and marketing know-how and expertise, which will also help elevate our support for our Amcal and Discount Drug Stores franchisees. Given the nature and value creation of the proposed transaction, Sigma directors unanimously recommend that shareholders vote in favor of the resolutions. The advantages of the proposed merger are many and varied, with the potential to create significant value for Sigma shareholders, which is already evident in the share price accretion since announcement.

The proposed merger will create a leading Australian retail pharmacy franchisor and a full-time full-line pharmaceutical wholesaler and distributor with a wide range of growth opportunities, both within Australia and internationally. And the complementary nature of both businesses creates a unique opportunity to extract significant cost synergies from bringing the businesses together. Management estimates put the potential cost synergies at AUD 60 million per year that could be realized by the fourth year post-implementation. One-off costs to extract the enduring benefits is estimated at AUD 75 million. While the merits of the proposal are clear, it is worth noting that if for any reason the proposal does not proceed, the trading price of Sigma shares may fall in the near term. And finally, we acknowledge the extent of related party transactions that currently exist, which are part of the Chemist Warehouse business and its evolution.

I believe we have introduced a robust solution to govern and manage related party transactions moving forward. Importantly for shareholders, Grant Thornton, who we appointed as the independent expert to review certain of these transactions, has concluded that the existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings, which required shareholder approval, are fair and reasonable to non-associated Sigma shareholders. I will speak more about this shortly. If the merger proceeds, Sigma and Chemist Warehouse have agreed on the composition of our proposed board. Today, we are seeking your approval for the election onto the Sigma board of Mr. Jack Gance, Mr. Mario Verrocchi, Mr. Damien Gance, and Ms. Danielle Di Pilla. They will join existing board members, being myself as Chairman, Vikesh Ramsunder, who will be CEO and Managing Director of the merged group, Dr. Chris Roberts, Annette Carey, and Neville Mitchell.

Kara McGowan will continue as Company Secretary and General Counsel. From my perspective, I am confident that we have a strong board with the requisite mix of skills and expertise from both the Sigma and Chemist Warehouse sides of the business. Having said that, we are also conscious that the composition of the board does not meet the diversity and inclusion ratios or the independence ratios expected of an ASX-listed company, and this is something that we as a new board will seek to address over time. The one change from Sigma's existing board is the retirement of Kate Spargo following implementation of the transaction. Kate has been a director of Sigma for more than nine years and was chair of the Nomination and Remuneration Committee.

Kate has been a highly valued member of the board, and I want to thank Kate for her significant contributions to the board and Sigma more broadly. As part of the preparation for the merger, the Board Committee composition has also been established, which is outlined on this slide. I think the committee construct and membership provides a good governance framework and mix of skills for our board. Due to competition legal constraints, noting the two businesses currently operate separately and compete with each other, the proposed new board has not yet been able to meet as a collective and consider certain matters. This includes specific matters as to future business and corporate structure, longer-term strategy, short-term growth opportunities, some governance matters, and detailed transition planning. These, among other things, will all be a matter of priority after we officially merge.

Importantly for shareholders, in recognition of the importance of governance over related party transactions, we have established a new Independent Board C ommittee for the anticipated types of related party transactions, which I will personally chair with Annette and Neville as members. I will provide more detail on this shortly. We have also established a new Risk, Compliance and Sustainability Committee, which Chris Roberts will chair. Post-implementation, Chris, who was originally a HMC nominee director to Sigma, will be considered an independent director as HMC's shareholding will be below 1% of the merged group. Sigma will also continue to have an Audit Committee and Nomination and Remuneration Committee consistent with the current structure. With that background, I will now move on to the formal business of the meeting. Firstly, I will briefly outline the procedures for today's meeting.

Those attending in person will have received an admittance card at the time of registration. Yellow cards were issued to shareholders and proxy holders entitled to vote and ask questions. Blue cards are for those shareholders entitled to ask questions but not to vote. Red cards have been issued to visitors who are not entitled to speak or vote at the meeting. Those attending virtually may vote and ask questions online. I encourage you to review the online platform guide available on your screen. If you are participating virtually and did not submit a question before the meeting, you will be able to submit questions at any time during the meeting by registering as a shareholder or proxy holder and selecting the Ask a Question tab or by asking your question over the phone.

I will request questions from attendees in the room first, followed by the phone and online questions. If you would like to ask a question in the room, please approach the microphone at the appropriate time and display your yellow or blue attendance card. When I call for questions, please state your name and organization you represent, and please keep questions courteous and concise. Questions may be merged if we receive multiple questions on one topic. If you are present in person, you will have a yellow voting card, which you will be asked to complete and hand to the registry staff at the appropriate time. I will advise you when it's time to complete your voting card. If you need assistance, please ask one of the registry staff. To cast your vote using the online platform, please click the Get a Voting Card button and follow the prompts.

