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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

May 10, 2024

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Morning to everyone. Welcome to one more presentation of results of the CPFL Energy Group. We're going to talk about the first quarter of 2024. I'm Carlos Cyrino, Director of Investor Relations of the CPFL Group, and today I'm going to be the master of ceremonies of our event. We have Gustavo Estrella, CEO, Mr. Pan, our CFO, and other executives of the company. The whole presentation will be carried out in Portuguese with interpretation to English. All you have to do is click on the button "Interpretation" at the bottom of the screen of our platform. If you want to see the presentation in English, it's on the site of CPFL Energy. I'd also like to inform all the participants that at the end of the presentation we will start the questions and answers.

All the questions will be done live, and to request it, all you have to do is click on the button "Raise Hands," which is also at the bottom part of the platform. I remind you that this event is being recorded. Now I'm going to give the floor to Gustavo Estrella to start the presentation of the results.

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Cyrino. Good morning to everyone.

Thank you for being here and the presentation of our call. I can't start talking about results before talking about the situation in Rio Grande do Sul, an extreme climatic event that we've had since last week. The rain is continuing, and it has affected our operations down south. I believe that our focus now is not only to reestablish our operations and normalize things, but especially together with the government, that we can support the people that are stranded. We still have a lot of people under risk, and we've been doing everything that we can to save people in this operation. In relation to our business, I think talking a little bit of generation, we had an event last week which was a dam of the 14th of July dam. It was partial. We didn't have the exact dimension, and right after that, it was a huge challenge.

We had to go by helicopter. The team had to go down on cords just to be able to open the level of the gates of the dam. We were able to do this, and now we have a better idea of this dam and what we have today. And here we have good news. The structure of the dam has been preserved. It was a rupture of the top part, so it's a more positive perspective of reestablishing this dam at a short term. We have three plants: Castro Alves, Monte Claro, and 14 de Julho. What we have today, Castro Alves, is now operating again with 130 MW of capacity, a lot of water. It's operating at full capacity. And also the challenges of 14 de Julho of rebuilding our transmission line.

Our towers were lost due to the flooding, and also the access to the plant by road. We now have the rebuilding of the accesses. And also, as I mentioned, what happened to the dam was actually less serious than what we imagined in the beginning. In the case of Monte Claro, the recovery of the energy also with a perspective, I would say, in the next few months. So in general, we're back to operating, and we hope that in the next few months we will normalize. We're mobilizing our teams so that we can advance and bring back normality for the whole complex. When we talk about transmission today, a situation similar to distribution, a series of lines that are still flooded. Unfortunately, it's raining again, so we still have a perspective of rain.

In the weekend, we have a series of lines that are flooded, and due to this, they are turned off for security. We had eight substations affected. Four have recovered, and 29 transmission lines. We've recovered 13. An important data is that, in general, the load has been remaneuvered, so there's no lack of energy due to the transmission lines. Of course, what we have is a contingency operation with less lines available, but the process of operation is a bit more normal. When we look at distribution, we had over 300,000 clients turned off. Today, we have 160,000, so 5% of the total of the clients of RGE with no energy. The majority also turned off due to security reasons. We have a lot of our networks submerged and flooded. And as the water level decreases, we're able to reconnect.

Obviously, there's always a risk to see what type of equipment has to be repaired or has to be substituted, but in general, they're preserved, and we hope that we will be able to uptake our operations in a quick manner. Obviously, there's some areas, Vale do Sinos, Vale do Taquari, that go through the city, very much affected. There will be a rebuilding not only of the network but the region as a whole, the infrastructure, the houses. So for these more affected areas, we will have a slower uptake than the rest of the city. So this is the panorama that we have today. I think it is an event that we have never had in this state of Rio Grande do Sul. A lot of floods, a lot of rain for a long time.

The water hasn't gone down yet, and we have a forecast of more rain during the next three or four days, so we continue in a state of attention. I'd also like to register the cooperation that we've received of the Ministry of Mines and Energy, ANEEL. Our colleagues of the distribution sector, help from several distributors, Cemig, made available a helicopter immediately to help us to monitor and also to save people. We also had help from Celesc and all the others who made themselves available. Within our group, we have today over 100 electricians from CPFL Paulista and CPFL Piratininga available to RGE. As soon as the water goes down, we'll be able to accelerate the process of reconnecting. So this process of cooperation has been fundamental, first to prepare RGE so that in a small period of time, we'll be able to reconnect our clients.

