Oi S.A. (BVMF:OIBR4)
Brazil flag Brazil · Delayed Price · Currency is BRL
1.230
0.00 (0.00%)
May 11, 2026, 5:00 PM GMT-3
← View all transcripts

Earnings Call: Q4 2021

May 5, 2022

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for waiting. Be welcome to Oi's video conference to discuss 2021 fourth quarter results. The event will take place in English with simultaneous translation into Portuguese. Please be informed that this video conference is being recorded, and it will be available later on the company's IR website. During the company's presentation, all participants will be with their microphones disabled. To get in line, in order to ask questions, please click on the Q&A icon at the bottom of your screen and write your name and company. After the presentation, we will begin the Q&A session. Now I would like to pass the floor to Mr. Rodrigo Abreu, Oi's CEO. Please, Rodrigo, now I think you can proceed.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Marcelo, and good morning, all. Welcome to our fourth quarter 2021 call. Before we start, I would like to remind everybody the reason why we have delayed this call. As you all know, we are on the verge of completing a substantial restructuring of our business. As announced in the transformation plan we set out to do back in 2019, 2020, this involves the sale of UPI's asset separation, so the separation of our mobile infrastructure arm into three special purpose entities that have just been sold to the three other operators in Brazil. We are separating our infrastructure operation as well and are on the verge of closing this operation as well.

We have just announced the signature of an MOU with Sky for the divestment of our DTH-TV subscriber base. All of this obviously added an enormous level of complexity to do all of the audit work and to close the 2021 numbers in such a tight. We had to do a complete review of all of those operations and all of the level of complexity of those operations led the audit process to take a lot longer than usual. As we advised when we announced this delay, no significant differences to the key numbers that we have presented when we announced the delay occurred.

We had highlighted those before just to give a hint of what was to come and to signal that this delay has nothing to do with all of the numbers that we are presenting, but simply with the sheer complexity of finishing all of the audits of the transactions and restructuring operations to close 2021. Since the delay was announced, as you know, we have already successfully closed the sale of our mobile UPI, and this for us marks a significant milestone of our transformation plan. With that, let's look at the highlights of Q4 and the year, knowing that there will be still significant changes to the way we both present our numbers for the future, as well as how we should measure the company's success going forward after we complete all of the restructuring progress.

Let's turn straight to slide three, where we can talk about some of the highlights. As you know, the transformation of our business depends on completing not only the restructuring operations, but also depend on creating a healthy transformed core while we simplify our cost structure for the future. This, we're all on track. Basically at the fourth quarter of 2021 delivered not only important operational milestones, but also confirms the operational results we have been trying to obtain in all of the different fronts. We start with the solid fundamentals on the core business, and there we can see that we continue to accelerate the fiber business. We were first in market share growth and leader in 17 states.

We reached the significant numbers of both homes connected and homes passed, and also delivered the guidance for the full year that we had set out to do at the beginning of the year. We also confirmed the residential turnaround. We're gonna talk more about this, but for the first time in nine years, we presented full-year annual growth in residential revenues, and this marks a departure from the decline in legacy revenues that obviously are brought forward because of the declining copper. With fiber taking center stage here, we can confirm that the residential revenues will continue to go up in the future.

We also brought growth on the small and medium enterprises and in the ICT revenues in B2B, and this marked significant increases in both segments with 5.2% year-over-year on small and medium enterprise revenues and over 13% year-over-year ICT revenue growth. On the second pillar, we have also provided a solid, sustainable, and simplified operating model for the future, and 2021 helped us to set the stage for doing just that. We start with a strong cost efficiency program. It continues. We presented very good results of 6.9% year-over-year cost reduction in the fourth quarter and almost 3% year-over-year for the full year. This represented a significant real gain, considering that we had over 10% inflation considering the IPCA index in 2021.

In spite of all of this growth in the inflation index, we managed to deliver the strong cost efficiency we set out to do initially at the beginning of the year. This came with a simplified organization. We had a minus 18% year-over-year personnel cost reduction in 2021 in the fourth quarter, and with a full year minus 8% in total full-year costs in personnel. Again, looking for a simplified organization going forward, looking for a streamlined organization following the transformation of all of the businesses and the divestments of the businesses that we had set out to do. Finally, we're applying ESG where it matters.

This is not only helping us do what's right, but it's helping us where it matters, where it help us cut costs, where it help us increase the perception of Oi as an inclusive environment, where it helps to engage our entire workforce and ultimately applying ESG where it matters for our transformation. In addition to the solid fundamentals on the core business and the simplified operating model, we obviously continue to make significant progress on the structural milestones. We have now the structural milestones in the final phase. After everything that happened last year with the closing of towers and data centers, the signature of the infrastructure deal, the launch of the separate brand for the start of the infrastructure operations with V.tal , the approvals that we had in CADE.

Finally, we have closed the mobile UPI, and we have signed also the term sheet with Sky for the DTH-TV. Of all of the big operations we had set out to do, we are on the verge of closing all of them now with just one big operation to be closed in the coming weeks. With the term sheet for the last UPI, which was the TV UPI, also with very good progress presented. Turning to page 4, let's start as usual by looking at the detailed performance of all of the different components of our business, starting in page 4 with fiber. In fiber, it's been approximately 3 years since we launched the project, and fiber has proven that it will be the core of our long term.

