Earnings Call: H2 2020

Mar 22, 2021

Good morning. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the WeBuild Full Year 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. Our call today is hosted by Pietro Salini, Chief Executive Officer together with Massimo Ferrari, CFO and General Manager. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Pietro Saligni. Please go ahead, sir. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our conference call dedicated to WeBuild 2020 full year results. I'm Pietro Salini, Chief Executive of the group, And I will give a few words about our performance last year before letting Massimo Ferrari go into further details on the results. Let's start with the highlights on Slide 3. We exceeded our financial targets for the year And we are on track to achieve our strategic targets for 2023. We completed the acquisition of 66% stake of Astaldi. To protect the safety of our workers, a top priority for us, we impose strict measures on our construction At the start of the COVID-nineteen pandemic and could continue, we were. Of course, performance has been affected by the COVID-nineteen. Our order backlog reached nearly EUR 42,000,000,000 That is equivalent of more than 6 years of production. Our net debt was better than target amounting to €442,000,000 We had strong growth in total equity eating €2,100,000,000 after some write downs of around €200,000,000 We were focused on cash generation. We are confirming our outlook for 2021. When it comes to sustainable development and the innovation behind it, Our numbers show how committed we are to it. Nearly 90% of our construction order backlog now comes from project dedicated to reaching sustainable development goals. We have also set targets that are tied to reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, Safety, gender diversity and innovation and management remuneration is linked on some of those targets. The graphic on slide 4 that chronicles some of the most important events of the year will give you a good idea of how much we accomplished despite the pandemic. To highlight just a few of these achievements, in January, we issued a bond. In May, we changed our name to WeBuild. Later in the summer, we took over work on the long awaited railway juncture in Genoa that will improve the connection that port has with Northern Italy and the rest of Europe. Also in Genoa, We delivered in record time the bridge to replace the Morandi bridge that collapsed 2 years earlier. We also started on the First section of the high speed rail line between Verona and Padua. There is no coincidence that all of these projects highlight our increased focused on sustainable mobility. In September, we received all the regulatory authorization related to the high speed railway between Houston and Dallas. The civil works assigned to WeBuild group related to this project are worth around $14,000,000,000 which are not included in our order backlog. Near the end of the year, we acquired 66% of our study after an over Coming number of legal and financial hurdles as part of Progetto Italia, our initiative to consolidate the construction sector immediately. As you will see on slide 5, we achieved many things during the year without neglecting the safety of our people. I cannot emphasize enough Our important safety in the workplace is for us. It is our highest priority because people are our most important asset. At the start of the pandemic, we made effort to introduce the strictest measure to enable our people to focus on the work attempt. We also provided them with extra insurance. Despite some exception, we were able to keep most of our construction sites open. On the financial side, we made sure we had sufficient cash on hand, refinanced some of our debt and imposed a cost discipline program. Needless to say, we are on a sound financial footing. Slide 3 shows the targets we have set for the year and how we surpass to them as Massimo will explain in detail later. Our construction backlog totaled €33,300,000,000 And I want to bring your attention on the fact that nearly 90% of that backlog is related to projects that help clients to reach sustainable development goals. Our revenues reached €6,400,000,000 within the range set for year. Our EBITDA margin was also within the range of 12.8%. The figures include our study for the full year. The group net debt was €442,000,000 beating the target set for the year. This achievement is also made possible by our ability to extract cash from working capital. As for the net equity, it totaled €2,100,000,000 An improvement of more than €580,000,000 from the previous year despite the total write off we decided to take on our assets in Benazueira and the impairment on equity investments related to Panama Canal. Directly and indirectly, the group employs nearly 70,000 people throughout the world, 20,000 more than 2019. Turning to slide 7, The project that we are now working on will improve the lives of 87,000,000 people, Whether it is in term of mobility, renewable energy, clean water or welfare. These projects are also expected to help About 19,000,000 tons of CO2 every year. Although we are a multinational, we like to see ourselves as being a local company wherever we are present. In fact, more than 80% of the people who work