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Earnings Call: Q4 2020

Mar 3, 2021

Good afternoon. Welcome, everyone, to the Disclosure Results for the Q4 of 2020 at Via Varejo. I'm Daniela Abretaoure, the Director of IR. And I joined Via Varejo in the end of the year. We decided to migrate to this video conferencing format Since the pandemic scenario is uncertain, and we feel this format can bring us closer. At this moment, everyone is connected as listening just listening. But after the presentation, we'll open up to Q and A, which can be done by video, chat or phone through dial in. But we would like Via Varejo. This video conference is being recorded. And an important notice to join our list, if you have any questions, send them to our e mail address at intrentavavearejo.com.br. We will answer ASAP. The presentation and the slides will be controlled by our team and transmitted simultaneously online through our website, our IR website, And we'll have simultaneous translation in English as well, which will also be transmitted and broadcasted on YouTube in Portuguese. Before we move on, I'd like to clarify that possible declarations that could happen during the teleconference related to any perspectives for the business and the company must be considered expectations only and forecasts that are based on the intentions and beliefs as well as expectations of the directors in regards to the future of the company. These expectations are highly depend on shifts in the market, the economic performance of the Brazilian economy, the retail industry and the international markets and the effect of the pandemic towards the business, which are thus subject to changes. In this video conference, we have Roberto Bushelbacher, our CEO and Padilla, our CFO. Today, we'll be talking about the main highlights in the Q4 and the year of 2020. Now I'll pass on the word to Roberto. He's the CEO at Via Varejo to start the presentation. Thank you, Denny. Good afternoon, everyone. I hope you are all doing well and healthy. And I'd like to all thank you for being here during our call. The year 2020 was certainly historical, not only for Brazilians, but all over the world. It was a year of a lot of uncertainty, losses and Challenges for people and companies. In a single year, the company reinvented all of its operation, implemented and deployed many projects. And we increased our competitive advantage in this new scenario of a unified retail where the physical and online world operate in an integrated manner. On Slide 2, I would like to share Some of the main highlights for 2020. We are digital. There's no doubt. The sales on the digital channel represented almost 50% of the company's GMV. The gross GMV was $12,800,000,000 in the 4th quarter, an increase of 31% and about RMB 39 1,000,000,000 in 2020 with an evolution of 21%. We also had a robust growth in our e commerce platform from 112 percent in the 4th quarter and with 174% in 2020 with a growth of 84% in the 4th quarter 90% in the overall year. These numbers give us the certainty that we are on the right track and that the turnaround has already begun successfully. On Slide 3, I'm going to highlight Some of our main deliverables, the online salesperson strategy, Mishamanozafi, was developed in record timing, And it was fundamental to leverage our digital sales. We have an army of over 20,000 sales reps and they were able to deliver DKK2.8 billion in sales even with all of the restrictions and lockdowns that happened and that continue to happen. Just in the Q4, Michama Nozapi was able to sell over BRL1 1,000,000,000. This is a very important differential that no one else in the market has. We are very well prepared in the year of 2021 to continue to grow earnings share when compared to the last year and the beginning of the pandemic. Now an important asset, our customers, they've also evolved in the last year. Their participation of mobile in our sales reached 70%, leveraged by the new versions of the apps for Casa Paya and Pao de Fria and also by the launch of the Extra Pao de Comp. Our customers are at the center of our strategy and this obsession and working with them better and better can be noticed and the evolution of our NPS indicators on our at our stores and on our website. We also had significant improvements in the Hikaima key ranking. And as you can notice, our logistical network is a huge differential with Azapi Log we acquired in April 2020 already has over 200,000 delivery trucks around Brazil, and it's still one of the best last mile operators in the country. It can also work with third parties in many different categories, including clothing, cosmetics, consumer goods and other categories with national coverage. At the end of February, we were able to deliver over 40% of all of the orders in 24 hours. And in 48 hours, about 60% of everything we had transactions. All of this was done with a cost reduction and greater efficiency. Now in the Q4, the same day delivery that happened at the same day represent already 15% of all of our online sales. So from everything we sell online, 15% is already delivered on the same day all over Brazil, regardless of whether the item is light or heavy. This is a differential. And especially when we think about heavy stuff, selling ice cream and delivering it quickly is easy, but selling the refrigerator that's going to be storing that ice cream and delivering in the same day is a difficult and expensive challenge. So these investments are already supported by the current numbers with the expected growth for 2021. We will take advantage even more of our installed capacity, accelerating the productivity gains. Another important strength is our offering of financial services through Benqi. We finished the year with an increase of our payment book of BRL1 1,000,000,000 with a Final portfolio of BRL6.4 billion. I don't know if you remember, but when we started off, we said that strength of this company was the payment booklet and that we were going to leverage this. Another important good news is that we have preapproved limits of BRL11 1,000,000,000. So we have an Insured sale of BRL11 1,000,000,000 for our pre approved customers. And also with co brand card, the volume of credit was increased by $7,000,000,000 So our policies for approval and for provisioning are still extremely conservative, which explains a drop in the default indicators, which can be presented by the over 30 and over 90 indexes, reduction of 29%, which goes back to the pre pandemic levels. Benqi will be an important player In our strategy for financial inclusion, we are able to digitalize the entire credit approval process from the concession to the receipt of the installment. Even the famous Casas Bahia payment book that was reinvented, the Crediario, and it's already available digitally. We finished the year with about BRL2 1,000,000,000 under management with BRL1.8 million accounts opened and about BRL300 1,000,000 PDV. So even if we consider the control of Airfox, Azaplog and 9XP, a company that specializes in the development of technology for e commerce. And we should also mention our stake at Distrito, a innovation hub for startups. We Now in June 2020, the company reopened into the public market with a Follow on of BRL4.5 billion, this operation received the award of the best follow on offering in Latin America by Latin Finance. All of these acquisitions that I just mentioned were able to leverage our strategy and should contribute a lot to new market share gains in 2021. On Slide 4, you can notice that Quarter by quarter, we have been growing above market levels. On average, our growth was 2x greater than the market. According to the data, we were from Compre Confio, we were able to gain about 4 percentage points in market share. As I mentioned, our speed in adapting to this new scenario and the launch of the online sales team was fundamental for this big turnover. In the Q4, the mine sales team reached 21% of our total sales. The improvement in the product mix and more availability of products were also fundamental to help us gain share. Our customers are becoming more and more multichannel. And these customers that are more digital spent 2x more and come back with a lot more frequency. Our penetration in higher income Clients also doubled in the end of last year due to the strength of our strategy, our commercial strategy and also the good acceptance of our brands. The repositioning campaign of the Bayanillo for Casa Bahia was absolute success. We have customers from many different social levels and age groups. So it's a real democratization or accessibility of our strategy. We were able to resume our opening of new stores in 2021, and we will be opening 120 stores, 15 were already open in January February. The focus will be in the North and Northeast regions, where our market share is still very much below our real potential, especially when compared to our presence in the Southeast region. We have room to double the number of stores in this region. I would also like to Share some information that reinforces our expansion in this region. So productivity per square meter in the recently launched stores in the Northeast is 40% above the company's average. And we were able to close down 32 stores in the Q4. And we had already mentioned that we would be closing about 100 stores, But we're assessing in the Q1 how many would still need to be closed. This is because we're renegotiating all of the rent. And in some cases, we are very successful, which removes the need to close