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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

May 4, 2022

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Manuel Manrique, Chairman and CEO of Sacyr. I am accompanied here for this presentation, as usual, by Carlos Mijangos, the CFO of the company. Thank you very much to all of you analysts, media, investors for attending this presentation of economic results of Sacyr which correspond to the first quarter of 2022. As we have said in recent presentations, the results of Sacyr continue to show very positive growth rates and profitability. I shall not insist upon talking about the consecutive quarters during which we have had constant improvement, but I think you all know about the excellent result of the strategic focus of our business plan, and it's no longer something new. Although for us, it continues to be very relevant and important, the fact that we have recurrent profitable growth.

All the more so in a situation of geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainty, such as the one that currently exists. The results for the first quarter of this year continue to show the robustness of our business model. We have grown by 13% in our revenue, 25% in EBITDA. EBITDA margin has grown and stands at 20.3%, and cash flow has increased by 28% with the awarding of concessional projects with mitigated demand risk and which are focused in strategic countries. These wonderful results for 2022 mean that we will be able to maintain and even improve our shareholder remuneration policy. The annual general meeting, which was held last week, approved two new dividends that will be given in the form of scrip dividends over the next 12 months.

In last February, we already paid EUR 0.049 per share or one new share for every 45 existing ones. In 2022, we continue to progress in the completion of the construction and the commissioning of some concession assets which are very important for Sacyr, as we had the opportunity to explain to you at the Investor Day in October 2021. In addition to the four greenfield projects in Italy, Colombia and Chile, which are progressing and are at the point of being completed during this year, we have added yellowfield projects for the A3 highway between Naples and Salerno in Italy on th 1st of April, and Ruta 78 highway between Santiago and San Antonio in Chile at the end of March.

All of these new assets, which are currently operating, and the existing ones in our portfolio take the dividend received by concessions to EUR 180 million, in line with what we said at the Investor Day. I would also like to highlight the success in the financing of the A3, as well as the Rumichaca-Pasto in Colombia, which includes the social bond for EUR 262 million, showing our support and our commitment to more sustainable financing. This commitment to sustainability can also be seen in the high scores that we have received and which position us among the leaders in the sector for the main indexes and ratings, acknowledging the responsible behavior of all of the people that work in Sacyr. By way of a summary of the main figures, we can see that revenue represents 30.

Well, it has gone up by 13% compared to 2021 during the first quarter. We're always comparing first quarter. EBITDA 243, 25% up on last year. Our participation as stake at EBITDA of the concession assets, 83% compared to 81% in the first quarter. The net profit for business is 40 compared to 26 last year. This is an increase of 57%. Profit after tax could have had a growth of 21%, but in 2021, we had EUR 11 million due to our stake in Repsol, which is zero this year because it's all through equity. We have an increase of 28% in operating cash flow up to 150.

The backlog as of the end of the year has grown by 5%, reaching the figure of 48,343. Following this, Carlos Mijangos will give you further details about the results of the group and for each of the divisions and the holding.

Carlos Mijangos
CFO, Sacyr

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. If we look at each of the divisions, we can see that in concessions we have had EBITDA of EUR 131 million and EBIT of EUR 113 million. This means that the margin, the EBITDA margin, has gone from 54.8% to 56.5%. If we look at engineering and infrastructure, we have EBITDA of EUR 88 million, EBIT of EUR 69 million. This is an increase in the margin. It's gone from 12% to 12.7%.

Lastly, services have obtained EBITDA EUR 23 million, EBIT EUR 10 million, and EBITDA margin has gone up from 8.5% to 9.4%. If we look at the contribution of each activity in the group, if we look at the revenues, engineering and infrastructure, this is the one that contributes the most, and then concessions with 28%, and thirdly, services with 19%. Looking at EBITDA of EUR 243 million, 54% concessions, 36% engineering, and 10% services. If we bring all of the assets, the concession assets that we have together in the three, then they total EUR 200 million EBITDA, which represents 83% of the total figure for the Sacyr Group. If we look at the backlog, 48.343 billion, 81% in concessions, 13% in engineering, and 6% in services.

