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Earnings Call: Q4 2019

Mar 26, 2020

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Oi S.A. Conference Call to discuss the fourth quarter of 2019 results. This event is also being broadcast simultaneously on the internet via webcast, which can be accessed on the company's IR website, www.oi.com.br/ri, together with the respective presentation. We would like to inform you that during the company's presentation, all participants will be only able to listen to the call. We will then begin the Q&A session when further instructions will be given. In case you need any assistance during this conference, please request the operator help by pressing the star zero. We also like to inform you that this conference will be conducted in English by the management of the company, and the conference call in Portuguese will be conducted via simultaneous translation.

This conference call may contain some forward-looking statements that are subject to known and unknown risks of and uncertainties that could cause such expectations to not materialize or differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Such statements speak only as for the date they are made. The company is under no obligation to update them in light of new information or future development. I will turn now the conference over to Mr. Rodrigo Abreu, CEO. Please, Mr. Rodrigo, you may proceed.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Hi, everybody. Good morning, and welcome to Oi's Fourth Quarter 2019 Conference Call. For obvious reasons, this is not your typical call because we are not in the middle of any ordinary period as we all know. Recently, the challenges of the new coronavirus pandemic are impacting the entire globe, and Brazil is no different. We believe that in the middle of all of this, we have kept our focus and we continue to move forward. While at the same time, we have a conscience that Oi and the entire telecom system, not only in Brazil but across the globe, is an important contributor to help us overcome these immediate challenges. In our particular case, with our infrastructure, with our services, with our enormous commitment from the entire team, we believe we're going to help make it pass.

Let's talk about last quarter and also about last year results and how they reflect the execution of our strategic transformation plan. Moving forward to page three, we can see that during the fourth quarter, we have several highlights that intensify the execution of our strategic plan and allowed us to go into 2020 with a very solid base. As stated before, we have four key pillars to executing our plan, and they're represented here in the boxes in the charts. The first pillar is the funding. On the funding front, we know from the last call we had in the third quarter that going into the end of 2019 and beginning of 2020, we had several challenges. Gladly, we were able to overcome many of those challenges and successfully executed an enormous part of our funding challenges. We closed the Unitel deal.

We received the fiscal Finep credits. We received a surplus distribution from our pension funds. We were able to close BRL 3.5 billion in a bridge loan at the very end, very beginning of the year. We started our real estate sales process. We still have several things to come. In reality, looking backward, we believe that we achieved close to 80% of what we were planned to do in terms of funding. The next pillar, obviously, is what we should do on a daily basis is the operations. On the operations, we believe we have very good operating metrics. In terms of the highlights, we can obviously point to the very good performance of the FTTH, and we will talk about the details later. We can talk about the great showing that our mobility operations had during 2019.

We can talk about the progress in B2B and in wholesale, we can finally point to how we're going to resolve the copper decline, which as we know, is a structural thing that will happen to our industry. The third pillar is based on efficiency and simplification. As I had stated when we announced our strategic plan, we had several areas of initiatives to reduce cost of the company, bring the company to a more lean operation, look at all of the different challenges we have to reduce cost and provide sustainability going forward. Finally, the last pillar are the strategic options we have as a company. When we weave everything together in terms of funding, operations, and efficiency, we have several strategic options going forward, and we also had several recent developments on the strategic fronts.

As you know, at the very end of 2019, we have applied for a judicial recovery extension, and this judicial recovery extension was granted to us, and this will allow us to hold a general creditor's meeting in order to obtain some plan amendments to give the company more flexibility with this GCM being expected for the second half of 2020. We also started a market sounding process for understanding the value of our mobile operations in case consolidation occurs in the markets. We started looking at several different strategic options for value maximization and progress, looking at our fiber operation and how can we receive more investment in the operation.

We also started a full regulatory campaign to help define the future impact of PLC, the new Brazilian telecoms law, and how this will help us address many of the sustainability issues in the concession in the copper business. Let's look into the execution of those, starting with the operation, and in particular, as a first highlight, with fiber. Moving on to the next page, page four, we can see that obviously we know fiber is at the core of the strategy, but the fiber project implementation, after the beginning last year, reached a cruise speed of around 400,000 homes passed and 100,000 homes connected per month, leading to great results in terms of operating metrics.

As we said the plan would do, we looked at the homes passed and said that we would get to over 4.5 million homes passed at the end of 2019. So we did. We got to 4.6 million homes passed. Looking forward to fourth quarter 2020, we expect this number to go all the way up to north of 8 million homes passed already. Next to the homes passed, the biggest metric that we have is obviously homes connected, which convert homes passed into subscribers. The results here have been tremendous as well. We can see that we started the year with a very small number of under 100,000 subscribers. We ended the year with close to 700,000 subscribers in fiber.

If this rhythm continues, we expect to get to the end of 2020 with close to 2 million homes connected, and a take-up rate of close to 20%. This is absolutely in line with what we said we would do in terms of our percentages for homes connected in the plan, which have a target of addressing 25% homes connected by the end of the three-year plan period. The next good operating metric that we were able to show as well regards the FTTH ARPU. Our plan calls for a BRL 85 per user ARPU, and we were able to deliver this ARPU almost to the spots.

We look at a published ARPU of BRL 83.3 per subscriber. When we do the pro forma adjustments for the promotions of the first month and the pro rata of the incoming customers, which obviously don't have revenue for the entire month, given the big growth that we have experienced, obviously, this goes back to BRL 85. Finally, we look at the impacts on revenue. On the revenue front, all of that has led us to come from a very, very small revenue in 2018 to over BRL 100 million of revenue, BRL 132 million to be more precise, in the fourth quarter of 2019. With a detail that will actually help us in another part of the business, in addition to the residential, we can see that the revenue breakdown already shows a component of SMEs as part of the fiber revenues.

Finally, all of that was achieved at our cost guidelines. We have been able to implement the homes passed, the homes connected, respecting the cost guidelines that we have announced during our plan last year, and even reducing these cost guidelines by a significant amount. We believe those are great operating metrics, and the project barely started at the beginning of 2019, accelerated by June, and we can see that, in fact, now we have a winner project going forward. On the next page, we can see that these results, in terms of benchmarking, already make our projects one of the largest fiber deployments globally, both in terms of speeds of homes passed and in terms of new customer connections.

If we look at a benchmark comparison with Q4 numbers, and we got four benchmarks here, two local and two in the U.S. markets, we can see that the number of homes connected that we showed during fourth quarter was enormous compared to any player, both local as well as international. As a result of that, in all the first 72 cities where we have FTTH, we have showed a very consistent broadband revenue growth. This is not only able to revert the trajectory in terms of broadband revenues, but to alleviate the trajectory of the loss of fixed voice revenue. These results actually position us really well to address the revenue profile change we are experiencing. In the next page, we can start to look at how this profile change is behaving. On the revenue side, obviously, we continue to be a big shift.