You may cast your live vote at any time during the meeting. I will give you a five-minute warning before we close the online voting platform. You will see a red bar appear along the top of the online platform with a countdown timer of how long you have remaining to cast your vote. Proxy votes received prior to the meeting will be shown on the screen for each item of business to be voted on today. Resolutions one, two, three, nine, 10, and 11 are subject to voting exclusions as outlined in the notice of meeting. To ensure the views of shareholders are considered, a poll will be conducted on all resolutions. Before we move on to the formalities, I thank those shareholders who submitted questions in advance of the meeting, which I will now address.

One question related to whether we will face any problems adhering to the agreement with the ACCC. The ACCC engagement process was very extensive, and as part of that, Sigma provided certain undertakings covering, among other things, the protection of data, the ability for franchise brands' customers to exit, and Sigma committing to remain a CSO wholesaler. Since the undertakings were announced, a significant amount of work has already been completed to develop protocols and practices to help us meet the commitments assuming the merger is completed. We also received a question regarding what the name of the listed company will be and what happens to your existing shares. On the name, there is no current intention to change this. The listed entity will remain as Sigma Healthcare. In respect of your shares in Sigma, there is no change to your holding.

If you have 100 shares in Sigma today, you will have 100 shares in Sigma post-merger. What we will be doing is issuing new shares to the shareholders in Chemist Warehouse as part of the merger implementation. The other question received related to lease liabilities and our future policy position on financial leverage. As we remain separate companies today, we have not yet been able to consider many future policy decisions for the merged group. This will be a matter for the new board once the merger is approved by shareholders. I will now move on to the formalities. We have 11 resolutions for shareholders to vote on today, which are listed on the screen and in the notice of meeting.

The first two resolutions relate to the merger more generally, recognizing that there will be a change in the scale and operations of the current business of Sigma, and should the merger proceed, new Sigma shares will be issued as part of the consideration for Chemist Warehouse shareholders under the scheme of arrangement. Resolution three is in relation to the existing related party arrangements and proposed future related party dealings. This is a detailed regime with underlying categories of activities to be approved by Sigma shareholders. The parties have worked constructively to ensure there is a robust governance framework in place to support the related party transactions that currently exist in the Chemist Warehouse business and those related party transactions that are likely to arise.

Importantly, the Sigma independent expert's report comments on the fairness and reasonableness of the existing related party arrangements and the future related party dealings to the non-associated Sigma shareholders. The Sigma independent expert has determined that these are both fair and reasonable to the non-associated Sigma shareholders. Resolution four is a requested approval in relation to the provision of financial assistance under Section 260B(2) of the Corporations Act. The next five resolutions relate to the new board construct, including the proposed appointment of the four Chemist Warehouse directors and the increase in the director fee pool size in recognition of the greater number of directors on the board and significant increase in the size and complexity of the Sigma business. The final two resolutions relate to remuneration matters for an existing long-term equity scheme currently on foot that the board has recommended vest and be exercised because of the merger.

We will discuss each resolution in more detail at the relevant time. I will be voting those proxies left to my discretion as the chair in favor of all resolutions. Resolution one, which appears on the screen and in the notice of meeting, seeks Sigma shareholder approval to change the nature and scale of Sigma's activities as required and for the purposes of Listing Rule 11.1.2. This change will occur because of the transaction. Significant detail was provided in the notice of meeting. Resolution one is an ordinary resolution and, if passed, will take effect on and from implementation occurring. Are there any questions from the room in relation to this resolution? If so, could you please move to the microphone?

Operator

Hi, Chair. We have a question from Stephen Mayne.

Hi, Chair. When are you proposing to disclose the proxy position today?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

The proxy position today will be disclosed post the scheme meeting once we have the results this evening.

Right, because best practice is normally to disclose them with the formal addresses before the meeting or, if not, before the debate so that shareholders can have an informed discussion if there have been any protest votes. So have there been any material votes against any of the board's recommendations today?

I'm not aware of that at this stage, Mr. Mayne, but we'll be posting the results in the format required by the ASX Listing Rules.

All right. Just my last question on this one. In terms of significant changes operationally going forward, for me, rebranding Amcal Pharmacies at scale to Chemist Warehouse is probably the most obvious sort of operational change. Are there any constraints about doing that in terms of agreements with the Amcal franchisees, for instance?

Effectively, what you're observing is a change in the scale of our business by putting the businesses of Sigma and Chemist Warehouse together under the same roof line. We see a place for both Chemist Warehouse and the Amcal and DDS brands to coexist under that roof line. And so I think that the change is in the size and scale of the business, and there's nothing else that prevents us from walking down this path that I'm aware of.