After the first three years, the project is still going strong, showing the company's execution capacity to launch the project, but also for the long-term execution. The revenues for fiber reached the BRL 3 billion level in 2021. Not only the annualized revenue, but the actual level of BRL 3 billion revenues in 2021, which are much higher going for 2022. This is a long way from the almost non-existing fiber revenues we had when we started 2020. This comes as a combination of a great homes connected base that reached 3.4 million homes connected at the end of 2021, and this helped us deliver the guidance in terms of homes connected.

Also, a continuously improving ARPU, which has started with BRL 81.9 in 2019 and is already getting close to BRL 90 with BRL 87.5 for 2021. All of this happened despite a market tightening, and we know that the market has tightened at the end, especially the second half of last year. In spite of that, we increased market share in most regions. As I had highlighted, we are the fiber market leader in 17 states and in pretty much all of the cities covered there. The ARPU growth with all of that continued to happen because we have managed to improve the percentage of the high speed connections as our total base is concerned. In fourth quarter 2021, the higher speeds already represented over 14% of our total connections.

This proves that obviously it is a much tougher market now, but the performance can be confirmed and can help actually turn around the residential segments as we can see in the next page. After many years of decline, nine years to be more precise, our residential turnaround was confirmed with full year top line growth, obviously due to the fiber results. The revenues grew year-over-year despite the sharp declines in legacy that continued to occur, and that were seen in particular in the fourth quarter of last year. We had a full year growth of revenues coming from BRL 5.187 billion - BRL 5.214 billion at the end of 2021. Fiber is continuously offsetting the decline in legacy services.

We can see, this was expected, but it's a good confirmation that we now have completed a full inversion both in RGUs and revenues between fiber and copper, and this is here to stay. The tipping point came in the second quarter of 2021, but it continued in the third quarter, it continued in the fourth quarter, and it's here to stay. Even with a much tougher market, we managed to be the leader in fiber net adds last year with 1.2 million fiber net adds. So according to plan, and a lot ahead of pretty much all of the other players. As our base is already large and growing, what we did in the fourth quarter and are starting to do with a lot more precision in 2022, is shifting gears as well to profitable growth.

What does this means? This means that we're fine-tuning our acquisition and credit policies for FTTH in order to achieve higher customer lifetime values and also to control involuntary churn and bad debt that are naturally associated with a fast-growing customer base. We have started to do that. We are now being much more stringent on our credit policies. We are bringing a much higher quality customer base as net adds, and this policy will continue for 2022, because now what matters is actually the contribution that we're bringing on top of everything that we have been constructing as a very healthy customer base. An additional positive data point from fiber comes from the small and medium enterprise performance, as can be seen on the next page.

The SME segment also showed full-year growth after some years of decline, with more resiliency on legacy adding to the fiber ramp up. On SMEs, the revenues grew year- over- year, more than doubling the fiber participation both in the quarter as well as in the full year. We started in 2021 a very focused strategy that was implemented with channel synergies, a lot of partnerships for the segments, and obviously, as I mentioned, a more resilient legacy services base. As an example of that, we started a great partnership with PagSeguro in Oi Fibra in 2021, where we have several competitive benefits for our SME customers that adopt both the PagSeguro POS as well as our Oi Fibra.

SME also starts to benefit from solution developed that is being carried out in B2B, and we look at B2B's highlights in the next slide. In B2B execution, we have the performance in line with the company's expectations, with a lot of ICT growth supported by a portfolio evolution and by a lot of value-added services during the year. Even though legacy also declines here, and we know that there is a lot of legacy revenues inside the B2B legacy revenues as well. We can see that core revenues grew year-over-year and represent already close to 60% of all of Oi Soluções revenues. On the core revenues, we can see that the split between telecom core and ICT core continues to tilt in favor of ICT, and ICT already represents close to 14% of total revenues.

The strong performance of core ICT came to boost new revenues and was based on a number of launches, including a multi-cloud platform launch with close to 200% year-over-year revenue increases, 80% revenue increases in IoT and video surveillance and analytics. Software deployment surged in new agile modes, increasing by 63% the digital applications revenues, 36% the revenue increases with the Wi-Fi launch, with Wi-Fi projects. We have a lot more projects on the pipeline in a continuously growing portfolio of value-added services and IT services for Oi Soluções. Ultimately, this is what Oi Soluções is poised to be.

It's a component of our core revenues that focus initially on telecom core, but it's rapidly expanding to ICT core, which will represent, without a question, the bulk of our growth and stabilizing Oi Soluções revenue over time, as we expected. Next, as we normally talk, but this time, for the last time as a full-year result, let's look at our mobile performance in Q4. In page 8, we can see that even though this is an exit business for us, we did have a very consistent performance during 2021, which contributed to a positive closing at the mobile assets UPI sale in this quarter. We look initially at the mobile client revenue, which was up both on a quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year basis, so very positive metrics in terms of mobile client revenues.

