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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

May 3, 2023

Operator

Good evening and welcome to the Safilo Group Q1 2023 trading update. This call may contain forward-looking statements relating to future events and operating economic and financial results for the Safilo Group. Such forecasts, due to their nature, imply a component of risk and uncertainty due to the fact they depend on the occurrence of certain future events and developments. The actual results may therefore vary, even significantly, to those announced in relation to a multitude of factors. Today's participants are Angelo Trocchia, Chief Executive Officer, Gert Graeser, Chief Financial Officer, and Barbara Ferrante, Director of Investor Relations. I will now pass the call over to Mr. Angelo Trocchia, Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Trocchia, you may begin, sir.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Hi, thanks very much. Good evening, everyone, thank you for attending today conference call on the Safilo Group's Q1 2023 trading update. I will give you a brief introduction on the drivers that characterize the period, leaving to Gert the specific discussion on the key sales, economic, and financial performance indicators, concluding our presentation with a Q&A session. During our last capital market day in March, I think we discussed about our stance on the current year, given some macro challenges and our specific headwinds. I must say that the Q1 of 2023 ended broadly in line with our expectations for the beginning of the year, with the month of March 2023, which confirmed the trend already seen in January 2023 and in February 2023, mostly reflecting the continuation of some of the main business drivers that had characterized the H2 of last year. Our home brand and our core license registered again a sound progress in the majority of our emerging countries, and above all, in Europe, while the business environment remained soft in the U.S. On the profit side, we are pleased we continue our journey to achieve and improve the gross margin while we kept investing in our home brand and in the digital transformation of the company. I look at quarter one as a solid and resilient quarter, notwithstanding the expected headwinds, and I would like to look at our quarterly performance through the lens of our business portfolio.

By brand, we were particularly satisfied with Carrera and Polaroid, which continued to post double-digit growth, broad-based across product categories and market, as much as with the solid momentum of our core license, from the good progress of Hugo Boss and Tommy Hilfiger to the double-digit expansion delivered by Carolina Herrera and David Beckham. The quarter was instead overall soft for Smith, mainly due to a very high comps base, while Blenders was flattish behind bad weather conditions in California. Looking at our business from a geographical standpoint, and more specifically, looking at our two main region, also in Q1 , Europe was strong and our key growth area, with the various market of the area which continued to grow nicely thanks to solid internal consumption and positive touristic flow. Growing Europe continued to be sided by strong growth trend in all the emerging markets, but China, where order intake resumed more sizably starting from the month of April. On the other hand, in the United States, we continue to see a discrepancy between more positive sell-out data and a more prudent behavior by customers, leading to still subdued wholesale demand and order intake. By channel, in the quarter business with physical eyewear customers were largely positive and outpacing online due to the softer IPP sales in Europe. As expected, the business generated through the GrandVision store network dropped significantly as its integration into EssilorLuxottica business arena progresses. I stop here and I hand over to Gert for the specific economic and financial highlight of the period.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Thank you, Angelo, and good evening to all of you. Starting from our top line, revenues in the Q1 reached EUR 287.2 million, up 1.6% at current exchange rates and basically flat at -0.4% at constant exchange rates compared to Q1 2022. At the organic level, sales instead grew by +3.2% at constant exchange rates, which compares to what was last year our strongest quarter, having posted an organic growth of 14.3% versus Q1 2021. Let's look at the drivers of our top-line performance by geography, I would start from our key positive driver, Europe, where our business grew by 4% at constant exchange rates compared to Q1 last year, while organic sales increased by 5.5%. Angelo has already referred to Carrera and Polaroid's ongoing strength, and this was particularly evident in Europe, where the two brands grew respectively by approximately 20% and 10%. Driven by their core markets, namely Italy and Spain, but expanding nicely also in Eastern Europe. These were indeed our overall top performing countries in Europe, together with France. In all, sales growth was pretty much broad-based across channels, with chains and independent opticians particularly strong. We are glad of these performances because they come alongside the continued expansion of our B2B digital channel, in line with our medium-term strategy for a strong omni-channel business model. As said, the general strength of the European business allowed us to more than offset the expected decrease of the revenue generated through GrandVision, which dropped by approximately 70%.

