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Earnings Call: Q4 2020

Feb 25, 2021

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Tenaris SA Fourth Quarter and Full Year twenty twenty Results Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Giovanni Sardagna.

Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Gigi, and welcome to Canaris twenty twenty fourth quarter and annual results conference call. Before we start, I would like to remind you that we will be discussing forward looking information in the call and that our actual results may vary from those expressed or implied during this call. With me on the call today are Paulo Rocca, our Chairman and CEO Alicia Mondolo, our Chief Financial Officer Guillermo Fogel, Vice Chairman and member of our Board of Directors German Cura, Vice Chairman and Member of our Board of Directors Gabriel Popkuska, President of our Eastern Hemisphere Operations and Luca Zanotti, President of our U. S. Operations.

Before passing over the call to Paulo for his opening remarks, I would like to briefly comment our quarterly results. During the fourth quarter of twenty twenty, sales reached 1,100,000,000.0 down 35% compared with those of the corresponding quarter of the previous year, but up 12% sequentially, driven by a gradual recovery in drilling activity in The Americas and a good mix of products sold in The Middle East. Our quarterly EBITDA at €192,000,000 which included several charges of €37,000,000 and one off gains of €70,000,000 rose 79% sequentially, reflecting a better industrial performance and the operating leverage of higher volumes on a lower fixed cost base after the restructuring measures implemented during the year. Our quarterly EBITDA margin recovered to 17%. Average selling prices in our tube operating segment declined 2% compared to the corresponding quarter of 2019, but were up 2% sequentially.

During the quarter, cash flow from operation was €139,000,000 Our net cash position remained stable at 1,100,000,000.0 following the payment of an interim dividend of EUR 83,000,000 in November and capital expenditures of EUR 38,000,000. Board of Directors has decided to propose for the approval of the Annual General Shareholders' Meeting to be held at the May, the payment of an annual dividend of €0.21 per share or €0.42 per ADR, which includes the interim dividend of $0.07 per share or $0.13 per ADR that we paid at the November. If approved, a dividend of $0.13 per share or €0.28 per ADR will be paid on May 26. Now I will ask Paulo to say a few words before we open the call to questions.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Giovanni, and good morning to all of you. 2020 was a particular year which has left an invaluable mark on the world. The pandemic is reshaping societal expectations and changing established priorities. But it is still too early to understand the full extent of the transformation that it will bring. The energy transition is also accelerating.

We, as a company, wish to maintain flexibility in the short run as we redefine our strategy and action to meet the new reality. At Cenaris, we opened the year by concluding the acquisition of Fritzka and with the expectation that U. Drilling activity would soon start to recover after a near long decline. Instead, shortly after, everything changed as the pandemic spread rapidly around the world. From one day to the next, demand for our products and services began to shrink, and our way of working changed.

Global oil demand collapsed and oil prices weakened, even becoming negative at one point. In The U. S, drilling activity plunged precipitously, and we had to close most of our newly acquired facilities. The challenge involved every aspect of our business and affected all of our employees. We had to adopt new safety protocols to assure the safety of all the person entering our plants and offices to halt production while minimizing labor cost inefficiencies as demand plummeted to provide support for the medical system in many of our communities to find new ways of meeting customer commitments to change the way we work and communicate all while implementing an intense restructuring program to ensure financial stability and long term sustainability for our company.

We responded rapidly and have been disciplined in implementing our objectives. I would like to give a special thanks to all our employees for the way they adapted to the circumstances and their contribution to our efforts. Since the start of the pandemic, we have had a total of two thousand two hundred and fifty percent affected by the virus among employees and contractors and an infection rate of little over ten percent. Currently, we have less than one hundred active cases, and we still have five fifty people in the at risk category who are prevented from coming to work. At the same time, we maintained the improvement we made over the past year in our safety indicators.

Our contributions to reinforcing the medical infrastructure and equipment in our communities have been very well received. Leveraging our global procurement structure, we delivered ventilators, intensive care unit, equipment unit and personal protection equipment. Founded four new field hospitals in our diverse communities. Our employees were quick to show solidarity and initiative. At the onset of the pandemic in Bergamo, which was then the epicenter of the contagion in Europe, they worked tirelessly to produce oxygen cylinder for the local hospitals, while in Campana in Argentina, they designed and produced more than 80,000 face shield for medical staff, first responders in the local community using one of our finishing lines.

