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Earnings Call: Q4 2021

Feb 11, 2022

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. Welcome to the Usiminas conference call, where we will discuss the results of the fourth quarter of 2021 and year 2021. I am Leonardo Karam, Usiminas Investor Relations General Manager. Translation of the webcast presentation is available on the Usiminas IR website. We also have an interpreter for simultaneous translation. Please choose the sound channel on the icon at the bottom of your Zoom screen.

All participants are logged on listen-only mode, and questions can be asked in writing in the Zoom Q&A session. This is an icon at the bottom of your screen. Participants who are listening in English can also ask questions directly in this section. This conference call is being recorded and simultaneously broadcasted through the Usiminas YouTube channel. Please note that this conference call is exclusively for investors and market analysts. Please identify yourselves so that your question can be answered and for better flow, please limit your questions to two questions per participant. We also request that questions from journalists be directed to Usiminas Media Relations by the phone 313-499-8918 or email imprensa@usiminas.com.

Before proceeding, we would like to clarify that forward-looking statements made during this conference call regarding the company's business prospects as well as projections, operating and financial targets regarding its growth potential, are forecasts based on the management's expectations regarding Usiminas' future. These expectations are highly dependent on the performance of the steel sector, the country's economic situation, and the situation of international markets, and therefore are subject to change. With us today, we have Usiminas' Executive Board President, Sergio Leite, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations, Alberto Ono, Industrial Vice-President, Américo Neto, Vice-President of Corporate Planning, Yoshiaki Shimada, Vice-President of Technology and Quality, Kohei Kimura, Commercial Vice-President, Miguel Homes, President Director of Mineração Usiminas, Carlos Rezzonico, Executive Director of Soluções Usiminas, Cánio Merighi, Superintendent Director of Usiminas Mecânica, Fernando Mazzoni, Legal Director , Bruno Paulino, and Controllership Director, Julio Arroyo.

Initially, Sergio Leite will make initial remarks. Subsequently, Alberto Ono will present the results. At last, the questions in the Q&A session will be answered. I now turn the floor over to Mr. Sergio. Sergio, you have the floor.

Sergio Leite
Executive Board President, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you very much. Good morning, everyone. Thank you very much for participating in our results live session. For us, it is a great satisfaction. Today, we are presenting the results of 2021. This was an important year for Usiminas in its history, the best year of all of our history, where we present a consolidated EBITDA that supersedes BRL 12 billion, net profit above BRL 10 billion, over BRL 7 billion in cash, a negative net debt. 2021 undoubtedly was a very important year for us in Usiminas. We are embarking in 2021 with important challenges ahead of us and in the upcoming years.

We are also working intensively in our pluriannual plan. That is our plan for 2022 and 2023, and our view 2031. That is our long-term planning. We are intensively working. Within our long-term plans, one of the main objectives would be climate changes and our ESG agenda. Today, we are presenting to the market a new set of targets of our ESG agenda. Here we have 10 targets for 2022. Usiminas' commitment to reduce greenhouse gas effect emissions, together with the ESG agenda and everything that will affect mankind in the upcoming 30 years is very important for us. Once again, I would like to thank you for the support that the market has given us, and we will continue firm, building the present and the future of Usiminas. Thank you to all of you. Alberto, you have the floor now.

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Good morning to everyone. I will take my mask off to improve the audio quality. Now we can go to our first slide. Here we can see we will start with our yearly results. Steel unit sales. Here we have 4.8 million tons. It is the best result in terms of volume since 2013. Therefore, we have been waiting for this result for a long period of time. We wanted to achieve this figure in terms of sales. The increase was of 30% vis-à-vis 2020 in terms of iron ore sales. That is the following chart. These are record sales. We exceeded 9 million tons. This is the best figure from Mineração Usiminas. In terms of EBITDA, we achieved a new record BRL 12.8 billion with 38% margin. This basically is twice the figure that we had in the past.

This is a significant figure in terms of net profit, a new record, BRL 10 billion with a number of observations. We have a number of extraordinary effects that contributed for this profit. If you eliminate the extraordinary effects, we have the best figure in our history. Now to our next slide. Here, we have broken out our EBITDA. Here you can see the level that was reached in 2021, and here it's broken out, and we can see the non-recurring effects throughout the year. I believe that the two main points of the year here would be tax credit, especially PIS/Cofins, and also a reversal of our health plan liabilities. Therefore, we had a significant effect, and this is concentrated on the fourth quarter regarding the extraordinary effects. Here with BRL 2.1 billion, but the operating effect of almost BRL 11 billion.

