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Earnings Call: H2 2023

Aug 15, 2023

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Treasury Wine Estates FY 2023 full year results. All participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, you will need to press the star key, followed by number one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Tim Ford, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Thank you, and good morning. Thanks for joining the TWE 2023 full year results briefing. Joining me today on the call, as per normal, members of our leadership team, Matt Young, our CFO, Tom King, the Managing Director of Penfolds, Ben Dollard, President of Treasury Americas, and Pete Nielsen, the Managing Director of TPB. I'm pleased to announce today our results for fiscal 23, a year where we delivered margin accretive earnings growth, built on our already strong platforms for luxury wine growth with Penfolds globally and also with our United States portfolio, and made significant progress in the strengthening of our operating model for the future. EBIT increased 11% to AUD 583.5 million in the year, and we grew EBIT's margin by 2.9 percentage points to 24.1%.

We are particularly pleased to report the margin expansion in an environment of elevated cost inflation as we continue to make progress towards our long-term EBIT margin target of 25% and then beyond. Our performance was driven by continued growth in our luxury portfolios, where our momentum remains very strong, particularly for Penfolds. Through the successful implementation of price increases across several key brands with strong equity, and also through incremental cost savings from our global supply chain optimization programs. Pleasingly, premiumization trends are continuing in our key markets, with ongoing strength of luxury wine and the overall resilience within the premium wine category.

While commercial price point volumes remain in decline globally, we are acting both proactively and decisively to ensure that we have our operating model, our cost and asset base in the right shape moving forward, with some excellent progress made in recent months, which I'll touch on in more detail shortly. With that said, we enter FY 2024 well positioned to deliver growth, led by our luxury brand portfolio, our culture-led premium brand portfolio, and the benefits of our asset and cost-based optimization initiatives already delivered in FY 2023. Our confidence in our future trajectory is underpinned by our diversified global business model, our brands, our markets, our channels, and the multiple country of origin portfolios, which has proven to be a significant strength, enabling us to adapt and respond to the ever-changing consumer and economic environment over the past year in particular.

Now, touching on some of the other key performance and financial highlights. Portfolio sales premiumization continued, reflecting luxury sales growth, as well as the commercial portfolio declines, with 85% of our global revenue now generated from the premium and luxury portfolios, an increase of 2 percentage points on the prior year. Net sales revenue did decline 2% to AUD 2.4 billion, with luxury sales growth and price increases across key portfolio brands, partly offset by the commercial portfolio decline. This very strong sales mix, which reflects the ongoing premiumization of the category as well as our business, saw revenue per case increase by 13%. In addition to strong EBIT growth, we delivered growth in net profit after tax, which, along with earnings per share, increased by 17%.

Cash conversion was 61%, excluding the change in premium and luxury, non-current inventory was 76%, which is below our annual target of 90% or higher, reflecting the timing of our sales in Asia in the fourth quarter, as well as the earlier timing of supplier payments and promotional spend on our brands in Treasury Americas and Penfolds. We expect our F 2024 delivery for cash conversion to be in line with the target. Leverage was at 1.9 times, remaining within our 1.5 to 2 times through-the-cycle target, leaving us once again with a strong balance sheet and with options to use this strength to continue to drive growth and shareholder value.

Finally, the board declared a final dividend of AUD 0.17 per share, bringing the full-year dividend to AUD 0.35 per share, which is a payout ratio of 67% for the full year, which once again is towards the upper end of our target range and an increase from 13% on the prior year. Our three brand portfolio divisions, Penfolds, Treasury Americas, and Treasury Premium Brands, each made progress towards their strategic objectives in the year, with the delivery of NSR per case growth and margin expansion by each division on a constant currency basis, a highlight. The Penfolds result was clearly a standout, with strong double-digit top-line growth reflecting the strength of this exceptional brand and the outstanding execution by the team, who continue to build distribution and grow consumer demand globally.

In Treasury Americas, we have continued to build our exceptional luxury portfolio platform, delivering price rises across a number of brands and growing distribution in a year of constrained wine availability. In our premium portfolio, we saw another year of double-digit revenue growth for Matua. Whilst revenues for 19 Crimes declined in the year, overall, this brand is performing above market trends when you look at retailer scan data, reinforcing the strength of the brand equity in 19 Crimes. Overall, EBIT margin for the division grew strongly, reflecting this portfolio mix, as well as improved cost management. For Treasury Premium Brands, we maintained excellent momentum in a number of priority brands, which enabled double-digit growth in gross profit for both the premium and luxury portfolios for TPB.

Whilst the top line was impacted by the category-wide decline in commercial portfolio volumes, improved mix and the delivery of price increases helped support gross profit expansion. The team has made outstanding progress in delivering the new TPB operating model and the supply chain restructure to support that. Shortly, Tom, Ben, and Pete will each provide some more detail on the performance of the three divisions. Touching on sustainability, where in F 2023, we continued to make progress towards what is an ambitious suite of commitments in a number of very important areas.

For climate change and energy, the launch of Australia's largest winery solar installation in the Barossa Valley was a highlight, with a similar rollout to follow in California through fiscal 24. We are on track to deliver on our target for 100% renewable electricity across our operations by the end of calendar year 2024. As a business with a significant agricultural footprint across key global wine-making regions, we have a responsibility to be a leader in water stewardship. In F 2023, we delivered on our strategy called Treasuring Water, which was informed by the comprehensive review we completed the prior year.

As part of this, we have committed to investing in smart water meter technology across all of our high and medium-risk sites, and vineyards, and wineries by the end of F 2025, which will enable us to make smarter, data-led decisions around our use of the water, particularly in our vineyards and wineries. We continue to target Destination Zero Harm as the core of our health, safety, and wellbeing agenda. In F 2023, we achieved our target for a reduction in the serious incident frequency rate, supported by the launch of the organization-wide Build Safe Together campaign, which included a particular focus on mental health to supplement the strength and physical health we already had.

Female representation remains a key element of our inclusion, equity, and diversity commitments. We saw continued improvement in F 2023, with an increase in total female representation to 42.8% of our total employee population, up 0.9 points in the year, while representation of females across our senior leader cohort held broadly stable. Finally, on this topic, in terms of sustainable packaging, we did not achieve our goal for 100% of our packaging to be recyclable, reusable, or compostable by the end of 2022 calendar year. That doesn't mean we're not making great progress in the area.

For example, at the Barossa Packaging Centre, approximately 90% of production is now recyclable, with the remaining elements reflecting challenges for the broader industry. We are seeking to work collaboratively with our dry goods partners and peers to solve for these problematic materials by the end of 2025. We aspire to be a leader in sustainability, not just in the wine industry, but across the global beverage sector. While we still have much to do, I'm very confident we're on the right track towards achieving our ambition. At our full-year results update 12 months ago, we shared our expectations for the wine category performance leading into a tightening economic environment, with our message at the time reflecting our confidence that category fundamentals would remain strong across our key markets through this cycle, particularly for premium and luxury wine.

Pleasingly, 12 months on, it is playing out as we expected, with premiumization continuing to drive the category globally and with a number of key long-term consumption drivers enduring. Luxury wine consumption remains strong, with double-digit value growth recorded in a number of markets through the 2022 calendar year, as measured by IWSR, including in Asia, Australia, and the U.K. Whilst in the U.S., we saw modest growth across the market, largely due to reduced availability from the 2020 vintage that was impacted, as we all know, by the wildfires in Napa. Great results there. All metric and indicators that we track constantly suggest this trend has continued through 2023 year to date. Consumption in mainland China did decline during the period, largely due to impacts from the pandemic, but we remain confident in the significant long-term opportunity for the category and ourselves in that market.

The premium segment has remained resilient, as you can see on the chart, which shows value and volume trends as measured by scan data, which is the best measure of consumer demand. The Australia and U.K. premium category has seen value growth over the past year, with the U.S. being in very slight decline, albeit the past 13-week data shows an improving trend to growth for the premium wine segment in the United States. We see these trends in both the premium and luxury wine segments in our key markets remaining largely consistent in F 2024. For TWE, our strong luxury portfolio momentum continued in F 2023. It was another year of exceptional performance. Penfolds grew revenue by 15% or more in Asia, Australia, and in EMEA, whilst also achieving double-digit growth in distribution across the global target account universe....

Portfolio expansion was another highlight, with the multi-country of origin focus successfully expanding to include wine sourced from France and China across both the bin portfolio and the newly launched One by Penfolds tier. In Treasury Americas, despite constrained availability, we grew the breadth and quality of our distribution for the luxury portfolio and implemented double-digit price rises across key brands such as Stags' Leap and Beaulieu Vineyard. In addition, revenue through our cellar doors and wine clubs grew 10%, a pleasing return to growth for this highly profitable channel. As we return, I should say, to a normalized level of luxury portfolio availability from fiscal 25, we remain very confident in our U.S. luxury portfolio as a strong platform of future growth in Treasury Americas and for the group.

We also saw a number of our premium portfolio brands continue their strong performance in F 2023, reflecting our ongoing focus on investment and innovation. Two highlights were Squealing Pig and Matua brands, whose global revenue increased by 17% and 11%, respectively, in F 2023, with each of these brands growing across multiple markets. For Matua, in particular, it was the third consecutive year of double-digit revenue growth, driven by the United States. The 19 Crimes brand globally has strengthened over the course of F 2023. Firstly, in the U.S., 19 Crimes grew across scan channels for the year, delivering 1% growth against a premium segment, which I've already highlighted, which declined slightly, with momentum certainly improving considerably in Q4, in line with our plans and activation.

