Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited (BOM:500184)
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Q3 25/26

Jan 21, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited Q3 and 9M FY 2026 conference call hosted by MUFG. As a reminder, all participants' lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be no opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone phone. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Chirag Bhatia from MUFG. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Q3 and Nine Month FY2026 Earning Conference Call of Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited. Today on the call, we have with us Mr. Anurag Choudhary, CMD and CEO, Mr. Somesh Satnalika, EVP, Tyres and Strategy, and Mr. Kamlesh Agrawal, CFO. Before we proceed with the call, I would like to give you a disclaimer that this conference call may contain a forward-looking statement about the company, which is based on the beliefs, opinions, and expectations as of today.

Actual results may differ materially. The statements are not the guarantees of the future performance and involve the risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. A detailed statement is being given on page two of the investor presentation of the company, which is being uploaded on the stock exchange and the company website. With this, I now hand over the call to Mr. Anurag Choudhary. Over to you, sir.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you, Chirag. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today to discuss the performance of Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited for the third quarter and nine months ended 31st December 2025. We sincerely appreciate your continued interest, trust, and engagement with the company. I am pleased to share that we have started trial production of the Specialty Carbon Black Expansion Project, a landmark achievement for Himadri. With this, Himadri has the world's largest single-site Specialty Carbon Black plant, with a total capacity of 130,000 metric tons per annum. This milestone underscores our continued focus on high-value added solutions and marks the beginning of the next phase of growth in our Specialty Carbon Black journey. In Coal Tar Pitch, we achieved a key milestone with the commissioning of a Mangalore port terminal, successfully delivering 3,600 metric tons of liquid Coal Tar Pitch to the Middle East.

This establishes a second export corridor, along with Haldia, significantly enhancing our logistics flexibility and opening up access to new global markets. We are well-positioned to cater to rising international demand while offering best-in-class quality at globally most competitive prices. Supported by operational excellence, continued improvements in yield, and waste heat recovery systems, we continue to drive sustainable profitability. Our commitment to sustainability was once again reaffirmed as EcoVadis awarded Himadri the Platinum Medal for the second consecutive year, placing us amongst the top 1% of over 150,000 companies globally assessed on ESG parameters. This recognition reflects our deeply embedded approach to sustainability, anchored in strong governance, climate-conscious operations, ethical business practices, and responsible supply chain management. At the heart of Himadri's performance are our people.

We are honored to be certified as a Great Place to Work, a testament to the strong and inclusive culture we have consciously nurtured over the years. The year to date has been marked by steady execution and meaningful progress. We have remained firmly anchored on operational discipline, deepening customer relationships, and strengthening institutional capabilities to support long-term growth. This consistency of approach continues to deliver results, reflected in our robust financial performance with PAT growing 41% year-on-year, with nine months FY 2026 PAT exceeding PAT of FY 2025. As we look ahead, we do so with the confidence what we set out to achieve in FY 2026. We have realized, and the preparation for future projects is already progressing well, laying a strong foundation for sustained and profitable growth.

We have also been actively investing in our rubber, plastic, and coating laboratories to enhance product performance across critical parameters such as ease of dispersion, reduced filter press values, and improved conductivity to lower loading. With the commencement of trial production at the Specialty Carbon Black Expansion Project, we have significantly strengthened our ability to serve the growing demand of customized and application-specific carbon black grades. This places us in a strong position to address the global requirement for performance-enhancing Specialty Carbon Black used in premium and high-value applications across plastics, inks, high-performance coatings, batteries, paints, wires and cables, fibers, rubber, EV tires, and several other niche applications. In parallel, our recently launched branded naphthalene ball brand, Durofresh, has received an encouraging response in the retail market, adding further depth to our diversified portfolio. The first-of-its-kind commercial anthraquinone and carbazole facility in India remains firmly on schedule for Q2 FY2027.

This project reinforces our commitment to innovation and improved substitution, while aligning closely with the Government of India's vision of Atmanirbhar Bharat, aimed towards strengthening domestic manufacturing capabilities. Over the past two years, volume and supply were largely constrained by operating at peak capacity utilization and dynamic raw material prices. With the start of trial production at the Specialty Black Expansion Project, along with the de-bottling of our coal tar pitch distillation capacity, we now have the necessary headroom to reignite growth in coming quarters and further consolidate our leadership position. Birla Tyres continues to strengthen its footprint across India and key international markets, including Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.

