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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Feb 9, 2023

Operator

Good day everyone, and welcome to Klabin's conference call.

At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session when further instructions to participate will be provided. We kindly ask that for the benefit of time, each analyst, each analyst asks a maximum of two questions. Should you require assistance during the call, please press star zero. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and also broadcast simultaneously via webcast, which can be accessed through Klabin's Industrial Relations website, where the presentation is available.

Any forward-looking statements eventually made during this conference call in connection with Klabin's business outlook, projections, operating and financial targets and potential growth should be understood as merely forecasts based on the company's management expectations in relation to the future of Klabin.

Such expectations are highly dependent on market conditions, on Brazil's overall economic performance and on industry and international market behavior, and therefore are subject to change. Present with us today are Mr. Cristiano Teixeira Silva, Marcos Ivo, CFO and IRO, as well as other company officers. Initially, Mr. Cristiano Teixeira and Mr. Marcos Ivo will comment on the company's performance through the Q4 of 2022. After that, the officers will be available to answer any questions that you may have.

I will turn the floor over to Klabin's CEO, Mr. Teixeira. Please go ahead.

Cristiano Teixeira
CEO, Klabin

Welcome, everyone, to Klabin's results conference call to discuss Q4 of 2022 results. In the year 2022, Klabin achieved record results with EBITDA of BRL 7.8 billion, an increase of 32% over the previous year.

Thus marking 2021 was a special biennium in the company's 13-year history of EBITDA growth. In the pulp business, long fiber fluff Contracts of about 60% of The contracts that started being enforced in 2023 will have prices significantly above what was in 2022. It has marked definitely the technology transformation of the paper packaging industry with Eukaliner.

In the context of a low visibility global market, the corrugated box business guaranteed security and stability to the results, showing the importance of this integrated business model. I'll turn over to Marcos Ivo, who will talk about the financial details of 2022.

Thank you, Cristiano. Good morning, everyone.

Thanks for following our conference call.

In the Q4 of last year, we achieved solid results, reaffirming the strength of Klabin's business model. In the highlights of the period, I would like to mention three. A net revenue of BRL 5.1 billion in the quarter, up 11% year-on-year. Adjusted EBITDA of BRL 1.9 billion, up 1% compared to the Q4 of 2021. Shareholders' remuneration of BRL 1.6 billion in the fiscal year of 2022.

On page four, the sales volume in the quarter was down 5% compared to the same period of 2021, reflecting the lower pulp production and a demand accommodation for kraftliner and corrugated boxes.

The net revenue in the period was of BRL 5.1 billion, an increase of 11% compared to the previous year. This increase is explained by the price adjustments implemented throughout 2022, which more than offset the reduction in sales volume and the appreciation of the Brazilian currency compared to the US dollar.

Adjusted EBITDA amounted to BRL 1.905 billion in the quarter, benefiting from net revenue growth, which has more than offset the increase in cash cost. On the next page. In 2022, net revenue was of BRL 20 billion, a growth of 22% compared to 2021. This increase is the result of higher sales volume and price adjustments, which were partially offset by the strengthening of the Brazilian currency compared to the dollar.

Adjusted EBITDA, excluding non-recurring effects, was a record amounting to R$7.8 billion in 2022 for the 13th consecutive year of Klabin's EBITDA growth. Moving to page six. Pulp EBITDA performed strongly both in the Q4 and in the year of 2022. The growth compared to 2021 of 18% and 8% respectively. This result was benefited by high price levels as well as the flexible sales mix between geographies and the portfolio with three types of fibers, hardwood, softwood, and fluff, which more than made up for the reduction in sales volume and in the increase in cash cost.

The cash cost of pulp production in the quarter was of BRL 1,338 per ton in the quarter, representing a 5.5% drop from the immediately preceding quarter, confirming the indication that we gave to you on our last call.

On page seven, in the coated board segment, which remained with a healthy demand and good prospects for the year of 2023, the production volume was of 193,000 tons in the Q4 and 727 thousand tons in the year 2022. Stable compared to the previous year, given that Klabin operates at the limit of its production capacity. Coated board revenue reached BRL 932 million in the Q4 of 2022, an increase of 12% year-on-year.

As for the year of 2022, the segment's revenue was of BRL 3.5 billion, a growth of 15% versus 2021. Both performances were driven by the price adjustments made during the year. Going on to slide 8. Adjusted free cash flow, which excludes discretionary factors and expansion projects, was positive at BRL 1.8 billion in the quarter. In 2022, adjusted free cash flow was a BRL 4.1 billion, representing a free cash flow yield of 17%, higher than the 13.2% that we had in 2021. Going to page nine.

