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Earnings Call: Q1 2013

May 8, 2013

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Telefónica's January-March 2013 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press 01 on your telephone keypad. If you should require any assistance during this call, please press star-zero. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Pablo Eguirón, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Telefónica's conference call to discuss January-March 2013 results. I'm Pablo Eguirón, Head of Investor Relations. Before proceeding, let me mention that this document contains financial information that has been prepared under International Financial Reporting Standards. This financial information is unaudited. This presentation may contain announcements that constitute forward-looking statements, which are not warranties of future performance and involve risk and uncertainties. Certain results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statement as a result of various factors. We invite you to read the complete disclaimer included in the first page of the presentation, which you will find in our website. We encourage you to review our publicly available disclosure documents filled with the relevant securities market regulators.

If you don't have a copy of the relevant press release and the slides, please contact Telefónica Investor Relations Team in Madrid by dialing the following telephone number, 34914828700. Let me turn the call to our Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Mr. Ángel Vilá, who will be leading this call.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

Thank you, Pablo. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Telefónica's first quarter 2013 conference call. Today with me are the members of the executive committee. During the Q&A session, you will have the opportunity to address to them any questions you may have. Let me start with the highlights of the first quarter of the year. It has been a quarter of delivering on our transformation strategy towards sustainable growth. First, results up to March reflected business stabilization, with similar organic OIBDA figures year-on-year for the second consecutive quarter, thanks to margin progression. Operating cash flow maintaining the organic growth trend initiated last quarter. Second, we continue progressing in our transformation, which is already delivering tangible results. As an example, profitability in Spain stood at 47%. Movistar Fusión continues having strong traction in the market.

Third, we keep on diversifying the business, increasing the exposure to Latin America, which accounts for over 51% of total revenues, while Brazil has already become the main market by revenues. Fourth, we continue taking decisive actions to reduce debt, offsetting non-recurrent factors and seasonality, which impacted our net debt as of March. Finally, we are posting strong earnings per share growth of 22.2%. Please turn now to slide number four for a quick review of our financial performance. Reported year-on-year growth rates are impacted by negative Forex effect, mainly due to Venezuelan devaluation, by changes in the consolidation perimeter, and by the reduction in the value of Telco investment that we booked in the first quarter of 2012. Revenues reached over EUR 14.1 billion in the first quarter, down 1.6% in organic terms, while OIBDA was close to EUR 4.6 billion, almost flat organically year-on-year.

Operating cash flow exceeded EUR 3.3 billion, growing 9.6% organically. In summary, let me highlight that the Q1 results are fully aligned with our internal expectations, and therefore, we reiterate our full year guidance. In slide number five, I would like to highlight the outstanding results of our focus on high-quality customer base. Smartphone penetration has increased by 6 percentage points year-on-year to 20%, driving contract-based growth after adding more than 1.4 million customers in the first quarter. As such, contract mix further improved by 2 percentage points year-on-year to reach 33%. In the fixed business, ultra-broadband penetration has expanded to 27% of fixed accesses, with connection rate increasing to 10%. There is demand for higher speeds, and we are progressively adapting our networks to capture it.

In Europe, we are launching innovative and simple propositions, offering the best value for money, and with the progressive elimination of subsidies as a common denominator. This will allow us to capture the data opportunity with a sustainable model. In Latin America, we are clear market leaders in the high-value segments, and we are in the best position to capture the data opportunity that lies ahead of us. Stabilization, excluding calendar effects, was driven by two main levers, Latin America and mobile data, as shown in slide six. I want to remark that Latin America continues its progression as the key engine to revenue growth and almost offsetting lower sales from our European businesses. We continue to evolve our revenue mix, increasing our exposure to the fastest growth businesses, as shown by the increasing weight of data revenues over mobile service revenues to 37% compared to 34% one year ago.

Non-SMS revenues are the main growth driver and already represent 62% of data revenues, seven percentage points ahead of last year. Please turn to slide seven to review our achievements with regards to profitability. This is the third consecutive quarter of lower costs. The successful delivery of cost control initiatives, leverage on scale and simplification are the main levers of this performance. Sound costs control more than offset revenue pressure and drive OIBDA margin improvement of 50 basis points to 32.3%. Commercial cost efficiencies delivered by our new commercial model and further efficiencies achieved due to simplification and resources optimization led this performance. This is especially remarkable in a context of increasing smartphone penetration and growing network costs related to the data-centric businesses. Lastly, as I will explain in the next slide, I would like to stress our initiatives to capture the value of our scale.

Global Resources is further optimizing scale benefits, delivering savings, and helping to maximize business profitability. As such, in Q1, the unit has been focused in certain priority projects to consistently progress in transformation, aiming to improve global operating and commercial processes. To give some examples. In networks and operations, a step forward in supporting operations has been achieved, and we will ensure smooth implementation of network sharing agreements in Europe and extend them to LATAM. A good example of this is the MoU with América Móvil in Brazil. IT was key in the recent successful tariffs refreshment in U.K. and Czech Republic. We have also launched a new model for application maintenance in LATAM, and we have further advanced in executing infrastructure consolidation. In devices, we have simplified our catalog, reducing references by 25% versus 2012, concentrating 80% of value in 30 references.

Moving to slide number nine, let me highlight the progress made by Telefónica Digital to continue transforming Telefónica into a digital telco. Firstly, strong momentum continues around Firefox OS with enlarged industry support. The first handsets will be on sale in Spain, Colombia, and Venezuela in the coming months. Meanwhile, compelling content partnerships are already in place. Secondly, M2M capabilities were bolstered with introduction of a new platform for managing M2M communications, where new innovative services were launched, and new partnerships strengthened our position. Telefónica Digital is also driving innovation in over-the-top communications with TU Go, a service that will change the way people use their phone by allowing them to use a single mobile number across any of internet-connected devices seamlessly.

On top of that, Telefónica joined Sprint to create one of the largest mobile advertising alliances in the world and will become the first telco in Latin America to deliver end-to-end services in the e-health market. Please turn now to slide number 10 to review our operations in Latin America. In this quarter, commercial activity remained strong in the most valuable segments. The profile of our superior customer base places us in an unparalleled position to capture the mobile data opportunity in the region. This is reflected in the strong growth of contract accesses with accelerated smartphone adoption. As a result, revenues grew strongly by almost 7% year on year in organic terms, doubling accesses growth. Data services uptake progressively increases its contribution to total revenues. This reflects the quality and sustainability of our growth model.

Let me also remark that despite the higher commercial activity in high-value clients and the accelerated smartphone adoption, OIBDA growth continued to outpace revenue growth, resulting in a slight margin expansion as our efficiency efforts are delivering tangible results. The next slide gives our view on the Brazilian business. We continued widening our mobile leadership in the first quarter. We base our market strength on the competitive advantage provided by our differential 3G infrastructure and our superior service quality. As a result, we captured 42% of market net adds in the contract segment in the first quarter, with smartphones growing strongly. Our contract customer base grew by 17% year-on-year, with smartphones rocketing by 88%. Meanwhile, we kept strengthening our position with new innovative multi-device data plans launched in April.

