Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Manorama Industries Limited Q1 FY2027 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in listen only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Hiral Keniya from EY LLP. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you, Huda. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of Manorama Industries Limited, I welcome you all to the company's Q1 FY2027 conference call. To discuss the performance of the company and to answer your questions, we have with us the management team comprising of Mr. Ashish Saraf, Chairman and Managing Director, Mr. Ashok Jain, Director and CFO, Mr. Pankaj Rathi, DGM, Accounts and Finance, Ms. Ekta Soni, AVP, Investor Relations, and Mr. Deepak Sharma, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer. Before we proceed this call, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks, uncertainties, and other factors which will be beyond management's control.
We kindly request to bear in mind that there might be uncertainties while interpreting such statements. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
We would now like to start the session with opening remarks from the management team. Afterwards, we will open the floor for an interactive Q&A session. I would now hand over the conference call to Ashish ji for his opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you, Hiral ji. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining Manorama Industries Limited's Quarter 1 Financial Year 2027 earnings conference call. We appreciate the continued trust and encouragement of our investors, analysts, stakeholders. As we continue to strengthen our market position and expand our global presence, we remain focused on executing our long-term strategy, driving innovation and delivering consistent, sustainable value creation for all our stakeholders. We have entered Financial Year 27 with strong conviction and momentum, delivering a 39.5% year-on-year revenue growth in quarter one.
Financial Year 2027 and crossing the INR 4,000 million quarterly revenue and EBITDA milestone for the first time. Our profitability grew by 67.6% year-on-year, reflecting sustained demand across key end-use industries, deeper customer relationships, and the increasing contribution of our value-added specialty fats and butters portfolio.
These results underscore the strength of our integrated business model, robust sourcing network, and our ability to capitalize on the expanding opportunities in the global specialty fats market. During the quarter, we achieved several strategic milestones that further strengthen our long-term growth platform. We expanded our sourcing footprint in West Africa through the incorporation of Manorama Savannah Agro Chad SARL in Chad, our wholly owned subsidiary in Chad. In addition, we acquired approximately 10 hectares, 24 acres of land in Burkina Faso for a shea nut and mango nut processing facility with regulatory approvals currently in the progress.
These initiatives enhance sourcing security, traceability, supply chain resilience, and proximity to key customers while reinforcing our leadership across the shea value chain. Innovation remains at the core of our growth strategy.
Our Milcoa Innovation & Research Center, recognized by the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, DSIR, Government of India, continues to drive product innovation and strengthen our competitive advantage. Beyond product development, our R&D capabilities are playing a pivotal role in shaping our integration strategy as we advance both backward and forward integration initiatives. The upcoming seed processing and extraction facilities in Raipur and Burkina Faso, together with our exploration of downstream value-added opportunities, are expected to enhance value capture, improve margins, and drive sustainable growth across the value chain.
The successful completion of our qualified institutional placement, QIP, marks another important milestone, strengthening our balance sheet and providing the financial flexibility to accelerate growth across manufacturing sourcing and high value-added segments. These investments align with our vision of building a globally integrated specialty ingredients platform with scalable and resilient supply chains.
Looking ahead, we remain highly confident in the long-term prospects of our business. With an expanding portfolio of specialty ingredients, growing customer partnerships, and increasing presence in cocoa butter alternatives and continued investments across sourcing, processing, innovation, and manufacturing, we are well-positioned to deliver profitable growth and strengthen our global market presence. Business is business has risk, but Manorama navigates and has built a robust model, and we are looking forward to build it further. We look forward to create a sustainable long-term value for all our stakeholders. With that, I will now hand over the call to our CFO and Director, Mr. Ashok Jain, to take you through the financial and operational highlights for the quarter. Thank you.
Thank you, Ashish sir, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me now take you through our financial performance for the quarter one, FY2027. We delivered a strong quarter with revenue increased by 39.5% year-on-year to INR 404 crore, driven by a richer product mix of value-added offerings and higher utilization of our expanded fractionation capacity. Our export to domestic revenue mix stood at 60:40, reflecting the continued strength of our global customer base alongside healthy domestic demand. EBITDA grew by 42.2% year-on-year to INR 106 crore, while EBITDA margin expanded by 49 basis points to 26.3%, supported by disciplined cost management, operational efficiencies and operating leverage.