But anyhow, this is the best historic figures even when we discount the non-recurring effects. Now, the steel unit. Here, I would say the same. In the case of the steel unit, tax credits were BRL 1.7 billion. Here we have the reversal of health plan liabilities. This was connected to the steel unit, and you can see the effect here. When we exclude the non-recurring effects of BRL 6.7 billion, this is the best EBITDA number in history. Now, when we go to our next slide, here is Mineração Usiminas. In Mineração this year, practically, we see no recurring effects. BRL 3.5 billion is an operational figure, a margin of 60% during the year. It is the best historic EBITDA of our operation. Now when we go to the next slide. Here in Soluções Usiminas, we also can see a historic record now. We have non-recurring effects.

We had tax credits with PIS/Cofins and some adjustments, especially that took place during the fourth quarter. Here we have provisions for inventory adjustments and provisions for tax credits. This appeared at the end of the year, and you will see the effect on the quarter. Nonetheless, this is an EBITDA of almost BRL 1 billion with a two-digit margin. This is the first time we see this in Soluções Usiminas as an annual result. Now when we go to the results of the quarter. In the case of steel unit sales, there was a drop that is aligned with our guidance. That would be 1.1 million tons in terms of sales. Mainly, we see a significant decrease in the export area. This has already been mentioned in the past, and here we can observe a seasonality during the fourth quarter that was emblematic.

Now in terms of iron ore sales, there was an increase vis-à-vis the last quarter, 8%, 2.6 million tons, and this helps us to make up the year's record. We also have the adjusted EBITDA, practically BRL 2.5 billion, 31% margin in terms of net profit. This was BRL 2.5 billion. Positive contributions because of the tax credits that were accounted during this quarter, and also the reversion of the health plan liabilities, and this also helped us with the quarter figures. Now on our next slide. Here we have broken out this information, and you can see the non-recurring effects on our EBITDA. Here you can see that we're at BRL 620 million that are non-recurring effects. Now on our next slide, in the steel unit, most of these effects were in the steel units. These were BRL 666 million of non-recurring effects for EBITDA BRL 2 billion.

Well here, in the mining unit, Mineração Usiminas, you can see a drop. A continuous drop since Q2 of last year, of 2021, regarding the result. Basically, you can see that this was driven by the price variation in the market. You can see that there was a drop of almost 33%. In the press release, we've commented on discounts regarding qualities that during this quarter was a bit more expressive. Therefore, the EBITDA of Mineração during the quarter resulted in a figure lower than in the past quarters. Now on our next slide, here in Soluções Usiminas, the operating EBITDA of BRL46 million and then is affected by a non-recurring effect. This was a provision for inventory adjustments and provisions for tax credits. So during the quarter, the EBITDA was BRL 11 million negative. Now, speaking of working capital.

Here you can see a drop of 4% in the quarter vis-à-vis Q3. Here, there is greater oscillation when we see taxes recoverable. So taxes recoverable that were already, this, we maintained a regime of BRL 100 million in terms of tax offset, and therefore, we could reduce this amount in the working capital. These are non-recurring effects. Here, we see a drop of 6.7 billion to 6.6 billion in terms of working capital discounting tax credits. We will see throughout the next slides, a drop in terms of steel inventories. There is a drop of 8% in volume, but it is stable. We could say that it is stable in 70 days. Its working capital, it is stable. It goes from 69 to 70.

We are still at a level slightly above the normal inventory turnover days, but we believe that things will normalize from here on. Now our next slide.

Here we have our cash position and indebtedness. Our debt increased a little bit, BRL 6.3 billion because of the exchange rate variation. We had a devaluation of the real vis-à-vis the last quarter. Nonetheless, our cash flow is BRL 7 billion and therefore, our net cash is positive by BRL 700 million. Therefore, our net leverage is negative. Regarding our CapEx, we achieved BRL 1.5 billion within our guidance for the year, and there was an acceleration in the steel mill projects, but also our dry stacking project ended, and this contributed with the quarter CapEx. So this is why we were able to achieve our guidance as well. Now on our next slide. During the last quarter, we have a CapEx that is twofold. The last quarter is BRL 600 million. There was an acceleration in steel and mining.