If we look at the latest concessions awarded during the quarter, if we start with North America and Canada, we have been given the Grandview Children's Treatment Centre in Ontario and a road in Texas, a highway in Texas, a U.S. 62. In Latin America, we have had the Santiago-San Antonio highway concession. In Europe, we have a transport hub in the United Kingdom, in Belfast, in Northern Ireland, a commercial and recreational port in the Azores Islands, the enlargement of a road in Sweden. We have two road projects. We have a road conditioning in the Canary Islands and other also cleaning contracts in Mairena del Aljarafe and in Barcelona, and we have metro contracts in Madrid.

If we look at the net debt of the group, we can see that it's gone up from EUR 6 billion to EUR 6.964 billion, which represents an increase of EUR 900 million. The most important thing is the progress of the debt, the recourse debt. We can see with the operational flow, 150 has been generated. We have the EBITDA, the working capital, and this is then has other adjustments. Financial result, 127, and 721 in investment. We could say that 500 is for the A3, which was paid in March, and therefore the levy paid by the administration and the previous concession, almost 500, is already on the balance sheet, and it starts or started functioning on the fifth of April.

There's a one-off effect, which is that the appreciation of the currency in Latin America has led to an increase in debt of over EUR 230 million. If we look at recourse net debt, we can see that the funds from operations, where we have EUR 23 million from the EBITDA plus working capital, we have to break this down. Twenty seven is EBITDA for non-recourse debt, and they have a seasonal impact of EUR 15 million, and we will recover this over the year, as we usually do. If we look at the concessions distribution, there are very few to EUR 6 million, and the distributions are mainly in the second half of the year. The financial expense, EUR 14 million, and this quarter, there's been investment in concession assets of over EUR 55 million. In Colombia, we have contracts, and the impact is EUR 55 million.

The latest scrip dividend payment in February and debt variation due to financing flow. With this, we talk about the EUR 798 million. I would like to highlight that there are three concepts here that are specific compared to other quarters. One is the impairment of the working capital. We have increase in equities. The third one, the progress of the recourse debt part. If we look at concessions, the revenue, the operating revenue reaches EUR 232 million, so this is 23% increase, considerable increase in infrastructure and concessions, 24%, and 20% for water. Construction income goes up by 39%, and this construction income is adjusted in the consolidated because it is reflected in that section.

EBITDA has gone up by 27% to EUR 131 due to the traffic behavior in Spain and the opening up of different sections of highways in the different contracts that we are bringing into service. For water, this is contributing in Chile and also for the assets at the end of the year in Algeria and Australia. All of this comes together, and it means we have investment of EUR 1.4 billion in our projects. For milestones, as we mentioned, we have that financing of the highway which started operation on April 1st in Italy. We have the financing of the Rumichaca-Pasto project.

We have a multi-branch bank loan of EUR 278 million and another in Colombian pesos equivalent to $260 million with local bank funding. The last one, we have the commissioning of the Santiago-San Antonio highway, 132.8 kilometers, which will benefit a population of approximately 1.7 million people. If we look at the main projects which are being executed from west to east, we can see that in Colombia, the Vespucio Puerta del Hierro, that was begun last year. In the center of the country or towards the north, towards Barranquilla, we have Rumichaca-Pasto, which we have opened 57 kilometers and another 11 kilometer this quarter, and this will be completed this year. We're standing at a figure of 98%. We have Mar 1, 98% as well.

We've opened up 19 km between the Túnel de Occidente going towards Santa Fe, and with this we have 85 km open. In Pamplona-Cúcuta, we have completed the tunnels, the most complicated part, and we have 62 km functioning. We have a very short urban complex section with technical solutions in engineering terms, which have been quite brilliant, to be honest. They're just finishing. We expect it to open in a few weeks. We have Ferrocarril Central. That was for the AVO. We have Ferrocarril Central in Uruguay. We have Rutas del Este in Paraguay from east to west with 76%, 96 km already open. Lastly, Pedemontana, we are seeing the completion of sections, and in a few weeks it will begin to operate. It's 14 km up to the Spresiano junction.

We have the A3, which we said was opened on the 1st of April as well. If we talk about the contribution of each of the countries to the EBITDA and revenue, we can see. Well, Italy is not reflected. That's in construction, as we mentioned. EUR 127 million and EUR 67 of EBITDA. Other countries would be Colombia with EUR 82 and EUR 40, respectively, with four assets. Chile with EUR 68 and EUR 31 to 18 assets. Spain with EUR 66 and EUR 26 and 22 assets. The other countries, as we can see. If we analyze the engineering infrastructure, we can see, we have revenue has gone up by 10%.