Outside of the U.S., 19 Crimes continued to perform strongly in all other markets, with revenue up 8%, driven by growth, in particular in EMEA and Asia. Our focus for this very important brand, 19 Crimes, in the first half of fiscal 2024, will be the global launch of our new brand platform, our new package, and a very innovative consumer campaign. We expect continued growth and improved performance for this tier to come through, in particular, in the second half globally. As we have previously explained, throughout this year, 19 Crimes, as a brand globally, did perform below our internal expectations. However, it outperformed the market in the premium category globally. In May, we announced our intention to implement a range of initiatives designed to strengthen the operating model for TPB.

Before I step through those, it's worth recapping on what we've learned about this business since it became a standalone division in July 2021, 2 years ago. The priority brands, which include Wynns, Pepperjack, Squealing Pig, 19 Crimes, and St Huberts The Stag, are proving to be a genuine growth engine, connecting strongly with consumers and providing a great platform to take advantage of the long-term category premiumization trends. To put some context to this, our priority premium portfolio has grown revenue at an annual compound growth rate of 25% over the past 3 years. The opportunity to grow this portfolio outside of the core Australian and U.K. retail markets, we believe, is significant, and we're making good gains, particularly in Southeast Asia, where we've gained real traction over the past 2 years, building both awareness and distribution of our brands.

With the essence of TPB centering on driving category-leading innovation, inventiveness is a core part of this business's DNA. We've seen that through our product development in the Better For You space, with innovations like Pepperjack Mid Strength and the introduction of new packaging formats like magnums, reflecting the strength of focus of being consumer and insight-led within this business. These elements reinforce our confidence in the long-term trajectory for TPB, with top-line growth and margin expansion to be led by the continued growth of the premium portfolio, which now is over half of division revenue. Commercial wine, however, in line with overall market trends, has seen consistent annual decline, driving the reduction in total division volume.

We do expect the decline in commercial volume to continue, and with that in mind, we've embarked on a series of initiatives to get ahead of any long-term adverse impacts, aimed at right-sizing the cost and asset base and ensuring greater operational and strategic flexibility to support the continued growth of these premium and luxury portfolios I've talked about. These initiatives have included reducing the overhead costs to align with the future scale and size of the business, implementing changes to our commercial wine supply chain to what will now essentially be an outsourced and more capital-light supply model, as well as divesting and rationalizing our asset base. The transition of commercial wine production to outsourced third-party providers, the closure of the Karadoc Winery, and the divestment of commercial-grade vineyards have all been key actions that have or are being progressed through to fiscal 2024.

Upon completion of this program, we will have delivered a number of significant benefits, including variabilizing the commercial wine cost base, mitigating the impacts of higher COGS as a result of reduced commercial portfolio volumes, thereby reducing TPB's exposure to this commercial wine segment, and increasing our strategic flexibility and optionality with respect to the remaining portfolio. As always, we continue to assess asset and brand optimization initiatives that we believe will further strengthen TPB's operating model. We are confident this business is now structured appropriately to continue its growth focus on the portfolio premiumization and margin growth strengths that this business does have. With that, I'll now hand over to Matt, who's going to run through the financial results.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Tim. Morning, everyone. Pleased to share with you the highlights of our fiscal 23 financial results. Group net sales revenue declined 4.9% on a constant currency basis, reflecting commercial portfolio declines within TPB and premium portfolio declines in Treasury Americas. Against these, however, Penfolds delivered revenue growth of 13.8%, and we saw the benefit of incremental pricing across all divisions. Those price increases, plus the portfolio mix shift to a more luxury premium wines, delivered 9.6% increase in NSR per case, supporting our premiumization strategy. COGS per case increased 2.8%, reflecting the premiumization of the portfolio, but it includes the benefit of our 2020 global supply chain optimization program, which delivered $62 million on a run rate for the year.

On a mix-adjusted basis, COGS per case were in line with the prior year, as expected. Cost of doing business margin increased 1 percentage point to 22%, driven by lower NSR, but also the continued focus of brand investment across the portfolio. EBIT was AUD 583.5 million, an increase of 8.6% on a constant currency basis, and EBIT margin improved to 24.1%, with margin expansion delivered through stronger portfolio mix, price rises, and strong cost management. ROCE increased 0.6 percentage points to 11.3%, which is progress on our plans to restore and grow ROCE. Finally, our leverage increased modestly to 1.9 times, in line with our through-the-cycle target range, with flexibility to support investment and gro- in growth and the delivery of shareholder returns.

Our continued focus on revenue growth management has allowed us to deliver sustainable underlying growth of earnings and margin expansion in fiscal 2023 and will be a continued focus in fiscal 2024. We'll continue to invest strongly behind our brands, building on the current momentum we're experiencing in many markets to drive top-line growth. When we presented in August last year, we talked about our plans to take targeted price rises in fiscal 2023. As you've heard from Tim and I already, those price rises were successful and supported our improved revenue per case and EBIT margin. On this slide, you'll see further detail of the price rises achieved on the brands we highlighted last year. These included increases on the Penfolds Luxury Cabernet Bins, such as $10 per bottle on Bin 407.

Increases on premium brands, including 6% increase for 19 Crimes in the highly competitive U.K. market and 10% increase on Matua in the U.S. Importantly, as we build on the luxury portfolio platform in the U.S., we've taken double-digit pricing during the current period on supply-constrained brands, products such as Stags' Leap Cabernet, which you see here, but also similar price rises on the Chardonnay, as well as Beaulieu Vineyard, among other brands. The strength of our revenue growth management disciplines will further support top-line growth and margin expansion in the future. Total material items of $109 million, or $76 million after tax, have been recognized in the year and generated net positive cash flows of $34.5 million.

In addition to the previously announced programs of work, costs associated with the implementation of our new TPB operating model and supply chain restructure were recognized in the year. We expect this program will be complete in fiscal 2024, with total one-off costs of approximately AUD 90 million, cash costs of AUD 30 million overall associated with that program. Moving to the balance sheet. Net assets increased AUD 90 million versus the prior year on a reported basis. Key factors impacting the balance sheet in the half, outside of working capital, include the acquisition of Château Lanessan and the divestment of non-core supply assets in Australia and the U.S. I'll turn to inventory in more detail. Total inventory value increased 8% versus the prior corresponding period. Current inventory increased AUD 42 million, reflecting future demand expectations for our premium and luxury portfolios.

Non-current inventory increased $112 million versus the prior year. Within this, we note that premium inventory has increased, and this reflects the moderation of sales performance in our premium portfolios, and this is being managed through the normal course of operations, through future sales plans, or as we balance our inventory through future vintages. In fiscal 24, we expect mix-adjusted COGS per case to be in line with fiscal 23. The impact of the lower-yielding vintage 23 intake, as well as reduced portfolio volumes, is reflected in this expectation, as are the benefits of our recently announced supply chain restructure. We believe holding cost of goods flat in a period of ongoing higher inflation is a pleasing outcome, testament to the flexibility of our teams to respond to the changes in the supply chain. Turning to cash flow and net debt.

Operating cash flow before interest, tax, and material items was AUD 443 million for the year, with reported cash conversion of 60.6%. Excluding the change in non-current luxury and premium inventory, cash conversion was 76%, which was below our target of 90% or above. Cash conversion was impacted by the timing of sales, particularly into Asia, with a greater proportion of export sales shipping in May and June, as opposed to March and April and May than we'd planned. Given the value of the sales and the standard credit terms with export customers, this impacted our cash conversion by approximately 10%. Also impacting cash conversion was the timing of global supplier payments and brand investment spend on Penfolds and Treasury Americas.

In particular, in these markets, our spend on future programs was slightly earlier than previous years as we got ready for the important launches, launches like One by Penfolds and the new 19 Crimes platform. We expect F 2024 cash conversion to be in line with our stated targets of 90% or higher. Moving now to CapEx. Total CapEx for the year was $141 million, which included maintenance CapEx of $102 million, and the acquisition of a previously leased vineyard in the U.S. for $25 million. Our investment in solar technology in Australia and California was a highlight, and it will support the achievement of delivering 100% of energy from sustainable sources by 2024. We continue to expect maintenance CapEx for fiscal 2024 to be approximately $100 million. Finally, to capital management.

Overall, our disciplined approach to capital allocation and cash flow has ensured we've maintained an efficient and flexible investment-grade capital structure. This remains a key source of business strength, importantly, will be enabler of continued investment in fiscal 2024. Leverage was 1.9 times at the end of fiscal 2023, within our target range of 1.5-2 times, we expect to delever over the course of fiscal 2024. Liquidity position remains strong, over $1.4 billion of cash and committed undrawn debt facilities, proactive risk management will ensure that our cost of funds will only rise modestly in fiscal 2024, despite an environment of increasing interest rates.

As Tim mentioned at the start, we've today announced a fully franked dividend of AUD 0.17 per share, with our full-year payout of AUD 0.35 continuing to be at the top end of our policy range. Thank you. I'll now hand over to Tom.

Tom King
Managing Director of Penfolds, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Matt, and good morning, everyone. I'm delighted to report an outstanding result for Penfolds. In a year that we've continued to see robust demand for luxury wine and the Penfolds brand globally. As a team, we've remained laser-focused on executing against our strategic priorities, and the results we are seeing are a testament to the quality of this effort, and I'm extremely proud of the Penfolds team. Volume and NSR increased 7% and 14% respectively, driven by strong momentum across the portfolio in Asia, Australia, and EMEA, the successful launch of One by Penfolds in China, and growth in our multi-country origin portfolio. NSR per case improved 6%, reflecting improved mix and supported by price rises on our supply-constrained luxury Cabernet Bins.