for us come from the area where the project is located and more than 90% of the resources used on our project come from local suppliers. There is also the multiplier effect. For every direct shop on a project, there are 8 more created indirectly. And for every euro of added value produced by our group, there is a boost of €3,500,000 to the gross domestic product. On the bottom of the slide, we can have a look to our positive contribution to sustainable development goals set by United Nations with the project we are currently working at. Thanks to the ongoing project, we would give the local community green energy, treated waters, as well as we are going to give approximately 7,000 additional hospital beds. Slide 8 shows us having improved last year our ESG performance in line with our robust track records. We are continuously reducing our carbon emission and our injury rate, while continuing investing in innovation and supporting gender diversity. Our work has been positively recognized also by the ESG Rating Agency. We earned an A rating from Morgan on the independence and diversity of our Board of Directors. We define an ESG plan for the period 2020, 2023 based on 3 main pillars: green, safety and inclusion and innovation. On green, we want to contribute Climate transition by further reducing our carbon footprint by 35% next year from levels registered in 2017. We also want to help clients develop sustainable projects. On safety, we want to stay a best in class performer by decreasing our injury rate by 40% next year from level registered in 2017. This will be done through programs including the adoption of digital technologies capable of alerting people on potential risks in real time. On gender inclusion, we have already achieved an important result as our most recent gender pay gap analysis conducted at the corporate level Substantial equality between women and men's salaries. Our goal is to increase the female presence at our top line. And on this, we have set a target to have at least 20% of women in the succession planning for key roles by 2023. We are finally committed to reinforcing our leadership in innovation By investing at least $30,000,000 of additional resources on high potential projects, including the digitalization of core processes, Advanced Construction Techniques, an environmental friendly pioneering solution that will boost our competitiveness in the core market. As you are likely aware, the most important milestone that we have reached under Project VIOL last year was the acquisition of about 66 percent of Astarte. Just yesterday, we announced the final approval of the agreement to take complete control of the company that is still a going concern. Through our study acquisition, we are acquiring €8,300,000,000 of project that will be executed in next years and some 20,000 direct and indirect jobs. With the Merge, we will be able to take control of the going concern business. The agreement will see us offering 203 WeBuild shares for every 1,000 Astradi shares. The exchange ratio has been determined by 4 different independent auditors based on fundamental analysis. The benefits and synergies of this final operation will be significant at the operational, financial and economic level. The management of project that involve both WeBuild and Astarte like the M4 Metro line in Milan will become integrated. There will also be a single commercial strategy. There will be an optimization of central functions And there will be centralized management for procurement, assets and working capital. At the same time, the agreement will ensure that Astaldi shareholders And access to a more liquid market for the shares as well as benefit from the growth that is expected from the integrated activities within our group. On Slide 10, you will see the performance of our project in every region of the world. And before we go into details, I would like to bring your attention to a few key figures. The first one, 36%, It is how much our top 10 projects were responsible for total revenues in 2020 compared to 47% in 2019. It's a significant decrease of risk. In the next one is 89%. It is how much Our total revenues come from projects dedicated to sustainable development. The last figure is 55%, The amount of revenues coming from low carbon projects. These figures highlight our commitment to a greener, more sustainable future. The rest of the slide shows our project incidents to low risk country continue to increase. Of course, the performance have been impacted by COVID-nineteen pandemic. In several cases, activities were halted for several weeks in order to impose new measure required by governments or local authority resulting in an overall reduction in production and margin. At the level of production, we have been able to deliver 75% of our expectation before COVID-nineteen broke out. Let me start with Italy. After work on various construction sites slowed down during the 1st 6 months, we gradually pick it up again in the second half of the year. The slowdown began in March, affecting projects like the high speed, high capacity railway between Genoa and Milano, the M4 metro line in Milan in the construction of any new headquarters in Milano. Despite difficulties with subcontractors and restriction of the mobility of workers, We