Profit after tax increased by 67.6% year-on-year, that is INR 79 crore, with profit after tax margin expanding by 326 basis points to 19.5%. This strong improvement in profitability reflects our continued focus on optimizing product mix, enhancing capacity utilization, and driving efficiencies across operations.
These results demonstrate the resilience and scalability of our business model, highlighting our ability to deliver robust growth and profitability while executing strategic expansion initiatives and managing the seasonal dynamics of our industry. We remain disciplined in our approach to capital allocation, where ongoing strategic investments across India and Africa are carefully aligned with our long-term vision of building a globally integrated specialty fats platform. These investments will strengthen our sourcing and manufacturing capabilities, expand our global footprint, and further reinforce our leadership position in the rapidly growing cocoa butter equivalent and specialty fat butter market.
Through these initiatives, we are creating a stronger foundation for sustainable growth, enhanced competitiveness, and long-term value creation for our stakeholders. That concludes my remarks. We would now begin with question and answer session.
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Kumar Saumya from Ambit Capital. Please proceed.
Hi, sir. Good afternoon. Firstly, the very commendable performance in a volatile macro environment. Sir, couple of questions I have. Firstly, on the incremental capacity of 4,500 ton, which is expected to come from the debottlenecking activity, when should we expect that to come online?
Yeah. Thank you, Kumar, for the question. As we have previously communicated, we have undertaken the debottlenecking to enhance fractionation capacity. We already have done a portion of our additional capacity of 7,500, which already has been operationalized, and the balance is intending to be implemented in a manner during FY2027, around quarter three of this financial year, subject to operational timelines.
Okay. The incremental greenfield, when is that expected to hit in the next financial year?
This is regarding our new CapEx program?
Yes.
We have made meaningful progress as we move on for our CapEx. On the solvent fractionation three, and our refinery are being targeted for commissioning around FY 2027, 2028, around Q3 of that financial year. We already have bought a land in Burkina Faso, which is around 10 hectares, approximately 24 acres bought. There are regulatory approvals which are awaiting. We are doing meaningful progress in terms of our CapEx also.
Next comes the downstream opportunities that Ashish sir mentioned in the opening remarks. If you could throw some light on what are the downstream opportunities we are exploring currently.
Sorry. Can you repeat your question, please?
Ashish sir, in the initial remarks, mentioned about the downstream opportunities in the product value chain that you are currently exploring. If you could just throw some light, what are those?
Yes, the expansion which we are currently doing, one of our expansion also involves CBA, cocoa butter alternative product, which will allow us to make a specialty value-added product from our existing raw materials. We are also using an interesterified process, from where we can make a value-added product based on our co-product or by-product like olein and other specialty fats and butters. So we are around the clock. Our R&D team are working on those lines, making more and more value-added product from our existing product portfolio. We are setting up a technology also. It is our CBA plant, which will help us to bring more and more value addition in our product lines.
Got it. Next on this export sharing the revenue. What was it in the last year, same quarter, FY 2025?
55%-60% export.
The range we can share with you was around 55%-60% only, and it is approximately in the range only of 50%-60% of export revenue.
Okay. Lastly, on the last item to address. What is the development over here, and when are we expected to see the ramp-up in the coming quarters? Any color over there?
Kumar, we have started the pilot production in the last quarter. We have sent some samples there because that is the new facility we are doing. That production has to go from our current facility, which is in India. We are also planning to move that scale gradually. As we move quarter to quarter, we can see a good amount of production going there further to manufacture from there. That will ramp up gradually over the quarters.
Okay. Lastly, some indication on the pricing environment. How are you seeing the current pricing environment? Because most of the products are seeing a lot of volatility. How is your product value chain behaving and any color on that front?
Kumar, our products are more value-added product, which is formulated and based on certain specifications and recipes of the confectionery, chocolate, or cosmetics. Our pricing model, if you say, has remained stable largely, which is in line of our costing model as well. As per the macroeconomics are concerned, compared to that, our pricing has been largely stable.
Got it. Thank you. That will be all. I join back the queue.
Thank you.
Thanks. Thank you. The next question is from the linen of Disha Chambia from Trinetra Asset Managers. Please proceed.
Good afternoon, sir. Am I audible?
Yes.
Great set of numbers, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. A few questions I had from my side was realization per ton of CBA and stearin. If you could give me that breakup. Is that available?
