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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

May 5, 2021

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. At this time, we would like to welcome everyone to Porto Seguro's first quarter 2021 results conference call. Today with us, we have Roberto Santos, the company's CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Celso Damadi, Executive Vice President of Finance, Controllership, Investments. Marcelo Picanço, Executive Vice President of Insurance. Marcos Loução, Executive Vice President of Financial Businesses and Services. Izak Benaderet, Managing Director of Porto Investments, and Emerson Faria, Head of Investor Relations. Please recall that this event is being recorded and simultaneously translated, and all participants will be in listen-only mode during the company presentation. Ensuing this, there will be a question and answer session when further instructions will be given. Should any participant require assistance during this call, please press star zero to reach the operator. We have a simultaneous webcast at the address www.portoseguro.com.br/ir.

Here you will see the conference call banner that will lead you to the platform. Questions can also be posed through the webcast platform, clicking on ask the speaker icon. These questions can be sent at any time, and they will be responded during the conference call. Bear in mind that forward-looking statements made during this conference call, referring to the Porto Seguro business outlook, financial and operational goals, are based on the beliefs and assumptions of the company and on information currently available to the company. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions as they relate to future events, and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions, and other operating factors could also affect the future results of Porto Seguro and lead to results that differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements.

We would now like to turn the floor over to the company. You may proceed.

Roberto Santos
CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Porto Seguro

A good day to all of you. We would like to thank all of you in the conference call of Porto Seguro for the first quarter 2021. On slide number , we highlight the following. Our net income grew 49% in the first quarter, and the ROI annualized reached 14%, leveraged by the results of insurance verticals and the good performance of our financial investments. We had a revenue growth in all verticals in this quarter. The insurance vertical had a growth of 6%, with 6.7% for auto premium, 15.4% in individual life insurance, maintaining the growth that we observed in the fourth quarter 2020. Recurring revenues of financial business grew 16.2%, mainly leveraged by the consortium with 29.7% and the financing portfolio with 39.1%.

The health vertical had an increase in premiums and revenues with a growth of 34% in the number of companies insured at 7.6% in the number of lives insured in the dental plans. The service vertical had an evolution of 21.9% recurring revenues with a highlight for the increase of 43.9% in the profit of Porto.Pet and an increase in revenues for Carro Fácil. The health of the vertical strengthens our vision that we're on the right path to accelerate growth and business diversification, maintaining our assets updated and an attractive profitability. The recurrent combined ratio reached 92.3% for the quarter, favored by the auto business that reduced the claims in 6.2% thanks to an enhancement in risk pricing and underwriting and the impact of social isolation due to the pandemic. We have fifth consecutive quarter of reduction in claims.

Additionally, we had a drop of 0.3% in the recurrent consolidated ratio of SGA and other expenses also contributing to a better ratio. Thanks to the efforts we have done to increase our operational efficiency through investments in technology and process enhancements. The NPL for credit operations continues to improve with a drop vis-à-vis the fourth quarter 2020 and when compared to the full-year 2020. The 90-day default ended at 4% at the end of the quarter, 0.2 percentage points below the market average. This shows the efficient management of the credit portfolio and the measures adopted to mitigate risk throughout 2020. We reached BRL 194 million in our financial safe thanks to the investment in index securities, inflation, and multi-market positions, obtaining a return of 2.4% for the quarter, equivalent to 488% of the CDI for the period.

We ended the first quarter 2021 with BRL 2.8 billion in terms of cash availability, and this has remained comfortable during the pandemic. In terms of ESG, we highlight some initiatives that are part of Porto Seguro, the Associação Crescer Sempre, the Young Apprentice program, and the Porto Voluntário program. New initiatives, Porto Seguro is part of the ICO2 index of B3 and has begun auditing for greenhouse gases. We have Meu Programa Seguro that positively impacted the lives of 20,000 people. We also have the program of warm food that is distributed in this difficult moment. We were certified by Women on Board as we have two women in our board of management.

In terms of innovation, we launched important innovations with a highlight to Blue, the first subscription automobile investment that is contracted easily and with essential coverage and with the potential of leveraging the growth of the portfolio in the company. Another news was the growth of Tech Fácil in a subscription program for smartphones. We also changed Porto.Pet for Petlove. We made an agreement with the largest online store in the country. We will transfer the pet operations to Petlove, and we will have 3.5% share in their capital. This operation is pending the approval of CADE. Experimentally, we're working with our super app, an application that enhances the user's journey, and our services are being used by more than 75% of our clients. We continue to move forward in terms of service offered with WhatsApp. 40% of our service goes through this channel.