In addition to maintaining service quality in a rapidly changing environment, we reinforced our Rig Direct customer program by integrating digital initiatives aimed at simplifying operational and administrative processes and making them more reliable. In The U. S, for example, twothree of callouts made to our Rig Direct customers are now made through our Rig Direct port. And customers are starting to use our Pipe Tracer system to perform digital service. We will continue to deepen these digital integration initiatives to reinforce service differentiations and customer loyalty.

To secure the financial stability of the company, we implemented a detailed plan to reduce our fixed cost structure by $212,000,000 or 25% by the 2020 and to generate cash through reducing inventories, managing the receivable closely and reducing investment. We have met or exceeded our target, generating $1,300,000,000 in free cash flow for the over the year, which includes a $1,100,000,000 reduction in working capital. Our net income, excluding impairment and restructuring charges, remained positive. In the fourth quarter, we ended the year with a higher EBITDA margin than we had at the 2019 despite a 35% drop in revenue globally. With these results, a strong balance sheet and a brighter outlook ahead, we are proposing to reinstate the annual dividend at 50% of the level it was prior to the pandemic.

As drilling activity in North America picks up, we are strengthening our position in The U. S. And Canadian market, building on our Rig Direct service proposition, consolidating our offer of Tenaris hybrid wedge connection products and taking advantage of the market opportunities offered by consolidation in the shale sector and the competitive environment. We are preparing to operate Bay City at full capacity and to start up the Cocktail SteelShop and Amber's seamless pipe mill together with their associated finishing facilities later this year as the market continues to improve. Meanwhile, we are proceeding with our investment to integrate seamless, premium and welded pipe production at our mailing source of marine in Canada after closing the Prudential mailing calder.

In offshore markets, we have strengthened our provision through the introduction of BlueDog Connector in the Gulf Of Mexico and Gojana, while in Brazil, we are also successfully introducing our seamless riser product to replace flexible riser solution. In Argentina, the implementation of a new planned gas is helping to reactivate activity in the Raca Muerta shale play. In The Middle East, we are supplying the casing for the expansion of the North field in Qatar, which will provide the gas for the recently sanctioned Qatar LNG expansion. This product will include our DOPLESS technology, which is now firmly established in this market. Also, demand in The Middle East during 2021 will be affected by ongoing destocking in key markets.

We continue to consolidate our position in The United Arab Emirates with investment in a premium trading facility, which will begin operations in 2022. Looking ahead, our raw material cost will be higher. But also, pipe prices are moving up, as shown in the Pipe Logic Index, which has risen 23% since the recent bottom in August 2019. Our increased operating leverage, this will contribute to further margin improvement during the year. Decrevolution has become a major issue for all of the world, and in particular, for our industry.

Yesterday, our Board of Directors approved a medium term target to reduce the carbon emission intensity of our operation by 30% from a 2018 baseline and the introduction of an internal carbon price of $80 per ton to accelerate the investment necessary to achieve this target and our long term objective of eventually reaching carbon neutral. We will give additional transparency and evaluation to this program, which will follow on a quarterly basis in our Board when we join the carbon disclosure project. This will be will become an even more important part of our agenda in the coming years. We can now receive all the questions you may have.

Speaker 1

Our first question comes from the line of Igor Levi from BTIG. Your line is now open.

Speaker 2

Thank you. So as you mentioned, 2020 generated over $1,000,000,000 in free cash flow from working capital, maybe about $200,000,000 from operations. Does the working capital tailwind turn into a headwind in 2021 as the market recovers? What is the best way for us to think about free cash flow this year?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Igor, for your question. No doubt, 2020, we have been able to do an extraordinary effort in reduction of our working capital. Now the market is picking up. Our volume is picking up. And we need to start building back some of our working capital starting in the first quarter of twenty twenty one.

You also have to consider that even in the fourth quarter twenty twenty, we anticipate some procurement of some of our metallic envisaging the price increase that was coming. So to some extent, we started increasing some of our working capital even in some items during the 4Q. In the first year, we will recover. But then I think we will be able, among all, to continue to maintain a strict discipline in our working capital in the following quarter. The level of operation will also be relevant for this.

Speaker 2

Great. Thank you for that. And could you provide a little more color on the pilot projects around carbon capture and hydrogen? And what is the roadmap like to grow that business? Would you plan to develop it mostly internally?

Or would you also be looking to make bolt on acquisitions in this space?

Speaker 3

Well, we are very confident in exploring new avenues to reduce the carbon contract of our product. And in this sense, the pilot project that we are launching on hydrogen is an interesting attempt. We will basically use renewable power energy together with our partner in this project, which is Edison and NAM, for transforming its electrolyzer in hydrogen, for feeding hydrogen to our electrical furnaces and to the extent possible to the heat treatment in our plant in Dalmina. This is, let's say, first pilot project in which we will explore the feasibility, the cost and the complexity and the technological requirement for utilization of hydrogen in substituting carbon in for heat purposes. This will be a first project.

