Good morning everyone, and thank you for waiting. Welcome to conference call to discuss the Rumo's expansion in Mato Grosso. Today with us we have Mr. Rafael Bergman, CFO and IRO, and Mr. Gustavo Marder da Rosa, investor relations and treasury director. We would like to inform that during the company's presentation, all participants will only be able to listen to the call. We will then begin the Q&A session when further instructions will be given. In case you need any assistance during the conference, please request the operator's help by pressing star zero. We also would like to inform you that Rumo's Q&A session will be presented in Portuguese by the company's management, and there will be a simultaneous translation to English. This event is also being broadcast live simultaneously via internet.
Before proceeding, we would like to mention that forward statements are based on the beliefs and assumptions of Rumo's management and on information currently available to the company. They involve risks and uncertainties because they relate to future events and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors and analysts should understand that conditions related to macroeconomic conditions, industry, and other factors could also cause results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Rafael Bergman. Please, Mr. Bergman, you may proceed.
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining Rumo's conference call. We are very pleased to share with you that we have just begun the expansion of Rumo in Mato Grosso, aiming to connect our Rondonópolis terminal to Lucas do Rio Verde and to Cuiabá. Today's announcement refers specifically to the approval by our board of directors and the start of construction of the stretch between Rondonópolis and Campo Verde. Let's cover the project as a whole before diving into this first phase. Going straight to page three. This expansion project is transformational for Rumo and for Brazil's infrastructure. The railroad will connect us to the mid-north area of Mato Grosso State, the core of grains production in the region.
The strategic location of the project sets the railway as a unique and irreplicable asset, driving further growth in competitiveness and efficiency, and leveraging our results on economies of scale and additional volumes. Our investment thesis is focused on food security as a global priority with an increasing demand, in particular from Asia. Brazil currently represents 1/3 of the global trading of grains, and we have the opportunity to increase our share in the market through expansion of planted area and productivity improvements. Market estimates suggests the grain production in Mato Grosso may increase by more than 30% until 2030. Moreover, the growth in grain exports, the addressable market of our investment, should be proportionally higher at around 60%.
We reaffirm our role as a key player in providing the most competitive, low carbon, and safest logistics solution to connect the farmers to the main ports of the country. Rumo's extension in Mato Grosso is not a standalone initiative. The project is part of a structural logistic investment plan being undertaken by the government of the state of Mato Grosso. Now let's turn to page four. Since September 2021, when we presented the project to the market, we have witnessed a structural improvement in the competitiveness of the railroad transportation. Freight prices have improved towards a more normalized level since the severe corn crop shortfall. Moreover, it is expected that the concessionaire that operates the BR-163 highway will start charging tolls early next year.
As we prepared for the start of construction, we have advanced on engineering studies and were impacted by a higher than expected construction cost inflation. Thus, it is estimated that the entire project CapEx is between BRL 14 billion and BRL 15 billion in real terms. Having said that, all in all, the project is very value accretive as the improvements in market dynamics have offset the CapEx update. Due to the modular execution and the long cycle investment, the previous CapEx guidance announced to the market is discontinued. Going forward, we will address the project figures in each phase separately. On the next page, slide five, I will present the schedule according to the authorization agreement signed with the State of Mato Grosso.
The authorization agreement signed with the State of Mato Grosso establishes an implementation schedule and flexibility mechanisms that allow the company the possibility to postpone the startup of each terminal in two years based on a simple notification to the regulatory agency. On top of that, and if necessary, we could postpone this period for three more years due to technical reasons with the approval of such regulatory agency. This investment is very value accretive. We have the economic incentive to execute it as soon as possible. However, due to the long cycle of investment, we have the regulatory flexibility as an important lever to adjust the schedule if necessary. Now I turn to page six to present the Rondonópolis to Campo Verde phase.
We have already begun the mobilization to start the construction of the first phase, a railway of 211 kilometers connecting Rondonópolis to Campo Verde. We have already been issued the installation license for the construction of eight kilometers, including a railway viaduct over the BR-163 highway. Yesterday, we have signed with the relevant authorities an agreement that allows us to continue the licensing process. In our view, the agreement represents a balanced solution to settle the requests we have received during the licensing process, and is an important step to complete such process. New installation licenses should be issued in the coming months, so we can keep up with the construction works. We expect to start operating the Campo Verde terminal early 2026.