In the fixed business, we remain committed to our action plan aimed to improve fixed quality, mainly enhancing the mix of broadband speeds while increasing the uptake of Vivo Fibra. Positive commercial results translated into financial metrics, as shown in slide 12. Revenues accelerated this quarter on the back of the outstanding performance in mobile revenues, growing by double-digit year-on-year and bolstering top line growth as they account for two-thirds of total revenues in Brazil. Let me also highlight that we keep leading mobile service revenue market year-on-year growth owing to our strategy based on sustainable growth model centered on quality. Similarly, profitability continued to improve year-on-year, mainly driven by synergies derived from our businesses integration, along with ongoing efficiency efforts to bring further margin sustainability. Let me also highlight that once again, in this quarter, we led OIBDA market share, and we keep widening that leadership.

Now, please turn to slide 13 to review the results of other businesses in LATAM. In Peru, very strong commercial momentum remained, flowing into top line acceleration while maintaining stable OIBDA margin year-on-year. In Argentina, revenue growth surpassed the 20% mark year-on-year, while historical record in net adds for a first quarter affected profitability but secured future growth. Meanwhile, Chile remains as one of the most competitive markets in the region, with revenues impacted by market dynamics and pricing pressure. We reshaped our commercial offer mainly to take advantage of a low penetrated mobile data market. In the meantime, we continue to work on the cost side, gaining efficiency to offset revenue decline. Turning to our Colombian business in slide 14.

Despite a tough competitive environment, we continue to post healthy growth in contract customers while enhancing our position in the fixed business, with the highest net additions in the last four years in both fixed traditional and fixed broadband accesses. On top of that, benefits stemming from the integration of our fixed and mobile businesses continued to flow to the bottom line. In Mexico, the new regulatory framework should improve the competitive landscape, creating the conditions to exploit all the market growth potential. In the meantime, Q1 results consolidated the positive commercial traction, with accesses growing after four quarters declining. To end with our LATAM assets in Venezuela, once again, this quarter, operational performance remained impressive across the board. Let me now review our operations in Europe. Telefónica Europe continued executing its strategy to focus on quality and increase business efficiency amid intensified competition and economic headwinds.

We have been revisiting our commercial approach to reinforce our competitive position, launching an empowered portfolio tailored to local market conditions, but sharing a common philosophy of simplicity, transparency, data centricity, and moving away from subsidies. Incremental savings derived from transformation initiatives led for a second consecutive quarter to an OIBDA margin improvement year-on-year of 210 basis points, despite ongoing revenue pressure. Moving to Spain on page 16, I would like to highlight that our convergent offer, Movistar Fusión, continued to be the key lever behind the company's commercial activity in the quarter, sustaining strong market momentum. Movistar Fusión surpassed 1.7 million customers as of March. It is especially remarkable that 47% of gross adds were from new customers, either new fixed or new mobile services, 17 percentage points more than in Q4.

New revenues from these customers, along with upselling and increased additional mobile lines, allowed Movistar Fusión to reach revenue breakeven from January. Movistar Fusión is consolidating solid fixed broadband and fiber net adds, as well as reducing fixed telephony losses, and on top of that, improving customer satisfaction and churn. Convergent offers in the market and market shrinkage affected mobile quarterly net adds. In particular, MVNO's integrated offers resulted in higher contract portability losses. During April, we introduced new commercial propositions to better compete in the marketplace, completing our convergent portfolio in the entry level with Movistar Fusión Cero and addressing different consumption levels for mobile-only customers with Movistar Cero and Movistar Total. Turning to slide number 17, we review Telefónica España financials. Total revenues stabilized their year-on-year decline on a sequential basis, ex handset sales, which were affected by the new commercial strategy against a difficult macroeconomic backdrop.

Regarding profitability, I would like to stress once again the healthy OIBDA margin of 47% delivered by Telefónica España, improving 5.1 percentage points in organic terms year-on-year. This reflects the ongoing savings on multiple initiatives of cost-cutting across the board, like a rational approach to subsidies, redundancy program, simplification, lower churn, and lower customer care costs. In the coming quarters, results will reflect the benefits of the new social agreement, the outsourcing of activities in different areas, and deeper transformation and simplification, which should lead to additional cost savings. On top of that, and despite increased coverage of fiber up to 2.3 million households as of March, CapEx showed a 30% year-on-year reduction, flowing directly to operating cash flow generation, which remains stable year-on-year in organic terms. Turning to slide 18, in U.K., we have maintained commercial momentum in a highly competitive market.

Contract mobile net adds remained solid as the company continued capturing share of smartphones and the efforts on retention led to a record low contract churn. As such, we have improved our customer mix, with the contract segment representing already 53% of the mobile base, up three percentage points year-on-year. I would like to mention the recent launch of an innovative, simple, and transparent proposition, O2 Refresh. This tariff scheme offers the best value for money proposition and continues to be data-centric while generating commercial efficiencies as it eliminates handset subsidies. Mobile service revenue year-on-year trend excluding regulation improved for the second consecutive quarter, reflecting the better trading in 2012. With regards to revenues, I would also like to highlight the RPI price increase and the disposal of our fixed business that will start impacting from the second quarter.

Topline performance and further efficiencies around network sharing, focus on online customer care, and the benefits of scale led to a margin expansion of 1.6 percentage points, leading to OIBDA year-on-year growth for the first time since the third quarter of 2011. In Germany, on slide 19, the first quarter has been impacted by tactical competitive moves on retention. This commercial environment led to lower trading volumes with strong focus on the existing customer base and upselling activities. Contract churn improved by 0.2 percentage points, leading to a contract mix of 53%. To further monetize the data opportunity, the company has launched a new O2 Blue portfolio and is seeing encouraging adoption trends. I would also like to highlight the ongoing expansion of the LTE network with the high-speed metropolitan areas of Munich and Berlin already operational since the end of March.

Regarding the MOU signed with Deutsche Telekom, we see the fixed business as key lever to develop our conversion strategy, and this will allow more attractive high-speed bundle offers. In terms of financials, focus on smartphones led to strong non-SMS revenue growth. Mobile service revenues excluding MTR grew 0.5%, accelerating their growth trend sequentially due to ARPU pressure as we continue our process of renewing the contracts of our customer base and as we have been impacted by lower SMS volumes. Lastly, OIBDA margin increased 0.5 percentage points to 23.9%, allowing OIBDA to remain stable year-on-year. Let me now move to the financial side on slide 20. Telefónica remains on track on its deleveraging process. Net debt, including post-closing events, decreases by EUR 1 billion compared to December 2012 net debt adjusted by the devaluation in Venezuela.