down these stores. I would also like to present the new visual identity of the shopping mall stores with a greater emphasis on technology, such as what you're looking at in this screen. So we're strongly working on different initiatives to accelerate our marketplace and really win. We will win in the marketplace this year. On Slide 7, we highlight some of these efforts. Constant improvements in the onboard process with an important reduction in the term for admitting new sellers. We already have The new onboard version, I have a little video to demonstrate this as well. But to sum it up in 3 minutes, A seller can sign up and start up a new store operation with us. I'm going to show you the video, and you'll understand a little better. For your store to be on, come and sell on the Qazuz Bahia app. My store is on, and I don't have to pay anything. My store is on with Qazuz Bahia. With the presence of Casa Bahia, you can expand your business and you can sell to all over Brazil. With the logistical advantages on In 3 minutes, you can register your store and we'll have more than 20,000 salespeople working with you. I work and I sell on WhatsApp. My store is on with Casas Bahia. Well, you could see on the video that we certainly are calling the sellers here. We have an onboarding process that is extremely accelerated. In 3 minutes, the seller can sign up. We have this film on Open TV with them. We're calling new sellers. We're on social media, on specialized Media and also with over 40,000 e mail marketing efforts to specific sellers inviting me to Via Varejo. So certainly, we have got into a strong acceleration journey. So we are focused on expanding our portfolio, participating in new categories and new items. So just in the month of February, we were able to add on about 1,000,000 SKUs in our platform, launches of special deals and special promotional tools and improvement in the Product tracking system, modifications on the delivery dates and cancellations. A new visual for the process to register project products, updating prices and inventories, major offering of delivery services sales in the marketplace. And we're also going to expand our relationship in the Banki with some store owners in the marketplace with some corporate bank accounts and other financial services such as the payment booklet for the marketplace customers. So on Slide 8, we also want to highlight some of Benqi's differentials, an important tool for financial inclusion for Level D and C. We already have over BRL2.3 billion. We have BRL1.8 million accounts active And it's BRL2.3 billion under management. This is about the TTV is around BRL300 1,000,000 and PIX already represents 11 Sanadas. We have a complete digital account, including payment services and a QR code So over $7,000,000 of facilities that we accept, Banquilla as a payment method. So with this integration of the Casas Bahia stores making it possible to cash money and also deposit money at any of the stores all the days in the week. Now I want to pass on the word to Pagina, our CFO, so that he can go into the financial highlights. Padilla? Thank you, Roberto. The numbers for 2020 are the results Of our determination and the success of the strategy we adopted on Slide 10, I have some of the data of the Q4 and the year of 2020 according to the accounting criteria. I want to highlight the evolution of our gross GMV. So the Q4 growth was up 31% to about 12,700,000 And in the year, this was 21%, so to almost BRL39 1,000,000,000. The gross profit increased 30% to BRL2.8 billion with a gross margin of BRL30.5 billion. In the overall year, the increase of the gross Margin was 4 percentage points to 32.8 percent. The EBITDA went from a negative number in the Q4 of 2019 to BRL565 1,000,000 in the Q4 and it almost doubled to the level of almost BRL3 1,000,000. This shift in the profitability can be observed in the net profit that went from major losses in 2019 to robust profits of over BRL 1,000,000,000 in 2020. On Slide 11, I can represent some of the conciliation of the nonrecurring effects for the main lines in our results so that you can match the performance the operational and accounting performance in the quarter. Here on Slide 12, we have the highlights of the quarter and the year from the operational perspective. So the gross GMV performance, As I mentioned in the previous slide, but the gross margin adjusted for nonrecurring effects was at 29.2%, 1 percentage point lower, which is explained by the shift in the channel mix with greater participation in the e commerce and the total sales. The adjusted EBITDA was of $709,000,000 13% higher compared to the last year with an EBITDA margin adjusted of 7.5 which represents good control on expenses. In the Q4, we had net revenue net profit, sorry, reaching BRL 209,000,000 with a net margin of 2.2%. In 2020, We had a shift in the losses, almost BRL0.5 billion to profits of BRL167 1,000,000. Now I would like to mention in greater detail some points about our financial strategy on Slide 13. In the year of 2020, the financial results were negative by CNY697 1,000,000, 27% lower year by year. And as a percentage of the net revenue was 2.4%. And during the Q4, we had resumed the policy of discounted receivables on credit cards, but at a lower proportion due to the improvement in our capital structure due to the follow on offering. We finished the quarter with a cash position of 8,500,000,000 or $9,300,000,000 if you include the value of the anticipation for supplier. Our net cash is BRL 4,000,000,000, considering the non deducted portfolio. And the financial leverage indicator adjusted for the last 12 months was 1.4 times. So basically stable compared to the previous year. In Slide 14, I would like to mention some of the production indicators and the performance of our payment book. While the performance of the portfolio had an evolution to $6,400,000,000 we had a major improvement in indicators such as Delays in the 2nd semester so that we closed the year with a reduction in all of the delays over 30, over 90 and over 60, with 29% at the PDD. The level resumed to the levels pre pandemic. Now I'll pass the word back on to Roberto as he talks about some final indicators when it comes to ESG Practices. Thank you, Padilla. In the environmental field, even with a very challenging year with Stores closed down and many different restrictions in the operation of our stores, we reinforced our reverse logistics program. So when we think about emissions, we are able to have Significant reduction with the reorganization of Via Varejo's logistics based on a mini hub system with a zaplog using lighter vehicles, reducing the number of displacements or trips of trucks to be able to make products reach our customers. The number of used appliances and electronics collected at the stores was tripled, reaching a total of 400 collection points. And we continue to invest in renewable energy sources. We disclosed yesterday our annual sustainability report. To download this report completely, you can access our Investor Relations website at Via Varejo. We continue to see major opportunities for growth for Via Varejo in 2021 and intense potential for value generation. We're proud of our evolution, and we will deliver even more. I would like to finish this presentation by mentioning some of the important strategic leverages for 2021. We will win the game in the marketplace with a big scope of services provided to our sellers. That's it, guys. We are starting with a major focus on marketplace because we want to win. We're going to expand our market share. We're going to leverage our logistics through a ziplock, providing solutions to for light and heavy products, such as deliveries on the same day all over the country and a full scope of services to collect and distribute and store products for our sellers. So we're going to win over share in high volume categories and increase our share in higher income customers. So here, it's very important to see major leverages of furniture and matches. So if we place the 3rd and 4th places, they don't even get close to our position. So we have even more room for leveraging this. We're going to be focused on the North and Northeast for new store openings, and we're going to accelerate our credit offerings through payment booklets, the digital model offering credit to our customers in the marketplace and through our co brand cards. And finally, we're going to be growing above the market level. So I'm going to complete this presentation. And now we would like to open up to Q and A. We have provided multichannels so that you can make your questions. But the access through the video Via Varejo. At Biavarejo. Biavarejo. Our first question comes from Guillermo Merciase from Safra. You may go. Biavarejo. I have two main questions. 