This first phase has the highest estimated construction cost per kilometer as a result of more land movement required and a higher investment in bridges and viaducts. As we advance in the construction, the cost per kilometer on the following phases tends to be lower. Now let's move to page seven. We will have the flexibility to define the capacity of the terminal in Campo Verde and should define it closer to the start of the operations. That is the reason why we will not set the capacity and investments required in rolling stock at this time. The terminal capacity will depend on the timing for the construction of the next phase, the terminal in Nova Mutum.
In a scenario of a faster entry into operation of Nova Mutum, the capacity of the Campo Verde terminal tends to be lower, and the opposite is also true. In order to assist the market in modeling the project, we share an estimate of investment in rolling stock to support both the migration of volumes from Rondonópolis and the incremental volumes we may capture. The terminal will be developed in a partnership model with the investments to be made by an important customer and operating under an open access regime. We have already signed an agreement for the implementation of a first module of the terminal with at least 10 million tons of capacity. Now moving to page eight. With the extension to Campo Verde, the railway gets closer to the core of grains production, therefore boosting the competitiveness of our logistics solution.
At current freight prices, considering the average of the first half of this year and the beginning of digital collection on the BR-163 highway, we estimate the competitive limit based on alternative solutions at some BRL 300 per ton. Therefore, it will be possible to expand the railway's natural area of influence, driving volume and profitability as our customers will be able to shorten the distance covered by trucks, which tend to attract a higher cost as compared to that of the railway. Moving to page nine, I present this, the estimates for the first phase of construction. As I said at the beginning of the presentation, the estimates previously presented by the company for the project are discontinued. We will share with the market estimates on each phase as we progress with the project.
The constructive CapEx for the first phase without the terminal and rolling stock is estimated between BRL 4 billion and BRL 4.5 billion. The capacity of the Campo Verde terminal will be between 10 million tons and 30 million tons per annum. The unlevered internal rate of return for the first phase in real terms is estimated between 12% and 14% per annum. I emphasize that the estimates for the current year and the long-term projections for 2025 are maintained and do not include the figures presented here. Therefore, the projections for the investment in this first phase are complementary and additional to the existing guidance. Now moving to page 10, the final slide. In recent years, we have been proactive in our liability management and have prepared our balance sheet for this, for this new cycle of expansion.
We begin this journey with a liquidity position compatible with investments made here. In the short term, the cash position will be increased with the proceeds from the sale of the 80% stake in the terminals T16 and T19 in Santos. Moreover, investments in infrastructure such as this one attract specific long-term financing lines, which are usually competitive in terms of term and costs. As we shared with you before, our long-term target for leverage is between 2x and 2.5x net debt over EBITDA, a level that we expect to maintain throughout this investment cycle. The start of the construction of our expansion in Mato Grosso is a very special moment for Rumo, and we appreciate the confidence of our shareholders. With that, I finish my presentation and remain available for the question and answer session. Thank you very much.
Our first question is from Pedro Bruno from XP Investimentos.
Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is about the internal rate of return. First, you suggested more broadly that you would maintain a rate of return despite the considerable increase in CapEx. Showing an improvement that probably comes from gains in competitiveness that you'll see from the whole project and this first stretch. When you talk about the first stretch, you mentioned 12%-14% expected rate of return in actual terms. I'd like to understand how your expectations with regards to the rate of return is associated to gains of competitiveness, because you have a lot of room on the limit of your competitive rate.
I'd like to understand how aggressive or how conservative you are in terms of your 12%-14% range of the rate of return in relation to a potential competitiveness. That's my first question. I'll ask another one in a second. Thank you.
Hi, this is Rafael. Thank you for the question. This estimated rate of return we've shared with you from 12%-14% in actual deal average terms reflects not only a more normalized view of the freight market, as well as the modular nature of our investment. We're announcing this first stretch to Campo Verde and the Campo Verde terminal, as we showed in our presentation, has different sizing options from 10 million-13 million tons.
We have the plans for the first module, which is 10 million tons, and we know that obviously, if we decide to go for a larger terminal, that will probably bring more volume, but also more investment in rolling stock. When we estimated the range of the rate of return, we considered the modular nature of the Campo Verde terminal. Now, in terms of competitiveness as a whole, we have a slide about the limit on the competitive rate for the Lucas do Rio Verde terminal, as well as for this investment we've just started on the stretch to Campo Verde, and we're making this information public to show the theoretical limit. Since last year, we had already shared this limit, considering Lucas do Rio Verde, and last year there was also the problem of a corn crop failure.