If there's the Chemist Warehouse right near an Amcal, there are no constraints on us rebranding the Amcal or closing it down in terms of the franchise agreements at those Amcal Pharmacies in particular?

What I would say is that we support the Chemist Warehouse model, which is a bigger franchise model. We equally support the Amcal and DDS model, which is a smaller footprint model. Typically, the size of the real estate's a lot smaller. We've also walked through a very detailed process with the ACCC that's made themselves comfortable over any competition issues that may have been considered on the way through.

Thank you.

Do we have any other questions from the floor? Operator, are there any questions over the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you. Gary, are there any online written questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No questions online.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you, Gary. I will now put up on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. We now come to Resolution two, which seeks the required Sigma shareholder approval for the proposed issue of new Sigma shares under the transaction for the purposes of Listing Rule 7.1. As outlined earlier and set out in the notice of meeting, this resolution is to approve the ability for Sigma to issue the number of Sigma shares that results in Chemist Warehouse shareholders in aggregate owning approximately 85.75% of Sigma on implementation of the transaction. Resolution two is an ordinary resolution, and if passed, will take effect on and from implementation occurring. Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

Okay. Thanks, Chair. So this is effectively going to be the largest placement in ASX history. So AUD 25-AUD 26 billion worth of shares being placed. I just want you to clarify, once this all's gone through, so we'll have a full placement capacity going forward for the 15% over the following 12 months. So based on the current share price, we'd be able to do a placement of AUD 4-AUD 4.5 billion worth of shares at the 15% of AUD 31 billion. So is that correct? That this clears us and we get full placement capacity going forward, having approved this AUD 25 billion placement effectively?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Theoretically, yes, if we needed to do so.

All right. So I was going to encourage you to consider using that capacity going forward because I think one of the big issues is going to be 36% of the company not constrained from selling. A lot of potential selling in a quite chaotic manner. And I think if you were to do a placement, you could also facilitate some sell-downs as part of that placement. And then with the placement proceeds, you could also get involved in buybacks, which would be another way of facilitating that unprecedented, enormous potential sell-down that we're going to see from the non-constrained 36% holders of the company, the 308 of them.

So I just encourage you to consider using the placement capacity, raising some capital at the best possible price, offering retailers share purchase plan as well on the same terms, and then being active in things like buybacks to facilitate that very large transition from franchisee owner shareholders to index funds and public company investors.

Thank you, Mr. Mayne. I will note that. One of the things I will have to point out that the unique nature of the merger of Sigma and Chemist Warehouse and the board is just the fact that this board hasn't been able to meet for legal constraints to contemplate anything, those matters including future capital needs and capital structure. So I hear what you say, and the new board will contemplate a whole range of matters, including future capital need and capital structure. Are there any other questions from the room? Are there any phone questions at all?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Gary, are there any online written questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

Yeah, one question, which is along a similar line. So do you think the business is well capitalized for future growth?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

I think what we have is a business that is financially very strong and secure. I can't answer the future growth question because, quite frankly, we've provided a significant body of information about the Chemist Warehouse business today, the Sigma business as well. And as for what the future looks like and capital needs, will be a matter for the business on a go-forward basis post-implementation. Any other questions at all, Gary?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No further questions.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you. I will now put on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. We now come to Resolution number three on the notice of meeting in respect of the existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings. Shareholder approval of this resolution is a condition precedent for the transaction to proceed and is an important feature of this transaction. Given the critical nature of this, I want to take some time to explain to you the process we've been through and provide an overview of the governance practices we have put in place. Importantly, the independent expert has concluded that the existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings are fair and reasonable to non-associated Sigma shareholders.

The Related Party Governance Framework has been developed to establish a clear operating model moving forward to manage and govern existing and future related party transactions. The key components of the Related Party Governance Framework include, firstly, the establishment of an Independent Board Committee to oversee these related party arrangements going forward. I will personally chair the IBC and will be joined by Annette and Neville, who are both independent non-executive directors. And secondly, the establishment of a Related Party Working Group consisting of independent senior management of Sigma to manage the ongoing related party arrangements on a day-to-day basis.

At or before the sixth AGM of Sigma shareholders, it is expected that shareholders will be asked to reapprove the ability for Sigma to enter into future related party dealings provided they are consistent with the Related Party Governance Framework or another framework under which related party arrangements may be entered into, renewed, or amended without requiring further Sigma shareholder approval and future related party dealings under it. At this time, another independent expert report will be provided. To guide the decision-making processes, the Sigma board, the IBC, and the working group are bound to consider the following three principles as set out and agreed in the Related Party Manual. Firstly, that a future related party dealing must be in the best interest of Sigma shareholders as a whole.