1 is that we are experiencing an uncertain moment in the economy now. And so I would like to understand you guys' perspectives for 2021. I think it's very clear to see your focus on the marketplace. If you could maybe Give us some info on how the performance has been after the closure of the quarter because We had the phase out of the corona voucher and we also have a lot of uncertainty in the macro economic scenario. So I want to understand if you guys have seen, for example, that the end of the corona voucher had some impact in your sales after Christmas, for example, and New Year's? This is my question. And also my second question, It's also pretty clear to see that you guys have a strategy now to have this new platform in the marketplace. And you guys have also described all of the initiatives and the strategic focuses to be able to leverage sales in the marketplace. We also see that the competitive environment is a little more intense now. We've seen competitors like B2W shifting their commercial policy to be able to also leverage growth. And MELI also announced some intent investments to be able to set up a fulfillment platform as well and as well as in Mercado Pago was about BRL10 1,000,000,000 in investments in Brazil. How do you imagine this competitive environment? And how do you respond to it be able to deliver the growth that you guys are expecting for the marketplace. Good afternoon, Guillaume, and thank you for your question. Thank you for being here on our call. Well, about 2021, we began the year in January February, And we are at the same growth rhythm as we had in the 4th quarter. So we continue to grow significantly. We are still gaining market share And we continue to gain market share at levels that are very similar to what we demonstrated here. Now About CoronaVoucher and its impact in our business, it's important to highlight that in the 3rd quarter, Corona voucher was 100%. In the 4th quarter, it was about half. And when we migrate to January February, we still have no impact due to the Growth that we continue to work on in January February, we were very attentive to who was receiving and how they were using most of this was used for food actually, so almost 50%. And it was more there was greater penetration in the north and northeast where we still have lower penetration and we're going to reverse this with the launch of new stores, but we also had this important benefit. I could say that the absence of this current voucher in our business did not have much of an impact. We continue to gain market share and selling well now in January February. About the year overall, yes, it is a more complex year, but we are very optimistic. I think everything we planted in 2020 kind of led us to this path for this year and gives us a chance to Compete a lot more in this market and continue to win over share. We will continue to win share quarter by quarter this year. Now about more intense competition, I think it would be important here to highlight because there's some players that leave 1P, go back 1P. We're already used to this kind of dynamic. Those players that go back to 1P and then they burn cash very quickly. This already happened. It's not the first time. We know exactly how to deal with this. And all of our strategy for negotiation With industry, we already have basically the whole year planned. We have a lot of share to go eliminate or reduce any kind of aggressive competition that we can't monitor. This has not impacted our business up until now. So these free transportation practices and all of that do not impact our business. And so I believe we're very well structured. The investments you mentioned, for example, was like BRL10 1,000,000,000 for Meli. When you read their interview, you can see that it's not necessarily investments. There's a lot of expenses involved. And if you were to compare that with us, Ours is probably about 30% higher than that, right, if you compare what's included in those BRL 10,000,000,000. So we respect our competitors, but Via Varejo is Via Varejo that has been involved a lot more. If we were to consider logistics, for example, We are already doing what no one else does. We are already doing like 15% of everything that's delivered online, basically happening on the same day regardless of if it's a light or heavy item. So for heavy items, I would risk say that no one else in the market can do. We do this at all over Brazil and all of the markets and all the regions. Another example is that in the past year, it's not like we have the conditions to deliver all over Brazil. We delivered 99.9 percent of the municipalities last year, maybe like 5 municipalities we were not able to reach. We're even calling around so we can deliver some products in these municipalities also. So this is And if we consider same day delivery, we're still in version number 1. We have another 3 versions to get in this semester still. So this version considers 4 distribution centers and 200 stores from the 1100 stores that are mini hubs. So we're going to evolve in a number of stores. And then you can imagine the potential of where these 15% can reach. Another thing is that we already have in the Q3 in our pipeline. Now that we're not going to be talking about same day delivery anymore, we're going to be talking about same hour delivery. We're going to have ultra express delivery And we're going to be delivering in the same moment when the order is completed. So with all of this, my investments, And this is important to be clear is that we're investing in technology, but all of the assets are already here. They were already here actually. What we were doing in this turnaround was to connect all of these things and place them and make them work. So we definitely have what it takes to compete. No one has a more aggressive freight chart as we do because of everything we already do all over Brazil. So I'd say is that what was done so far has not affected our competitive advantage. And if it does affect in any way. We have a lot of assets and room for Maneuvers to shift in different areas and operate even better than what's set in the market. And just some follow-up, Roberto. We can see that you guys continue to have healthy margins, While other players are talking about improving service level, giving up some margin to be able to fund their growth initially and then reach profitability in the future. But How can you see consider this all of this? I think you guys mentioned this now at the end of the answer, right, that you have this room, a little room. But how do you imagine this dynamic, the competitiveness and the fact that you guys still have a margin that's a bit above what we see in competition. Of course, there are services, Financial Services and other things. But do you think that at some moment you guys Could maybe give up a bit of margin to be able to fight this kind of competition if it's very intense to be able to continue growing and gaining market share as you have done. Now, Guilherme, here's some good news. Everyone's like burning down margins to improve their But I already have this level of service. So the answer is already here. We just have to move a little more here that way, But it's already happening, and we were able to win over a lot of market share. We were able to evolve strongly in the service level, And we didn't give up margins for this. When we look at the competition, we see some competitors that have been opening up giving up margins quarter by quarter and there's going to be a limit, right? There's a moment where you can't give up that much more. And so we are already balancing out growth here without giving up any kind of margin. And we have other competitors that never made money. So the marketplace in Brazil, no one makes money like this here in Brazil. We are really focused on evolving the marketplace, making money, And we have the necessary attributes to do this. That's clear. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to remind you that to have any questions by video, please click on the join Q and A item on the Via Varejo. We'll move on with the question from Daniela Aker. Good afternoon. Thank you, everyone. Congratulations on your results. I have two questions. The first one is about the impact of non recurring elements in this Quarter, we saw about $550,000,000 in adjustments in operational expenses. Considering SG and A and others, I want to understand what kind of expenses they are. If you could give us more details on what was what? And also, Another point that I wanted to understand is the impact of the recent decision about default with ICMS by the Supreme Court and how this impacts you, if you have already had any kind of if you've been affected by this financially and what to represent your operation? And the third one is another question about the video that you presented. You guys mentioned about 0 commission. What is the 0 commission exactly for a salesperson? Thank you. Thank you, Daniela, for your questions. I'll pass it on to Padilla to answer his first the first ones, and I'll answer the last one. Thank you, Daniela. I'll talk about default. Actually, Very important decision for retail, for electronics. And for Via Varejo, this is the same thing. Due to the importance of the electronic Commerce, we stopped paying 2 taxes. Now we only pay 1. And this impact for Via Varejo is strategically more important because we made some decisions In the legal and technical sphere during the process, we have a process under progress lawsuit that's under progress. And so this Supreme Court decision is more favorable for Via Varejo. This is an important impact. It's recurring and about 100 bps and our margin that can be applied in greater competitive advantage from now on. It's important to also mention that recent decisions from This judicial power in Brazil also brought in another competitive advantage, which is what we call subvention. So everything that has an incentive also has incentives for all of the taxes, not only those direct impact Our direct taxes, which brought in an important impact in our income tax and social contribution with 40 bps that are recurred. And so the 2 impacts together that are recurring from January onwards and default since January represent