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Earnings Call: Q4 2024

Mar 13, 2025

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Good evening to all the people connected. Welcome to the full year 2024 result presentation, which will be hosted by Enel CEO Flavio Cattaneo and the CFO Stefano De Angelis. Following the presentation, we will have the usual Q&A session.

We ask those connected to the webcast to send questions only via email at investor.relations@enel.com. Before we start, let me remind you that media is listening to both the presentation and the Q&A session. Thank you. Now, let me hand over to the CEO.

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

Thank you, Omar. Welcome to everybody. We're starting with our focus on rebuilding and constructive dialogue with the institution that is already showing positive and visible outcomes. The resulting improvement of regulatory frameworks will support our industrial plan delivery and confirm the value creation of our capital allocation.

Group delivery in 2024 was visible and based on solid performance and allowed us to meet all the targets. The result was achieved due to the higher contribution of Iberia, US, and LATAM at integrated margin level, as Stefano will detail later on in the presentation. The leverage has been successfully executed, and its completion improves our balance sheet flexibility for a more profitable growth. Lastly, in light of the result achieved, we'll propose to the next AGM a dividend per share equal to EUR 0.47 for 2024, implying around 70% payout and 7% dividend yield at the current price.

Water reminder floor is confirmed at EUR 0.46 per share over the plan period. As additional shareholder remuneration, the Board of Directors has approved the renewal of the share buyback program for a maximum of 500 million shares and amount up to EUR 3.5 billion. The program will be proposed to the next AGM, and the shares acquired will be consequently canceled.

Now, we'll have a look at 2024 delivery. The next slide, you see last year the group recorded an outstanding financial performance and growth across all businesses. EBITDA reached EUR 22.8 billion, landing at the top of the guidance range on the back of a less volatile environment, restoring the full growth potential. Net income came in at EUR 7.1 billion, increasing by 10% versus the previous year.

EBITDA and net income are the outcome of our managerial action implemented in the non-domestic market, where the new capital allocation approach is increasing asset-based profitability. Net debt/EBITDA ratio lowered to 2.4 versus 2.7 times of last year, on the back of an improved performance and the delivery's completion. Now we move and we see the progresses of our advocacy action in the next slide. Supported regulatory frameworks are the main driver to attract investment for the energy transition.

Therefore, we reinforced our advocacy action, and over the past month, we've started to record notable achievements. In Italy, for example, the first and most relevant outcome was the renewal of the distribution concession. Also, on the renewable side, the new supported measures have been introduced in the FER 2 decree. In Spain, we're working to ensure the regulatory framework will be supportive of investment into energy transition.

On LATAM, discussions have been positive so far, and the renewal of the concession in Brazil is expected by the end of this year. Now I will dive into capital allocation on the next slide. Our capital allocation has been designed to maximize return profile while reducing risk and consequently improve the performance of the group. Investments were deployed in line with our strategy, with networks accounting for more than 50%, 5-0, 14%, 1-4, higher percent higher than previous year.

As a consequence, operating KPIs improved. RAB reached more than EUR 45 billion. Renewable production on total increased by 8% year on year, while the share of emission-free stood at 83%. Therefore, our customer-side renewable coverage on fixed saves reached 82% from 65% in 2023. Now we'll see the progress in M&A activities.

As announced during the Capital Market Day, we'll leverage on different models in order to create value and reach the level of desired returns. In the recent months, we caught two brownfield opportunities. The first one is it has been 600 megawatts of hydro asset in Spain, and the second one over one gig on renewable asset in Australia through our joint ventures in the region and exploiting the stewardship business model in this case.

These two deals prove we are moving to less risky technologies and countries, delivering on what announced. Now it's time to the second pillar of our strategy. Let's talk about our efficiency program in the next slide. So far, we reached around EUR 800 million savings compared to 2022, and we're more than halfway through the improved plan target of EUR 1.5 billion. I remember you, we updated it last November.