We generally don't share that kind of a per ton realization because our products are not one SKUs. There are different products with different formulations, specifications for different customers. But we can share with you directionally that our pricing has been largely stable for our value-added products.
No problem, ma'am. And of this 71.4% of contribution of CBA and stearin, what is the breakup of CBA in it?
71% of contribution and balance is the stearin product. Both are technically the same.
Could you please repeat how much was CBA?
Sorry. CBA was 30%. 3, 0, 30.
Got it, ma'am. Got it. Could you please help me understand of this new subsidiary that has been established in Chad, and what exactly will it contribute to the company? Will it be a margin expansion from it, or is this helping from the backward integration? Could you just maybe comment?
Because our international subsidiaries, which are in Africa, including the recently incorporated in Chad, is mostly the vehicle from where we are sourcing our raw materials and butters from Africa region. Chad is basically for increasing the value chain from there. It's one of vehicle through which we are going to source our shea nut and butter from there.
As there is no response, I'm taking the next question from the line of Rishabh from Demeter Advisors. Please proceed.
Hi. My first query is around your contract. Roughly, could you give us an idea of when you will be renewing some of your contracts? You'll have a 9 to 12 month time frame. I just want to understand when the renewal, I mean, what percentage are coming up for renewal in this year or in the coming quarter or so?
See, basically our contracts are 9 to 12 months, which is not specific to a certain quarter or certain month. It is an ongoing process. As and when the contract expire, it gets renewed. Some contracts could be for quarter 1, some contract could be for quarter two, three or four. It's generally an ongoing process with the customers, so we cannot quantify that this much of contract will be renewed in this particular quarter. It is an ongoing process for us.
Got it. Secondly, what were the volumes in MTPA of your value-added products, that is, general CBEs and stearin, this quarter?
The utilized volume specific for our value-added products, we don't check on a quarter basis. We could guide you on an annual basis what we have been doing with the past four quarters. But what we can share with you, that we have done an utilization of around 80% on our capacity for this quarter.
Any guidance on the full year number for utilization of your fractionation capacity?
We will be also doing the debottlenecking of our second plant, which will be around Q3. We expect our to be around 80%-85% for full year for this year.
Understood. Then I had a question just around your Burkina Faso plant, given that it will reduce your freight cost, what is the quantified impact this will have, say, on your gross profit?
So, of course, it should help it because the investments what we have envisaged, is particularly for Burkina Faso plant. We see a payback period which should be around three years, once the plant is operational in Burkina Faso. So it should meaningfully impact on our bottom line as well, and it should improve our efficiency also. This is what we can guide you for that.
You're saying a three-year payback on the roughly INR 120 crore CapEx. Is that the fair way to describe it?
Yes.
Understood. I just want to understand that places like Nigeria, they had introduced an export ban on shea nuts. Could you help sort of describe these risks and how you all will mitigate some of that kind of a risk?
Nigeria is one of the 22 such countries in Africa where the shea nuts are grown and available. As you have seen, we are having multiple presence in Africa regions. We are operating our own wholly owned subsidiaries in 10 different regions in Africa, and we are also going to set up our own facility in Burkina Faso. We are also bringing raw seeds from there, and going forward we will also import the butter form from there. We also import butters from those regions. That is one country which has put a temporary ban, so that doesn't materially impact our sourcing strategy from there because our presence in that geography area is vast, which is substantial in Africa region.
Understood. Last question, if I may. Could you describe your CBA product? I mean, just some more color on what it is that you all are planning to launch, which is different from the current CBE and stearin.
We import lot of butters also from African regions. That CBA is a product technology. What we can say is, an alternative on cocoa butters. Through a technology here in from India, from an ESOS plant, we will convert some of the oil liquid fractions into a hard fraction using some enzymes toward it, so that would convert our liquid fraction into solid fractions. That will help convert into a cocoa butter alternative segment, which will be called ECB, enzymatic cocoa butter equivalent. The applications of cocoa butter alternative within that, which is ECB, will be Of course, the application are same into the food segment part, into the chocolate, in confectioneries, into the HORECA market, wherever there is a food application. It is one technology.
We are doing an addition, which we can say is a forward integration model, which will help us use our existing raw material also, and we could use other raw material also, apart from the nuts currently, which we import or buy locally from domestic markets.