about 140 beeped in our Competitive advantage when it comes to this. And this is one of the most relevant points. Now about your first question. The company has Legacy. And we have been working on this in the case of the most relevant contingency, which is labor Liabilities, and we already reduced about 50% of the volume of losses that we had in the company in the past. And this is an important adjustment to consider the current risk. Obviously, we also No, and this administration has been able to bring in other benefits that more than offset this increase in the risks and the labor liabilities. So obviously, this can I don't know if you were in the Investor Day in November 2019 when we talked about this a lot, but We disclosed that the company had other credits, and we are bringing this Internalizing this, these are materializing themselves and these are very important because they provide high liquidity? We're talking about 2.5 years to be able to monetize 100 percent of these credits. And we've been able to balance this out in a very significant way with a Positive balance. So about the commissioning, it's on the video. You can it's really that. So we are providing the opportunity with small sellers registering with 0 commissions during 3 months. And this is a huge opportunity for small sellers to Come to Via Varejo and connect with our platform and so that they can also experiment our ecosystem and that we can promote loyalty. So that's really it. It's limited to 3 months so far. There's nothing new. We We even have retailers that give sellers cash back. We're at this moment proposing these 3 months. The good news is that The onboarding of sellers is something that we kind of left aside in the 2nd semester in order to focus on 1P. And as I had already mentioned, the focus this year is marketplace. The acquisition we had of N9 CSP, We brought a team of over 100 professionals that are specialized in e commerce and marketplace, and they added up to our team. We quickly completed the onboarding process, And we completed the year with 10,000 sellers on the 31st December. We finished February with 15,000 sellers. We still hadn't included this promotion. Nothing was in the air. We only have this new platform. And now I could say that the rhythm of onboarding in the sellers, considering that they're able to create their store in just 3 minutes, We are doing per day what we would do in a full month. So there's no more limitation. We can Onboard sellers, exponentially, we have intense work done as we sign up. One of the important assets that this company has is really its brands, so we don't want to put them at risk. So we have some important control with the new sellers centering, but we have no more limitations. We quickly reached the stellar volumes that competition has, if this is interesting to us. We're going to move on now with Hubei Incoto. Good morning, everyone. I want to talk about the marketplace still. Now it's clear that this is a central strategy for you guys, but how can you ensure the same level of service that you just have at 1P with all this onboarding of the sellers that you guys are accelerating a lot. And can you also talk about this in Via's platform and when we should imagine some kind of significance in 3P with this platform. Have you guys considered the hypothesis of some incentives for sellers to bring them into the platform, we what should we expect for the rest of this year? Well, thank you, Huvein, for your question. I want to start talking about INFIAs, which is really talking about how we're going to maintain the standard of quality in our business. So It's already operational. And the second phase of Envios is already available, which is Envias Colleta. And when the seller performs a sale, I collect this, placed this in our my logistical structure and finalized delivery. So more and more, we are operating with the seller's logistics, This is just the beginning. We have a very important journey up ahead with the evolution in Envius, and we already have The two main points that guarantee the level of service. And another important detail is that Azaplog already has a huge amount of delivery people connected and they are already all over Brazil. So Adeplog is not only operating for Via Varejo, it really combines with the logistical strategy Via Varejo, so they will be major operators for other players out of our ecosystem. For example, today we already operate, for example, Yesuelo, Odara and other brands. And we are strongly active in the logistical development so that we can ensure this quality. Now when it comes to incentives for the sellers, I could tell you the following: the success we're having with onboarding sellers without Working on anything similar to what was done in the market, we are proposing to give With the success we're having, I think we're not going to need to create incentives. I think that actually, as I mentioned, Just to take up the balance, no one makes money with the marketplace. And it seems almost like the more cash you burn, the more the company's Price goes up here, we kind of believe in the opposite. So we think that you need to give money as well, but we have attributes as well. So, it was purely marketplace that really depends on commissions only, eventually may have problems if they Start with a commission war, but we are very well prepared To and very just a little time through Banki, we can have our payment booklet providing credit also to marketplace items. And so all of you guys know how profitable our payment booklet is and how well controlled our Default rates are so here you can see only the positive numbers. That's an important source of revenue and our logistics as well. So I don't need to have investments to improve my logistical quality. The logistics I have is already ready, and it's already participating in my results. So as I add on more and more sellers that are operating with MyLogistics, I just optimize my costs. I don't increase costs. I just reduce the average cost of my business. And then, of course, we can have costs that are extremely accessible with our freight making a lot of money. So I would say the following. For those who are purely marketplace Operators don't really rely on this commission. They could have problems because if we need to do something here with In regards to commissions in the long run, this will not affect our results in any way. Next question comes from Eric Yuan, 11 Financial. Hello. I'm so sorry, I've had a problem with hearing my video. I'm sorry, it's not appearing, but thank you for answering my question. Also in regards to the marketplace, you guys mentioned in your release about the expansion of your product portfolio. So we want to understand What would be considered priority segments when it comes to the increase in the portfolio? We saw an acquisition by one of your competitors of a player connected to the Due to the food retail segment, would it make sense for you guys to do something like this? And also a second question is About inventory, you guys ended up the 4th quarter with very robust inventory and you guys mentioned some lack of supply risks. So I want to understand if there's some specific item where you see this and if these supply risks could affect the sellers in the 3P, if this could lead to any kind of negative impact? Well, thank you. Eric, your video disappeared. Now we see you. Well, in regards to the The product portfolio and assortment, just in the month of February, we were able to add on 1,000,000 SKUs in our marketplace. Now we already have BRL11 1,000,000. And with this accelerated onboarding process, We will be having this infinite shelf in the next month. So in another 2 or 3 months, we'll have an assortment without owing other players anything. When it comes to food, well, Eric, me and Pagilo, we already went to the Through the food sector, we know about the challenges in operating with perishable goods, for example. So at this moment, we are not looking at the food sector. We think that there's a risk in worsening our services. But circumstantially, this does not mean that we won't look at this. And I think that instead of us doing this directly, we do not plan We don't have the ego of wanting to do everything. So we really believe in partnerships, who knows, in the nearby future we can have some partnerships. And then it's just about plugging into the ecosystem and from night to day you'll have the necessary assortment and portfolio. So we don't see a challenge, but it's not a priority At the moment, we do believe that there are many other intelligent ways and less risky ways to work with consumers to be able to win over recurrence. And that's what everyone is searching for. At the end of the day, we consider this something very important. In the next month, we will have something that's very disruptive. And we believe that this will add on a lot of value and new business Tuniu, I can't mention this exactly at this moment, but we believe that there are other ways that are more efficient for our business model here to bring in recurrence. Now when it comes to inventory, certainly we finished the year with an inventory at a very relevant level due to the lack of supply scenario. But the good news is that we still have a good inventory. Of course, there are some problems with supply in some categories. But in our case here, we do not have any situation that generates a direct impact on our sales. What could happen is that maybe inside one category, for example, we'll have 10 models, we'll