COGS per case increased, reflecting the release of wines from the higher-cost 2020 vintage and increased contribution from the higher-cost U.S. and French portfolios. Cost of doing business increased 6% as we continued to invest in brand building to focus on accelerating our strong global momentum. This led to a 16% increase in EBIT to AUD 365 million and an EBIT margin of 44.5%. It's been an exciting year for Penfolds, with many execution highlights around the globe. We took our strategic focus on building consumer demand to a new level, using our deep insights on our consumers, both luxurians and connoisseurs, to recruit and re-recruit consumers to Penfolds, which is reflected in the 15% and above revenue growth we delivered in Asia, Australia, and EMEA.

We recently welcomed our first creative partner, Nigo, whose creative talents span fashion, art, and music, to partner with us on One by Penfolds, our new brand tier, inspired by culture, collaboration, and community, focused on engaging the next wave of Penfolds consumers. We revamped and upgraded our Recorking Clinics , a key way for us to engage with wine connoisseurs, providing collectors with an opportunity to connect with our winemakers and enjoy a luxury brand experience that is uniquely Penfolds. We launched luxurious gifting formats in the Lunar New Year period, ensuring that Penfolds is front and center for consumers during key gift-giving periods. We also made significant headway growing global distribution and availability, continuing to roll out our targeted data-led approach to scaling our availability in the right outlets with the right portfolio, and then bringing this to life in-store with brand activation to drive rate of sale.

Our approach is working, with Penfolds outlets and listings growing across our priority growth markets. In our emerging markets in Asia, we focus on growing the number of outlets in which we are distributed. We saw strong double-digit growth across Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand continue, which sets us up well to continue growing our top line in these markets. Outlet growth in Hong Kong was slower, impacted by pandemic-related restrictions through the year. In other key markets, we prioritize listings as the measure of distribution. We also delivered improvement in these markets during the year. In Australia, listings grew 7%, a very pleasing result for a relatively mature market, where our revenue grew 18%. Listings in the U.K. doubled, driven by our collaborative partnerships with key grocery channel customers and increased brand investment in this market.

In the U.S., listings increased for both the Californian and Australian-sourced wines, driven by a significant focus in the on-premise and by-the-glass programming to drive brand awareness and trial. I'm excited by the significant opportunity ahead of us as we continue to increase our distribution, which we're confident will continue to support our delivery of top-line growth. Our other focus is expanding our portfolio, particularly through the acceleration of our multi-country of origin strategy. It was a milestone year for Penfolds collection, with the 2022 collection, including the release of wines from 3 countries of origin: Australia, the U.S., and the inaugural release from France. This was followed more recently by another milestone release with our 2023 collection, including a 4th country of origin, with the introduction of CWT 521, our first bin-level wine sourced and produced in mainland China.

The successful launch of One by Penfolds was also a key highlight, with over 100,000 cases sold in China through e-commerce, retail, and on-premise. In July, we held our global launch of One by Penfolds, with wine from Australia, California, and France adding to this portfolio. This is just a glimpse at some of our highlights in the past year. We've connected with more consumers than ever before, and we're providing them with more choice to experience quality Penfolds wines through the expansion of our portfolio. I'm excited about what is ahead for Penfolds in F 2024. Thank you. I'll now hand over to Ben Dollard.

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

Great. Thank you, Tom. Good morning. It's a pleasure to join you today from the U.S. I'm pleased to share the fiscal 23 results for Treasury Americas. Overall, the Americas business is in good shape. We have delivered margin expansion, and we've built on our key platforms growth throughout the year. Our luxury brands, led by Frank Family Vineyards, Stags' Leap, and Beaulieu Vineyards, now account for just under 40% of our revenue and continues to gain strength through distribution, expansion, and price accretion in a year where we've had less luxury wine to sell than in previous years. We are also well progressed in executing our plans for the new and refreshed 19 Crimes brand platform. From new package to the new consumer campaign, to the next wave of category-leading innovation the brand has become known for. Turning to the key financial metrics.

Volume and NSR declined 25%, 18%, respectively, driven by the premium portfolio, in particular, 19 Crimes and Sterling Vineyards. As we foreshadowed entering fiscal 23, reduced availability of luxury wine from lower-yielding 2020 ca vintage. Volumes were impacted by shipments being 600,000 cases behind depletions, as distributors inch their inventory closely, a trend we are seeing not only across the wine industry, but broadly across other alcoholic beverage categories as well. Going forward, we are confident our strong and collaborative relationships and joint business plans with our key distributor partners will ensure the right levels of availability to continue growing our priority brands. Pleasingly, NSR per case increased 9%, reflecting the shift in portfolio mix and successful delivery of price increases on key luxury and premium brands.

COGS per case decreased slightly this period, with benefits from the global supply chain optimization program offsetting the mix shift impacts. Cost of doing business reduced, driven by lower discretionary overhead costs. We delivered EBIT of AUD 204 million, in line with the prior period on a constant currency basis, an EBIT margin of 24.8%, just shy of our long-term margin ambition of 25%. Turning to progress against strategic priorities, specifically growing our premium and luxury brand portfolios. In the premium segment, we continue to invest in consumer engagement. Matua, our leading Sauvignon Blanc brand from New Zealand, has invested heavily in digital and event activation, promoting our Endless Summer campaign. Matua is rapidly expanding and gaining in popularity with consumers, growing 10% in IRI channels and outpacing the New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc category.

Well, we have successfully launched new innovations, including Matua Lighter in the first half, followed by Matua Coolers cans in the... Likewise, St Huberts The Stag is the official wine sponsor for the X Games, connecting with consumers, their outdoor lifestyle. St Huberts The Stag is resonating strongly with consumers, achieving 19% value growth in scan year, specifically outpacing the total ultra-premium category. In the luxury portfolio, our execution was strong despite supply constraints. We are strengthening our luxury platform and successfully in-implementing price increases across our priority portfolio. We have grown the breadth and quality of distribution nationally. Another highlight for the improving performance of our cellar doors and wine clubs, with NSR up 10%. Our cellar doors are a key component of our overall luxury strategy and an important way to engage directly with our consumers.

Frank Family Vineyards was a highlight, delivering results ahead of expectations in its first full year as part of Treasury Americas. We look to increased availability of Chardonnay from Q4 of fiscal 2024 to support the growth we expect for this brand. Beaulieu Vineyards achieved a significant milestone with the 2019 Georges de Latour awarded a 100 point score and Wine of the Year from James Suckling. In addition, the 2019 Napa Valley Cabernet was awarded Wine Spectator's number one Wine Value of the Year. Our preeminent luxury portfolio is well-positioned. While availability will remain relatively constrained in fiscal, albeit delivering growth, we look forward to a return to normalized availability in fiscal 2025, supporting our confidence in growth, growth expectations. Moving on to our next strategic priority, delivering category-leading innovation.

The 19 Crimes franchise remained in growth across scan channels, growing 1% over the year and outperforming the market, which declined slightly. This was driven by Cali Gold, a leading sparkling wine innovation for 2022, and the number 3 innovation in the total category, and other innovations, including Cali Blanc. Our first limited time offer for St. Patrick's Day of Revolutionary Red Blend was a success, achieving significant demand and becoming one of our most productive SKUs in the period. We are focused on the improved performance of the Classics tier, and confident the launch of the brand's new consumer platform and packaging in H1 fiscal 2024 will reinforce our belief in this important brand tier within the 19 Crimes franchise.

We have launched two new brands in the $20-$25 price point, currently a significant gap in our portfolio and a growing segment of the wine category in the United States. Lyric, focused on the attractive Pinot Noir opportunity, and Tapestry, good red designed to appeal to the new luxury consumers. These wines will be on shelf and in restaurants starting Q1 fiscal 2024. We continue to make progress against our strategic priorities in the Americas business, and we are confident in our execution ability for fiscal 2024 and beyond. Thank you. I'll now hand over to Pete Nielsen in Melbourne.

Pete Nielsen
Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Ben, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report TPB's results for fiscal 2023, a period where we continued to see our priority brand portfolio build great momentum across our key markets, and we made significant steps towards setting our business for the future. Volume and NSR declined 10% and 5%, respectively, driven primarily by a decline in commercial volumes, most notably in the U.K. and Australia, reflecting the continuation of softening category trends for wine below AUD 10. This was partly offset by strong performance in Southeast Asia, benefiting from our significant distribution growth over the past year and the continued momentum for 19 Crimes, which grew revenue by 8% across TPB geographies.

NSR per case increased 6%, reflecting the benefit of price increases across select brands and continued portfolio premiumization, with the premium and luxury portfolios now contributing 61% of divisional NSR, up from 58% this time last year. COGS per case increased, driven by a portfolio mix shift and partly offset by benefits from the supply chain optimization program. Cost of doing business improved 3% and included an AUD 6 million gain on the sale of assets in Australia in the first half and the prioritization of brand investment. As a result, EBIT increased 4% to AUD 82 million, with EBIT margin improving to 10.4%. Turning to some execution highlights. Category-leading innovation is key to us achieving our TPB ambition of bringing the pleasure of premium wine to more people on more occasions.

It is imperative that we continually innovate our portfolio to meet the needs of consumers now and their needs into the future. In F twenty-three, our innovation highlights included our partnerships and campaigns with the Australian Open, Sydney WorldPride, the UFC in Asia, and our 19 Crimes campaign in the U.K., taking both Squealing Pig and 19 Crimes to more consumers than ever before through bold and innovative campaigns. A disruptive 19 Crimes Obedience Gets You Nowhere campaign in the U.K. during the King's coronation received a lot of attention from U.K. consumers and was a key contributor to the strong performance of 19 Crimes in EMEA, where NSR was up 10% in F twenty-three. We also continued our track record of introducing innovative new products to the wine category.