Therefore, our mid-single digit growth in Europe was actually a sound double digit, excluding GrandVision, thanks to a strong, improved relationship with the thousands of customers outside the EssilorLuxottica galaxy. In North America, Q1 sales remained soft, down 7.2% at constant exchange rates compared to last year, while the organic business was more stable, down 0.9% at constant exchange rates. As a reminder, the organic performance is stripping out the Givenchy phase-out sales still recorded in the base period. In the quarter, what we continued to observe and experience in the U.S. wholesale eyewear market was, on one side, healthy and ongoing demand for premium and high-end products, a trend from which also a part of our portfolio continued to benefit with Hugo Boss, Carolina Herrera, Carrera, and David Beckham delivering good growth. On the other, a still prudent propensity to purchase in the entry and mid-tier price points, which eventually resulted in a still soft order intake from our wholesale clients. We then need to consider when looking at North America is the performance of sport shops and direct-to-consumer. In the former, Smith's business was soft in the quarter, as in H1, it is running against a tough comparison base, especially for bike products. It is indeed a well-known topic in the marketplace, the cautious start to the bike season, with bike retailers in U.S. and Europe having to deal with higher inventory levels than they would have liked. Direct-to-consumer was instead low single digit positive in the U.S., driven indeed by Smith, which was very positive in the channel, while Blenders was instead slightly negative.

This is the lowest season quarter for Blenders, which was on top influenced, as Angelo said, by poor weather conditions in several key states, such as the Californian coast. Moving to the emerging markets, our net sales in the rest of the world marked another important growth of +16.6% at constant exchange rates compared to Q1 2022. The key driver of our good performance in the area were once again Brazil and above all Mexico, where Carrera, Polaroid, and all our core licenses recorded double-digit increases, both thanks to the greater productivity of the brands in existing stores and to the expansion of distribution, so new customers for us to serve. Sales in India and the Middle East also recorded a positive quarter as we continued to invest on focused events to engage with the main local wholesale partners, as well as on the development of online channels through Internet Pure Players. Finally, in Asia and Pacific, net sales were down slightly by 2.6% constant exchange rates, mainly due to still some prudence of wholesale customers in the Chinese market. Also considering that this year, the Shanghai Optical Fair, the most important eyewear sector fair in Asia, took place in April. In fact, we have seen a trend change starting from this Q2 . In Q1, our sales in Asia instead grew in the travel retail channels, thanks to the reopenings in China and the gradual recovery of tourist flows, and in Australia, where Smith kept expanding. Moving now to our economic KPIs.

In Q1, we confirmed a solid and improving gross profit, up 7.9%, a margin which reached 58.4% of sales, up 340 basis points compared to the 55% recorded last year. Yet again, our industrial performance was driven by a positive price mix effect, reflecting in particular our richer product offer and the pricing policies we successfully implemented last year, along with a more favorable brand mix driven by the absence of phase-out sales and a less abundant quarter for sport, which at the gross margin level is less accretive than eyewear. The other positive driver was the easing of transport and energy costs, which in the same period of last year were still particularly high. As highlighted by Angelo, in Q1, we continued to invest in the development of our home brands through very focused and targeted marketing and advertising activities, and we kept progressing on our digital transformation roadmap through investments in software as a service.

On the other hand, the period also reflected higher labor costs due to the inflationary pressures and some new capabilities and personnel. Selling general and administrative costs increased by approximately 9% compared to the corresponding period of 2022, with marketing and advertising expenses up approximately 14%. Personnel costs by almost 14%, and software as a service costs by around EUR 1.4 million. Adjusted EBITDA in Q1 equaled EUR 32.4 million and a margin on sales of 11.3%, up 1.3% in absolute terms and bang in line with last year margin-wise. As usual, we conclude our trading update with the group's net debt at the end of March, standing at EUR 112.4 million or EUR 70.2 million pre-IFRS 16, substantially in line with the position recorded at the end of December last year. We were glad to close the period with a slightly positive free cash flow despite the normal seasonality of our business. I stop here and I hand over to Angelo.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Thanks, Gert. This concludes our presentation. We thank you all for participating into the call. We are now ready to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Excuse me, this is the conference operator. We will now begin the Q&A session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. To remove your question, please press star and two. Please pick up the receiver when asking questions. We will pause momentarily while participants join the queue. The first question is from Oriana Cardani of Intesa Sanpaolo.

