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Earnings Call: H1 2024

Jul 29, 2024

Operator

Good afternoon. This is the Chorus Call Conference Operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Cementir Holding first half 2024 results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Marco Maria Bianconi, Head of M&A and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Marco Maria Bianconi
Head of M&A and Investor Relations, Cementir Holding

Thank you. Good afternoon, and good morning to everybody. Welcome to Cementir Holding half year 2024 results. I'm here with our chairman and Chief Executive, Francesco Caltagirone. I'm going to present very quickly, go through the presentation deck that is being sent by email and posted on our website. So going through the presentation deck on page two, the key takeaways for these results are that these results are in line with the management expectations, with overall volumes up year-on-year, lower revenues and EBITDA, and higher net profits. Cementir, RMC, and aggregate volumes were in positive territory year-on-year. Both revenues and EBITDA were impacted by important infrastructure projects being delayed in Denmark and temporary ban on exports from Turkey to Israel.

In the last 12 months, the cash flow was impacted by extraordinary investments of EUR 24 million, a higher dividend distribution, the purchase of 12 million CO2 emission rights, higher CapEx, mainly linked to Belgium Kiln 4 upgrade in line with our industrial plan. Excluding one-off items, EBITDA for the first half of the year would have been higher than previous year. 2024 guidance on both EBITDA and net financial position at constant perimeter are confirmed. Revenue guidance is revised downwards from around EUR 1.8 to EUR 1.7 billion , in line with last year. Going to page three, first half results highlights. Very quickly, revenues reached EUR 811.8 million, up, down 3.4% year-on-year. Non-GAAP revenues were EUR 803.3 million, down 7.5% year-on-year.

Cement volumes were broadly flat, whereas RMC volumes were up 4%, and aggregate volumes were up 6%. Lower revenues were recorded in all regions, with the exception of Turkey and Egypt, which recorded an increase in local currency. EBITDA for the period reached EUR 192.7 million, -3.9% year-on-year. Non-GAAP EBITDA was EUR 181.9 million, -10.1% year-on-year. The lower EBITDA was mainly in Nordic and Baltic and Asia Pacific. A better EBITDA was recorded in Belgium. A strong Forex headwind reduced EBITDA by almost EUR 20 million. Excluding non-recurring charges and income, non-GAAP EBITDA was down 5.6% versus the first half of 2023. Non-GAAP EBITDA margin decreased from 23.3% to 22.6% due to adverse geographical mix.

EBIT was down at 9.7 year-on-year. Non-GAAP EBIT was down 16%. Group net profit reached EUR 97 million, +7.4% year-on-year. Non-GAAP group net profit reached EUR 102.2 million, -6.9%. Net cash position reached EUR 55.4 million, an improvement of EUR 44.5 million year-on-year, including EUR 43.5 million of dividend distribution by the parents, an extraordinary EUR 14 million of dividend distributed by subsidiaries to third parties, some extraordinary investment of EUR 24 million, the purchase of CO2 emission rights for EUR 12 million, and a higher CapEx, IFRIC impact of EUR 82.1 million versus 77 last year. Going through the different regions, very quickly, page 4 of the presentation. Nordic and Baltic, accounting for around 43% of our EBITDA.

In Denmark, domestic cement declined due to harsh weather conditions in Q1 and a weak residential market. And Fehmarnbelt, the large infrastructure project which is recently entered the operational phase, but was behind schedule. Ready-mix volumes were up 2%, while aggregate volumes declined by 6%. EBITDA declined due to lower volumes and average prices, despite savings on main inputs. Norway, RMC sales declined by 23% due to demand slowdown and adverse weather conditions and delays on some infrastructure projects. EBITDA was down as well, and Norwegian krone also depreciated by 1.5% versus the euro. In Sweden, ready-mix sales volumes increased by 25%, thanks to the contribution of a major project, while aggregate volumes were down 12%. EBITDA was up year-over-year, and the Swedish krona was broadly in line with the euro average.