Supported by a robust and expanding distribution network of 36 distributors and over 640 dealers, its diversified portfolio now comprises more than 80 products across flagship brands such as Kalapathar, Loadmax, UltraGrip, FarmHaul, Platina, Sunplus, XL Grip, LG, Road Miler, Zeta, V339, Ultratrac, and many others. Engineered to deliver superior grip, mileage, and durability across varied customer applications, the team at Birla Tyres continues to scale in both capability and size, with modernization initiatives progressing well to enhance offerings across the highway tires, commercial vehicles, agriculture, and industrial segments. For passenger car radial unit designed specifically for EV and SUV installation of plant and machinery is being planned. This will position Birla Tyres to participate meaningfully in the fast-moving mobility segment while complementing Himadri's broader strategic ambitions. The most transformational chapter in Himadri's journey is our entry into battery materials.

Lithium-ion batteries represent a structural shift in global energy consumption, and anode and cathode materials together constitute about 65% of the total battery cell cost, making materials innovation centered on long-term value creation. On the cathode side, we are focused on lithium iron phosphate, a chemistry gaining rapid global acceptance due to its safety, longevity, and cost efficiency. Our long-term vision is to build 200,000 metric tons of LFP cathode active material capacity in phases, catering to approximately 100 gigawatt-hours of battery energy demand. The first commercial phase of 40,000 metric tons per annum remains on track for Q3 FY2027, positioning Himadri at the heart of the e-mobility ecosystem as the first commercial LFP cathode active material plant globally outside China, serving both domestic and international markets across mobility and energy storage applications.

On the anode side, our strong legacy and deep expertise in carbon chemistry provide a clear strategic advantage. We are one of the only companies to have backward integration in terms of raw material availability. Intense research and testing are underway as we progress steadily towards the development of a comprehensive spectrum of anode solutions, including synthetic natural hybrid and silicon-carbon-based technologies, thereby strengthening our capabilities in this high-growth and strategically critical domain. As Himadri writes the new chapter in the Himadri Reloaded phase, we continue to expand across multiple high-value categories. While Specialty Carbon Black, Coal Tar Pitch, and Specialty Oil Naphthalene remain at our core, we are actively expanding our product portfolio and making sustained investments in research and development to support future growth. At Himadri, R&D is not a department; it is embedded in our DNA. It shapes how we think, operate, and deliver value.

Over the years, we have built a global R&D ecosystem, bringing together exceptional talent, including PhDs and subject-matter experts from the USA, Japan, South Korea, China, South America, Australia, and Europe. This rich techno-cultural diversity fuels innovation, agility, and a forward-looking mindset, enabling us to lead in new technologies and product developments for emerging and sunrise industries. Our commitment to innovation is further strengthened through strategic investments in Sicona, IBC, and Invati, which have enhanced our technological depth and accelerated our innovation pipeline. With the strong synergies between our innovation and research team, we are not only collaborating on new developments and emerging technologies but have also been leveraging shared expertise to adopt best practices and strengthen our processes across our core verticals. Together, we are developing a sustainable growth engine that is paving the way for a portfolio of innovative products built on cutting-edge technologies.

These collaborations have enabled us to establish a strong joint product development map that leverages our collective expertise across cell chemistry, battery science, material technology, and operational excellence. Our shared focus is on developing solutions grounded in principles of sustainability and circularity for the sunrise sector, such as high-performance and high-value added defense applications, drones, AI data centers, mobility, and many more. Today, R&D at Himadri goes far beyond product development. It is about advancing technologies, transforming processes, and unlocking new possibilities to keep us ahead in a rapidly evolving global landscape. In parallel, we continue to actively leverage artificial intelligence and digital tools across work streams: procurement, logistics, inventory, material management, quality management, sales and marketing, and manufacturing to sharpen execution, improve predictability, and build a more agile, data-driven operating model for the future.

This year marks a defining chapter in Himadri's journey, characterized by progress, resilience, and purposeful execution. The path we envisioned is unfolding with clarity, and we continue to build on that momentum and confidence. As we look ahead, the horizon is bright, filled with opportunities that will take us to greater heights and unlock new possibilities. Together, we are shaping a future of sustained growth and innovation. Before concluding, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to our colleagues, partners, and investors for their continued trust and support. With this, I hand over to our CFO, Mr. Kamlesh Agrawal, who will take you through the financial performance in detail. Thank you, Kamlesh. Please.

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Thank you, Anurag ji, and good evening, everyone. I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but your voice is breaking. Now it's okay?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, please go ahead, sir, now.

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Anurag ji, and good evening, everyone. I trust you have had the opportunity to review our financial results, the latest investor presentation, and press release, all of which have been made available on the stock exchanges and on our company's website. Let me now take you through the financials for the quarter and nine months ended 31st December 2025. On a standalone basis, we are pleased to share that we have already surpassed our full-year FY25 PAT within the first nine months of FY26. This outcome clearly reflects the effectiveness of our strategic focus. I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but again, your voice is breaking. Hello. Now it's clear? Yes, sir. This outcome clearly reflects the effectiveness of our strategic focus on value-added products, which continues to be the key driver of profitability and margin expansion.