Secondly, that a related party dealing must be on terms that would be reasonable in the circumstances if Sigma and the related party were dealing at arm's length or less favorable to the related party. And thirdly, without limiting principle two, a future related party dealing must be substantially on the same terms as an equivalent arrangement with a third party who is not a related party or on terms more favorable overall to Sigma. Equally important for shareholders, the Sigma-appointed independent expert report assesses the construct of the Related Party Governance Framework that has been established and considered it to be effectively designed and strike an appropriate balance between prescribed requirements in relation to commercial factors and guidelines to govern the spirit and substance.

The full independent expert's report is contained within the notice of meeting, and Andrea De Cian from Grant Thornton is available today to respond to any specific questions relating to this matter. Hopefully, that overview and the significant amount of detail included within the notice of meeting demonstrates the strong governance overlay that both Sigma and Chemist Warehouse have implemented to address this matter. Before we move to questions, I just reinforce that Resolution three is a single resolution which covers all existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings of all the related parties. The existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings each include different categories of related party arrangements, each comprising a number of arrangements.

As a consequence, if Resolution three is passed, it will constitute shareholder approval for the purposes of Listing Rule 10.1 in respect of all existing related party arrangements and future related party dealings of all the related parties. Are there any questions for myself or the independent expert in relation to this matter? Firstly, anyone from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

Chair, was ASX or ASIC more influential in proposing this course today? Which of those two were the most influential? Because it's a good outcome. I'm just curious as to which was most influential in being here.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Our team has dealt with both, and both are comfortable.

Okay. I'm wondering if the committee members can just briefly provide any history they've previously had in managing large-scale related party transactions?

I will speak on behalf of the committee. The short answer is not of this magnitude. It's rare and it's unusual. But the approach we have taken to related party transactions all the way through is the fact that this is the very foundation of the Chemist Warehouse business has grown up through this. The dealings are material. We've had a range of presentations from Chemist Warehouse representatives direct to the Sigma board. We've had an expert team conduct due diligence. We've had an independent expert report. So our approach has been to make sure we understand the nature of the related party dealings. And having understood that, what we've put in place is an appropriate set of governance such that the conflicted parties aren't part of the decision-making process.

So given the experience of the independent directors on the board, I'm not sure it's necessary to have deep experience in this matter before because it's quite a routine governance matter, but the scale of it is different, if that makes sense.

Now, obviously, the AUD 32 million in rent being paid to the two founding families for access to properties they own is a big one. Just wondering if you can undertake to actually improve the disclosure on that in the next annual report and actually list the relevant properties. Don't just provide an overarching financial disclosure, but actually detail these particular Chemist Warehouse outlets and even the terms, ideally. Because, I mean, AUD 32 million is a large number, and there's not a lot of visibility as to which particular properties are involved in those material related party transactions.

Okay. What I'd say to you is certainly the Independent Board Committee will be all over this as a subject matter, but the nature of future disclosures is an issue for a board that has not met yet, so the board will have a look at that and arrange thines is an issue for a board that has not met yet, so the board will have a look at that and arrangs.

And just a final question. I appreciate that it's difficult with the board not having met yet. But do you personally have any particular related party transactions that you, just having looked at it without having met with the rest of the directors, that you'd personally like to see managed away over time? I'll give you my one suggestion. The one area I'd like you to seek to not do anymore is for founders or insiders to have equity positions in suppliers. I think in terms of the trust of suppliers and people feeling that there's fair dealings, you're at such a scale now that I think entering into new supply arrangements where Mr.

Verrocchi or one of the Gance family has got 10%, and I just think that's going to be very untidy, and it's not going to be worth the upside given the scale of a AUD 31 billion business. So I'd encourage you, as chair of the Related Party Committee, to try and manage those supplier equity related party transactions away as best you can over the period ahead.

I hear the question, and I thank you for it. We will keep that in mind. I don't have a view about what is right and what is wrong. We've really taken the approach of understanding what exists and putting a strong governance framework around anything that might come our way in the future to make sure that any such arrangements remain in the best interest of all shareholders, not just the related parties, and I have no doubt that the related parties have the same view. Are there any questions from the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you. Gary, any questions online?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No questions online.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you. I will now put on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. Resolution four seeks approval of the Sigma shareholders pursuant to section 260B(2) of the Corporations Act for financial assistance, which is to be provided by some or all of the Chemist Warehouse group members as part of their integration into the merged group's financing arrangements. This is a detailed resolution which appears on your screen and in the notice of meeting, and approval is sought by special resolution which requires at least 75% of votes that are cast on the resolution to be in favor of the resolution. If passed, the proposed resolution will take effect on and from implementation occurring. Are there any questions from the room? There are no questions from the room on this.