We estimate that at this moment, this project may be economically viable if we consider the cost of carbon in the range of $80 to $100 There will be we will use support financial support from the European community if we come to explore this project. And by adopting an internal value for carbon, we will reevaluate investment in the different area of the company in light of carbon emission and see where we can eventually extend similar projects or substitute traditional carbon with renewable or projects for sheet utilization in some of the states.

Speaker 2

Great. Thank you. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ian MacPherson from Simmons. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hi, thanks. Paolo, you mentioned the raw material inflation, which we've seen has been staggering recently, but you are getting pricing to offset that. And when we think about your goal towards getting to 20% EBITDA margins over the course of this year, what level of average selling price do you need to average into in order to get to 20% margins relative to where your Q4 ASP was?

Speaker 3

Well, thank you, Iain, for your question. I would say that to evaluate the evolution of our cost of goods sold, you should consider the cost of the input like metallics that are getting into our cost of sales gradually because of the inventory rollover. So this will enter gradually into our cost of steel. But then also the increase in production will improve absorption. So this is also important in the evolution of our cost.

On the other side, on the prices, up to now, the Pipe Logix went up by around 23 percent since, let's say, August up to now. Also this price increase will continue because if you look at the structure of the pricing, pyelogic is driven by welded and seamless. But in the case of welded, the increase has been 28%, reflecting the extraordinary increase in the household coils, not only in The United States but also elsewhere in the world. So the increase in price, in our view, will gradually get into our sale and also the cost will increase. But we think that we can reach and maintain a margin in the range of 20%, considering some additional increase of the Pipe Logix, not much compared to the step that has been done up to now.

Speaker 4

Okay, understood. Thank you. I also wanted to ask about your insights into The U. S. Land market.

I think we've been positively surprised by your results so far and your expectations for this year, given that the recovery has been driven so much by the private E and Ps and we think of your business being much more oriented towards the bigger players. And so maybe you can speak to the recent evolution expectation going forward with your customer book as the more commodity price sensitive privates are driving the increase of the interior of activity so far. And when you think well, what sort of visibility you have really for your larger independent and E and P customers to get back in the saddle and add more activity in the second half of this year or into next year? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you, again, Ioann. Well, our view of the dynamic of activity in The United States probably not considering now the level of price of oil above 60% that we see today. Now this may introduce some additional level of activity because in the end, shields are showing increased free cash flow now with the price of oil at $60.62. They are adding cash flow to this, and we will see how they will react.

But I will ask Luca Gianotti to give a view on the dynamics of different clients in The U. S.

Speaker 5

Yes, Paulo. Good morning, everybody. Thank you, Jan, for the question. Now on top of Paolo, I think, I would add that, yes, we are seeing the market to continually improving because as you probably have listened to some of the large independents conference call, they are thinking to gradually step in and increase activity. But there are two additional effects that I would like to mention that are relevant for Tenaris, at least in The United States.

First is the effect of the consolidation. You know that we have been seeing consolidation. And so far, we have been able to roll out our contracts to the company that have been acquired by our customer historical customers. And we think that this will continue going forward given the long relationship that we have and all the tools that we introduced, the technology that is helping them to reach a longer lateral. So we think that this will continue.

So I believe that this is something that is also important. And as Paulo was mentioning before, third, with dollars $55 a barrel, the great majority of the shale plays are profitable. So it's going to be a decision of the operators on where they want to invest their proceedings. We believe that also towards the end of the year, if the situation maintains good level, in general, we're going to see the bigger guy to even increase further. So I believe that these three points are explaining a little bit our forward looking

Speaker 6

environment.

Speaker 4

That's great. Thank you, Luca. Thanks, Paolo. I'll pass it over to Eric.

Speaker 1

You. Our next question comes from the line of Sean Meakim from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I thought maybe

Speaker 7

we could follow-up on the energy transition topic. Could you maybe just elaborate on any incremental technological capabilities that maybe you don't have today that could be necessary to take on a leadership role, whether it's hydrogen, carbon capture, whether it's necessary to pursue some of these with internal R and D or if there could be technology bolt on acquisitions that may help you in those pursuits?