This is what Sergio stated regarding our targets for 2021.

What was the final agenda here we have a target. Our first target is being reviewed, and although this is something that we wanted to achieve in 2022 and 2021, we realized that we had to carry out an adjustment. There is one goal that has to be reviewed, and what we did not meet was zero accident target, lost time accidents. Unfortunately, we did not achieve this target. There was a certain delay regarding the dry stack project, but it was concluded throughout the year. Therefore, we believe that this is mission accomplished, but with a certain delay. Another group of goals for 2022. Some are repeated here regarding what we did in 2021, like accident frequency rate. Now we have other targets that are associated to concepts that already existed in 2021, like greenhouse gas effect emissions.

Also regarding the inventories, we continue incorporating this as our goals for 2022, basically. This is it. After the presentation, we can entertain the questions.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Ladies and gentlemen, we will go to our Q&A session. Our first question is from Daniel Sasson and Caio Ribeiro, Bank of America. Miguel, they want to know about our expectation of price negotiation with the car industry in April. What is the gap between the automobile industries that negotiate in April and January? This summarizes the question of these two participants.

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Leo. Good morning, Daniel and Caio. As a matter of fact, the negotiation with the auto assemblers, the contracts are valid as of April. We started negotiations in the past two weeks. Although Usiminas does not announce future events, we closed the contracts that are valid as of January with an increase of 60% and 70%. They represent around 20% of our sales volumes for the auto industry, and these are globalized and internal sales. You have to remember that one of the industries has operations in Brazil and in Argentina. Therefore, we believe that the April negotiations should follow or should be aligned with the contracts that were signed in January because the scenario is very similar.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. There is an add-on, but I believe that you already gave the answer. Thiago Lofiego said: What percentage of your contracts were renewed in January?

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

It is 20%. This is important for your calculation, and you have to bear in mind that the price impact of this 20%, one part will be on our internal sales and the other part on our globalized sales.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. Our next question comes from. It is about cost, Alberto, from Daniel Sasson and Caio Ribeiro from Bank of America. What are your expectations on the coal impact in the cash flow during the quarter? How much can this cash cost increase, and how do you believe that margins will evolve? Caio asked about this dynamic of cost during the first quarter of 2022 regarding coal. What about the impact of the price increase of coal, the coal price increase?

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Daniel and Caio, for your questions. Now, coal. The price of coal has increased, and this is something that we have observed since Q3 and Q4. There has been a sharp increase in terms of prices. This, according to our inventories, we have an estimate of four months of inventory, generally of coal, right?

From the moment where prices started to increase, now we will see the effect gradually coming into effect during Q1. We have to remember that today, within our operation, only one part of our steel production or of rolled steel will use more coal because the other part has another dynamic. It is difficult to talk about the general composition of what the behavior of the price will be. I can say that still during Q1, the expectation is that we will not feel a strong effect from this. Now, as of Q2, we will feel a more intense effect. I would like to remind you that mainly now in January, although the price of coal is increasing, we also see a valuation of the BRL that will affect this dynamic. So by and large, I could say that for Q1, we will not feel intense effects.

Nonetheless, the trends from the second quarter and the third quarter, well, yes, I believe that we will feel the effects.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Our next question is about the seasonality and volumes from fourth quarter. This comes from Thiago Lofiego, Bradesco, and Milton Sullivan, XP. They want to know about the performance of the domestic market during Q4 because Usiminas dropped more than the competition. There was a drop in the shares. Here we have data of IABr that shows that competitors dropped 18% and Usiminas dropped 28%. Quarter-on-quarter, they want to know about this performance and if Usiminas lost share during the quarter, and if there is an expectation of recovering the share, this market share in the upcoming quarter.

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Good morning, Milton and Thiago. As a matter of fact, fourth quarter showed a seasonality that is typical of this period.

What happened when you analyze our figures, we felt the impact of sales drop in distributors, distribution offset by the industry performance. The auto industry also had a complex quarter, mainly because of the lack of semiconductors that affected the production and the consumption of steel in the auto industry. When you analyze the market share during a quarter, it can lead you to wrong results. The fourth quarter sometimes is affected by variations of our customers and the sectors, so it would be more correct to analyze longer periods. When we talk about market share, we have to analyze 2021, our performance was higher. Of course, we had a drop in distribution. We always say that Usiminas sales, we could classify 1/3 in the distribution sector, 1/3 in the industry, and 1/3 in the auto industry.