began Alto not at full capacity. As for the completion of the new general bridge as mentioned earlier, we were able to do it in record time. We hope that the model that we follow to build it will be applied to other projects in Italy to help give the economy a boost after being severely hit by the pandemic. In France and Switzerland, we had to suspend work temporary on projects like the Partus Simplo in Lausanne and the 2 metro lines from the Grand Paris Express. Similar precautionary measures were taken in Middle East where production rates albeit increased compared to what was seen in the Q2 2020 continue to be impacted at the execution matches and actual permitted levels. In North America, our single biggest market by revenue, there were no significant slowdown of suspension save for few exception. As of today's date, all activities with few exceptions are ongoing in respect to local profitability safety measures, though not all of them are returning to the level of production And inefficiency registered prior to the pandemic. Slide 11 shows how substantial our backlog is at 41 point €7,000,000,000 Just for your memory, in 2019, we were talking about €36,200,000,000 It includes construction orders, but also concession and starting from 2020, operation and maintenance projects coming from Astarte. What is most important is how well diversified it is when it comes to the type of projects, their location and the lower risk profile of dislocation. Of the total €33,300,000,000 are for construction projects that is 13% more than the previous year. New acquisition totaled €10,400,000,000 when including a study portfolio of €6,400,000,000 There were no other cancellation before that because of the pandemic. With the acquisition of Astarte Itarica To make up a greater share of the total backlog of orders. In Italy, many projects that we have had in our For a number of years, we're finally unblocked and started to break ground. I will now let Narsimo, our General Manager, Corporate and Finance, Thank you for the details of our 2020 financial results. Please, Marcin. Thank you, Pietro, Good morning to everybody. Before going through the numbers, let me explain that as is customary, We are presenting adjusted figures that include effects from work under management, which are the joint ventures of our U. S. Subsidiary, Linn. The figures are also adjusted for the impact of Venezuela impairment both for the 2019 2020. Meanwhile, the 2020 figures exclude the effect on the P and L of the settlement agreement with Condote Concerning the transfer of ownership at Kochiv, the consortium that run the Milano Genova project. We can start at Slide 13. As Pietro told you, the acquisition of a controlling stake in a study was completed in November. And in accordance with IFRS accounting principles, WeBuild's consolidated figures for 2020 include those of Astaldi for the last 2 months of the year. But in order to give you proper comparative figures for the guidance we gave to the market, we include in the slide Staldi's revenues, EBITDA and EBITDA as if they were consolidated for the entire years. So let's go through the numbers. Reported revenues amounted to EUR 5,300,000,000, almost in line with those for 2019. Combined revenues totaled EUR 6,400,000,000. Both reported and combined revenues include an extraordinary gain of EUR 548,000,000, which for the sake of brevity, We will call bargain rather than badwill. This gain comes from the acquisition of Astaldi as a result of the purchase price allocation calculated with the support of leading independent advisers. Reported EBITDA was about EUR 779,000,000 combined EBITDA at EUR 821,000,000 EBIT was about EUR 563,000,000. Both EBITDA and EBIT included the bargain related to the Astaldi acquisition. Our operating results show how our business, like those of our peers, was affected By the outbreak of COVID-nineteen, as Pietro mentioned before, our business consists of Pluri Annual Contracts. Revenues from those contracts are generated based on the work that is progressively done on the project. So part of the slowdown that we experienced in the last year is expected to be absorbed already in 2021. I want to remind you That we did not have any relevant contract cancellation as a result of the pandemic last year. At the operating level, both EBITDA and EBIT margin, excluding the bargain Impact were affected by business mix, where projects with higher marginality Suffered from the production slowdown, a lower absorption of fixed cost, both at the corporate and project level. There was also an increase in cost for specific supplies to improve worker safety and health of people and reduce labor risk. Despite this contest, we retained all of our employees. There were no layoffs nor did we put anyone on paid furlough. On Slide 14, we have the P and L below the EBIT line. Let me remind you that these numbers include the consolidation of Astaldi only for the last 2 months of the year. Net financial costs were approximately EUR 119,000,000 compared to EUR 73,000,000 in 2019. Losses on investments for EUR 113,000,000 are mainly related to the impairment on the In the group, Onidos Porres Canals, our company that built the 2nd canal in Panama, After the latest decision from the one on many disputes, the group is