have 8 instead. But we would not in any way lack supplies for any of our categories. So we have been moving on with significant growth in the 2 months of the Q1, and we are still and gaining share. And it's important to mention that we are gaining share and our market share measurement is with by GfK, which are the tools that basically can study everyone in the market. We it's important to mention that we don't exchange data with EBIT Nielsen. So whoever is using EBIT Nielsen to compare is comparing with their own sales because there's very few retailers in this platform. We are one of the biggest in the 1P segment. We are not in this platform. We could be in the future, but currently we're not. So we're using Compricofing and GfK, which everyone is operating with. We're going to move on now with the question from Richard. Please you may move on. I have another question about logistics. You demonstrated some relevant advances in the release, mentioning about up to 60% of the deliveries in investing more. So I wanted to understand how much this represents in your business and how important this is to you. And what you guys are expecting or how you guys imagine this in regards to free transportation, free freight costs and with regards to the marketplace as this gains scale throughout this year? Well, thank you for this question. In regards to free freight, yes, we are monitoring what's happening. This has been working Ever since the Q4, this is basically giving us 0 impact in our sales. So we are growing and we continue to gain market share. We're not having impact. It's not impacting our business. What happens with the free freight costs from competitors? If we're going to do something like this in the marketplace, so like free shipping, if there's someone with the capacity to do this with very low cost, It's us, right? Because we already have the network all over Brazil. So just adding on more stuff into this network and optimizing it more. So adding more stuff into this is going to lead to relatively cheap marginal costs. So we're going to keep up in June, but we're going to make money here. If it's not necessary, we won't do it. But if necessary, we have the logistical network to do this and other attributes that I've already mentioned, for example, to make money in the marketplace. Once again, I think it's important that Via Varejo as a marketplace is not a plan or a dream. It already became a reality. We are already active in marketplace. We are growing strongly now in this semester in the marketplace. And as we add on more sellers and the sellers enter this ecosystem, we will earn a lot more depth. Another important point is that we are very passionate with our service. It's in our DNA to work with our customers and sellers for us, are not retailers. They're clients. And they need to be very well serviced and there needs to be an ecosystem working for them and that's what they're going to have here. So they will have all of the Varejo Eco System with over 20,000 salespeople through the Michelino Zappi selling for them. So I think no one in the market It has this kind of possibility currently with the strength we have through the Michama Nozape, just check out the numbers that this already represents. So our logistical structure will be available. They'll have their our payment booklet and all of the traffic We already have and our 20,000 sales people working on the marketplace as well. So We have a trend and the relationship we want to build with the seller, which is different than the purely commercial relationship in the market. We want to really build a relationship where the seller is our customer. So We have many possibilities for success without having to Throw away so much money as the market has been recently. I just wanted to add on to Huberta's answer. We in the presentation, we Presented the Michelle Manozafi participation, but this is the general participation. So it's also Anticipating in the marketplace, we didn't strategically disclose share, but I could mention that it is very Relevant, so the online salesperson that also sold about RMB2.8 billion in 2020 also sold the marketplace and it's already relevant. So we have an ecosystem that is very interesting And we have many differentials here, available to really enter the marketplace with a lot of strength. Great. If I could maybe just have some quick follow-up about the marketplace. You mentioned in your presentation that this year you're going to be winning over the marketplace game. But what are the metrics that we should consider throughout the years? Is this purely growth? Is it GMV, the number of sellers or a combination maybe of everything? I think it's a combination of all of this, Richard. What really interests us at the end of the day is GMV and the recurrence that this is going to add on to our business. So the number of sellers is just a consequence. Maybe with 30,000 sellers, we can already have this, maybe with 80,000. It's really going to depend. We're going to assess it as we escalate and with the amount and the salaries that are most important for us and our ecosystem. So I think it's a set of factors that will define our success rate at the end of the year. We move on with the video question of Tobias Stingling. You may proceed. Hello, Roberto, Danny and Patrigo. Congratulations for the results. It was an impressive year, but Now let's shift a bit and talk about physical retail. So where are we at when it comes to the turnaround of the physical retail? It was very clear to see that you wanted to stabilize e commerce and you focused on 1P. P. But now have you guys already talked about closing 100 stores, but you're opening 120? Well, I want to understand these main variables and how you are considering physical retail? That's the first question. And then the second one, if I could mention, is if anyone falls in a parachute, they look at this sector, they're going to think it's successful because the number of sales in the market are very strong, but that doesn't it's not in line with the economy. Of course, we had the pandemic. We had some shifts Then Habit, you guys even talked about corona voucher was also relevant. But these growth in market share, who do they come from? You don't need to give me a specific number, but how can we understand because I imagine that the market as a whole is not growing as much as your number. So if you could give us some context like, oh, the market is growing 5% and we're growing this much because it's very significant. Thank you very much. Hi, Tobias. I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, just because my camera is not appearing. I'm so sorry. For some reason, my camera So let's start off by the physical stores, right? So I'd say that, For example, we had some Basic renovation work in all of them, we've already corrected them and this took place in the 1st 6 to 8 months of our management. We understood when the Michel Anozate started that we could Start maybe solving some aspects of the number of stores. So we announced about up to 100 stores. We closed 30. We shouldn't reach those 100. We are renegotiating some contracts for rentals with basically all of the stores and we've been very successful in this. So there's some stores we were going to close, but when we're able to see such a reduction, it doesn't make sense. So in this aspect, maybe there's another 30 or 40 stores and is balanced. So with that, we should still close. We went back to the expansion plan. The company had stopped the expansion of the pandemic. So we have 120 stores this year, 15 we've already launched. We'll add on a lot to the North and Northeast This is pure sales market share because these are markets where we're not present yet. And the good news is that these stores we launched at 40% higher productivity compared to the other stores we already have. So we're very precise. We had some competitors that were swimming on their own. Now that's done. Traditionally, we sell 2x more than competition. And we're not going to give this up. We're going to continue to search for this. So I could say that physical stores, We have a turnaround done, but of course, the physical store we have currently is not behind when compared to the other stores. But we have a plan for normal renovation work that's like maintenance. And we as we perform more maintenance, already add on this is already included into the new standards. And as we perform the more intense renovation work, we adjust stores to the new standards. Another important piece of information at the store is not only a store, but 100% of our stores Our pickup from store point, this is a huge differential. So customers can buy and pick up in up to 2 hours because of the credit card approval process, because the item is available As soon as they buy it, so when they buy it and they approve their credit, their invoice is already ready. And all of our stores are logistical last mile hub, so we have a lot more productivity in the stores. It's not only the sale, but everything that it represents when it comes to service levels together. So just one more point. I remember in the beginning, you guys were saying, hey, let's Go back to retailing, right, you have to shift to the managers of the store, like, oh, let's stabilize BMI. Is all of that pretty much solved? Is your Team set up, are you already training new people? I know that there's other elements that were a little more intangible, but also very important. So, I jumped this because this is 100% solved. We already