Understood. Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Roshan Nair from Antique Stock Broking. Please proceed.
Yeah, thanks a lot for the opportunity and congratulations on good set of numbers. My question is regarding the Brazil partnership where you have started your first commercial production batch. So how much time would it take for the commercial production to fully ramp up? And how meaningful can Brazil become over next two to three years in terms of revenue and profitability?
We already have started our trial production in the last quarter of this year, and we are slowly dispatching our production to that Brazilian entity to process. So it will, of course, take some time because a lot of production has to go from an Indian plant as well. So we see a good demand scenario, which is there for those products in that region as well. So slowly it will pick up maybe in another two, three, four quarters, we can see it should gradually ramp up quarter on quarter basis from there.
What would be the max revenue that you can generate from the Brazil unit?
We can guide you on specific contribution from Brazil once we have started the operation meaningfully from there. Currently, we are doing the trial production, but we can directionally guide you that we see a very good opportunity in that market through that unit.
Understood. My next question is, as employee cost has come down by around 20% versus last quarter. In last quarter, I recollect you had some initial setup costs for subsidies that resulted in higher employee and other expenses. Is it fair to assume that this will be the run rate going forward or is there anything else that we should be looking at?
Right. Last quarter, there was some provision which was there, which related to performance incentive as well. That was largely the reason of that employee cost going forward. But currently, the run rate which we can take should be around INR 14 crore-INR 15 crore per quarter going forward. It should be generally in this line only.
Understood. One last question from my side. Other expenses have kind of jumped up by 16%. Anything you want to call out specifically here? Is it primarily due to higher freight and container cost?
Yeah, that is right. It is primarily because of that only.
Understood. Thank you. Thanks a lot for the opportunity.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Sandeep Abhange from LKP Securities. Please proceed.
Hi. Congratulations on the set of numbers. Thanks for taking my question. I had a question regarding the gross margin. Gross margins have gone down this quarter. Firstly, what was the reason behind it, and how was the sourcing of shea nuts and butter for FY 2027? Is it totally done, or it will be done by the H1 FY 2027 quarter? How is the pricing scenario in your raw material sourcing?
Largely, the shea nuts procurement largely has been done in the last quarter. If you see currently, we have done the procurement for our Indian domestic seeds, which is sal, mango and other exotic seeds. We buy shea nuts and butters from different countries of Africa region. We buy sal and mango from different parts of India as well. From pricing point of view, it is broadly same. Of course, whatever inflation rise is there, we have to take on the raw material cost, and that's how we build our costing model and come to our finished goods prices accordingly. Our gross margin broadly moves in the range of that range only of around 45%-50%, what we can say, because lot of time it depends on freight cost timing also and our by-product realization, which is a de-oiled cake.
It will be best tracked together with EBITDA margin rather than in isolation of gross profit margin.
Okay. On the raw material cost as percentage to sales is considered, for H1 generally it is higher, somewhere around 75%-80%, and for H2 it is comparatively lower. On an overall basis, FY 2027, what kind of cost of raw materials we can expect for this year, percentage specific?
It has always been around 50% only. We are not able to see that it was around 75%, 80% in first half. But as per us, it has always been around 50% to our thing, approximately.
Okay. That's all from my side. Thanks for taking the question.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Madhu Agarwal from Agarwal Family Office. Please proceed.
Hi. Of the 39% growth we've seen this quarter, would you be able to break that down into how much was volume growth, how much was due to Forex, and then how much was ultimately realization?
See, 39% growth is a year-over-year growth, which is there comparatively same quarter of last year compared to this, and it is largely volume led. We can say 85% growth, if you compare year-over-year, has been approximately from the volume growth.
Okay, lovely. My next question is on the existing capacity. Could you please clarify what is the incremental capacity we are expecting from the debottlenecking at the second plant?
Approximately we are expecting additional 4,500 tons of debottlenecking in this financial year, additionally. Our current capacity of 47,500 will be going approximately to around 52,000 tons per annum.
Understood. Copy. In terms of the margins that we have seen this quarter, would you say they are sustainable or was this an exceptionally good quarter?
Sorry, can you repeat your question, please?
For the margins that we've seen in Q1, would you say they are sustainable? And would you guide for similar margins going forward, or was this an exceptionally good quarter?