Actually, this achievement is clear evidence of our persistent focus on optimization of processes and activities without compromising our operation, which continued to deliver a strong performance. Now it's time for financial and environmental sustainability. In 2024, our financial performance continued to be solid, and the net debt/EBITDA reached 2.4 times, well below the peers' average.

This level of leverage gives us over EUR 10 billion additional financial flexibility on top of the EUR 43 billion investment announced in CMD, including the buyback, which I'll comment in detail later on. To capture all of these, the future and profitable growth opportunities, and to maximize the value for our shareholder. On environmental sustainability, absolute emission continued to decrease in line with 2030 goals. Finally, shareholder remuneration on slide nine.

The resiliency of our business model and the efforts of our advocacy actions, as well as the positive operating performance, allowed us to achieve solid economic and financial results. As I mentioned before, we will propose to the next AGM a dividend per share of EUR 0.47 for 2024, implying a payout of around 70%. The new share buyback program aimed at improving shareholder remuneration, a further option on top of the organic and inorganic opportunities, and part of the EUR 10 billion additional flexibility mentioned before. This option could be evaluated also at subsidiary level. I leave the floor to Stefano now for the financial performance detail.

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Thank you, Flavio, and welcome to everybody. The pragmatic back-to-basic and financially disciplined approach we adopted in the last two years drove to a consistent positive delivery in the core KPIs and financial performance across all businesses. Emission-free generation is growing, with financial results boosted by a remote energy management already fully enforced in Italy.

In our domestic market, the supply business normalized after the churn storm we fell upon in 2023, thanks to a mandatory broad review of our retail customers' offer portfolio. Last but not least, a pragmatic and factual advocacy supported a constructive regulatory framework that allows to increase investments and, in parallel, the value generated in the network business. As a result, 2024 ordinary EBITDA reached EUR 22.8 billion, increasing more than EUR 2 billion versus previous year on a like-for-like basis.

This like-for-like comparison is not to give a different and positive perspective to the 2024 reported EBITDA that was higher compared to the ordinary result, reaching EUR 24.1 billion on the positive returns of the executed disposal plan, generating significant cash capital gains, but recurring long-term growth leverages on the organic performance of the core business. From a geographical perspective, this portfolio rationalization is visible, with EBITDA coming from Europe and the US accounting for almost 80% of the total. Finally, in 2024, net debt/EBITDA landed at 2.4 times, a sector benchmark, providing ample balance sheet flexibility moving forward.

After this broad overview of the 2024 results, I will speak up, focusing just on the main topics of the business, starting from the networks. As we commented in the presentation, EBITDA reached almost EUR 8 billion, up by 8% year on year on a like-for-like basis, confirming the positive growth pathway observed along 2024. On top of the positive and consistent trend in Europe, it is worth mentioning that the LATAM EBITDA stabilization was achieved in a tough macroeconomic and political environment, where the positive contribution from investments, tariff indexation, and energy volumes distributed to our customers has been offset by the local currencies devaluation observed in the period, and this accounts for EUR 0.2 billion.

Now we move to the evolution of our integrated business, and I am on slide 13. Integrated business EBITDA increased by EUR 1.9 billion year on year, net of perimeter, driven by the normalization of relevant business dynamics that restore a segment performance that is current with our asset portfolio mix in terms of value generation, also looking forward. As a consequence, renewables recorded a strong performance across all regions, recovering around EUR 2.7 billion versus last year. Flexible generation, I would say, is moving to normal.

As a fact, minus 21 terawatt-hour reduction in coal and gas was mostly driven by the end of mandatory requirements. Finally, retail EBITDA reflected the mentioned downward price campaign in Italy. Starting from 2025, we expect a more linear evolution of the performance, with prices dynamics fully embedded in group's plan assumptions. I will now provide an update on our energy management and hedging strategy in the domestic market, meaning Italy.