From a quarterly perspective, in Q3 FY2026, standalone revenue stood at INR 1,133 crores, EBITDA was INR 249 crores, registering a 12% year-on-year growth, while profit after tax came in at INR 195 crores, reflecting a strong growth of 37% year-on-year increase. These results underscore the consistency of our execution despite a dynamic operating environment. Looking at the cumulative performance for nine months FY2026 on a standalone basis, revenue stood at approximately INR 3,304 crores.

EBITDA increased to INR 726 crores, representing a 19% year-on-year growth compared to INR 611 crores in nine months FY2025. Profit after tax stood at INR 564 crores, marking a 41% year-on-year growth over approximately INR 400 crores in the corresponding period last year. Now turning to our consolidated performance in Q3 FY2026, revenue stood at INR 1,184 crores, with EBITDA at INR 253 crores, compared to INR 225 crores in Q3 FY2025, reflecting a 12% growth. Profit after tax at INR 192 crores.

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Sorry, but I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir. Again, voice is breaking.

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Yeah. Profit after tax came in at.

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Sir, again, it's breaki ng.

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Hello. Am I audible now? Now my voice is clear?

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Yes, yes. It's clear now.

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Profit after tax came in at INR 192 crores, registering a growth of 36% against INR 141 crores in Q3 FY2025. For nine months FY2026, on a consolidated basis, revenue stood at approximately INR 3,373 crores. EBITDA was INR 726 crores, reflecting a growth of around 18%, while profit after tax stood at INR 548 crores, a 37% increase over nine months FY2025. This performance highlights the strength and resilience across all the business segments. From an operational perspective, our sales volume for nine months FY2026 stood at 428,072 metric tons as compared to 415,629.

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but again, your voice is breaking. No, no, we can't hear you properly, sir.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Let me take it over. Anurag here.

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Sure, sir.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Kamlesh, let me take it over. Am I audible?

Chirag Bhatia
Head of Investor Relations, MUFG

Yes, it's loud and clear from my end.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

From an operational perspective, our sales volume for the nine months FY2026 stood at INR 428,572 metric tons as compared to INR 415,679 metric tons in the previous year, reflecting a growth of 3%. EBITDA per metric ton stood at INR 16,934 in nine months FY2026 compared to INR 14,707 in nine months FY2025, representing a 15% improvement driven by product mix that remains increasingly focused on high-value added offerings. I'm also pleased to share that during the quarter, the promoters have further strengthened their stake in Himadri through conversion of INR 10,000,000 warrant into equity.

The warrants are acquired at a total price of INR 316 per warrant. Promoters' shareholding now stands at 52.5%. This development underscores the promoters' continued confidence and long-term commitment to Himadri's growth journey. Strengthening promoters' stake not only enhances the company's capital structure but also demonstrates the immense faith in our business as we embark on the next phase of expansion and value creation for all our stakeholders. Overall, these results reinforce our confidence that Himadri is well-positioned to continue its upward journey and trajectory, supported by a strong financial foundation, disciplined execution, and a clear strategic direction. We can now open the session for question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-stone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Our first question comes from the line of Divyansh Thakur from Fintrust Capital. Please go ahead.

Divyansh Thakur
Equity research analyst, Fintrust Capital

Sir, congratulations on the great set of numbers. We have mentioned the roadmap to grow and accelerate towards 2028. How do we vision that? How do we scale it up? We start our operations for the phase one cathode in quarter three. We have also built our tires gradually ramping up. How do we see the coming years and how do we shape the development for the company going ahead?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you, Divyansh. If you look at the profitability achievements for FY2024, we achieved a PAT of INR 411 crore. In FY2025, we gave a guidance that in the next three years, that is, by FY2027, we will double the PAT, effectively INR 800 crore plus. If you look in FY2026, we are already nearing the target. Now, FY 2025, we had a PAT of around INR 558 crore. With all these projects coming in, with new capacities coming in, value-added products coming in, we are confident that the profit will again double from FY 2025 to FY 2028, so in two years from now. What you are saying is that the PAT level of FY 2025, when we see the PAT level of FY 2027, it will double. Am I right?

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

FY 2028.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

FY 2028. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. FY 2028. Also, there are INR 811. We are giving the same guidance we gave one year back. We are giving the same guidance which we gave one year back when we articulated that PAT will double in three years. Same thing we are saying. Again, now, one year fast forward, the PAT will double again in three years from FY 2025 to FY 2028. Only one disclaimer is that last time when we told it will be done, it was done in two years instead of three years.