Positive free cash flow pre-spectrum has contributed with EUR 238 million, nearly threefold the Q1 2012 figure. This has been complemented with several measures, such as the sale of assets and stakes for EUR 1.2 billion, including the recently announced sale of a 40% stake in Central America, the divestment of U.K. retail fixed business and Hispasat, and the placement of treasury shares. In the opposite direction, we have suffered exceptional items, such as the Venezuelan devaluation, the spectrum acquired in the U.K., and seasonal ones, like the traditional seasonality of working capital in the first quarter, which should reverse in the coming quarters. We reiterate our target to reduce our net debt below EUR 47 billion in 2013. On slide 21, I would like to highlight again that financing conditions are normalized for us.

Several long-term financing operations have allowed us to raise EUR 7 billion year to date, and to increase our average debt life to 6.75 years. This successful financing has contributed to an additional improvement in our liquidity position, reaching EUR 21.4 billion as of March, EUR 0.4 billion above the level of December 2012. We have further strengthened our liquidity position by repurchasing and exchanging short-dated bonds by an amount of EUR 0.8 billion. We remain comfortably ahead of our target of 24 months of covered maturities. It is also worth mentioning the decreasing effective interest cost during the last six months, almost by nearly 30 basis points to 5.22%, close to the bottom of the range of our guidance and despite the strong liquidity position. To conclude, let me highlight that in the first quarter, we continued transforming our model.

We continued keeping strong commercial push, focusing on quality and innovation and avoiding subsidies, which will result in a sustainable growth model. We continued stabilizing the business as reflected in the stable OIBDA and growing operating cash flow year-on-year. Lastly, we continued with our debt reduction program after taking decisive actions to increase financial flexibility. Thank you very much, and now we are ready to take your questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press 01 on your telephone keypad. To cancel your question, please press 02. Once again, that's 01 to register a question and 02 to cancel. We will kindly ask you to ask a maximum of two questions per participant. If possible, we recommend you not to use your cell or hands-free phone. There will be a short silence whilst questions are being registered. Our first question comes from the line of Tim Boddy from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead with your question.

Tim Boddy
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yes, thank you for the question. I wanted to ask a little bit about Spain, where it looks like the general KPI is weakened fairly materially sequentially from the fourth quarter level, obviously with slightly slower uptake of Fusión, with significant increase in line losses and obviously the mobile contract adds. Where do you see these trends going over the next couple of quarters? Is there a tipping point in your mind where you have to think again about the need for incremental price cuts? The second point following that is really around the potential for ongoing cost saving in Spain, which you've highlighted. Is there any way you can quantify the kind of sequential ongoing benefits through the year we can see to the cost base in Spain? Thanks very much.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you very much, Tim. I think that your first question is to send again the message around what we're trying to achieve in Spain and what we believe is a very good evolution of our transformation strategy in first quarter 2013. If we take first that message, the consolidation of this transformation strategy, what we want to highlight is that, first of all, Fusión on the base of our sustained commercial momentum is very clear at the moment. We have continued having a very good traction of Fusión, which, as you know, is more than 1.7 million customers. We have improved our customer mix with 47% of gross adds that are new customers compared to the 30% that we saw in the last quarter of 2012. We have improved our customer satisfaction, which has logically impacted on lower churn rate consequently.

Importantly, as stated in our previous quarters, we have seen how Fusión has continued helping us to outperform in the fixed business. For example, we have had a very solid fixed broadband net adds, with very much focus on value services and positive churn evolution. As you know, on the pure fixed broadband net adds, we have had 52,000 in the first quarter of 2013, with improvement in the churn rate. Very importantly, the effect that we wanted to highlight in the last quarter is that the take in fiber, which is even higher value, is higher than the pure fixed broadband, with 60,000 in the first quarter. Again, I know that you've seen this, the fixed telephony net loss is below historical average, and we are seeing acceleration of mobile broadband adoption.

What it is very important to highlight with compared to the last quarter and to see the positive evolution on those KPIs that you think are below or decelerating, is that we admit that in the mobile business, we are seeing some impact. On the pure impact of those mobile net adds, what we have to address very clearly, what were the reasons of that mobile impact in our business, and we have done so. When you look at what's happened, this is definitely a shrinkage of the market. We have also seen that part of our loss of those net adds were to MVNOs, and those were mainly happening at the low end, at the very specific segment of the low end, both on the convergence and the pure mobile.

We addressed that specifically during the first quarter, and we adjust our tariffs in that specific segment. One, within the convergence segment, just putting some at what we call Fusión Cero, which was introduced at the end of April, so we have very little results yet. The others, which were very much focused on addressing the mobile-only business, which were the Movistar Cero and the Movistar Total, which were introduced at the beginning of the month of April. We believe that respect of the performance, we have continued to show an evolution, a positive evolution, and we have managed to address specifically the low end of the mobile business, which was affected so far.

If I may, as you asked me specifically for going forward, what we see, I can give you some of the results we are seeing in April, which consolidate the trends we have seen in terms of revenue stabilization, which were very important, as you remember, at the beginning of the fourth quarter and definitely during the first quarter. We have seen that April confirms revenue decline stabilization, and we expect this trend to continue despite the ongoing challenging macro competitive backdrop, which is a reality. In terms of our EBITDA margin, I want to confirm that we believe it is sustainable despite the top-line pressure and lower savings in commercial costs, but we are continuing with the simplification, as pointed out in the presentation made by Ángel in sourcing in Spain, and personal costs measures continue and will continue bearing their fruits.

We expect commercial trading improvement in mobile and maintaining those focus and momentum in fixed business fostered by the Fusión effect. I think I could continue talking, but probably we should go into the next question.

Tim Boddy
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

That was a great answer. Thank you.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Tim. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Georgios Ierodiaconou of Citi. Please go ahead with your question, sir.

Georgios Ierodiaconou
Analyst, Citi

Yes, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions. I have two. The first one is around the O2 Refresh tariff in the U.K. Is it possible to give us an indication of the level of subsidies you have today, and therefore, what could be a reasonable margin uplift on the back of these offers? If you could also give us an indication if you plan to do any factoring agreements, so we may even see a benefit on the net debt numbers as we progress through the year. My second question is a follow-up on Tim's question earlier around Movistar Fusión. Right now, we've seen that most of your competitors replicated the offer. I was wondering if you could give us an idea of how you plan to use Movistar TV in the future, perhaps to differentiate.

Right now, there is no discount for adding TV into the bundle. Is there any specific constraint that will prevent you from putting a discount on TV? Is there any issues around programming costs that may be perhaps the barrier to that? Thank you.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you, Georgios. With regard to the Refresh tariff, you know that we launched these new tariffs on April 16th, and as you know, they're quite the bold and innovative proposition for a commercial offer in the U.K. Just to clarify on the Refresh tariffs and in the Refresh offer, customer can have, first of all, the latest phone whenever they want. Customers can also choose their device and the tariffs from the O2 Refresh range that it is quite clearly overstated in the offer. Also, the customers can make a decision about how much they want to pay up front and how much to spread over time available over a 24-month contract. The truth is that it's a very early stage to give you results, but what we believe the impact so far is a positive one. We've seen people entering and understanding the tariffs.