We were expecting that rates would be normalized subsequently, which is what's happening. That's what we're adding to the project because we are seeing the contracted rates now achieving those normal levels. When we talk about those 300-ton, BRL 300 per ton limit for Campo Verde, we're not using that whole limit to get to the 12%-14%. We have a balanced assumption within that range, but it doesn't take up the whole range because we have to consider our value proposition, which is to provide a more competitive, safe, efficient and low carbon logistics solution to support our clients. It has to be generating value not only to the company but to the country as a whole.
We want to share that benefit with our clients because our intention is to continue to increase volumes and our share in the Mato Grosso production. That's why this is a theoretical limit, but it's not the assumption we've used to get to that 12%-14% range. That's great. That's very clear. Thank you for the very complete answer. At the end of the presentation, you mentioned a credit line and a couple of points about that. First, that rate of return that you've mentioned doesn't include a potential SUDENE fiscal incentive, right? Which is what you have in the Central Network currently. Have I got that right? And if so, when will you be using that fiscal incentive? And what kind of an upside that means to you?
Could you give me an idea of the size and the level of cost of those funding credit lines that you've mentioned? Thank you. Yeah, sure, Pedro. Well, with regards to SUDENE, we're using SUDENE's fiscal incentives in the north network. There is a limit if it needs to be renewed. The extension project is being done under Rumo S.A., which is not entitled to that benefit. But in time, we will try to make use of that, and we have an expectation to be profitable with that, and obviously that should be generating long-term benefits for the project. But at Rumo S.A., we have not included that assumption in the rate of return that we shared with you.
As to your second question, it's too soon to share costs with you, specifically the average cost of that right now when you look at the percentage of the CDI. Because in most cases, we either do the inflation to CDI swap, and that's below 105% of the CDI, so it's competitive. I wouldn't say we're counting on subsidiary lines. Maybe that's got the wrong interpretation. We do have access to compatible credit lines with infrastructure incentives. The BNDES has been an important Rumo partner, and we've been talking to BNDES about long-term credit lines. Terms and diversifying our funding sources is as important as our long-term needs, and that's compatible with our cash generation profile over time.
We will be making decisions about the mix of our funding sources, and that way we'll be able to keep our average cost competitive and within our economic model. We'll continue to be accretive considering the deleverage 12%-14% range. We feel very comfortable about that, but we have a lot of work to do, and we will be sharing more concrete news with you as we get it. That's great. Thank you very much.
Next question is from Régis Cardoso from Credit Suisse.
Hello, everyone. Good morning, Beto, Rafael, and Margaret. I have a couple of questions about what we could get from this project to Rumo as a whole.
It seems like a large part of the solution in terms of inflation and to increase capital came from your rates, even considering that potential maximum rate for the full Lucas do Rio Verde project, which has gone up from 270 tons to 400 tons. That's a considerable increase when compared to the second half of last year. When you were talking about how the freight market has progressed. That doesn't sound like a specific subject about the Lucas do Rio Verde extension and the North network extension. Would it be fair to say that this increased competitiveness should also be reflected in Rondonópolis, and you maybe capture more benefits from Lucas do Rio Verde because there is a road stretch between Lucas and Rondonópolis. Can that be translated into your short-term results as well? Have I understood it right?
Is that what solved the CapEx inflation in order to keep your rate of return? The other thing I see is about Rumo's CapEx. That review from nine to 11 to 14 to 15, is that all to unit inflation as well as the review of the project's parameters? Those are my two questions. Thank you. Hi, Régis. Good morning. Thanks for your two questions. I'll start by the first. Let me just reiterate something that Pedro also asked in his first question. When we show that chart with the extension all the way through Lucas do Rio Verde and that limit on the rate, that is not the rate we have used in our model. I just want to reiterate that to make it clear, because we intend to continue to increase captured volumes.
That competitiveness benefit will be shared with our clients because they are relying on Rumo to increase their own business competitiveness. Of course, we do have a more constructive view of the freight market, but maybe not just because of a time progression of rates, which is what has been happening, but also a risk-adjusted decision-making process because other players are doing the same thing. They are betting on the competitiveness of railroads to Santos because the demand for Brazilian agribusiness continues to increase. We've talked about that in earlier conference calls. Major investments are being made in terminals. There has been an important decision made by a major player to continue to invest in a Santos terminal. This is a structural assumption that rail as the logistics solution to Santos will continue to be competitive.