Speaker 3

Thank you, John. Well, first, Tenaris, because of its process based on electric arc furnace, is today emitting much less than the average in the industry. And the other variation that is using iron ore is using in Argentina on the ARI, so also with a very limited carbon. Now we see the target you have seen the target that we set for 02/1930. A reduction of 30% could be achieved within the existing technology, heat recovery, intervention of on the electric arc furnaces, reduction of weight in some of our operation and better use or better, let's say, selection of supplier in our operations so we can reduce Scope one, two, three overall by around 30.

Now when we think about 02/1950, we will need to introduce disruptive technologies We are considering offsetting investment in renewables to support part of our system. So we are looking globally at all what we can do to decarbonize our chain. But this will require five or 10 different endeavor to explore possibility opportunity for reduction. In terms of carbon capture and storage, we may have or participate in projects jointly with other companies.

And if we capture part of the carbon we are emitting, this will not be something that could be done on the scale of our operation. It needs to be integrated into projects with other companies. These are only, let's say, ideas. On that side, Tenaris could be very important in promoting decarbonization and promoting expansion of the project that may be relevant in this sense. I'll give you an example on hydrogen.

We are producing more cylinder for very high pressure hydrogen. We are producing pipe for infrastructure used in the hydrogen chain. We are also important in supporting projects that are focused on carbon capture and storage. One example is Northern Light in North Sea. I mean the know how that we develop on metallurgy, on steelmaking and on all the chain of our production could be very important in all of the segments of technologies that could contribute to decarbonization.

We will be making, and we will actively start in this. But today, we have no road map clear for, let's say, the second step of decarbonization that grant us, let's say, that could make the definition of a reasonable target for, for instance, 02/2006.

Speaker 7

Very interesting and very helpful. Thank you. Offshore activity today is pretty challenged, but we did have a lot of FIDs into 2019 and they'll need to ramp activity in 2022 and 2023. Can you maybe just talk about which markets you see offshore as most attractive medium term? I think Brazil looks like one market, maybe just broader South America, North Sea could be another, perhaps Asia Pac to some degree.

Just how are you seeing the offshore markets on a medium term basis?

Speaker 3

Well, if we look at the perspective of offshore, let's focus on, let's say, the deep offshore in which we have a suite of products that are pretty unique and on which we can have an important leverage. Well, the regions are basically the South America and Brazil and Guyana is North Of Mexico, is North Sea and Far East to some extent. We also, to a lesser extent, some development in Africa that will be important. We are present in all of them. But I would ask Gabriel, the responsible for this and this year, to start on them with some of the projects that could be relevant from this part, if I understand well your question.

Gabriel, could you follow-up on this? And then Luca could comment briefly on Gulf Of Mexico.

Speaker 6

Hello?

Speaker 2

Gabriel?

Speaker 3

I don't know if Luca is on the line. Is that Yes.

Speaker 5

I can take it over while

Speaker 3

On the Gulf Of Mexico segment.

Speaker 5

Yes. As you said, Paolo, we are present in all the developments that are now going on and are forecasted to start in the Gulf Of Mexico. And in some cases, we are also increasing our participation, let's say, shifting the technology towards our top list. And so I believe that as far as Gulf Of Mexico is concerned, we are very well placed. Not to mention then Guyana, where there is this big Exxon projects going on.

And even there, we are the incumbent and we are well placed in continuing, let's say, leveraging these opportunities. So as Gulf Of Mexico sorry, as offshore is going to improve, we're going to see also our activity improving in this respect. I don't know

Speaker 3

if Just to remind, we have a very complete suite of products for shore and speciality offshore. We go from the connector to the riser to all the parts of the column in the most demanding high pressure, high temperature products for beef dribbled with the beef offshore deepwater. This is recognized by the operator, not only in Gulf Of Mexico, but also in Brazil, in Guyana, where we work with all of the major. I don't know if Gabriel is

Speaker 6

Yes. Hello, Paulo. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes.

Speaker 3

Hello? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 6

Okay. Yes,

Speaker 3

we can hear Okay,

Speaker 6

great. Sorry, I got disconnected. I called back. So Sean, on the point of offshore in the Eastern Hemisphere, first, I would comment that the drilling activity in Eastern Hemisphere in the major offshore basins have been decreasing over the last twelve months. We are probably running today at a level of about 35% below the levels that we had at the below the before the pandemic.

So this is what we see today. We expect this to be the bottom, and we foresee a gradual recovery of a pickup of activity towards especially the second half of the year. The key areas that probably were going to lead this increase are the core countries in The Middle East, could be Saudi Arabia, could be Qatar, UAE, Kuwait. These are the areas that we they have some onshore and some offshore activity as well. And these are going to as the curtailment of production reduces during the year, we see this increase in production supporting a higher level of activity.