We have the current execution of projects in the United States, Italy, Chile, Colombia, and this covers the concession contribution of Pedemontana, as we have always said, because of the specificities of that Italian project. It has increased EBITDA by 16%, and the margin goes from 12% to 12.7%, and it stands at EUR 6 billion, this portfolio. Sorry, this backlog. We can see for Pedemontana, we have a revenue figure of EUR 562, EBITDA of EUR 21 with a margin of 3.7%. This margin is affected slightly by the situation in the sector due to the increase in raw material prices. It's important to highlight that almost 50% of the backlog is for concessions, and this represents 26 months of activity.

As milestones, we have our entry into Sweden, a 17-kilometer road, and the design and measurement risk and geological risk corresponds to the client, therefore, it's mitigated. We have also Canada, the awarding of the Grandview Children's Treatment Centre in Ontario. If we talk about the main awards for this quarter, we have the Belfast Transport Hub, EUR 191 million. The section of U.S. 62, EUR 23 million. The repair of the Port of Vila do Porto in the Azores Islands, EUR 21 million. Percent growth in revenue, EUR 250 million is the figure we have for this. EBITDA has grown by 13%, going from EUR 21 million to EUR 23 million. Environment has gone slightly down in terms of revenue.

If we look at EBITDA, we have to compare it with the extraordinary, the one-offs last year because of Storm Filomena. Therefore, the level is maintained at a significant level with new contracts. We start with Reus, Ciudad de Reus, and also the green areas in Madrid. In multi-services, we have good growth due to the award and the return of activities for many buildings. For facilities, they are carrying out their activity, such as metros, airports, public transport, and office buildings, as well as the recovery for Cafestore. We have 9.4% EBITDA margin and a backlog of over EUR 3 billion. The main awards, we have the street cleaning contract for Mairena del Aljarafe, contract for cleaning of depots, garages, and stations of Metro de Madrid.

The cleaning, pest control for Correos, the post office buildings, and also office cleaning services for Repsol, and street cleaning and maintenance of parks and gardens in Arroyo de la Encomienda in Valladolid. Now I give the floor back to the chair.

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

We put ourselves at your disposal for the questions that the analysts may have.

Operator

If you would like to ask a question, please press the star followed by one in your phone. If you wish to withdraw it, or if your question has already been answered, please press star followed by two. When you are ready to ask the question, please make sure that your phone is not locally muted. The first question comes from Luis Prieto. Luis, you have the floor. Your line is open.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, good afternoon. Thank you. I have two questions, if you allow me. The first one is if you could shed some more light about impairment that we saw related to Pedemontana. If you could tell us what is happening, what's going on, what has led to this development, those results. Secondly, in the AGM, the chair said it was the time to be more ambitious in terms of objectives, and I would like to know the levers that behind this. I would like to know a little bit more and understand that a bit better, and if you're not concerned about the uncertainty, if it will lead to further increases in costs, and if we could see a more dramatic situation, perhaps.

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Well, I understand that the first question refers to the increase in raw materials. It's true that there is an increase in raw material prices, and there is scarcity of some of them, as we already said, in wood, copper, cement. It's necessary in the AGM, and I say it again, that the government should take more dynamic, more energetic steps and measures to compensate this variable. Some have already done this in Spain in 2021, 2022. They are covered for the compensation or offsetting in price reviews. It's important to continue in order to have activity and to create employment. In conversations with the administration in almost all countries, we're talking about this in order to limit this impact. It's true that it has an impact on activity profitability, with exception of Pedemontana. We're talking about 0.1% down to 3.8%. Well, from 3.8% to 3.7%.

I would like to just say something in order to understand the significance within the group. Our group, we're talking about EUR 1 billion in EBITDA, approximately. Understanding that construction and, well, we're talking about EUR 80 or 100 million. That's the size. So the effect of EUR 20-30 million, well, that would have an impact of 2%-3% for the group. This is an impact, of course, but I mean, we have an impact, but it's not significant. With regards the review of the strategic plan, which is I have understood to be your concern, what we discussed in the AGM, what we said. Well, what we've seen is that in one year, we had a strategic program for five years, and during the first year, because of the data that we have, this is significant.