Are there any questions on the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Gary, are there any online questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No questions online.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you, Gary. I will now put on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. The next four resolutions relate to the appointment of new directors to the Sigma board. Each resolution is an ordinary resolution, and if passed, will take effect on and from implementation occurring. The background and experience of each nominated director was set out in the notice of meeting, and as Chair of Sigma, I think each proposed director will bring significant experience and skills that will be valuable to our business and to shareholders. These proposed appointments will help form the board for the merged group. As I outlined earlier, we are conscious of the need to address diversity and independence, which we will seek to evolve and refine over time.

Resolution five seeks approval for the election of Mr. Jack Gance as a Sigma director with effect from implementation of the transaction. Jack has extensive pharmacy and retail experience. He's a qualified pharmacist who opened his first pharmacy in Reservoir, Victoria, with Sam Gance in 1972. In 1997, Jack, Sam, and Mario Verrocchi established the My Chemist brand, and in 2000, co-founded Chemist Warehouse. Jack is currently chair of Chemist Warehouse Group. All Sigma directors have voted in favor of the resolution. I now move that Jack Gance be elected as a director of the company. Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

So, Chair, best practice normally when candidates for election is that they'll do a brief stump speech. I'll encourage Jack and the other candidates to embrace that concept on the fly if that's not too much to ask. And I've got a question. Obviously, candidates should answer questions. So first question for Jack is, why has he chosen to go for the non-exec position as opposed to an exec director position, given that the other three nominees are all taking exec roles? And why was it Jack, who was the nominee of his generation of the family, as opposed to Sam?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

The first thing I'd say, normally, in a normal circumstance, Mr. Mayne, directors would probably already be on the stage seeking either their first election or a re-election. The Chemist Warehouse gentlemen aren't actually officers of Sigma until this transaction completes, hence they won't be talking today. In terms of the board composition, as a general answer to your question, the composition and roles of the board were effectively the outcome of a negotiation with Chemist Warehouse. I would invite you to accept the arrangements that are proposed. And I think the skills and experience of all four individuals of the board is obviously very self-evident, given the amazing business that they have founded and created. You'll get plenty of opportunity at future AGMs to ask questions direct to all directors on the assumption that this transaction completes, but not today.

Okay. All right, so we won't be hearing from any of the candidates. Could you comment as to whether the four nominees that they put up today, that was simply their proposal, or did you negotiate, for instance, that it couldn't be four executive directors because four executive directors is a lot with the CW, and five would be a majority? So was that a negotiation, and did you have any input into the personnel they were proposing, or was that entirely at their discretion, and you simply had to accept who they were putting up?

I would say to you that the size of the board and the composition of the board between independent and non-independent directors was an agreed negotiation. The membership of the board from either side was a decision for both of those boards.

Okay, and I was really pleased to see that three founders locked themselves up for 90% of their combined 48% holding until August 2026, but I was a bit curious why Damien wasn't caught or wasn't included in that. Is there any explanation? He's an executive director, son of a founder. Why wouldn't you include Damien's holding as well in that broader Gance family commitment not to sell?

I think given the quantum of the shareholding of the founding directors, what's been escrowed, one demonstrates their absolute commitment to the merged company, and I think that was more than sufficient.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are there any more questions from the room? Are there any questions from the phone?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No questions online.

Operator

There are no questions on the phone at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Cool.

I'll now put on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support in this resolution, and I welcome Jack to the board. Resolution five seeks approval for the election of Mr. Mario Verrocchi as a Sigma director with effect from implementation of the transaction. Mario is a qualified pharmacist who joined Jack and Sam's pharmacy group in 1982. Mario, Jack, and Sam jointly established the My Chemist brand in 1997 and subsequently created Chemist Warehouse in 2000. Mario is currently Chief Executive Officer of Chemist Warehouse. All Sigma directors have voted in favor of the resolution. I now move that Mario Verrocchi be elected as a director of the company. Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

I know Mario's probably determined not to speak, but I was wondering if he could maybe give us a nod. Is it okay if Sigma shareholders attend tonight's Chemist Warehouse meeting at the Olympic Hotel in Preston at 6:00 P.M., just as they are today as non-speaking observers?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

I'm not going to ask.

I'm actually looking for a nod from the candidates.

No, I'm not asking Mario to nod or do anything. It's not a subject matter for me. If you would like to ask that question at the conclusion of this meeting to various people, you're entitled to do so.

Okay. All right. Now, I'd like to hear from the Chair on this resolution because it's unusual, obviously, to have a CEO of a public company do a merger transaction, remain the CEO, and then have a founder come on the board as an executive director, sit around the table with circa 20% of the company, and big personality, big history, amazing performance. How has Vikesh managed the relationship with Mario? What's his perspective on how they're going to work together? I mean, I presume you've been having some discussions outside of the board, not being able to formally meet, but what are your feelings about having Mario sitting beside you as an executive director and reporting to you?

