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Earnings Call: Q1 2022

May 13, 2022

Speaker 1

Good morning everyone, and thank you for waiting. Welcome to Aeris Energy first quarter of 2022 results conference call. With us here today, we have Mr. Bruno Vilela, CEO of Aeris Energy, and Mr. Bruno Lolli, Chief Planning and Investor Relations Officer. This event is being recorded, and our participants will be in a listen-only mode during the company's presentation. After Aeris Energy remarks, there will be a question and answer session. At that time, further instructions will be given. Should any participant need assistance during this call, please press star zero to reach the operator. This event is also being broadcast live via webcast and may be accessed through Aeris Energy website at http.www.ri.aerisenergy.com.br/en/, where the presentation is also available. Participants may view the slides in any order they wish. The replay will be available shortly after the event is concluded.

Those following the presentation via the webcast may post their questions on our website. They will be answered by the IR team after the conference is finished. Before proceeding, let me mention that forward-looking statements are based on the beliefs and assumptions of Aeris Energy management and on information currently available to the company. They involve risks and uncertainties because they relate to future events and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors and analysts should understand that conditions related to macroeconomic conditions, industry, and other factors could also cause results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. Now I will turn the conference over to Mr. Bruno Vilela. Mr. Vilela, you may begin your presentation.

Good morning. Good morning, everyone. First, we would like to thank you all for attending one more call to discuss the results of Aeris.

Let's start the presentation on slide number two, where we show the highlights of the first quarter of 2022. We have three main topics that we like to talk about separately when we look at a company or a market in the short, medium, and long terms. When we talk about market in terms of long term, what do we see in the energy in the wind energy market in the long run? As we have mentioned with you and discussed, there is an energy transition. We need to have more renewable energy, clean energy added to the world energy matrix in general to solve the weather issue. So this, the climate change issue. So this is something that's been addressed by several companies. We've been to the Copenhagen conference, the COP last year, and all countries committed to increase renewable energy.

What happened in the first quarter of 2022? Unfortunately, the conflict in Ukraine is something that is a reality, although nobody likes that. The war between Russia and Ukraine caused another point to be raised, which is energy security. And it's something that's well known and widely discussed on the media that all countries in Europe fear lacking energy or suffering from the high cost of energy because they all depend heavily on the gas that comes from Russia. So cutting the gas supply from Russia is something they cannot do because they depend on that. So the cost of energy in Europe is very high at the moment. But what really causes each country and each government to reflect on and make decisions that they can no longer depend on any other country, whether Russia or other countries.

So it becomes a national security issue. And then all countries in Europe, with no exception of that region, more than doubled their demand for renewable energy in the medium and long term. Why renewable energy and not other source of energy? Because it is the cheaper energy, a clean energy that needs to be installed to and to be produced, productive, and it's quickly installed. In the very short term. Of course, they will turn on any thermal plant that needs to be turned on, but the goal is to grow exponentially in the installation and deployment of wind complexes onshore and offshore. Looking at the medium term, we like to highlight this because of various reasons. The first one is that, people say that the demand for wind energy will grow a lot, and it's almost infinite.

Well, it is a reality. Why don't we see it now or in coming years? Because we're still suffering from high inflation in commodities prices that has a high impact on the price of energy. And our customers or the end customers are discussing how to have the new contract signed. First, what is the fair price, the current price of turbines considering the increase in raw materials? Also, these are short-term contracts that are signed in the short term, but they are to be installed in the medium term, two to three years from now. What will be the adjustment criteria for price fluctuations of raw material? There are a lot of negotiations taking place. There's a lot of demand for new deployments. Negotiations are taking place.

Our customers have shown, and all reports point out to that, to an increase in the price of wind turbines with about 30% in the cost of wind energy. And still, wind energy will be more competitive because all sources suffered from the inflation of raw materials. And we know that will be a boom for the demand for wind energy in the medium term. In the short term, most of our industry, our customers and competitors, have heavily suffered from the increase in the price of raw materials because they're not able to pass through this price increase to their customers, and their results is not up to what the industry needs to continue to grow given the high demand. Now, where is Aeris inserted in this short, medium, and long?