Besides enhancing the customer's journeys, it enables us to have efficiency gains. To conclude, we're very satisfied with the results obtained, and this will enable us to reach our strategic growth of leveraging our customer base and enhancing the customer experience. We're determined in our purpose of being ever more a safe harbor for our customers. I would now like to ask Emerson Faria to comment in greater detail on the evolution of revenues and profitability in the first quarter 2021.

Emerson Faria
Head of Investor Relations, Porto Seguro

Thank you, Roberto. We continue on in slide number five. Before continuing, a disclaimer. Beginning this quarter, we began to publish our results based on business verticals, and the revenues as of this quarter will also be quoted by verticals. In slide number five, you see the evolution of the quarterly revenues of the first quarter 2021, vis-à-vis the first quarter 2020 in each of our business lines.

In insurance, a growth of 6.6%, and all the verticals had revenue growth. Here in insurance, we have auto insurance, P&C, rural, and civil responsibility insurance. In financial businesses, the growth was 7.8%. This is the figure for the company as a whole. We had an impact on the IFRS 9 model with an impact on revenues and in our NPL and coverage ratios. But further ahead, Marcos Loução will speak about financial businesses and present these results excluding this effect. The growth here was 7.8%. Nevertheless, some financial businesses are made up of credit card financing, financial risk that has moved away from insurance and entered the financial business area and risk relating to that, capitalization that also left insurance and is now part of financial businesses, consortium and asset management. Health has been separated from insurance.

It is made up of corporate health, dental health, and medical services, occupational health as well. We had a 5.1% growth in revenues, and finally, in services. We have several new businesses that are part of services. It is made up of service, Carro Fácil , Porto.Pet, Repara, Renova Ecopeças, and the auto monitoring. These are the businesses that are part of services with a growth of 11%. We go on to slide number six, where we see the evolution of our profitability. To the left, our annual profitability, to the right, the quarterly profitability. We had BRL 297 million in the first quarter 2021, as mentioned by Roberto, with an ROI of 14.7% and a growth vis-à-vis the quarter last year. These are the financial results, the operational results. Since the second quarter of 2020, you can observe that the operational results have become more relevant.

This is what the company wants. It wants to present operational results. It cannot only depend on financial results, but the financial results that are profit as a whole. In slide number seven, we speak about each vertical business. This is the novelty for the quarter. Besides speaking of revenues, we speak about profitability for each business vertical. In the first quarter 2021, you will see that the insurance vertical represents 60% of profit in the first quarter. Besides the four verticals, we have the holding, and part of the profitability, of course, is made up of the operation as a whole for the holding. We go on to slide number eight to speak about consolidated results. We show you profitability vis-à-vis the CDI. In 2020 and in the first quarter 2021, the growth was significant. The result was very good.

Our ROAE was 14.7%, vis-à-vis 12% in the first quarter 2020, with a percentage of CDI that is 767% in the first quarter of 2021. This figure is somewhat higher than the historical average due to the low CDI. With the expectation of a return of the Selic, the CDI will increase, and we will go back to more realistic levels of 150%-300% of CDI. I will now give the floor to Marcelo Picanço, who will speak about the insurance vertical on page nine. Thank you, Marcelo, and thank you for your presence in our call.

Marcelo Picanço
EVP of Insurance, Porto Seguro

A good day to you. I would like to begin on slide number nine, and the figures I think you are familiar with, I am not going to present them in detail. I would like to say that strategically for the second quarter, we have had expressive growth in insurance.

Even with a reduction in risk, which of course naturally reduced our pricing, we were able to grow, and this is an important call for us, the number of customers that is at 120,000 with a pace accelerating in the last two quarters. We believe that this year will be very important in a sequence of over 10 years of growth in the fleet that has been insured, the auto fleet. This resumption of growth in a more strategic and persistent way, of course, is very important. I would like to perhaps refer to the concept that we have of the insurance market and say that it is not mature. It is far from being mature and having good penetration as in other countries. Even though the auto segment is deemed to be mature, has only 30% of penetration in the fleet.