having with the client. The related cash out of approximately EUR 92,000,000 occurred in February 2021. Adjusted net income stood at EUR 275,000,000 while As you can see in the table on Page 29, the reported net income stood at EUR 147,000,000. As you can see also on Page 11 of the press release 12, sorry. On Slide 15, you will see the positive results registered in terms of net financial position and net equity. The first half of the year was hard for most companies. By the end of June, we had a net Financial position of €1,100,000,000 In the second half of twenty twenty, We were able to bring it down to €442,000,000 thanks to our management of working capital. A boost came from payments received in project in Italy, while in the second half of For the year, we received some payments from the Middle East that had been delayed in the first half due to the pandemic as well as the drop in the price of the oil. Please remember that the balance sheet for 2019 It's not pro form a and do not include Astaldi. So the reduction in working capital not considering the contribution Of working capital from Astaldi is about EUR 670,000,000 At the end of the year, We had EUR 2,500,000,000 in cash at group level, of which EUR 1.2 €1,000,000,000 at the corporate level. Looking at the gross debt, as discussed during our conference call for the group first half results, When the COVID-nineteen pandemic erupted, we decided to temporarily draw down the whole amount of our credit lines. The move had the purpose of maintaining an adequate level of cash at the corporate level for any eventualities. We also issued a bond in December, raising EUR 550,000,000, about EUR 250,000,000 of which was used to buy back a bond expiring in June 2021. We will use the remaining cash to pay back the outstanding 2021 notes at maturity. The combined effect of these events, including the additional gross debt coming from the Stadi consolidation, increases the total amount for gross debt. But if we net this debt with the cash available At the corporate level, arriving at an outstanding amount of EUR 1,200,000,000, We would see no particular change at the gross level in comparison with 2019 figures. Net equity, meanwhile, reached EUR 2,100,000,000 thanks to the consolidation of Astaldi. This marks an improvement of more than EUR 580,000,000 compared to December 2019. Having such strong equity allowed us to improve the quality Of our assets and eliminate some risk, we wrote off our entire exposure to Venezuela To improve the quality of our asset, we've also wrote down some credits, including those related to the Condote deal mentioned before. The net debt on net equity ratio stands at 0.21 times, which is half compared to 2019 once. This is quite a good Performance for Construction Companies. I will go through Slide 16 Quickly, because it is information that is already known, we refinanced EUR 6,000,000 of debt that was coming due in 2021 and some bank debt. Our major maturity is now at in mid-twenty 22. The average cost of our debt after the Issuance of the new bond in January is about 3.5% and the duration, which was significantly Extended in 2020, thanks to the issue of bonds for EUR 1,000,000,000 is greater than for years. I will leave the floor again to Pietro for 2021 outlook and some closing remarks. Thank you, Ignacio. On Slide 18, you will see a detailed description of the strategy we are putting in place. There is a consolidation of our presence in Italy, our own market. We are quickening the pace on projects that were part of our backdrop, such as the 2nd and third functional lots of Iriqabdua. On this project, 2 construction lots were unblocked in 2020. This has resulted in new revenue streams from our domestic backlog. Another important project we have in Italy is the Milan or Genoa ISP train There is finally a full speed that generated a level of revenue similar to expectation before the pandemic. We are finally seeing a turning point for the sector in Italy. And as for our other peers, our domestic market has become a relevant part of our revenues around 22% and is expected to reach 25%, 30% of revenues in 2021. I would also like to point out that our current backlog covers already 100 percent of our 2021 targets, revenues and around 90% of combined 2021, 2023 Revenues excluding Texas. We are also using our sites to address opportunities that arise from the latest government measures to relaunch the construction sector in Italy. For instance, we have already been selected as winner or best offer for around 2,500,000,000 There is also a new line of business that we are working on to develop, its road maintenance. The ordinary and extraordinary maintenance need of the Italian road network is worth up to EUR 7,000,000,000 every year. This sector would have stabilized our cash generation. Even though it is not included in our budget for 2021, We are holding different discussion about how we can act as general contractor. By putting a number of works in big blocks, we could then produce the time by 30%. The 3rd part is to continue de risking our backlog and revenues, something we have often spoken about in the past. The group's commercial activity is focusing on markets with low risk profiles. More than 90% of this activity It's being done in markets like