Well, having said all this, we can go more into detail in the questions and answers, but now I'm going to talk about the results of our quarter, a positive result. We have here one more quarter with positive impacts, with a growth of 5.1% once more led by the residential and commercial classes due to high temperatures. And this brought to us an EBITDA of BRL 3.9 million, a growth of 9.5% compared to last year, and a profit of BRL 1.7 million and growth of 6.3% in relation to 2023. Our net debt is BRL 25.6 billion, with a leverage of 1.93x EBITDA following the criteria of our financial covenants. A few recognitions that are important: the ANEEL Prize of Customer Satisfaction. CPFL Santa Cruz was recognized as the third distributor and RGE, as the first place in the South Region. We also had some highlights.

Among the 12 companies that got a reward, Best in Management Award, we had important recognition with Piratininga, Santa Cruz, Paulista, and RGE. In the ESG, it's just been publicized as excellent news. Important recognition of our ESG. We're in the second place in the general ranking and the best in the utility sector. So all the effort that the company has been doing, I think this is important recognition. In ESG, here also about ESG, more diversity on our board. Yesterday, Cláudia Elisa, our new independent consultant, she participated in the board meeting. So together with our other consultant, there are two women that we have in our administrative council. Now let's move towards the next slide. Let's talk about sales. As I said, it's a growth of 5.1 in growth.

In our concession area, we can see the table on the right side, a highlight for the residential area with a growth of 11.4%, commercial with a growth of 10%. We can see that the effect of temperature is important, 4.1 residential and 5.4 in commercial, but it doesn't totally explain the good performance of these classes. We can see the macro and others expressive growth in these two classes, which shows us this is a trend that we've been observing from the last semester. It is a change of consumer habits, and this brings structural consumption long-term in these two classes, which is good news, with more usage of electrical equipment, and we see a per capita growth beyond the effect of the temperature, and it continues for the next quarters as well.

Another important number, and this is a new effect, is the growth of the industrial class, a growth of 2.2%, and this demonstrates to us the beginning of an uptake of increase of consumption of the industrial class. This trend has been confirming itself not only in the first quarter but also April and the beginning of May, and this shows a trend of increase of industrial consumption, and we hope in the next quarters this will also take place. This is the next slide, distribution, delinquency, and losses. These two topics, which for the next months, of course, will be the focus of attention. We see the increase of delinquency reaching 1.2% growth when we compare going from 0.9%-1.22%. We have to pay attention.

We have the negative impact due to these climate events, the reduction of we can see here a drop of 15.9 of power cuts. And of course, in moments where we're living now in South, we don't do power cuts because this is also going to impact delinquency. And we also have an increase of some consumption, nominal value, with a higher bill. We have a predisposition of delinquency and also energy fraud. This explains part of the increase of loss that went from 8.44% to 8.84%. So 0.4% explained by this increase of the volume of bills and also a mathematical effect. We have a concentration of market growth, low tension, and these are the classes that have elevated commercial losses. So since we increase the participation of these two classes, this brings a reflex in the total losses as well.

We have a challenge here, Santa Cruz and RGE, regulatory losses, and our focus is more concentrated in Paulista and Piratininga. Now here we have the generation performance. We have the PLD of BRL 61. We started the year very negative, the hydrology negative. It's improved in the next two months. This expectation for May is 93%, and we know that the challenge is that this is very concentrated in the Southern region and low in the South, North, and Northeast. But in general, we have a more positive scenario and consequently lower levels of price than those that were expected in the beginning of the year. In the wind farms, we have a low generation with a bad, negative performance of wind in this beginning of the year. You can see at the lower left-hand corner the difference of our real generation, and it's very small.

So we had low restriction. We had a very bad performance of winds without ONS restriction. So with this, we will have more cuts coming from ONS, and then we have the regulatory challenge, how to deal with this impact on the wind farms, not only on CPFL but the sector in general. Now let's move to the next slide. I'm going to give the floor to Mr. Pan, and he's going to tell us the results.

Yuehui Pan
CFO, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Gustavo. Going to the slide of results. This quarter, we reached an EBITDA of BRL 3.9 billion, an increase of 9.5%. All the segments presented an increase. Let's talk a little bit about each one of them. Next slide. Once more, the distribution segment had a good performance with an EBITDA of BRL 2.5 billion, an increase of 9%. The highest gain came from the market and tariffs, BRL 352 million. The update of the financial asset of the concession had an increase of BRL 23 million due to the larger base of assets after the tariff revision reports last year. The other items increased BRL 8 million. We also had a reduction of BRL 3 million in the expenses with PMSO and pension funds.