A highlight being the introduction of our mid-strength category with the launch of Pepperjack Mid Strength Shiraz, a mid-strength wine that, true to its campaign tagline, "Really doesn't taste like 1." We also made pleasing progress in taking our priority brands global and growing in new markets and channels. Wynns continued to grow its presence in luxury channels. We have consolidated both BV's Georges de Latour and Wynns John Riddoch under the 1 courtier, Vin Excellence, who is best placed to expand these great wines to a network of international fine wine buyers and collectors in over 100 countries through the internationally renowned fine wine marketplace, La Place de Bordeaux. The premium portfolio continued its global distribution expansion, and a highlight this year was the strong depletions growth in Asia across all of our priority brands, with Malaysia and Thailand being key contributors to this growth.

These are just a few of our execution highlights for for the last financial year. We have some exciting plans underway for F 2024 and remain very confident in the health and outlook for our core portfolio of brands that we know consumers love. With the business now structured the right way for us to continue to premiumize, I'm confident we can continue to grow and improve our margin over time. Thanks. I'll now hand back to Tim.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Pete. Have you heard from the team now, it's, it has been another great year of, of progress, really, for each of our brand portfolio divisions towards each of their strategic priorities, which remain unchanged going into F 2024, with execution, very clear, for each of the teams. You know, across TWE, again, consistency with what we're looking to execute. It will continue to leverage our strengths and capabilities globally and make the progress on our key organization-wide priorities you see on the screen and on the presentation. Elevating our culture and growing our talent, and our people are our most important asset. Progressing our investment in technology that unlocks long-term opportunities, great progress there. Pursuing category-leading innovation-...

which we've talked about a lot already today, and also pursuing complementary inorganic M&A that will enhance our brand and asset portfolio and continue, as always, to drive towards the sustainability commitments that I outlined. To summarize, F 2023, I'd characterize as a really important year for TWE, where we adapted and responded to deliver the performance we're pretty proud in outlining today. We look back at the year and recognize that we delivered earnings and margin growth whilst navigating the ever-changing consumer and the tightening global economic environment. Penfolds continues to go from strength to strength, building distribution, engaging new consumers, and delivering outstanding financial results. Our U.S. luxury business continues to build on its great platform, delivering distribution growth, direct-to-consumer growth, and price rises in a year of constrained wine availability.

Our premium portfolio has outperformed the market globally, yeah, led by strong brands, leading brands. We also have taken the proactive steps that will strengthen our TPB operating model and broader business and our supply chain for the future. With that said, and as a result, we enter F 2024 with even greater confidence in, in our strategy, our premiumization strategy, greater confidence in the strength of our diversified business, and our ability as a team to seize and deliver on the opportunities that are before us in the year ahead. Financially, you know, we expect the year ahead to support our long-term financial objective, which remains consistent as well, which is to deliver sustainable top-line growth year in, year out, and high single-digit average earnings growth, with a group EBIT margin target of 25%, and then we work out where we go from there.

With that said, that's the presentation and commentary. I will now hand over to the operator to open it up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star two. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up the headset to ask your question. Your first question comes from Craig Woolford from MST Marquee. Please go ahead.

Craig Woolford
Senior Analyst, MST Marquee

Morning, Tim and, and team. I might ask about the, the cash flow, if I can. Obviously, the FY 2023, the second half ended up a bit lower, and you've explained some of the timing issues. I'd just like to clarify, if it is timing, do you expect it to be well above 90% in FY 2024? In other words, you know, a period of hopefully normalising. Two parts, other parts to it. Why were the sales in May and June? I noticed you used some debtor funding this year for, receivables. Can you explain the rationale on that one as well? Thanks.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Craig. Matt here. Thanks for your question. Look, the cash conversion, you know, was below our target, and as you've picked up there, was primarily related to the timing of sales. Hopefully, I gave a little bit of clarity that the timing of those sales, particularly in Asia, had an impact of around about 10% on cash conversion. You know, if I, if I go a little bit deeper on sort of on why that was, many of you will know that, particularly in Asia, we operate on largely a quarterly buying cycle, and that's over a number of years, that's been the case. We have a very disciplined way in which we engage with our customers, ensuring that we've got, you know, insight to depletions, inventory levels.

That's been a process that we've had for a long period of time and served us very well in maintaining a really strong business there for the Penfolds brand. There is no overarching trend here that gives us concern. Each customer circumstance is different. Whether it be shipping patterns and other brands that they sell, we have really strong partners, really strong players who help us, you know, grow the brand in that market. That disciplined approach, you know, is a strength of ours, and, you know, if that results in some shipments moving from March to April or from April to May, the normal credit terms means that that's gonna put some pressure on the cash conversion. Whilst not an excuse for missing the target, I consider that a positive reason and a positive factor of how we manage that business.

Hopefully, you know, in terms of understanding the, the strength of that business, you know, we've delivered, you know, half on half and half on half, and year after year, and Penfolds delivered that growth. Some of the data that Tom's shared with you, not just last year, but this year, the growing availability and distribution gives us confidence in the strength of our partners, and that brand. I hope, I hope that sort of gives you a, a context that we, we don't see this as a challenge. It, it, you know, it, it's a shame that we missed that target, but certainly for a positive reason in terms of the growth of the brand.

Craig Woolford
Senior Analyst, MST Marquee

Just to clarify that receivables funding decision?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, I mean, it was relatively minor. I think it was about $20 million, which in the broad case of our balance sheet, probably isn't that significant. Generally, you know, I think when we've done this before, we've done it in previous years, you know, where, where the credit quality of those customers, you know, allows us to get a cost of funds benefit, it still represents an advantage for us and the right financial decision, not a, not a big factor in our cash conversion.

Craig Woolford
Senior Analyst, MST Marquee

Okay. Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Next question comes from Michael Simotas from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Michael Simotas
Managing Director, Jefferies

Good morning, everyone. The first question from me is on the outlook into FY 2024. Firstly, just a clarification. Tim, I think you just made the comment right at the end of your prepared remarks that FY 2024 will support the long-term financial objective. Does that mean you're expecting to deliver growth broadly in line with that long-term objective of high single-digit? What do you need to do to deliver that growth? Is that contingent on a change in the China regime or a China... change in the China tariff regime? How important is the 19 Crimes relaunch to that as well?

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, sure. Hi, Michael. Thanks for that. You are correct in how I, how I said that statement at the end, an important one to pick up, so thanks for asking the question. I think your interpretation of it's, you know, is pretty well right. How we're going to do that is continuation of Penfolds trajectory. If you roll that through, that's going to continue. Yeah, we expect top-line growth in the U.S. this year, some from luxury, but also improvement in the premium portfolio. You look at sort of where we sit versus the category and some of the category trends over the last 13 weeks, that's certainly not a heroic assumption. We expect more improvement on 19 Crimes in the second half versus the first half, just on the back of inventory transition.

New pack, you know, takes a few months to get through. Then once we have that on shelf in the U.S. in particular, you know, the brand investment will really kick in from that point of view. We've got, yeah, expectations on that, but certainly not overly significant expectations, like we've talked about in the past. I think with TPB, yeah, continued top-line strong performance on premium and luxury, which will be offset by commercial decline. You put that as a top-line perspective, you know, roll that through with the COGS guidance. I think that's the, that's the shape to think about each of the divisions as we go into F 2024. That's, that's what we plan to execute against.

Michael Simotas
Managing Director, Jefferies

Yeah, that's really helpful. Thank you. My second question is on Penfolds. I know you don't really talk about the word reallocation anymore, but if you sort of look at the amount of luxury wine that you're selling into markets outside of China right now, what is that as a percentage of what you used to sell into China? Can you just talk a little bit more about the phasing of Penfolds' second half versus first half? It sounds like you're going to hold some product back just in case you do have improved access to China. Is that the right way to think about it?

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, I think, it's not I don't like talking about reallocation, Michael, it's just that it's done. I, you know, I guess, I guess in the future, should things change with tariffs in China, we're going to be talking reallocation again, and that's cool. I look, I look forward to that day, actually. You know, in terms of our Asia, I think what we, what we explain about Asia and in terms of the build, it's really about constant continual distribution growth. Hopefully, the data points we've given you today and also in previous presentations just show half-on-half, incremental, demand-driven distribution growth is what's driving the performance. It's fairly aligned with what the financial performance is, you know, across most of the markets.

Yeah, it sounds like a really boring explanation for Penfolds, but continue to build distribution, bring new consumers into the category, bring new consumers into the brand, and they're consistently doing that. Tom might want to add to that, add to that as well, and I'll come back to the second part.

Tom King
Managing Director of Penfolds, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, no, you're right. The, the concept of reallocation is well and truly, well and truly done, and the results today are really reflective of, you know, the multifaceted, growth opportunities that we knew were there when we set up the division a couple of years ago. Some particular highlights from, from my perspective, released today is the growth in, in Australia. We knew this was a market that was going to take, a bit of time. We had some work to do to, win back some hearts and minds with the trade and with consumers and put the right resourcing and, and investment in place.

What we're seeing now is, you know, some really strong activity that's driving awareness and consideration at a consumer level, bringing new, younger consumers into the category for the first time with some of our activation that we're doing, and some really positive changes in our distribution. Whilst that listings number of 7% growth might seem small, it's on a significant base across the Australian market. You factor in the increase in demand, the increase in the availability, and that's helping to drive the top-line growth. Other markets around the world are in a slightly different stage in terms of their maturity. Asia continues to go from strength to strength.