Italy, Europe, North America and Australia. We continue to implement our cost efficiency program, which was begun in 2020. The aim is to save about EUR 120,000,000 by 2023. As mentioned earlier, we are focusing more on Project Ahold, the principle of EEG and a reduction of CO2 emission, while at the same time maintaining a nice standard Going to Slide 19. In 2020, we kept investing in our commercial activity. This resulted in a 22% increase in tenders we submitted for projects compared to the previous year. This is notwithstanding the fact that EUR 20 €7,000,000,000 worth of tender were postponed because of the pandemic. In line with our derisking strategy, Most of our tenants are concentrated in United States, Australia, Italy and other European countries. By the end of 2023, We aim to get more than 85 percent of our revenues from countries that fit this profile. In 2020, when we expect a recovery in the construction sector, This will come from two factors: the tender that were postponed from 2020 and the investment in infrastructure that governments in many countries are planning to kick Start their respective economies. That include Europe, Australia and North America, 3 markets where the group has been present for years and is well placed to seize the opportunity that this planned investment will create. Since the beginning of 2021, we've been awarded approximately €2,500,000,000 including projects selected as best bidders. On top of these, we are awaiting the outcome of more than €9,500,000,000 worth of tenders and have nearly €10,000,000,000 worth of tender to be presented. Slide 20 shows how much of an impact Investment in infrastructure could have a new country's economy. There are already €94,000,000,000 worth of project could be unblocked And the impact they would have would be considerable. An estimated €290,000,000,000 on the gross domestic product. Of this €94,000,000,000,000 €1,000,000,000,000, 27,000,000,000 could come from so called next generation EU funds. There is one project that even though it was outside the scope of next generation UFUN could have a significant impact inside of Italy. I'm talking about the Messina Bridge, which would connect with the rest of Italy and Europe as well. Its construction would create more than 100,000 jobs. Slide 21 describes the innovative solution that we bring to our projects. They often reduce the impact that these projects have the environment. They reduce the risk for workers and they improve the way the projects are built. As illustrated on the slide, examples Include the robots that clean and monitor the structure of the new Genoa Bridge. They have the vertical riser installed in the submarine tunnel to discharge treated west The river plate near Buenos Aires. That technology is a fast in the world of engineering. There is a use of liquid nitrogen to freeze the ground under the Izarco River to facilitate the escalation of a tunnel for the Brenner Bay tunnel. And we are studying the development of a tunnel boring machine that used 20% less energy. Going to Slide 22, as we announced in November, we launched an ambitious cost saving plan for around €120,000,000 This will entail improving efficiency with the group within the group as well as capturing the synergies that are to come from the acquisition of During 2020, we were able to deliver 10% of this plan. They came from our corporate and branch Offices as well as indirect cost of our projects. In the case of our corporate and branch offices, we are putting a strict cost discipline. The smart working imposed by the lockdown helped us to learn new ways of working. We are also reorganizing staff according to the Spence and Lyer methodology. These measures are expected to read about €65,000,000 of savings by 2023, EUR 11,000,000 of which already in 2021. As for the indirect cost on our construction sites, We are standardizing processes and procedures to optimize cost. We are automating the back office with the creation of a hub to centralized services at administration, procurement, legal and human resources. This was consequently lead to rationalizing staff on the work site. This is expected to lead the savings of about €55,000,000 by 2023, with €10,000,000 of these already in 2020. Going to Slide 23, in light of the good results Reported for 2020 despite COVID-nineteen, we are confirming the target that we gave last November. At a constant Exchange rate between the euro and U. S. Dollar and assuming the COVID situation improves, we foresee a book to bill more than one Point times before 2021 2023. The new orders average in the last 7 years is around EUR 6,000,000,000 A continuous growth in terms of revenue between €6,500,000,000 7,200,000,000 in 2021. Current backlog covers already 100% on our 2021 of our planned revenues and around 90% of combined 2021, 2023 revenues excluding Texas. A stable EBITDA Margin of about 8%, thanks to efficiency streamlines and an improving net debt between €500,000,000 €300,000,000 We feel confident in saying that we are on track to deliver our 2023 targets. Allow me to take this opportunity to thank the Board of Directors. This year brings to a close a period of 9 years during which the company has changed significantly. In 2021, we acquired the company in Prejiro We have construction backlog