With the strong FTTH revenue growth, we are now at a 7.2% share of total residential net revenues in fiber. Obviously, the decline in legacy continues, and it reflects not only the structural trends, but also our revised approach to copper. We know that copper will structurally go down, and in order to actually be very efficient when dealing with this decline, we have reviewed everything we are doing on copper, in particular in terms of costs. We stopped selling proactively copper, and obviously this may have an initial impact in terms of just keeping this decline at a very steady pace. Looking forward, it will bring much better revenues for us at a much more efficient approach. When we look at the specific metrics on the copper front, we know that copper is going down, and it continues to go down very fast.

We can see that between the fourth quarter of 2018 and the fourth quarter of 2019, we had a close to 26% decline in copper voice revenues. A close to 21% decline in copper broadband revenues. Structurally, copper is going down regardless of which service is being served on top of it. Also structurally, DTH is going down, even if not as in an accelerated pace as copper, but structurally it will go down. We went down probably less than the market, but still show the decline of close to 3.5%, 3.3% to be more precise, in the fourth quarter of 2019. With all of that, we can see that FTTH revenue is the path to actually compensate this in the mid to long term. Now we have a great performance in FTTH revenue with a 700%+ growth.

Although obviously with a much smaller customer base, the year-over-year growth in fiber revenues almost already offset the decline in copper broadband revenues. This is going to happen anytime soon. With the follow-up of the number of homes passed and homes connected, obviously we expect that the FTTH will be the big single component that will be able to compensate the declining legacy revenues. As we have started in the last quarter, on the right-hand side, we present the entire profile of our residential revenues and how they have been changing. Obviously, we can see that on the gray bars, we faced a 19% combined decline of our legacy revenues. On the green line, which represents the future, as stated, an 8x increase in terms of revenue.

This represents not only a path to achieving or getting close to BRL 1 billion revenues this year, but look into next year with the great potential of reversing this revenue trend. Most likely this year still impacted, obviously the revenues, but this year 2020. FTTH can shift this and we have confidence in making it happen now with our current trends of FTTH performance. To our second business component, now let's talk about the mobile performance in the next slide. Moving on to page seven, we can see that mobile also had a great performance in 2019. Our mobility revenues reversed the trend, presenting growth year-over-year, driven primarily by our robust results in postpaid.

As we have been calling the attention to our performance, the full year 2019 postpaid share of net adds for Oi was the second-best in the market, with 31%, well ahead of very traditional players in the mobile space. This obviously led to a significant growth in our postpaid customer base, over 23% growth in our customer base, which also had good quality coming into it. When we look at our postpaid FTD trends, the first time and default trends, we can see that we achieved this big growth while reducing the FTD trends and maintaining the stability of our bad debts. All of that translated into great postpaid revenue increase of close to 15% and a much better revenue mix on mobile overall.

With all of these results, even with the prepaid shrinking, and it's shrinking pretty much for the entire market, we can see that we gained shares, both in prepaid as well as in postpaid. Gaining share in a mature market, it's something extraordinarily difficult. Obviously we know that this is a significant achievement for our mobile business. All in all, after all of this, we can see that we grew our mobile customer revenues, even with the prepaid shrinking, as we mentioned. Now, next page, let's look at B2B. Moving on to page eight, we can see that our B2B revenues are also back to growth, especially due to the good performance on corporate sales of digital and IT solutions. As we have announced at the end of the year during Q4, we relaunched our corporate operation, rebranding it Oi Soluções.

The Oi Soluções has not only a very dedicated approach to the corporate segment, but an extensive portfolio review with a renewed emphasis on ICT and new solutions, in addition to a new organization that's entirely focused on the corporate markets. We can see that this already started to show us very positive trends, starting with the corporate revenue trends, which presented growth. The corporate revenue mix, which presents a big increase in the IT component of the revenues, transforming us into a much more integrated player in the segments. If we look at the IT net revenue trends, we can see that the trend not only accelerated but continued to be at a very fast pace. All of that led to a growth in corporate revenues of 17%, give or take, even while the SME revenues had a reduction of 25%.

We know that the SMEs are still facing a turnaround in terms of our operation. It suffers from many of the same issues that the copper business presents. This turnaround will be faced also with the help of FTTH. As in one of the previous charts, we already showed that we started to sell FTTH connections into SMEs as well. All in all, we had growth in the total B2B revenues, albeit a small growth because of the SME decline. We believe that it's going to be possible not only for us to continue to sustain this business, but to look for moderate growth in the near future. Finally, the last component of our core business and one which is greatly based on fiber is wholesale, and we can see the wholesale results in the next page nine. 2019 for wholesale was a transition year.

It was a transition year where our strategy focused on the unregulated markets coming from a very high percentage of regulated revenue before. We are now leveraging our infrastructure leadership and offerings for high growth demand areas, which happens to be all unregulated. We see that the regulated revenues had a decline of 40%. The unregulated revenues remained stable, and our infrastructure rental revenues grew by over 20%. When we look at the unregulated revenues, we know that the stability is due to a shift in profile of our approach to the market, in particular to bringing renewed emphasis to the wholesale business, which in the recent past was not one of our primary focus of performance and attention in the markets.

With our new portfolio, we expect the wholesale to face great opportunities in fiber to the ISP, fiber to the tower, fiber to the city, and also when launching a franchise project to address the several different areas in the country where we will not be able to get directly your retail connections. Obviously, they represent a tremendous opportunity for us. All in all, the wholesale revenues were relatively stable. We consider the mediation impact adjustments of our one-off adjustments from previous contracts. We can see that we even grew a little bit. The revenue mix is now going forward much, much healthier than before. Finally, let's look at how we're addressing the legacy challenges which come with the concession and everything that's associated with our copper businesses.

On page 10, we can see that when talking about our revenues, legacy will structurally go down. Now we know that this is a fact. The only way we can address this is by looking at the cost reduction in the legacy businesses facing full on the current concession shortcomings. We know that most of the issues we currently have of reducing costs in the copper business are associated with how the concession actually imposes many obligations to us in serving fixed voice, obviously the impact it has in generating negative returns for us going forward. Here in this chart, we have tried to graphically depict what is Oi's concession timeline and how it has behaved over three different periods over time. The first one was at the very beginning of the concession, a period where a lot of investments were done to meet the regulatory demands.