I say that quite broadly because while we talk about some of the key markets in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, some of the more emerging growth markets for the long term are delivering great growth, great growth rates as well. It's a pretty similar playbook that we roll out across, across the globe in terms of how we go about building that demand and also that availability.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, second question, Mike, on the first half, second half split. Yeah, as, as we've looked to plan out the year, and clearly, you know, where there's a, there's an option and there's potential, you know, that things change within the, the government interactions with China. Yet to us, it's prudent to give ourselves, you know, some flexibility, more towards the second half of the year to manage our Penfolds allocation, particularly the Bins and above, in a more strategic manner this year. It doesn't change the depletions plan. Over the year, depletions is consistent month in, month out, but it's more our shipment profile, you know, where we will look at this point in time, to give ourselves that option around, you know, shipping more in the second half versus the first half than we ordinarily would.

Just, just because the opportunity may exist, for us to, to reallocate some of that, some of that volume to different markets, you know, should things change within the China tariff scenario, which I think we're all aware of at the moment. That's, that's the logic behind it. You know, it's, We think it's quite a strategic way to run the business. What we, why we wanted to flag it today, you know, was because we don't want to get to the half and then surprise investors. You know, we will clearly give an update, most likely at the AGM, in terms of what our plans would be around it in a couple of months' time. We're sort of thinking through how we run the business over multiple periods and just flagging that today as, as what our plans are internally.

Operator

Next question comes from Tom Kierath from Barrenjoey. Please go ahead.

Tom Kierath
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Morning, guys. Thanks for the question. It sounds like Penfolds second half skewed, 19 Crimes second half skewed. I think you're lapping a gain on sale in the first half and AUD 30 million of Frank contribution in the first half. Is it fair to assume the first half will be down in EBIT, with the second half kind of catching up to get to that high single-digit number?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Hey, Tom, it's Matt here. Look, clearly, we haven't given a specific first half, second half across the group, but I think what you've, what you've touched on, one, one is a very strategic approach that we're taking to Penfolds, which will be for the benefit of the long term. Across the rest of the business, you know, we think the trends are pretty consistent, and I think the gain on sale you referenced is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. Look, we're, we're clearly focused on top li- on top line growth, average earnings growth, and sort of driving that over the long term, and F 2024 supporting that, and we think we've got all the building blocks, blocks towards that.

I think that the most important sort of thing to call out today was around Penfolds and the strategic way in which we're managing that.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah. I, I'll just add, Tom, the, the 19 Crimes component of that, you know, when I referenced the second half, yeah, we'd expect it. It's where the transition to new pack will have happened in the U.S. more than just not with the other markets. We expect the other markets, you know, to be pretty consistent over the course of the year with their growth profile. When you sort of combine that all together, you know, around the 19 Crimes brand, I think, yeah, it'll add up to relative consistency with a slight increase in expectation in the second half, but not heavily weighted.

Tom Kierath
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Yep. Yep, no, I got it. The, the second one I wanted to ask is just on depletions versus shipments in Americas. I, I, I see that you've said depletions are ahead by 600,000 cases versus shipments, excluding new products that you've launched. I just wondered if you could give us a number, like an all-in number, like, so, you know, not excluding NPD, which I know is pretty big. I guess the reason I ask is, it just seems like there's a whole heap of stock that distributors and retailers have got, and they're kind of destocking, and, you know, that's been happening for a little while now, but just want to understand where exactly you are in that kind of destocking position over in Americas.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Hey, Tom. Sure. I, I, I might lead off, and I think Tim, Tim can also give some context on, on the U.S. market. Yeah, the 600,000 is probably the most important one. I think the degree, the degree of NPD in that's relatively relatively small. I wouldn't worry about it. We've tried to give the, the, the number that, that matters the most. I, I think you've touched on, on, on an important factor around the wider market in the US, and certainly that the... You know, we, we have seen across the industry, retailers, distributors, you know, look to manage their inventory levels more tightly.

You know, we know that, you know, with rising interest rate costs and, you know, no longer the same degree of tighter supply chains in that market, that's been a proactive piece of work that they've done, and that's, you know, similar to Treasury Wine Estates and other customers as well. We continue to be laser-focused on depletions as well. We also shouldn't shy away from the fact that our performance of the premium portfolio was below expectations as well, so that has played a role in the degree of that of some of that destocking as well. Fundamentally, that is a part, and that's a driver of the results in the fiscal 2023.

I don't know, Tim, if you wanted to add more on the, the wider U.S. market?

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

No, I think you've explained it well, Tom. I just wanted to give you a compliment, actually, which is not something I always do, is the note you wrote around I guess, the state of U.S. distributors and inventory around, you know, wine, spirits, and broader alcohol, I think was pretty well, pretty well bang on, you know, from that perspective. I think you've got the drivers right, and all the rest of it that you had in that note. I do wish we'd seen a spike, you know, a few months back than what it seems the analysis shows others have, which we didn't.

You know, your, your point around, yeah, distributors really driving their inventory and the, particularly the cost of their, their inventory and the cost of capital required to maintain their inventory is a real issue, and is real across the, the whole, you know, U.S., state of them, all U.S. states at the moment. We think going forward, you know, the depletions will be much closer to shipments. You know, with our plans, we've got aligned with our key distributors, particularly, you know, BBG and RNDC are our two biggest partners, you know, across that market. But yeah, we'll, we'll manage that fairly closely, but you wouldn't expect to see such a disparity going forward.

Tom Kierath
Founding Principal, Barrenjoey

Thanks, guys. Appreciate those thoughts, Tim. Cheers.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Compliment. Cheers.

Operator

Your next question comes from Shaun Cousins, from UBS. Please go ahead.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Thanks. Good morning. Maybe just a question regarding the cost savings that come out of the Premium Brands operating model that'd be above the cash costs of AUD 30 million. When are they expected to be received? Will any be received in fiscal 2024, and how will they be used to achieve the Premium Brands EBIT margin expansion target, or will some need to be used to offset, say, some operating deleverages, volumes moderating TPB, please?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Sure. I would say, Shaun, the, the margin target that we've given is all-in. It includes, you know, the degree to which there is a deleverage and, you know, with reduced portfolio volumes, and it also includes the benefits of that program, but not to also ignore the opportunity for incremental premiumization that Peter and the team have been doing. I'll start with that, that more macro. The specific program, with the benefits, we are expecting a full run rate of that by fiscal 2024. A very short payback on that piece of work, particularly on the cash cost side of it. You'll start to see that run rate in the expectations. We've essentially...

It's, it's important to highlight the point that we made is the impact of that is mitigating incremental costs that we're seeing either through lower portfolio volumes or increased, you know, input cost to cost of goods. Within the year for fiscal 2024, we'll deliver those benefits, but it is, to an extent, a mitigation of the challenges we've seen.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Do you think any will be net? Do you think you'll actually generate net savings?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

A s in savings over and above?

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Yes, please.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

At this stage, we'll update if we believe we're going to deliver more than that. You know, at this stage, we feel comfortable giving that it's going to be broadly in line or above the $30 million.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Okay. Thank you. My second question is just around the plans for 19 Crimes Classic. Can you just talk a bit about the confidence in the label relaunch? How the old label, product is being cleared without damaging the long-term health of the brand, especially, I guess there's been evidence in market of second-tier SKUs being sold at very low prices. Just, I guess maybe how you're managing clearing old product without damaging brand health and, ultimately without impeding the success of the 19 Crimes Classic relaunch, please.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

I'll, I'll kick it off, and then, I'm sure Ben will wanna add to this as we go. You know, I think the, we've got a very clear plan around the, the execution of the, of the new platform, the new pack. Yeah, you move through inventory over that period of time. I think you've seen in the market over there as well, I think we've got the balance right now between, you know, aggressive promotional activity to drive volume, get it into consumers' hands, you know, as well as getting the balance of what the brand, the brand needs to stand for, the brand health, which is, which is pretty strong still. The plans the guys have implemented over the last quarter give us more confidence that we've got that right.

You know, I think it takes that period of time, state by state in the U.S., where it does, you know, require new pack before we'll go with the big investments. Yeah, you'll see, small examples. I'm sure you've seen them, we've seen them, everyone's seen bits and pieces where, you know, the pricing is not within our strategy, you know, and we deal with it as we go, and we, you know, we welcome you sending those through, you know, when you do, Shaun. Keep doing that, please. I think, yeah, from that point of view, yeah, there's a very clear plan, very clear strategy. Our distributors are very engaged in it, you know, going forward. You know, I think the one thing we've seen over the course of the year is the brand equity is still strong. It's still outperforming the market.

You know, probably if you go back to our March Investor Day, we probably beat ourselves up a bit around, you know, our performance versus our internal plans, but we're still beating market, and we've got a lot of pretty exciting platform to come. Yeah, we're feeling good about it. No question around that, and it's, you know, in all markets around the world. Ben, do you want to add to that?

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, yeah, sure. I, I think, look, just a couple of builds to that, as Tim said, it's being very tightly managed and it goes beyond the label. The label is a key component, and the upgrade and the consumer testing we've done, no doubt, we're excited to have that hit the shelves. In addition to that, we're launching a, you know, a pretty exciting new campaign for that. We've also learned a lot over the past six months, just around our pricing management, our programming activity, our engagement with our retailers, and we've seen some positive results on that, particularly on the Classics tier. You know, we look at it as an all-in program, you know, across the 19 Crimes franchise.