At the end of December, Klabin's net debt was of BRL 21 billion, a reduction of BRL 397 million when compared to September 2022.

This reduction is substantially explained by the positive impact of the foreign exchange variation on the US dollar debt and the positive free cash flow in the period. Leverage, as measured by the net debt over EBITDA indicator in US dollars, ended December at 2.6x, stable compared to the previous quarter and close to the minimum level of the company's financial debt policy. Moving forward to the next slide 10. Klabin's liquidity remains robust, it ended the quarter at BRL 9.1 billion.

This liquidity consists of BRL 6.5 billion in cash and the remaining in the revolving credit line. The company's cash position is sufficient to repay the debt maturing over the next 40 months. The average maturity of the debt at the end of 2020 was 109 months, which corresponds to more than nine years.

It's worth noting that Klabin has financing contracted that have not yet been withdrawn in an amount greater than the CapEx that will be disbursed until the completion of the Puma II Project, as detailed in our earnings release. Going on to page 11. As per the notice to shareholders published yesterday, the company approved the payment of dividends in the amount of BRL 345 million to be paid on February 24.

I n the accrual basis, the dividends distributed to shareholders pertaining to the year of 2022 totaled BRL 1,610.28 million, which represents a dividend yield of 6.8%, a clear evidence of Klabin's ability to combine growth, payments to shareholders, and at the same time, maintain discipline in its capital structure.

Operator

On slide 12, the first Phases of the Puma II Project, MP27, continues its ramp up as planned, having reached production of 354,000 tons in 2022. The second Phase of the project, which will include a coated board machine, is under construction on schedule, having reached 82% of physical execution in a measurement performed on January 29th and has its production startup planned for the end of 2Q 2023. Since the beginning of the project, 11.1 billion BRLs have been disbursed, of which BRL 794 million in the 4Q 2022.

Moving on to the last slide. Klabin continues advancing in its ESG journey and working to achieve the goals of the Klabin 2030 Agenda.

As a result of our effective actions and commitment to the ESG agenda, we have received important recent recognition, of which I would like to highlight. Triple A rating in CDP in the categories Climate Change, Water and Forestry for the second consecutive year. Renewed participation for the third consecutive year in the Dow Jones Sustainability Index Global Portfolio. Inclusion in the B3 ISE for the 10th consecutive year. Inclusion in the S&P Global Sustainability Yearbook 2023 as the only Latin American company in the top 1%. Cristiano, the other officers, and myself will be available for the Q&A session. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session.

If you want to ask a question, please dial star one. To remove your question from the queue, please dial star two. Our first question comes from Caio Greiner with BTG Pactual.

Hello, good morning, everyone. I have two questions. The first is about cost. The cost dynamic drew my attention in this quarter. On one hand, pulp dropped 6% quarter-on-quarter. I believe it's because of the cost of fiber dropping. You talked about reduction in the share of third-party timber. This quarter-on-quarter reduction caught my attention in the quarter when you had a maintenance stoppage at Puma. This reduction of third-party wood more than offset the increase in other costs or lower dilution of fixed costs.

On the other hand, your total costs per ton also increased substantially. The cash cost per ton increased 8% quarter-on-quarter, showing that paper posted a relevant increase. Could you help us understand a little better this mismatch between the two, between the paper cost and the pulp cost?

Do you have a strategy to reduce the share of third-party timber in pulp and increase it a little bit in paper? What would be the rationale explaining this? How does this impact your pulp cost expectation increasing in 2023? Could we expect a change in the course for the coming quarters? Second question. Another thing that drew my attention is the reduction of volume in packaging paper in the quarter and annual comparison. You mentioned that you had some strategic stoppages in some of the mills and plants.

You mentioned the international demand for kraftliner a little weaker, and the Q4 also has a weaker seasonality in Brazil for a number of events. I would like to know how the demand is evolving and if we can expect a volume recovery in the Q1, particularly for these two markets.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Caio. I'm going to turn the floor to Marcos, then I will be back to speak about reduction in volume.

To start, just to kick us off and to clarify this straight away, there is no wood strategy per product or per business. We have a forestry basket. It's not that we have more third-party timber in one business and not in another.