Divyansh Thakur
Equity research analyst, Fintrust Capital

That's great, sir. Sir, also, I wanted to get a look out on how the cathode material operations that are coming. I think this is the first one in India to come up. Also, I saw some headlines that you are in talks with some large players. If you can give some more information on that. Definitely. In terms of cathode, our pilot demo plant is under construction and expected to be commenced in the fourth quarter. Post that, we will be sending sample B to our customers. There are a series of samples which need to be approved by the customers. The next phase of sampling will start. Sir, can you name some customers?

Kamlesh Agrawal
Data Analytics Professional, Sunstone

Hello. Hello. Am I audible?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yeah, yeah. You are audible. Please.

Divyansh Thakur
Equity research analyst, Fintrust Capital

Sir, can you name some customers?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

No, we cannot name some customers. The global customers plus India customers, we have NDA, so we cannot disclose the names on public forum. Regarding the capacities for Lithium Iron Phosphate, we expect FY2029 to be the full year of operation for Lithium Iron Phosphate.

Divyansh Thakur
Equity research analyst, Fintrust Capital

Okay. That's great, sir. That's all from my end and all the best for the coming quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dhruvin Kadakia from SKP Securities. Please go ahead.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

Hello, sir. Congratulations. Great set of numbers. I just wanted to begin with three small questions on our quarterly result, and then I'll join the queue. My first question is, sir, with regards to our EBITDA per ton, sir. In this particular quarter, when I did my calculations for EBITDA per ton, I have noticed that we've seen a decline on a sequential basis despite our revenues, etc., which has seen a growth. I wanted to understand the reason behind it. Second, I wanted to understand the sporadic increase in the other income. Sorry. Other income has almost grown by 290% on a year-on-year basis. Last question would be with respect to what are the tire sales that we've made for this particular quarter. That's all.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Regarding EBITDA per ton, if you look at it, it is more or less in line because depending on quarter to quarter, the number changes, but it's very minimum. That is the level where it is more or less stabilized now. For other income, we have made investment in IBC, in which we have got this investment at a comparatively much lower cost. Some valuation has been done as per the accounting standard because of which there has been some increase in the other income. Other than the investments that we have made, if you look at, we have borrowed a significant amount of money. At the same time, we have invested in banks. That interest is also there.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

Okay, sir. The last was regarding tire sales for this particular quarter. Where do we stand currently, and how much do we expect to end the year in terms of our Birla Tyres revenue-wise? Revenue-wise, the current quarter, we have already achieved INR 60 crore-plus of revenue. Looking forward, we expect the momentum to strengthen further.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

From the next year, you'll see capacity ramp-up taking place in Birla Tyres.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

All right, sir. Thank you so much. I'll join the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-stone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Samvardhan Sarda from Money Stories Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Sumit Sarda
Founder, Compound Everyday Capital Management

Hello. Good evening, team. My question was regarding the cathode capacity targeting. Since we are targeting to cater about 100 gigawatt-hours worth of cathode, is it that we expect a huge market share in India and globally, or is it that we are trying to capture a huge size of a small market share?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Your question is not clear. Can you repeat it, please?

Sumit Sarda
Founder, Compound Everyday Capital Management

Okay. I was asking about the cathode capacity which we are targeting, which is about 100 gigawatt-hours, which we are targeting, right? Is it that we are expecting a huge market, or is it that we are trying to capture a huge market share? I wanted to understand which one it is.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

It is not that we are going to capture a huge market share. By FY2030, the global lithium-ion cell capacity will be 8,000 plus. By that time, we are only targeting 100, which is absolutely nothing in terms of global demand. Actually, for the first time, Himadri is going to be in a product where demand will not be a constraint. Growth will depend upon our ability to expand. This will be a unique positioning for the company.

Sumit Sarda
Founder, Compound Everyday Capital Management

Okay. Got it. How do you place ourselves in terms of cost competitiveness within India or else comparatively to China as well?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

We will be very much cost competitive to any geography in the world.

Sumit Sarda
Founder, Compound Everyday Capital Management

Okay. Just one last question was that how are you planning on your sourcing of raw materials for the lithium-ion substrate? How much? How are you planning on sourcing your raw materials for the cathode?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

We will be sourcing from the global market, including Latin America, Australia, China. Wherever we get the best, we will get the raw materials, sir.

Sumit Sarda
Founder, Compound Everyday Capital Management

Okay. Thank you. That is all from my side. All the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Pratiksha from Investing Alpha. Please go ahead.

Hello. Hello, sir. Am I audible?

Yes, sir, you are. Please go ahead with the question.

Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is, on the post-recent warrant conversion, how does management view equity dilution going forward? Will future growth be primarily debt-funded or accrual-driven?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

The entire growth which is going to come for the next three, four years is from internal accrual. There is going to be no dilution as far as Himadri is concerned. If you look at shareholding also in the last three years, we have increased our stake by 10%. We will not see any dilution coming forward, and there will be no debt which will be taken. It will be internal accrual.

Great. Great. Okay. My second question is, what are the key execution risks during the ramp-up phase at Mahistikry, and how is management ensuring that quality consistency is maintained while scaling volumes?

We have a very strong SOP for the projects and for operations, which ensures that under no circumstances there is any impact or contamination from the ongoing projects. It ensures there is no problem as far as quality or consistency is concerned.

Okay. Got it. One last question. Historically, how long has it taken for Himadri to ramp up specialty capacity to optimal utilization? Should we expect a similar or shorter curve for the new facility as well?

Yes, definitely. To ramp up to the capacity, it will take around three to six months.

Okay. Okay. Got it, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-stone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Ishani Jain from MAS Capital. Please go ahead.

Ishani Jain
Equity Research Analyst, MAS Capital

Hello, sir. My question to you is, with energy being a significant input, what proportion of power is sourced internally or through long-term agreements? How does this influence margins?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

We source 100% of power through our waste heat gas capturing plant where we convert gas into power. Himadri is using clean power for all its operations.

Ishani Jain
Equity Research Analyst, MAS Capital

Okay. Okay, sir. Got it. Also, at what stage does management gain confidence to commit CapEx in energy materials? It means post-customer qualifications or post-binding of tech agreements?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

We do not wait for binding of tech agreement. We have full confidence in our quality and our customer relationship. With the qualification, we start setting up that capacity. Qualification is a process. At the same time, we are setting up the capacity. Unless you have a full-time commercial plant, you will never get approvals.

Ishani Jain
Equity Research Analyst, MAS Capital

Okay, sir. Also, my last question will be, in specialty carbon black, how much of the recent pricing has been formula-linked versus negotiated contracts?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

It depends on customer to customer. I cannot disclose the pricing policy. I can tell you, specialty carbon black has a much better margin than commodity black. Himadri specializes in this segment.

Ishani Jain
Equity Research Analyst, MAS Capital

Okay, sir. Got your point. Thank you.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Virat Sangvi from Asit Koticha Family Office. Please go ahead.

Virat Sanghvi
Equity Research Analyst, Asit Koticha Family Office

Am I audible? Yes, sir. Yes, sir, you are. Yes. We have seen some fall in EBITDA per ton on quarter-on-quarter basis. Is this to do with some change in product mix? We have also expanded the coal tar distillation capacity by 100,000 metric tons. Is that the reason there is some fall in EBITDA per kg?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Virat, if you see, there is hardly even. It was 1,700, 900, it has come to 16,000 something. There has not been much difference. You will find this kind of variation on a positive or negative side on a quarter-on-quarter basis. This does not have any significant importance or significance.

Virat Sanghvi
Equity Research Analyst, Asit Koticha Family Office

Okay. Got it. This coal tar distillation facility that we have expanded by 100,000 metric tons, what is the utilization for that in this quarter?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

No, no. This will just start. Over the next two to three quarters, you will see the ramp-up happening. It will take Q1, FY2027, you will see the ramp-up happening.

Virat Sanghvi
Equity Research Analyst, Asit Koticha Family Office

Okay. What about the specialty black capacity that we were to expand from 60,000 to?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, you will see the ramp-up happening from the next financial year. There will be some ramp-up happening, but you will see the full results coming in the next financial year.

Virat Sanghvi
Equity Research Analyst, Asit Koticha Family Office

Got it. From the Birla Tyres business, what sort of EBITDA margin are we making on the INR 600 million revenues for the quarter?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Currently, in our business, we are selling. We have a partnership with Dalmia Bharat Refractories Limited in Birla Tyres. In Himadri, in Himadri Clean Energy, we are buying from Dalmia Bharat Refractories and selling the Birla Tyres. We do not have any positive or negative impact as such as of now. Looking forward, things will change.

Virat Sanghvi
Equity Research Analyst, Asit Koticha Family Office

Okay. Got it. That is it from my side.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Animesh Jain from Dalal & Broacha. Please go ahead.

Animesh Jain
Equity Research Associate, Dalal & Broacha

Yeah. Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. I just wanted to understand that with the fluctuations that are expected in lithium prices going forward, how do we see that affect our margins? Will we be absorbing those, or will we see that as a pass-through for us?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yeah. Thank you. See, the kind of fluctuation which is there in lithium, it can never be absorbed. So all the customers will be having a pass-through model in which the pricing up and down will be transferred to the customers. Same business model we follow with our existing products also, like for coal tar pitch or carbon black. So same will follow for lithium also.