When we analyzed Q4, 39% of our sales were allocated in the industrial sector and 30, 31 allocated in the distribution and auto industry. In distribution, they were impacted because there was an increase in imports. We have a forecast that there will be a drop going back to historic levels that represent around 10%, 11% of the apparent consumptions. We continue working closely with our customers, our partners from the distribution sector in order to go back to our historic representation. That is 1/3 of our sales. The first quarter of 2022 presents a typical seasonality of the cycle that we see in each one of the years, and we will follow the growth of this sector throughout 2022. That is our expectation.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. Our next question for Carlos Rezzonico. They want to know the results from MUSA. So we have questions from Leonardo Correa, BTG.

Marcio Farid, Goldman Sachs, and Kohei Kimura. Everybody wants information. Here, I'm going to try to summarize regarding the MUSA results. They see a better prospect for the upcoming quarters with the level of iron ore, the drop of the freight prices. Could you comment on the discounts? This is higher than what we expected, and we want to know what to expect in the upcoming quarters because we will have more rainfalls and more difficulties for processing. Also the mining prices and the discount expectations for the first quarter. And what to expect in terms of prices throughout the year and discounts as well. Unfortunately, his microphone is off. Carlos, your microphone is muted. I will pose the next question, okay? Then we will go back to you. Our next question is for Alberto from Leo Correa, from BTG Pactual, Carlos de Alba.

Everybody wants to know about the capital allocation due to the excess of cash. Why don't you consider your cash policy for shareholders? What are you going to do with the surplus of cash, and if there will be a change in your dividend policy? If not, where is this cash going to? Rafael Barcelos wants you to comment on the net and gross debt level, something that you consider ideal for the company. Alberto?

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Leo, Carlos, and Rafael. Thank you for your questions. Regarding dividends, we have not changed anything regarding our current policy, so we will maintain, for the time being, our 25%, that is by law. The main reason to maintain a conservative management in terms of the company's cash flow is because we still have a matter regarding CapEx and working capital.

This 2022 and 2023 will be years where we will have a significant CapEx. We already announced our guidance for 2022, that is slightly above BRL 2 billion in investments. Therefore, it is a significant figure for the company. We have not invested this much in a long period of time. Just in one year. Therefore, this is a challenge. Because this CapEx will be financed by our cash flow generation. We want to finance our CapEx with our own cash. So this is why we need to have a solid cash position. In addition to this, as the main project, that is the Blast Furnace 3 retrofit. In less than one year, we will start the retrofit. We expect to start it during the second semester of 2023.

In less than one year, we will be in our countdown, and to prepare this retrofit, we will have to stock slabs in order to feed our rolling mills during a shutdown. A shutdown that will be above 100 days. Therefore, we have to stock a certain amount of slabs. Therefore, all of this, our objective is to finance all of this with our cash. With these two components, we still have to be conservative regarding our management, at least until we end the Blast Furnace 3 retrofit. This is the main matter, and this is why we have not changed our dividend policies because we need to finance these projects using our cash. This is something that will take place in the upcoming two years, I mean, 2022 and 2023. Now, regarding our indebtedness. We have been discussing together with our board regarding what would be ideal.

We still have not reached a conclusion, but by and large, what we have to understand is which would be the level of generation, the level of EBITDA that should be used for this. Because mainly when we talk about leverage, there are a number of aspects in terms how you will select the nominator. The denominator here, it would be the debt, but the denominator, you have to be careful to do this. We just cannot extend for a long period of time a low figure, neither a high figure. This is something that we have to consider. Therefore, this is a matter that still has not been concluded, and we are still discussing these matters together with our board.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Carlos. We already resolved your technical problem. The question. Leo Correa, Gabriela Cortez from Inter, Marcio Farid from Goldman Sachs, and [Lukish Porgy].

They want to know about your prospects in prices and discounts in Mineração. Leo says, if you see better perspectives in the upcoming quarter with the level of spot iron ore and the drop of freight. Could you talk about discounts of products during the quarter? It was higher than I expected. I would like to better understand what to expect during the next quarter because there will be more difficulties of processing and more rainfalls. What are your prospects regarding prices and discounts for Q1 and the same thing for the year?

Carlos Rezzonico
President Director, Mineração Usiminas

Now can you hear me?

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Yes, Carlos, we can hear you.