On the other hand, we had, in the first quarter of 2023, the impact of the final report of the asset base of CPFL Paulista, and the amount was BRL 136 million, an extraordinary effect. PDD had an increase of BRL 41 million, as Gustavo has already shown us. In the next slide, we have the effects of generation. This segment reached BRL 950 million EBITDA, an increase of 2%. This result is explained due to an extraordinary effect in the adjustment and the just investment value of BRL 56 million. The readjustment of the contract prices helped with BRL 90 million, and other effects totaled a gain of BRL 12 million. The performance of the wind farms presented a reduction of BRL 66 million due to the weaker winds and the ONS restrictions. PMSO and sectorial taxes were stable with an increase of BRL 3 million. In the next slide, we have the transmission segment.

EBITDA IFRS reached the value of BRL 256 million, an increase of BRL 27 million, with an increase of margin of BRL 15 million, which is a fruit of the investments that we're carrying out and the reduction of the PMSO in BRL 12 million. The regulatory EBITDA was of BRL 253 million, an increase of BRL 76 million, especially due to the increase of the net revenue in BRL 52 million due to the readjustment of contracts. The PMSO dropped BRL 22 million, and in the end, we had BRL 2 million of others. The segment of trading, services, and others had an EBITDA of BRL 118 million, an improvement of BRL 81 million, especially due to the recovery of the margin of CPFL Brasil with a gain of BRL 44.5 million. The service segment had an increase of BRL 38 million during the period, especially CPFL Services and Alesta.

In the next slide, we show the performance of the net profit, which was BRL 1.7 billion during the period, an increase of 6.3%. Financial results, we had a worsening of BRL 265 million, especially due to the reduction of the MTM of BRL 224 million, which is explained due to the behavior of the risk spread curve, which went up last year and decreased in the recent period in 2024, and the lower update of the regulatory assets of BRL 148 million. These effects were compensated by lower expenses with a net debt of BRL 73 million, explained by the reduction of the CDI in the IPCA, an increase of BRL 35 million in moratorium fines, and the depreciation increased BRL 26 million and taxes, a reduction of BRL 61 million. The next slide, we have the net debt and the covenant criteria, which reached BRL 25.6 billion. The EBITDA in the last 12 months was BRL 13.2 billion.

So therefore, we ended the quarter with a leverage measured by the net debt versus EBITDA of 1.93x. In the next slide, we have the nominal cost of the debt, which is 11.1%, maintaining a route of reduction with the drop of the IPCA and Selic. Right below, we have the profile of the gross debt, larger exposure in CDI, 80% followed by 19% IPCA and 1% TJLP. On the right side, we show you the amortization of the debt. Our final cash position in the first quarter was BRL 5.4 billion with more than sufficient coverage for the short-term amortizations. The medium time frame of the debt is 3.4 years. Talking about CapEx, during the period, we had an increase of 1.1% in relation to the same period in 2023, with an investment of BRL 1.1 billion.

In division per segment, we had in distribution a total of BRL 920 million invested, in generation, BRL 50 million, and in transmission, we add BRL 104 million. The investments in the other segments were a total of BRL 20 million. Thank you. And now I'm going to give the floor back to Gustavo Estrella.

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Pan. Well, finalizing our presentation. We have this important recognition in our ESG plan. I think here in CDP, we're classified in the A List for the Disclosure Insight Action with more than 20,000 companies evaluated. Only 400 companies are in the A List of the 411 Brazilian companies, and one of them is CPFL. I think this is an excellent recognition. I think it shows the responsibility of our ESG plan, looking at the social and environmental issues and also the impact on our business.

ESG has to be a long-term and sustainable plan, and I think this balancing here is very well executed, and this shows that we're on the right road. With this classification, we reach a position, a very highlighted position, and I think it's a positive competition, not only CPFL but other companies also in quest of more robust ESG plans with more deliveries, more performance. This is an excellent challenge, and it's a win-win situation. I think our challenge is not only CPFL but the whole sector, all the companies, they mobilize themselves to have more robust ESG plans. This stimulates the competition, this healthy and positive competition of exchange of experiences, benchmarking information, and we're always open to do benchmarking. At the end, it is everyone.

If everyone is doing good, not only CPFL, this is a wonderful recognition to show that we're on the right way.

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Gustavo. Thank you, Mr. Pan, for the presentation. Now we're going to open to the session of questions and answers, and we'll take the minute order. All you have to do is click on the button, raise your hand. You will answer these questions live, and we already have a first question here. The first question comes from André Sampaio from Santander. André, thank you for your participation. Go ahead with your question.