In a closing sprint during 2021, we even expanded our mobile base, especially with postpaid growth, that at the end of 2021 represented over 60% of our customer base. When we look at that, this was supported by a focus strategy and led to share gains in both revenues as well as in pre and postpaid net shares. This was supported by promotional offers, a focus on profitability, portfolio rationalization, and obviously incentive actions throughout the year to increase consumptions. With all of that, we had a very positive closing of the mobile assets UPI sale on April 20th.

What we expected as the closing price, which was originally announced as BRL 15.744 billion, we now closed with an actual number of BRL 15.9 billion, considering that we had some positive adjustments to the original selling price. In addition to a potential BRL 300 million, or close to BRL 300 million contingent amount in terms of earn-outs due to certain performance conditions we had set out to do in migrating our customer base to the new buyers. All in all, the mobile assets UPI closing was conducted with significant results for us in a very successful way.

This actually marks the first departure that we had set out to do in terms of the big restructuring operations for the company and a successful milestone that is now fully completed, only depending on the final transition of the clients that will occur during the period of the next 12 months. Finally, with the closing of the extraordinary operations, we will be able to shift attention to new revenues as well as we can see next. In page nine, we can see that the new revenue components based on add-on services have experienced relevant growth, but there are still lots of room to develop.

We confirm the great potential that those new revenues have for us as they presented over 50% year-over-year growth on Q4 and almost 40% year-over-year growth for the entire 2021 year, getting to BRL 160 million. Some examples of those metrics on our key add-on services illustrate not only the strength but this potential. Oi Place increased 35% in GMV, increased 45% in terms of number of orders, and both Oi Expert and Oi Play had also significant increases. In the case of Oi Expert, over 45% increase in the number of customers. In the case of Oi Play, over 100% increase in time of usage. We expect a significant acceleration due to the launch of new services in the coming future.

Obviously, in the long term, this will be a significant component of our overall New Oi core revenues. Now let's look at the current revenue mix, all segments considered, on the next page. On page 10, we can see that even though we had some slowdown of overall consolidated revenues, we see that we have now over 40% of growth in core revenues. Core revenues already represent 57% of continued revenues, up from 41% last quarter. We know that out of the consolidated revenues, a lot of the revenues are due to discontinued operations and TV. When we look at the core revenues, especially fiber, B2B and all of the revenues that will continue growing in the future, we see the significant progress we obtained.

This, as I mentioned, now make up for 50% of continued revenues. The slowdown of the consolidated revenues was softened by the overall fiber growth. As we had the trend back in 2018 that pointed to close to 10% decreases in consolidated revenues, this has softened to 4% this year. With all of that and the fiber deployment changing this revenue trends, we are now positioning Oi, and in particular, the New Oi revenues, the continued revenues to return to top-line growth, in the very short-term future. Fiber will be at the center of that, with 29% share of continued operations revenues, and obviously, this number will continue to grow. Last, in terms of business unit results, let's look at V.tal.

In V.tal, we must say that we have already completed our structural separation even before the closing of the transaction and the admittance of the new controlling shareholder in BTG. As we had announced last year, we had a goal of completing the structural separation in 2021 to have V.tal operating as a fully independent company. This was completed, and this is allowing the accelerated growth to continue on HP deployment. In addition to that, which obviously already had been happening while we had V.tal inside Oi as the infrastructure operation, we also are managing to get significant commercial traction with the segregated operation in place. We reached, at the end of the fourth quarter 2021, almost 15 million homes passed. We again delivered guidance in terms of homes passed.

We have added more cities in the commercial launch of more cities to V.tal. We now have cities in pretty much the entire country which are growing significantly in terms of homes passed. The commercial traction is getting. We had 9 new signed neutral contracts covering almost 50 cities and 5 million homes passed last year. V.tal, at the beginning of this year, just announced as well a new agreement for various tenants to use the neutral network nationwide.

In terms of the operation, it's important to mention that since the very beginning of this year, we are operating the infrastructure in V.tal as a lockbox agreement with BTG, in which all of the results of this operation and even before closing are already attributed to the new controller, and all of those compensations will be carried out as soon as we close the operation shortly. All in all, we have the V.tal operation already fully independent, operating as it should, and we believe that it will continue to be a critical part of our equity story going forward. As we know, we expect the V.tal operation not only to grow very fast, but also to represent a significant value increase for us in the coming years, and this will help us address the long-term sustainability of the company.

Now, after talking about the business results in terms of revenue generating units, let's look at how we're simplifying the company and bringing greater efficiency, starting with page 12. As we all know, efficiency and simplification was always a key component of our transformation, and we are happy to say that we delivered very solid results in 2021, despite the inflationary pressures, as I have already mentioned at the beginning. Our routine OpEx was down 7% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, and even with all of the inflationary pressure, minus 2.6% for the full year 2021. This represents a real gain of almost 13%, considering that we had an almost 10% inflationary index there.

When we look at the dynamics, both for the full year as well as the quarterly dynamics, we can see that the gains occurred in pretty much all of the components, even with many impacted by high inflation, except some which are very impacted by inflation and are not fully controllable, such as rent and insurance, with external contracts that are obviously impacted by the inflationary components. In addition to that, we can see that we have significant reductions in pretty much all of the components, both on the full year dynamics and on quarterly dynamics. As we can see, we managed to compensate for inflation, especially at the end of 2021, resuming the OpEx reduction trends that we have been maintaining since 2019. We can see that starting in 2019.