Carlos Rezzonico
President Director, Mineração Usiminas

All right. As you know, the mining area, after an extraordinary period throughout the last years, at the end of last year, faced a perfect storm. Why do you say almost perfect storm? Because prices dropped, discounts increases, transportation increased by historic levels.

We went above $40 for freight. The situation during the beginning of last quarter was negative. The prices of other commodities like coal also had important record discounts. There was a drop in our margin during the last quarter, which was significant. Some of these factors have already been corrected because the discounts today are much lower than the historic value that I mentioned. Shipping also dropped, freight dropped, and this also improves most of the situation. The mining industry expected to see an improvement and that this would take place after the Olympic Games, after winter. After the market adopted measures, the market thought that China would improve. The market was expecting an economic improvement in China.

Today, the situation is the following: We have prices that anticipate this improvement that was expected after the Olympic Games, especially because of lower environmental pressure in a number of regions in China, outside of the areas where the Olympic Games are taking place. There is a greater demand and there is a greater occupation of the blast furnaces. This in a market where the suppliers still cannot quickly respond due to a number of circumstances. They cannot meet this demand, sudden demand that comes from China. Therefore, now the prices are at a level of 150, and this also created a strong drop in discounts. This was driven by the drop of prices of other commodities like coal. We still have uncertainties ahead of us. The shipping prices. We also see the increase in oil prices, sometimes generated by the European expectations.

We still have an expectation regarding what is going to happen in China. In regard to the real estate sector, there are uncertainties regarding the stimulus plan from China, something that China will deploy after winter. There is no doubt that our expectation is more optimistic because the market variables have accommodated price shipping discounts. Perhaps in the case of MUSA, during the first quarter, we will feel a negative impact because of the rainfalls. We lost around 200,000 tons in January because of the rainfalls. Regarding the market, our market is helping us, and if things continue as we expect, the results will improve. I do not know, Leo, if you have another question regarding the market situation for me?

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Carlos, perhaps the quality discount expectation.

Carlos Rezzonico
President Director, Mineração Usiminas

The discounts have dropped a lot. The levels of $20 in discount in the beginning of the last quarter of 2021. Today, this discount has significantly dropped, and it is below $10. Therefore, yes, the improvement of price is followed by a drop in discounts. I am talking about the quality that we deliver to the market. This is why it is a very important factor regarding our future prospects.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Carlos. Our next question is for Alberto. This is from Carlos de Alba regarding working capital. What are your expectations in the upcoming quarters regarding your working capital?

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Carlos, in terms of financial figures, it is difficult to say because they will depend on the price dynamic. What I can say in volumes is connected to the shutdown of the Blast Furnace 3 for its retrofit. In the upcoming quarters, progressively, there will be an increase of slab inventory to prepare ourselves for this shutdown. This inventory is carried out six and 12 months before the shutdown for 12 months is as of April. Historically, as of Q2, we can start observe an increase of inventories of slabs. The peak will take place during the shutdown, a day before the shutdown. This is where we will have the highest inventory slab level, because afterwards, we start consumptions. In terms of volume, the trend from here on will be an upward progression.

In financial terms, this will depend on the evolution of price and costs from the market prices and costs. Beyond that, I can't say much.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Another question from Carlos de Alba from tax credits. When will they stop affecting the Usiminas results? He's talking about PIS/Cofins.

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Carlos, regarding tax credits, two things are important. Currently, regarding PIS/Cofins, we do not have any further expectations for the time being of new tax credits. What will happen from here on is that we will use these tax credits now. Here we have the non-recurring assets. We ended with 1.1 billion BRL. We want to offset this in the upcoming 12 months. There are other tax credits or credits that have already been recognized, but they are in our long-term assets. This will take a little bit longer because there are specificities regarding what kind of taxes and then what kind of payments you will use this for the government. Therefore, this has a different characteristic. What is in our balance sheet of the short-term non-recurrent asset is to offset this in 12 months.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Carlos de Alba and Rafael Barcelos. They want to know about CapEx. What is your CapEx expectation beyond 2022? I mean 2023. Rafael asked if there is an update. Could you have a new galvanizing line?