The way of approaching this potential has to do with innovative offers that are expanded, that will bring more security, comfort, and convenience in a country that needs this sorely. Blue is an example of this. It is in a pilot program in two important regions, and the market was addressed by non-insurance solutions, and it is a response, of course, as we understand the market is there, it should be addressed. It should not be ignored or deemed to be marginable. We do not only want to gain market share, and I can say that this conclusion is even stronger in other insurance markets such as life and P&C. We have had consistent growth, but the potential is enormous. 80% or 90% of these markets have as yet not been approached, and we need more innovation. We need to simplify several things.

Our essence of being a safe harbor takes us back to bringing to people excellent services mixed with products that will truly offer a genuine offer of convenience and comfort. We are not only thinking of offsetting income or ensuring a good. People are looking beyond this. They are looking at what is around them, services and services in general. It is important to mention what we think of insurance when it comes to the combined ratio and results. This is one more quarter where we are able to show that, yes, it is possible to have a pricing model, an intelligent model that takes into account financial variables. That theory that with low interest rates you cannot have profitability is not confirmed. The sector has been growing despite the drop in the interest rates.

Of course, this refers to the enhancement in our operational results because of the work in a differentiated underwriting and pricing. We will be doing this in other lines as well. With the database that we have with our portfolios of more than 5 million people, this of course, will help us to generate excellence even in moments of pandemic. We will be able to segment portfolios that can benefit from this size people. This is a level of granularity that is made feasible through a sophisticated model and a truly large database. The first quarter was somewhat more difficult for insurance because of the natural seasonality. But once again, we improved the results vis-à-vis the first quarter of 2020 with a substantial increase of BRL 195 million to BRL 219 million revenue for the first quarter 2021, and an increase of 15% in capital.

1.5 x the capital of the company. In terms of administrative and operational expenses, we had a nominal decrease. I like to look at the index and the nominal decrease and improvement of 0.3 percentage points. We had some expenses with COVID, the contributions we made in this very difficult period of society. This is not part of the operation, of course, donations and contributions, although they are accounted for, and we eliminate apart from the Meu Porto Seguro, where we offered more than 10,000 posts of work associated to the company. We continue on with this discipline and we look upon this not as margin expansion. This is something strategic that will enable us to have more accessible products for consumers who are not willing to pay beyond a certain level. We continue to do this to have the security inclusion which is strategic for us.

Finally, in the health vertical, despite all of the impact on companies such as unemployment, our portfolio is made 87% of corporate health. Unfortunately, because of the crisis, many companies have reduced their invoicing, but despite this, we were able to grow 5% in premiums and add 70,000 additional lives, including dental health in the scenario. Of course, this is not the growth that we would like to aim for. The healthcare model is undergoing a transformation. We are creating something so we will have a more digital, sophisticated company with an intelligence that sets us aside in terms of patients, physicians, the way of bringing together these issues. We have a partnership with joint ventures for technology and digitization. As the pillars are standing and have become concrete in healthcare, this growth will be ever more vigorous.

Now, some trends that are mentioned, the invoicing of insurance market in other countries where insurance is mandatory. This does not happen in Brazil in terms of vehicles, for example. So we have a great deal of room to expand penetration in income brackets that do not have this protection. Although we already have a strong penetration in the upper social brackets, where we have good inclusion in all the insurance lines, including healthcare. Only 20% of the population has access to complementary health, and this level has not grown. We have a relatively low market share and a great deal of space to grow in that market, and the market will also grow. I would now like to conclude this part about insurance, and I will now give the floor to speak about financial businesses.

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

Thank you, Marcelo, and a good day to all of you.

I will speak about the financial business vertical and our revenue growth was two digits, 16.2%. A breakdown of revenues where we have credit cards, B2C, the consortium with growth, as well as financial risk and capitalization, and a growth in net earnings of more than 9% in the last quarter. A highlight in our credit card and financing is the growth and the acceleration in the financing of vehicles. In the last year, we had a growth of 48%, whilst the market only grew 8% based on December. This growth is leveraged by a sale and aid from the brokerage channel, which enables us to continue within the expansion schedule for the year. We have 58% of our sales carried out through the brokerage channel.

Another important highlight is that even in credit cards, we have been able to grow our portfolio, a significant growth during this crisis of limitation to consumption. We worked on wallets and buy per pay, and we grew above the market, showing that our customers continue to use their credit cards even in this access restriction scenario. The number of transactions went from 59% to 64%, which has also increased our efficiency when it comes to financial risk. We have our allocation done by brokerage. In a partnership with real estate, we achieved 13%, and we had 10% in the real estate companies carrying out transactions vis-à-vis the same quarter last year, showing the continuity of our expansion in this real estate ecosystem.