Oriana Cardani
Equity Analyst, Intesa Sanpaolo

Yes, good evening. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one is on current trade. Can you comment on the trend in April 2023 and which kind of progression do you see across geographies? The second question is on sun season. What is your general feeling on this spring, summer season? The third question is about Longarone. Can you give an update on the ongoing discussions with trade unions? When do you think there should be a clearer picture? Finally, on the evolution of net debt, what kind of trend do you expect for the coming quarters? Thank you.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Okay. I start, I let Angelo build, I think on the current trading in April 2023. Let me say that so far as we enter Q2, we see still quite similar conditions to Q1 with regards to our two main regions. That means in North America, we have not yet seen a pickup. In Europe, honestly speaking, despite the strong comm space still of last year, it continues to track very positively. We need to be clear that as I mean I think expected and as we anticipated, the business with GrandVision is phasing out. GrandVision had the biggest chunk of business in the Q2 of last year. In the H2 of last year, we had already quite a significant reduction. I have to say Europe is dealing very well with the rebalancing of the customer portfolio. I think on the emerging market side, as we were already commenting, we are seeing now some rebound in China as the reopenings are now also affecting the wholesale part of the business. You know, clearly the incidents on sales there is not so high. In the rest of the emerging markets, India, Middle East, Africa, and Latin America, we also continue to see quite a good progress.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Yeah. Thanks, Gert. Answering to your second and third question, sun season. Currently, the overall quarter was very positive on sun. Obviously, with the different dynamic between Europe and North America, where the comparison was tough versus Latin America and the rest of the world. Obviously, the sun season will start now, so we should start seeing the effect now, as in Europe, North of Europe, they didn't have a great weather so far. We should see the sun picking up even more in Europe in the next month. With reference with Longarone, I think we are discussing with the union, we are discussing with the institution. I think that, shortly, let me say, we can, we will be in a position to update the market on the next concrete steps.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

The last question on the net financial position or the free cash flow. Let me say that we were quite pleased to have started the year with a positive free cash flow, which is, let me say, seasonally not typical for us. If we look a little bit at the drivers other than the operational flows from the EBITDA, we had a network and capital dynamic, which was characterized by quite a nice reduction in inventory as we were also expecting, because we had clearly increased inventory at the end of last year in anticipation of the very early Chinese New Year in January. That inventory has gone out as we start shipping, obviously summer collections from March, and then we have an absorption on the side of the receivables, but this is seasonally quite normal because the big month of invoicing, let me say, starts from March. I think on the working capital side, it was a decent start to the year. As usual, Q2 is seasonally always still an absorbing quarter, but I think with the start that we have seen and our ambition for the full year to generate a positive free cash flow that we have articulated previously, I think the year-to-date trends, they put us quite on track versus that objective.

Barbara Ferrante
Director of Investor Relations, Safilo Group

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Andrea Bonfà of Banca Akros.

Andrea Bonfà
Director, Banca Akros

Hello, good afternoon to everybody. I got a very simple question related to the Europe performance. If it's possible to know, the absolute impact of the decline in sales to GrandVision. Or in other words, what would have been the European performance net of that impact, if possible? Thank you.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Yes. We had a reduction of GrandVision in the Q1 of approximately 70%. The GrandVision business of last year that we had in Q1, when things were, let me say, still more normal, that business has gone down by 70%. While if you exclude GrandVision, all the rest of Europe has actually grown at a strong double-digit pace as we are rebalancing some of those sales and see very good demand for our collections. The net of the two is the mid-single digits that I was commenting on.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

If I can build on, independent from GV, which somehow is the past, I think the results in Europe are honestly very encouraging and above our expectations. First, it's broadly in almost all the countries in Europe, and is focused on our main brands. Which means that, you know, what we are doing in Europe is the right path, and it's also telling us that we've been able to open new, stronger relationships from both, on one side with the single opticians, but also on the other side with other European chains.

Andrea Bonfà
Director, Banca Akros

All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from Cedric Rossi of Bryan Garnier.