When we look at the short term for Aeris, we're talking about the focus on quality. This is our in-house mantra. We say that every day in all important events we have at the company. And why is that? Because when we talk about quality, that means efficiency. In this industry, we cannot talk about efficiency without thinking of quality. Everything we do aims at having a maximum possible return at the 10 GW that we have to return. We want to have the maximum financial return with this backlog that guaranteed. How can we do that? With quality. Without quality, we have a high repair cost. There are many products that are in work in process. The cost of not having quality in this industry is very high.

So our focus is on solving and enhancing quality in processes and products, as well as in any relationship we have. When we speak about inflation in the medium term, our contracts already include a clause for transfer of raw material inflation or changes in raw material prices, either up and down, will be passed through to customers. We are impacted with the need for working capital because more costly raw materials cause our inventory to be more expensive. In the medium term, there is the issue of renewal of some lines that are ending in coming years. There's one to end at the end of 2022 and others in 2023. And we're very optimistic that we'll be able to renew this in the second half of 2022.

In the long term, we're analyzing the market closely and talking to our customers to define where will be the best place and the best market for growth. The demand will grow, and this is clear for everyone. On the other hand, the number of companies that operate in this market is not growing. There are a lot of barriers to entry. So we frequently talk to our customers about future growth opportunities. We are looking at the onshore as well as at the offshore market, and we plan, also, getting ready for this expansion capacity. We're focusing on quality standardization, but when we need to expand to grow in going to other countries, we have plans to use all the learnings we've had and suffer less from a new greenfield project based on the lessons learned here.

These are the highlights for the first quarter of 2022. Now moving on to slide number three, we have the main indicators for the first quarter. I'm not gonna go into detail for the indicators. I'll just give you an overview because we'll discuss the impacts on each one during the presentation. I'm sorry. I was looking at the wrong slide. Now, looking at slide number three, we had a net income of BRL 1.2 million in the first quarter of 2022. ROIC of 9.3%. We are reducing the need for investment. Our CapEx was much lower in this first quarter of 2022, BRL 29.4 million.

This is a sign that this was used to finish some lines that were not mature. We have a net revenue of BRL 536 million and an EBITDA of BRL 54.3 million in the first quarter. Now, moving on to the next slides. We'll talk more in detail about the indicators. I'll turn the floor over to Lolli.

Thank you, Bruno. Good morning, everyone. On slide number four, let's talk about the return on invested capital, ROIC. We are growing less intensely in terms of the need for total capital. It's a need for working capital more than fixed assets investments. And the growth of working capital is a non-recurring. It's a very specific case. It will be offset throughout the year.

When we look at the last 12 months, NOPAT, there was a reduction, which is highly associated to the proportion of non-mature lines. We transitioned three lines in the previous quarter. In the beginning, they have negative results until they are mature in one year to become positive in terms of results. Slide number five, the ROIC dynamics. Something particular to this period, a very low net income, so 67%. I prefer to normalize the data to present it to you, the blue part. Some important highlights. In the pre-operational lines, they no longer exist. All lines are already deployed. Capital continues to be allocated to non-mature lines with a 0 return. When we look at mature lines, they have a normalized return of 20% on year.

This is slightly below to what we price and believe it's optimum. There are some performance defects, and, but we continue to work to keep return levels at least at 20% for mature lines. We had in this quarter a performance that's lower than history. The seasonality, which is natural, but also more, it was colder than usual for this time of the year. So the level of sales in the U.S. in this quarter was much lower than what we had before, and it will recover during the year. Slide number six, let's talk about net revenue. From the second to the third quarter last year, we continued to grow in the domestic market, in the orange bar, and reducing the volume of exports.

In this last quarter, from the third to the fourth quarter of last year, we had a transition of lines dedicated for exports. There were four lines, now there are only two lines dedicated to exports, which explains the reduction in exports. Now, this quarter, we start with more than 80% of sales for the domestic market. On average, we'll have, for the rest of the year, 85%-90% of sales to Brazil. Slide seven. Despite this challenging environment, we have a margin of more than 10.1% and an accumulated EBITDA in the last 12 months, around BRL 240 million. A good portion of the EBITDA is generated by the mature lines. Number eight. As Vilela mentioned, there has been an important reduction in the CapEx volume in this quarter.