have the team we want. It's a real good team. Of course, I'm the CEO of the company, but we have our sales team is definitely the best in the market, And we have the same level of success in our services online as well. So this is the real show that they're demonstrating on the Mishamanozapi call me on WhatsApp with this program. This started in the beginning of the pandemic and if you were to consider just the last We had $1,000,000,000 in sales. So people are really very successful. Our sales team is already 100% digital. BMI is also completely stable. We have mobile in the hands of all of the sales team And they finalized the sale and also the payment booklet in mobile due to the fact that credit approval It normally doesn't have a human interaction. So everything is transactioning in the hands of the sales team. So is there more room for growth and improvements? Yes, constant improvement. We have lots to do, but the basics are completely already, and we're adding on some improvements that can continue to move us to higher levels compared to the market. Now about market share, I did demonstrate there in the graph that we are growing 2x above market level. So this is the reality. It's the number as it is. And if we look at JFK, it's higher than this. So We're basically robbing share from everyone. You been following us ever since the beginning. And now we really went back to Varejoando, the term, which is basically in all of the segments we want to be retailing, right? So we're winning our share in the full market, And I can't tell you exactly who's losing share. I think that the disclosures The subsequent disclosures will help us understand this, but some small regional players are having more difficulty as well as people that depend on our categories. And their marketplaces are also suffering more because we're very precise with industry. We have big players in our segment also suffering. We're winning over some share, and there's some areas where these players were basically on their own. And now we're reaching this point with online operations and with the stores. So I could say that there is an important mix. If we were to consider the JFK numbers in the last year, see that there's no growth. You can see that there's major risks that the market was considering of possible anticipation and consumption due to the sale that was being done. But when you look at the numbers for the full year, you won't see any kind of anticipation in consumption. Growth was pretty much non existent. And what we can see is that we did certainly grow and we are continuing to gain market share. Great. So two last questions. The same market data, do you have this for January February? What is JFK saying? Are they saying that it grew or didn't grow? With Compre and Confie, I don't remember this, but I It appears that we have the same trend in market share gains that we've been having. I don't have this number exactly. I could maybe send this later on. But it's pretty much at the same rhythm as last year. Okay. And the last question. You said you have 15,000 sellers and you're doing the onboarding every 3 minutes, but you have a concern also with controlling who enters. So how can you do this? How can I go in in 3 minutes and you can still control this? And you're saying that 50% already is INBIA? Yes, they're already using Envios. And we just launched 1 week ago the Envios Colleta, which is still a small number. We just launched it, but it's going to be ramping up very quickly. So what we had said we were going to be unleashing, we certainly did. So now we have a whole different company and this is already the reality. Now about the control of processes, All of the onboarding work is done in 3 minutes and then they register items. And at the same time, while this is happening, a lot of robots and AI working and performing this kind of control. So I'm not going to give you complete details about How we do this? I think there's also some of our business secrets, but there's intense control because one of the most assets important assets for us is our brand and we don't want to risk it. Now we'll move on to the question from Olivia Petronello. Please you may move on. Hello. Good afternoon. Thank you for my question accepting my question. I have two questions. First of all, Wanted to continue to discuss the 1P aspects of our online. You made it clear that the idea is to grow in the marketplace, But I want to understand how we should consider the 1P assortment because we saw a lot of players giving up part of their assortment at 1P to transfer this to 3P. So How do you balance this growth in both platforms up ahead? And the second question Still in regards to the service level, we see the service level is really high and the Hekla Miyake level from your sellers. So you have a factor here, So it sounds a little bigger and more professionalized. But I think I want to understand where you have this gap and the service level with them on Heikoi Meki and your own level of service as well. So is there still stuff that we need to adjust the operation of 1P. And the final question is about Banqui. We see significant results in regards to the payment booklet. And I want to understand if you guys have more is now in the short term, in regards to most recurring use such as the wallet and how we can maybe accelerate this? Thank you, Olivia, for your question. Well, about the composition between 1P and 3P, Obviously, we make more money when the item is in our 1P. We're not going to give up profitability just to have growth in 3P and then make the market happier with this. What we do have is that we have a lot of industries, And we basically have like the full operation. So when the item becomes extremely relevant and we understand that it makes sense to have this item in 1P. We migrated from 3P to 1P Because at the end of the day, what we believe in is that what's sustainable about this whole business is that the marketplace does definitely add on a major possibility to improve the recurrence considering the expanded assortment. But if it's going to be transitioning between 1P P03P, that's indifferent. What's important is that we want to ensure an assortment and a recurrence. So if we consider this is indifferent in the long run, Someone will reach the conclusion that it's the obligation to have a marketplace that is functional and what's worth is really the sum of both and the recurrence of the customers they're able to conquer. So we're always going to value What provides more profitability to the company? That's what we're going to be valuing, and I think that's more sustainable for the company's health in the long run. Now about the service level, if I understood correctly, you were talking a bit about our gap in regards to competition. Is that it? Yes, and with the sellers in the marketplace. Yes, compared to marketplace and your own 1 piece, so I thought your numbers were very interesting. I understand now that you guys have more professionalized history than you have in the other marketplaces, but I wanted to understand where the service gap comes Well, we improved basically everything. We reinvented all of the processes in this company. So it was a turnaround that was definitely very complete. When we came here, we Had a lot of little faces on the Hekonequi. And we started off January 2020 with some of these little yellow faces. And now we don't have any more. Baixita is already very strong and all of the other ones as well are above 7%. And we've seen some important Progress month by month. So if we were to consider in the last 12 months and the volume of complaints in Hikamaiki, Our brands do not at any moment overcome the number of complaints in our from our competitors. All of them have more complaints than we did. So we had a problem there with the solution, but this is solved. The maximum time for solutions of critical cases are between 2 3 days, but most of the cases have a solution that is basically immediate. So that's what has been contributing to this improvement. So we should see throughout this year Some continuity in the improvements of our index and all of our brands moving along to their maximum level of assessment. And just to your last question about Banqui. Yes, it has been evolving and growing. We're very happy with it. It already has more than BRL 2,000,000,000 managed, And customers are already using Benqi to pay for their payment booklet. The arrival of PIKs was very positive for Benqi. So while we consider the TPV from PIKs is not very high and it's already a complete platform really for Class D when it comes to user friendliness and payment methods. But now what we are working on at the End of the Q3 and the beginning of the first, we are already starting to have personal loans and that's when we see major differentials because we're going to have the acquisition cost trending to like 0. So it becomes very cheap to acquire customers as well. They already have a financial relationship with us for quite a while. And we have over 30,000,000 customers from the payment booklet where we have their full profile. As we evolve with the number of customers, and this has been growing month by month with a continuous approach. And we start to also have some personal loans Using the credit modems we already have and the knowledge we already have about this consumer, this which should be extremely precise when it comes to low default. We're going to start having more greater potential with Benqi. So in our next call, we should have Via Varejo Day