of €12,700,000,000 was quality included progress in Venezuela, Libya, Colombia, Panama, The Messina bridge and projects in Italy that we have not financed the block like the Union State Highways. During these 9 years, We not only increased our order portfolio, but also completely reorganize it, thanks to the acquisition of new orders worth a combined total of EUR 60,000,000,000 We improved the quality of the project, diversified our geography exposure and reduced the risk profile. The result has been a reduction in our exposure to countries considered high risk from a geopolitical and economic perspective. It has also seen us expand in markets with enormous potential such as Australia and North America. We have also strengthened our position in Europe. What's more, we were able to make start projects that remain blocked for years. When you look at our performance during those 9 years, We have had more than €44,000,000,000 in revenues and accumulated EBITDA of more than €4,000,000,000 We are also strengthening our total equity with an increase of more €800,000,000 Finally, we would like to thank all our employees for these results. Thank you for your attention. I will now leave it to question and answer session. Excuse me. This is the conference operator. We will now begin the question and The first question is from Matteo Bonizoni with Kepler. Please go ahead. Good morning. I have three questions. The first one is related to Italy. If you can you have already commented that the outlook is I would like to come back on some points which you commented. So you say that there are €94,000,000,000 of projects to be unblocked, of which EUR 27,000,000,000 included in the next generation of EU fund. So my question is, what are your about the process and so how quick basically could be the award of these new €27,000,000,000 fresh money related to the Next Generation EU Fund. And can you comment a little bit more on the change of attitude, which you are seeing by the Italian government, Italian authorities. Also in Italy, I would like to know, are you seeing an implementation of the Article 207 of the relaunch decree About the increase of the advance payment from 10% to 30%. And finally, Messina Bridge, what are your Expectation on a potential resumption of this project. So you would attribute high probability or a low probability to that event. The second question is on Middle East. There has been clearly a recovery of the oil price and the financial outlook in those area is Clearly related to notably to the commodity price. So do you expect an improvement of the order intake in relation to the recovery of the oil price? And final question is on the gross debt. This €3,560,000,000 gross debt includes almost €1,200,000,000 of cash At corporate level held for precautionary purpose. Should we expect this precautionary cash to shrink in 2021 and gross debt to decline? Thanks. Yes. Thank you for your questions. You told only 3 questions, but in reality, this is almost a book. But let's say that we go through with the easier I'll start with the last one. Of course, as you have seen, we gave some targets in cash position and also in debt reduction to the end of the 2023. As for the cash available, our strategy now is to keep the cash at the corporate level in order to Make it possible to cope with the situation that was very unpredictable. Of course, during the year, if the COVID situation will stabilize and also the consequence on the market will stabilize, We will offset part of the debt with the cash available. First thing, of course, during the year, We have to use the cash that we obtained from the bond and the remaining part to be purchased at the repaid back at the end of the period, which comes in this year. So for €250,000,000 So let's say this, of course, will be done. And if possible, we will offset some debt with the cash available. This is the last question. The second issue is the market in Italy. For the marketing in Italy, of course, there is there are a lot of projects that were blocked in the past that's been released also thanks to us So this year that are starting to produce, let's say, the Verona Padua is starting this year. The Ionian 106 motorways is starting this year. There are all the cost sheet, which is Geno Milano, ISP Trend has been financed and is going now full speed. Part of this is also financed By the at the moment for what I have seen on the press, let's say, is financed through the through the PNRR, which is the next generation. Of course, the next generation will not The only thing that the nation has to do, let's say, there are few things that are foreseen into the next generation for is All the things that have to be finished by 2026, there are things that cannot be finished in 2026, But also there are things that are not under the next generation as Project, let's say, for example, all the motorways and roads are not under this facility. So we will have, I think, with Draghi and National Plan for transportation for waste, for energy, for health, Part of which will be financed by the next generation new part from PPP or project with the Private sector, part from the balance sheet, part from the other funds available From the EU that you remember that the development funds that are released every 7 years