The other basins of North Sea, West Africa, Southeast Asia will remain challenged. It will take longer to this for these markets to recover. We're going to see some pockets associated mainly with gas, maybe Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Egypt, Mozambique as well. So some projects exploration that is going on related to gas developments, either for export or existing infrastructure or domestic markets, those are going to be areas of interest into the future, but it will take a while before these markets pick up again activity.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Gabriel. As far as the South America, I mentioned. But I think that Brazil and Guyana will be will increase and will expand on a long run. And so our, let's say, dynamic offshore deepwater area in which we are very pleased.

Speaker 7

Very good. Thanks for all that detail.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Marc Bianchi from Cowen. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 8

I wanted to follow-up on the margin and pricing discussion. I heard that the Pipe Logix is up 23% from August and the expectation to get to your 20% is that it doesn't need to go up quite that much. The increase from here would be less than 23%. I'm curious, if you don't get that increase, what would margins look like? Because there is some component of operating leverage that you mentioned.

And then the next question is what kind of increase? Is it something like 2% or 3%? Or are we talking about a 15% type increase that you would need?

Speaker 3

You, Marc. Well, on one side, the increase that I mentioned is I mean, in the index is the historical index. I mean, the index that comes out yesterday is showing the increase that I mentioned overall. So today, many of the formula that we have start to incorporate this increase. Now the point is, in the coming months, the price of pipe continues to increase to reflect, let's say, the stronger cost the higher cost of the raw material.

In my view, yes, we'll not increase at the same pace, but we will have additional increase. Now considering what has been in the market, there is, let's say, the reference for any new contract, plus or minus, it depends from negotiation from the difference in product, in terms and service, but this is reference for a new contract. So it is something that is in the market today. So we are pretty confident that on top of what has been done, drydet will continue to increase. Also, think that will face a price of hot rolled coils or iron ore and of commodity relatively high for a while.

I mean it's not that we are in a spike, but I think that there is demand. And if we assume that stimulus in The United States and additional stimulus in the other region, some increased mobility because of the progress of vaccination, everything should drive the economy into a rebound and to some extent, preserve up trend in cost but also in price in our product. This is the view we have, and this is the view on which it based our vision of a medium term 20% margin, compensating with price, which we perceive as the increase in costs that we're getting. And as I was mentioning before, in terms of absorption, keep in mind that if the market really progress and we put into operation facility in The United States in Copper, in Cambridge and a finishing facility, there will be some stock buildup that will also absorb some of our absorb some of our fixed cost.

Speaker 8

Thank you for that, Paolo. I guess following on to that, you've had some nice improvements in your just in the way you run your business, right, larger proportion of Rig Direct in North America. You've done the M and A, which gets you more integrated. I'm curious now, do you think what do you think the medium term or long term margin profile is for the business as it exists today? Could we be into the mid-20s?

Or do you care to put a number out there?

Speaker 3

You are referring to the margin, the midterm to long term margin in The U. S. Market or do mean for as a whole for our business?

Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you very much. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 3

No, sorry, because I understand you were referring to overall margin on North America because the line is not so good enough. If you can repeat the question on Yes, this sure.

Speaker 8

Certainly. The question is, you've made some structural improvements to your business. You've taken the cost out. You've gotten more integration and more rig direct. But even still with these high raw materials, you think you're going to be to 20% in the back half of this year.

I'm wondering if as we get into 2022 and beyond, what type of margin would we expect for your overall business compared to this 20% level? Could we be seeing something at 25% or higher than that? What's your medium to long term expectation for the overall company?

Speaker 3

Well, I don't think it will depend on the level of recovery and the level of drilling and activity. We have today around 400 rigs in the state. The bottom has been two fifty rigs. And now we are in the range of 400 rigs under Baker Hughes. We expect that this number of rigs could increase to around 500 rigs by the end of the year.

But if the drilling activity and free cash flow of the company allow, let's say, higher investments in The United States and the recovery also in the East Hemisphere, well, with the price of oil relatively higher than what it is today, we will obviously have more pricing power an environment that is more dynamic. But it's difficult to say this today.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Frank McGann from Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Hi, thank you very much. I wanted to just ask your basically your view based on what you're seeing from your clients and in your conversations, and this falls a little bit up on an earlier question, but just with a little bit longer term view. There is a view that oil prices are going to stay quite robust and since you could go much higher over time, given that producers are going to continue to exercise significant capital discipline even with higher prices because of shareholder demands and their own concern for balance sheet, etcetera. I was just wondering, do you see that happening? Do you think that the main companies, your largest customers anyways are likely to continue for an extended period to see very limited activity for those reasons?