Cédric Rossi
Analyst, Bryan Garnier

Yes. Good evening, everyone. I have two questions. The first one is coming back on the to the U.S. market. You mentioned softer trends in the independent optician channel. I was just wondering why trends are softer there. Do you expect the rollout of the You& Safilo platform to maybe revitalize a little bit the momentum going forward? The second question is, I guess if I understood correctly, you were mentioning personal cost up 14% in Q1. What kind of labor inflation you are budgeting for this year? Thank you.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Okay. I think on the United States, and maybe on, I'll let Angelo comment on the trends in the channel, but with regards to You&Safilo, this is on our roadmap for next year. This year we are upgrading all the legacy ERP systems that we have there, and we are well on track. The You&Safilo will then be what we will do next, exactly in line with our strategy. On the increase of the overheads, let me say that roughly half of that increase is driven by new headcounts that we are putting, especially onto our brands in the markets, and on the digital side. Another half is coming from inflationary pressures. I mean, we are seeing somewhere in the range of 3%-4% increase, but I think it's something that if you look at the progress of the gross margin, where precisely the pricing interventions that we have been doing last year, and that we will selectively obviously continue to look at also this year, they are constructed to offset that kind of inflation, and we are able to actually much more than offset that, as we were saying.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Yeah. In terms of North America, I mean, first of all, I think just to build on, obviously the rollout of You&Safilo needs some time to explore. I mean, our learning in Europe is that, you know, you need to have time because it's really sort of different way how to run the business. Anyhow, the effect will be starting from the H2 of 2024. With reference to the channel, I think in this moment, in North America, we see two different trends. If I look to, you know, we have some sell-out data, the sell-out is not so bad. I think we see more a problem or a sort of, the customer are more reluctant to buy product.

This is reflected to the fact that we see worse performance in the retail and in the chain more than in the single optician. In other words, what I'm saying, it looks for us from the number that we have, is more a customer issue than I consume issue. I'm not saying that the consumer is relaxed, but it's more the customer which are a little bit nervous on the cash. We see more negative numbers in the retail, in the chain more than in optician. The second paradox is that the luxury, which obviously sounds really as a contradiction, the luxury is the part of the portfolio which goes better than the rest. We see that the part of our brands which are close to the luxury, the luxury part of the market, are the brands which are performing better. In this moment, there is a little bit of strange picture. More customer than consumer, more retail and chain than optician, and more mid, low part of the market versus the luxury. I would summarize like this, the picture that we see in North America.

Cédric Rossi
Analyst, Bryan Garnier

Okay, very clear. Thank you, Angelo and Gert.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Domenico Ghilotti of Equita.

Domenico Ghilotti
Co-Head of Research Team, Equita

Good afternoon. I have two question. The first is related to your brands, in particular, Blenders and Smith. You were mentioning the bad weather condition in March 2023. I frankly speaking, don't know if April 2023 was at a more normal in terms of weather conditions. In general, if you can, what is your expectation for Blenders for this year, considering also the price positioning of the brand? On Smith, if you see clearly we are seeing really some tough comps on some segments. If you see some normalization already happening, or if you have to wait for a few quarters to get the full normalization. The second question is on the gross margin and operating cost. Was quite significant improvement that you had at gross profit level. On the other end, it's a more muted EBITDA. I'm trying to understand if this, if you see this kind of trend continuing all over 2023 or more concentrated in the first part, and if you can keep up the margin, the gross margin expansion that you have been able to deliver in Q1.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

I start answering, then I leave to Gert. I start answering from your last question, just for my bit. I think here the point is, we try to be consistent with what we have been said. Let me say, it was easy for us. It could have been easier for us to starting from a higher gross profit to deliver a higher EBITDA. The decision has been, let's keep investing behind our brand. The difference in terms of marketing investment, which you sort of run the graph is roughly 140 basis points, the effect of the marketing has been all concentrated behind our brand. That has been at this on our own brand. This has been a decision, you know, because as if you remember, as what we were saying in the presentation of the plan, we will keep investing. We need to keep investing. In quarter one, we took a sort of conscious decision to keep investing. Obviously, the level of investment in quarter one will go down along the rest of the year. We felt that we've done a very interesting and new activation on Carrera or with the sponsoring the Coachella. We've been investing with Smith behind our D2C. Our D2C in Smith has been growing. Blenders, we need to keep nurturing the brand. It's been really a conscious decision.