Vikesh Ramsunder
Managing Director and CEO, Sigma Healthcare

Can you hear me? There you go. Actually, I'm looking forward to it. If I consider Mario's, I guess, expertise and experience that he has and in what he's created in the country, and combining that with my experience having run a listed entity, I think the combination actually can be very good for the future organization. So I have no reservations around it.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you. Thank you, Vikesh. Are there any further questions from the room? Are there any questions from the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Your turn, Gary. Any questions online?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

It's got it. It's done.

No questions online.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. I'll now put on the screen details of votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution, and I welcome Mario to the Sigma board. Resolution five seeks approval for the election of Mr. Damien Gance as a Sigma director with effect from implementation of the transaction. Damien is a qualified pharmacist who joined My Chemist in 1998, and in June 2000, Damien became the first Chemist Warehouse franchisee. Damien is currently Chief Commercial Officer of Chemist Warehouse and has played an integral role through the merger negotiations. All Sigma directors have voted in favor of the resolution. I now move that Damien Gance be elected as a director of the company. Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

So, Chair, with the post-debate proxy disclosure, we've obviously seen there was an 8% protest against Jack's election, but only 2% against Mario. I'm guessing that Damien and Danielle will have the biggest protest votes because you can probably run the strongest argument against them being voting directors, given they're non-independent and non-founders. Could you just inform the meeting of the proxy position so we can talk that through if there has been a material proxy vote? And did any of the five major proxy advisors, so ASA, Ownership Matters, Glass Lewis, ACSI, and ISS, did any of them actually recommend against Damien's election today? And if so, what were their grounds?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

So there's a range of questions in there. All I can say is I'm not aware of any proxy advisors voting against any of the resolutions for today's meeting. No exceptions. The balance of your question, I honestly can't answer.

All right. So corporate voting's not a secret ballot in Australia. So you can see everyone who's voted. I hope you will. I'm surprised you haven't interrogated who voted the 8% against one of the founders normally because you can just ring them up and say, "Why did you do it?" It's totally. You've got all the data. So I'm presuming that one of the proxy advisors has recommended against because that's 8%. So anyway, but I guess we'll see the votes shortly.

Thank you, Mr. Mayne. Are there any phone questions on this subject?

Operator

Online at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Are there any online questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No online questions.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you. I'll now put on the screen details of votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support in this resolution, and I welcome Damien to the Sigma board. Resolution five seeks approval for the election of Miss Danielle Di Pilla as a Sigma director with effect from implementation of the transaction. Danielle is a qualified pharmacist who in 2000 also established and is the managing director of DPP Pharmaceuticals Proprietary Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of Chemist Warehouse, and the founder of brands such as Goat Soap. Danielle also sits on the board of Gotcha4Life and, among other things, is currently the Chief People Officer at Chemist Warehouse. All directors have voted in favor of the resolution. I now move that Danielle Di Pilla be elected as a director of the company.

Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

Yeah. So obviously, we're only going to have two female directors out of nine when all this washes through. I am curious as to why Kate Spargo is leaving, why that, I presume that was a negotiated outcome. I would have thought with a relatively small board that it would have been better to not have anyone elbowed out and to have that extra independent director on the board, particularly with the corporate memory, particularly given the scale of the related party transactions to be managed. So why did we, why was that negotiated? Why did you agree to that outcome?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

I think I have already covered that in my speech, saying the composition of the board in terms of numbers and its makeup was a negotiated outcome. I, for one, will obviously miss Kate's expertise. She's been an outstanding director. She was also pushing up against what is best practice in terms of maximum term for a director, but she will be missed. She's a great director, and I think I've already covered off the balance of the rationale in my speech already, Mr. Mayne.

Okay. Just one follow-up question on that. I'm a bit curious about the Risk, Compliance and Sustainability Committee. So normally that would be an Independent Committee, you'd think, but all four of the Chemist Warehouse nominees are on that, and the only independent is, I think it's Neville. It's got the word compliance in that committee name, and I would have thought that compliance with related party transaction good governance is actually a massive part of the compliance job, as well as obviously all the pharmaceutical approvals and the health standards sides of things. Could you just explain why that particular committee is dominated by the Chemist Warehouse nominees, including Danielle?

I think it's probably fair to say I think the depth of experience and skill of the Chemist Warehouse directors has a lot to offer for that committee. They understand their business better than anyone else, and I think it's entirely appropriate that that experience and skill base lies in that committee. And yes, it doesn't necessarily meet ASX best practice, but throughout the whole transaction, we have used the word unique a lot, okay? Likewise, when we've engaged regulators as well. So I think what you're observing here is a threshold, but unique transaction doesn't fit perfectly to an ASX governance box given the composition of the board, and I think the Board Committee structure and the membership that we've struck is in the best interest of the business and good governance.