The market as a whole is growing for everyone, but this is a structural belief. For us, rather than a contextual belief. Obviously, it's great to see that our structural assumption is being reflected on rates because we've been able to negotiate them and without sharing information that will be shared when we disclose our earnings next week. We're talking about a constructive vision of normalization of the free market for the second half of the year, as well as for 2023. That's why we are reiterating that constructive view. That affects not only volumes that depend on the implementation of the project, but also the volume baseline of the Northern Operation as a whole. Because obviously, the project as a whole will improve that competitiveness and the margin profitability, because we'll be able to offer an even better logistics solution to our clients.
Because we will be closer to the production floor. The short answer to your question is we have a very constructive view concerning Rumo's business as a whole, and we're working to continue to provide a competitive solution and good service to our clients. Now, as for the CapEx, I'll move straight into your second question. From last year to this year, last year, we announced the project. We had the first estimate, which was subject to internal studies, talking to expert consultants. We decided also to do that, to anchor the project. Now we're talking about the project specifically to Campo Verde. We have taken a more detailed look into the engineering plans, so we now have more information concerning the CapEx. I would say that the effect of more detailed engineering plans is even more considerable than the unit effects on the CapEx.
Just to conclude the answer to your question about CapEx, ex Lucas do Rio Verde or ex the project, we had been saying that there was a pressure in unit costs. Our intention has been to make good decisions, to test the scope so that we can make sure we're delivering good results. This year, we're gonna be below the long-term guidance, BRL 3.3 billion-BRL 3.7 billion a year. We're at BRL 2.8 billion a year. We continue to be sensible. We don't want to do anything that affects our operating license, but we are considering the scope and phasing so that we can continue with the right capital structure and to make sure that we implement this project because return rates are extremely attractive.
Starting now with the Campo Verde first phase, and as we saw in the presentation, if Campo Verde has this 12-14 unlevered internal rate of return in the stretch with the higher construction costs, you know we have to cross the Rio Vermelho leaving from Rondonópolis. As we go on to the railroad, the incremental rate for the next stretch will be even higher. We'll continue to make sensible business decisions to make sure that we don't ignore anything that can be accretive to the company.
That's great. Thank you. Very clear answers, and congratulations on the progress of the project.
Next question from Josh Milberg from Morgan Stanley.
Good morning. Thanks for the conference call. I have a follow-up question, and I have a question about structural improvement in the freight market that you highlighted.
How will that and how will the beginning of a new growth cycle in supply and demand with tighter logistics affect the possibility of going back to the take-or-pay contracts that you had in the past of two to three years, then potentially including other commitments? Might that be able to mitigate the higher CapEx risk? That's my first question.
Hi, Josh, how are you doing? This is Rafael. Thanks for your question. Well, we do have a constructive scenario for the freight market considering the increase in production and exports and the geopolitical role of Brazil will continue to be a major partner in the food security context. It's too soon to talk about structural changes and how freight services are contracted.
Part of our portfolio does have long-term term agreements and client investments in rolling stock, including fuel, pulp and paper producers, and we are looking into more opportunities like that. I would say that our focus right now is to have an even closer relationship with our clients through this kind of partnership, and it's already happening. We have some practical examples already of clients and partners who are investing in the major projects in Central Network. ProLíquido has invested in our sugar terminal in Itirapina. Caramuru has invested in the São Simão terminal in the Rio Verde. Bunge also. We feel comfortable that our partners see the railway as the most competitive solution, otherwise they wouldn't be investing in it with us. The same as when we say we have a strategic partner for this first terminal in Campo Verde, that only reiterates our belief.
I like to say that having to call a client and charge them or take-or-pay is less pleasant than working with the client and having the same long-term belief. We have been focusing much more on creating that kind of partnership than trying to implement very long-term agreements that can lead to sanctions. We really are focusing on these very successful partnerships where we can support our clients in a shared long view. Thank you. That's great, Rafael Bergman. Thanks for the very detailed answer. You also mentioned the project funding. That is a great deal of flexibility, the timing for the next threshold. Do you see a scenario where it might make sense to go for a follow-on over the next few years?
That considering a potential interest and investment in the next thresholds in the case that you don't have these higher rates of return? Well, a short answer to you. We do not have any plans to go to the equity market. We have planned that investment considering different types of scenario, and the modular investment fits very well with the company. We can keep the leveraging level we had planned, and which was in the presentation from 2x to 2.5 x net debt to EBITDA, and we're very comfortable with that. That's the short answer to your question. In practice, we will continue with the project, obviously, and we can't take on a very high dividend payout while we are at the peak of the investment.