Moving to next page, 5, Belgium and France, accounting for 27% of group EBITDA. The domestic cement volumes were stable in the first half of the year, with moderate growth in Q2. Exports to France and the Netherlands were down double digits, mainly due to adverse weather conditions and market weakness. Ready-mix volumes were down 15% with a more significant drop in France, while aggregate volumes were broadly flat in the first half of the year. EBITDA was up, driven by lower production costs compared to H1 of 2023, which was penalized by higher extraordinary maintenance costs and the purchase of clinker from third parties due to temporary kiln shutdowns. Moving to page 6, Turkey, accounting for 15% of group EBITDA. From April 2022, Turkey is considered hyperinflationary. The reported figures are non-GAAP, therefore exclude the application of IAS 29.

Domestic cement volumes were up 10%, thanks to significantly higher sales in Eastern Anatolia and supported by post-earthquake reconstruction. Cement exports were up 10%, although penalized by the lack of exports to Israel as a result of the embargo. RMC volumes increased by 24%, and aggregate volumes were strongly up due to the opening of a new quarry in Eastern Anatolia. Revenues in euro decreased by 1.1% because of Turkish devaluation versus euro of around 58.7% versus the euro average. If we exclude EUR 5 million of non-recurring capital gains income in 2023, EBITDA declined by 7.7% year-on-year due to higher operating costs, negative effects, partially offset by higher volumes and prices. Moving to page seven, North America, accounting for 6% of our EBITDA.

White cement volumes were slightly up in the period, with deliveries to Texas impacted by harsh weather conditions and fewer working days, with a backdrop of a residential market still suffering from higher interest rates. In Florida, deliveries were stable, while in California, grew in all market segments. EBITDA was down 12% due to lower selling price, due to strong competition and higher cement purchases and higher fixed cost. The U.S . was broadly in line with the Euro average. Moving to page 8, Egypt, accounting for 4% of group EBITDA. In this geography, domestic white cement volumes declined by 12% due to a weak construction market and the postponement of major public projects. Export volumes were slightly down due to lower volumes shipments to the U.S. because of a different timing of deliveries.

Revenue local currency was up 22.8%, but in euro, they declined by 10.2% due to a 36.7% Egyptian pound devaluation versus the euro average. EBITDA increased due to higher fuel prices, partially offset by lower sales volumes and Egyptian pound devaluation. Lastly, on page nine, Asia Pacific, accounting for 5% of group EBITDA. China. In China, revenue decreased by 16%, with volumes down by 11% and a moderate price reduction, plus around 4.2% renminbi devaluation versus the euro. Volumes were affected by the real estate crisis, a harsh weather, and longer national holidays. EBITDA declined due to lower sales volumes and prices, higher transportation costs. If we exclude EUR 2.5 million of non-recurring capital gains income in 2023, EBITDA decline was actually 11.9%.

In Malaysia, domestic cement volumes were flat due to a weak residential sector and closures for a religious holiday in April. Exports were moderately up, driven by higher shipments to the Philippines and Vietnam. EBITDA was stable due to lower average prices, offset by savings on variable costs, and there was also a 6% MYR devaluation versus euro average. The last couple of slides, number ten, the guidance. As anticipated, there is only a partial revision to revenues from EUR 1.8 billion-EUR 1.7 billion, in line with last year. EBITDA guidance of EUR 385 million is unchanged, as the net cash position of around EUR 300 million at constant perimeter. CapEx, also around EUR 135 million for the year, is unchanged. This guidance refers to like-for-like, EUR 100 million at constant perimeter.

CapEx, also around EUR 135 million for the year, is unchanged. This guidance refers to like-for-like. Our decarbonization commitments continues with EUR 24.7 million investments in sustainability in the period, mainly for Kiln 4 upgrade in Belgium, which will allow alternative fuel usage to increase to over 70%. Our objectives have been validated by Science Based Targets initiative, as well as our long-term climate targets, in line with a 1.5 degrees Celsius scenario. SBTi has also approved our overall net zero emission target by 2050.