There's been a significant increase, significant progress. We're not going to just relax. With what we said, we're going to be more ambitious, and I could give you some examples. Back then, we said that the plan would have EBITDA of EUR 1.2 billion in 2025, and we've had, at the end of this year, EUR 993 million already at the end of the last year. What's more, if we think of the last 12 months, March to March, we have EUR 972 million. I think that we are obliged as a company to be more ambitious, and we're going to be more ambitious. The cash flow, well, the same thing. We said we were going to have EUR 1 billion for 2025, and we're already talking about EUR 762 million for the last 12 months.

We're going to be more ambitious. We're going to make bigger commitments.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question comes from João Safara from Santander Bank. João, you have the floor.

João Safara
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Santander Bank

Good morning. Good afternoon, and thank you for allowing these questions. I have two. First of all, I would like you to remind us about the targets regarding debt, the recourse debt. As far as I remember from the documents, you were talking about EUR 200 million reduction, and I think a part of this would be the sale of assets. The idea I had, at least, was that we would see something during the first half of the year. I'd like to know if I'm right in this understanding, or if you could explain a little bit more about this target.

The second question is to try to understand the progress of the different projects that finish this year. If you could perhaps talk about dates when you're expecting this. As Carlos mentioned, I understood that you have some coming to a close or being completed in a few weeks' time. I'd like to understand the development or the progression, which is slow, perhaps. From our point of view, perhaps a little bit ignorant, but when we talk about Rumichaca, it should have finished in 2021, but it's still in a similar position to as it was at the end of 2021. I'd like to know about the progress of Pedemontana. If you could give more information about those, about the progress of those highways.

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Yes. First of all, with regards the reduction of debt, we would ratify what we said on the Investor Day. We said that at the end of the year 2022, the figure for net debt, net recourse debt would start with four. We said we made a commitment that it would start with six, and then we reached the conclusion that we could be talking about EUR 200 million reduction. We still say that it's going to start with four by the end of the year. If we talk about the progress in the first quarter, it's quite logical. It's seasonal, it's systematic. Every month in this sector, this happens. Well, if you remember last year, it was around EUR 1 billion, and I said, we're going to make a commitment to reduce it by EUR 300 million. It's going to be less than EUR 700 million.

We reached that. Now that we're talking about 800 and something, we are committed to get it down to a number that starts with four. It's going to be less than 600. We're going to do this over the year. The dividends, for example, for concessions tend to come at the end of the year, at the end of the quarter. The distribution is different in the different quarters. I would repeat that it will begin with four. It will be less than EUR 500 million at the end of 2022. The other question was about the dates, and I think we've beaten records in all of the countries where we are present. As a company, we have a joint venture with another Spanish company in AVO, in Chile.

I don't think we can recall any activities. All of the ministers and the directors there have said it, and I say it, this is such an important job. Project. It's so important. It's been done so well with engineering, which is such a level that I think we're going to finish it ahead of time in a few weeks' time. It's been an absolute and total success. If we talk about the concessions in Colombia that you referred to, I think that we are the company that or one of the best, let's say, one of the best companies in fulfilling the 4G program, sorry, the 4G program for concessions in Colombia. The geotechnics in Colombia are very complicated. It goes beyond that even. The unexpected events and the landslides and the expropriation, and sometimes this takes.

Well, we had an indigenous village. The problems with that haven't been resolved. Often these issues are completely outside of our company, beyond our control. I would invite you to talk to any authority in this sector in Colombia, and they will say, they will tell you that we have set very high standards when it comes to quality and execution times for all of the contracts.

Operator

Thank you very much. By way of a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star followed by number one on the keypad of your phone. The next question comes from Luis Prieto. Luis, go ahead. You have the floor.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, thank you for answering another question from me. I have a question related to cost inflation. What should we think about the impact on inflation on pending projects and concessions in the future? Because we could be looking at an increase in the necessary investment. I'd like to know for things that are alive and are still pending investment, things we have in the pipeline, how do you see this?

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Well, let's see, Luis. The projects that we have awarded, inflation is in our favor, as we've repeated. Normally, they are updated in line with the consumer price index, and the cost is 20% to 30% the increase. So that's always beneficial. The new ones, well, we will study them to try to get the most appropriate provisions. But the ones that are pending, which are pending construction, well, I've already answered with regards to them. Construction, for us, we always try to talk to the administration and through the concessionaire when the constructions. We are seeing a reasonable response.