There is a Klabin strategy for the whole region, Marcos will detail this. This is Marcos. Hello, Caio. First, I'd like to remind you that in the past call, we had given a signal of a reduction in the pulp cash cost, given that the pulp cash cost had been affected by one-time off events in Q3. If you hear the previous call, you will hear us mentioning this. This happened as expected, as we indicated.

Cristiano has already explained that there is no business differentiation. We try to minimize the total cost of Klabin without really choosing business A or B. As regards to 2023, Klabin's COGS per ton for 2023, our expectation is exactly what we also shared with you in Klabin Day in December. Considering all Klabin products and all effects, including a mix effect, we expect the COGS per ton for Klabin in 2023 growing a 2-digit growth per ton, low 2-digit growth. We have an IPCA inflation of around 6% expected for the year.

We had a change in the estimated mix for 2023, because in 2023, we are going to have a greater share of coated board that is living a very excellent moment.

We'll have the start up of the MP28 that changes the mix of the company and the cash cost per ton. In addition to greater integration, the same effect with a higher volume of coated board. We add to that timber. We have been explaining this to you for a long time. We give you a lot of information in the Klabin Day. Since we announced the project in 2019, we have the first cycle being supplied by third-party timber. Starting in the second cycle, and the second cycle means 2025 and beyond.

In the curve that we shared with you in the Klabin Day, we start replacing third-party wood by our own wood. Putting it all together, we maintain the signal we gave you in Klabin Day. I'd like to remind you that this is a year view.

We might have some oscillation quarter after quarter, given that this is natural in the forestry business and forestry supply. As regards volume, Caio, perhaps it's important to remind you. We came from very strong years. These market oscillations are a routine in our day-to-day business. I'm sorry to be repeating this and perhaps going into too many details. We have a planning dynamic at Klabin that has been consolidated for many, many years now. It's called sales and operations planning.

We meet weekly with our managers and monthly with our officers, and we meet daily with the rest of the team, and we operate the machines, always focusing on the best results. Sometimes. This is Klabin's flexibility. Sometimes we reduce the purchase of third-party paper. Sometimes we manage production or reduce output, particularly of recycled paper, for example.

Sometimes we adjust or bring forward a paper machine stoppage of virgin fibers. As a nutshell, this is part of a normalcy for all of business. It's part of our flexibility. Now, of course, we know that the market tends to be a little bit weaker in the Q4. Kraftliner had an impact, so we brought more kraftliner for the domestic market for corrugated boxes.

These market oscillations are more normal than you expect, illustrating how flexible Klabin's operations are and in our sales and operations planning. There was a reduction in volume as a consequence of the market. Yes, we had market stoppages for some of the paper machines.

Thank you, Cristiano .

How do you see this evolution in the Q1? Should we expect a recovery or is the market behaving similarly to the Q4?

Thank you.

I understand you're asking about paper. Yes. I meant kraftliner and packaging more specifically. In Q1, the packaging market, actually the corrugated box market is in its normal seasonality. The market starts dropping after the end of year holidays. It moves slowly until March. In June, it gets a little better. End of June, it drops again, and it achieves a peak. It starts in July, and the peak is reached in October. November is strong, then December, the cycle starts all over again. It's all part of the normal curve.

The expectation for corrugated boxes is aligned with what we expect for the country's GDP. We spoke that we're always a little higher than the Brazilian GDP with corrugated boxes, and it's the same.

We are in the normalcy curve for the beginning of the year. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Rafael Barcellos with Santander.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions.

My first question is about kraftliner. Could you give us more color on the price and demand dynamics currently? You mentioned in the release about a slightly weaker demand with higher inventories. I would like to understand to what extent this is seasonal or is this a trend that you see intensifying now in Q1 and in the first half of the year.

My second question is about corrugated boxes. I know you don't like to look at market share, quarterly, but we have seen market share dropping in recent quarters. I would just like to understand the trend you see for 2023 and the market share price strategy, and if there is any price pressure from the market.

Thank you.

Thank you, Rafael.

We start with Flavio Deganutti and then Douglas Dalmasi.

The dynamic of the Q4 and we see things in the world markets, particularly if we look at the two big markets, U.S. and Europe, while demand is not helping. There is some excess in capacity, more capacity starting in full market and production reasons in the U.S. Because of all of that, we see more pressure, the prices reflecting the supply and demand dynamic that I just mentioned.