We have been included also in the European Climate Leaders 2024, ranking by the Financial Times and Statista. We have been confirmed as well as the leader in ESG Identity Corporate Index for the second year in a row. Lastly, we have introduced a line of white cement, low carbon brands called D-Carb, launched in Europe, with 15% lower CO2 emissions versus other white Portland cement. And this ends my brief introduction, and I now leave the floor to Mr. Caltagirone to take your question. Thank you.

Operator

Excuse me, would you like to start the Q&A session?

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

Yes, please.

Operator

Thank you. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. To remove yourself from the question queue, please press star and two. Please pick up the receiver when asking questions. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question is from Matteo Bonizzoni of Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Matteo Bonizzoni
Head of Equity Research Italy, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you. Good afternoon. I have one question. The question is the following one: We have seen different trends for the first quarter of the year, on a year-on-year basis. First quarter was, EBITDA was down 19%, EBITDA non-GAAP adjusted was down 19%, also due to weather. But in Q2, there was a positive reversal with EBITDA adjusted non-GAAP up around 5%, no? So we are not in presence of a clear trend. The question is, can you elaborate on the outlook for the second half, referring to your key geographies, so Denmark, Belgium, and Turkey, to assess, for which reason the EBITDA in the first half could be, in these geographies, up or down, also providing some more color and sensitivity. Thanks.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

As we said, that after a slow start, we expected towards the end of the first half, some rebound is something that, likely, and what we—you can see in the second quarter, vis-a-vis the same quarter of last year, we have, a rebound, from revenues to EBITDA. So, we think that, we are, bottoming out in some region. In others, we haven't seen, this bounce, so far, but, we expect to consolidate, the result, towards the end, in the second half. As you know, the decline of the rates started with, six months, nine months of delay, and so we expect, even with some delay, that this should pick up by, the end of the year.

Take into account that our EBITDA has been impacted, as we say, compared to last year, from exceptional items that, compared to last year, was nearly EUR 10 million lower this year compared to last year. And also by from one factor that is the Fehmarn delay and the ban to Israel, because it's affecting, it started to affecting us from April. And, you know, it is linked in the development of the situation in Gaza and Lebanon, so we don't know when we can restart. But for sure, both of these, we can say that the impact on a yearly basis can be more than EUR 10 million of EBITDA.

So we have the lack of nearly EUR 5-6 million in the first half due to this, this, let's say, special costs. Regarding the geography, United States is performing quite well, I mean, the second quarter, the Asia Pacific is still down, and Turkey is continuing to perform quite satisfactory. You also have to understand that, Turkey inflation is hitting, and also devaluation that in the first half has been mild, but the devaluation in the Egyptian pound has been quite strong, nearly 50%, near 50%. And also, as we also said last time, the EBITDA is also impacted by the hedging that we bring forward in energy and in CO2.

This means that as you are seeing, we have a very strong result in the financial items. I mean, part of this result is because we hedged on energy and CO2, so we see the extra profit in the financial items, but on the contrary, you will see a lower EBITDA. So if we are going to normalize even this, I can say that more or less, the EBITDA is in line with last year.

Thank you.

On Belgium, sorry, just the last. France is affected by the end of the infrastructure for the Olympics, so this is a one-off factor, and so we don't think that is already budgeted in our LME forecast. And so we don't think that this kind of consumption can come back soon. But, let's say, Belgium seems that is resilient, more resilient than what we expected. Also, my personal comment on the first half result is besides the nearly 3.5% decrease in the revenues, we succeeded in, and also, if you consider the second half of last year, the company seems to be quite resilient to the downward pressure in revenues and in quantity.

Also, quantity, we have seen a rebound or a stabilization, so it seems that we should be bottoming out, and the question mark is, let me say, economic framework, the USA election, and the war that are around us. So these are not predictable in full.

Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to register for a question, please press star and one on your telephone. For any further questions, please press star and one on your telephone. The next question is from Alessandro Tortora of Mediobanca. Please go ahead.

