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Earnings Call: Q4 2019

Mar 26, 2020

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the audio conference call that will review Embraer's fourth quarter 2019 results. Thank you for standing by. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question and answer session, and instructions to participate will be given at that time. If you should require assistance during the call, please press the star key followed by zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and broadcasted at ri.embraer.com.br. This conference call includes forward-looking statements or statements about events or circumstances which have not occurred. Embraer has based these forward-looking statements largely on its current expectations and projections about future events and financial trends affecting the business and its future financial performance.

These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, including, among other things, general economic, political, and business conditions in Brazil and in other markets where the company is present. The words beliefs, may, will, estimates, continues, anticipates, intends, expects, and similar words are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Embraer undertakes no obligations to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statements because of new information, future events, or other factors. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events and circumstances discussed on its conference call might not occur. The company's actual results could differ substantially from those anticipated in the forward-looking statements. Participants on today's conference call are Mr. Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO, Mr. Antonio Carlos Garcia, Executive Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations, and Mr. Eduardo Couto, Director of Investor Relations. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Antonio Garcia.

Please go ahead, sir.

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for all joining the call today. My name is Antonio Garcia. I am Embraer's new CFO, and I will present the earnings results of Q4 in 2019 for the first time. I joined the company in January 2020, and my background comes primarily from the automotive sector, working for German companies in Brazil and abroad. I'd like to say a few words before we start the presentation. First, I would like to thank Nelson Salgado, our previous CFO, for a nice transition phase, and Nelson is returning to operations. He's going to lead our team as a Chief Operating Officer. Second, I decided to change my career and my personal life, coming back to Brazil with my family after years living abroad because I truly believe in Embraer values and the vision for the future.

I'm really impressed with what I have seen so far at Embraer. Embraer is a great company with a lot of opportunities, hard work, and passionate employees. My mission at Embraer is to help the company to extract its full potential with increased financial discipline and focus on cost. My pillars are founded in people, cash discipline, and shareholder value. I have no doubts that together with our team, we are prepared to face any challenge ahead. Slide number four. We found ourselves in a very uncertain times with the COVID-19 outbreak and its impact involving everyday risks to the global economy that continues to grow. That's why it's important to say that Embraer liquidity position is very strong. With a total cash of $2.8 billion at the end of the year, and an additional liquidity of $600 million raised now in March.

Looking at our debts, we have less than 15% of our total debt coming due in the next 24 months. We have no major debt principal payments until 2022 and 2023, most of our debts have a maturity that stretch out to 2025 and 2027. It's also important to mention that our average debt maturity is almost five years. Despite that, we are taking additional measures to preserve our liquidity, to preserve our cash, which includes inventory and production adjustment, extension of payment cycles, CapEx, and expense reduction. We are all commit with the business continuity with the health of our employees, with our partners, customers, suppliers, and in principle, also protect the shareholder value. Regarding to the Embraer and Boeing partnership, Embraer finished the carve-out of commercial business at the end of January successfully. We continue to work on satisfying the closing conditions for this transaction.

The European Commission has recently stopped the clock again, after previously updating their deadline for June 23rd. We now expect their analysis to go past that date. Slide number five. With respect to the COVID-19 outbreak, we have a crisis committee at Embraer monitoring the development of this situation. We have implemented contingent plans to act as quick as necessary, as this pandemic continues to unfold. If the measures being taken around the world to slow down the COVID-19 becomes persistent, this could negatively impact the global economy and also our business. Governments have already imposed measures like quarantines, flight and travel restrictions, and restriction of movement between countries. All of which we expect to disrupt both the supply chain and demand sides of our business.

Embraer has already announced some measures such as a temporary shutdown of operating facilities in Brazil and put the majority of its workforce on paid leave or working remotely. That said, given the level of uncertainty related to the spread of COVID-19, we are suspending our guidance for 2020 results. As soon as we have better visibility into the impact of the virus on the company business, we will issue an updated guidance to the market. Let's talk some highlights about our business, starting from the commercial aviation. Page number six. For the commercial aviation, Embraer delivered on its guidance for the year with a total of 89 E-Jets delivered in 2019, which includes 14 jets from the E2 family delivered. During the year, we booked a total of 69 firm orders from American Airlines, Azul, SkyWest, United, Fuji Dream, Binter, and Canadian and others.