I can tell you that probably out of 10, nine are taken on the Refresh tariffs. Although it's early days, we are seeing the positive momentum. With regards to the factoring, yes. That's an absolute yes. Probably going into the second question on the TV. When you look at on and what we were trying to achieve, it is clear that we have managed to convince the market with our converged offer, and now we look into the totality of the clients in a different way. We have to admit that the Imagenio or what we call the pay TV within Fusión on the net adds front is under pressure, and we believe there are a couple of analysis or reasons that we can take into account.

No doubt that the macroeconomic environment is challenging, somehow people can look at the TV or pay TV as a luxury good, although we're trying to adjust that in order to make sure that we get closer to our clients and we adjust the offer. The important factor is that ARPU has increased by 19% year-over-year due to the price increase that we had to implement in October 2012. Importantly, we analyzed, as we promised in the fourth quarter, very specifically how to adapt to market conditions the TV offering. So in April, exactly April 15th, Telefónica launched the promotional offer, which Imagenio can be subscribed at EUR 10 up to September. We've seen the right traction.

We can confirm this, and we are also expecting an improvement in the Imagenio performance in the following quarters based on this attractive promotion that is already being well-taken by our customers. Also, something that I stated in the last quarter of 2012, it was not just a matter of price, but also a matter of adjusting to our platform to a better look and feel, to a better technological offering, and that we are already working on that. I think we are quite ready to announce soon. Importantly as well, as I mentioned in the last quarter, we have to improve our content, which we will be working on that. The TV is something that is important to us, for the whole firm and very much in Spain as well. So, we will continue working on it.

Georgios Ierodiaconou
Analyst, Citi

Perfect. Thank you.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Georgios. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ivón Leal of BBVA. Please go ahead with your questions.

Ivón Leal
Analyst, BBVA

Hello, good afternoon, everybody. My two questions. The first one is in Spain, specifically on fiber. Are you satisfied with the 16% uptake that you see in the fiber product? Is it how we should look at the market going forward with 15%-20% uptake in the product? Eventually, do you feel you have to do something this year in order to push more aggressively on that? If this is the case, what you need to do and when you're going to do it? That's the first one. The second one is on Mexico. I don't know how we should think about operations in Mexico going forward. True that subscribers have performed a bit better in the fourth quarter, at the expense of much lower ARPU.

I don't know if you could share with us if you can live there with a mobile-only business or eventually how the strategy changes after the perspective of a new regulation there.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you, Ivón. I think if we go first to the fiber performance, we're very happy with the fiber performance, specifically with the continued commercial traction of the fiber net adds quarter after quarter. Just year-over-year, as you know, it's a 23% increase, into the first quarter. When you look at each of the variables that we are looking at, as I mentioned earlier, this quarter, we have had a positive net add of 60,000. We have added a new promotional tariff at levels of EUR 29.9 for 12 months in order to foster even more the fiber adoption, this was launched as well on April 15th. I believe that it is important to highlight what Fusión, the important help that Fusión is making into the take of fiber overall.

Fusión is, as we pretty much analyzed from the very early stages, is fostering and improving the business into the fixed business with positive impact on the fixed broadband net adds, even at a greater pace, the take on fiber. We see the 16% take as a very positive one, obviously, we will continue analyzing during the rest of the year and the quarters to come if there's any need to foster even more the fiber adoption. We believe it is important to see regulation being stable and being a regulation that fosters and helps us to continue investing, as you know, in fiber. So far, we maintain a flexible investment approach in the coming years with the goal to reach, as I stated last quarter, 8 million households by the end of 2015.

Ivón Leal
Analyst, BBVA

Thank you.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Yes, Ivón, this is Santiago. Two observations on Mexico. On regulation and the change of law. First, it has gone through both the Congress and the Senate, but the important things are still unknown. Those important things are how are the bylaws or the lesser level laws going to be written? Not because we expect anything different, of course, from what it says there, but because the nitty-gritty, the minutiae of the detail is going to be very significant to achieve the purposes of the reform, which basically should be favorable to the non-incumbents in Mexico. We are going to have to wait for the better part of the remainder of the year for that to actually transpire. We do think, however, that this is going to be a positive development, both for the Mexican market and for our operations in Mexico.

Addressing the quarterly numbers, you're quite right in pointing out that the lower ARPU numbers are a bit worrying. I'm less worried than the numbers show for two reasons. The strategy is working, and it is working because it is basically getting what we intended, which is get stability in the newcomers, in the net adds to the base. The hit rate there is almost on target with our expectations, but it is having a negative effect on the existing or prior customer base, which is taking advantage of the more attractive features and the more attractive tariffs, and therefore is trading down. That's where the ARPU decline is coming from.

Do we think this is going to lapse throughout the year, and that as the strategy unfolds, it will show itself that it has taken us away from a pure price war, which is alive and kicking very strongly in Mexico? You may have noticed that some of our competitors, especially the big incumbent, have sacrificed a very severe part of their profitability just to counter that amount. All in all, we think we're on the right track. It's going to take some time for it to show that this is indeed the case, and I urge you to look at the combination of the new additions to the base and the old degrading customers that are taking advantage of the new tariff.

Ivón Leal
Analyst, BBVA

Thank you, Santiago.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, everyone. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Frederic Boulan, Nomura. Please go ahead with your question.

Frederic Boulan
Analyst, Nomura

Hi. Thanks a lot for taking my question. If we could go back to Spain, please, couple of questions. First of all, at the time of the full year numbers, you had a message of an improvement in the business later in the year. Can you comment here on if you expect top line to start to get better at one point, specifically, what should we expect in terms of output dilution from migration to Total and Zero, which are probably 50% cheaper than the previous price points? If you could clarify the exact impact of the loyalty program. We had net sales decline doubling over Q4 2012, how is that helping the top line?

Third point, can you explain the phasing of the EBITDA versus what we saw in Q1 with much higher starting points in terms of margin, especially in the second half of last year at 47% margins already? Thank you very much.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you very much. I think that if I may start with Let me go first to the question around the back book or even the output dilution much better. Let me just make sure that I address, it was ARPU, it was loyalty, it was EBITDA, just to make sure.

Frederic Boulan
Analyst, Nomura

Yeah, that's it.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Perfect. Okay. Well, I would say that in terms of the revenue, the environment continues being tough. No one denies that. I would say that despite that revenue pressure, we see a better evolution in market share and net gains. Also, if you look at the fact that we have to do more repositioning, we believe those are very much focused on very specific segments, and we believe that global movements are from the past. When we look at the margins specifically, we believe that the improvement will be gradual and interannual as we improve as well our commercial costs and non-commercial costs.