When we look at the whole picture, we see price impacting the cash cost of marginal manufacturers, and that makes high cash costs find it hard to continue to operate in the coming months. This is Douglas Dalmasi, Rafael Barcellos. Good morning. We really don't like to look at market share. We look at the integration of markets and Klabin's flexibility. Looking at the number.

In Q4, we had two factors that impacted and caused a different performance than the market. We had two sectors in which Klabin has a higher market share performing a little less, so that drives down Klabin's number, such as fruit and protein. Fruit for climate reasons, and protein because it was reduced in export to market reasons.

Another important factor was a greater utilization of low, lower weight paper. We've been talking about the Puma II machine, PM27, and that makes the volume of tons for me to reduce the weight of the package. When we look at square meters, it doesn't correspond to the same proportion. When we look at the tons number, we get a false impression. Now, looking at 2023, we should follow the market in most segments.

In talking with our clients and with the market in general, particularly in these segments that I just mentioned, where the 4th quarter underperformed, we see that the fruit and protein sector, where Klabin has a higher market share, they have a better outlook. As Chris mentioned, the segment is growing more than the GDP. If these industries come stronger, we should perform better.

We need to be cautious. We need to follow the performance of these segments. Regarding price, in the past, we performed a lot better than inflation, and our quest this year is to be aligned with the IPCA inflation rate.

Thank you, Rafael.

Just a follow-up question. I don't know if I had a chopped sound, but regarding kraftliner, you mentioned that you're seeing a current level of price hit the marginal level. Is that it?

Cristiano Teixeira
CEO, Klabin

Yes. We have a curve that differentiates producers like us from producers that are more impacted by inflation in their cash cost. This is valid particularly for producers in the Northern Hemisphere.

Current price levels added to logistics impacts that are still present caused the net price to touch the cash cost curve. During the months of December and January, we also observed a reduction in inventories of the chains. There's a lot to do. Inventories are still higher than historical levels, but there is now a process of reducing the inventories.

Operator

Excellent. Thank you very much.

Cristiano Teixeira
CEO, Klabin

The next question is from Isabella Vasconcelos, Bradesco BBI.

Hello, good morning, everyone. Thank you for the opportunity.

I have two questions on my side. First, about the future downtime at Monte Alegre, if the studies continue to evolve, if you have any update that you could share with us about the potential project. I remember there were some studies or different studies that you were looking at. If you have any update on that side, it would be interesting. The second question, I don't know if Nicolini is there, the pulp market, especially in China, post-Chinese New Year. Do you see the demand, how it's evolving in China?

If we can talk about in Europe recently, it would be interesting to us.

Thank you. Isabella. I'm just going to try and interpret your first question.

If I'm wrong, you please tell me, but I imagine that you're saying about the future downtime in Monte Alegre. Of course, that doesn't exist. The only that I remember about Monte Alegre is the recovery boiler. Yes, that's it. I'm sorry.

That's exactly it. Okay. I'll answer, and I think it will fix your vision. I mean, I may be redundant in the beginning, but Monte Alegre was Klabin's main plant for many years in terms of results. They have the coated board Machine No. 9, PM 7 that we mentioned. It's a very important site for Klabin. From the 1940s until today, the site with an order of 1 million tons, it's a very important site for Klabin.

There we have a 1 boiler. We have boiler one that we have been studying to repair it for many, a number of years.

Of course, we've worked with a very high safety level. We're always very conservative. When we started to look at this, we considered the worst cost scenario or maintenance.

As I mentioned at Klabin Day, and we can go back to what I said then, it's the same thing. We are more and more confident that within the vision that we outlined initially, we're in the Q1 of investment or rather costs and the operating amount for this boiler. If we had an original idea, this number is closer to a third of what I had figured.

This retrofit will be done over the next two or three years during the general downtimes without any impact and the result or in the guidance for the business at that site.

This is something that started for us with a high attention level because it is an important site, it's that site. Now I'd say it's in the routine of the company. The boiler will be retrofitted in the coming years, and you will see it with us, but the effect will be very small, both in terms of the investments made by the company and the results, of course.

As for the pulp market, Nico will talk more about it for you.

Thank you.

Just to add, Isabella, we remain with the information from the Klabin Day in terms of disbursement for the boiler in 2023. If it occurs, it's an amount of 150 million BRL. That's within the number that we gave you for the CapEx indication for 2023, so there's no change in that sense.

Excellent.

Thank you.

Good morning. It's Nico.

Thank you for your question.

At this time, we're still analyzing and looking at the developments in China after the Chinese New Year and the expectations in the sense of the improvement of the Chinese economy to understand how this may impact other markets.