Or do you think over time things can loosen up pretty substantially if we continue to see oil staying at 65%, 70% and potentially higher?

Speaker 3

Well, I think that we are talking here about very different players. You have player like the major that are promoting large complex projects that, for sure, are following discipline in the project. So you can expect that the progress in big complex projects offshore, deepwater and so on will be, to some extent, contained. Then you have The Middle East. The player that has large reserve and they are playing a different game.

They want to remain the key supplier. This is also true for Russia. I mean, player that's better on the fact that any transition will anyway require important supply of oil and gas to the world. These players are following their own strategy. Then even in U.

S, you have a divided opinion because there are companies that are focusing on cash flow, dividend and shareholder, others that are betting. They are betting that if the transition, the energy transition will anyway leave space for oil and gas and the price of oil and gas could be assuring important return. They look at issue like the Texas freeze, and they perceive that imbalance in the energy system, they offer opportunity. So if a diverse group of players. And there are players that are very disciplined and wants to shift out from this, but there are others that want to take the place that the first one are leaving.

So in my view, you cannot have, let's say, one attitude fits all. And in this environment, I frankly think that investment in oil and gas, maybe by different players in The U. S. And outside, will continue. Maybe the more complex project will be proceeding or at a more careful pace.

Speaker 9

Okay. Does that it sounds like you believe then that, that can lead to, at least over a period of time or a number of years, a pretty substantial recovery in activity?

Speaker 3

I think that any transition associated with expansion of the world economy will require, let's say, substantial investment in the fossil oil and gas, especially in the coming years. So this is not a transition that could be done without substantial investment. There are companies that bet on this. There are companies that bet on reducing their exposure. We have to follow this.

But in the end, in an aggregate view, I think that the there will be recovery in 2022 and beyond. And if the growth in the emerging market continues, this will need to be substantial. Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alan Spence from Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

Thanks and good afternoon. I've got two questions and I'll take them one at a time. The first one is around working capital. You've released about $1,600,000,000 combined in the last two years. Is there any component of this that we should think is structural?

Or is it going to be predominantly cyclical and ultimately, the next few years come back in?

Speaker 3

If I'll handle the first question, it's concerning our working capital. There will be a recovery of working capital because when especially in the first quarter, and probably because the volume is increasing and we have to activate some of the longer lead time road. There will be a recovery in the working capital need. And then there is, I would say, a second issue that is when we activate copper, steelmaking in The United States, finishing in United States, these new mills may require and will require some working capital. On the other side, the introduction of much higher level of digitalization, programming and, let's say, designing of production into the system, there is something that is part of our digital transformation, will contribute to a strict discipline in the existing facility.

So the combination of these two, in my view, will not bring back Tenaris to the same level of inventory that we had in the past. But we will increase our inventory requirements in the first quarter and to some extent also in the second quarter while we are completing the start up of the plant.

Speaker 10

Okay. And the second one on this 30% reduction in CO2 intensity. If I understood correctly for an earlier question, I think you said that could be achieved with your current portfolio of assets. Does that mean that you don't foresee any material increase in CapEx related to achieving that those targets medium term?

Speaker 3

Well, we will have to invest. We are as you see, our investment has been reduced in 2020 by to around €200,000,000 Now in 2021, we plan to remain in the range of $200,000,000 of CapEx, including some of the first in the

Speaker 8

line

Speaker 3

investment in energy savings are including also, let's say, the start up investment in the translation of the plant of Prudential to Sao St. Marie in Canada and the venture in Emirates and Israel. So this will be the range of investment for Total two. Then I think that the decision on of CapEx for the following year will very much depend on the evolution of the market in the second part of twenty twenty two. The investment to reach the reduction in our carbon of 30% are, let's say, in a period of three, four year, not, let's say, of an order of magnitude that is strong.

We think that we will require in the range of $150,000,000 in the coming full year to reach the target of 30% reduction.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Anderson from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker 11

Hey, good afternoon. Just a question on The U. S. OCTG market. Where do you think the inventory overhang is today, somewhere you're keeping an eye on?

And I'm just curious how much has come down and where you think it needs to come down, how much more needs to come down before demand starts to truly improve, just looking at The U. S. Land market?