We created a product that is 100% digital, with a connection to the customer's tax number with a lighter price, and that represents 40% of our sales.

Once again, this shows our foothold and our competitiveness in this sector. The growth of revenues. We have a change in the way that SUSEP demands that you bring together the revenues, which now extend during the entire time of lease. To speak about the consortium, we have an important regional plan. We had a growth of 29%, and here we changed the profile of our internal consultants. We work remotely, enabling us to have higher contracting and sales to more brokers. We increased the number of brokers by 69% compared to the previous year. In our own sales channel, we were also able to have an expansion with remote management to regions where we were not present physically, which shows that we're following the right strategy for growth, of course. When it comes to asset management, this drop in revenues is due to internal rates.

Now to speak a bit more about our credit operations portfolio. We observe continuous growth, and our default level is very aligned with the market, which is interesting given that we're growing above the market. And, of course, we continue to have controlled defaults using the correct policies for this. In terms of the services vertical, I would like to highlight our continuous growth in revenues of 22% and a better distribution of revenues. An important highlight for Porto Seguro Faz and the Pet sector, we have a break even in all operations. We have several innovation initiatives here. Now to speak about Carro Fácil. We had an increase in sales vis-à-vis the same quarter 2020, an increase of 57%, and an increase of 30% in the average ticket as part of a significant expansion in cars through subscription. In Porto.Pet, we have significant plans.

An average ticket that went from BRL 100 to BRL 183 and a growth in our portfolio from 36,000 to 41,000 the last quarter. Porto Faz and Porto Repara, these are the services that we offer as part of our structure. Repara is the third assistance plan for emergency services. We have reached 372,000 customers, and many of them are due to a strategic partnership that we have. And we had Samsung included in a specific operation for store maintenance and Itaú Unibanco, among others. In others, we have Renova Ecopeças, where we have increased our capacity to dismantle cars, practically doubling our capacity. And with this, we are able to use legal spare parts so that they can be used in other assemblies. Now, these are the main highlights of the services vertical, where we have had an acceleration in the first quarter. Thank you.

I will now give the floor to Izak Benaderet.

Izak Benaderet
Managing Director of Porto Investments, Porto Seguro

A good day to all of you. Thank you for the opportunity to address you. These are the results for the first quarter. Results of BRL 230 million, with a nominal return of BRL 236 million. This result is thanks to our public security portfolio. We had a first semester with an IPCA with an increase of about 2%. We also had an increase in the ITM. All of this contributed positively to our security portfolio. Although there was a drop in the Bovespa index, our shares had an excellent result. We also had contributions coming from investments and funds in the multi-market. Finally, in terms of our investment portfolio, we had some moves this quarter, increasing our stake in index securities and inflation. We went from 53% to 65% of our portfolio. Very generally, this is what we did.

I return the floor to Roberto, who will speak about our ESG initiatives.

Roberto Santos
CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Porto Seguro

On slide 18, we refer to some of our initiatives that are part of the history of Porto Seguro. We have the Associação Crescer Sempre that has received help for more than 20 years. We have child education, high school, vocational courses for the community of Paraisópolis. We also have the Young Apprentice program, offering education for life and trying to insert low-income young people in the labor market. Finally, the Porto Voluntário program to foster the volunteering of employees, companies, and working with social institutions and their beneficiaries. We have additional and recent initiatives. We hired 10,000 people for the program Meu Porto Seguro. We offered them an income of BRL 1,500 per month for three months.

We, of course, had additional people who were not hired but decided to follow the program, and we are offering them training available on the Porto Seguro platform. In the social field, we created the Quentinhas program. We are offering help to the Campo Belo neighborhood, highly impacted by the pandemic. We buy packaged food from 11 restaurants, and we offer meals to the surrounding community. We have donated more than 20,000 meals, with the deliveries being carried out by Porto Seguro service providers. The company has already donated 6,000 food baskets that were given to 1,300 companies. We have two women on our board of management. Women on Board is an initiative supported by the UN, incentivizing the participation of female members in the board of directors.