Our E-Jet E2 backlog ended the year with a total of 153 firm orders and more than 570 total commitments. In 2019, we were proud that the E195-E2 received a triple certification by ANAC, the FAA, and EASA, leading to the first delivery of this aircraft type to AerCap and Azul Airlines in September 2019. Finally, the smallest and newest member of the E-Jet family, E2, the E175-E2, made its finally successful first flight. Page number seven. Let's talk about executive aviation. Some highlights about the executive aviation. Executive aviation. We met also the guidance for 2019 in regards to delivery. We delivered 109 jets, of which 62 were light jets and 47 large jets. Important to say that we delivered all aircraft produced in 2019, and ended the year with zero white tails in our inventory.

During the year, we delivered the 500th Phenom 300 in its history, and we were pleased to have this model of jet leading the light jet category in deliveries for 8 years consecutive. It's a really amazing achievement. 2019 marked a very good year for the executive jet business in terms of sales activity, which was the highest in the past 5 years. We increased our margins from strong price discipline. Our sales also includes a firm order contract with Flexjet worth $1.4 billion for a combination of Phenom 300 and Praetor 500 and Praetor 600 jets. During the year, our new Praetor 500 and Praetor 600 jets received certification from ANAC, the FAA, and EASA, outperforming on several key performance metrics, further making the case that jets are the most capable technology disruptive jets in their respective classes.

Also, we recently announced further upgrades to the Phenom 300E jet, including comfortable and technology enhancements, as well as performance enhancements to allow it to become the first single-pilot business jet ever to reach Mach 0.8. Slide number eight. Let's talk about the defense business. The defense and security business, which continued its transition from the C-390 product development phase to serious production. With the highlight of the entry into service with the Brazilian Air Force, with two aircraft delivered during 2019. We were also pleased to welcome Portugal as the first export customer for the C-390 Millennium version of this aircraft, with a firm order for five medium-lift cargo transport planes and related services. This contract was included in our backlog in the fourth quarter of 2019. Further diversifying our business, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems and Embraer signed a contract to build the Brazilian Navy's new Tamandaré-class warships.

We also signed a memorandum of understanding to start the initial study with the Brazilian Air Force for joint development of a new rugged light military transport aircraft, illustrating that Embraer continues to consolidate its position of the defense arm for the Brazilian government. We have expanded our work with the Brazilian Navy with Tamandaré contract, adding to our existing strong position with the Brazilian Air Force and growing exposure to the Brazilian Army. In slide number nine, some highlights about our service and support business unit. We continued to grow the service and support business during 2019, signing new maintenance contracts to support leasing companies in commercial aviation and increasing our MRO footprint for executive jets with recently announced expansion of our executive jet services center in Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport. Embraer services support also expanded its training capacity for commercial and executive jets.

Service and support sales, we have the record sales for the defense and security in 2019. In terms of fleet coverage, we had an important achievement with 100% of G2 fleets with services covered by our total support programs. Finally, our MRO in Portugal, OGMA, had a great 2019 with increased services in the engine overhaul business. Talking and moving to the innovation technology, slide number 10. EmbraerX reached a significant milestone by unveiling its new eVTOL flying vehicle concept for the future urban air mobility and tested a scale model mockup of the vehicle as well. In addition, EmbraerX launched a business platform for maintenance services in aviation, named BICO, which several customers started to join. Embraer and WEG also signed a cooperation agreement to work on electrical propulsion aircraft. Embraer's Ipanema crop duster plane will test the new technology during 2020.

Finally, Embraer and L3Harris are studying a platform for a new air traffic control to support urban air mobility. Now we start with the financial results. We start with the company firm order backlog on slide 12. Our backlog reached BRL 16.8 billion at the end of the year, which is roughly BRL 500 million higher than we had at the year-end of 2018. A strong year of sales in the executive jets, as well as a key contract signed defense and security, such as the contract with Portugal for the C-390 aircraft, leading to the increase of 2019 numbers. As we usually do with our fourth quarter results, we are showing the breakout of our backlog. With commercial aviation remaining the largest contributor to our backlog in value terms, representing 53% of the total. Executive jets represents around 10%, defense 25%, and services and support 13%.