There is still a volume to be dedicated to investments in the second and third quarters associated to the completion of installation of machine and equipment. Four lines that are not mature and will become mature during the second half of the year. Slide number nine. In a relationship with one customer, we had volumes lower than projected initially, and the decision to purchase raw materials is something we make five or six months before production. When there is a production plan that's not fulfilled, naturally, in the beginning, we have an excess of inventory of raw material, around BRL 100 million in this quarter. Then throughout the period, we use up this inventory, so we adjusted the purchase of new raw materials. This new sales plan is according to the guidance margins that we have published, but it will affect the need for capital.

This effect will be seen more intensely as of the second half of the year. Debt amortization. Given this effect of increase in inventories, there was a cash burn in this quarter. We had a cash position of BRL 740, and when we look at the debt profile, we have a very long debt profile. Debts that will mature in 2022 account for 7% of the total indebtedness of the company. Vilela, on slide 11. Vilela mentioned about the backlog, more than 10 gigas. When we look at the final position of 2020, it was 8.8. In 2021, we produced three gigas and sold six. We grew the backlog on an annual basis.

When we see the consumption of backlog is basically associated to production, so the lines are delivering what they are expected to deliver for this stage of maturity. Current production is BRL 8.7 billion, an average power for 5.1 MW. It's important. Now moving on to slide 12. We continued negotiating. There are eight lines whose contracts will end in 2023, and we want to extend. We can extend those contracts, and we can replace them with products that are more in demand. This is the last movement in terms of production line in 2022 in terms of decommissioning. Now, slide number 13. Looking at the results of the first quarter, based on all important indicators, we delivered what was expected in terms of results.

There's nothing to be revised on the guidance, so the result projected for 2022 is maintained. So since the volume was low in the first quarter, volumes will grow in the next quarters. In the second quarter, we project a 40% growth in megawatts delivered, and naturally, financial and economic results will accompany the same trend. With that, I finish our presentation, and I turn the floor over to the operator.

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you have a question, please press star one on your touchtone phone at this or any time. If at any point your question is answered, please re-press star two to remove your question from the queue. Questions will be taken in the order they are received. We ask you to kindly pick up your handset to provide optimal sound quality when asking the question.

Please hold while we collect the questions. The first question comes from Lucas Laghi from XP Investimentos.

Good morning, Vilela and Lolli. I have two points that I would like to have more context. This revenue dynamics, more specifically, the performance of production volume. There are two factors that have impacted the quarterly volume performance: the transition of lines from the second half of last year, which increased the share of non-mature lines in invested capital, and changes in production caused by change of customers in this project, which caused an operating revenue of BRL 23 million. How much could the revenue have grown year-on-year if we could compare before the transition of lines in the second half, if we re-excluded these two effects, the loss of production and transition, and also which one was more relevant in terms of impact?

Secondly, I would like to understand from you the mitigation of these production losses caused by the change of customers and project. This mechanism protects EBITDA because of the contract or part of the EBITDA, maybe the 60% related to the capacity of the slots. Does it only protect the added value without remuneration of raw material? I would like to understand this mitigation mechanism. Do you expect these changes to continue during the year, or should it go back to normal soon? Thank you.

Thank you, Lucas. I'll start with the second question. This loss of volume we had due to a change of guidance from customers. The contract or the agreement we have protects the added value per quarter. So we're not compensated by the raw material goods, but at this stage of.

The raw material gains, but at this stage of the project, they are very small. In practice, it protects the projected EBITDA for this quarter. This rule is valid for following quarters as well. So it's likely that throughout the year, the volumes will be a bit lower than what we had projected for this customer, but keeping the same nominal EBITDA value, considering always the stage of maturity of the lines. When we speak about the differences in drop in volume in these two quarters, the most important part is associated to the transitions made from the third to the fourth quarter. We had four lines at the maturity level. We discontinued two of them and installed three new lines. These three new lines are generating a very low volume, and the two discontinued lines account for 80% of the drop in volume we had.