Finally, we are now part of the ICO2 from the B3, and we have a government and social aspect that goes back to contributions. We have now begun our greenhouse gas inventory, carried out by a third party, giving us more reliability and transparency in our processes. These are the main environmental, social, and governance factors that we wanted to highlight. With this, we conclude the presentation, and we would now like to go on to the question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go on to the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star one, or questions can also be sent through the webcast platform in the speaker platform. Our first question comes from Mariana from UBS. You may proceed, ma'am.

Speaker 7

Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. In many of your verticals, you have reached a breakeven point, and some of them you have a growth of 50%. Which is the vertical business that has had the greatest growth, and which is the one where you detect greatest opportunity?

Operator

Thank you. Mariana, we had instability in your question, if you would please repeat it.

Speaker 7

I do apologize. Is my sound better now?

Operator

Yes.

Speaker 7

When it comes to your vertical businesses, insurance represents 50% of your total results, and most of your other verticals have reached a breakeven position. Which will be the contribution of each of these verticals in your results, which will have a greater growth, and in which of them do you detect greater opportunities?

Roberto Santos
CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Porto Seguro

Mariana, this is Roberto, and thank you for your question. Of course, the insurance vertical represents most of the revenue and profitability of the company.

In the coming five years, we foresee a significant increase in healthcare and service verticals, as well as in the financial business, in that order. This doesn't mean that the insurance vertical will not expand. We imagine that it will have a greater share in revenues and profits in the healthcare vertical services and financial businesses more than in insurance. If you could give us an idea of the percentages of this mix. Our reading is that in the next 10 years, the insurance vertical will represent less than 50% of the total revenues and profitability in Porto Seguro. Simply to add to this, so we're not stuck on this vision of a quarter where we have a compression in terms of insurance results. If we go back to 2017, speaking about the insurance contribution, 68%, 67%, 65% in 2019, and 67% in 2020.

The annual contribution is of approximately 70% since 2017. Between 65%- 70% is what we see every year.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Operator

We would like to remind you that should you wish to pose a question, please press star one. We have a question coming from the webcast. We have some questions actually from the webcast. I will read out the questions. The first question from Gabriel from Citi. He asks us to speak about the competitive environment for the auto insurance and the increase in prices of used cars. Will this lead to a higher insurance price?

Marcelo Picanço
EVP of Insurance, Porto Seguro

Thank you, Gabriel, for your question. Well, the competitive environment is still quite balanced. There is no asymmetry. The truth is that prices reflect the following: A lower frequency that can be blamed on the pandemic, but not entirely.

Before the pandemic, we had already reported a drop in frequency in robbery and theft and for the entire market. There is a price reduction here that is not due to commercial aspects or the aggressiveness of players, but instead due to the reduction in risk. When there is less risk, the price of insurance is lower. When it comes to the increase in price of used cars, yes, this should eventually balance out, but there are effects that decrease the price, such as frequency and others, and other factors that will increase the price. All of this is balanced, and when we say balanced, the companies, in general, are healthier than they were formerly, perhaps. And naturally, the market in autos is quite competitive. It has been transferring the price increase, and this has not impacted the profitability of Porto or other relevant players in this business.

Operator

We have another question from Gabriel from Citi. It is also for you, Marcelo Picanço. If you could speak about the loss ratio of healthcare.

Marcelo Picanço
EVP of Insurance, Porto Seguro

We saw something sequential. We have had higher costs due to COVID and elective procedures. I do want to be very fair. We had a bonus, a reduction of procedures in 2020. In 2021, we see a resumption in elective procedures. You cannot simply not treat other diseases like cancer or other serious situations that demand resources that are costly. Secondly, we had the treatments due to COVID-19 with a unit cost that is much higher than any other treatment. This is a disease that requires a great deal of resources, and the per capita per patient is more costly.

In the first quarter, we had a loss ratio that is somewhat above what we were having and what we expected because of the reduction of elective procedures. We had a lockdown, greater isolation in the second quarter, but we do have this higher cost per COVID patient. We had a strong outbreak in the first quarter and in the second quarter, and of course, this will increase the loss ratio.

Operator

To continue on here, another question from the webcast asked by Thiago from BTG Pactual. Two questions. The first, how can we think about the service verticals that have several businesses that are at an initial stage? Should we expect new partnerships in the coming months, such as Petlove?

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

Thank you, Thiago, for the question. This is Loução .