What I can tell you is that the month of January was a good month in terms of demand, but it's too early to affirm that there will be a recovery in the coming months. In terms of the European market, the year began in a more challenging way. Since the middle of last quarter, we saw demand that was more repressed in the print and writing and specialty segments.

The market as a whole already expected some correction in terms of prices in eucalyptus pulp after a few months of a complete standoff in terms of price.

It's worth remembering that the year started at prices much higher than the initial projections, and now we're looking at the developments in the markets to feel how this is going to develop in the quarter.

Excellent.

Thank you.

Our next question is from Caio Ribeiro, Bank of America.

Good morning. Thank you for this opportunity.

First, I'd like to see whether you can talk about the softwood market. We see some players in North America announcing price increases in $20-$30 per ton. I'd like to see if you understand the dynamic of this market, of this fiber, if there is room for any type of increase. Second, if you see any movement towards the replacement of softwood with hardwood, seeing the levels that are above historical indexes.

Nico is going to answer to you, Caio good morning.

Thank you for your question.

The softwood market starts to give us some positive indications of a steadier market. It's worth noting that this segment suffered first with price corrections in the middle of last year. Considering the context, especially in Canada, with the production stoppage or downtime announced because of lack of fiber and closing due to capacity or reduction of capacity, that led to an announcement of a $30 price increase in international markets. Brazil follows the price in Europe.

These prices are being implemented now in the month of February. It's worth noting that when we compare the dynamics of the markets, the differential, the gap of prices between softwood and hardwood in China and in Europe, it's out of place. It's different. We talk about the prices in China between softwood and hardwood, it's $120 per ton.

In Europe in January, it was around 30. That's a very small gap in Europe. We see the softwood market steadier due to what has already been discussed, and now we will keep watching and see how it develops in coming months.

Excellent. Very clear.

Thank you, Nicolini.

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Sasson, Itaú BBA.

Hello. Good morning, everyone. My first question is related to potential decision to invest in the new big project for Klabin's expansion. We are close to finalizing the second PM of Puma II expected for mid-year. We are already about the future agenda. I'd like to know, do you have any time expectation to take to the board of directors to perhaps approve that bigger project that you have in Santa Catarina?

I would like to know a little about that. Perhaps you could elaborate on the kraftliner dynamic. It caught my attention, the price reduction in the international market more recently in the high single-digit, low double-digit drop.

Could you elaborate on the price expectation for kraftliner in a year where perhaps the U.S. economy can waver a little bit? Perhaps there might be a little more kraftliner left to export over there.

Thank you for the question, Sasson .

I am serene regards to the Santa Catarina project. Here's what I can tell you. We always talk about the paper and pulp market characteristics. I mean, we study and plan projects way ahead.

My answer to you is yes, we continue with that in our radar. Not only in the radar of the management of the company, but also in the radar of the board of directors. We have a strategic approach for softwood. This is the year to focus on Machine 28.

You see, I said it a couple of times, the coated board machine, well, it brings embedded technology which is sophisticated. It has sensors. It increases the quality of the product. It enables to have low weight coated board compared particularly to U.S. virgin fiber coated board in the many categories that you request. We worked many, many years for this machine.

The coated board market is not as big as the containerboard or even the pulp market. It is a more select market in terms of producers and consumers. It has a premium value, price stability. These are long-term contracts. Just one detail, we have a contract for machine 28, which are 3-year contracts with excellent negotiation, ensuring a good part of Klabin's stability of results.

I'm estimating a number that will be communicated to you in the future.

Looking at Klabin today, protecting for the next few years, Klabin in its three primary businesses.

I'll make a parallel with the U.S. market because I think it will be more direct and transparent for you to understand. We have a pulp market at a number of companies called biomaterials. In this biomaterials market, as you well know, we have 1.1 million tons of hardwood and many more thousand tons of softwood with a premium price for softwood.

You have seen what has happened in recent years in Klabin with softwood and full of consolidated throughout Latin America and approved by all brands in the world. When we look at the other business, I will take a risk here and say containerboard with corrugated box.

A company, typically you're looking at an IP or a PCA in the U.S.

In this market, Klabin is highly integrated. With a market share that was mentioned, we don't work at this, in a good time of moment, but we have about 25% of the Brazilian market of corrugated boxes, and we sell paper to practically all other Klabin competitors in the segments that require virgin fiber paper.