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Carlos and Rafael, regarding CapEx. In addition to 2022, we cannot give you a formal guidance. In terms of concepts, I would say the trend is to have something very similar, at least in 2023. Similar to 2022, because this is where we will carry out this major project, that is Blast Furnace 3. This is where we will use a lot of CapEx. Here, we should see a figure similar to 2022. At least this is our feeling. Regarding the new galvanizing line. We're studying this, and nothing has been approved by the board yet. But we are analyzing an opportunity because this is a product that is high intense in terms of imports. So we believe that this is a market opportunity. Nonetheless, we still have not decided anything. What we can say is that we are analyzing possibilities.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Carlos, we have a question from Carlos de Alba about Mineração. He asks about if you see seasonality in the shipments of 2022, and what is the expected mix between CFR and FOB.

Carlos Rezzonico
President Director, Mineração Usiminas

We do not expect any type of seasonality. Perhaps, as I mentioned, the rainfall impacts during the first quarter will result in a slight drop in the production, and we will try to recover this, especially in the east mine. So perhaps this could cause a difference between rainfall period and drought period, but this effect doesn't happen by and large. This was on a normal year. These were rainfalls that were above rainfalls in the past. We haven't seen this in the past.

There were moments of rainfalls that are characterized as millimeter rainfalls. Therefore, this can be considered a seasonal impact, but this does not take place by and large every year. After the special period that we are undergoing, I see no problems in the future. The other question was?

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

If you have a mixed projection between CFR and FOB?

Carlos Rezzonico
President Director, Mineração Usiminas

We define operation per operation. This is why many times the results are different, and many times you ask us, "Why? Because the price dropped so much. Why did the income drop?" This is the result of our sales. As I said, we do not have a target. I cannot say that we will try to have 50% of CFR or FOB. The results in terms of operations, and we look for the best alternatives for each one of these operations.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Carlos. Our next question to Miguel. Miguel, regarding price. Rafael Barcelos, Santander, and Caio Ribeiro , they ask about the steel price dynamic in the beginning of the year. Caio Ribeiro wants to know about the absorption of steel prices, and this is something that is being implemented in February. Miguel?

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Leo, as a matter of, after the adjustment throughout the fourth quarter of 2021, following the prices of raw material exchange, freight, and the international prices, and the situation of market demand. We informed, and we increased prices as of February in the distribution sector. As I said, the other sectors, especially industrial contracts, will receive adjustments when we update each one of the contracts. When we renew the contracts. There was an increase in February with the situation of the market regarding the increase of prices of the raw material. With the international situation, we believe that we will see an increase in prices in February.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. We have a question. Carlos de Alba, Rafael Barcelos from Santander, and Gustavo Lima from Nave Capital. They want to know about the sales mix for the first quarter, domestic and export market. Gustavo says that the proportion of the market was 25% above historic levels. If we will see this throughout 2022, we will go back to normal levels. This is a quarter about your mix, and what will happen.

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

It is important. We have high priority and responsibility to meet all the needs of our domestic customers. In periods, in cycles that have a typical seasonality, what we see in Q1 and Q4, it is logic to think that Q1 will present a similar mix to what we saw in Q4 of 2021. We have already announced our sales guidance between 1.1 million and 1.2 million tons for Q1 of 2022, and we can expect a similar mix of internal and foreign sales for quarter four.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you. Miguel, another point. Thiago Lofiego from Bradesco wants to know the growth expectation in terms of volumes for 2022?

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

2022, according to the last Focus Report, and say that the GDP in Brazil will go 0.3%. There are areas that expect a higher performance, like Anfavea expects a production increase of 9% in cars. The associations of highway producers expect a higher growth. There are segments with positive performance. We also have agribusiness, machinery projects of renewable energy, wind energy, solar energy. The prices of oils could provide new opportunities and projects that could be executed during the second semester. So the prospects are positive. The last figures that were published by Aço Brazil talk about a growth of 0.5% and 2.5% in sales, 0.5% in consumption. As I said, we expect a reduction of import share when it comes to steel in Brazil.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Our next question is to Alberto. Carlos de Alba from Morgan Stanley. He wants to know about SG&A. What is the new level of SG&A for the company?

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Carlos, the reason of your question is what happened during Q4 regarding our SG&A. You have to remember that in terms of SG&A, that is sales, is affected by higher export levels during Q4. So part of the expenses of sales abroad are included in this line. As there was a significant increase in our exports during Q4, the SG&A, because of the commercial side, is a bit different during this quarter.