See, margins can see modest quarter-to-quarter movement depending on mix and one-off items, but the underlying range is expected to hold broadly stable. At the same time, business is business. Business has risk also. But we say it should hold the current range in broad terms.
Understood. Okay, that's all from me. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Akhil from 360 ONE. Please proceed.
Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity and many congratulations on the good set of numbers. My first question is on the subsidiary part. If I look at consol minus standalone, the revenues are close to zero and our PAT margins have declined from INR 8 crore, INR 3 crore this quarter, basically. While subsidiary revenue is probably around INR 8 crore and the losses were INR 8 crore. If you can help tie up these two things, basically.
So maybe consolidated turnover, if you talk about, I guess there is a difference of around INR 4 lakh to INR 5 lakh, which has been reported in the numbers compared to standalone and consolidated for this quarter.
No, Ekta, my question is, so this quarter, revenue is probably just INR 4 lakh or INR 5 lakh while the losses have reduced dramatically from INR 8 crore in Q4 of 2026 to INR 3 crore.
Yeah.
Why that has been the case?
Last time, as we have explained, there was one-time cost, which has incurred in some of our subsidiaries. As we have explained earlier also, last time in the call because of that, and this time we see this cost what have appeared is on a normal operational cost basis, which is there for our different subsidiaries.
Is it fair to assume-
Yeah.
Sorry. Is it fair to assume that the losses will now reduce as we move forward, basically from subsidiaries?
The costs are working, subsidiaries are at different stages of maturity, and West African entities are mostly for cost procurement vehicles with no standalone revenue. Consolidation carries some operating costs without corresponding top line. Brazil also is in a build-out phase as we establish commercial volumes. These are deliberate funded investments in the long-term capability. We see as these entities scale directionally, their drag on consolidated margin should reduce, and over time, turn into a contributor.
I think two more questions. One on other income part. It has gone up significantly. Is it to do with the QIP money, and how should one look at it for a-
Akhil sir, sorry to interrupt, but can you please stay in the quiet room? There is a lot of disturbance from your side.
Sure. Is it better?
Yeah, continue.
Yeah. My second question was on the other income part. We did around INR 16 odd crore for this quarter. How should one look at it on a full year basis? The third question is, if you can give a ballpark CapEx guidance for this year and next year.
Ballpark CapEx guidance for this year should be around INR 225 crore to INR 250 odd crore of investment approximately in Financial Year 2027. Likewise, the other income is largely because of freight and other-
FDR interest. Other income.
Other income is largely for.
FDR income.
FDR income and Forex gains. It is nothing related to the QIP amount as you mentioned for that.
Okay.
Because that amount we have received in this quarter.
Okay. It should get normalized probably then.
Yes.
Okay, great. That is all from my side, and best luck for further quarters.
Thank you so much.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Nishita from Sapphire Capital. Please proceed.
Yes. Am I audible?
Yes.
Yes.
I just wanted to understand, the CapEx that you just mentioned of around INR 225 crores to INR 250 crores, what are we going to use that for? Like for debottlenecking, how much CapEx are we going to use, and what is the rest of the amount? Where are we going to use that?
This INR 225 crores, INR 250 crores approximately amount will be used for our new CapEx proposed, which is there, where we are expanding our solvent fractionation capacities, refinery capacity, and the backward integration project in Burkina Faso. That debottlenecking capacity is hardly a cost of around INR 5 crore to INR 6 crore, which will be there to debottleneck. Apart from that, all that money is going to invest our new proposed CapEx plan.
Right. Okay. From what I understand is, this solvent fractionation and refinery capacity, this is coming in our Indian facility, right? Hello?
Yeah, it is coming in India. Refinery and solvent fractionation.
Okay.
Extraction and expelling capacity in Burkina Faso, Africa.
Okay. If you could bifurcate the CapEx there, how much are we going to use for the Burkina Faso facility and then the Indian facility?
That Burkina Faso facility will be around INR 120-30 crore approximately, and the balance should be for Indian projects out of INR 460 crore of our proposed CapEx plan.
And this will be operational by Q3 FY 2028, right?
Tentatively, yes.
Both the facilities?
Yeah, our CapEx program, yes.
Okay. My next question is on if you can give the revenue bifurcation from shea butter and then the sal mango seeds, if there is a revenue bifurcation.