Slide 14 describes how the new integrated sourcing sales management model supports ample visibility and resiliency on future evolution of the earnings. Compared to the past, we move from an approach focused on the forefront financial hedging of the industrial open position on generation and gas contracts to an end-to-end integrated and flexible approach focused on the value potential of our large and resilient residential and small-medium business customer base. Thanks to this new approach, renewable generation is set to be naturally matched with retail sales, a more resilient customer base, with financial pre-hedge as a lever to help increment value through optionality.

This allows us to maintain a predictable fair profitability, which guarantees to our customers a sustainable price despite a persistent volatility on power price scenario. As you can see from the chart, 2025 is almost fully hedged, and for 2026, we already cover 85% of the expected generation. The contracted price of these volumes is in line or above the capital market day market scenario .

More details for 2025: we forecasted EUR 114 per megawatt-hour, and we hedged at EUR 117, while for 2026, the average price as of today of the hedged volumes is EUR 114 compared with the scenario at EUR 111. Now we move on slide 15, talking about the earnings evolution. Ordinary group net income came in at EUR 7.1 billion, above the guidance provided on the back of the positive results of our operation and additional contribution also from the assets disposed in 2024, mostly excluded from the guidance provided to the market.

Financial expenses reduced by EUR 100 million at profit and loss level, but it is worth to highlight that cash financial expenses declined by around EUR 500 million as no cash effects impacted, and other non-monetary items generated a relevant and volatile impact both on P&L and net debt on an accounting measure. While the deduction in charges on debt is mainly driven by the EUR 4 billion reduction in gross debt, I would like to highlight also a higher contribution from associates, mainly due to the positive performance of Slovenské elektrárne , whose stakes will be deconsolidated by 2025 after the exercise of the call option by EPH at the end of 2024. Finally, reported net income stood at EUR 7 billion, almost in line with the ordinary net income and doubling versus the average results achieved in 2021-2023.

Let's now move to the slide related to the FFO. I n 2024, we confirmed the strong results achieved in 2023 in terms of cash EBITDA, with an FFO once normalized for cash out, not organically related to the 2024 operational performance, standing at EUR 14.6 billion, exceeding 25% of the group's net debt and reflecting a solid monetization of two-thirds of our EBITDA. As highlights, I want to mention, first of all, the Qatar arbitration that was mostly related to the 2021-2022 operation was booked in 2023, but financially impacted 2024 working capital change that would have been neutral, excluding just these items.

Another important highlight is the provision where we include EUR 300 million non-cash items related to the 2021-2024 additional regional hydro fees in Italy, which, as you could remind from the capital market day, we have already prudentially included in the plan assumption. On this matter, we maintain our solid position that these amounts are not due before concession expiry, meaning after 2029. Final remarkable points are the following. The tax payment was impacted by the 2023 tax balance paid in Q3 2024 due to the significant difference we are in Italy from in the story between 2022 taxable income versus 2023. Financial expenses, as said before, benefited from debt reduction as cash do not follow the accounting principle.

Let's now move to the debt evolution on slide 17. Cash flow generated by the operation was dedicated to fund EUR 11 billion of CAPEX, including EUR 1.1 billion of grants already cashed in. Additionally, our partnership model contributed for EUR 2 billion with cash inflows from the BESS project in Italy and solar projects in Spain. Finally, dividends paid stood at EUR 5.4 billion. Thanks to the strong focus on cash generation and the completion of the 2022 disposal plan, we have been able to reduce net debt by more than EUR 4 billion versus last year, reaching a remarkable balance sheet solidity with net debt/EBITDA ratio at around 2.4 times.

Now, having already started the new fiscal year, before our CEO closing remarks, I share the year-on-year perimeter reconciliation, and this is the last time having completed, as I already said, the disposal plan set in 2022. I'm on page 18. In order to compare organically four-year results with the 2025 guidance shown at November capital market day, we provide the rebased EBITDA and net income for 2024. Like-for-like EBITDA 2024 is EUR 22.4 billion adjusted for Peru and Lombardy asset disposal. This year, as you may see, the differences are not the same as in the past.