Animesh Jain
Equity Research Associate, Dalal & Broacha

Okay. So that would be a full pass-through, right?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, yes. A full pass-through.

Animesh Jain
Equity Research Associate, Dalal & Broacha

Okay. My next question would be, on our cathode facility, how would we see a how would we see utilizations going forward for the next one or two years?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Next one or two years, there will not be significant utilization. I see utilization coming in. Some utilization will be there in FY 2028. Yes, big utilization will come in FY 2029. Okay. In 2029, what kind of asset turn can full capacity, if you ask me, FY 2029, I see full capacity utilization.

Animesh Jain
Equity Research Associate, Dalal & Broacha

Okay. What kind of asset turn would we be looking at at full capacity utilization?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Two plus.

All right. All right. Okay. Thank you, sir. That's it.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-stone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Dhruvin Kadakia from SKP Securities. Please go ahead.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

My question was regarding our traditional coal tar pitch business. I just wanted to understand from an industry perspective or from a business perspective, how do you expect them going forward? Is it becoming structurally declining, or do you still see it like a very significant growth driver for your cash flow generation?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

That model has really matured over the last five years. We expect the business to have sustainable profitability because we have done a lot of work in terms of operational efficiencies, waste heat recovery system, improvement of yield. These are giving us long-term sustainable profitability.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

Okay, sir. My last question would be regarding to our recent specialty carbon black expansion that we have done. Just wanted to understand on a year-on-year basis, what is the trend of this capacity utilization? On a year-on-year basis, how do we expect this capacity utilization to increase if you could give a one, two, three-year breakup if possible?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

For the next year, you can look at around 85% capacity utilization for specialty carbon. Okay. Post that, we are on almost 95-100% types.

Dhruvin Kadakia
Senior Equity Research Analyst, SKP Securities

Yes, yes, yes. All right, sir. That will be all. Thank you so much.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Priti Agarwal from SKS Associates. Please go ahead.

Priti Agarwal
Financial Service Consultant, SKS Associates

Yeah. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Also, congratulations on the new Mangalore port. I wanted to know, is this new port going to focus on Middle East itself, or can we expect more geography diversion such as Africa?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

This will be mainly focused on Middle East only because of the proximity to Middle East. For other geographies, we already have Haldia port to cater to that.

Priti Agarwal
Financial Service Consultant, SKS Associates

Understood. The research and development investments remain elevated. How should investors assess returns on this spend? Are there defined KPIs or commercialization timelines that are being targeted?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

R&D has been the core of the company for years now. We are one of the companies in India who spend a lot of money on research and development and innovation. This has only brought us to a place where we are in terms of not only product, process, and technology, but it goes much beyond that. For Himadri, currently also, we are working on many new products. In the next one year to two years, we will see a lot of new announcements for commercialization coming in for high-valuated products. In our case, R&D is not only an academic thing with no KPI.

We have defined our in our R&D, we have defined the performance metrics in a very articulated manner, which means within a given timeframe, you have to achieve a particular result. It cannot be an ever-ending project. That is the biggest strength of the company. All our technologies in Himadri have been developed in-house. That's the beauty of the company. We have not bought any technology from any technology supplier for any of our products. Looking forward also, you will come across a lot of new products coming in the next two to three years.

Priti Agarwal
Financial Service Consultant, SKS Associates

Absolutely. Also, can you give an update on the new tire launch on Birla Tyres segment? Are we diversifying from the passenger car radial? What is your long-term plan for this?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Birla Tyres currently is not into passenger car tires. Birla Tyres basically was into TBB segment, bias segment, and a little bit in agriculture and has some position in mining tires. What we are doing, we are strengthening and expanding our OTR and OHT segment. The idea is that over the next three to five years, we will have significant presence from Birla Tyres in these two segments. That is how we are revamping, modernizing, making automation, getting new machineries, getting the right people, all the resources in place in Birla Tyres. In addition to that, in future, we'll be launching passenger car tires, which will be focused on SUV and EV.

Priti Agarwal
Financial Service Consultant, SKS Associates

Understood. Yeah, that's it from my side. Thank you so much.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-stone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Rohan Baranwal from Arihant Capital. Please go ahead.

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Hello. Sir, as you shared the details on the demand of cathode.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Actually, sorry, my line got disconnected. My line got disconnected. I was not able to listen to your question. Can you please repeat it?