I think that we can think of the service vertical as a creation of several products that makes it possible to expand Porto Seguro and the services offered to people. We have the consolidation of cars through subscription. We have Repara, Renova, and an interesting MVP in terms of Tech Fácil, where we begin with smartphones at present. When it comes to new associations or partnerships, we are always open to discuss them if they are aligned with our values and if they are aligned with our guidelines for the next five years. Yes. This is what we can expect, a vertical with significant growth potential as we have seen in the last quarters.

Operator

The second question made by Thiago, if you could speak about the credit cards more. What can we expect for the future, which are your plans and which would be Porto's competitive edge in this segment?

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

In the last few years, we got prepared for a fully digital process and security in the use of the Porto Seguro credit card. 33% or 35% of our actual customer base does not have insurance, and this is the credit card that is preferred by the clients. In this segment, we continue to grow the portfolio, our revenues. We are the eighth largest credit card issuer with significant growth in terms of our portfolio vis-a-vis competitors. The strategy is that this will be a card that will be used considerably and not simply one more card. Our models are ready for expansion into the open sea. We have a digital channel that represented 15,000 sales in the first quarter. It is competitive with any other fintech. Yes, we are getting ready through technology.

Our credit is based on a software called PowerCurve that analyzes all of our clients based on the same model and same policy, enabling us great agility in all of our products. Considering our strategy to grow through services, we also believe that all of these subscription services and the more accessible services that we have in the market will be a door of entry for our financial products as well.

Operator

The next question comes from Guilherme from JP Morgan. You may proceed, sir.

Speaker 8

A good day, and thank you for taking my question. My question refers to the structural side, and I move away from the first quarter. There has been an exponential growth in the use of digital products. Some companies are beginning to offer auto insurance, and for insurance, well, it means that you have to know your client. But insurance already has a value perception on the part of the consumer. Now we see that very few fintechs are adopting the model. They're working more with an insurance company. Now we see the evolution of digital products. What do you deem to be the potential of the insurance sector and how will the digital programs impact your evolution?

Marcelo Picanço
EVP of Insurance, Porto Seguro

Thank you for the question. This is Marcelo here. We see this as an opportunity. We have spoken with several digital players, not only banks, and we see strong possibilities for partnership. I think that the supply to different needs is important to increase channel partnerships and formats. It is important to foster the inclusion of more consumers in the market. The market is still very restricted. Only 30% of the fleet has insurance. What we observe is that most of them don't want to be underwriters.

They think they are technological companies, and the condition of having the risk of insurance regulation is not attractive for technological companies, not for the American big tech or the Brazilian big tech. They need partners because they need to make adaptations in their model. The way of contracting the insurance has to be simpler, and we have to improve the customer journey, and we have made partnerships in this arena. Another important point that I would like to highlight in auto insurance is that people speak about the contracting the initial contract. Once the person is in, there is an operational and physical chain. We have offices and other instances. Auto insurance is something that is very logistic. We have to have a back office, a service network that takes some time to set up.

These companies are not willing to set up thousands of offices throughout the country or winches. Once again, auto insurance is highly operational. It's different from other insurance where you do underwriting like life insurance. I think we have a position that is very open, and we're very willing to make the necessary adaptations to have these partnerships.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Operator

We have several questions that have come through the webcast. A question that comes from Gustavo from Interbank. Which is the strategy to have more clients in the Porto.Pet platform?

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

Gustavo, thank you for the question. Our initial strategy is to continue the expansion in the network with Porto.Pet, and we're going to approve and develop the channel of brokers so that we can have a more digital, more simple sale, always anchored to the brokerage channel. We're now undergoing a regional expansion and more digital sales through our broker channel, especially as soon as all of this is approved by CADE with the help of Petlove in the distribution.

Operator

We have another question from Renato. What is your view of the relationship between digital sales channels and brokers? Are we with a view towards selling your product to new customers?

Roberto Santos
CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Porto Seguro

Thank you for the question. This is Roberto. The insurance broker is our main distribution channel, and they will continue to be for some time. We protect the insurance brokerage system. We try to avoid direct sales. When it comes to selling through internet, we have broken the paradigm through the sale of the Blue product that is sold through internet, and the broker can also help in this.

Now, any product that is built by Porto Seguro can be distributed through a broker, but not necessarily only through the broker. We have solutions such as Blue, and the client can acquire this directly without hampering the work of brokers. The after-sales will go to an insurance broker with a somewhat lower remuneration. We want to continue working with insurance brokers, but of course, we too want the younger generation to be able to acquire their products through internet. This is a good equation that we have reached without hampering the brokerage channel, which has been moving ahead. We will have a Porto store where people will be able to acquire our products directly through internet without the intervention of an insurance broker.