Speaker 3

Thank you, David. On this, I will ask Luca to give an overview of how we see the situation of the stock in the market.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you, Paolo. Morning, Dave. In The U. S, as we speak, we see a level of inventory in the range of six to six point five months of inventory, which, as you know, is starting to get in a situation in which, in some cases and some items, we're going to be short.

And you can easily see this when you look at the Pipe Logix detail as well. Now going forward, I believe that we're going to see a little bit of additional decrease. But then when production in The States and to a certain extent imports will begin, the situation is going to be stabilizing. And this is basically it as far as the inventory on the ground in The United States are concerned.

Speaker 11

Okay, great. Thank you. My other question is probably for Gabriel. I don't if he's still on the line. But you had indicated The Middle East was pretty strong for you this quarter.

It's not something we've heard from the service companies so far. Haven't seen really rigs being picked up and we're generally hearing kind of Middle East NOCs are planning to ramp up in the second half of 'twenty. So I guess I'm just wondering, are you seeing your customers in The Middle East starting to order OCTG in advance of that? I guess I'm just wondering, are we starting to see the beginning of potentially a prolonged international cycle?

Speaker 3

Well, on this, will ask Gabriel. He is very close to the major client in Middle East to give his view. Gabriel, it's up to you.

Speaker 5

I had

Speaker 11

a feeling we're going have that problem. That's okay. He can follow-up with me afterwards, but

Speaker 3

thank you very much. I can tell you. Our view in general, I can tell you, is that the rig went down during this period and didn't recover yet. We expect 2021 to be subdued in The Middle East. Even if the projects that we see in Qatar, the unconventional in Saudi are sustained and substantial.

ADNOC has very important plan. But we will see this more in 2022 than in 2021. This is relevant for us because, I mean, we expect our probably our sales to be more contained in during 2021. This is important because some of our very special products are going in-depth part of the world. But still, we are very confident in the recovery in 2022.

Speaker 11

Great. Makes sense. Thank you

Speaker 3

very much. Thank

Speaker 1

you. Our next question comes from the line of Amy Wong from UBS. Your line is now open.

Speaker 12

Hi, there. A couple of questions from me, please. The first one relates to I think you mentioned you guys have an award for Qatar LNG Northfield expansion. Can you give a bit more color on that project, what you're delivering there, whether it's casing, line pipe or both and kind of when those deliveries will start for you? That's my first question, please.

Speaker 3

Just to clarify, you were mentioning the project in Qatar, if I understand well? Sorry, because the line is not so clear. Is it true?

Speaker 12

Yes. Yes, sorry. Yes, Qatar Northfield, you mentioned in your opening remarks that you guys have won some work there. So I just want to get a bit more color on the size of the award, when it's when you're going to start delivering.

Speaker 3

What I can add is that the program that Qatar has in mind They divide the North Sea into and they will develop this. We have a very solid relation and we developed for this project duplex product that are very much appreciated by Cookie. And let's say, we will be the supplier of this product. Now in our understanding, Qatar is proceeding aggressively.

Again, we will have the project is a long term project, so we will have demand growing in 2020. We expect respect to 2019. And we will stay 2021 more or less in the same level. But the project is very important. The relation is strong.

Product development and persistence, solid. And I think we have a good opportunity for the long run while they develop stores of LNG. They have a big program for enhancing production of LNG, and they need the gas coming from North Sea. I don't know if Gabriel is back for additional comments or color on the industry. If Gabriel is back, I will ask him to add his comments.

Speaker 6

Yes, Paolo, I'm back. Apologies for the difference with the line today. I guess the topic was Qatar project LNG, correct?

Speaker 13

Yes.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 6

Okay. Yes. Okay. Yes, this has been an important project that we have been sourcing for the last couple of years. This is under the framework of a multiyear agreement that we have with Qatar Gas, the major operator of the LNG in Qatar, which they have recently this quarter FID and our first expansion.

This is we are having a dominance there in this important development. Majority of the supply is with our dopless technologies. The drilling team in Qatar has selected the technology based on its safety and efficiency concerns. So this is something that will have pushed our shipments supporting 2020 and is something that we expect to increase into 2021 and beyond. This has been one of the pockets of highly differentiated products that helps our shipments into 2020.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you, Gabriel. Okay.

Speaker 12

Thank you for that. I just have another separate question unrelated to that. And it's regarding your target of reducing carbon emissions intensity by 30% in 02/1930. Could you talk a little bit more about how you're defining that? Is it your total CO2 emissions over the tons of tubes produced?

But just give a bit more color on what metric you're using and give us what the baseline you're measuring against is.