Then the last component of that, which I think we've done a particularly good job of over the past period of time, is our innovation platform. You know, in addition to the new label launch, we're also going to be introducing new innovations, certainly as we come into the Halloween period. You know, there's a lot to look forward to, and as Tim said, and I concur, it's being very tightly managed in terms of the transition.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Fantastic. Thanks, Ben. Thanks, Tim. Thanks, Matt.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Appreciate it, Shaun. I had more to give you.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Fire away, Tim.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, no, I know, 'cause you, you look at this closely, and a number of you on the call look at it closely as the IRI data as well, and you'll see over the last 13 weeks, yeah, the average price for 19 Crimes has reduced, but only marginally, you know, when you look at it right across the category. On average, across all retail channels, across the wholesale, it's, it's certainly in line with our plan. We had planned, you know, to be more aggressive with the, with the promotional activity, you know, to get on the end caps, to get it in consumers' hands, and it is working. I think from a...

you look at that data there as well, the, the gap from where we were 13 weeks ago, 26 weeks ago, while slightly down in price, is still solidly in that mid-$10 range across the board. That's, that also is a pretty good guide of what we're doing with the brand.

Shaun Cousins
Executive Director, UBS

Fantastic. Thanks, Tim. Thanks for the extra color.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Thanks, Shaun.

Operator

Your next question comes from David Errington from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

David Errington
Analyst, Bank of America

Morning, Tim. Look, I apologize up front if I come across in any way rude, but I want to talk about your U.S. business. Now, I know that there's been a lot of rhetoric and there's a lot of talk, and you guys have really sold it today that it's a pretty good result. When I look at the actual numbers and the return that you're generating on your investment, not let alone your return on your effort, you dropped 1.2 million cases in the second half. Your EBIT on a constant currency basis, if you strip out Frank Family, went backwards AUD 20 million.

You're guiding us in the market that it's probably going to be down another AUD 20 million this year because we've highlighted that your EBIT margin is expected to be in the range of 22%-23%, when this year it was 25%. That's obviously because there's another range here. I mean, there's always an excuse coming, Tim, that's either the COGS this year or it was the bushfires three years ago. I just don't understand. I just don't get your strategy in the U.S., where every year your EBIT seems to go backwards by 20 year, AUD 20 million, and it's likely to go backwards another AUD 20 million on an underlying basis. In fact, on a... I think you said to Michael that your revenue would be slightly up, but your margin's going to be down over 200 basis points. I mean, that's a pretty big downgrade.

You've downgraded the market to, that your EBIT's gonna be about AUD 180 million. I don't think anyone's picked that up yet. What, what's the go in the U.S., Tim? I mean, what is the go? The EBIT's just falling away, and it's taking away some of the great things that you're looking to do in Penfolds. Can you give us a bit of an overview of the U.S., please? Why you're still there? On the numbers today, you guys are going backwards at a very rate, fast rate, and if your second half launch of 19 Crimes doesn't work, well, I don't know what plan C or D will be. Can you give us a bit of an update? Maybe Ben wants to kick in, because I'm pretty disappointed with the Americas performance today.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, morning, morning, Dave. Morning to you as well. Yes, of course, I can. One thing I would say is that if, if you think my statements have guided to a further downgrade in the U.S. from an EBIT point of view, that was not my intention for fiscal 2024. That's, I guess, point one. To, to go back to the, the macro-

David Errington
Analyst, Bank of America

Tim, that's what it says. Tim, that's what it says in the bottom bullet point, FY 2024 margin expected to be in the range of 22%-23%, and this year's margin was 24.8%. You basically said that you're hopeful of getting slightly higher sales because you're still constrained. That means that EBIT next year is gonna be lower than this year. Can you explain why that's not the case?

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

We expect to have top-line growth through the year, and yes, the margin will, through the mix, will, will drop back 1 point, we think. We are not saying, and I'm not saying that we expect EBIT to go backwards year -on -year. That's, that's, that's the point there. I think from the U.S. business, more broadly, I actually have greater belief in the health of that business than I did 12 months ago, and I fully understand you disagree with me, and that's, and that, that's the good conversation we're about to have. You know, I think if you look at our luxury portfolio, it's not an excuse. We've called it out for years that coming into this year, we had less luxury wine to sell. What do you do when you have less luxury wine to sell?

You focus on where you want to build distribution, and you improve the margin structure of that business through price increases, and we've done both of those. Yeah, we feel like the platform for luxury growth, less so in 2024. We'll see growth in 2024, but certainly into 2025, because we've got a lot more wine coming online to sell, and so you have to have the distribution right and your margin structure right. It's in better shape, you know, for those future years. From a premium portfolio point of view, again, we're outperforming the market. You know, when it comes to 19 Crimes, Matua is significantly outperforming the market. Yeah, we've got a 1 million case brand this year on our hands.

It will end up being a 1 million case brand for Matua across its core portfolio, as well as its innovation, which gives us 2 imported brands, greater than 1 million cases in the U.S. market, which will grow going forward as well. You think about the 2 strengths that gives us. What we've also learnt this year, though, is that we're not playing strong enough in the price points between $15-$35, $35-$40. Good top end, very happy where that's going. Couple of big brands that are driving premium growth for us into the future, but we need more, and you see some of the innovation that we've launched there today. I think from a business health point of view, yeah, I think it hasn't delivered the stellar, you know, EBIT growth.

You, you mentioned, I think, that, you know, we year -on -year, we dropped. You know, for, for 2 years there, we grew substantially, you know, through innovation, through our top line and through EBIT. This year, we have not. We're not hiding from that, but what I'm explaining is the reasons I believe, and the question you asked me, around what gives me confidence and belief in that business, and I have it. You know, and I think the team there, you know, through adapting this year and the way they've responded, you know, is, is pretty impressive. That's, that's my belief, Dave.

David Errington
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, but you're only 40% luxury premium, Tim. How are you gonna offset that? Look, I, I get it, and maybe we take it offline, but jeez, you've been talking up the U.S. for a long time now. I mean, we're talking 20 years. It's never delivered. I don't know when you'll ever concede it will, but anyway, I suppose we can take that offline. The inventory, what worries-

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Just one point there. We're, we're 40% is luxury. Yeah, I think it's 94% of the business is luxury and premium. Yeah, the majority of that business is now luxury and premium. We're essentially out of the commercial wine category.

David Errington
Analyst, Bank of America

Are you saying it's a good result this year, Tim, the EBIT? Don't forget, the last 2 years, it's really been a COVID recovery. I mean, really, you can't say that you've been growing. I mean, if you look at your earnings, say, 3, 4 years ago, look through COVID, you're still backwards. I'm not... Anyway, I suppose I've made my point. On the, on the inventory, I'm really concerned, if you could explain, the big increase in the premium side. If you look at the numbers, you've increased premium by about AUD 100 million this year, and that's when, effectively, if I look at the inventory, total premium's gone up to AUD 737 from AUD 637. Then my concern is, particularly non-current inventory, that's where there's a massive excess supply of B and C grade red.

What, what's going on in that? Is that a worry going forward? I think Matt said that you had plans to sell that through. What are you gonna do with that? Because that, to me, is a real concern that that's, that, that's the real area that you're in oversupply glut. That's where the glut is.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah.

David Errington
Analyst, Bank of America

You know, are we going to have an inventory write-down on this or what?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Hey, David, it's Matt here. No, I think we're in really good shape there. I think the wo- the work that the team has done over multiple vintages has got us in good stead. Certainly, you are seeing an increase there based on the, the changes in the outlook for the premium portfolio. You know, when you're talking C grade, you know, it's a, it's a highly flexible grade of grape that we can manage, and we've got plans to manage that already in place as we look forward to vintage 2024. Also the sales plans that the teams have in place. We have, we have very low risk in that space, you know, and we have a, a way to manage that.

You know, we've done a great job over the last period of time to the point where, you know, rebalancing the luxury, so in your word, the B and the A. You know, that, that's in great shape now in terms of balance, and at an industry level, there is challenge at the, at the commercial, sort of the D and E. That's something the industry is managing through. Certainly we feel like we've got, you know, our, our inventory in a good position and certainly within our control, and we've had good experience in this. I, I also call out, you know, we've, we've, you know, over a number of years, we've taken a very conservative approach to the way that we value inventory.

When it comes to, you know, if there are provisions are needed, we've held conservative provisions for a long period of time. In our world, we've got the protection there if things were to, to move against us.

Operator

The next question comes from Bryan Raymond, from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Bryan Raymond
Executive Director and Lead Consumer Analyst, JPMorgan Securities Australia

Thanks, guys. Just on, back on the Americas, just wanting to understand the pricing movement into FY 2024. You've obviously taken a fair bit in 2023. Just want to understand if there's incremental price rises coming through, given ongoing supply constraints, or if there's just annualisation of existing price rises you've already made, or if we're, we should be expecting limited movement on price into 2024?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

At a macro level, Bryan, I think, consistency is probably the way to think about it. There will be parts and pockets in the luxury portfolio where our pricing roadmap, where we will take some pricing, but we've did a lot of the work in fiscal 23. Certainly, you know, building off the strength of some of our brands, there's certainly opportunities in brands like Beaulieu Vineyard, with the accolades it's getting. You know, they are longer-term plans. The other thing you'll, you know, you'll start to see is that the strength of pricing we've done around Matua, will continue, not with increased prices, but you'll get the run rate of that.

Then, you know, I think Tim talked about before the, the increased investment in feature and display, and the way we manage that spend within the 19 Crimes portfolio will also be a factor. I think at the macro level, assuming an ongoing run rate is the way to think about it.

Bryan Raymond
Executive Director and Lead Consumer Analyst, JPMorgan Securities Australia

Right. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. Then just on the guidance for what now appears to be high single-digit growth at a group level and 45% Penfolds margin, just want to confirm, should the China opportunity present itself, would that all be incremental around, I would assume, NSR per case, and margin to the, to those, or is that sort of somewhat built into your existing guidance?