Alessandro Tortora
Equity Research Analyst - Industrial, Mediobanca

Yes. Hi, good afternoon to everybody. I have two questions. The first one is on the price trend by country. Can you comment a little bit about the sequential trend in your major countries? If, as you mentioned before, on the volume side, there are some countries that are bottoming out, some others still are looking for the bottom. So if you can also help us to understand the trend on the price side, where maybe you still see some price increase or some, let's say, adjustment on the price listings, and on the other side, where you're observing, let's say, some more competitive environment on the price side.

That's the first question, and then, the second one is on, if you can, let's say, also give us an update on, any update on the planned initiative on the carbon capture side. I remember that, in the last conference call, you mentioned, let's say, still an assessment on the major technology you would use on the, carbon capture side, but, do you have in mind, let's say, a deadline, I don't know, 2025, in order to assess and then start, any major project on the carbon capture side? Thanks.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

So, regarding the price, we are seeing more or less, let me say, the price that are stable. We don't see, besides some persistent pressure on the volume, that the price are, let me say that. So, we don't see any price pressure downwards. In the country like Turkey and Egypt, for the inflation needs, let me say, to be adjusted. In the country like Turkey and Egypt, for the inflation needs, let me say, to be adjusted weekly.

In Turkey and Egypt, because of this very high inflation, the prices are adjusted weekly, on a weekly basis, but at the end, the euro terms are more or less stable. So I don't see in the old perimeter any, let me say, particular pressure from the prices, and especially on the profitability, that also you have seen, it's more or less stable. Regarding the investment on the CCS, we are, let me say, we applied for the innovation fund for the plant of Aalborg. We are waiting for an official answer by November.

We choose as technology Cryocap that is a retrofit of the plant that capture the CO2 at the stack trying to freeze the smoke to -90 and about, and where the CO2 becomes liquid. This is just a very simple. So this is the technology that we have chosen, and but we need to understand if the project will be financed by the European community and by the government of Denmark, and we will need another two or three months. So at this moment, we just applied, and we wait for an answer like a lot of other projects in different sectors, because the commission, as you can imagine, with the election, are going to be, let me say, renewed during this month.

So they will need, I think, 2 or 3 months, or even 4, to check all the documents and also to ask questions about every single project.

Alessandro Tortora
Equity Research Analyst - Industrial, Mediobanca

Mm-hmm. Okay, okay, thanks. And, and so just if I make a quick follow-up also on your, let's say, new guidance on the safe side. So basically, considering the, price assumption, but also the volume assumption you made, the guidance on the safe side was adjusted for, FX, and also for, basically, what are the, let's say, paying factors? So just understand that, what are the main assumptions.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

The two factors that brought—I mean—the revenues down, as I said, is the slow start of the Fehmarn should pick up- sooner or later, and the ban of exports towards Israel, because we export more than 200,000 tons. So it's about, let me say, a few tens of euros. But with these two things in place, I think that our guidance should have been, let me say, left at the same level. So we have two special aspects that is hitting us. This, I mean, it's 80% of the gap on the revenues. The other 20 are minor adjustments in every single, let me say, geography.

So the forex, because, as you can imagine, selling in Egyptian pound and Turkish lira, when you translate in euro, is let me say, you have a downward revision of the price.

Alessandro Tortora
Equity Research Analyst - Industrial, Mediobanca

Yes, yes, absolutely. Thank you. Yeah, sure.

Operator

The next question is from Tobias Woerner of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Tobias Woerner
Analyst, Stifel

Yes, good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions. In terms of your costs, can you sort of go through your various components, cost components, where you see either stable, increasing or falling costs? I mean, gas is not important for you, but gas is an interesting example where the prices went up early summer, but started to come down. So just to get a sense around your energy costs, on the one hand, your wage bill and any other sort of important costs you may want to highlight here. Thank you very much.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

The cost structure, let's say, is from some raw materials is for sure on downward, so we are seeing better cost structure. In terms of personnel costs, it is more or less close to the inflation factor, so it's up nearly 3%. And also, I mean, dispatching costs by sea or by land are more or less stable. So we continue to see some possibility to lower the cost for the energy and electricity, personnel and shipment costs are stable. So but, let's say the volatility that we saw in the last couple of years, it seems that is behind us, and now it's just, let me say, small adjustment.