The second one was a period of a fast growth, and a lot of returns in terms of capturing the growth of the market, in particular, not only the voice market, but the copper broadband markets. This second stage was also marked by maturity and a decline of the concession results due to a number of things, including increased competition, the arrival of new technologies, and the decline of copper as a viable technology, the change in the customer's consumption profile, and in particular, especially towards the end of the period, due to a lack of adequate regulatory evolutions, including heavy obligations, heavy fines, heavy SLAs, pay phones and the like, which put the concession at a marked disadvantage and in an unsustainable return position going forward.

Finally, the third period is the period we're now currently in, and it started at some point around 2016, and we can see that the concession returns are no longer sustainable because there is a deep imbalance between revenues, cost, CapEx, obligations, and cash needs. What do we do to address this? As we saw, pretty much all of the components of our core businesses in terms of fiber as well as mobile are having very good operating metrics. How can we actually apply the same logic and reverse the negative results in copper and the concession here?

We are looking at three different things. A first thing is a project I'm going to comment in the next page about, which we call de-averaging, which is really analyzing the problem in its many individual components and not just looking at the average results of the combined copper revenues and costs. The second is a very proactive approach to regulatory action. We know that with the approval of PLC 79 last year, we have a very good first step into helping us address the regulatory issues with the concession. Anatel still needs to regulate PLC. This is going to be done during this year. We are interacting in a very proactive way with the regulator in order to provide our contributions on how we can turn this issue with the concession forward.

Finally, we are adopting a number of operational efficiency plans to mitigate the negative NPV impact generated by the concession operation today. On the next page, we can see what is the de-averaging that we are talking about. This de-averaging means a detailed big data analysis of all of the revenue and cost elements of the concession, including an approach to its very granular level of the individual central office source station throughout the country.

Throughout the country, we have almost 18,000 central offices and stations. When we analyze them individually, understanding which revenue they generate, how many customers we have in each, what is the individual maintenance cost of each, what are the obligations we have in each, we can actually split this 18,000 central offices and stations into different groups, which are a profitable group, where obviously we have to still selectively invest to protect our customer base to preserve cash as best as possible. A second and third groups which are not profitable but can be optimized. In the second group, we have interrupted all of the proactive sales of copper to reduce the running costs going forward and to the extent possible, also optimizing maintenance costs. The last group, which is a group that's intrinsically unprofitable because of a critical lack of scale.

We have to adopt a carrier of last resort mechanism in sync with regulatory evolution, because we believe it doesn't make sense for the company to continue to have obligations in areas where there are multiple alternatives to providing service to cover for the voice needs of the entire customer base. With all of that, we know it's not an easy project, but we are investing a lot in it because we believe that the potential cash cost savings of this approach will be in the range of BRL 500 million in the short to medium term, and closer to BRL 1 billion in the medium long term.

To allow for all of that, we need to be very efficient with our CapEx, very efficient with our operation, very efficient with our cash, very efficient with our financial metrics because we are still in the middle of a transition period for our numbers and our financial metrics. Gladly, we are seeing and we are presenting and demonstrating that the operating metrics have been here. When we talk about the financial metrics and the CapEx investments and the cash results, I would like to turn over the work to Camille, our CFO, and she's going to lead us to the next slide to talk about CapEx cash and our financial results. Camille?

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

Thank you, Rodrigo. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for being on our call. Going to our CapEx on slide 12, we closed 2019 with BRL 7.8 billion in CapEx. This was a 29% growth with respect to 2018. This increase was driven by our strong fiber deployment that Rodrigo talked about in the previous slides throughout the year. Fiber investments represented 39% of our total CapEx in the year of 2019. On the other products, we managed to leverage on our capillarity and existing infrastructure, to optimize CapEx and reduce CapEx across all other products except for B2B, which presented a slight BRL 166 million increase necessary to support corporate revenue growth that we also saw on the previous slides. Our plan for 2020 is to optimize our CapEx even further, reaching a total of BRL 7 billion.

More importantly, we are increasing not only the percentage, but also the total amount dedicated to our continued fiber deployment. Oi is already present in 2,200 cities with its fiber transmission network, covering roughly 55 million homes. This enables us to significantly accelerate our FTTH deployment. With our reuse model, we are able to be much more efficient in terms of our time to market in new cities. We reached FTTH presence in 80 cities already in the end of 2019, and plan to be in an additional 44 new cities in 2020, with presence in all states of the country, except for São Paulo, as our strategic plan. Moving to slide 13, we're going to talk a little bit about our funding strategy and cash position.

As Rodrigo mentioned, the recent successful execution of our short-term funding strategy enabled the company to migrate to a much more comfortable cash position in early 2020, which allows us to fully focus on the execution of our strategic plan for this year. Although we closed our official 2019 balance sheet with a BRL 2.3 billion cash position, which is close to what we consider the minimum level for us to comfortably operate, this was due to the slight delay in the closing of the sale of Unitel, which we had been planning for end of 2019, and ended up occurring right after the end of the year on January 24th.

We received BRL 760 million in the closing of Unitel on January 24th, already received two of the six remaining BRL 40 million monthly installments in February and in March, expect to continue to receive the four remaining installments until the end of July. In early 2020, we also disbursed the additional 2.5 credit line, the bridge loan, allowed in our JR plan, sold a piece of real estate in Botafogo for BRL 120 million. With the January Unitel proceeds, these two other transactions, our pro forma cash position would have been BRL 8 billion. Our debt position increased to BRL 18.2 billion during the quarter, this was mainly through natural movements in our debt, interest accrual, FX variation, and the fair value amortization.

Our net debt reached BRL 15.9 billion in the quarter without, let's say, the pro forma cash adjustments. Having said that, we continue on our funding strategy with the short-term expected catalyst being the sale of mobile towers, which we are on track and expect to be able to announce in early April. The sale of the data centers, which we are in the middle of the process with the announcement still expected for the second quarter of 2020, and the real estate efforts, which we expect to generate another BRL 300 million over the next few months. We continue to use the PIS/Cofins tax credits, which we already mentioned in our last earnings call, and we continue to use it at a pace of around BRL 100 million a month.

We already started to receive the monthly payments of the announced Sistel surplus for a total of BRL 669 million, and we are receiving the monthly installments at a pace of BRL 19 million a month, and that already started in December and keeps on going. Moving to slide 14, let's look at our OpEx. Operational efficiency and the digitalization initiatives already started producing cost savings. We managed to optimize all cost lines in the fourth quarter 2019 with respect to the fourth quarter 2018, except for marketing costs, with a BRL 19 million increase necessary to support our growth, mainly in fiber and mobile. Our EBITDA reached BRL 4.51 billion in 2019, BRL 1 billion in the quarter, BRL 4.5 billion being the bottom of our guidance, but within our guidance, as we had anticipated in our third quarter 2019 release. With that, I'll turn the presentation back to our CEO.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Camille. Well, we talked about our funding pillar, we talked about the operating metrics, we talked about the results that those operating metrics generated and the financial results. Now let's talk about, on page 15, our third pillar of the plan execution, which is efficiency and simplification. In the fourth quarter, we kicked off many initiatives as we said we would, and as stated before, in key different areas of efficiency and simplification. Starting with sales, marketing, and customer service, we continued on our portfolio simplification, reduced the legacy portfolio, and accelerated the digital sales channels as part of the initiatives. This continues to have an estimated impact in 2020 annualized numbers of between BRL 150 million and BRL 200 million a year. In particular here, I'd like to highlight, as I already mentioned, the complete interruption of the proactive selling of copper services.