It will be balanced, and as investments are reflected into higher profitability and a more balanced cash, then that can be translated into the company's payout of dividends over time. That's my answer to you. We're very comfortable with the company's capital structure at the moment.
That's great. Thank you so much for your answer. Have a great day, everyone.
The next question is by Victor Mizusaki from Bradesco BBI.
Good morning. I have a couple of questions. The first one has to do with the CapEx increase. A lot of people are concerned that you may not reach that 12%-14% rate of return.
My first question is, on Rumo's side, would it make sense to consider that given that we're talking about an authorization in a scenario where the rate of return for this project is very low or negative, considering that this authorization might even cancel the project, but you decided to continue with the project, do you think we can expect a rate of return that will be accretive to shareholders? The second question is also about the 12%-14% rate of return of the project. What are the terms for this agreement? If I'm not mistaken, it's a 45-year agreement which can be renewed. Are you just considering this first 45-year period, or have you considered perpetuity in the model?
Hi, Victor. I'll start with the second question, and then I'll turn it over to Beto, so he can answer the first one. Yes, this is a 45-year contract, and although we do have the option to renew it, right now we're focusing on this first period, and then what happens later will add to the project's return. I'll turn it over to Beto so he can answer your first question.
Hi, Victor. About your first question. Well, first of all, good morning, everyone. It's a huge pleasure to be here with you today. Obviously, the flexibility of this authorization agreement is huge. This contract that was signed with the State of Mato Grosso, compared to the concession agreements we have, this is practically a private project. We have flexible terms, flexible execution. We can also discuss the assumptions, and you can always decide not to have a 100% private investment.
We're going the other way actually. We expect that once we are in Campo Verde, we'll discuss the next steps and extensions. Obviously, the market will be in a completely different stage. You know, you've been with this project for a very long time. It's been almost four years. I know you're wondering about the CapEx, but I can safely say that we've never been so comfortable and secure about investment. You know, the stabilization of the freight market as a whole, the geopolitical scenario around the world, what's happening globally in terms of supply and demand, we fully trust and we feel fully confident about the project. We are at the best stage right now. Yes, we do have full flexibility, and this is a private project.
That's great. Thank you.
Next question is from Bruno Amorim from Goldman Sachs.
Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I'd like to understand the partnership model for the terminal, please. It's not clear to me whether the partner will be building a terminal and charge you a fee for the transit of your volumes at the terminal, and they will run the railway, or if the partner will generate cargo for the network or and then use their terminal and pay a fee to you to transport it using the railway all the way to Santos. I realize you can't disclose the details, but if you could explain the concept a little better, that would be great.
Thanks. Hi, Bruno. This is Gustavo. This is a partnership model where, yes, the client will be building the terminal to meet their own cargo needs, but also to operate in an open access regime.
This demurrage fee that you've talked about in this open access regime, that fee will be charged from third parties, other clients that might use the terminal. As we said, there are also sizing options for the terminal. We'll start with 10 million tons, but we can expand that on both the client side and Rumo's side. We have options over time. The key point about your question is to emphasize that, yes, this client does generate cargo, so they will be using the terminal to meet their demands in the short term in Campo Verde, but in the mid to the long term, as we extend Lucas do Rio Verde. The agreement we have with this client will also allow other players to use the terminal.
It will be an open access regime, which will allow a third party to generate cargo in this terminal, and Rumo will be providing rail transportation services at that terminal. Are there any take-or-pay clauses with minimum volume that you need to have at the terminal than on the other? Do you have any guarantees for a minimum volume at the terminal? If they have a lot of demand, can they use the terminal for third parties and then limit your volume in the terminal? This contract hasn't been made public yet, so we're not going to disclose that kind of information. I can say that we're doing this in the spirit of partnership. Rumo and the client share a belief in the competitiveness of railway transportation.
that leads to investment in the terminal to meet their cargo needs in the region, but also on our side, it's also important to have an open market to third parties. There are no exceptional terms or clauses in this agreement. It is a partnership model like many others that we have and that Rafael Bergman mentioned in previous answers. this was a way to have more flexibility and to be able to address more volume.
That's great. Thank you.
Next question is from Rogério Araújo.
Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the call. Could you help us with some assumptions so that we can try to model this first phase? Could you share an expected range for new volume all the way to Santos and the existing volume, which is this additional 200 kilometers and adding those two stretches up? And the second question is about rates.
If you could tell us about the comparison with the market rates and Rumo's rate when you continue to look at the Rio Verde? Could you share what the first rate would be for this first look at the Rio Verde phase compared to what is charged in the Northern Operation? In terms of the expected EBITDA, what direction do you think things are going? Will it be higher or lower than the Northern Operation without counting the terminals?
Rogério, this is Gustavo. We weren't completely clear about these assumptions because this is a modular project. Some of the assumptions you've mentioned will depend on the size of the Campo Verde terminal. If we have a 10 million ton terminal in Campo Verde, it will mean higher pressure in terms of capacity.
Your ability to absorb additional volume in Campo Verde will be limited by this 10 million-ton capacity. On the other hand, the rate, the yields you can have in Campo Verde will come from minimum effort to obtain the cargo. You might say that in a lower capacity scenario in Campo Verde, the rates will be higher and the incremental levels will be lower. As you increase capacity at the Campo Verde terminal, then you will address markets that are further north from Campo Verde. Your incremental rate level will be lower, but you'll be capturing higher incremental volume. At the end of the day, this is all reflected in that deleveraged rate of return that we shared with you from 12%-14%. As for the tariffs, the best way to think about it is we have a tariff in Rondonópolis.
Obviously, we are increasing transportation by 211 kilometers, and that will lead to a corresponding increase in the tariff. What we tried to make clear in the presentation is that port's potential tariffs are much higher. Bruno should be positioned between that potential tariff and what might be this tariff that replicates this 211 kilometers. There's no point in setting that level for models right now because that level will vary according to what's happening in the market when the terminal goes into operation. This has been covered by our internal rate of return. I don't think we should share a tariff guidance at the moment. It would be precipitated. As for the margins, Rogério, two things make us very comfortable about the fact that the margin in this additional stretch will be incremental to what we had.
First, we'll be diluting fixed costs and also the operating leverage generated by the project. The second one has to do with fuel consumption. Right now, our rail stretch in Mato Grosso is much flatter than what we have in São Paulo. The fuel consumption we see in Mato Grosso is much less than the average we see in the Northern Operation. All the engineering plans for Campo Verde as well as for Lucas do Rio Verde, that the average fuel efficiency we'll have will be below the current average consumption we see in the whole stretch. I think it would be reasonable to consider that both the percentage margin as well as the absolute margin will be higher with the new stretch.
That's great. That's very clear. Thanks so much.
Next question will be in England, and it'll be asked by Stephen Trent from Citibank.
Thanks very much for taking my question, and good morning. Apologies that I'm out of the office as you guys held this presentation, so I haven't seen the presentation. Apologies in advance if you've already stated this. I am just curious, when we think about the 211 kilometers expansion, you know, do you have a high level benchmark, for example, you know, for every 20 or 30 kilometers of expansion, how much market share you might gain from the trucks or other competitors? Thank you very much. Hello, can you hear me?
The answer is that there won't be any intermediate gains. We'll only generate cargo when we get to the Campo Verde terminal.
Asking that question another way, when you do get to Campo Verde terminal, you know, any high-level view to what extent you could have a greater share of the cargo flow versus the trucks. Thank you.
I'll answer in Portuguese this time. The whole rationale of this project is based on the fact that as you move towards the north, then you are increasing your market share. What will determine our ability to increase our market share in Campo Verde will be precisely the size of the terminal. A smaller terminal will mean less room for additional volume. That will limit our market share gain in the short term. As we increase capacity in Campo Verde, or as we move to the next phase of the extension to Nova Mutum, that will mean more available capacity, which in turn will mean additional market share gains.
Okay. Very helpful. Thank you.
I just want to thank everyone for the questions and for joining us on this conference call. I also would like to thank our shareholders for their trust. Thank them for supporting Rumo with investment. All of our team is extremely happy with what we're doing and with the opportunity we're having to build a new company. This project is a very transformational project. It's a new company that will arise as of next week after four years of hard work, effort, and diligence in overcoming all the regulatory, environmental, and engineering obstacles we've had to overcome. It will definitely be followed by great value generation for the company and everyone. It will be a much better world for agribusiness for the whole country. Thank you so much, and we'll see you next week during our earnings call for the third quarter.
It will also help in the discussion about this project. Thank you.