Throughout 2020, we have maintained a significant OpEx reduction routine. This was significantly impacted by the inflation adjustments in the first and second quarters of 2021. With all of the metrics and operations of simplification and efficiency that we introduced in the first quarter, in the first half of 2021, we were able to capture the benefits in the second half of the year, accelerating to a -6% decline in the third quarter and closing the year with a -6.9% decline in routine OpEx. Out of all of that, controllable costs were a highlight, as we can see in the next slide, and we kept a very strong stance on managing all of the manageable costs.

Even with the revenue growth, for instance, the only components in costs linked to revenue and growth that grew were commissions and grew 5.4%, in line with what we're doing in terms of increasing our selling stance. As well as in the case of mobile fees, which obviously were due to the significant growth that we obtained in our mobile base last year. Other than that, we pretty much consistently reduced costs across the board. This was also fueled by a significant digitalization of our journeys, and this can be seen in the very significant numbers, both in e-billing and in digitalizing customer care, with the digital assistants. In the share of collections through digital channels that moved up to 42%.

In the increase of FTTH customers that interact via our voice assistants. In the increase of FTTH customers looking for technical assistance via the virtual technician that went up to 63%. Pretty much in all different points of contact with our customers, we have managed to create a true digital journey that will go nowhere but up as we continue to include fiber as the center of our strategy and reduce our legacy operations. The OpEx program will continue toward the BRL 1 billion growth goal that we had set a while ago, as can be seen in the next page. As we all know, we had mapped over BRL 1 billion in cost reductions, and we continue to execute this program on a daily basis.

I should say that we are on course to the over BRL 1 billion savings in annualized costs that we announced last year with our cost transformation program. We have basically two major sides to this transformation. The first one is to reduce the cost base after the exit of the UPIs, both mobile and infrastructure. We're gonna have a new cost base after the UPI sales, which is roughly half of what we had before. Even with the ones that stay, we also have a significant component of reduction in pretty much three pillars. First is to streamline all of the cost outs due to the exit of both mobile and InfraCo, and then to reduce the organizational structure, and we have managed to achieve significant progress in those fronts.

To streamline the New Oi operations, we're talking about marketing and digital, we're talking about IT and network efficiencies, and obviously focusing on G&A efforts. Finally, we have the legacy turnaround components. The legacy turnaround components is a combination of just being a lot more operationally efficient in terms of operating the concession of the fiber operations. As well as in addressing non-organic components such as the arbitration and several disputes with Anatel to reduce the regulated costs of operating the concession. More to come on this. Our arbitration is going forward. We are on track with the arbitration, but we also are looking towards a significant cost reduction components when we look at the migration from concession to authorization, and we expect some of those to produce results still this year. This helped us to manage our cash very carefully.

All of those OpEx reduction programs, obviously coupled with the focus on the business results. On page 15, we can see the results both on EBITDA, CapEx and cash flow. As it was expected that the company should do, we managed cash very carefully during 2021. Obviously, we expect our operating cash profile to be fully changed in 2022, mainly from the CapEx reduction due to the exit of two of the large operations through the M&A programs. Starting with the routine EBITDA, we see that the routine EBITDA grew in Q4, both year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter, achieving a -8.7% year-over-year, due just to the reduction of overall revenues for the full year.

Again, looking towards this year, we can see that this is a trend that can be now compensated after all is accounted for and the New Oi routines are set in place with the new core revenues. CapEx was executed according to plan. We had a slight increase in CapEx from 2021 to 2020, but this is due primarily to maintaining the growth of the fiber base, as well as of the preparation that we had to do for all of the segregation operations on both infrastructure as well as mobile. It was according to plan. When we look at what the CapEx represents here for the full year, we can see that a lot of the CapEx actually comes from the discontinued operation.

BRL 5.7 billion of the overall CapEx comes from the discontinued operations with BRL 1.8 billion in New Oi CapEx. Obviously, this will be a significantly changed profile for next year. This helped to manage our cash position at the year end while we waited for the completion of the cash incoming from the M&As. As we started the fourth quarter with a cash position of BRL 4.1 billion. We ended the fourth quarter with a cash position of BRL 3.3 billion. Still in a very manageable level with a cash EBITDA of BRL 1.3 billion.

Obviously, we did have some increases both in gross debt as well as net debt, given the financing operations that we had to carry out last year while we wait for the cash ins coming from the 2 big M&A transactions that we're closing this year. With the cash ins starting now with the mobile close, we start to address the de-leveraging of the operation, as can be seen in the next page. The de-leveraging process was initiated now in the second quarter 2022, following the mobile UPI proceeds, and this will set the stage for further future de-leverage with more UPI proceeds coming in in the near-term future.

When we look at the gross debt breakdown, as I mentioned, the gross debt breakdown last year increased due to the financing operations, but now we start to revert this trend. We can see that out of the mobile UPIs, we have already addressed close to BRL 11.5 billion of debt amortization when we settled both the BNDES, as well as the two extraordinary financing operations we had done to close the cash bridge last year, the 2026 bonds of BRL 5.2 billion, and the mobile bridge loan with BRL 2.2 billion, which were both liquidated with the proceeds of the mobile UPI.