If it wasn't for this transition, we would have delivered about 750 megawatts, and we delivered 630. The volume forecast for this customer that had a change in design were low initially, so it does not affect the volumes delivered in the quarter materially. It's like I said, we have a very significant growth projection of at least 40% and the volume delivered in the second quarter, this is associated to non-mature lines. We have growth with this customer that changed the guidance, but the most significant growth relates three lines that we installed at the end of last year. When we make this negotiation of change of model, of course, we have to meet the customer demand because that's the product we're selling. In the short term, we recover.

We're able to recover that. As executives, we look at the long term and the ROIC of the project. Certainly this was taken into account in this transition of the models of this customer and all customers. So either we capture more demand in the future and we try to make the contract safe in the long run. Okay, it's clear. I believe this transition of the blades is more of a structural issue and natural given the business model. Our question, it was more related to the change in the contract in which you lose the EBITDA that would remunerate the raw material, thinking about a more normalized reduction cycle. So the transition is natural, but it was this point that we needed to understand better.

So as Lolli said, it doesn't affect it now because of a structure, but if this scenario doesn't normalize, maybe EBITDA will be lower than expected because you're not remunerating the raw material. Did I understand it correctly?

Sorry, Lolli, you said 40% the second quarter this year. Would it be quarter-on-quarter? Yes, quarter-on-quarter, Lucas, of this growth and more than 10% of the second quarter when compared to the first. Yes, you are right about the evolution. Producing lower volumes means that we allocate less material and have a lower chance of capturing any gain on the evolution of matures. On the other hand, producing less volume when we know that will happen also means less invested capital, less working capital. So the way we make the contracts aims to protect the return on invested capital.

If we have volume until the end of the project, which is a possibility, we maintain the allocated capital volume lower than originally forecast, but we also maintain the average return on capital.

Okay. Thank you all, and have a good day.

The next question comes from Lucas Barbosa from Santander.

Good morning, Vilela. Good morning, Lolli. Lolli, thank you for the question. Vilela raised this question about some contracts in 2023. From what I see on slide 12, there are two products, one with six production lines and one with two production lines. Can you give details which one you're negotiating the extension for? And if it's the six-month production product, if you plan to extend all the lines or only a portion of them. If you could give us some details about that, would be very helpful. Thank you.

Good morning, Lucas. How are you? Lucas, unfortunately, we cannot give the name of the customer, but this customer of 6 lines, we're negotiating an extension for that contract with a minimum usage of four lines, but up to six. A minimum of 4 lines and maximum of 6 lines. This extension would be up to 2026. The two lines, we are negotiating a change of model. It's not an extension in the agreement, but a change in model. It's not 100%. It's just the length of the blade. This is what we are negotiating. Just adding on this final part, this 2-line customer, we are negotiating with him or with them to transition to a product we already manufacture, so it's much simpler than what we had in the past, and it would probably happen in the beginning of 2023.

Thank you, Lolli and Vilela. From the customer's sixth line will be a cu-a contract extension, not new product, and that would be for 2026. Is that right?

Yes, that's right.

Perfect. Thank you. If you allow me to ask a second question, you were studying potentially to build a offshore plant outside Brazil. Could you give us an update on the possibility of having that project implemented?

Okay. When we speak about market, let's talk about what's going on. For example, the United States and Europe. Europe will be a large market, maybe even larger than the U.S., for the reasons I mentioned at the beginning. In Europe, now the permits are the main bottleneck. Depending on country, it's a very lengthy process, a very bureaucratic process.

That's been disclosed in the media that the European Union is working on the standardization of the permit process. If that happens, demand will increase because several complexes will be able to be auctioned. Today, only a few complexes are able to be auctioned. That will decrease the dispute for prices from our customers, with their customers. Europe is a market we're learning about now more because we see the demand is very high. But there is a potential to install a plant there because in Europe, the need is speed, not local content rule.