Our revenue contribution from each of the raw material is significant. If you want a bifurcation, it will be around 50-60 from imported seeds and the 50 around is from domestic seeds and butters. We import butters also and seeds also from different parts of the world, and we source some seeds and all also from domestic. The bifurcation will be around 50%, largely insane.
Right. My last question is, are we on track to achieve our guidance for this year? You had earlier provided a guidance of around INR 1,600 crore to INR 1,800 crore.
Sorry, when we have provided this guidance?
In one of the conferences, the Ashika conference. That was way back in November. I just wanted to check if we are still on track for that.
No, because, see, we have given our guidance on the utilization for our facilities. In terms of numbers, you can extract the numbers or model it as per your calculation. What guidance we are giving on the utilization pages, which we should be around 80% of utilization on 52,000 tons of plant capacity for this year.
Okay, understood. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Uttkkarsh Chanana from SMC Private Wealth. Please proceed.
Hello, am I audible?
Yes.
Yes, you are audible.
Hi. I just wanted to ask about the recent development which you had posted a day before yesterday. In context of that, has the supplier accepted the liability or is he willing to pay the amount which you have created a debit note for? Can you also confirm whether the company will be sourcing from the same supplier, or are we diversifying the supplier base?
We already have a very diversified suppliers for this material. We import from a couple of countries with different suppliers. That is one supplier from that region. And we are not currently based particularly on that particular supplier.
Manufacturer.
Manufacturer and supplier.
At the recovery, how much amount can we, or how much percentage are we confident that we will be able to recover the amount from the supplier?
Of course. As you have seen in the exchange notification also, we are in the process. We already have raised a debit note, and we are claiming the full amount from the manufacturer and the supplier of that product. And we are in the process. And with a certain time, we are confident when we should fully see what we can do in terms of our recovery from that manufacturer and supplier, and we will update you from time to time what has been the progress as per our SEBI regulation. Thanks.
Thank you so much. Secondly, are we dependent on any particular shipping route for our import or exports of raw material or finished goods? As we can see, there is a lot of geopolitical disruptions. If we are dependent on a particular route, how are we going to mitigate the impact?
See, we are dealing with multiple geographies. If you see, we are supplying to more than 30 countries in the world, and there are different routes for different countries. We import a lot of materials from Africa, Malaysia, Indonesia and a couple of other countries as well. That's why if you see our diversification is very much high in terms of our exports also and in terms of our sourcing also for our raw materials. So it should not that way materially impact our sourcing strategies for any of our raw material base.
All right. Thank you so much. All the best.
Thank you.
Thank you. A request to all participants: please restrict your questions to two questions per participant. For more questions, please rejoin the queue. The next question is from the line of Divyansh Thakur from Finterest Capital . Please proceed. Mr. Thakur, are you there?
Yeah, I am audible.
Yeah.
Yeah. First of all, sir, congratulations on a great set of numbers. I can see in the presentation that we had uploaded on the exchanges yesterday that you have said around 85%-90% utilization of the expanded capacity, like I did the 4,500 debottlenecking and the 47,500 already there. Now we are saying that it is going to be around 80%, if you can just verify on that.
Currently, executing target for the company is that, but for our stakeholders, we can take 80% and whatever improvement is there will be shown and will be shared to our stakeholders.
Okay, sir. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Are we confident of having the same quarterly growth or year-on-year growth, if I put it? How is the external environment shaping up? There are many geopolitical tensions, also the ban on the export. Do we see that a whole Africa or it is just a specific country?
To just repeat what we have been saying, that this bans, of course, we are talking now for a couple of quarters now. We are seeing this macroeconomic geopolitical tension going around for couple of quarters now in the past. But the company, of course, we are a part of the industry, we are part of this full fraternity. We cannot say that it will not impact us directly. But of course, there is an indirect impact, which is there in terms of freight, logistic, or could be other macroeconomic impact could be there. But as a company, we always navigate it and balance it out on what possible ways we could do in terms of our sourcing, exports, managing our productions, and keeping our checks and internal things in line, which should help us in meeting our goals and targets.
Okay, ma'am. Also on the last question is that if I heard it right, you mentioned that the new CapEx of INR 460 crore is going to be coming live in the quarter three of the next fiscal year. That is FY2028. Can I connect it directly that it will start contributing to our top line from Q3?