Operator

We have another question from Thiago. If you could refer to the growth potential that you see in the financial businesses, you have 2.6 million credit cards, almost 9 million clients as a whole, better than several digital banks. What will be the evolution of the growth of your customer base products and profitability?

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

Thank you for the question, Thiago. We will continue to grow our base, now focused on attracting new customers with more competitive products so that we can work with cross-selling and develop the financial life of customers in Porto Seguro as an alternative to the fintechs that we see in the market. Our strategy is to speed up the growth of our customer base, but focused on products that will generate profitability and financial results. Very much aligned with what we had, but we're doing this through a more synergetical outlook now.

We do want to have a greater market expansion at more competitive prices. Another question about the IPO, if this can be used for service vertical. Since 2014, 2015, our service vertical has enabled us to sell our products individually, and we do the distribution through Porto, where since 2015, you can buy one of our products. It's more about the digital sale of insurance, and we have to be more efficient in the selling conditions, even with a drop in the after-sales commission if the sale is intermediated by a broker.

Roberto Santos
CEO and Investor Relations Officer, Porto Seguro

Okay, now that is very clear. This is Roberto. With a digital sales channel, you have lower commissions, of course, but the commission is part of the cost of marketing, of selling. In the cost of selling, you have expenses that you don't have in the broker channel. You have to generate leads, and you don't have to do this through the broker channel. To respond in a more pragmatic way, the commission will be lower in this channel, but the cost of marketing as a whole will not, because you do have the cost for the acquisition of leads.

Marcos Loução
EVP of Financial Businesses and Services, Porto Seguro

I would like to complement the response of Roberto with something when we compare the digital sale of insurance, vis-à-vis the consultancy of brokers and other products. If you buy a smartphone through internet or a machine or a fridge for your house, the sale of insurance in markets where insurance is not mandatory, we can't compare ourselves with Great Britain and the U.S., where insurance is mandatory. The rate of closing drops a great deal when there is no support of the broker. We want to do something hybrid, where the broker will close the deal.

This is not only an issue to harmonize the channel. We're being pragmatic. We want to sell. Even in developed countries, this is even stronger in insurance portfolio. In Japan, the direct sales of insurance do not amount to more than 10%. There is that pragmatic need to convince the customer about the product, which is not a desirable product. It's necessary, and people need that consultancy to close. I say this based on our experience with health techs that are five years old and that have begun using brokers to close the deal in the United States. This combination of the two channels is something that we are investing in, and perhaps the cost of the acquisition of the client will not be the same, but we do have to invest in this.

Now to speak more specifically about the commission that we have in some portfolios, we had a better sales performance. We carried out campaigns, and the results are a proof of this. When we grow, we increase our margins. We have more commissions. This, because it's something meritocratic to build.

Operator

Very good. We have a last question that came through internet. We're going to respond to it, and then we will end the conference call.

Marcelo Picanço
EVP of Insurance, Porto Seguro

Which is the behavior of premium in the sector in Porto Seguro and vehicle, where in a year where we have invested a great deal to resume growth after several years of making adjustments, we had lower growth, and we want to have a vigorous growth this year as part of the market reality. We need more time for a structural transformation. We're not going to change anything this year. Complex innovations do take time.

So that they can become more mature. We don't want to do something small and simple and think that this will change the market. We demand something more sophisticated that will take time. But this is a year that will be a differential in the growth of the auto sales, and of course, this will depend on the behavior of competition. The market is quite competitive, as I mentioned. We have invested in very sophisticated underwriting and pricing models that consider the habits of staying home, not staying home, circulation patterns that are very different since we had the pandemic, the behavior of drivers that has changed. Perhaps next month, this behavior will change further, in terms of consumers. Because of this, we have had to make adaptations in our models with a view towards the future, looking towards the future and not looking backwards for auto insurance.

All of this will lead to growth this year, and this is what we are investing for.

Emerson Faria
Head of Investor Relations, Porto Seguro

Very well. I would once again like to thank all of you for your participation, for your questions, the significant contributions, and your interest in Porto Seguro. Should you have any additional doubts, please visit our page for Investor Relations or directly contact our Investor Relations team. Thank you very much.

Operator

The Porto Seguro conference call is concluded. We would like to thank all of you for your participation, and we wish you a good afternoon.