In addition to the proceeds of the mobile UPI, obviously we now expect the proceeds coming from InfraCo, and the proceeds will occur in several installments, including a first installment expected at closing. We expect again that this will be during May. Then the secondary and additional components of the closing of InfraCo, including the settlement of an intracompany loan of BRL 2.5 billion. Finally, the second and third installments of the secondary components of the closing. Then overall, we will have brought to Oi over BRL 26 billion in new proceeds to address the de-leveraging of the company.

As a last comment here, it's important to mention that, while we closed Mobile this quarter and we had the closing and the liquidation of the 2026 bonds. It's important to mention as well that the very good cash management and FX management helped us to close the 2026 bonds with a significantly positive hedge operation, where we were able to capture the down fluctuation we had in the FX between reais and dollars to close the 2026 bonds liquidation. This brought forward a significant gain compared to where we have the current FX rates going forward.

Next, we can talk about an important component that pretty much everybody talks about these days, but that we are applying where it matters, where it's what is ESG. In ESG, obviously we're looking at ESG because it is the right thing to do, but we're applying where it matters for the company. In all three pillars, we have in E, in S, and G, applied important initiatives to help us not only do what's right, but to do what's right where it's right for the company. In particular, in terms of energy consumption, where we significantly reduced our energy consumption including renewable sources last year. In refurbishing FTTH and data equipment, and providing savings both for the environment as well as for the operation. In looking towards creating a much more engaged workforce.

We have numbers to prove that with a 94% employee satisfaction in internal survey with over 6,000 respondents, and the perception of a very inclusive environment. Creating the basis for a future Oi that is well-positioned as well in terms of employee engagement. With a continued revamp of our corporate governance and the launch of several additional initiatives in the governance space to help Oi have a very solid and a very important governance components to help us look towards the future. Let's look where it matters. Where are we going?

In particular, when we look at this transformation journey that started with the plan in 2021, and it had the bulk of its execution during the whole last year, and now we are at the final stages of it. We can see that a lot was done. It was a very challenging and intense period, and we believe that we are now close to completing the most critical parts of our transformation plan. During all of 2021, we pretty much set out to do everything that we had set out to do with the amendment to the plan at the end of 2020. We delivered pretty much all of the milestones in 2021. We delivered the milestones of the first large close of the UPI mobile assets now at the beginning of Q2.

We have launched a new brands for Oi as soon as we close the mobile assets, UPI, communicating to the entire market that the new Oi will be focused on the digital life and on fiber broadband. We signed the term sheet with Sky for the TV business, and now we have a handful of additional actions to complete during Q2, including the Anatel approval by V.tal, which is expected for today in the ordinary meeting of the regulatory body. The closing of V.tal that we expect can still take place during the month of May. Finally, the end of the judicial reorganization of the company that was approved by the creditors in our 2020 plan to go all the way until the end of this month of May.

We will start what will be the new Oi pro forma results disclosure and short-term guidance as we close pretty much all of the important operations and restructuring operations and M&As that we included in our transformation plan. This will mean a new journey, and in the next page we can see that we will start 2022 with a brand new repositioning campaign. That is based on a clear vision, mission, and strategic objectives. When we look at what happened, it all started with the digital reorganization plan back in 2018. It converted into a strategic transformation plan between 2019 and 2020. It became a judicial recovery amendment at the end of 2020 and then being executed during 2021. Now we can go to finally building the new Oi.

The new Oi is based on a vision to be the leader in fiber optics connections and digital solutions that improve the lives of people and companies across the country, with a mission of creating new futures, bringing the digital life to everyone. To achieve this vision and mission, we have some very clear strategic pillars. We have the pillar of the core business acceleration with all of that we're doing in terms of fiber and that we're doing in terms of B2B. We are creating a new client-centric model without the infrastructure, so focusing entirely on being client-centric and developing new client solutions. We have the acceleration of new sources of revenue as an important components to complement our core revenues today. We are simplifying the company drastically with a new operating model to become a very solid and sustainable company.

Finally, we were addressing all of the concession issues and the legacy revenues and the legacy business that we have to become a truly sustainable company going forward. With all of that, we have launched the brand repositioning that will evolve until next year, signifying and implying and communicating a new company focused, of course, on improving people's lives, a partner for the digital life of everybody. Ultimately, we want Oi to be a company that is side by side all of its customer base, be it on the consumer side, be it on the small and medium enterprise and B2B side, but a completely transformed company with a future ahead, sustainable, completely transformed and delivering what we promise. In closing, we are almost completing the significant transformations we set out to do in 2020.

In 2022, we'll mark the beginning of a new journey. We remain confident and committed and expect that, after we turn the page on all of those extraordinary operations at the end of this month, this will mark the beginning of a truly new Oi. We will start to communicate with all of you in a completely different way, with new metrics, with a new form of presenting our results and obviously with a new future ahead of us. Thank you all. I believe we can now start the Q&A session.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Okay, Rodrigo. Now we'll begin the Q&A session. Please remember that questions should be asked in English only.