Let's say that are minimal. Net income baseline is EUR 6.6 billion, where on top of the Peru and Lombardy assets, we adjusted 2024 net income for the contribution of Slovenské elektrárne that amounts to EUR 0.3 billion positive. On these last items, Slovenské, it's worth to remind that on that side, we recorded the repayment of more than EUR 1 billion intercompany loan at the end of January. This will have a positive impact on rating agencies' adjusted net debt.

As a result of the normalization I've mentioned, in 2025, we expect a 3% growth versus the 90% EBITDA secured in the asset plan scenario presented last November in the capital market day. On top of this, I want to highlight that there is a clear potential upside to be considered on the back of the balance sheet flexibility we have achieved. On this topic, I hand over to the CEO for his closing remarks.

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

Thank you, Stefano. The economic and financial result are clear evidence of our delivery abilities. The increased focus on advocacy actions across all countries provides full visibility on the implementation of our capital allocation strategy. The continued effort of improving group's profitability allows us to confirm all 2025 full-year guidance.

Through our action, we have been able to restore group financial solidity to capture future and more profitable growth opportunity and guarantee an attractive shareholders' remuneration via current dividend policy and the new share buyback program. I take the opportunity to announce we'll move our CMD to the beginning of 2026. It will be more efficient and aligned with standard market practice. Finally, we'll continue to focus on group's profitability to lock in marginality and guarantee a safe harbor to our shareholders. Thank you for your attention. Let's now move to the Q&A.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thanks to our CEO. Let's now open the Q&A session. We received a lot of questions for the call. We have summarized them by topics.

Let's start with the most strategic question that will be answered by our CEO. The first one, distribution concession renewal. How will concession fee be calculated? Any indication on the potential amount?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

All the technicalities are still under discussion, and the amount of the fee is subject to the final decision of the government and the authorities. In terms of amount, it will not be negligible, in my opinion, and will be included for sure, and I want to point out this element in our wrap. Thank you.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Is there any news on the renewal of the hydro concession in Italy?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

First of all, let me say our concession is set to expire in August 2029. We expect the process will take a longer time to start, and it will involve both regional and national authorities. In any case, this is one of our priorities, and our intention is to implement advocacy in this sense. We are not in a hurry, and it is not the right time to speed up the process. Let me say, trust in us.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Final question on concession. When do you expect the situation in South America will be solved?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

You know, we have already in the presentation said about our expectation in South America, especially in Brazil, even because the plan for improving the network resilience is well on track. Our expectation of renewal is by the end of the year. Moreover, while we expect the updated regulatory framework in Argentina, where we are in the discussion even there, we are having a positive discussion in all the countries in South America.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you. Did the leverage completion result in higher balance sheet flexibility, more appetite for M&A?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

I repeat it again. On M&A, we only look at accretive deal. When we talk about accretive and without synergy or other things at the beginning, it's important to understand this. We intend to buy assets, especially in developed countries with a stable environment and profitable returns.

I said many times, I want to point out again, we are not interested in large M&A deals. Now we have room in our balance sheet, but we don't want to buy at any price, and we look at the right opportunity. Otherwise, we prefer to buy our shares also at subsidiary level, as I said in the presentation.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Shareholder remuneration upside. You increased DPS to EUR 0.47 per share. It's right to think about is the new floor.

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

No, as I said before, the current dividend policy is clear and foresees at EUR 0.46 as a floor, and we have already changed the floor. We can change every year with the possibility for DPS to increase up to the 70% payout. Indeed, this year it has been EUR 0.57. Obviously, the share buyback program is a further option to improve shareholder remuneration, and DPS grows naturally. In this case, I think we cover the expectation for our shareholders, including me.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Right. Recently, there have been news around government measures to reduce the price of electricity for final consumers. What's your view?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

Today there is a strong discussion in Italy. We have a constant dialogue with authorities, and all the parties involved in this discussion. Measures like the price cap applied in the past in Spain have demonstrated to be not effective, and it has been abandoned in this country. We have already the real proof. Proof is not concrete way.