Next on slide 13, we present the aircraft deliveries, starting with commercial aviation. As mentioned earlier, we met our 2019 guidance with a total of 89 commercial jet deliveries, and also met our executive jet delivery guidance with a total of 109 deliveries. Point out in the executive jets business, 2019 marked a solid growth in total delivery compared with 2018, and our mix of delivery was also more favorable. We delivered 47 large jets in the year. This is driven by the introduction of the Praetor 500 and the Praetor 600 jets during the year, and we are also excited about the future for this best-in-class aircraft. Moving to the next, revenue. At slide 14.

2019 revenue of BRL 5.4 billion was within our previous disclosure guidance range and represented a growth compared to 2018 of almost 23%. Higher deliveries in the executive jet segment and better performance in defense and security were the major drivers of the growth in this year. By segment, commercial aviation represented 41% of the revenue, followed by the executive jets at 26%, service and support at 19%, defense and security at 14% of revenue. Next slide. On the slide number 15, we presented SG&A expenses for Embraer. Our continuous effort to becoming more efficient has helped us to reduce our SG&A expenses, in which of the six years shown on the slide. Selling expenses in 2019 was BRL 286 million, while general administrative expenses were BRL 109 million in the year. We are continuing for efficient program to continue to reduce these numbers. Moving to the operating results in slide number 16.

Embraer 2019 adjusted EBIT was negative $5 million, was in line for guidance of approximately breakeven. These results do not include around $7.1 million in impairment charges related to phaseout of our legacy family in executive jets that was recognized in the fourth quarter. This number includes separation costs related to the carve-out of the commercial aviation business in preparation for the strategic partnership with Boeing of $120 million. If we adjust this separation cost, 2019 adjusted EBIT would have been $150 million positive, representing a margin slightly above 2% for the year. Our operating margins by business segment, excluding impairment charge and separation costs, were positive 1.2% for the commercial aviation, positive 1.6% for executive jets, defense and security was negative 6%, services and support was positive 13.2%. We're moving to adjusted EBITDA on slide 17. Embraer's 2019 adjusted EBITDA was also impacted by the separation costs.

Adjusted EBITDA reached BRL 182 million, or a margin of 3.3% for the year. If you take away the impact of the separation costs, adjusted EBITDA would have been BRL 303 million, with a margin of 5.5%. On the slide number 18, we present the net income. Embraer report an adjusted net loss of BRL 218 million in 2019, implying a negative margin of 4% for the year. Our earnings have been negatively impacted by the combination of the separation costs, similar to the impacts already shown in the EBIT and EBITDA, and the higher financial expenses. The impact of financial leverage will go away as we close the transaction with Boeing, as we will transition to the majority of our debt to the joint venture. In slide 19, we present Embraer investments.

In 2019, our CapEx was BRL 158 million, and our R&D was BRL 328 million, leading to a total amount for investment of BRL 486 million. Major investments this year were related to the continued development of the E2 family of jets, as well as expenditures related to separation of assets and liabilities to the commercial aviation business and related services. Moving to the slide 20, we talk about cash flow. As a consequence of the higher number of commercial and executive jet delivery in the fourth quarter, Embraer finished the year with one of the highest quarterly positive free cash flow figures in the history, of a generation of $739 million in free cash flow. We are proud of it. We finished the year with a free cash flow usage of BRL 182 million, which was within previously announced range of free cash flow usage between BRL 100 million-BRL 300 million.

We also reached this guidance. As a result of our positive free cash flow generation in the fourth quarter, on slide 21, we show our indebtedness. Net debt position improved from $1.3 billion at the end of the third quarter to $612 million in net debt at the end of the year. As mentioned earlier, our liquidity position is strong, with almost $2.8 billion in cash and equivalents, not including the $600 million we recently raised two weeks ago. Our debt is mostly long-term and has an average maturity of almost five years, with no major principal due until 2022 and the year 2023.