To get in line, in order to ask questions, please click on the Q&A icon at the bottom of your screen and write your name and company. After your name being announced, a request to activate your microphone will appear on the screen, and you must activate it to ask your question. Our first question comes from Lucas Sodré , sell-side analyst from UBS. We will now open your audio, Leonardo, so that you can ask your question.

Lucas Sodré
Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Hi. Hi, guys. Can you hear me?

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Yes, sure. You can go ahead with your question.

Lucas Sodré
Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Thanks for taking my.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Yeah. Thank you, Lucas Sodré.

Lucas Sodré
Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Okay, thanks for taking my questions. Can you discuss the deceleration of net adds in 4Q21? We were seeing a pace of around 110K a month in previous quarters. What can we expect for 2022? And if I may ask a second question, OpEx reduction was very strong in 4Q 2021. What additional factors could drive up that margin in 2022? And what level of margin can we expect for the full year? Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Lucas. Starting with your first question in terms of net adds. Obviously, we have managed to say this many times before, we knew that a net add rate of above 100K a month was not sustainable for the long term, and it was never in the plan. We never made a plan with over 100K net adds a month for the foreseeable future. Obviously, we had this very strong net adds rates at the beginning of the period, and leading us to get very fast to the 3 million homes connected level, and then close to the 4 million. We expected the deceleration because normally this is what's gonna happen.

We now are gonna start into a trajectory where the overall net adds for the market will slow down a little bit, and we'll have a slightly lower overall market number. It's not only Oi. It's the overall market number. On top of that, what we saw as well is on our side that we have started to apply much more stringent credit policies in acquisition in order to protect the customer base from delinquency and from elevated churn numbers. When you are creating the customer base, and you're fast expanding the customer base, is normal and expected to have high churn numbers. When you start to have a much larger customer base, to maintain the high churn numbers is obviously not positive to the ultimate results.

We have started to really pay a lot more attention to the credit policies to bring in now new customers with a much better profitability overall. That's why we have applied a new policies that will reduce slightly the number of our net adds. This new trends is in line with the overall market trend. It's nothing out of the ordinary. Obviously it is a more competitive environment. This is a second component, and we know that this would occur. We expect that there will be a peak of a competitive environment, a competition environment, which by the way is the period that we're living through right now.

We expect that in the coming future, there will be a little bit more rationality as players start to consolidate and start to understand that, contrary to what happens in mobile, where you basically have unused capacity being sold at discounted rates. In the case of fiber, this is not possible in the long term. We know that the fiber prices have to stabilize at a certain point, and we expect that some this increased rationality will start to play out as well in the coming years. We know that there will be a stabilization around a smaller rate of net adds, but this is obviously expected. Obviously, on our part, in terms of competitive actions, we have already started as well, a lot of competitive actions to react.

While in the past we were a net competitor in terms of just doing a very sharp conquest of market share, now we know that we have a much larger base to protect, and we're gonna have to do actions to do that as well. It is expected, and it's a matter of the overall market trends. On the OpEx side, obviously, there is still a significant period during this year, Lucas, in which we'll do streamlining of the internal operation after we close the two transactions and after we have the two operations out the door.

Because in addition to removing the costs from the two operations, the company that remains should be a much smaller company, much nimbler company in terms of costs. We can only operate on those costs, we can only actuate on those costs once we close the two transactions. We still have to do support for a number of operations that while the two operations were in-house, and as they go out, we obviously start to address what would be shared costs with the other components of our operation that can be reduced. We have provided guidance, and I believe that we continue to maintain this guidance that we see an evolution of the future EBITDA trends for the New Oi with an EBITDA target at the end of the period of close to 20%.

Close to 20% still is our target, remains our target in getting an EBITDA margin of close to 20% for the full New Oi operations at the end of the period. We know as well that this will be ramping up from low single digits or even high single digits or low double digits, and this will be slowly and gradually increasing to get the 20% level. This is the combination of what happens with EBITDA coming from legacy operations, which is a much smaller EBITDA margin, and the EBITDA coming from the new cores, which are a higher EBITDA margin, and then we expect to approach the 20%.

There's still a lot of things to do in terms of streamlining our cost structure internally as we remove all of the shared components that used to serve both mobile as well as the infrastructure and components of our business while we still have them in-house.

Lucas Sodré
Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Thank you. It was very clear. Thank you.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Okay, now our next question come from Carlos Sequeira, sell-side analyst from BTG Pactual. Cadu, we are now opening our.

Carlos Sequeira
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Hey, Marcelo.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Hi, Cadu. How are you?

Carlos Sequeira
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Hey, how are you?

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Sure, sure.

Carlos Sequeira
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

How's the day going?

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Continue on.

Carlos Sequeira
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

How are you doing, Chris and team? How are you? I have two questions, please. The one is on Anatel arbitration and the potential concession migration. If you could give us a little more color on where the process is, what we should expect going forward in terms of the arbitration being concluded and eventually, you know, Anatel regulating the potential migration. That's question number one. Two, you mentioned, or you just mentioned the adjustments, and you showed several numbers on the adjustment that the company's structure must go through now that you have, you know, sold so many large assets.