in April, And Benqi will be a specific part of the call where we will have a separate topic of discussion To talk about Benqi because it's really a unique case, And we're going to be we're going to have one of the most powerful FinTechs in Class C here in Brazil. The next question is also coming video from Gustavo de Vera. Hello, good afternoon. Thank you for your question. I have two questions. One, if you guys could still explain the benefits of fixed to end this operation and how this has been impacting European now? And also If you maybe if you get to know your customers better with this data and it's really significant, 11% adoption is very significant. And the Second question still about profitability. Very clear that you guys are very confident in regards to OpEx, logistics, marketing. As you've mentioned, you've really reinvented the platform and you're a lot more confident. But How are you imagining possible gross margin expressions in the business due to greater competitiveness or devaluation in the currency and all the variables that could be impacting your business in 2021? Well, thank you, Gustavo. Great question. But about PIX, it's Purchase and recurrence moment is very significant. And then customers don't have any cost. So It basically increased and has been increasing the use of our System. So it really added on and leveraged everything we already wanted to do in Benqi. So we started together with the launch of the PIX. And we've been concrete some important fruits. So it really helps in many different ways with the recurrence. As we begin to have personal loans And customers start using this balance, we are going to be present in their day to day relationships. So That need to have recurrence with customers, Benqi will already Give us a daily update with these consumers about their recurrence with the payment booklet. So Customers will have like 12 to 14 months of returns with us. And just as We can see some important elements to come into our brands in the next month. With Benqi, there's a good step up ahead. And so our marketplace for Benqi is going to be active. And certainly, we will be building a recurrence ecosystem on Benqi as well. And then we'll have one brand leveraging the other, and that's pretty much our road map. So we have a full call just to talk about everything related to the road map. And we're going to approach this Day in April. So about the gross margin, we well, the market's pretty intense already. The Q4 was very competitive. The first quarter is also very competitive, and we have been supporting and sustaining our margin level. So I think that these margin levels that we're seeing, we believe are going to be sustainable for the company. And we already have 50% of our sales online. So the margin pressure is already presented. And this is pretty much what we have. So we would not be able to have this margin composition. But we aren't really seeing any kind of event That would pressure us more than what we're expected or used to. So we've been able to use all of our intelligence to be able to really handled these issues. And also, increases, we already transferred some of the price increases. So What was considered was cost increases already reflected to the final consumer and we're still selling. I can't tell you exactly what was the level of the price increases because that's within our commercial strategy, but We don't have anything locked here. So whatever we already received is already transferred, and we have our price in reais, so there's no dollar risk. And eventually, if there is any kind of variation, we're going to sit down with the industry, negotiate and, of course, transfer this to the final consumer costs. So do you have any kind of hedge for 2021? Well, Yes, I have some orders placed for like 100% of the year in the main industries that we relate with. So In October last year, we already defined the purchase for the full year. So when I mentioned that huge increased. We consider that well, basically, Someone asked us once why other guys aren't able to do it. Well, that's because the volume I carry in the industry have we have some categories that have about 40% debt. So industry starts off about 40% of the production sold. So industry has significant benefits in this. And they know that what we can decide on, we will implement. So we have the necessary logistical capacity to support this, and this is a huge differential. So we see some competitors that have some problems with the Day to day operations, we don't have this. We have the necessary logistical capacity. And this kind of differential, We also have it's also reciprocal in regards to everything that happened in the price variation. And so the hedge I have is that I've already negotiated it through the whole year. So eventually, we might have to sit down and talk about this, but I'm starting off with a business that's already been defined with a major following. Thank you. That's clear. Thank you, Gustavo. Now we're going to move on to Bob Ford. Thank you very much and congratulations on those results, Roberto. And thank you for answering my question. Roberto, do you think you could give me an update on how you have been developing in the dry grocery and consumer product categories and how important this is in regards to strategy and your frequency. And when you're talking about new stores, Do you think that the performance caused by the is caused by the lack of competition or that the performances leveraged due to greater functionality in the North and Northeast. And how does it shift your CapEx plan for the current base of stores you have? Okay. Bobby, thank you for your question. I'm going to start off by the stores. The greater productivity that we've had It's not because we don't have competition. It's just because we have a very unique operation. So when we look at our average income of store First is the average income in the market. We see this productivity. We operate better. Logistical operation is also very unique, and it also helps Dilavriixis, our payment booklet also helps us. And so all of this debt, as it's ecosystem We have here at Via Varejo really helps us with this advantage. And our team our sales team is really unique, and this is a major And now we have the success of also having this online. So this 20,000 sales people team albeit came online. So these are competitive advantages that the company carries because it operates better than the average market in these items I mentioned. So As I launch a store in the north, for example, in a market that we haven't been in before, I already become a recognized brand. There, we're already top of mind in the consumer's mind because the company discloses Brazil during over 30 years. So this image is already set up. We reached the consumer and they said, hey, you guys finally made it. So it's a very different relationship. And actually, when the opening of the physical store is also leveraging online sales, so We have a very important set there. And in markets we've already entered, we already had Michamanozapi working well. We already have some relevance in the market through the Michamanozapi. And then we opened up the physical store, And we have important sales, and Online is also selling a lot better. So I think that this set, Bobby, of attributes here is important to consider. So in regards to the CapEx, we will be opening about 120 stores this year, 15 were already open. And besides these 120 stores, we have room for another 200 stores in these markets that are close to where we're already headed. So we have a road map for store openings that is going to be followed for the next year. And we have room for expansion in the physical stores with the advantage now that the physical stores are not just stores that are selling, they're also logistics. And maybe in the North and the Northeast, Bob, we have 150 stores, and we have a potential to double the number of stores Our main competitor has doubled the amount of stores as we have in that region. And it's important to mention that these new stores Also have product line of furniture that's also really unique. So If you add up all the next four positions in the market, they won't add up to our numbers. And this is really contributing to our sales on the payment booklet. So it's a really important set of profitability, and the new stores are going to help increase the profitability of the company. Well, it's also important to highlight that online sales in Brazil is between 10% to 12% of the population buys online. So we have like 88% of people that don't buy online, and we do through the online sales team and Bring this volume of people into the online environment as well, and then we can be their 1st online experience. So The first experience we'll never forget, right? So we want to we have the chance to really make them loyal at this first experience. And the question about the non perishables and how we can add so Other products, right? Well, non perishable goods, we can already we are already selling, And we're going to reinforce these categories if you can make sense. These categories add on to recurrence, But our only concern is with perishable goods because we think that one thing is if you delay half an hour in the delivery of the refrigerator, But the other thing is if you delay half an hour into items that they're going to use for their lunch. So since we have logistical complexity And logistics are very expensive. We believe that there may be more efficient ways of doing this and being