Of course, that is being expected tentatively to commission around that quarter. So it should start contributing gradually from that period. But that full impact will be more visible in the FY2029 as we ramp up, because all these are technical plants and utilization takes place gradually. So you can see that it is most visible in the year of FY2029.
Okay. Thank you so much for answering my question. And ma'am, all the best for the future initiatives. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Deepali Bansal from Ventura Enterprises. Please proceed.
Hello, good afternoon, everyone. Ma'am, my first question is regarding how much CapEx have we already got out of the INR 225-250 that we have planned.
If we talk about just for this quarter, we have spent around INR 20 odd crores through Manorama and our subsidiaries, and till today, we have spent around INR 70 crore out of our total proposed CapEx plan, and we intend to spend approximately around INR 220 odd crore more in this financial year for our CapEx.
Correct. Would you be able to give us how much money you spent to purchase the 24-acre plot for the backward integration plant?
We would not like to specific maybe on part to part. We already have communicated that we are going to spend around INR 120 odd crore toward Manorama Savannah Agro Chad SARL project, but we would, as a company, not be comfortable to share all the finances for each of our investments. Thank you.
Do we have any numbers regarding the Dekel Agri-Vision? We don't have any numbers, like what revenue-
For?
For margins.
For Dekel? As of now, we have not started. Currently, we don't have any specific numbers to share with you, particularly revenue from the Dekel environment. But one thing we need to understand that Dekel, there is a processing facility. The production is going to be going from the Indian plant only. So that revenue will be more visible from the Indian plant, and that Dekel facility is a processing facility just for material going to Manorama Industries Limited, India.
All right, ma'am. Thank you so much for my answer.
Thank you. The next question is on the line of Akshay from HSF.
Thanks for the opening and first of all congratulations on the great set of numbers. Ma'am, my question was around the CapEx. As you already highlighted that INR 60 crore CapEx will be spent till quarter three of FY2028, and then contribution will start gradually. Right? So my question is, currently our asset turn is around 7x, so can we expect the same 7x asset turn going forward in FY2029, FY2030 when this new facility will be fully ramped up?
See, we always have intended to reach on a higher asset turn thing. To guide you that it will be 7x, 8x, 9x currently today, will be not feasible for us. What we can say is, historically what has been there in terms of our CapEx investment, the company will be aiming to perform on that direction only going forward. We are very much positive that our new investments in terms of our proposed CapEx plan should give us a good, steady, healthy growth for our near-term vision for three to five years. So FY2030, FY2031, we should be there.
Okay, ma'am. My second question is around full year top-line expectations. Do we have any internal expectations number, but in the percentage terms, do we have any range for the growth? Also the EBITDA margins, can we expect the same EBITDA margin going forward in the next three quarters for FY2027?
Sir, directionally, what we can guide you as of today that, yes, we have started financial year 2027 on a very healthy note, as you have seen in the performance, what we have published yesterday. With the Q1 performance providing a good base, establishing a good run rate for the year. We also see further scope of improvement as the year progresses. There are supported by capacity ramp-up, the debottlenecking is to be done, and a good utilization is to be done from our plant. Also we are very confident on delivering healthy top-line growth in FY2027 as well.
Okay, ma'am. Lastly, you have said that 4,500 MTPA that we are debottlenecking, so 85% utilization is on the right?
Yes. That you can say at 80%-85%, the management internal target is around that execution level. But as a stakeholder, you should take around 80% of utilization. Any improvement which is there around 85% or 90% will be shown and communicated to our shareholders accordingly.
Okay, ma'am. Okay. Thank you so much, and all the best.
Thanks.
Thank you. A request to all participants, please restrict your question to one question per participant. For more questions, please rejoin the queue. The next question is from the line of Abhinav from AJ Capital. Please proceed.
Hi, good afternoon. Hope I'm audible.
Yes, sir.
I am just following up on the question of maintaining the asset turn that you have been able to achieve in FY2026. As this CapEx of INR 460 crore comes on board by FY2028 or the first half of FY2029, apart from the revenue, my second question was on the working capital. If I look at the past history of Manorama, if this INR 460 crore of CapEx produces a 7x asset turn, it will also require close to about INR 900 crores to INR 1,000 crore of working capital as per my calculations. Can you help us guide or understand how do you see additional working capital that you will be requiring over the next two years, and any plan on fundraise or how do you manage it? Some guidance or some hint around that.