And also, this is because we hedged most of our cost for the electricity and coal. So it's becoming, I mean, for sure, for this year, but I think also for the next year, a more fixed price cost than a variable cost.

Tobias Woerner
Analyst, Stifel

When we look at Turkey, it seems to continue to defy gravity. I mean, how do you see the second half of the year in terms of volumes? Have we started to hit a peak where it should start to stabilize or roll over?

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

I mean, Turkey, as you know, is affected by the bigger quake and also by the bigger export flow that is still at the rate of 20-25 million tons. So this is affecting them, the domestic market positively, and, for sure, when you have the rates that compared to 12 months ago, increased from 16% to 50%, the economy is hit. But for sure, with the inflation of 70%, the real estate investment is something that preserve you from the decline of valuation. So there are these two different forces, one headwinds and one tailwinds, that we see balance, let's say, for this and next year. So, it's an economy where when you have 70% of inflation, can adjust plus, plus, plus...

5% or -5% in terms of consumption. But also, if we look at the GDP, that it seems to be around 4 or 5%, seems that... And also, you have to consider that the general environment of the energy costs, like Italy or like Spain and Germany, where these countries can use a lot of, let me say, imported energy with the downward pressure of the cost, the balance of payment have some relief. And also, we have also to consider it, that Turkey, in the first six months, succeeded in build $12 billion of hard currency reserves.

So it seems that the things are starting to normalizing, and we don't see a major factor of a downward revision to consumption and price, but volatility is always behind the corner.

Tobias Woerner
Analyst, Stifel

If I may ask, has the third quarter started well, especially in those countries where weather was an issue, such as North America?

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

I mean, the third quarter, it seems that is in line with what we have seen so far. So, even slightly better, I can say, in some areas. But, I think that, let's see, today, we have our EBITDA that is nearly exactly the half of our guidance. So we expect, and we hope that if the things continue, it has to be confirmed by September, let's say, I hope, crossed fingers, that we might, let me say, revise the things, but this in October, November, so.

Tobias Woerner
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Caltagirone. Thank you.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

You're welcome.

Operator

For any further questions, please press star and one on your telephone. Gentlemen, there are no more questions. I'm sorry, there's a last question from Giuseppe Grimaldi of BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Giuseppe Grimaldi
Equity Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for the presentation. I have just a very quick one on the CapEx. You have announced an investment in H1 in a concrete plant and the minority investment in Denmark. If you could add a bit more color on this capital allocation decision. Thanks.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

Yes, it's a small investment compared to our perimeter. It's bit shy of EUR 20 million. It's ready mix, three ready mix plant, and a couple of aggregate quarry that complete our, let me say, perimeter, and enhance, enhance a bit the profitability. As you know, we are the only player in Denmark, also, we need profile and size as it is. It's value accretive. It's not a defensive move, mode, but it's a small investment. That's all.

Giuseppe Grimaldi
Equity Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thanks a lot. Was it something that was already included in your guidance, if I understood correctly?

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

No, I mean, all the, the extraordinary I mean, what we say about the, the, the CO2, I mean, rights acquisition, the acquisition of these assets, and also the enlargement of the quarry in Malaysia, that is about EUR 6 million. So round about all of this, it's about 35, including the CO2, 35, 36 million, was not included in the guidance.

Giuseppe Grimaldi
Equity Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thanks a lot. Really clear.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

You're welcome.

Operator

Gentlemen, this was the last question. Back to you for any closing remarks you may have.

Thank you very much for your interest in Cementir, and we wish you a pleasant rest of your day and evening. Bye-bye. Thank you.

Francesco Caltagirone
Chairman and CEO, Cementir Holding

Thank you. Have a good evening. Bye.

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