As we continue to monitor the potential impacts of COVID-19, I remain confident in our strong liquidity position and ability to weather the next few months. Again, just to reconfirm, our ability to continue the business and continue to support our partners and our shareholders. In the first place, the health of our employees. I will now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Francisco Gomes Neto, for his closing remarks prior to the Q&A session. Thank you.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Good morning to all the analysts and investors connected to our call today. I am Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO of Embraer. The coronavirus pandemic is affecting the whole world and our lives. We are still not able to quantify the impacts that the recent measures of social distancing and travel restriction will have, not only on our business, but on many others around the globe.

Our customers, especially in commercial aviation, are sharply reducing capacity for domestic and international flights. We have started to see increasing risks to our deliveries for the upcoming months. We are taking important measures and have launched a crisis committee formed by all our senior leadership to monitor the situation daily. We have already temporarily closed our main facilities in Brazil and put our workforce at home. Nothing is more important to Embraer than the safety and health of our employees, customers, and associates. We are also implementing measures to preserve our liquidity and maintain our solid financials during these turbulent times. We also have good news, and I would like to mention some important achievements of Embraer during 2019. We had record cash generation in the last quarter of the year of almost BRL 800 million.

We had record sales in the executive jet business, keeping strong price discipline and the successful launch of the Praetor family. Embraer delivered the first two KC-390s to the Brazilian Air Force and completed the first international sale of our new military airlifter to Portugal in the defense and security business. We signed several contracts with the Brazilian government, including the Navy, Army, and Air Force, reinforcing our position as Brazil's defense house. Also, very important, we carved out the commercial aviation business and its related services into a separate business as we continued to move forward in the partnership with Boeing. Regarding the partnership with Boeing, we still need antitrust approval in Europe, and we continue to work together with Boeing team to get it. We believe this is an important and strategic partnership and remains a priority for Embraer.

Finally, I'd like to reinforce that Embraer has already passed different crises in the past, and we are confident that this time won't be different. Together with all our employees, customers, and partners, we will come out of this virus outbreak even stronger. We will keep the market updated as the conditions continue to evolve in the upcoming months. Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press the star key followed by the one key on your touchtone phone now. If at any time you would like to remove yourself from the questioning queue, press star two. Our first question comes from Ron Epstein, Bank of America.

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Hi, Ron. Good morning

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

Couple broader questions. How are conversations going with your customers in the commercial business? What are they coming to you? What are they saying? How should we think about what the next three, six, nine months could look like in the commercial airplane business?

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

Hi, Ron. Good morning. This is Antonio speaking here. Ron, it's important to mention for sure, we are talking with all of our customers. It's important to mention that Embraer have not yet any cancellation of orders. That's important for us. We are discussing about some deferrals of deliveries from 2020 to 2021. It's more or less, in a nutshell, the discussion we are having.

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay.

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

We needed to also mention this.

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

When we look at the business jet business, what have you seen there? Has there been an impact yet on customer decision-making and how's that?

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

I would say that what we are seeing right now in regards to impact on the executive jets, we have, I would say, some small requests for deferral, but just quarterly-wise. We have no cancellation at this, let's say, pretty stable for the time being.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

If I may add, Antonio. It's Eduardo here, Ron. On executive jets, we continue to deliver planes. We had a few deliveries this week, and we also continue with our sales activity. We had a couple of sales being confirmed this week as well, so we are feeling good on the executive jet side despite all the uncertainties on the COVID-19.

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, great. Maybe just one last question, if I may. On the KC-390, when we think about the delivery profile of those aircraft this year into next, how many aircraft do you expect to deliver this year? I guess they would go to what the Brazilian Air Force, right?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

We have in our plan two aircraft to be delivered this year. We are just evaluating right now with the supply chain because we are talking to our customer now. We are aligned with our suppliers in regards to the parts, because as everybody knows, we have these travel restrictions, and what we are doing right now is just to make sure that we have the parts to produce and deliver the aircraft. We have it too in the program, for the Brazilian Air Force planes.

Ron Epstein
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thank you very much, guys.

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

Thank you.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Thanks, Ron.

Operator

The next question comes from Robert Spingarn, Credit Suisse.

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

Hi, Rob.

Operator

Mr. Robert Spingarn.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

You're on the line.

Operator

You may proceed.

Robert Spingarn
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Good morning. Can you hear me?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Yes.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Yes, we can.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Loud and clear.