To highlight that the simplification measures that we are taking, and I can expand a lot on that, the new negotiations with the unions in terms of personnel situation, and very importantly, the insourcing capabilities that we are incorporating into the business, that permit us to maintain margin, confirm the sustainability of those margins, and that despite the current tough situation on revenues. I would like to go a bit on what it means, simplification, and what it means insourcing in our operation. I would like to highlight that this is a number one priority work for our operation in Spain, and it's done with discipline and day-to-day care. I think that we have stated in the past the level of simplification in our operation in Spain, but I would like to give you some details, for example, with regards to the product portfolio.

In terms of references, we have gone down by more than 40,000 references, which have been eliminated from our catalog. That is more than 60%, and we continue to do so. In terms of simplification of systems, more than 800 terabytes of information have been deleted from our systems, and we continue doing so. The simplification of the services, I can mention at least 100 service applications have been switched off just in 2012, and there are more to come. There's been clear switch off of obsolete networks. There are many other efficiency measures that are impacting positively our operation. This is not just one quarter or two quarters. As I mentioned to you, we look at this on a daily basis, and Luis Miguel and team take this as a part of the daily activity.

That is investing in quality of customer service and getting more rational commercial expense, even in the advertising of our campaigns. We have reduced them substantially to just five during 2012. If you ask me if this is sustainable, I can tell you, and I can confirm you that we have still quite a lot of room to continue doing this and more. This is a matter of continuing this discipline and this way of working. When we speak about other things that we're doing that are quite innovative, as you know, Telefónica Spain implemented at the end of 2012 what we call insourcing.

Insourcing is innovative and is quite a bold movement in a country like the one we have today with tough economic conditions, in which you have to be creative in order to produce not only employment, but also being able to get more productivity in your operations. What we call insourcing, it is a matter of analyzing what were our outsourcing costs and our estimated OpEx related to that outsource. Just to give you an idea, we have analyzed around EUR 1 billion or more of OpEx, which is around 60% of our total costs, and also CapEx of around EUR 350 million. EUR 1.3 billion targeted in order to improve those costs and to get more insourcing than the outsourcing critical in our operation. We have targeted and we have already included 100 activities that have been insourced in several areas, like commercial, technical, and support areas.

We have already insourced 1,000 FTEs into our operation of Telefónica España. We have already started to generate savings for the company. I cannot give you specific data yet, but you will be able to see the impact on the next quarters. Just to give you examples of insourced activities, from maintenance of data warehouse, quality audits, surveys to telemarket phone operators, design and maintenance of model for traffic behavior, and many others. Insourcing at the moment, I think will be an example in this country, on how we can help not only our company to improve profitability, but also to use our resources in a more efficient way. The second question, which is clearly spot on in your analysis, we have read very carefully.

Yes, we have to say that the impact of the loyalty program is positive. That you can compare ARPU and customer base evolution versus service revenue, and you can get the numbers. I would highlight that the material impact on our revenues and figures is important. I think that it's fair to highlight it, but it's not the only factor to take into account, because we also know that subsidies have been removed. The combination of both is what will make the balance of the model. The impact of loyalty program will definitely fade on following quarter as subsidies removal was implemented in March last year. We will be still comparing with 2012 non-homogeneous figures. From third quarter, we will have a comparable year-on-year basis.

With regard to mobile ARPUs, those will be impacted by Fusión. We will see that positive impact in the fixed revenues.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Frederic. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Marsch from Berenberg. Please go ahead with your question.

Paul Marsch
Analyst, Berenberg

Hi, thank you very much. It's really just back on the domestic mobile business. I suppose the overall question is why is Fusión not helping your mobile churn rate? I understood that this was going to help the broadband side and the fixed side of the business, but I thought this was a trade-off of a lower spend for customers taking a bundled package in exchange for a lower churn rate, a longer customer lifetime, and a bigger customer lifetime value therefore, or at least a neutral customer lifetime value impact. Why is Fusión not actually helping your mobile churn rate? And perhaps in your answer, you could maybe give the mobile contract churn in the quarter as well. Thank you.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Well, thank you very much. I think that when you look at the mobile business, and we look at it from Fusión and from the non-Fusión point of view, it is clear that is where we have to be more innovative and look at the offer quarter by quarter, almost day by day and month by month. We needed to have a turnaround of hesitation, but analyze first what was going on. I think that there's a few things to look at. We were really, and when you look at the net loss, it is primarily two MVNOs, and it's primarily on the very specific segment, on the low end of the segment. That's what we had taken into account, and we have gone into looking how to address the issue. We have launched the tariffs, which are primarily different.

One is on the converge offer, which is what we call Fusión Cero, at the end of April. We have also addressed specifically the mobile business outside Fusión with the Movistar Cero and Movistar Total at the beginning of April. Again, those are all around the segment in which we were losing from convergence and from non-convergence in the low consumption area, or what you can call a very specific part of the whole chain. Our perception when I look and I speak with the Spanish team all the time is that we have now a completed offer in both mobile, fixed, including as well TV. And addressing specifically mobile, we believe we have addressed that with the new tariffs. Just to give you an example, this weekend, when people entered to look into the Fusión Cero, quite frankly, the reality is that people want to consume more data.

They ended up buying more into the EUR 49 to the EUR 50 offer. It is quite an important factor to explain to consumers what it means to have the Fusión Cero or the specific new mobile tariff. Another point to look at, and that's why we feel optimistic about the future, is that once you have the completed offering in all the segments, in all the tariffs and all the customer needs, we also looked at the commitment. Compared to competitors, yes, in the new tariffs, you have new commitments above the 12 months, and that, I believe, also compares better with the rest of the market.

When you look at what is happening in recent weeks since the launch of the tariffs, is that when you look at the customers entering and trying to get new tariffs or new offers, more than 50% of them are now within the converge offering, which is also a very positive sign. I hope I answered the question.

Paul Marsch
Analyst, Berenberg

Can I just follow on? Do you think then that the second quarter will be the quarter that we will see gross adds in mobile actually benefiting and the churn rates actually falling, as a result of these new developments around Fusión?

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Yes. We expect so, quite frankly.

Paul Marsch
Analyst, Berenberg

Okay.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Yes.

Paul Marsch
Analyst, Berenberg

Thank you very much.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Paul. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Luigi Minerva from HSBC. Please go ahead with your question.

Luigi Minerva
Analyst, HSBC

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is on Germany. KPN CEO in the last conference call, he expressed his desire for a network sharing agreement and went as far as saying that they would be ready to reimburse you part of the spectrum cost. Is this something which will be of interest to you? Is it better to get part of the spectrum money back and give up some of the competitive advantage you gained through the spectrum auction? The second question is on Latin America. The organic revenue growth is 6.8%, but if I exclude Venezuela and Argentina, I'm left with 1.5%. I'm wondering if this is a growth rate we should extrapolate for the rest of the year, and, if you see an improvement, where it could come from. Thank you.