On the other hand, in the United States, Biden was unable to pass the infrastructure policy or package in Congress, and this package will define the need to install a product set so labor-intensive as it is the production of wind turbine, or rather blades. One of our customer has announced that they will make a plant there, build a plant there, and the other customer is waiting for this plant to pass in order to make investment decisions. The state has been defined because in the U.S., there are state benefits and federal benefits. The state that provides the more benefits and also that has more demand is New York. So if the federal rule provides incentives and makes it feasible to actually install an offshore plant in the United States, we will have a plant in New York State.

Aeris attended an offshore event in Atlantic City last year, and we could see how much this market is growing. It's growing not only in the United States, but also in Europe, and it will also grow strongly in Brazil because other large companies will be in Brazil. Oil and gas companies will be in the offshore market. There are more than 100 GW projects that are Shell. Shell has a very large portfolio of offshore projects in the US. About 100 GW offshore in the United States. Our market is less than double of that, 180. We'll never have such an offshore demand in Brazil. It is true. This is not for domestic consumption.

What's been planned also to meet the needs of the European market, since Brazil is a neutral country, politically speaking, all companies are studying the green hydrogen. So they will use the offshore generation to be able to generate green hydrogen and export that hydrogen to Europe. And that will be done. There are studies about the ports of Brazil that can meet the demand from offshore markets. Rotterdam port in Europe is already linked to other ports in Europe with gas pipelines. So this is not a utopian statement. We're talking about large companies such as Shell, for example. It's raining heavily here in Fortaleza, so we have a background noise. Let me know if you cannot hear me well.

No, it's very clear, Vilela. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Fernanda Recchia from BTG Pactual.

Hello, Vilela. Hello, everyone, Vilela, Lolli. Two points. First, regarding the CapEx assumptions. We've seen news that the cost of CapEx per kilowatt has increased about 20% in real terms. Do you see such cost increase? Is that reflected in the guidance reported to the market, or could we expect a higher CapEx in the next quarters to reflect that? Also, the OEM results have had very low margins, especially due to the increase in raw material prices. Have you seen any, or could we expect any impact on the backlog for future years? Thank you.

Oh, thank you, Fernanda. Good morning. Let me try to answer your question very objectively. When we talk about increase, this cost increase refers to the inflation that we mentioned in the beginning.

The wind turbines that are being installed today or in coming months worldwide have been negotiated some time ago, maybe even before 2020. So these are contracts that are signed and implemented in the medium term. So the negative results of our customers is because of that, they signed an agreement with the price of turbine before the price, the inflation on the price of raw materials. There's nothing in the, in the agreement that allows them to increase the price of the turbines. They're talking about global prices, so logistics is also an issue. So this is the reason for them to have difficulty in results currently, because they refer to contracts that have been signed in the past and whose price increases cannot be transferred.

This is why they're sitting down to renegotiate future contracts, and this is why the demand is not growing as much as we expected, because they are now renegotiating with the owners of the wind complexes. So when we talk about this increase in CapEx of 20%-30%, this is from the point of view of the investor, the owner of the complex. The CapEx that they consider is the complex infrastructure and the turbine. The price adjustments that our customers are passing through the owners of the wind complexes is 20%-30%. For us, this will cause the results of our customers to be financially stable again. I don't know if it's clear. If you have any questions, we're here to clarify them.

Yes, it's clear. Thank you.

You're welcome.

The next question is from Eloisa Cruz from Soxos.

Thank you for the question. Two questions. We have this vision of contracts and ROIC is well-defined. We know that the lines have a long maturing process. Rafi, did you talk about the protected EBITDA? Actually, what we have seen is a drop in the ROIC. When I look at things that are not in contract, that's not so much. The pandemic as a whole, the lockdowns, absenteeism, Omicron, things that are getting in the way of the performance. This drop in the ROIC, that is much worse, along with. We're talking about an inflation that's been higher in the last months. We know that the contracts are being renegotiated, but actually we've seen this, almost, since I joined Bi Capital. I would like to understand what could be included in a non-recurring account and what will happen.