Yes, there is a requirement of around 50% in terms of raw material for our business and the kind of asset turn which you have mentioned and what we have done over the past. For that, we are very much lined up with our existing bankers. Recently also, if you see, we have successfully completed our fundraising QIP, which was around INR 500 crore. All the money what we have, we also have a INR 150 odd crore FDR, in form of FDR, in company with us, excluding the QIP component. Apart from that, we have sanctioned bank limits with us, where State Bank of India is our lead banker. We are very much aligned with our near-term vision for this CapEx plan as well in terms of working capital requirement.
Sorry. You are saying any additional working capital over the next two years will be met by debt and not necessarily by equity dilution. Is that a fair understanding?
We already have done the equity dilution in the last quarter, right?
Yes.
We have raised INR 500 crore for that.
Yes.
So of course, we don't need that equity dilution again in a quarter or two for that. So that is not there in the plan, of course not.
Okay. All right. Thank you and all the best and great set of numbers. Keep delivering what you've been delivering over the past five years. So congratulations.
Thank you so much for that.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rohan Mehta from Ficom Family Office. Please proceed.
Hi, am I audible?
Yes.
Perfectly. Thank you so much for the opportunity. So on the other income of about INR 16 odd crore, could you break that down, how much of it was from forex gain? And on your hedging policy, as per last quarter, about 60% is currently hedged. So I am just trying to understand the rationale of why not move towards fully hedged position instead.
The historical business policy, we always have been hedging 50%-60% of the net exposure what we have, because already we do a lot of import and export. We are a natural hedge company as well. Whatever net exposures are left, as a policy, historically, we have been hedging 50%-60%, and that has been in line what the management requirement is. Out of INR 16 crore of other income gain, INR 13 crore gain was from forex part, and the rest, INR 3 crore, was in the form of other income, part of FDR.
Okay. On your de-bottlenecking, I just want to understand-
Sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Mehta, but can you please rejoin the queue? Thank you. The next question is from the line of Omkar from Shree Investment. Please proceed.
My question is on the margin trajectory. With the additional capacities coming on, I mean, the new CapEx I am talking about, and the size getting bigger, how do you see operating leverage kicking in the next two to three years for the company? Also the improvement in the sourcing front. That is it.
See, to guide you what will be there in the two, three years today will be very difficult for us. But directionally, what we can say, we are in a good shape, and operating leverage should come into the picture. We are going to expand our capacities further. We are improving on our product mix as well. Historically, if you see the company has performed over the last three, four years, it has been 20, 25 consistent quarters where the company have given a good performance, in terms of their top line, or be it on a margin front. We have always guided our shareholders that business is business, and business has always risk.
We are always working round the clock to optimize the full efficiency of our production, the value-added mix and everything, and we remain confident on performing a good set of production going forward, and it should improve the efficiencies of the company as well. From a margin point of view, we will say you that whatever the company has been doing historically should be considered directionally as a margin thing, and whatever movements are there, we would be able to share you on a quarter-to-quarter basis going forward.
Correct. I am not asking for any specific number, but directionally, with all those things which you mentioned and I asked about, the margin should go up from here, right? Not a quarterly basis thing for that, but on a yearly or two-yearly basis, the direction should be upwards, right?
We would direct you for a more sustainable margin. At this moment, we can guide you this only for that. Of course, there are multiple levers which are there, which are going to be there, which should take company in a improving trajectory only. But to guide you anything today will be little difficult for us. Once we are there, we will guide you for that.
Sure. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
We are steadily advancing our aspiration of becoming the partner of choice for the world's leading food and confectionery and cosmetic companies through strategic investments in research and development, sourcing, manufacturing, and market expansion. Backed by a strong balance sheet, deep sourcing capabilities, and increasingly integrated value chain, we are well-positioned to scale our operations, enhance customer partnerships, and capture the significant opportunities emerging in the global specialty ingredients market.
As we move forward, our commitment remains unwavering to drive sustainable growth, center our global footprint, and build a resilient, innovation-led business that consistently delivers value to all stakeholders. On behalf of Manorama Industries, I thank you all for joining the call, and we look forward to serve our stakeholders, our suppliers, our forest dwellers, our customers, and all people connected with Manorama. Thank you.
Thank you. On behalf of Manorama Industries Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.