One of the most effective instead measures has been already included by the government in the FER 2 decree, where there is a possibility to sell electricity for 20 years with PPAs at a fixed price. This could be a benefit both for customers and operators. This reduces naturally the price of energy. I suggest, let me say also, not following only the energy price evolution for defining the result of our company, because for integrated players, the profitability is not strictly linked to the price of electricity.

I'll give you some examples. The first one is the good performance in all 2024 driven by contribution of non-domestic countries like Iberia, for example, which had a lower power price but higher integrated margins compared to Italy. The second example is Italy. In 2022, results were power prices were at their highest, but the economic performance was the worst ever recorded. This is the reality. This is not only general discussion.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Last one for the CEO. What's the impact on your development strategy in the US after the executive order from the Trump administration?

Flavio Cattaneo
CEO, Enel

Now there are no impacts expected. In the US, we don't target to add new capacity in the short term from greenfield. This is for sure. All the production, the existing production in the country is baked by long-term activity with a very rated company, big corporate, American big corporate.

Our potential new investment for the company will be evaluated only if the conditions are supportive. Furthermore, in this area, we believe brownfield renewable assets are more convenient and potentially more profitable than greenfield ones. Thank you.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thanks. Let's move to CFO questions. Stefano, could you please share with us a bit of technicalities on distribution concession renewal and the upside on CapEx versus the plan presented in November?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

As of now, it's too early to go in depth on all the moving parts as the process is at an early stage, and most of the technicalities will be discussed in the next months. Technically speaking, let's say that there are three main items. The first is the size of the extraordinary investment plan and its definition. Second, the amount of the lump sum payment by the current concessionary and recognized as RAB.

Third, the incentives in terms of regulatory remuneration. For the extraordinary plan and the premium for the additional investment, we do not expect any significant change, considering that Enel Distribuzione has anticipated this approach and the existing plan about resiliency, for example, represents a benchmark. We already have a regulation for this. Worth reminding that we already increased from EUR 12 billion to EUR 16 billion the CapEx allocated to Italian grids over the plan period, and the additional investment, as I said, is already including some projects for the networks upgrade.

Moving to the one-off RAB payment, it is already established in the budget law, but it will be defined according to a wider framework, taking into account also the sustainability of the network charges in the bill on the energy system. By the way, we remind you that the capital market investment plan already includes a portion of this item that was based on our expectation, a portion of this.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

T hank you, Stefano. Geothermal concession. They have been renewed on EUR 3 billion CapEx to be spent on those assets. Are investments additional compared to plan?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Yeah. No. Yes. No. Sorry. The EUR 3 billion CapEx are spread over, let's say, decades, decades. The next 2025-2027 plan already included these investments because the discussion with the Tuscany region was already in place. The CapEx plan provides also for additional CapEx, but this is also in the medium and long term. Do not expect like the other topic, let me say, a spike in the CapEx level. This is more something that is in continuity compared to the rest.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you. Guidance. EBITDA and net income guidance for 2025 have been confirmed despite strong 2024 results. Could you please detail the building block for 2025 guidance for both EBITDA and net income?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Yes. In the presentation, we showed that there will be a perimeter effect, but this is unfortunately something that is happening in the last two years. Starting from full year 2024 baseline of EUR 22.4 billion, the building block, let's say in this way, we see today are the following. For grids, we see around EUR 800 million EBITDA increase, where Italy is expected to progress at the 10% growth run rates that we have already observed also in the 2024 results.

Iberia is mostly in line with the 2024 trend. That means, let me say, a very small growth expected still this year because, as you know, the final regulation is under definition. The CapEx plan, as we have already shared, will be revised according to the content of the new regulatory framework. Lastly, LATAM is coming back to growth in our projection thanks to a slightly better macro environment and supportive regulatory updates on not only tariff indexation, but the whole, let me say again, regulatory framework that will allow a first upward in capital expenditures.