Okay. And just my final question. I was hoping that the candidates would be available to answer this, but unfortunately, not. If you look at the share price, the Chemist Warehouse shareholders have been massively generous to Sigma. Our stock's gone from $0.76 to $3.03 today. The results yesterday were spectacular. I was surprised that you suspended the stock this morning when the votes in favor are so comprehensive. I was expecting you would just disclose the voting position before the meeting, before the market opened, and then allow the stock to trade all day. So could you explain why you've done that? And the rational situation of a Chemist Warehouse major shareholder tonight at 6:00 P.M. might well be to say, "Why have we given away $3 million of value to Sigma?

Vote against and just float ourselves and then do a takeover of Sigma." So what are the risks tonight? And obviously, Mario's nodding and looking at his co-founder and patting him on the leg. So are they legally contractually bound to voting in favour? What would trigger a vote against tonight? And was the risk of that one of the reasons why you suspended the stock today? Because I don't understand why you've suspended the stock when the votes in favour are so comprehensively in favour. The only thing I can think of is something might happen tonight at the pokies pub in Preston.

If I want to try and clarify your question, it's why did we suspend trading today?

And what are the risks of the founders being rational and voting down the deal, sending our stock back to $0.76, and then launching a takeover of $1?

Okay. I would have thought, given that we're having this meeting this afternoon, the prudent governance step would be to not trade today and resume trading when the vote outcome from this meeting is known and the scheme meeting is known. I would have thought that would be good governance practice, and that's what we've done.

All right, so is it 75% tonight of voted stock?

I think the scheme is 75%, yeah.

50% of the 311 shareholders?

Yeah.

So is there a risk of small franchisees using a gerrymander to knock it over?

I think there's a scheme meeting starting this evening that I don't really think there's any point in us trying to speculate what might or might not.

I'd love to go, but I think it sounds like we're locked out. But anyway, look forward to seeing the announcement tomorrow as to hopefully they are voting in favor because you've done us a huge favor gifting us AUD 3 million of value. So thank you.

Thank you, sir. Okay. Are there any questions from the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Gary, any online questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

One general board question. So what is the priority of the new board once the transaction completes?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

I think if I was to summarise, we have two great businesses merging into one. There are a lot of implementation issues and a lot of change management issues, and I think it's probably fair to say that the board is really keen to get to the start line over a whole bunch of integration matters and give Vikesh and the team the right to move on. So I think that's really what it comes down to. It's been an unusual period of time having to wait so long to get to this point, and for competition legal reasons, as I've already covered, there's lots of things that we haven't been able to do. So that will just get started, quite frankly.

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

Any further questions?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you. I'll now put up on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution, and I welcome Danielle to the Sigma board. Okay. This resolution nine seeks Sigma shareholder approval for the purposes of Listing Rule 10.17 and Rule 10.2 of the Sigma Constitution and for all other purposes for Sigma to be authorized to increase the total maximum aggregate amount of fees payable to its non-executive Sigma directors from AUD 1.5 million per year to an aggregate of AUD 2.5 million per annum. Resolution nine is an ordinary resolution.

In determining this recommended quantum, the Nomination Remuneration Committee and Sigma board considered the complexity, scale, and size of the merged group, and accordingly, the level of Sigma board oversight required, appropriate market benchmarking of entities with a similar market capitalization, the increase in the Sigma board size following the transaction, the increase in committees from two to four, and the establishment and number of IBC meetings, the lack of ability within the current fee pool to appoint a new Sigma director if appropriate to do so, and the fact that the last fee pool increase for non-executive directors occurred almost ten years ago in 2015. Are there any questions from the room on this resolution? Okay. Are there any questions from the phone?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Are there any online written questions, Gary?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No online questions.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Thank you. I'll now put up on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. That now brings us to the last two resolutions for today's meeting. Resolutions 10 and 11 seek Sigma shareholder approval for the purposes of Listing Rules 6.23.2 and 6.23.4 to approve the cancellation of and changes to existing performance rights issued under the 2023 Executive Equity Grant Plan. For context, in respect of the 2023 Executive Equity Grant Plan, this plan and the underlying rights were around halfway through their vesting period, and Sigma needed certainty around the number of shares on issue at the time of implementation. As a result, the board has made the following decision to both reward and retain our management.