José María Álvarez-Pallete
COO, Telefónica

Thanks for the question. Taking your first one on potential consolidation in Europe, and namely in Germany. We do think there are too many networks in Europe. We do think that consolidation makes sense, and we do think it will happen. We don't have ongoing conversation with KPN right now. As you know, they're in the middle of a rights issue process. We do think that our 800 MHz spectrum is a significant competitive advantage in Germany, and therefore, we are not willing to give it away at a marginal or at a limited price, because we do think it's valued even more than the time of the auction. At the same time, we keep improving our competitive position in Germany. As you know that we have been reaching some agreements, namely with Deutsche Telekom, with T-Mobile on the transport side to connect with fiber all our base stations.

More recently, this proposal to consolidate our wireline infrastructure into their infrastructure and renting back all the capacity that we need to bundle our products and services in Germany. We have been keeping advancing. We will wait, and we will be open and receptive to a specific proposal that might create value. By the way, we think that, on top of network sharing agreements, the value creation of a potential consolidation in Germany is on top of just a network sharing deal. There is no ongoing conversations today with KPN.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Yes, Luigi, in terms of the difference between ex-Venezuela and Argentina and the full line in organics, the numbers you have mentioned are impeccable. No question about that. We do expect three things to happen. First, there to be revenue growth.

We're confident that the Latin American region will continue contributing on organic terms, revenue growth. That is a strong and firm statement. Second, we do not expect the gap between the more inflationary and the non-inflationary markets to widen, but to shorten. The reason is threefold. Number one, we will be able, at some point, to increase tariffs and to improve revenue growth in the more backward markets. I'm thinking of Chile, I'm thinking of Mexico that I mentioned before, and I'm thinking of the expected recovery in the Brazilian market. Finally, because of the effect of the devaluation having happened in the first quarter of this year, it is unlikely that there will be a sizable devaluation like that in each and every quarter of the remainder of the year. The gap between the two should narrow.

Some underlying fundamental factors, especially in Chile, Mexico, should contribute along with Brazil. Finally, the inflationary nature of the cost-passing nature of some of these increases will be more visible as we go on. Certainly, there will be growth.

Luigi Minerva
Analyst, HSBC

Okay, thank you.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Luigi. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Will Milner of Arete. Please go ahead with your question.

William Milner
Analyst, Arete Research

Thanks. Just to continue the theme on Spanish mobile, I just want to come back to the impact of the loyalty programs, because it does look, for the last three quarters, that you enjoyed a very beneficial impact on the mobile service revenue trend from writing back points accrued under the loyalty programs that are no longer needed, given the elimination of subsidies. Looking at the sort of ARPU-based revenue, so if I take your ARPU and I multiply through by the average subscribers, it sort of suggests that revenue based on ARPU is down 26% in the first quarter compared to the service revenue decline of about -13%, -14%. The difference is the beneficial impact, as you say, of the loyalty points.

Given that this is going to lap in the third quarter, would you expect the mobile service revenue trend in Spain to trend towards a sort of -26% level without that benefit, or is there a reason why it should be close to -14%?

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you, Will. I think that, as I stated earlier, the loyalty program has had a material impact on our revenue figures. For us, looking into how our business it is today, we look now at fixed and mobile revenues all together. It's a totalized component, a totalized concept. In any case, it is clear that mobile ARPUs will be impacted by Fusión. On the other hand, what we see is a positive impact that comes from the fixed business. We also are seeing that, if you look at the operating revenues versus the total revenues versus the fixed revenues, you see clearly the different lines in operating revenues, -16.4% in the first quarter versus the operating revenues if you take out specifically the fixed business, which is -10.9%.

We see that balance, that compensated factor between the mobile reduction in ARPU and the increase of the fixed take. Overall, we will be able to see like for like from the third quarter. I can tell you from the figures we are seeing on these weeks of April that the trend is the right one.

William Milner
Analyst, Arete Research

I have one follow-up, again, on Mexico. I appreciate there are uncertainties, I guess, in terms of what the Telecoms Reform Act, specifically what new laws drop out. I guess the question would be, what would you like to see dropping out from those reforms, given your current position and given your current trends? Obviously, it looks a very difficult task competing with Telcel. Then, I guess related to that, do you see any potential acquisitions specifically in that market that could improve your position there, that could add value? Or are you still very focused on disposals over acquisitions in the region? Thanks.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Let me take the question on reform. As I said, I was not trying to avoid the question, it's difficult to paint the whole picture until the full law has been written down and explained in detail. What do we expect? We expect a level playing field to obtain, which is not what we think we have today. Any obstacles that now prevent us from competing fairly as we do elsewhere in the region, we expect them to be removed as the law is passed. Just exactly what those things are, I'd rather not comment publicly, but it is not very difficult to look at Mexico as an anomaly, because elsewhere in the region, the difference between the first and the second and the efforts that all of us have put into competition have yielded some results, except Mexico.

Maybe Mexico is the rara avis, is the rare bird, rather than our own efforts. We do expect, as I said, that many of these things will happen and exactly which remains an open thing. As to whether or not in Mexico or elsewhere there will be opportunities, it's probably not for me to say, but we continue to scan anything available and, in due course, we will inform you if there is anything. We do not think that a major combination is needed in order for us to fulfill our goals.

William Milner
Analyst, Arete Research

Thank you.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Will. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Justin Funnell from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead with your question.

Justin Funnell
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Yeah, a couple of questions, please. Just firstly on Brazil. You mentioned that you've introduced multi-device plans in Brazil. That's been a very successful strategy for Verizon in the U.S. Could you just elaborate a little bit more on those plans and what you expect the effect could be on your growth over the next couple of quarters, please? Equally on Brazil fixed line, your revenue trend got a bit worse there. As I understand it now, your focus is to speed up your broadband to build more fiber. Where do you think your fiber build will be by the end of this year? Do you think you'll have pretty much fixed the problem by then, or is it going to take longer? Finally, it was a slight surprise to see the fundraising, the capital increase, the share issue earlier this quarter or earlier this year.

I understand that it's important to hit your debt targets, the stress on your balance sheet and your bond yield is far less than it was a year ago. It seems you're pretty determined to reduce leverage come what may. Just wondering what your priorities are here. Is it to perhaps create more of a gap between your credit rating and the credit rating of Spain? Is it to hit your dividends promise or are actually starting to try and create more balance sheet capacity through acquisitions in the future?

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Justin, let me take the question on Brazil first, or the two questions on Brazil. First, on the new plans. Well, Vivo continues to try and be at the forefront of innovation. I think the latest plan, which is barely three weeks old, is actually pointing in that direction. What it is a combination of data plans that allow a single payer to exhaust multiple users. Typically, a family with one payer and multiple members in it, now being allowed to combine or enterprise the data usage. We think this is flying very well. It is very early days, it is flying very well. We will continue and delve deeper into what is it that customers need, expect, or could have a better service with us for. Not everything will last forever and successful products or plans are immediately copied.