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, There is no incremental China tariff change built into any of the statements, guidance, or plans that we have this year, Matt. That's, that would all be incremental.

Bryan Raymond
Executive Director and Lead Consumer Analyst, JPMorgan Securities Australia

Okay, great. Then just a final one for me is just on the longer term, just thinking about the ability for you to increase volumes in China, should that opportunity present itself? Clear this is an issue for, you know, maybe three, four years' time in terms of the financial results, but just trying to understand the ability for you guys to leverage increased volume of luxury grapes for your Bin and Icon ranges out of the key growing regions. How agriculturally constrained are you? Is that something that you would see as something where you could drive volume meaningfully, or is it more gonna be just about pricing realization and margin accretion?

Tom King
Managing Director of Penfolds, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, Bryan, it's, it's Tom King here. Maybe I'll, I'll take this one and let Tim Ford, Tim Ford jump in. Look, obviously, it's still pretty early days. We're obviously encouraged by the, the recent strengthening in relations, and as we should do, we've been doing some scenario planning around what this could potentially mean for us in the future. You know, initially, the opportunity is largely gonna be around how we optimize our, our allocations and, you know, revenue management across the, the Penfolds collection. We're gonna be looking to, to secure incremental sourcing from, from V 24 onwards.

The beauty of the model that we've developed over the last few years in terms of sourcing from different countries of origins, is that we've got multiple now platforms to increase our sourcing and grow our volume at the luxury and hopefully Icon level as well. The opportunity is there. We've been encouraged by, you know, the first releases that we've had from France and now from China. You know, the most recent vintage in France was very encouraging for us in terms of the scale of what we were able to produce, so we're feeling pretty excited around the potential for what would be a genuine multi-country of origin play.

You know, if things do change at the moment, you know, there's certain things that won't change in our strategy for Penfolds as it comes to China. We'll continue to engage closely with the local wine industry and look to be a much more significant player in that industry off the back of our trial winemaking to date. The multi-country of origin portfolio growth strategy will be maintained and will continue to grow and focus on markets around the world. We've had some really great progress over the last two years. We've got a very balanced business now when it comes to our diversification from a demand perspective around the globe.

We will, as we said, I think 6 months ago, be looking to reallocate a portion of our Penfolds luxury and Icon tiers, from the Australian collection to, to China, if things do, do change. Yes, there is opportunity for us to, to scale the portfolio, but it will take time.

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

There you go. You now, you now know our whole strategy around, what we're gonna do. It's very, very, very clear and very multifaceted. It's, yeah, let's see.

Bryan Raymond
Executive Director and Lead Consumer Analyst, JPMorgan Securities Australia

Absolutely. Good luck with it. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Your next question comes from Lisa Deng from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Lisa Deng
Consumer Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi, guys. Two questions from me, mainly on Penfolds. One is a follow-up on China. I think last year you guys gave us the number that mainland China was about AUD 22 million-AUD 23 million in revenue and just break even. I did some back-of-the-envelope, sort of calc on this global, sorry, the global launch of One by Penfolds, 100 cases or 100,000 cases. You know, that would be over AUD 20 million by my calculation. Can you give us an update on what China was in FY 2023, please? Both revenue and profit, if you will, if you can.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Hi, Lisa. It's Matt here. I will say it's not something we plan to continue to share. It was certainly useful in the past as we were making that transition so that people understood it. As a broader comment, I would say that the plan is to continue to support our base and investment in China with the multi-country of origin, and it's not gonna be a big profit driver for us as an individual market. It's around retention there, but we don't intend to continue to share sort of the specific China market metrics.

Lisa Deng
Consumer Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Got it. A second follow-up to that, I guess, is, you know, the, the implied, sort of, envelope of growth for Asia Penfolds, because I don't know if I'm right, but if I get to somewhere close to a $45 million-$50 million sales for China this year, FY 2023, and the backed-out sales is closer to just over $400 million for Asia, but we've actually had very decent distribution growth, as you've shown on page 24. Does that mean that the sales per point of distribution has actually been down? I just wanted to understand sort of that sales per point of distribution or the reorder or repeat orders from that expanded distribution footprint for the rest of Asia. Thank you.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

It may be something we need to take offline, and I think applying a mature market back, calculation around points of distribution, et cetera, in the Asian market is gonna be very difficult, you know, given the availability of data and that sort of thing. I think the way to understand. The way that we're hoping people understand it is that, you know, we are building distribution and growth in each of these markets, and, you know, we've been successful in that with double-digit distribution, whether it be listings, whether it be outlets. That's the path that we lay out for growth, and we've seen in last year's presentation, the runway that lays ahead of us, and we have multiple years of growth that we can do that.

We will continue to build out distribution, point of distribution at each of those over multiple years. You know, linking that back to rate of sale in markets, some of those emerging markets, is gonna be a little bit difficult.

Operator

The next question comes from Richard Barwick from CLSA. Please go ahead.

Richard Barwick
Head Of Research, CLSA

Good morning, guys. I've got a question around the Penfolds target margin. You've, you've upped that to 45% from the previous target of 40%-45%. I guess it's following on from Lisa's question a little bit. Can you talk to why that increase? I'm particularly interested in the context of One by Penfolds, which I'd imagine would be lower margin, and that should be a driver, excuse me, of volume growth over the next couple of years. Just how that's fitting into that expectation of a higher sustained Penfolds margin.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Sure, Richard. I'd say the previous target of 40%-45% is probably the one metric we've never hit. We've always done pretty, you know, been unsuccessful in delivering a lower margin on the Penfolds business, is probably where I'd start. I, I think, I think to that point, you know, the growth of premium was one of the factors, as well as potential investments, right? We, we're now in a position where, you know, we've got the right level of investment for Penfolds to grow in multiple markets, so we don't see that as a major driver of, of pulling the margin down. Secondly, you know, We have an, you know, an outlook around the growth in premium and the margin, that we will get that, and by premium, you, the Koonunga Hill, Max's, and the new One by Penfolds.

I think the way you should interpret it, interpret that is, we, we have, you know, good growth ambitions for those, those parts of the portfolio. We also have good ambition and growth for their Bins and Icons and the upper level, and that's what's giving us the confidence now, as we look out of our future plans, of a margin around about that 45% is sustainable going forward.

Tom King
Managing Director of Penfolds, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah. I'll just add to that.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Okay, Matt.

Tom King
Managing Director of Penfolds, Treasury Wine Estates

Sorry, Richard, just, just a bit more context on, on One by Penfolds. I think it's, it's important to remember the balance here that we've got around driving volume on that, but also the strategic role that that plays within the portfolio, and how it's been positioned now for a very new consumer segment that we're targeting for the first time. Ultimately, over the long term, the intent would be, and the ambition is to, to bring those new consumers into Penfolds, maybe into wine for the first time, and see them over time, enjoy more, more of the luxury wines through the, through the collection. It is a, you know, the volume is, is there as an ambition, but much more strategically, a role in bringing new consumers in to, to enjoy luxury wines.

Richard Barwick
Head Of Research, CLSA

I think you talked at the strategy day of a 300,000 case target for One by Penfolds?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yep.

Richard Barwick
Head Of Research, CLSA

Is that still in place? I mean, I was surprised to see you deliver 100,000 cases already just in China.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yep, that's still in target.

Richard Barwick
Head Of Research, CLSA

Okay, just other question on the U.S. margins, if I could. Obviously guiding down in FY 2024, there's a, I guess there's a bunch of reasons there, but the, as an offset, you called out direct-to-consumer up, sorry, up 10% in revenue in FY 2023. Obviously a strong outcome, and as you pointed out, Tim, that's a, it's a very high margin channel. What are your expectations for direct-to-consumer? I would have thought we'd see more recovery there, and that would have been a real positive tailwind for U.S. margins, and yet you are guiding it for overall margins to be backwards.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, I think that's one of the one of the increased components, I guess, that we when we look at our total picture for 2024, you know, we continue to, yeah, see our sales perform better in the D2C business than, than our competitors in that market as well. As you build up the total picture of, you know, luxury portfolio, premium portfolio, including the investment behind driving that, plus the D2C business, that, that mix, if you like, within that, yeah, we still see D2C continuing to grow. No, no doubt about that. You know, we I don't think it is gonna take another step up in terms of recovery, just continuing to outperform others is the way we look at that business.

Operator

Your next question comes from Ben Gilbert, from Jarden. Please go ahead.

Ben Gilbert
Head Of Research, Jarden

Hi, morning, all. Just a couple, two questions for me. Just firstly on Penfolds, just trying to sort of put together everything sort of talked about on the call. The comments for distribution and volume growth to remain consistent, mean, do you think you can still do that sort of mid-to-low teens? Sorry, that high-to-single-digit volume, with the NSR per case type growth. Just on that, is it with the second half SKUs, is this sort of by design or by your choice, or like you just want to be prepared for China?

I just want to confirm that because I, I suppose you're still seeing strong demand, and what's the risk you start to put some of these markets you've spent a lot of time in, such as Australia, offside, if you start shorting the market or giving less volume than they might like? 'Cause there's just some talk around sort of smaller sales forces, et cetera, in Australia, and concerns that if China does reopen, you might put the, some of the key customers to the back burner again.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Hey, Ben. Well, the, the first half, second half is purely around shipment volume, and we've got a very clear line of sight on depletions plans and inventory, so we're not gonna short market, so to speak. That means the product's not gonna be available to continue that distribution growth. It's quite a, quite a detailed and clear plan we've got on that front. Yeah, we will just, yeah, monitor what we allocate over the next four to five months in particular, yeah, which might, which might see us. In essence, what you're seeing is, you know, we may actually ship more in the second half, you know, to different markets, but we're not going to, you know, pull back from the growth we've seen in these other key priority markets.