and this year We will have a new tranche of this financing, which is amounting around EUR 63,000,000,000 for the projects Into especially in the south of Italy. So let's say, I see a booming market for a number of reasons. First of all, we have To strengthen and to correct the demand of the that is missing through this recession Through the consequence of the pandemic and we have to boost the employment, of course, the easiest way to do it is to launch New project as all the Canadian economist knows and the expenditure of the state in these things is something which is mandatory not only in Italy, but everywhere. So I see a boom into the infrastructure market for the next future. Notwithstanding that, as I told, we have already in our Backlog, all the resources to cover the plan. We can expect some, let's say, some upside from this market trend, which is important. But We stick to the let's say, to the safe plan that we made that is already accomplished by The contract we already have in hand. Going to the Middle East, I don't remember the question exactly. Yes, yes. But If you if we think that it could be a restart of the Middle East, Some new opportunities. Yes, I see also in Middle East, I've been last week in Dubai visiting clients. In Saudi Arabia, we are restarting all the activities for the metro line. I see that there is, Let's say, around the world, more than in Europe, a feeling of that the pandemic is almost finished. Around the world, this sentiment is much stronger, especially in Asia and in Middle East. But now in U. S. Economy will boom and there are old signs of that this I'm very positive about the market for the future, but I want to stress that all these factors has not been Factors in into the business plan for the core activity. So it's not relying on this. And about the Messina Bridge? About the Messina Bridge, you know that this thing is very a lot of people like it, a lot of people do not. We had this contract in our portfolio when we purchased in Prejiro. They took it off from us with a law. We are ready to do it. It's the only project which is fully ready to start in the south. It is needed For the high velocity trend that goes there and stops there and restarts from the other part of the channel, so it's very, let's say, Complicated to imagine a high velocity trend that goes from Naples to Palermo that has to stop From one side of the straight and go and make the passenger cross the straight with a ship and then start from the other side. So I would say it's a nonsense. But so we are positive also on that because it's needed, but we will late orders from the government And from our clients what to do, I'm positive about that. Let me ask Matteo, if you want, we can Send you the list of the project that we included in the €94,000,000,000 that could be unblocked To you and to everyone is interested in. Okay. Thank you. The next question is from Emanuele Galazzi with Equita. Please go ahead. Yes. Good morning, everybody. Two questions from my side. The first one is, if you can just quantify or give us an idea of for the total down payment received in 2020 from Italian projects. The second one is on the equity investments. If you can just elaborate a little bit more on the impairment done in 2020 and on your expectation for 2021. And the final one is on Texas, if you can give us an update on the high speed project and its financing. Thank you. Okay. Probably, Peter I can start when Massimo is looking at the tables, I can start about the Texas projects. We received all the permits The client receives, of course, all the permits to go ahead and the license to operate the train. So now it's the contract with all the different subcontractors and contractors has been closed. So now the issue is on the financing part of it. I know that the government is working, the government I mean, the U. S. Government is working. And As you remember, Biden, it is well known for his love for the train Everybody is now willing to give to the U. S. High velocity ISP trains for connecting different cities and let's say, larger part of these cities are now connecting anyway. They are part The same city, Houston and Dallas, to say it's most single city with So even the high velocity, high speed train between the two will make it sort of metro line, High speed metal line between the 2. So it's needed. The economy needs it. We are going more And more through mega cities that needs to be connected. And I think that one place in the world in which this Trend is more quick than in other countries is U. S. So this is the solution for it. And we are ready. We just wait for the financial closure to take place to start and we look forward to do Of course, this is not in our backlog because due to the significance and weight of this single contract, it would change So we didn't give any impact on that on the core activity business plan and not of course in the So regarding the advanced payment, the markup between the 30% coming from the relaunch decree and what was already in the contract that we cashed in 2020, it's about EUR 300,000,000. So regarding losses on investments, EUR113,000,000 are mainly related to the Panama Canal latest decision from the arbitration from the arbitration process. 1 of the arbitration. 