When we look at Klabin's third market, I'm bringing a relative innovation for you, dividing it by three, and that is the coated board. That's what they call consumer board in the U.S. This market with, PM28 protecting for the next years, it will divide. Klabin will break it down into three thirds. One third biomaterials, one third corrugated boxes, and the third third of coated board.

These three segments are absolutely consolidated with niche products. For all three, we have projects and a future vision.

At this moment, and this can extend to the next year, we will be focusing on this division consumer board and of course, consolidation of our other businesses as well. We'll focus on increasing efficiency, always trying to increase efficiency.

At this point, I prefer not to mention, not to focus on the Santa Catarina project because the future of softwood is consolidated for us in that region.

There is no relevance or materiality to speak about projects this year and perhaps next year.

2023 is about new capacity. We want to deleverage the company and gain operating efficiency. As for the liner market, well, I spoke a little too much, I apologize, but I wanted to give you this kind of detailed level, and I'll turn the floor to Flavio. Now let me elaborate a little more. We have a situation that is very different compared to previous cycles. Some big numbers.

The U.S. market took out of the market 2 million tons if we add the main producers in their published releases. U.S. exports are at their lowest possible level and compared with a long historical series, which is counterintuitive. Normally, with the weakening of external markets, the U.S. market exports more. As I explained before when answering Rafael's questions, because now we have a situation of low profitability, we stop capacity and we export less.

I am going to mention a new element, which is an element of Klabin. Klabin has its own mix. We do a lot of virgin fiber, low weight paper, new liner. Brought a little more of this context to our products. Klabin has its own geography. We have in South America some markets which are very relevant in our portfolio. This is a market. We have a high market share in these markets.

We also have a mix which is very much favored by fruit, vegetables, fat, protein, and these markets continue to do well. We reap the fruit of operating in specific mixes that help us in a macro view. Looking at the U.S. market, even before they actually have a recession, if a recession ever happens, now they are reducing capacity and they're exporting less.

Thank you.

Cristiano Teixeira
CEO, Klabin

Our next question is from our webcast from Andre at XP Investimentos.

We have seen some news of greater potential payment from Brazilian companies and taxes either by MP 1152 or yesterday's Supreme Court decision.

Can you give us a view of how these measures can impact Klabin?

Thank you, Andre.

I'll turn the floor to Marcos Ivo. Andre, as for MP 1152, that's in Congress waiting for approval. But we have the text, so we can make our statements based on that. Klabin has always had a more conservative attitude in its tax decisions.

In the past, this has led Klabin to adopt what the OECD defends and what you'll see in the text of MP 1152.

To make it simpler, that if approved, it will bring a change in the transfers price of Brazilian companies when they sell to their own subsidiaries outside of Brazil. Klabin, since we opened our subsidiary outside of Brazil, and it became more relevant with Puma One as of 2016, we always have a very conservative position, understanding that there was a high risk of falling an aggressive practice in terms of tax payments. We chose a conservative path, which means that if this bill is approved as it is today, it will have no impact for Klabin.

Now, I imagine you are talking about Supreme Court's decision yesterday that may bring a big change to the results in certain situations of lawsuits.

We don't see anything that may affect Klabin looking at our past other than a greater legal insecurity for future decisions. In terms of the decision, the past decisions that have been made in our cases, there's nothing we can see that would cause an impact. Excuse me. If there are no further questions, I would like to turn the floor over to Mr. Cristiano Teixeira for his final remarks.

Please, you may go ahead. Thank you.

First, I would like to give you a side note before talking about the perception of the last quarter.

The side note is about our new legal director at Klabin, Mariangela, who came from the Grupo Votorantim Cimentos. She's been at Fibria, Vale.

She's a highly qualified professional that is now joining our team and adding her structured view and knowledge to our company in tax and legal terms. Welcome, Mariangela. It's a pleasure to have you with us.

Now I'll give you our perception on the Q1 of 2023. Usually, the Q1 of a year is a period with a lower seasonal demand and a slow pace in all markets. Especially this year, due to the macro scenario, visibility is low.

At Klabin, we have positive perspectives for this Q1, with results expected to be above the same period on the previous year. We remain steady in the constant search for operating efficiency and cost control.

Our main focus remains on MP28, which now presents 82% of its works concluded, and we're confident with the startup of production in the second half of 2023.

I thank you all for your participation, and I'll see you on Klabin's next earnings conference call.

This is the end of the conference call held by Klabin S.A. I thank you very much for your participation, and have a nice day.

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