In the first moment, while this reduces obviously the number of copper users and pretty much accentuates the decline in the copper customer base, it generates value for us because it reduces dramatically the cost in terms of copper sales. In the end, this will provide value to the company in terms of cash preservation. On the second area, process and organization, we continue with our ongoing simplification efforts and organization changes are being implemented. Tomorrow we will announce slight changes in our organizational structure with a dedicated focus on transformation and digital, with a dedicated focus on wholesale and franchises, and with a simplification of our structure overall. Through a review of the company's processes and the implementation of a centralized automation initiative, we expect as well to have in 2020 an annualized impact again between BRL 100 million and BRL 150 million.

On the business support front, we kicked off many different initiatives, including the implementation of a CSC for common support functions across all companies, not only Oi, but as well our service companies, Serede Conecta and BTCC Call Center. We started a supply chain efficiency project at the very beginning of 2020, and we expect significant results from it in the mid to long term. We started back-office reductions through automation and extension of BPO contracts, and we also kicked off many energy efficiency initiatives, including a recent contract for self-generation. All of that, again, looking at 2020, will have an estimated annualized impact of between BRL 150 million and BRL 300 million a year. On IT, we already reduced or interrupted the most of our IT legacy projects, and this has a rate of reduction in new IT projects over the last quarter of more than 50%.

This is significant cash savings and as well, a way to point to a new IT stack for fiber operations, which is leaner, simpler, and more efficient. We also elevated our digital initiatives to the company-wide effort, as already mentioned, to a dedicated unit as part of our operating structure. Finally, on network and operations, we continued optimizing decommissioning legacy networks, and in particular here, the de-averaging approach will help us tremendously to reduce operating costs in the field and decommission of legacy equipment.

All of that has led to metrics that start to show progress, and we provided several different metrics, selected metrics on the right-hand side, where you can see the progress in many of those fronts, including the percentage of fiber and broadband activations, which grew 60%, the percentage of our residential base in flat rate in terms of portfolio simplification, which had a reduction of 30%. An improvement of 30%, sorry. The call volume is human customer service, which had a reduction of -20%. The percentage of digital invoices that had an increase in 14 percentage points. Bad debt that went down as a percentage of revenues. The energy costs that have been reduced. The percentage of agile IT, which has increased significantly. The percentage of repairs by FTTH customer base that went down. The fiber technical support to digital channels that has increased tremendously.

Here, a curiosity, out of the last two weeks when we initiated this Corona crisis, the downloads of our virtual technician through a mobile app have increased by 200%, reaching levels of close to 200,000 downloads. The percentage of repeated technical calls that also continues to go down. All in all, we continue to present very good operating metrics that demonstrate that we are making progress in terms of cost reduction. Before closing, we really need to talk about the current crisis scenario. We know it is expected for us to talk about it. In the next page, we can give you a view of how we're facing it at the current moment. Moving on to page 16. We know that for all of us, this is an unprecedented global scenario. It quickly escalated to a global pandemic crisis.

It provided shutdowns, it provided fear, and overall, it provided a great level of uncertainty. We know this uncertainty needs to be addressed. In the face of the global pandemic, what we did two weeks ago, or over two weeks ago, is we quickly established a crisis response team. We have a crisis room, we have a crisis committee, and we are focusing both on ensuring the full business continuity for the operations of the company, as well as a formal process to monitor, analyze, and respond to the potential impacts with appropriate contingency plans in all fronts. Here, I'd like to highlight two very different fronts in which we are taking those measures. The first one is obviously on operations and business continuity. Above all, our key priority when we established all of this crisis monitoring and committee was, and is our people.

We obviously are very concerned about the safety of our people. We have taken all of the different measures to be able to protect our team, to protect our employees, to protect our partners. We have provided adequate supports to our field teams, which we know are part of an essential service in the middle of this crisis. We have taken measures to adequate our call center operations. We have initiated a company-wide home office effort that has now more than 70% of our employees are working remotely in record time. This has been our key priority, and it should be, and should continue to be our key priority going forward.

Obviously, in addition to that, we also have a great attention to our network and field operations, to our infrastructure, which we know is going to be critical to help us all support the great challenges that all companies and people have during this difficult time. In terms of our network, I am glad to mention that we operated very quickly to engage into a monitoring of the demands on our network to very quickly activate new circuits in our backbone. So far, we have not only been able to maintain the quality of our network, but we have been able to contribute to the stability of the connections and all of our services. We have also looked at our business support. We have also looked at our customer care operations. In particular, we have communicated very extensively both internally and externally.

Finally, on the operations and business continuity, I know that this may be a question that many investors have, is what is happening to our commercial operations, both in terms of sales and revenues. Here, we believe that the telecom sector, fortunately, is on the right side of the demand curve. In the middle of this crisis, our services are more necessary than ever. We can see this in the increased attention and demand for fiber connections, for example, both from individuals and residential fiber connections, as well as from companies and enterprises trying to establish remote work operations. Obviously, we also know that there may be an impact here in terms of the ability to pay of many of our low-income customers.

We know that there will be challenges in terms of continuing sales operations, in particular with the restriction of movement for a short period of time going forward. We have quickly reestablished the priorities of our operation to maintain and sustain the rate of our commercial operations to as close to normality as possible, in particular on the fiber operation, and we have been able to do that so far. On the mobile front though, obviously, the mobile front suffers in terms of sales because of the closing of stores and the restriction of movement. In reality, this reduction in terms of mobile sales also come with a corresponding reduction in churn, as pretty much the market is stable.

In this regard here, I would like to highlight something that all of the operators in Brazil, all of the four large operators and the additional operators in the Brazilian telecommunications ecosystem have done. For a moment, we have put competition in second plan. We have joined forces. We are working together on a daily basis to guarantee that the Brazilian telecommunication system is in fact a relief during this moment of crisis. We have launched a joint campaign to support all of the different requirements in terms of communication needs during this crisis in the next weeks that we're going to have to face together.