1 of the arbitration. And we wrote off EUR 165,000,000 of Venezuela Credit. So now the total exposure is 0 to the Venezuela Country and Projects. And then there are some other minor depreciation and Losses on investment, we Okay. Thank you. The next question is from Alessandro Tortora with Mediobanca. Please go ahead. Yes. Hi. Good morning to everybody. I have, Let's say, 4 questions, if I may. The first one is related to the Creto Ilhanzo in the sense That's as I remember well, last year, you mentioned that in theory, the impact of the Equatorial Could be much higher than, let's say, the delta you mentioned before between 10% 30% advances as a percentage of the project. This is the first question also linked to the second one, which is, Is there any specific expiry for the Petrobrilancho or is still, let's say, value contribution from you in terms of the collection of payment. Please, that's a question. Thanks. Now the regulatory launch for the construction company Foresees that Article 207, the possibility for contractors and contracts that are already Launch for future contract to receive an advancement of 30% in place of the 20%, which is standard. So this is what we obtained. We are obtaining, for instance, a number of contracts now from the Italian government that we obtained contracts in the past. And but the many available at the treasury level that last year for those projects were not sufficient To pay the 30%. So we expect that a large part of what is the difference will be paid during this year. And of course, we didn't factor in everything of that possibility. So We think that a substantial part could be cashed in this year. We expect some benefit from that, But we have been cautious and, let's say, prudent on the evaluation of this money For the reason that not always what is foreseen happens in reality. So Just to we obtained around this EUR 300,000,000 last year, so it's something that is true and it's real. But it takes time in Italy for everything. So we are positive, but we kept Prudent on the assumptions. Alessandro, you have to consider, for instance, that the EUR 2,500,000,000 that we Already get in terms of new orders, we'll have 30% of advanced payment. Okay. Okay. We expect to cash in 30%. Okay. Okay. The second question is on Italy. You mentioned before the focus of the company also on the maintenance project. Do you have in mind a timeline in the sense that do you believe a company could put in place This, let's say, complementary business starting for instance next year. I understood that the approach could be on a single basis or grouping projects. So just to understand what's your view in terms of timing of Disney business? We could start in 2021. We are looking also at some small company acquisition that are focused on this kind of business. And we could start in terms of contractual agreement, Both with Thanos and DASPI in 2021, if they accept and we agree a proposal. So we expect we can have some material effect starting from 2022. No figures are in this business plan. All the Adjacent Business that we are looking at, it will be included in Strategic plan that we could disclose in the first half of twenty twenty one if we are able to go on go forward on this kind of project. Okay. And on this point, Just if I may, would you be happy with a maintenance business, let's say, having the size for you of around, Let's say EUR 1,000,000,000 of sales for instance at Cusi. Sorry, can you repeat if you Yes. The question is if The company will be happy if they will be able to set up maintenance business as we see that. Okay. Also considering the acquisition that we are looking at that are really small companies, but very focused on And those efficient on this kind of business, we think we could start very, very quickly. Okay. Okay. And then the third question is, let's say, a group of 4. The first one is related to the CapEx level. You expected Tejas Yamal again now including Astaldi. The second question is on working capital on sales. Also considering what we discussed in the previous questions, the third question is on the financial charges. If You can considering also the character you mentioned before on the gross debt, which level of net financial Charges we may assume going forward. And the last is on U. S. Dollar. Clearly, the guidance is at constant effects. Can you remind us the exposure you have in terms of U. S. Dollar project denominated? Thanks. Okay. There are many questions probably Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, don't worry, don't worry. Just starting from the CapEx So that I remind. Well, we will have in 2021 quite the same amount that we had in 20 2020, around EUR 200,000,000, also including Astaldi that is very low CapEx intensive. Okay. Regarding the dollar exposure, I believe we are around Not only including Lane, but also the other currencies that are related to the dollars, We are close to 55% to 60% of our balance sheet. So you will find General losses that are not Cash. Cash EUR 44,000,000 in the balance sheet. Okay. I believe Okay, thanks. He can provide you all the details. Okay, thanks. Thank you, Alessandro. There are no more questions registered at this time. Thank you, gentlemen and ladies. Thank you for your attention. Thank you to all of you. Thank you everybody. Bye bye.