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Sure, sir. My question was on the side of cathode, sir. Clearly, on the demand globally and domestically, what is the demand scenario on the anode side, sir? On the global shared, what is the expectation domestically for anodes and miles?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Your question is on cathode or anode?

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Sir, what is the demand expectation for anode domestically, sir?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Anode, not cathode.

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Yes, sir, anode.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

See, Himadri is positioning itself in a new age industry. For the first time, we are going to be in a business where demand will not be a constraint. See, till now, we have been in an industry where demand has always been the deciding factor for our expansion. That is a limiting factor. When it comes to lithium-ion cell industry, the growth is exponential. In the next three years, there has to be significant growth in terms of cell manufacturing capacity. For the first time in our entire career, we are going to address a market where demand will not be a constraint for either anode or cathode.

Anode consumption will be higher than cathode because LFP, I am talking particularly, in terms of absolute volume, LFP cathode is two times of anode. Anode is used in all the chemistries, unlike cathode. Cathode has different chemistries, right? CLA for electronics, NMC is part of the chemistry. LFP is there. Each chemistry has their own market share. LFP market share is increasing every day. Cathode remains constant throughout this chemistry, whichever chemistry is being used. Anode is constant. Anode demand is very strong in India and globally.

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Okay, sir. My second question was on the coal tires, sir. You have done your first shipment to the Middle East. We can see the demand from the Middle East side to be strong. What is the scenario in the other parts of the world, like the West, sir? As we see, the European region has faced energy cost crisis. Because of that, the peer companies were suppressed. How are you able to benefit from this?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

We are not at all focused on the European market. We have a clean focus on the Middle East market because after China, the Middle East is the single largest manufacturing base for the aluminum industry. Himadri is well positioned to cater to meet their requirement. Our focus is clear. We do not want to go to Europe as far as coal tar pitch is concerned.

Rohan Baranwal
Equity Research Associate, Arihant Capital

Got it, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Disha from Sapphire Capital. Please go ahead.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Hello. Yes, please.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, Disha, please. Yes, you are.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Yeah. Sir, for this battery expansion that we are planning, what sort of EBITDA margin do we see here? And how does that differ from our regular business? See, for looking at Himadri, I will give you a very basic thumb rule. What we look at in our company at board level is that we have what is the return on capital employed?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

If you look at my existing business, the return on capital employed is 34%. Capital allocation is a very, very critical and important metric for us in Himadri. We do not allocate capital to any business where ROCE is less than 30%. That is the main objective. Based on that principle, all our investment is guided.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Okay. All right. For this phase one, I think it's coming by Q3 FY2027, right?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, yes, yes. Do not expect any ramp-up or capacity utilization in the next one and a half years.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Okay. I think from beginning FY2029.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

FY2029, yeah. Yeah. That's what I gave a clear guidance. FY2029 will be the year for LFP.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

How much are we owed to the capex that we're expecting for phase one?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

INR 1,125 crore.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

INR 1,125 crore. Asset turnaround, I think you said more than 2x, right?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

2 plus. 2 plus. 2 plus.

Disha Gandhi
Equity Research Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Okay. Okay. That's it from my side. Thank you.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yashwant Gotipatti from KR Choksey Securities. Please go ahead.

Yashwant Gotipatti
Investment Analyst, KR Choksey Securities

Hello. Am I audible?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Yes, yes, yes. Sir, you are.

Yashwant Gotipatti
Investment Analyst, KR Choksey Securities

Yeah. Good evening, sir. My question is regarding anode materials. If you can give us the numbers for the CapEx that we are going to undergo for this anode material development, what is the capacity, and what is the premium which we'll be charging for products such as performance-driven anode materials?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

If you can throw some light over that whole anode project. I was not able to listen to your question. My line got disconnected. Can you please repeat it?

Yashwant Gotipatti
Investment Analyst, KR Choksey Securities

Okay. My question was regarding the anode materials project. If you can give us some numbers regarding the CapEx for that anode material development, the capacity which would come live, as well as the premium which we would be charging, a rough estimate for anode materials over the normal synthetic composite graphite.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

See, first of all, we have not announced any CapEx as of today on anode material. We are in the process of finalization. Once we finalize, we will come up with the capacity number and the CapEx numbers.

Yashwant Gotipatti
Investment Analyst, KR Choksey Securities

Okay. Okay. Understood. Roughly, sir, I mean, the premiumization, how much percentage would be a ballpark number for carbon silicon composites which we would be catering to performance-driven applications over the cost-driven applications?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

There is no point discussing the premium, as I told you, because knowing the premium, you'll not be able to calculate anything unless you know the cost, you know the capacity, and all these things. You can Google it, and you will get the selling price of silicon carbon compared to synthetic carbon anode material.