Robert Spingarn
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, good. Thank you. On the Boeing deal, what is it that you think the European Commission is focused on at this point, that pushes it to the right? Any color on that?

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Well, we and Boeing, we continue to work together to establish this important strategic partnership. As I say, we still need the antitrust approved in Europe, but we continue to work with Boeing to get it. Providing the documents they ask, and try to do this as quick as we can.

Robert Spingarn
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. What is the latest in terms of your expectations for proceeds from the Boeing deal? Just given the COVID-19 situation, does this change anything with regard to the payment of a special dividend?

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Well, we are now focusing on to get this approval of the antitrust authorities in Europe, and we'll work together to overcome the situation of the COVID-19 to make this deal happen.

Robert Spingarn
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Just going back to the aftermath of 9/11, at a point where the 50-seat market was very active. There was an unexpected mix shift or demand shift toward the 50-seater away from the narrow body, because of the slow recovery expected and the idea that you could fill a 50-seater more easily than a 737 or an A320. Do you expect some kind of mix shift in demand away from the Boeing and Airbus narrow bodies and perhaps the A220 toward the E-Jet for the next few years to accommodate the lower demand in traffic?

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Robert, it's a good point. Our commercial marketing people, they are analyzing all the possible impacts, but I'd say that it's too soon for us to come with a good prognosis on this.

Robert Spingarn
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Thank you very much.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Kai von Rumohr, Cowen.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Yes. Thank you very much. In the U.S., as you know, they just passed a $2 trillion support package. Does Brazil have a support package that gives you support? If not, what sort of numbers based on the closures that you currently expect, what sort of numbers might this be in, just in terms of incremental cost?

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Okay. Hello, Kai. We are deeply in work to get additional sources of liquidity. I would say too early to say what we are getting here. For the time being, we are having some support from U.S. in regards to tax deferral, and that's more or less what we have today.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Okay. You had this very good fourth quarter cash flow. Could you update us on what was the status of payments on the KC-390, and have you early in the year seen any resistance by commercial customer or biz jet customers to make PDPs?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Yes, Kai. As far as payments from the government and free cash flow overall, we had a very strong fourth quarter, right? As you mentioned, we generated almost $800 million in cash. We had a lot of deliveries on both commercial and business jets and also payments from the government. We were able to reduce the level of receivables from the government during the quarter, and it was very important for us to generate the cash that we did during the fourth quarter.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Got it. I think at one point you talked about the incremental cost of keeping a commercial and a big jet defense business as something like BRL 10 million-BRL 15 million in OpEx and BRL 10 million-BRL 15 million in interest expense per month. Are those numbers still valid?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Sorry, Kai. You're talking about the additional cost from the delay on the deal?

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Well, the incremental cost of sort of running two separate businesses.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Yeah. We have additional cost. The main cost we have is additional financial expenses, around BRL 10 million-BRL 15 million per month. You're totally right, we have additional costs of running two businesses, another BRL 10 million-BRL 15 million per month.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Got it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Josh Milberg, Morgan Stanley.

Josh Milberg
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank Thank you guys for the call. You guys have covered a lot of ground already. I wanted to just revisit the commercial profitability outlook. We saw that in the quarter, even adjusting for separation costs, that your commercial profitability was below past fourth quarters. I know that you've had the issue of the E175-E2-SC and also E2 ramp up. I just wanted to ask, assuming that you didn't have further separation costs, and also assuming that COVID wasn't an issue, can you just talk a little bit about how profitability for commercial might have evolved this year? Also just remind us what the sort of rough mix of E2s and E1s you were anticipating for 2020. Thank you.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Okay. Hi, Josh. A lot of uncertainties right now with the COVID-19, right? Going to your question, the main impacts on the commercial side as far as profitability were the mix, right? We had more deliveries in the U.S. Those orders, as you know, they are bigger. Given the bigger orders, they tend to have slightly lower margins. The second point that affected commercial was the E2 ramp up. We continue to ramp up the E2. Last year, we had around 15 deliveries. This is starting to help, but we need to continue to move through the learning curves of the E2. As we continue to move on that will possibly affect margin going forward. Overall, those were the impacts.