You know, in terms of, we've said this to our Australian customer base as well, you know, Australia will continue to be an important market for us going forward. You know, if there is the odd, the odd comment that may exist out there, then that's not fact-based. That's certainly nothing we're planning to do in terms of, you know, continuing to build what is a real, you know, strength here in this market now, 'cause we've worked pretty hard in the last three years, in particular, to start to see the fruits of that pay off. I know Tom and the team, you know, are very focused on, on ensuring that this market continues to be, you know, a growth engine for Penfolds going forward.

There'll be natural skepticism, I guess, you know, from some, particularly independent owners out there, but that's, that's not gonna happen.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Ben, I might just also to the first part of your question around. The, that, that top line growth expectation for Penfolds as a division is expected to support our growth at a total company. We do expect we're gonna be looking for similar trends in Penfolds off the back of the incremental distribution and opportunity that sits there. Also, that should support the wider group. Then just to reiterate the point that Tim sort of made around the ANZ business, it's been a real success this year and calling out second half 2023 versus second half 2024 in ANZ, it's up 35%. It's a really strong market.

It's not one that we're certainly walking away from, and I think that's a, that's a you know, it's, it's starting to show the success of building, building up what that team has delivered.

Ben Gilbert
Head Of Research, Jarden

Great, thanks. Just second one for me. Just could you talk through why the COGS commentary's changed so materially over the last 12 months? Obviously, at one point, it was expected to be a pretty material tailwind, sort of AUD 50 million+ into 2024, but it's sort of now expected to be flat on a like-to-like basis. I appreciate you've got things like glass costs, et cetera, with energy, but, and the vintages, but obviously, commercial, which is this current vintage, is smaller now. We're talking obviously the last few years when costs should be down, plus in theory, you've also got some pretty material freight benefits, and to your point, you had 2 million case brands into the U.S., of which a decent chunk comes out of Australia and New Zealand. It just surprised me that we've sort of moved back to flat.

I would have thought we should still see some tailwinds on a like-for-like COGS basis.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, sure. Look. I'll clarify the language we had used for fiscal 2024, that we expected to see improvement. We never gave a specific number. Look, what I would say is, look, I'm really proud of the work that the team has done over multiple years to manage costs. You know, that work has been significant, and, you know, to deliver flat COGS in the current environment is one that we think should be recognized as an achievement. Now, the benefits that we talked about before that we expected are coming through, whether that be the lower cost 2021, 2022 vintages, and the full run rate of our global supply chain optimization, the sort of AUD 90 million that we expect to come through, they are all still coming through.

However, we, we are yet to see meaningful changes in respect of logistics or energy and dry goods. Those are still challenges and, you know, we expect them to be. The newer challenges that we've sort of seen in the last six to nine months, which have emerged that are impacting cost of goods, would be around the lower volume outlook than our expectations. You know, that impacts production recoveries and costs, but also the, the vintage 23 in Australia was lower yielding, and that does put increased pressure on cost of goods. Now, that particularly, well, for our portfolio, but particularly for commercial wines.

The ability of the team to adapt to that, and address a position that was probably worse than we were looking at, I think is significant, and just reinforces the underlying strength we have to manage that. You know, we're, we're, we're very comfortable with the outlook, that that's a good outcome. It is slightly below where we'd like, but it reflects the flexibility the team's been able to, respond with.

Ben Gilbert
Head Of Research, Jarden

In fact, can I just follow up just quickly, one thing there. Just on the, the freight, do you think this is more a timing, it's just taking longer for some of the freight costs to normalize when you're coming out of sort of some of the ports in South Australia and New Zealand? Do you think those benefits will come? Was the COGS issue, was it around some of the disease stuff or winds, has that impacted as well, or it's more just, just vintage in, in South Australia?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, we continue to believe from a logistics perspective, it's generally timing related to Australia. At this stage, we're yet to see that come through, and the languages, they're still unwinding, yet to come. Sort of into fiscal 24, it's not one that we're prepared to put our hand up and say we expect that to come through. On vintage 23, look, overall, the vintage was down. Yeah, you're right, whether it be the weather or disease impacting parts of the industry or generally lower intake off the back of outlook for volumes, that has reduced the overall intake for the industry. Treasury Wine Estates included, which given, you know, a fixed asset base, infrastructure, et cetera, and COGS will increase the cost per case of vintage 23.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Not a bad overall thing for the industry.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

That's right.

Operator

Your next question comes from Phil Kimber, from E&P Capital. Please go ahead.

Phil Kimber
Analyst, E&P Capital

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one was on Treasury Premium Brands. With the revised mid-teen margin and, you know, just a little bit above 10% at the moment, the pathway to get there, does that require another sort of major move in terms of removing some of the commercial brands? Or is that pathway there based on, you know, the changes that you're, you're making in FY 2023 and into FY 2024?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah. Thanks, Phil. There's a couple of things. We've done the majority of the work we need to do around restructuring, and we feel like we're well set up for the shape of the business and the growth we want to drive in the future. There's really two key elements that are going to help us get to that, that number, which is a continuation of the growth in our premium portfolio with the, the work we're doing on our priority brands across all markets, but also the, the other elements of the premium portfolio within markets. Then secondly, is a, a continuation of the focus on innovation. We know there's an opportunity to unlock new occasions for consumers that wine's not currently participating in, and, and done well, can be done in a margin-accretive way for us as a, as a division.

We also expect to see a continuation of a decline in line with the market, across all markets for the commercial category, and the sum of those parts is what will, will get us to the outlook we, we have. There's, there's nothing that we don't have in our plan, that we need to get us to that number. The, the continuation of the trends and the focus on innovation is what will get us there.

Phil Kimber
Analyst, E&P Capital

Great. Thank you. My second question, and sorry, I know we've talked a lot about the U.S., but, you know, if I look at FY 2023 as a whole, EBIT in constant currency, flat, organic, down 10%. You've had a cracking result in Frank Family Vineyards. Should we think about that similar shape going forward in FY 2024, where you're talking about earnings growth that, you know, the organic business probably head backwards and another great result from Frank Family Vineyards? Is it more a case that, you know, those declines in the organic business are sort of rebasing now and, and, you know, so you won't have that drag again? I was just trying to broadly understand the shape.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah. No, I understand, Phil. Thanks, thanks for that, and more than happy to talk about the Americas business, and hopefully, hopefully, that's come across today. No, we, we don't expect it to be purely Frank Family led in, in FY 2024. You know, we know the wine we've got available on Stags, on BV, Beringer, on the other luxury brands as well. Yeah, it's, it would be a much more consistent luxury portfolio performance across those, given the wine availability. That's the plan. There'll be a bit, bit of incremental, you know, Frank Family Chardonnay, our first vintage kicks in. The first vintage since we acquired that business kicks in, in Q4, so there'll be a little bit of that.

That'll give us the start of a step up in Q4, but majority through F 2025, but it'll be consistent across the luxury portfolio.

Phil Kimber
Analyst, E&P Capital

Great, thanks.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

No problem.

Operator

Your next question comes from Sam Teeger, from Citi. Please go ahead.

Sam Teeger
Analyst, Citi

Hi, Tim. Hi, Matt. Excluding Cellar Doors, which grew NSR 10%, can you give us, some more insights into the general U.S. on-premise trends and how, how they've evolved over the last six months?

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Sure. Look, I, I think the, the way to think about that is how Tim described it before, which is continued improvement and growth. You know, certainly the trends of visitation are slowly improving, the, the trends of availability of staff to, to be able to open on more occasions in the U.S. market, are continuing.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Hey, Dollard, Dollard can jump into this one.

Matt Young
CFO, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

I f he wants to, from over there as well. Ben, did you want to give a bit more insight on the-?

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for certain. Look, we've seen certainly a stabilized environment with regards to the on-premise and, yeah, in, in consideration to our Cellar Door business and, and the performance there. We've seen a similar, similar result with our on-premise business in quality of distribution. That's what we're focused against in, with our luxury portfolio. We've actually been really pleased with the expansion of distribution for our luxury portfolio and been very focused on the right accounts across the country. The on-premise is a, is a very important component of our overall growth and how we think about growth and, and a very viable retail outlet as well. Yeah, I, I think the on-premise business as we see it, is strong.

We expect that it's going to continue to be strong, and particularly well aligned to where we're headed with our luxury portfolio.

Phil Kimber
Analyst, E&P Capital

All right. For the new 19 Crimes products in the Americas, what month will you or have you started booking sales to distributors, and when will it be on the shelves for consumers to buy?

Ben Dollard
President of Americas, Treasury Wine Estates

Yeah. We, we, there's not one answer to that question in regards to it's all going to start to appear at one time. It's a very, you know, carefully managed process based on rate of sale and, and retail, feature and display, and, and promotional activity. In some markets, we've started to see the new package launch, hit the market. Certainly our Cabernet and some key retailers, we expect to see the real impact is going to occur in H2, when we see the, you know, the broad component of the classic tier is going to be in the new, the new package. As I mentioned, there's not one answer for the whole country. It's going to depend based on timing across the country.

Tim Ford
CEO and Managing Director, Treasury Wine Estates

Well, with any of these changes, Sam, it's going to be progressive, you know, month in, month out. That's, we're, we're not saying it's going to all hit in H2. What we're saying is, at that point in time, we expect it to be, yeah, throughout the market in a meaningful way. Thank you for that. All right. I think that's all the questions. I'm glad everyone got a chance to, to ask those. Thank you. Great set of questions, look forward to talking to a number of you in more detail over the over the coming days. Thanks for joining us. Cheers.

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