Obviously, the level of investment will be evened down for the rest of the year. For the rest of the question, I think Gert will answer. Going to Blenders and Smith, I mean, let's start from Smith. Obviously, Smith comes from a huge comparison of the previous year. There are two effects. One is bike. I think that you can read everywhere that obviously this year is a little bit of a soft period for the bike. To be honest, we need also to wait a little bit because there's been a cold season in North America with bad weather. Obviously we had the positive effect on the snow, but the bike season hasn't started yet. To be honest, to really understand where, how the bike is going to perform this year, we need to wait at least a couple of months. But sure, there is one element. Comparison, strong comparison, effect of the bike, and what I said before on North America is also true for Smith, where the customer are really, really reluctant to stock more. Smith is a brand that it will keep growing this year as it has been growing. Obviously, cannot be at the same level rate of the last two years, but Smith will keep growing this year by the end of the year. Blenders is a mixture of things. Weather is not an excuse.

I mean, California this year looks, I don't know, it's been the most rainy period of the time. To be honest, till we start January, February very well, March has not been so good. I think the fundamental of Blenders are there. I think Blenders should keep growing, softer than Smith, Blenders should be growing this year. Obviously, we need to wait a little bit of the season. I mean, Blenders is a brand of sun, we need to wait now, the next two, three months, at the end Blenders remain a sun brand. I don't see any reason. The fundamental are right, the fundamental are there. Again, it's not going to change the picture of this year, but you know that we are sponsoring Red Bull. We are just also using all the halo effect of Red Bull Formula 1. It will be something. It's not going to change the numbers and the P&L this year, but it will be helping the brand equity of Blenders outside North America.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Maybe to close on the, on the gross margin. Indeed, I think the 340 basis points, that was an excellent start to the year. This was exactly our ambition also in the strategic plan. That is where we see the source of additional EBITDA margin eventually to come to us from now until 2027. We are making intentional and discretionary investments exactly into marketing and into digital, just as we have in mind in our plan. Along with the seasonality of the year, we should expect Q1 and Q2 to have a higher level of gross margin. Then in Q3 and Q4, we should have a lower level of gross margin because that is also the pacing of our, of our sales. The same is a bit with marketing costs and with the costs of the digital, so everything which is software as a service. They are going to be higher in H1, and then they're going to normalize in H2. I think this dynamic will allow us, as we have also been saying in the capital markets day, to come up with a improvement on our marginality on the full year basis, even if the top line would be rather flattish.

Domenico Ghilotti
Co-Head of Research Team, Equita

Okay, maybe a follow-up on a topic that you discussed before that was at the inventory level and your working capital. Typically, Q1 is a quarter in which you build up inventories. I wonder, how are you managing the situation which you see maybe also your clients more reluctant to stock, how are you adjusting, say, the purchasing, the inventory build up?

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

Let's say that, first of all, the logistical situation has improved quite dramatically. You may remember last year with all the, you know, the lockdown situation still in China, we had periods of delays all the time, especially on sport. Nowadays, with the whole reopening since the beginning of the year, there's also a lot more flights, there's a lot more sea routes. The whole logistical situation has improved, which allows us to also operate with more reasonable lead times because we have more assurance that we can get the product on time, when we need it. I think that, with regards to North America, we're obviously monitoring this situation, which, you know, the, l et me say the softness of North America didn't start yesterday. It's already something we saw in Q4. We have been already more prudent with our inventory plans there. While in Europe, as we have seen, I mean, the stock is rotating quite nicely. We feel that we are able to manage the supply chain in a way that is commensurate with the sales that we are, that we're gonna see.

Domenico Ghilotti
Co-Head of Research Team, Equita

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, please press star and one for questions. For any further questions, please press star and one on your touchtone telephone. Ferrante, gentlemen, there are no questions registered at this time.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

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Barbara Ferrante
Director of Investor Relations, Safilo Group

Sorry, I'm just going to read a question coming from the website. Adam Crocker is asking for some early insight on our new Blenders store in Santa Monica and other upcoming locations.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

Okay. I mean, the shop has just been opened this season. You know, in Santa Monica, it hasn't start. First feedback of Santa Monica, very good. For this year, we have now the right number because we have San Diego, we have Encinitas, we have Austin, we have Houston, we have Santa Monica.

Gert Graeser
CFO, Safilo Group

We may do one in the [second half] of the world.

Angelo Trocchia
CEO, Safilo Group

A nd we will open another one, and that's it for this year. We need to consolidate, we are preparing the plan for the year to come. Now let's consolidate what we have. Let's take the learning and, you know, we will walk before running on the retail.

Okay. Thanks very much. Thanks for everyone, have a nice evening. Thanks very much.

Operator

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