The second component of response is obviously the strategic response, and we know that while it's absolutely critical for us to maintain our operations and business continuity, we also have to analyze what does this mean for us in terms of strategy, in terms of the financial analysis, and in terms of regulatory and institutional actions. Here, the sector has again joined forces to make sure that we have the appropriate regulatory and institutional actions in place, including declaring the telecom sector an essential sector to the country. This will allow us to have relief in several different areas, all the way from regulatory obligations as well as potentially some relief in terms of financial response to the crisis that all of us must have. All in all, we know that there's still much to be assessed in the middle of this crisis.

It's very hard to tell what will be the exact impacts to every operation and to every component of the operation. We're certainly working very diligently to face it, and we are preparing our contingency plans to be able to address this as best as possible. We believe so far we have been able to do that. On the next page, let's then come to a close. On page 17, we can see that as a summary, we continue to execute diligently on our strategic plan. We put a strategic plan in place in the middle of 2019, and we have focused relentlessly on its pillars. With funding, with operations, with efficiency and simplification. Now with the next big focus on our strategic options going forward.

Just as a heads up, we believe that we will have our general creditors meeting in the second half of this year. The courts have already approved a period of no more than 180 plus 60 days to hold this GCM. We are working very diligently to finalize our proposal for the GCM, which should be presented to the market. This proposed plan, without any question, will bring the company a lot of flexibility and actually make everybody better off in order to accelerate the execution of our plan and maximize the value creation, both for shareholders and for debtholders. We continue with our market sounding process for the mobile business during the first quarter. We have received, as adequately communicated to the market, our first non-binding manifestations of interested parties.

We are now looking also, as properly communicated to the market, capital structure alternatives to accelerate our fiber projects. We know that these are not easy times, but we have been keeping our focus, we have been keeping our dedication, we have a dedicated team, we have great assets, and we also have the confidence that we are doing the right thing and that we're going to continue to successfully execute our plan. That's it for the initial summary, and I believe that now we can go to our questions and answer session. Thank you, everybody.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the Q&A session for investors and analysts. Remember that questions should be asked in English. If you'd like to ask a question by telephone, please dial star one on your phone. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove your question from the queue by pressing the pound key. Our first question is from Fred Mendes from Bradesco BBI. Fred, you may proceed.

Fred Mendes
VP, Bradesco BBI

Hello. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for the call. I have two questions here on my side. The first one, you mentioned that today you have an overall gross debt of BRL 18 billion, give or take. Just wondering how much of that is in U.S. dollars terms, and what is the hedge for it? That will be my first question. Also in the presentation, you do mention about a CapEx of BRL 7 billion for 2020. A part of it is related to copper. Just wondering, do you see room to deliver even a lower CapEx than that? Of course, if you do sell the mobile operations, you should have a lower CapEx. Just wondering, especially related to the CapEx of the copper, what exactly is that? Is it basically a regulatory CapEx? If you see room for a lower CapEx on that front.

Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Let me pass over to Camille to talk about the debt, and then I'll talk to you about our CapEx.

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

Thank you, Fred. Today we have basically three types of debt denominated in U.S. dollars. We have our outstanding 2025 bonds. We have our debt with the ECAs. That was in December, right? As of January already, we also have the BRL 2.5 billion bridge loan, which is denominated in reais, but follows the U.S. dollar variation. I'll give you the participation of those lines in the total debt in a while I talk about our hedging strategy. For today, we are protected in terms of the cash flows for 2020, both in terms of interest as well as OpEx that we have denominated in U.S. dollars. What we've done is we've established a natural hedge for the cash flows of 2020 by leaving a percentage of the Unitel proceeds outside of the country in U.S. dollars.

We are fully hedged in terms of outgoing cash flows in U.S. dollars for 2020. With respect to that to our balance sheet, unfortunately, we will see some balance sheet volatility due to effects to the real devaluation. I think it's important to remember that we don't have any short-term amortizations of our debt denominated in foreign currency. That for now, it's just an accounting effect. We don't have any cash effect by not having hedged our balance sheet.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Camille. Fred, when we talk about CapEx, obviously we can see that we did have an increase in CapEx last year as compared to what we were originally saying. We went up all the way to BRL 7.8 billion. This increase in CapEx was primarily to kickstart our fiber plan. We saw a great opportunity to accelerate our fiber plan and to get a much better run rates to go into 2020. We did that. We seized the opportunity. We were able to really increase the speed of homes passed, homes connection, and now we are at good speeds. We took this chance. We knew that it would be a little bit of a sacrifice in terms of cash. It would be of extreme importance for our strategic plan going forward. We did it.

When we look at 2020, going back to the BRL 7 billion, it's part of the original plan, obviously what changes here is the profile of the CapEx. Fiber continues to increase as a total percentage of our CapEx and will be the primary component for the next several years. This may even accelerate during the year. When we look at, obviously, mobile, we do have a mobile CapEx there as part of the plan because we need to continue sustaining the value and approaching the opportunity areas in our mobile space, in particular with refarming. We have announced that. It's obviously something there that we will manage with a lot of care and attention, but it's something that can and has been generating very good results to us.

When we look at the other components of CapEx, in particular you mentioned copper and corporate, what's happening with copper and corporate there? The first one, when we talk about copper, obviously we want and are working very hard to reduce as much as possible our copper CapEx. Unfortunately, as I mentioned during the concession explanation, there is still a significant amount of regulatory CapEx. This regulatory CapEx goes to maintaining fiber networks, to maintaining payphones. Believe it or not, yes, we still maintain and have to replace a number of payphones, to maintaining central office switches, even in areas where it doesn't make any sense in terms of returns.

Obviously, we need to continue to do that because of the regulatory obligations, and this is an area where obviously we're working and trying to work with Anatel as well, to be able to not only significantly diminish that, but to do that not only with our own operational assets, but to do that based as well as some regulatory relief, because it doesn't make sense to keep addressing a significant amount of CapEx to a business that is dying, that doesn't even serve, in many cases, a social function anymore. When we look at corporate, obviously, corporate is an area of focus for us going forward. When you see this CapEx increasing here, it's because obviously, as you know, the corporate segment has multi-year contracts. We're talking about five-year contracts, six-year contracts, four-year contracts.

In reality, if you're growing, this obviously consumes CapEx at the beginning and brings significant results and return on investment going forward. That's the only reason why. It's not a significant increase. It's pretty much a stable level of CapEx for the corporate segment this year. What we have been doing as well is an overall CapEx efficiency project in terms of reducing the cost based on negotiations and supply chain efficiency, and this will be applied to everything we do. We have been also obviously privileging on the corporate side CapEx projects that have shorter returns. Obviously, the overall return on investment is the key priority in terms of analysis, but the shorter returns have been privileged in terms of our focus, attention, dedication to closing corporate projects. Not sure if this responds to your question, Fred.