André Sampaio
Head of Investment Solutions, Santander Brasil

Good morning. I want to ask a quick question about the distributors. The focus is to understand this crisis, how this is influencing the distribution. We know that the focus in renewal, the focus is for better quality, but how are these adverse climate events being treated? Of course, the companies have to be more prepared, but at the same time, there has to be flexibility in the goals of each city.

So I'd like you to comment about this. I think it would be important for risk management, let's put it that way.

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Thank you for your question. I believe that the topic of renewal is a bit on the side now. I think the ministry and the government, everyone is very engaged looking at Rio Grande do Sul to try to figure out how can we help. There's a series of specific regulations to see how we can help and support the state. I think this is taking the attention of the whole government, and I think it will be like this during the next days. So it's a topic on hold. There's no news on the renewal. I agree with you that it's very clear to us it's this route of going in quest of higher quality. Now, I think how the decree will come will be in quest of this higher level.

I think what we're going through now, especially in Rio Grande do Sul, you can have a higher or lower proportion, but this is the reality in Rio Grande do Sul. If we look at last year, we had 13 extreme climatic events. If we look from September on, we had record rain in September, and then another one of the same proportion in October, another extreme event in January, and now this one. So this has been our reality, I think, in all the areas of concession. Here in São Paulo also, we went through situations that we'd never been through before, but Rio Grande do Sul, it is recurring.

These events have been recurring, and I have no doubt that the regulation, the new regulation that will be proposed, it has to forecast that we are going to have a more adverse scenario and that at the same time, it doesn't make any sense for you to work with regulation that was defined 30 years ago with a completely different reality. But today, we have more technology. We have a greater capacity of offering quality, superior quality for our client, and we also have extreme moments such as this where the regulation, one way or another, what we need is a concession that is feasible long-term.

Once more, that balance between the operator, the client, and the regulator, this has to be observed the whole time so that we, in fact, have a positive environment that allows for investment, that allows for quality to our clients with a long-term perspective. We always say that you have BRL 28 million investment, and of the BRL 28 million, we have BRL 23 million to be done in distribution. I can only make this investment if I have this perspective, this visibility of regulatory stability, and a long-term vision for this operation. Otherwise, this plan is compromised. So I think this balance, our feeling is that there is a concern within the ministry to respect this balance, and for sure, what has to be done is observing this climatic situation that unfortunately will happen again. So we need regulation.

We need to modernize, but we also have to pay attention to this new reality so that the sector remains sustainable long-term.

André Sampaio
Head of Investment Solutions, Santander Brasil

Thank you, Estrella. Perfect.

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Thank you, André.

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Let's move to the next question. The next question is Daniel, Safra Bank. Daniel, thank you for your participation. Go ahead with your question.

Daniel Travitzky
Equity Research Associate, Safra

Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. I have two questions about Rio Grande do Sul. The first one is, of course, very sad what's happening there, but thinking on the dynamic of the operation of RGE, you mentioned that you're doing efficient work as much as possible to reestablish the energy, but I'd like to understand how this dynamic is going to happen relative to the consumption because they had a huge problem in cities which were sort of abandoned. So how do you expect this uptake of normality to happen and also the energy consumption?

If you're discussing any flexibilization to the regulator to deal with this topic. A second question also about the asset base. You had some losses of equipments that are going to have to be recovered. How do you think that the evolution is going to take place as of this? I would like to thank you if you could reply to these topics. Thank you.

Luís Henrique Pinto
VP of Regulated Operations, CPFL Energia

Hi, Daniel. It's Luís Henrique here talking. Thank you for the question. Right now, we have a reestablishment plan of all the area that's been affected in Rio Grande do Sul. We put together operational logistics. It's ready. We have helicopters. We have teams from other locations which are ready. So as soon as the water allows and it reaches a level where you can reestablish, we will go in strongly to reestablish these areas, especially in the city where there's a higher density of clients, and reestablish this in a quicker way and be able to revert this condition. Our expectation is that the quicker the water goes lower, this is going to favor the people to get back to their homes, clean up.

We're discussing with ANEEL and the ministry the possibility of using mechanisms that we have within the sector to stimulate equipment for these people, but we've had examples of other similar events, and everything is normal a few months later. So we're not so worried about the consumption. The most important thing is to prepare the logistics to reestablish as soon as the water allows. As for the assets, it's good to say that the impact that we had in the company was 5.8%. So it's not an impact as the company as a whole. Of course, we had problematic areas, but we were able to reestablish. Our assets are already working in 95% of the company.