Nonetheless, I've said this, but nonetheless, we're talking about an impact of EUR 20 to EUR 30 million per year, which is 2% to 3% of the EBITDA of the group. I don't know whether I'm answering or not. If not, perhaps you might want to clarify your question. I mean, that's what I've understood.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Yes. We can hear you, yes.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Can you hear me now?

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Yes, we can hear you, Luis.

Luis Prieto
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Sorry. My question was, well, for example, thinking about when I make an offer and I have a price, for a concession project, I'm referring to if the materials go up by 25% or something like that, 10% to 15%, or depending on different factors. I'm talking about the initial investment, whether this could affect how we bid for future projects. It's not critical, it's just to see how you are seeing this or viewing this.

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

I've answered that very question. What you just asked is what I've just said. We are having conversations with all administrative bodies, sometimes through the concessionaire, when that's the case. Other times it's direct. We are obtaining reasonable answers. It's not unanimous, but it's reasonable. For example, in Spain, they have increased in 2021. They've used a formula which has been used also for 2022. This is a reasonable solution. Does it absorb the entirety? No. There's always a little bit that the company has to absorb, but it's something that we can withstand. We've already assigned a value to this, EUR 20 million to EUR 30 million per year, which is 2% to 3%.

When prices increase, what we do there, we talk to the client and we say, "This is extraordinary." In general, in Italy, that's been resolved. In France, it's been resolved, and in Spain also. In many countries, it's been solved quite well. Around the world, in general terms, well, I've already mentioned what we see the impact as being.

Operator

Thank you very much. We have no further questions via the phone. I shall give the floor to the team to answer questions from the webcast. Good afternoon. The first one is from Daniel Gandoy, JB Capital, and it's to. Could you update information about the situation for sales of assets? If you could give us some clues about the timing. Secondly, given the evolution of the Repsol price, would it be reasonable to carry out advanced monetization or a partial one for these derivatives?

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Well, the sale of assets, well, we can't talk about the timescales or the calendar because this follows a process when there are sales. You have to ask whether there are sales or not. If it's true, well, in AGM, we said that. In other words, last week, we said that we are always willing to strengthen our balance sheet with new assets. I imagine you're referring to that, to have a greater financial robustness. We would do this in the most appropriate way at any given time. I didn't talk about any sales, as far as I know. I don't know anybody else has talked about that to JB. I would like to give an example.

Last year, we had two acquisitions, the integrated water cycle, and well, we financed this without recourse. When we acquired 50% of the desalination plant in Australia. I think these are clear examples of how we are strengthening our balance sheet. With regards to the other one, Repsol, the cost is very important, and we're not going to do that today.

Operator

Next question, I think it's already been answered by the chair about the acquisition of new concessions. We'll now go to a question from João on the phone. Yes, the next question comes from João Safara from Santander Bank. You have the floor, João.

João Safara
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Santander Bank

Hello. Yes. This is one last question to take this opportunity. If we think about the pipeline a year ago, bearing in mind that the concessions, well, they take some time, have there been any changes in terms of the pipeline? I mean, this question is related to the increase in the cost of projects. If this has meant that some projects were eliminated from the pipeline, or have there been any changes in the opportunities that you saw a year ago compared to now?

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

Yes, João, I'll answer. We always have different projects monetized, and we monitor them, and we begin to study them. Those projects, in some cases, we have seen that they weren't coming in, and so we didn't bid. For that reason, we have an investment committee which analyzes projects, and if they don't meet the metrics, then we don't go for them.

Also, there have been projects with prices from two years ago. They weren't included. We talked with the administration, and they modified the conditions. It's always the same thing, really. We offer projects which meet the internal requirements according to the type and the country. Right now, we are involved in many processes. We had two in Colombia just over the last 10 days, in fact.

João Safara
Senior Equity Research Analyst, Santander Bank

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. There are no further questions on the phone. I give the floor to the chair for any final comments.

Manuel Manrique
Chairman and CEO, Sacyr

If there are no more questions, I would repeat my wish that everyone has good health now at the end of this time in the pandemic. I would like to thank you for your presence and interest. We say goodbye until the next event during which we will present our results for the first half of 2022. Thank you very much, and have a very good day.

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