We do expect that to continue being the case. This plan is expected to be ARPU accretive, it's expected to be service enhancing, and certainly the first reactions from our customers show high satisfaction and high praise for the plan. We are very happy with the first three weeks of this product. In terms of fixed, the plan is the one you probably have already heard us talk about, is to develop broadband at the high end, including fiber. We do expect the São Paulo market to be covered with 1.7 million homes passed, which is significantly better than what we have today. That includes both fiber and the cable that we have with minor overlapping. The rough numbers are 1.2, 1.3 in fiber, 0.7, 0.8 in cable, and the overlap is around 0.3 million.

By the end of this year, we should be able to access almost all the households that we think are worthy of the investment. It should be by the end of this year that if we have been successful, we should be able to raise the flag and say, "Here we are." At that time, broadband might be at a better position than it is today.

Justin Funnell
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

With regard to the second question, Justin. Hello, this is Ángel.

Justin Funnell
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hi.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

We decided to place a treasury stock at the end of the quarter just with the motivation to reduce debt. We had seen that our net debt position had increased due to the Venezuela devaluation. We also had the cash outlay in the first quarter regarding the payment of the U.K. spectrum, which came very nicely at around 50% of what the market had been estimating the bill would be, but still, it had to be paid. We have traditional seasonal elements in the first quarter. Particularly, working capital consumption from CapEx accrued in the last quarter of the previous year. Some impacts on interest payments or financial payments ahead of accruals due to the concentration of some bond payments in the first quarter and some fees up from fees of new facilities that appear in the first quarter.

At that point, what we realized is that there could be a moment of increasing net debt compared to the end of last year. We wanted to send a clear signal that we remain committed to reducing our leverage and achieving our target and commitment to market of less than EUR 47 billion, to be below 2.35 times net debt to EBITDA. We decided to place those shares. We also wanted to send a signal to the market that we were committed to pay the dividend in cash, and no scrip dividend to be contemplated. This was the reason of doing the transaction in a moment that was prior to the closing of the quarter, so that we could record, as you have seen in our net debt evolution, an evolution in the trend of the decline that we wanted.

After the closing of the quarter, we have continued progressing. We have managed to close the second tranche of the Hispasat divestment, which is now completely divested. We already got the payment for the sale of our U.K. broadband asset. Last week we announced the sale of 40% to financial investors and strategic investors in the Central American region of our assets. We have continued to reduce our stake in Portugal Telecom, which now lies below 2%. We continue committed to deleveraging, and this is the reason behind the placement of the treasury stock, which was not a new equity raising. It was just a placement of treasury stock.

Justin Funnell
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you very much.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Thank you, Justin. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Robin Bienenstock from Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead with your question.

Robin Bienenstock
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Yeah. Hi. Thanks so much. Two questions, if I may. The first is that you're clearly working hard to improve your own balance sheet, but various press reports suggest that you're less enthusiastic about Telecom Italia improving its balance sheet with investments from Hutchison or the CDP. I'm wondering to what extent there's a sort of growing conflict of interest between you and the other stakeholders in Telco, and whether or not that's sustainable. My second question is, we've seen a clear desire from the European Union to see a reduction in pan-European data roaming costs for consumers. I think we're starting to see the beginnings of consortia like Star Alliance consortia in airlines. Could compete away a lot of those revenues. Is that something you're interested in participating in proactively in those sorts of consortia? Are you more interested in trying to resist the regulation?

Thanks very much.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

Hi, Robin. This is Ángel. Let me take your question on Italy. We are happy with our position in Telco. We have a very good relationship. I think we have a relationship of trust with our partners in Telco and our position in Telecom Italia. As such, we will be supportive of actions that improve the value of Telecom Italia, because we are among the first beneficiaries in that situation, because we are indirectly the largest shareholder in that company. Some of the topics which are being widely speculated in the media, it's difficult for us to give clear details. Probably this is better asked to Telecom Italia tomorrow. From our position as Telco shareholders, for instance, with respect to a potential market consolidation in mobile in Italy, I should say that no specific proposal has been made to Telco.

If and when such a proposal were to be made, Telco would have to analyze its merits and its risks, including aspects such as valuation, deal structure, antitrust implications, credit rating implications, and other. It's early to say, and we don't have information to have an opinion. With respect to network separation and a potential CDP investment, what the situation is similar. We don't have, as Telco shareholders, information to give an opinion on that. It's clearly an unprecedented move in the Telco space, particularly in Europe. As such, we understand that Telecom Italia is analyzing it very carefully, as they should. Probably the question is to be addressed to them tomorrow.

Robin Bienenstock
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Thanks.

Eva Castillo Sanz
Member of the Board of Directors, Governance, and Financial Oversight, Telefónica

Thank you, Robin. With respect to your second question, I will ask José María to complement my introduction in the answer. I think when we look at Europe, we are focusing on the new commercial activity on the new tariffs, which are pretty much data centric, LTE taken for those countries that are there, and they are incorporating roaming. For that effect, I think that is what we have to do, remaining regulation the way it is. Trying to be very innovative and focus on commercial activity that way. I think José María, maybe you want to add something else.

José María Álvarez-Pallete
COO, Telefónica

Yes. Hi, Robin, José María here. Remember that we already launched on a market roaming tariff in Europe for our own customers. We already have that in place, and we already are seeing the effects of that data roaming products in our own catalog of products and services for our own units and business units in Europe. For the remainder of the competitive landscape, yes, we are open to conversations. We think this is something that needs to be structured jointly with the regulatory effect. Part of the effort is already being done through our own products and service catalog. Yes, we are open to participate in a joint effort.

Robin Bienenstock
Analyst, Sanford Bernstein

Thank you.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

Thank you, Robin. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Fabián Lares from JB Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question.

Fabián Lares
Analyst, JB Capital Markets

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. With regards to the Spanish evolution, [nueva] has been mentioning that they believe that the margin is sustainable. I would like to focus more on the CapEx situation. Over the first quarter, the decline has been substantial. Considering you have ahead the deployment of LTE and fiber to the home and the likely acceleration of it, is this a seasonal kind of figure that we should be expecting? Or how much of this should we consider to be sustainable going forward in order to project our operational cash flow estimates? Second, also in Spain, regarding the evolution of pay TV, you mentioned over this week over the relaunch of Movistar TV. Maybe if you could comment more exactly, if it is possible to mention whether there is any intention to integrate further with your participation in Prisa Canal+.

Are you going to get more content? What does that agreement that you have with Prisa report to you in terms of not only being a minority shareholder in Prisa TV, but also being a shareholder in Prisa itself in the future? Thank you.

José María Álvarez-Pallete
COO, Telefónica

Thank you very much for your question. On the first part of your question, last year or at the beginning of the year, we already said that CapEx would be below the level of last year for 2013. The commitment of this year's CapEx will continue being intact. It is absolutely true, the first quarter gets and takes some seasonality effect. There is less during the first quarter that has been taken, but we maintain our commitment on all the investments that we wanted to do. In fact, as you know, I stated earlier how important it is today, specifically in Spain, the investment on the new generation networks and specifically in fiber. Just to confirm on that.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

With regard to the second question on Digital+, as you know, we own 22% in the company along with Prisa and Mediaset. We are happy with that investment. There are continuously rumors on the market, but there is nothing concrete to report on this front.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Fabián. Next question, please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Luis Prota from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead with your question.