My question is, you know, you showed the savings, but how much money you have to invest to make these adjustments? If you can give us any idea of how much money you would need to deploy, invest to make these adjustments, please. Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Cadu. Addressing your first question, in terms of arbitration and concession migration, we have mentioned, Cadu, that unfortunately, those are not super short-term programs because they both depend on a lengthy process of, in the case of the arbitration, following the rules of the arbitration chamber. We expected at least two years of arbitration so we can start to have the first results either at the end of this year or the beginning of next year. This is going according to plan. The arbitration panel is defined. The arbitration contents are defined, and so the scope is fully defined. It was fully accepted.

Now, obviously, there is a full right of the arbitration that has to be followed. What we expect in terms of the arbitration is that throughout the course of the arbitration, it will be possible to touch on several different topics of the arbitration, because if you recall, the arbitration has four different topics, in order to produce partial results in terms of a partial definitions by the arbitration panel and the arbitration judges to understand what should be considered as a final arbitration result. Those intermediary or partial arbitration results will help us to engage and interact with Anatel in order to do some actions that will, we expect, anticipate some of the effects even without the end of the arbitration.

There are several things in the arbitration that pertain to regulations and norms that Anatel doesn't depend on law changes or other things to actually actuate. This is what we expect. The second thing is that we have to link the arbitration and the concession migration. This is true because in the concession migration, as you know, one of the key components of the concession migration is what are the costs or the investments that the concessionary should bring to the table in order to be allowed to migrate. If you recall the migration, it entails reducing the number of obligations and a number of other things which are negative for the concession today and that would not exist in the migration.

In exchange for that, the concessions would have to bring in new investments and to compensate that to maintain the overall equation of the concession. Obviously, we know that in order to do that, it's absolutely critical to have at least some of the partial results of the arbitration to show that some of those compensations would not be due, and that the arbitration, in our view, will be able to be carried out without any additional costs. Actually, we even believe that the arbitration will have to occur still with some costs to be compensated given the lack of sustainability of the whole concession for a number of years now. Those two are linked.

With that, with everything that happened last year, with the delay in the 5G process, with all of the operations, the approval of the operations that we have to have, obviously, the concession definitions by Anatel are also delayed, and we don't see them happening before the end of this year. When we link the two together, this means that when the migration definition of conditions finally comes, it will have to come already taking into consideration some of the results of the arbitration. And this is what, in our view, will allow us to be on a positive side, not to have to complement anything in terms of additional investments or costs to migrate.

In addition to that, let me comment something which is important because obviously we know that it is a complex process that has multiple components. What we're trying to do, Cadu, together with Anatel, and in some cases we will even go beyond that, to apply for regulatory changes, for legal changes that will allow us to do that. We want to eliminate some of the negative elements of the concession costs even before we have the final definitions of migration or arbitration. This is possible by addressing some things which have to do with the daily operation of the concession, including, just to give an example, the operation of payphones and public phones. In the case of payphones, we have been, for instance, substituting the old traditional payphones by IP phones.

Those IP phones are using now broadband technology in many cases or using wireless technology in many cases, and so greatly reducing the costs of maintenance. Obviously, this all depends as well of an engagement with the agency, so the agency can allow some of those changes to happen. We're doing that on a daily basis. We are trying to reduce the operational costs of the concession by doing several different changes in all different fronts, and doing everything that's already permitted according to the current concessional laws, even before we have the migration.

Another thing that we're doing, and we have announced that, and this is being carried out, is to gradually migrate all of the infrastructure we have, whenever possible, to technologies that are less expensive to maintain and are less subject to events such as theft and robbery. As what we're doing in the case of small central offices with a very small number of corporate customers to migrate them to wireless technology. With that, we reduce the maintenance costs, we reduce the operating costs, we reduce the theft rates, and we're doing that to eliminate and decommission central offices across the country. We obviously continue to provide the telephony service, the voice service, but based on different technological alternatives.

Obviously, whenever possible, we're migrating customers to fiber as well. In addition to that, we're addressing the plans in terms of fixed telephony to understand that we should be applying some price changes to the limits of what's permitted, or else we would simply be increasing the deficits in the copper operation. It's a combination of all of that. With this, we expect some changes to take place during this year, even before any result of migration or arbitration. Partial arbitration results and the definition of the migration conditions next year. It's a lengthy process, we know that, but we're trying to anticipate results of both processes as much as possible starting this year.

On your second question, Cadu, in terms of costs for segregating everything and for reducing OpEx, let me tell you that we have tried as much as possible to include all of those segregation costs and all of those investments as part of either the results last year. We did have some increases in expenses last year due to that, or as part of the operations themselves. When we close the operations, we're gonna have those costs included there in order to allow us to do the segregation, the separation. In addition to that, some investments are part of our budgeting for this year already.

That's why, for instance, you see in terms of the New Oi, you see, for last year, BRL 1.8 billion investment in terms of the New Oi, without mobile and without infrastructure. The reason for that is that those BRL 1.8 billion for last year, there were a significant portion of that invested in commissioning new IT systems to operate the New Oi and decommission legacy systems in doing the segregation so we can start to operate as an independent entity without infrastructure. We have been doing those investments over time. I don't see any significant additional investment that will have to be made in order for us to capture the benefits going forward as, because as we.

As I mentioned, we have been including those as part of the closing of the operations themselves.