In the integrated margin, sorry, we expect a further consolidation of the renewable generation contribution to EBITDA that will leverage on additional capacity that is now focused on regulated market and BESS, meaning storage. This positive trend will be mostly offset by the trading position and energy market normalization and the thermal generation that is progressively flat and is more and more dedicated to ancillary generation and regulated revenues.

Finally, retail in Italy will be mostly in line with 2024 second-half performance, where economics already reflected the mentioned effort on customer portfolio normalization. Lastly, again, in the supply market in Spain, we are observing a slight positive room for additional profitability. Below the EBITDA, we expect a more linear evolution.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

T hank you, Stefano. Hydro. 2024 has been strong in terms of hydro outputs. What's your expectation for 2025? What's the current level of reservoir in Italy?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

You know that Italian [Foreign language] let's be serious. In 2024, the hydro output has been strong across all regions, excluding, probably, as you see in the bulletin, a tough second-half 2024 in Colombia. For 2025, what we expect in Europe is a slight drier year versus 2024, but in line with the historical average.

While in LATAM, we are forecasting a normalized trend. What does it mean? That is a higher production in Colombia, where the resistance has been normalized across the last months, and a slightly lower production in Chile. In any case, all these trends at the moment are in line with the plan assumption because it's something that we have already assumed as projection for the three years in the industrial plan.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you. Let's move to retail. Churn was high double digit in 2024. How's it progressing after the implementation of the new commercial strategy?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Again, the situation is normalized. I understand there is a very strong focus on this, but we have already told several times that the situation has already normalized because at the end of the day, we have completely reshaped our commercial offering to the current market price curve, moving to a more sustainable price for the final customers compared to the 2022 and first half of 2023 offerings. The chart consequently is naturally, let's say, reducing, but the retail market is in a new normal after the 2022-2023 spikes with higher competition, but on the other hand, also a wider market size after the full liberalization. Net-net, this is not negative. This is not a negative scenario because the market, the pie has increased with the liberalization. Some competition, some additional competition was expected.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you, Stefano. Retail margins. Looking at your number, it seems that the unitary margin for Italy is much higher than Spain. What's driving the higher marginality? Is it sustainable in the long term?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Here we have to be very careful because there is also some political topics on this. Again, you have to divide the margin between wholesale and retail ones. Average commercial margin both in Italy and Spain are similar. The main difference between the two countries is driven by the underlying wholesale dynamics that are different.

We know exactly why this happened because of the very heavy weight of gas generation in Italy when compared to Spain. The nuclear absence in Italy when compared to Spain is something that we perfectly know. The integrated strategy, by the way, allows us to ensure margin sustainability in the long term in this way, both in Spain and in Italy, meaning where we have a very strong and solid integrated position.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you. Last one from the web. Working capital was EUR 500 million negative in 2024. What's the expectation for this year? Any one-off to be considered? Any impact expected from the elimination of system charges for non-residential customers?

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

First of all, let's avoid any hypotheses on this last point because system charges that are being eliminated are just a small portion because probably the market and the investors remember what happened some years ago. Nothing comparable. Generally, working capital dynamics are impacted by several organic and non-organic items, including also, as you see, for example, the tax payment in Italy, the Qatar arbitration, numerous one-offs with sometimes also non-cash impact.

As for 2024, it normally achieved a neutral organic working capital change because, as I said before, if you exclude the Qatar payment in early January 2024, the working capital was strongly negative along the quarters. As I told in September and in July, do not worry because this will move to zero, let's say, to a more balanced result if this happens. At the same time, being aware of the aforementioned dynamics, we always include in plan assumption a buffer exactly to absorb potential one-offs that happens. This does not mean that we have potential one-offs in the plan, but we have, let's say, the coverage in terms of working capital for some potential one-off.

Omar Al Bayaty
Head of Investor Relations, Enel

Thank you.

Stefano De Angelis
CFO, Enel

Okay.

Thanks to our CEO and CFO. There are no more questions. Q&A session is over. We covered all the main topics. If something is missed, the IR team is available for follow-up after the call. Thanks to everyone.

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