recurrent Among our customers, the non perishables are really what we're going to be intensifying. So we see this trend at the onboarding of services. Roberto, are you satisfied with this variety of the consumer goods? And how are you Gearing this category, please. Well, we're not satisfied, Bob. And I think There's we should be adding on more sellers to be able to have a better assortment. And this was our limitation. So then, So now in about 2 or 3 months, I'll have the amount of sellers I need to be able to provide the variety we want to offer. So we're going to be solving just in February, we added on 1,000,000 new SKUs in the platform. And just this month of March, we may be working on the onboard that we're not able to do. So we're going to win over the level of assortment that we consider to be ideal. But you imagine this would be outsourced category? Well, Some items, Bobby, we can maybe operate with some items through 1P. We already have, for example, diapers. It's being operated through 1P. It's not food, but it's like considered a supermarket item for hygiene and cleaning. So some items We could eventually operate through 1P. But then now, since we already have a logistical platform working for the Cellar. And for the pickup process, I could operate it through 3P, but I could have all the logistics and make it arrive with our speed and quality. So we're going to be making these decisions according to how the Process evolves, but there are some items that we want to use on 1P. Our next question will be read by Daniela. So we have two questions. One is if we could discuss the main initiatives to leverage the furniture and mattress category online? And the second one is how We have been able to bring the higher income customers. We should maybe mention We had important presence and growth of the customers with higher income throughout the last year, and it was more significant in the Q4. So I think that from the moment, one of these customers are operating online and we have a service level It's almost excellent. There's no reason why our brands never had rejection levels. So if our quality is very good with the assortment, then and we're very competitive online, And our platform is already basically all redone and has its usability very efficient. Now we deliver quickly. We have all the necessary attributes that this level and society is searching for. There's no reason why they wouldn't buy with us. And here's a bit of what this represents. So our share in iPhone sales in Brazil is more than half Of all the iPhones that are sold in Brazil were sold through our brands, through the Via Financial brand. So We have a significant share in the industry in greater added value items, whether This is because of a greater access to Class C through the payment booklet or because we're offering these to A and B class. So we have brands that are extremely democratic at Via Varejo. And I think that now they're even more democratic. All of the different social levels can interact with this company, and this is a big differential where we bring from the management level and negotiation level we have with the industry connected to all of the turnarounds in the company and all of the service levels have also improved significantly. So in regards to online furniture, I have some good news. It's going extremely well. It's probably one of the main categories for online. I don't want to say where it's at So I don't want to give my competitors information, but there's already a significant positioning in the ranking of online participation. And that's excellent news for us because we have the biggest volume of furniture in the market. Baerti is the biggest furniture factory in Latin America, and we have infinite growth in the furniture sector because we have the biggest capacity to supply furniture. So while we did have major difficulties in supplying Furniture at the moment in the last quarter, for example, at the beginning of this year, we had a factory at our disposal. And with a lot of efficiency, we're able to anticipate the negotiation of the wood to be able to produce the furniture and that we didn't Suffer as much with this lack of supplies, but I think that our online case for furniture is already Via Varejo. We're already the biggest sales company for Furniture. So Here, you have all the user ability and all the modifications that really facilitated posing and promoting furniture and then we move on to continued evolution and there's a lot to be done to add on even more to the sales of furniture. So furniture bring the payment booklet together And this payment book is functional. We're already offering it to many different consumers. And this set of elements will generate a lot more of a differential also for furniture online. So the next question is coming from a participant that's connected by phone Biavarejo. Just two more questions quickly. First, from the online deliveries that arrive at the consumer's house, I think it's very clear that you guys have a competitive advantage through the network of stores you guys have and distribution centers. But I wanted to Stand from those deliveries that really arrive at the consumers' door where they're not going to pick up from store. What's the share of deliveries that come directly from the distribution centers from you guys? And which Are you going to be operating through the stores through the inventories or through the trucks that are going to go all the way to the store And that leaves it there for the last mile. So that's the first question. The second question is, If you could maybe give us the CapEx that you guys are considering for this year. I think it was very clear that you guys are considering a number of stores, but just maybe in numbers maybe How much you guys feel you're going to be spending on CapEx? Well, thank you for your question. In regards to the online delivery, about half of our deliveries already use our stores as logistical hubs. So that's why there's so much importance in having this asset that we have, which gives us a significant advantage. Now I just want to reinforce one point that we are in the first version of the same day delivery software during the 1st semester. We have another 2 versions. They are not in all of the stores. It already represents 15% of the total Deliveries online and as I already mentioned in the Q3, we're going to be prepared to discuss the same hour delivery. So We are going to be profiling deliveries as soon as consumers confirm orders. In about an hour, they will receive the items at home. So we have the necessary investment levels for this. In Technologies, we have all the assets for this. Another important part of the information is that we We're going to be starting off during the end of March as we look to ESG. I'm really happy to upload the report together with the results. So we're going to be launching by the end of March with some Deliveries in electric vehicles as well. And this is very important as we consider all of the Best practices and improvements in the environment, and we're already starting off in the month of March with deliveries with some electric vehicles. And Now about CapEx, I don't think I can provide this guidance. Danny will kick me here If I say this, but it is significantly greater than last year, and we will provide about 60% of this CapEx into technology. So we have significant process of acceleration. We already have an important shift that gives us the necessary conditions to do all of this. And I think we have an important trend that's happening month by month. That gives us a chance to not be the same as the market, but to see that this combined technology will make us even better than what we have at the market. So of course, the market is continuing to evolve, but we need to be quicker to evolve quicker than the market. All right. Thank you. At this moment, we finished our session of Q and A. I'll pass on the word to Roberto for his final comments. All right. Well, first of all, I want to thank you all for having been here. We really evolved, And we tried to make the call very quick, so we could have more time for Q and A to clarify all of your questions. I would Like it that all of you could be sure that it's not Via Varejo in the future. Via Varejo is already online. We're already the future. So we had a lot of questions if we would survive the pandemic, would we come online and survived, had very significant follow on work and companies already online. And it's important because we have about 6 quarters where we've been promising and delivering things. So it's important to Notice the consistency of what we're promising, what we're delivering. I don't think we've failed so far. And I am sure that we're going to be shifting the gain in the marketplace this year. This is already happening. It's already a reality. And I think that What's happening now with the company's increase in value is not in line with the actual value of the company, but that doesn't depend on us. But we need to work hard and deliver excellent results, and this is what we're going to continue to do. And we have the expectation that all of your analysts and investors will start to have Greater comprehension about the main differentials that this company has and how this How they are the one of the biggest candidates to be in the top of the game here online physical and through our FinTech bank, which is already growing in an accelerated manner. So thank you very much. I hope you guys are well and healthy. Thank you all.