25% of the LTI rights, being the original service-based component of the grant, lapse upon implementation and are replaced by a deferred cash bonus of equivalent value that will be paid subject to continued employment on 31 January 2026. 37.5% of the LTI rights lapse upon implementation and are replaced by a cash bonus of equivalent value paid at implementation. 37.5% of the LTI rights vest upon implementation. The ordinary shares in Sigma allocated on vesting of the rights are then held in escrow subject to continued employment until 31 January 2026. For the CEO, this represents 3,112,383 performance rights under the EEG. Resolutions 10 and 11 are ordinary resolutions and are interconditional. ASX Listing Rule 6.23.2 provides that a change which has the effect of cancelling an option for consideration can only be made if holders of ordinary securities approve the change.

ASX considers that performance rights are options for the purposes of ASX Listing Rule 6.23. As 62.5% of the performance rights issued under the EEG plan will lapse and be replaced by a cash payment under the new structure, the effect of the new structure is to cancel those performance rights for consideration. Accordingly, resolution 10 seeks Sigma shareholder approval for the purposes of ASX Listing R ule 6.23.2 and for all other purposes for the cancellation of those performance rights for consideration. Are there any questions from the room?

Operator

Chair, we have a question from Stephen Mayne.

Once again, has there been any material opposition to this on the proxies?

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

No.

Okay. So shareholders are comfortable. And if this was voted down, the deal would still go ahead, the merger?

Yes.

So the shareholders could have chosen to vote this down and not imperil the deal?

Theoretically, yes.

Yeah. Okay. All right. And then when's the next AGM likely to be? Are we still looking at May, or are we going to move forward to November?

That's an excellent question. I'm not entirely sure that that's been worked out yet given the change in balance sheet of Sigma. I think the dates are still pretty fluid at this stage. Is that fair, Kara? Yeah. So I can't answer that definitively because I don't know.

Is there likely to be incentive resolutions at the next AGM whenever it is?

I would have.

Or are we dealing with it today? Is this it?

We're making this decision today. This is also confirmation of a decision that was flagged in the merger announcement back in December 2023.

All right. And well done to Vikesh. This deal has created an enormous amount of value. Glad to see you're sharing in some of it. Good luck working with the giant killers here. It'll be interesting to see how it all goes.

Thank you, Mr. Mayne.

Are there any further questions from the room? Are there any phone questions?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Gary, are there any online written questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No online questions.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you. I'll now put on the screen details of the votes received from shareholders prior to the meeting for this resolution 10. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. ASX Listing Rule 6.23.3 provides that a change to an option which has the effect of reducing the exercise price, increasing the period of exercise, or increasing the number of securities received on exercise cannot be made. ASX Listing Rule 6.23.4 provides that a change to an option which is not prohibited under ASX Listing Rule 6.23.3 can only be made if holders of ordinary securities in the company in question approve the change. ASX considers that performance rights are options for the purposes of ASX Listing Rule 6.23.

37.5% of the performance rights issued under the EEG plan are proposed to vest upon implementation on the basis that the shares issued on exercise of those performance rights subject to disposal restrictions and forfeiture if the holder ceases employment before 31 January 2026. The imposition of these disposal restrictions and forfeiture conditions on shares issued on exercise of vested performance rights is a change not prohibited by ASX Listing Rule 6.23.3 and accordingly can only be made if approved by Sigma shareholders. Are there any questions from the room on this resolution? There's no questions from the room. Are there any phone questions?

Operator

There are no questions on the phone line at this time.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Gary, any online written questions?

Gary Woodford
Head of Investor Relations, Sigma Healthcare

No online questions.

Michael Sammells
Chairman, Sigma Healthcare

Okay. Thank you. I'll now put on the screen details of the valid available votes received from shareholders for this resolution 11. We thank shareholders for your support on this resolution. That brings us to the end of the resolutions of the meeting. In terms of the critical next steps, Chemist Warehouse are holding their shareholder meeting tonight to vote on the scheme of arrangement. We then have some legal requirements to complete ahead of an implementation date of 12 February, and on 13 February, the new Sigma shares issued under the transaction commence trading on a normal settlement basis. That brings us to the end of the formalities. As I formally close this meeting, I would like to thank my fellow directors for your support and commitment, especially over the last 18 months, and I welcome the incoming directors of the Sigma board.

I would like to also acknowledge and thank our Sigma team members who have shown incredible resilience through an intense period. Executing our strategy has been a three-year turnaround that has enhanced our business operations and ultimately been a key enabler for today's outcome. I would especially like to thank our shareholders. Sigma has taken significant strides over the last years to become a better business, and the decisions that have been approved by shareholders today set us on a very exciting path with significant opportunity ahead. Voting will remain open for a further five minutes to enable shareholders to complete and submit their votes. The results of the poll from today's meeting will be declared and announced via the ASX and placed on the company website. Finally, I want to thank you for joining us today, and I invite you to join us for refreshments in the lobby.

With that, I'll formally close the meeting.

Powered by