I mean, there are several lines maturing that is a clear sign of improvement, but it would be negotiated because all the CapEx has been installed, so the beta will be better. I would like you to help me have a better visibility. The ROIC we had at the time of the IPO was for a specific moment with many mature lines and very few new lines, growth in revenue. There is a backlog and guidance that provides substantial increases in the next y- months. I mean, based on the contracts, if you could allow us to have a better reading of these results, I would be very thankful.

Good morning, Eloisa. Looking at what's non-recurring since the IPO, Omicron is not. We had an excessive absenteeism in the beginning of January, but it was a very short time. It did not affect the projected volumes.

We had a more important impact on the second quarter of last year at the second wave of COVID in Brazil. What really made a difference were the transitions of lines that were not projected back then. We had a portfolio of contracts, and it evolved, especially due to incremental development from our customers that now have different product lines with success, commercial success, which generated an anticipation between the third and fourth quarter of last year. So naturally, we start with a high allocation of capital in the beginning of the contract and a low operational result. Something that is a non-recurring effect but is lasting long. It's a logistical complexity of raw materials because most of them are imported, and this is much worse than it used to be.

The times of transit of raw materials are at least 30 days longer than they used to be. We've been trying to negotiate longer terms for better payment terms with our customers. But despite that, we're more conservative in terms of safety buffers for inventory. We have a ROIC of 400-500 basis points, given the logistic complexity of materials. There are other factors such as location of suppliers closer to the Aeris plant. We are talking to our customers and suppliers to attract them to close to the Aeris plant to have more speed in delivery. The impact on inventory will cost BRL 400 million-BRL 500 million.

The customer does not pay for that. It's fully Aeris risk.

Yes, correct. It's all Aeris.

The customer pays for variation in logistics costs, tax costs, either up or down, or cost of materials, but the cash conversion is 100% on Aeris. Capital cost variation is on Aeris. Throughout 2022, we've had an important growth in delivery volume, consequently revenues, and we'll continue with our sales efforts to maintain the backlog at least at the current levels.

Okay. Thank you.

The next question is from Frederico Veiga from Morgan Stanley.

Good morning, Vilela and Lolli. Thank you for the call. I have two question. First, on the revenue from services, if you could share the prospects to grow the business in 2022 and the raw materials that you mentioned, there's an increase for working capital.

Is there an improvement expected for the second quarter? What do you expect to be when fully normalized?

Good morning. In services, there has been a drop in revenue in this first quarter, especially due to the winter in the United States. There was more. It was colder than expected, so it postponed the services we have contracts for. The trend is for it to continue to grow. It will grow from 3% to 5% in our revenue. So this is a market we see with a good outlook. As for the logistics of raw material, if everything remains as it is expected to be, it tends to improve until the beginning of 2023. That's when we believe it will be regularized or normalized. Because if there is any lockdowns as it happened in Shanghai, then the world logistics will be affected.

Okay, that's very clear. Thank you very much.

Excuse me. This ends the Q&A session now. I would like to turn the floor to Mr. Vilela for his final remarks.

Well, thank you very much for your attention. Thank you for the questions. We remain available here with our investor relations channels to answer any questions you may have, or if you want to talk about the market. As a final message, we always say that this market we operate in is not promising, but it will grow exponentially. When we look at the demand, customers and that global regions are expecting to have wind energy in coming years, we're sure that the bottleneck will be the industry. We have to be prepared for growth, otherwise we will not be able to implement this high demand that's been planned for worldwide.

In the short term, we face difficulties. We're used to them. Of course, we are a Brazilian company, so as Brazilians, we're used to difficulties, day-to-day difficulties of managing a company. We know that this will be over at some point in time, and we'll grow with our customers strongly when the demand is here and clear for the infrastructure package for the U.S. and energy needs in Europe. As for the Brazilian market, it continues to grow strongly. We don't. There are no components available to provide to Brazil, but we know that it will continue to grow and capture these opportunities. Thank you for attending, have a good weekend, and we remain available.

The conference call of Aeris Energy has now ended. We thank you all for attending.

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