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

Rodrigo, just to complement my previous question. As of December, the figure that you see in our presentation, 52% of the BRL 18 point something billion are denominated in foreign currency. Of the BRL 18.2 billion, sorry.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Sorry, Camille. 52%, right? In USD.

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

52%. Five two. Correct.

Fred Mendes
VP, Bradesco BBI

Perfect. Very clear. Thank you, Camille. Thank you, Rodrigo.

Operator

Thank you, Fred. Our next question is from Susana from Itaú. Susana, you may proceed.

Susana Salaru
SVP of Equity Research, Itaú BBA

Hello, can you hear me now?

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Yes. Hi, Susana. Good morning.

Susana Salaru
SVP of Equity Research, Itaú BBA

Hi, Rodrigo. Hi, Camille. Good morning. Thank you for taking our questions. Our first question is related to the FTTH take-up. We saw that the most recent cohorts are actually being much more efficient in terms of take-up than the oldest cohort. What are the factors that are actually justifying this take-up rate? If it's different competition, different region, or if there is some kind of a commercial activity? That would be our first question. The second question is related to the CapEx optimization, this reduction from BRL 7.8 billion -BRL 7 billion in 2020. The optimization was because you were able to renegotiate the contracts with the vendors, or you are actually reducing the scope of the CapEx that we are going to use in 2020. Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Susana. To your two points, on the FTTH take-up, you're right, our most recent cohorts have presented a great improvement in terms of the initial take-up rates. This is due to a number of factors, but in particular, because we are on a fast-learning curve here. Obviously, for us to address the take-up rates of our deployments, there are several components, including where do we lay up our fiber, lay out the fiber originally? How do we do it? What type of approach do we do? What type of units do we approach? What type of sales channels do we use? Do we go with door-to-door in different areas? Do we go with telesales in other areas and so on and so forth. In reality, there is multiple things here to fine-tune when actually moving forward in the deployment of fiber.

We have been pretty much fine-tuning all of these. It's natural that our most recent cohorts actually not only present a much better commercial efficiency, a much better precision in terms of where we're laying fiber and how we're actually addressing our addressable targets. With the awareness of the broadband fiber as a viable product for customers as well, we have been seeing that just the awareness of the product has helped increase the take-up rates as well. It's not a single factor. It's a combination of all of the factors, but the most important thing is that this has been a consistent trend. For every new cohort, we actually are reaching better numbers. When we look at the older cohorts, what we are doing as well, and this is showing in our numbers in terms of the cruise speeds.

We go back to the old cohorts, and we also fine-tune our commercial operation in the old cohorts as well. We can see that not only we're able to be more efficient in the new places where we're laying fiber, but we can go back to the areas where we already have fiber, to address these areas with all of the new learnings from the areas where we have been having very good results. We're very confident that when we talk about the 25% penetration in three years, that we're going to get there. I have no question that we're going to get there. As to your CapEx question, as I mentioned, Susana, the BRL 7.8 billion was an exceptional year in terms of CapEx deployment because we had an opportunity to accelerate our fiber deployment.

If we were to go according to the original plan that was done at the beginning of the year, we would have ended 2019 with close to 3.5 million homes passed. We were able to accelerate that by over 1 million homes passed. That was what required initially an increase in the fiber CapEx, because if you look at all of the other CapEx components, they still have not been reduced. It's not that we're going to do less CapEx in terms of fiber this year because the CapEx is going down. It's we're going to do less of pretty much everything else, and we're going to maintain or even increase our fiber CapEx. The BRL 7 billion is not a concern for us in terms of how much do we need to invest to be able to fulfill our strategic plan.

Obviously, this is an observation that it depends obviously on a number of things in terms of scenarios going forward. We know that depending on how well we go with the different engagements of the regulatory action or the averaging approach on the copper and the concession initiatives as well, we may be able to further reduce, for instance, regulatory CapEx or legacy CapEx, to be able to maintain our envelope more efficient than ever. The one thing we have been doing here as well in terms of reduction, you mentioned negotiations with suppliers and the like. Even though when we look at the BRL 7 billion-BRL 7.8 billion, the key component is not a renegotiation.

The key thing is that everything we're doing in fiber, we're not only doing it with a better learning curve on the deployment and on the sales, but we're also doing it with a better learning curve on the cost components of the CapEx. Right now, for instance, we're already operating with a much lower rate of cost per home connected and cost per home passed.

Susana Salaru
SVP of Equity Research, Itaú BBA

Merci, Rodrigo. Very clear. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question is from Marcelo Santos from Banco JP Morgan. Marcelo Santos, you may proceed.

Marcelo Santos
Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi. Thanks for the questions. Good morning, Rodrigo, Camille. I have two questions. First, if possible for you to explore a bit more difference in the impact of COVID-19 on the sales of mobile and the fiber. Somehow you mentioned the fiber you will be able to keep the deployment. What are differences that cause this different behavior? If you could expand a bit more on this. The second question would be about the partnership with MOB, I don't know exactly how to spell, on the wholesale to address regions that you wouldn't address. When you do this kind of partnership, what could you share about the economics? Like, how much of the revenues, costs, and CapEx percentually stay with you versus the partner, or what kind of returns do you get?

Any color would be interesting. Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Marcelo. On the first question, in terms of the impact of this whole pandemic on sales, it's different because of the different sales channels. Obviously, when we look at mobile, the key mobile sales channels are our own stores, our partner stores, and what we call the small retail, which are pretty much representatives and stands and booths and small stores, and they all depend on traffic. They all depend on people moving and coming and going. Obviously, this represents the vast majority of mobile sales because of the requirement of getting the SIM card.

Obviously the SIM card requires, for the most part, a physical dislocation, given that even though digital sales and e-commerce on mobile is growing, the logistics cost of that, if we consider that just sending a SIM card to the home of the consumer has a much higher cost than originally would be involved into a physical store sale. Obviously, the physical stores and the physical points of sale have a disproportionate participation in terms of mobile sales. When you interrupt the traffic and you interrupt people going out, and when you actually close stores, because at this point, we have 100% of our own stores closed. This is obviously for the protection of our own team, but also because in many areas, there are restrictions for retail to be open. It's natural that we have a much higher impact on mobile than on fiber.

On fiber, even though we have a door-to-door sales channel, and it is an effective channel, we also have a much, much higher number of sales, both in digital sales as well as in telephone sales, call center sales. Obviously, as this is something that you need to actually communicate to somebody and schedule an installation and understand the product, it is an indirect sale which does not require a physical presence. It's a lot less impacted by the overall restrictions we have on mobility in our cities. In addition to that, obviously, we have been seeing that not only that, but when we look at the mobile sector, the mobile sector is really well penetrated, as we know. Many of the sales now are being conversions from prepaid to postpaid and a little bit of competitive movement from side to side.