Carlos Sequeira
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Perfect, Rodrigo. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Cadu. Our next questions come from Froylán Méndez , sell-side analyst from J.P. Morgan. Froylán, I will now open your audio. Can you hear us?

Froylán Méndez
Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi, guys. Can you hear me?

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Okay, great. Okay, you can proceed. Thank you.

Froylán Méndez
Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Thank you very much. Could you dig deeper into the competitive actions that you're undertaking to drive broadband adds acceleration? Maybe what you're doing and what you see other peers in the market doing. My second question is, can you share your view on how has client acquisition costs declined in broadband in the past year and what this means for your M&A strategy? Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Froylán. In terms of the competitive actions, there's not one single competitive action here, but we have many multiple fronts to actually address this. Starting obviously with one tool that we had in the belt but decided not to apply originally, which obviously is looking towards segmented pricing. We had a nationwide pricing that was used to really ramp up the base of 200 Mbps in BRL 99. We have now started to use different pricing for different regions in certain cases in order to react to more competitive offers on a regional scale. This obviously will be something that will be practiced carefully, but very strongly where needed.

Because obviously we know that in certain cases the competition is local, and we're gonna have to localize our commercial strategy, and we're doing that. We have not done that before because we were growing on a nationwide basis and having good results. We are curtailed from doing that. We have started to do that at the end of the year, and obviously it has some positive competitive impacts for us. In addition to that, we have been doing a significant revamp of our channels. By doing a revamp in the channels, this means inclusive doing changes in our compensation and our incentive strategy and our commission strategy towards different channels.

Obviously, we use multiple channels to address the market, including our own channels, both direct and indirect, as well as digital channels, as well as third-party channels. What we're doing, especially with the third-party channels, is to change the incentives modes of the different channels in order for us to be more aggressive in areas which are more competitive and slightly less aggressive in areas where we're less competitive. With that, obviously, we have been seeing significant response and much better results on a regional scale. In addition to that, we have been further extending the capillarity of our channels. We are now operating with much more capillary channels and developing new capillary channels in the areas where we're launching.

Obviously this is helping as well. Finally, we're doing localized communications as well. Again, we come from the big launch that we had 1-2 years ago with the nationwide campaigns and a single messaging to doing localized messaging and obviously guerrilla actions as well wherever needed. In addition to that, we have been emphasizing all of the superiority of our network in terms of quality and results, and obviously increasing the focus on the higher speeds. This is also another competitive action that we have been deploying.

We can see that in pretty much most of the country we are moving away from just the basic speed as being our speed of work or speed of resistance in terms of being the centerpiece of our communications to bringing 400 Mbps as the key speed for us to communicate. It's a mix of all of those actions. With that, we believe that we'll be able to react. It's obviously a situation where we're a challenger at the beginning, and now we're not a challenger anymore. We are starting to become a prominent player.

Obviously, with that, we have to do all of those changes to our go-to-market strategy in order to react. They're being made. In terms of acquisition, what we see here is, we're seeing a market consolidation potential for ISPs. That is happening. It's happening based on probably some metrics that in certain cases make sense, in some others they don't. They're based primarily on a multiple of subscribers. We believe that this is a very risky proposition because sometimes what we see is people just inflating prices based on acquiring unprofitable subscribers. Obviously we don't intend to do that.

That's why we said that we became more stringent in terms of new customers to our customer base. We believe that there is a limit to this movement because obviously there is only so much you can do with the continuous need for investments both in OpEx as well as in CapEx to be able to sustain growth. The one movement we did to sustain that is exactly the structural separation. The structural separation allow us to be very, very focused on customer acquisition on one end, without having to do all of the heavy lifting of the CapEx investments required to be able to operate in the entire country.

With that, we believe that we can counter the movements of some of the regional players, which will be limited naturally by the amount of CapEx that they can invest. Obviously, over time, we expect that the V.tal will be able to address part of this market, that it will become an addressable market for V.tal. At the very beginning, we believe it's a winning strategy because we get more oxygen to continue operating in new regions and to continue going after new subs. Obviously it's hard to do that when you don't have the investment capacity. This happens to be the case in many of the cases of the smaller or regional players.

Froylán Méndez
Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Thank you so much.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you.

Marcelo Ferreira
COO, Oi S.A.

Thank you. We are now finishing the Q&A session, and I will now pass the floor to Rodrigo for his final remarks. Please, Rodrigo, you can proceed.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi S.A.

Thank you, Marcelo. Again, thank you all for participating in our call again. I once more apologize for the delay we had in having this call. As I explained, it was due to a necessity of just dealing with the enormous complexity of all of the operations that we had. At the same time, I'll start to call the attention to what will happen next as we position as New Oi and as we revamp our entire communications to the market in terms of the metrics that we'll be following for this year. After the closing of all of the M&A operations, we expect to have a much more streamlined communications approach in terms of what we're doing and how we communicate our results.

It's a phase that we're leaving behind. It was a necessary phase to be able to look towards the future. We again are very committed, very confident about what we have been doing and can do in the future. It's now a very short stint to be able to complete everything that we set out to do back in 2020 and to start the life of the New Oi. Thank you all for being with us, and I'll see you again in the next quarter call.

Powered by