For this year, as I said, we still need to assess the impact of the COVID-19 to have a better visibility in terms of margins for this year for commercial.

Josh Milberg
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

If we didn't have this COVID effect, what might have been a reasonable expectation for a mix of deliveries? What percentage of volume could be E2 this year?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Excluding the COVID-19 impact, I think this year, in terms of deliveries and even mix, should not be too different from what we had in the last two years, so around 90-100 planes.

Josh Milberg
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Noah Poponak, Goldman Sachs.

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Hi, Noah.

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

I'd love to attempt to get a little bit more precise on the degree of movement your airline customers and commercial are asking for. If we're looking at a production skyline that had roughly 90 units in it for several years, are we talking 5-10 airlines that want to defer? Are we talking 80 units that want to defer? Are we talking deferring quarters or deferring years?

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

In general, as I mentioned before, we know the airlines are cutting capacity sharply. We still need to better understand the impacts, at least they are requesting, most of them, to defer from 2020- 2021. Again, the discussion right now is very dynamic, and we have changes every day.

It's more between 2020- 2021 in regards to deferrals and no cancellation. That's important information.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Yeah, very important information, Antonio, as you said. We didn't have any cancellation so far. All the discussions are really regarding delivery schedule, but no cancellations.

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Is it the majority of your previously scheduled 2020 deliveries that are discussing deferrals? Is it something well under half?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

It's, as I said, situation is really changing. We need to know for how long the capacity reduction will last, right? It will depend how long the COVID-19 will impact capacity to have an assessment of if we're talking about part of the deliveries or what percentage of the deliveries. We can't answer that right now.

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Understood on that, given how dynamic it is. I'm actually just curious what % of those deliveries are even asking the question or even having the conversation? Is literally every airline that's supposed to take a delivery in 2020 having that conversation with you? Is it some minority of them that's having that conversation with you?

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

It depends a lot on the region, right, Noah. Also how the COVID-19 is evolving in each one of the regions. We have seen some airlines in Asia already returning operation. In the U.S., the situation is changing a lot. There was a shutdown, but a lot of conversations regarding returning operations. It's very difficult to know the impact at this point. Unfortunately, as soon as we have more visibility, we're going to restate our guidance and give the market more clarity on that. Okay?

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Just on the planned special dividend, are you today reiterating that? Or is that under review along with the rest of 2020 guidance being under review?

Antonio Carlos Garcia
EVP of Finance and Investor Relations, Embraer

Yeah, just it's important to clarify. We need, for this time being, some prudence with our investor and with you guys. We suspended the guidance. It's much more related to the operational guidance, like sales, EBITDA, and free cash flow. The structure of the deals continue to go ahead. From this perspective, it's hard to say that right now that we are changing also the dividends. We continue to work on it. Again, the strategic partnership, we are ready to close it then. It's hard to say right now that we are changing any guidance with regards to investment. We prefer to suspend all of them and reevaluate the whole scenario.

Noah Poponak
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thanks so much.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Welcome.

Operator

As a reminder, if you want to pose a question, please press star one. The next question comes from Cai von Rumohr, Cowen.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Yes. Thank you. I think you had planned to sort of report as NewCo without the commercial business. Clearly, that's not going to happen. You're basically going to have commercial, biz jet, the same businesses that you've had. Are you going to report in the same format for the first two quarters? It doesn't sound like the JV is going to get approved before then.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Yes.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Go ahead, Edu. Go ahead.

Eduardo Couto
Director of Investor Relations, Embraer

Sorry, Francisco. I was just going to mention that since we got the approval from the shareholders for the deal last year in February, we have been reporting the commercial aviation business as a separate business, right? As a discontinued operation. We're going to continue to report commercial as a discontinued operation until closing, the same then. Go ahead, Francisco.

Francisco Gomes Neto
President and CEO, Embraer

Just to say that complementary to what Edu just said, we have implemented an internal governance that we are going to manage the commercial aviation as a separate unit, but within Embraer organization, with all the processing places and all the reports and so on.

Cai von Rumohr
Analyst, Cowen

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's question and answer session. That does conclude Embraer's audio conference for today. Thank you very much for your participation. Have a good day.