We've been able to gain share last year, even though the market as a whole has shrunk. When we look at the period of crisis, it's not that people are not having access to mobile phones. They do. It's just that there is a lot less movement between operators, a lot less churn, a lot less migration from carrier to carrier. In the case of broadband, we still have a significant unfulfilled demand, and actually this is what actually makes for the great opportunity we have in FTTH. A gigantic number of customers still have very low-speed broadband at home, based on copper or based on old technology. When, especially in a time where we have the need to stay at home and the need to be connected, the demand increases. It goes counter many different factors, the demand in broadband increases and increases significantly.

Even with all of the restrictions we have in terms of door-to-door sales and all of that, we do have an increase in demand that pretty much compensates for this restriction in some of our sales channels for fiber. As well as for the partnership with MOB Telecom. MOB Telecom is a significant player in the so-called group of independent internet service providers in Brazil. When we know that the opportunity for FTTH and for fiber is much, much bigger than what our plan entails, even for the next three-four years. We have said that we want to cover in three years, 16 million homes passed, but we see 40 million homes viable.

We knew that we should be able to address the remaining areas where we do not provide retail service directly, at least at the very beginning. We knew that there should be ways to address those in partnership with the local ISPs. By doing that, we kick off a franchise project which will pretty much have two types of model. The MOB partnership is the first model we have. The two models. First one is a model where we get an existing ISP with an established brand, such as MOB Telecom. We do a partnership to help them grow in terms of the basic infrastructure. We provide the backbone capacity, we provide data connectivity, we provide access to our locations and co-hosting of facilities. They obviously do the last mile, and they continue to expand on their businesses.

By doing that, they're able to use and associate their image, their services to our infrastructure. We have created a use of our brands to do that, which is with Oi Fibra. In addition to that, they're able to actually have better services, for instance, by using cash, by using a number of other resources that they wouldn't have access to if they were alone. They still retain their brands, and they still retain most of the operation locally. In those types of partnerships, and those are just initial estimates, initial guidelines, Marcelo, we believe that we will be able to get something around 15%-20% of the results of those partnerships. It's significant because it's an area where otherwise you would get a lot less.

The second model of franchise is one which we are still to kick off. As I mentioned to you, we have now created dedicated units to wholesale and franchises. We expect the second model to be a model where the Oi brand will be much more important, and the Oi support to the local players will be much more important with a lot more components in place, provided by Oi, including customer care, including the standardization of portfolio. It will be more akin to a traditional franchise. In those models, we expect to have a higher percentage of revenue, but obviously a higher percentage of cost, but it will be an Oi-branded franchise model. Those are the two models we have kicked off. The first partnership with MOB, we expect to kick off several different other partnerships in the time to come.

Marcelo Santos
Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Great. Thanks a lot. Very comprehensive answers.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Marcelo.

Operator

Our next question is from Guido [Ransatz], from Goldman Sachs. Guido, you may proceed.

Speaker 9

Hi, team. Thanks for the presentation. A couple questions here. First, regarding the RJ Plan meeting date. I know that there's 180 days plus 90 days or 60 days of legal period. When do you actually expect this to take place? I understand that's the maximum timeline that is provided by law, any kind of idea on timing and what's base case would be appreciated. Also on the COVID impact of CapEx deployment, particularly with respect to fiber, do you think that that's another area of the business that could be potentially affected? Also on the asset demobilization that you guys have mentioned, tower sales for the second quarter, is there a number of towers that you could provide that is potentially being discussed, or what the size of the portfolio would be that you'd potentially look to sell? Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Guido. Well, let me ask Camille to address the first question about the RJ Plan and the timelines that we're seeing at this point, and then I'll come back and talk about the COVID impact on the CapEx deployment, and we can talk about the non-core assets as well.

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

Thank you, Guido. Thanks for your question, Guido. Regarding the creditors meeting, you're right. The 180 days plus 60 days is the maximum time that the judge has allowed us to have before we call the creditors meeting. The company is working to call the creditors meeting as soon as possible. We don't intend to use the entire amount that was given us by the judge. Of course, we want to be very careful to be fully prepared for the creditors meeting. We should see the company seeking to anticipate the creditors meeting, not to use the entire 240 days, 180 to file for the documents and 60 days to hold the creditors meeting. We are working as hard as we can to anticipate that, but we will do that very carefully in order to be able that we are fully prepared.

Let me address the third point.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Okay.

Camille Faria
CFO, Oi

I'll give it back to Rodrigo so he can talk about CapEx. We are not giving out guidance on the number of towers and cash proceeds expected from single transactions. The guidance that we are giving out and we are maintaining is that including tower sales, data centers, and the pieces of real estate that we intend to sell until end of July, including the two pieces of real estate that we already sold, the one in the south that was announced in December and the one in Botafogo that we announced and already received, which amount for roughly BRL 200 million. Including the two pieces of real estate, towers, and data centers, we expect to raise between BRL 1 billion and BRL 1.5 billion, closer to BRL 1.5 billion.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Camille. Well, Guido, to your question on the COVID impact on CapEx deployment, this is in reality something that we addressed head-on at the very beginning of the crisis. So far, we have been able to maintain almost normality in it. Obviously, there are some restrictions to movements of technicians between cities, and there is a little bit more difficult, for instance, to find hotels and restaurants, and all of that has an impact. So far, because telecoms was declared an essential service, this was instrumental in actually removing some of the restrictions that we have in terms of mobility. Even though in certain areas, for instance, even though general movement is prohibited, we do have our technicians being able to go back and to work and to continue with their services because fiber installation, fiber maintenance, et cetera, is actually a priority.

Because of that, so far, we have no major impacts. What we have done is we did analyze what would happen if the crisis gets worse and if we get some limitations to our CapEx deployment, in particular with fiber. The team actually did a tremendous job here because the operations team created a simulator where we have a pretty detailed simulator analyzing what is the impact of absenteeism in the workplace, in the workforce, in the field workforce. We have several different scenarios in terms of what happens if we go from the status we're currently on in terms of the percentage of technicians that are actually being able to work, to a much higher percentage. Right now, we're at the very, very low single digits. Okay. It's minimal with no impact.

What would happen if we went all the way to 20% restrictions? What would happen if we went all the way up to 30% restrictions? What would happen if we go all the way up to 50% of our field force not being able to work? Then we simulated what would this represent in terms of impact, both in terms of homes passed and homes connected. When we look at even the most critical scenario, obviously, the most critical scenario that would take place for a duration of close to two-three months. This is the simulation. Even the most critical scenario, we would have, yes, an impact. I wouldn't give you the precise number, but we would have a small impact in terms of the total number of homes passed at the end of the year.