Luis Prota
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes. Thank you. Two questions, please. The first is on regulation and the request from Vodafone and Orange to get access to Telefónica fiber network. I do not know whether you could give us some light on what are exactly their requests, and how this request or the agreement they want to achieve differentiate to the agreement that you reach with Jazztel, whether you expect any regulatory intervention on the back of this anytime soon, forcing access to Telefónica fiber network. The second question is a follow-up on the debt figure and the debt target of being below EUR 47 billion year-end. The question is whether this target is achievable this year without further asset disposals or asset sales being required.

From what we know so far in terms of asset disposals, whether in an organic way, you can get to this level, any further disposal could be on top of, I do not know whether you can mention or on recently, comments on potential IPO in Colombia, reduction of the stake in Czech Telecom, selling Ireland. Are any of these contemplated? Thank you.

José María Álvarez-Pallete
COO, Telefónica

Thank you, Luis. I think that the question around regulation and about some of our competitors' messages, I think it is important to clarify that our existing agreement of co-investment in fiber with Jazztel is happening and is happening in the terms that we agreed with Jazztel. As you know, we compromised in both players granting accesses for 3 million premises in 18 months, 1.5 million each, that is happening, and we are quite satisfied with that. This agreement was from the very beginning, open to other third-party players. I believe that it is very important to state in this market the conditions that we have, that you have to be willing to invest. That is what we are just requesting, that our agreement is open. I think it would be good idea to get other third participants in it.

The willingness for them to invest is a must, for that, I guess that that wouldn't alter at all any of our plans of investing in the fiber business.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

Hello, Luis. Regarding reduction of debt towards the target that we have for the end of the year, we plan to achieve that debt reduction in two ways. One is organically, with free cash flow in excess of dividends. As you have seen, we are going, and now it's formally proposed to the shareholder meeting, we're going to pay EUR 0.35 in November of dividend in cash. This would be the first tranche, the interim part of the dividend of the EUR 0.75 that we committed to the market. The second tranche would be paid next year. Our most updated internal estimates of free cash flow exceed significantly the cash commitment that we have with dividends, there will be organic debt reduction and deleverage due to that. Second, we continue to very actively manage our portfolio of assets. We don't feel comfortable commenting on market rumors.

We have, as you know, traditionally been shy about commenting on specific situations and transactions, because it's never easy, unless in the times that we're living, to get deals to the finish line. We do not want to create uncomfortable situations in our operations. Having said this, we are managing our portfolio, aiming to increase the value of the businesses where we are present. We are not in an expansion mode, but yes, we can be in a strengthening mode in some of the markets where we operate. Some of those markets could benefit from a market consolidation, and there are several examples. José María spoke about one of them before. Ireland could be another one. In Colombia, I want to stress that we are not sellers. In Colombia, we are seeing a very good growth as you saw in the presentation, in my remarks reading the presentation.

Here we are just initiating the talks with our partner, who is the Colombian government, about possibilities to capitalize the company to accelerate growth, in doing so, providing liquidity to the partner. The Czech Republic continues to be a very strong cash generator. You should expect us to actively manage the portfolio. You saw the Central American transaction, you saw the U.K. broadband, you should expect us to continue doing things, therefore reduce debt organically and inorganicallly.

Luis Prota
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Ángel. If I can follow up on this Colombian comment you made on the talks with the government to capitalize the company to foster growth. Would that imply that Telefónica is putting or has to put more money? Or when you said you are not sellers, it could be that you are just giving entrance to the government, putting more money and diluting your position, reducing debt, but keeping still the majority and reducing net debt at the end like it happened last year. How would that structure? Thank you.

Ángel Vilá
Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Telefónica

It's too early to say. We are assessing different options. Obviously, we are talking with our partner on that. Whenever there is a definite structure and steps going forward, we will duly communicate to the market.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

Thank you, Luis. We have time for just one more question. Please.

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Jonathan Dann from Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.

Jonathan Dann
Analyst, Barclays

Hi there. It's two questions. One, if you look across the various assets, you've got multi-device in markets like Germany, Brazil, but not, for example, in the U.K. Vice versa, you have, say, network sharing in some countries, but not others. I mean, is there a plan to, for example, do multi-devices in the U.K., and why the delay? Secondly, network sharing, say, beyond simply Brazil. A final, I guess, philosophical question. Is the right way to monitor LatAm to ignore inflation? I mean, do you guys incentivize local management with perhaps real revenue growth? I guess otherwise, you're sort of better off managing Venezuela than Brazil.

José María Álvarez-Pallete
COO, Telefónica

Hi, Jonathan. Yes, with regard to the multi-device and the new potential in the U.K. market, definitely like in the other markets, for example, we could use that opportunity when trying to price LTE appropriately. On the other question regarding network sharing, as you know, we have already shown that we are open for innovative network sharing situations, and in fact, we will not lose out any opportunity in order to give our clients a better service and better option. I think the beauty of current market in Europe is that is one way to continue having a good network and being open to also share it with the others, and get benefit both sides as we are seeing currently in Germany, Spain, or in other markets. I'm not sure if there was anything else for me.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Jonathan, on the philosophical question and at the risk of stating the obvious, two pieces of information. One is we assess the quality of local management in local currency. The Venezuelans are judged on Bolívars, and the Brazilians are judged on reais. As we think they should, because we do manage centrally in headquarters the currency risks associated with our investments and our operations. Again, at the risk of stating the obvious, there are two sides to how inflationary economies are treated. One is, are you or are you not able to pass higher costs on to higher prices? There, management is sometimes at odds with trying to pass on the increases in its costs to the revenues, and at a highly regulated sector like ours, this is especially difficult.

If you look at a country like Venezuela, you see that all in all, we have been very successful in doing actually that. Probably not on a day-to-day basis, but yes, on an event by event basis, as you see by the margins not having contracted. The second effect, which is more difficult to manage locally, it is managed centrally, is how many euros or dollars these highly inflationary economies actually deliver in the way of FX. That's not what we do locally, but that's what the currency risk management team does centrally. Managers are judged on local currency, passing cost inflation on to products is difficult, but so far so good. The risk of devaluation or of depreciation is always present, but we try and manage that to the extent wanted or needed centrally.

Jonathan Dann
Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thank you.

Santiago Fernández Valbuena
CEO Telefónica Latinoamérica, Telefónica

Thank you, Jonathan.

Pablo Eguirón
Head of Investor Relations, Telefónica

With this, we have to finish the call. Thank you very much for your participation, and we certainly do hope that we have provided some useful insights for you. Good afternoon.

Operator

Telefónica's January, March 2013 results conference call is over. You may now disconnect your line. Thank you.