Speaker 3

We will define the we are following this on the speed scope, the Scope one of our emission, the Scope two of material and energy that we buy, electric energy that we buy, the Scope three with these materials that we acquire and carbon emitted in our chain. So we are, let's say, following the standard designed by the world steel, and we will have this in the process of qualifying for the carbon disclosure project. We will, let's say, set the key figure in a more precise and verifiable way. We plan also to ask to price water out when we issue our sustainability report to audit the data that we will present and the number that we will present. So we will be very demanding on the clarity of our definition, the transparency of our number and the clarity of our commitment.

And then we will follow this quarterly in our Board. Probably, we will have a full qualification of or full qualification by CDP maybe during next year because of the process of qualifying and presenting our case with the carbon disclosure program and get rated But this will be a process that will be, let's say, audited and qualified and followed with number that are in line according to the standard. We are also considering, let's say, to rely on the science based target process for defining with clarity the action that we are taking and the impact that we are expecting on our decarbonization road map.

Speaker 12

Great. Thank you. Look forward to getting more information on that. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. You. Our next question comes from the line of Connor Lynagh from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Speaker 13

Yes, thank you. Thanks for squeezing me in. I just wanted to square some of the comments you made around Eastern Hemisphere. In the release, it sounded relatively conservative. You pointed to some longer term potential in The Middle East.

It sounds like offshore is probably maybe stable, but not really increasing much. I just sort of wanted to square that in light of the expectation that most of the OPEC producers will be raising production somewhat this year and the commentary that we've heard from the other service companies that suggest a second half ramp in Eastern Hemisphere activity. Do

Speaker 3

you think there's

Speaker 13

a destocking effect that you're pointing to? Or are you just being conservative because customers haven't communicated these plans yet? I'm just wondering if you could sort of square the circle in terms of why you wouldn't expect that to be recovering more significantly this year.

Speaker 3

Very good. Well, I don't know. On this issue, maybe if Gabriel recovered the 9,000,000 he may just add some comments. Will leave it maybe to you to add some color on the attitude that you see in our major clients in The Gulf.

Speaker 6

Yes. Thank you, Paolo. Thank you for the question. Indeed, the activity is expected to slowly go up for the major countries in The Middle East, especially in the second half from a low level. This is what we expect.

On the other hand, as you're pointing out, there has been there is a destocking, there is an efficiency and optimization of cash flow going on in some of the key markets in The Middle East. That's why with this subdued activity coupled with this delay in some shipments and purchases, we expect apparent demand and shipments in 2021 to be lower than in 2020. And as activity improved during this year and the purchasing cycle normalizes, That's why we expect a rebound into 2022.

Speaker 13

Okay. Got it. I mean, I guess, it's what it seems sorry. Yes, I guess, sort of follow-up here is you have these relatively large projects. I guess, just one small clarifying question.

You were alluding to the threading plant in The UAE being online next year. Are you going to be making shipments under the ADNOC contracts before that's completed? Or is that necessary in order for that to move forward? I think the prior expectation was back half this year that would start up. But I guess the follow-up question in a greater sense is, could you maybe level set once this destocking presumably activity is recovering?

It seems like you're setting up for with some of these specific things a relatively big year over year growth in 2022 in the Middle Eastern area. Could you maybe quantify at all how we should think about the magnitude of that?

Speaker 6

Yes. Indeed, related to The UAE, the mega tender contract that will last for at least five years and there are options to extend started in 2020 with very little shipment because as there is a change of the supply chain model into a Rig Direct, typically in this contract, it takes one or two years to work through the existing inventories until we synchronize shipments with drilling activity. So contract started, we have the new service center in Abu Dhabi in place, started at the mid of twenty twenty. This year, we're slowly during the year ramp up our shipments as still inventories come down and it's probably going to be until 2022 that we will have our full shipments in line with the level of consumption of ADNOC. So this is how typically the first two years this contract will be played out and then continuing to the following years with an increase of expected of activity of ADNOC in the midterm.

This is something that will give strength to Eastern Hemisphere. And in other areas, although they are not working on the Rig Direct, but still there is an intent of the NOCs to keep CapEx still contained. There is a cash flow concern as well in some of these countries. So delays of purchases, delays of tenders are putting some, let's say, additional lower shipment scenario in this 2021, but we foresee that to stabilize apparent demand and consumption to be more in line into 2022.

Speaker 13

All right. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Gabriel.

Speaker 1

Thank you. At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Giovanni Sardagna for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Gigi, and thank you all for joining us. Sorry for the inconvenience with part of our lines, and we hope we will do better next quarter. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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