We would pretty much preserve the ability to perform the homes connected. Right now, honestly, directionally speaking, even with more restrictions to come, because we are an essential service, we don't see the CapEx deployment being significantly impacted in terms of operating capacity by the COVID crisis.

Speaker 9

Understood. Thanks, team.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you.

Operator

We have another question from Alvin Chiu for our Capital Company. Alvin, you may proceed.

Alvin Chiu
VP and Analyst, Bank of America Corporation

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. I think my first question has already been answered previously, so I'll just proceed on to the second question, which is, I would like to ask management to comment on the sales process for its mobile units. Can you please provide us with an update on the status and as well as the likely timing, if possible? Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Alvin. As we had announced to the market at the last quarter at the end of the year, we initiated what we call the market sounding process, which was not a formal sale process. As you know, as we have communicated before, we have retained a financial advisor with Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, to help us organize not only what would be the assets that we have in terms of interest in the market, but what would be the initial demonstrations of interest in terms of indications of value and indications of interest in competition for the assets. This is what Bank of America has been doing. They organized this market sounding by talking to the several different advisors of different interested parties. During this last couple of months, there was exchange of public information.

Again, to avoid not complying with any regulatory restriction, given that obviously we're talking about the potential interest of competitors. We have organized information exchange of public information in terms of what would be the basic information required to provide an estimate of input, non-binding inputs to our assets. We have received those. As you remember, not only we announced publicly that we have received more than one manifestation of interest, non-binding manifestations of interest proposals from interested parties. Now we're doing our own analysis with our advisor in terms of what would be the next steps.

Assuming that everything proceeds, given that we are able to get close to what we believe is something that could generate significant value for the company, for the shareholders, we would proceed to a second phase, which could be a more formal phase, where in the end, we could get to a point of receiving binding proposals. Obviously, all of that is also connected to the general creditors meeting that Camille talked about, because for us to be able to formally separate our mobile unit if, again, we get to a point where we believe selling it would make sense for shareholders based on the values that we're discussing. This would have to be done in the form of what we call in Brazil a UPI, an independent production unit, which is a legal entity, part of any RJ process.

The key characteristics of this UPI or IPU in English, is that it would not carry any attachment, any obligations of the RJ proceedings that we are currently attached to. In particular, in terms of the future obligations towards the plan. This is part of our inputs to a general creditors meeting that will take place to give the company flexibility to consider the possibility of doing that in a way that maximizes value. In summary, we will continue with the current process. It may eventually, again, convert into a process of receiving binding offers. These binding offers and the proposal to separate the mobile unit in the form of a UPI would have to be subject to the general creditors' meeting approval. Based on that, a potential transaction could take place.

Alvin Chiu
VP and Analyst, Bank of America Corporation

All right. Thank you very much. It's very clear. Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Carlos Sequeira from BTG Pactual. Carlos, you may proceed with your question.

Carlos Sequeira
Head of BTG Pactual Research, BTG Pactual

Thank you. Good morning, Rodrigo and Camille. Thank you for the call. My question is on, we just saw this week, Provisional Measure 899 being voted and approved by the Senate. My understanding is that this measure creates conditions for individuals and corporations to negotiate and restructure their debts with the federal government. In Oi's specific case, there is all this debate and discussion involving its debt that's against Anatel. My question is, how do you see this provisional measure helping negotiations or improving chances that you reach an agreement with Anatel on all this, probably related to the fines that are there, please? Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Hi, Carlos. Thank you for the question. Indeed, we did not mention during the call, but indeed, the MP 899 was finally approved. It had been approved at the lower house last week, it was approved in the Senate last night. Obviously, it is a positive approval, we believe, because it gives us yet another option to address our issues with the past Anatel debt. In reality, it's an additional option, as I mentioned, because what happened was that in the original discussion with Anatel, as you remember, as everybody remembers, there was a big discussion from the part of Anatel about if their credits should be in the RJ or not. According to our thesis, there was no question that it should be part of the RJ. It was decided, so it was judged. Anatel appealed. It was upheld.

We won in the second instance. For all practical purposes, we know that the Anatel credits are part of the RJ and could continue to be part of the RJ. Nonetheless, we believe that it's interesting to have options to discuss alternative courses of action in terms of how to treat the Anatel debt. This is part of a scenario of modernizing not only the discussion of public debt, but the judicial recovery law. There are several initiatives to address that. The first one was MP 899, which allows for the bilateral negotiation of the credits, and the Anatel credits would fall in this category.

We could renegotiate the credits with the AGU and actually pretty much get to a point where we would have an equivalent fair value reduction to what can be obtained in an RJ proceeding, which, by the way, is what we currently have. There is yet a second avenue, which is already being discussed in addition to the MP 899. Remembering that the MP 899, the key characteristic is that it allows for a 50% reduction in the total debt, and 84 months of payment going forward. There's a second alternative to that, which is in the form of a law project, which is PL 6229. PL 6229 actually brings yet another alternative, which would be a third alternative as to how to treat the Anatel credits.

This would allow for RJ companies a renegotiation that can go up to 70% of haircut in the total debt and 120 months for the negotiation of those credits. We believe that the more alternatives we have, the better, because in the end, we can decide if it works for us, if the fair values are approximate, and we believe they can be. We can decide to actually go into an area, in an alternative that would give us more certainty going forward, more legal certainty going forward. In the end, it's great to have alternatives. We believe that the current alternative that we have, which is both MP 899 and continuing to treat the Anatel credits as part of the RJ, are already well reflected in our current numbers. There will be no concern going forward. Actually, it's just potential improvements.

Carlos Sequeira
Head of BTG Pactual Research, BTG Pactual

Thank you very much, Rodrigo. Thank you.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Thank you, Carlos.

Operator

With that concludes our Q&A session. I would like to turn the floor over to the company for the final remarks.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Well, again, thank you, everybody. We know that this is not just any ordinary time, as we highlighted at the beginning of the call. We know that this will require from all of us a lot of focus, a lot of effort, a lot of attention in terms of not only continuing to execute what we said we would execute, but at the same time, planning for contingencies and addressing the most relevant challenges that this whole crisis has brought upon us. We believe that obviously, we continue to execute well on our plan. We believe that all in all, we will maintain our focus in all the relevant areas that we have communicated. I reinforce our confidence that we have in order to be able to be well-succeeded with the execution of the whole plan as originally stated.

Well, thank you for being with us. I will talk to you in our next quarterly call.

Operator

This concludes Oi S.A.'s conference call.

Rodrigo Abreu
CEO, Oi

Okay.

Operator

We would like to thank you for your participation and have a nice day.