Yashwant Gotipatti
Investment Analyst, KR Choksey Securities

Okay. Okay. Understood, sir. That will be all from my side. Thank you.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Devanshi Shah from HUF Capital. Please go ahead.

Devanshi Shah
Equity Research Analyst, HUF Capital

Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. I wanted to understand how does Himadri's cost structure and technology roadmap compare with established Chinese players in LFP and anodes, and where does the management see its competitive moat?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

See, in China, if you look at LFP chemistry, it has really evolved over the last five years. The work has been going on over the last 15, 18 years. The ramp-up of volume has taken really place in the last four years. The advantage of Himadri is that we have been in this industry for the last 17 to 18 years. If you go back and look at our annual reports, we have been talking about lithium-ion batteries from the day when no one was even knowing about lithium-ion batteries.

Not much people were knowing. That time, we had a vision that lithium-ion battery is something which is going to be a game changer for the future. There were many chemistries. The best thing is there still are many chemistries. At that point of time, 18 years back, to point out that, yes, this chemistry is going to be a game changer is a big thing. Today, everyone can say.

Eighteen years back, to tell this thing was a big thing. That is what we did. I have been personally engaged and very closely monitoring the development of raw material components of this industry over the last many, many years. I have a very strong relationship and a very strong team which is working on it. We are absolutely confident. We'll be very strong in terms of our quality of the product, specific cases to meet the requirement of the customers, and very much competitive. Plus, we have the India advantage compared to our peers in the other geography.

Devanshi Shah
Equity Research Analyst, HUF Capital

Right, sir. Got it. That was helpful. Also, could you share insights on demand trends across key export geographies such as Europe, U.S., Asia, particularly in the context of global industrial slowdown and inventory normalization?

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

See, by the time our product comes, all the inventory normalization, in fact, in LFP has already happened. If you see the correction of lithium-ion prices has corrected by 75% over the last two and a half years, two and a half, three years, by 75%. All inventory wri te-off correction, all those things have already happened. There is nothing left to be corrected. Now there will be fair competition, which is going to be there. Global demand is the global capacity of lithium-ion battery cells is going to be around 7,500-8,000 gigawatt-hours from current 2,500. This gives a huge possibility for huge ramping up of capacity and huge demand for cathode and anode material. The company will be producing the best in quality, meeting all the global standards, will outshine others.

That is coming out very clear because the single factor for meeting the requirement of this huge growth which is coming will be the raw material component. Everyone is selling capacity, but raw material is limited. That will be a single critical factor, which will be the game changer. Himadri has, through what makes Himadri different in terms of lithium-ion capacity, also capabilities. If you look at our R&D setup, we have joined hands with Sicona having facility in Australia. Our team is working hand in hand with the Sicona team for new developments. We have taken a stake in International Battery Company headquartered in California, having a state-of-the-art AI-based research and development center in California, and a manufacturing facility in South Korea for cell manufacturing. They are working on Himadri components for making cells.

They have already launched Gen 1,000 prismatic-shaped cells using NMC and anode material. Now they are going to launch W 2,000, which is using Himadri anode material and Himadri Lithium Iron Phosphate. This gives Himadri a unique positioning compared to any of the peers globally where we do not have only the laboratory capabilities. We have the full-fledged cell manufacturing facility available in South Korea where you can practically see the cell being manufactured. It is no longer a laboratory-type thing we are talking. In addition to that, W 3,000 will be launched, which will be using silicon carbon made by Himadri. This gives Himadri a unique positioning. The first mover's advantage in this industry, being in this industry for so many years, it is not that today everyone is talking about lithium-ion batteries. We have started lithium-ion batteries.

Devanshi Shah
Equity Research Analyst, HUF Capital

Got it, sir. Understood. Thank you very much and all the best.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I would like to hand the conference over to Mr. Anurag Choudhary for closing comments. Thank you. And over to you, sir.

Anurag Choudhary
CMD and CEO, Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited

Thank you, sir. Thank you, everyone, for joining the Q3 FY2026 nine-month conference call of Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited. We appreciate your time, continued interest, and engagement, and hope we have addressed your queries satisfactorily. At Himadri, our focus remains firmly on creating sustainable long-term value for all our stakeholders. We are deeply committed to our transformational journey driven by high-quality products, disciplined execution, and an unwavering emphasis on innovation, environmental responsibility, and health and safety.

We are confident that the strategic direction outlined today will continue to support resilient growth and deliver enduring value. Before we conclude, I would like to once again thank our team members, partners, investors for their trust and continued support. Should you require any further information, please feel free to reach out to our investor relationship advisor, M/s SGA and Link Intime (Uncertain). Thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Himadri Speciality Chemical Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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