In those affected areas, what we can observe is that our network in the metropolitan area, where we have a higher density of clients, there was not such a current there. It was a slower flooding, so the equipment was not spoiled. As soon as the water goes down, our assets will be able to work on them, and we'll reestablish quicker. In the area of Itajaí, where we had a strong current, we had bigger problems, but we've already gone there, and we've seen that we will be able to use a lot of assets. And what we can't, of course, we will substitute, but without an impact on the asset base. So if it had been a larger area, it would be worse, but it was restricted to 8% of our company, and we are going to have to substitute.

The only impact that is more relevant but not significant is the transformers, and we are already prepared to substitute. We're always going to do this with the depreciated ones, so we hope that there won't be a big impact in our asset base.

Daniel Travitzky
Equity Research Associate, Safra

Thank you for your answer.

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Daniel. Now let's move to the next question. It comes from Victor from JP Morgan. Thank you for your participation. Go ahead with your question.

Victor Burke
VP of Equity Research, JPMorgan

Hi, guys. My question is similar to Daniel, but is there any criteria? Not exactly now because you still have to recover what has been lost, but if the impact on volume is large since this revision is only going to take place in 2028, would it be good to ask for an RTE on the way depending on the volume impact?

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Hi, Victor. Thank you for your question.

Our expectation is that we'll regulate the situation in the next few months. It won't be a long-term impact, but we are discussing with the ministry and with ANEEL. We're raising all the possibilities of what's going to be invested, the cost, the losses to be able, if there is a significant impact that we hope won't happen, that we have space to do this, there would be no problem. But in principle, with what we've already checking, we are already doing a complete diagnosis in the whole area. We've already gone into everywhere. We are already doing a diagnosis, and we don't expect significant impact. So the tendency is that we will solve this in the next few months without the need of an RTE, but if it is need, we have the space, and we are discussing this with the regulatory agency.

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Victor.

We have the next and last question. It's Victor Cunha, BBA. Thank you for your participation. Go ahead with your question.

Victor Cunha
Equity Research Analyst I, Itaú BBA

And how have you seen the load dynamics? Sorry, his sound was very poor.

Yuehui Pan
CFO, CPFL Energia

Hi, Victor. Thank you for the question. We have followed the market, the evolution of load. The load is higher due to the levels of heat. We have this reflex in the distribution. We will have a load revision with the increase. Not so intense in the real. What most has impacted the price today has been less the load dynamic, but the dynamic of rains. Gustavo mentioned that in the beginning, we had January, February, March with relatively low levels, so the bilateral negotiation within the markets, the price started going down, but we had a reversion in April and May very much based on the south.

We had 146, May 280% of yen, which makes the prices from BRL 150-BRL 95. We've followed this evolution closely to see how this is going to reflect, and there's also an issue of offer in the system because once the rain comes, the prices have a trend. The trend is to lower the prices if it doesn't come, and that's the great point of attention. The rain is very much associated to the southern market. If the southern market gains more relevance from June, then there's the tendency of higher prices. I'm going to allow Rogério to talk about the load impact here.

Rogério de Almeida
Director of Energy Planning and Energy Management, CPFL Energia

Hi, Vitor. Well, as for GD in the group, just for you to have an idea, in our concession area in 2023, we closed the year with the DG representing 11% of our captive market.

We continue in a growth rhythm for distributed generation, especially the solar roofs that represent 95% of our installed capacity. For 2024, the distributed generation is 14% of our captive market. We have been growing. The generating units, the solar roofs, have continued growing. It grows, but not in an accelerated fashion. Today, we have an average, and the last three months, we have an average of about 400 requests of solar roofs per day. The rhythm continues, but a bit lower, and we'll probably close the year with 14% of the captive market represented by distributed generation. Okay?

Victor Cunha
Equity Research Analyst I, Itaú BBA

Thank you very much.

Carlos Cyrino
Director of Investor Relations, CPFL Energia

Thank you, Victor. Well, we don't have more questions. I'm going to now end the session. If there's any question, the investor relations group is at your disposal to clarify.

Just before giving the floor to Gustavo, I'd like to remind you that on the 15th, Wednesday, we'll have one more investor education talking about trading and forming energy prices. So we hope that you'll be present. If you haven't registered, I think do register. It's part of our plan for investors. So thank you very much, everyone. I'm now going to give the floor to Gustavo Estrella for his final considerations.

Gustavo Estrella
CEO, CPFL Energia

Thank you. I thank you for the participation, each and every one of you, journalists, investors. I think one more robust result and a positive perspective of load impact due to temperatures for the next months. And I would like to make an appeal, those of you who can help the state, please do so. We are very close to the day today, and we feel that it's a very, very serious situation.

Those of you who can cooperate in any way, this is very welcome. We still have a lot of people that need help right now. Thank you very much, and a good morning and a good day to everyone.

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