Now, in terms of G&A, well, our expectation is that there will be a correction in the turn of the first quarter because of collective bargainings to remunerate our employees. We have to remember that the accumulated inflation between 2020 and 2021 was a significant figure. It depends on the index, it goes between 8% and 10%, depending on what period you analyze. This is going to impact our payroll as G&A. So a good part of these expenses come from our payroll. Now, as of Q1 of 2022, we will feel the impact of this readjustment in our payroll because of the inflation. This is the G&A, so we have to separate these things. S is because of the sales volume, mainly towards the foreign market, that during Q1, as Miguel already mentioned.

Well, our expectation is to have a higher volume when you compare it to the average of the year of 2021, perhaps similar to what we saw during the fourth quarter. So this is a matter of seasonality in the domestic market. Nonetheless, the G&A will be corrected because of the inflation adjustment, especially because of our payroll. So this is what we can say about this point.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Alberto. Well, our next question is for Américo about rainfalls. Victor Junior. He wants to know the impact that we should expect during Q1 because of the paralyzations caused by rainfalls.

Américo Neto
Industrial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Victor, thank you for your question. Well, we did not have to stop the steel production because of rainfalls. The rainfall periods are known. The plants are totally prepared in order to deal with these type of effects. In January, we had intense rainfalls.

But obviously, with this, we had to create logistic alternatives, not only to receive raw material, but to ship our products. We also have stocks for the blast furnace. The rainfall committee was created during the rain period, and we were able to absorb with a number of alternatives, and therefore, our plants were not impacted by the rainfalls and therefore were not shut down.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Américo. Our next question is for Miguel, from Bruno de Toledo, an individual. He wants to know about the contracts. Perhaps it's for the industry. What will be your strategy? Your contract strategy would be yearly, semestral, quarterly contracts.

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Bruno, well, Usiminas has a long-term relationship with each one, with our partners. We have not changed our contract negotiation strategy because of the market situation and the year. This being said, we can confirm the automobile contracts are renewed every year. The contract with the other industry, most of them, these are quarterly contracts, and distribution contracts are contracts that are carried out every month.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. The next question is for Alberto. That is about the liability management. Leonardo Ono wants to know if it makes sense to have a liability management operation extending terms. Tim Owens from Schroders, he wants to know, what about the conversations with the rating agencies because of a strong credit structure, and if you expect to do something regarding the bond market. How do you see the bond market during an election year? Alberto, you can answer.

Alberto Ono
VP of Finance and Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Leonardo, Tim, thank you very much for your questions. Let's go straight to the point. Regarding a new access or a possible operation in order to refinance our debt, we are always assessing the market conditions and analyzing different opportunities. I cannot say anything in advance, but we are paying attention to a number of options. The decision is taken according to the options that we have ahead of us, and if it is appropriate or not. We are always monitoring the situation, and for the time being, I cannot say anything about this because we have no news. Regarding the rating agencies, we are constantly in contact with the three main rating agencies we have. Every time we announce our results and even the follow-up before announcing results, we have contact with them.

The rating improvement that we have seen in the past two years are a result of this contact.

Last week, for instance, there was an upgrade in our rating in the local market. All of this is done constantly. We have close contact with these agencies.

The three main rating agencies, I mean. Regarding an access to market before or after elections, this depends on the market situation. We are monitoring the situation. We believe that there are always windows of opportunities, not only because of the domestic market, but also because of the foreign market. A typical example would be a major discussion regarding the possible increase of the U.S. interest rate, and this also influences the access to market or not, and so forth. Therefore, what I can answer is that we are paying attention. We are continuously monitoring the situation, and we will make a decision at a given moment when we find it more appropriate. This is what we can state. But we are constantly observing the market.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you very much. Thank you, Alberto. Our next question is for Miguel. Miguel, question would be parity from Bank of America. He wants to know, where do you see a parity premium for import, and what freight do you use?

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Guilherme, the variables that are part of our parity have suffered volatility. When we implemented our increase in February, parity would be around 50%. Nonetheless, in the international market, there was a significant increase in prices, and with the price of the international market, the parity would be close to zero.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. Our next question and the last question, due to our time, and there are questions that we will answer afterwards. Guilherme Rosito from Bank of America. He wants to know, what about the steel inventories in your chain?

Miguel Homes
Commercial VP, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

In our chain, in the chains of the different industrial sectors, the steel inventories were normalized at the end of Q3. What happened during Q3 was a distortion of inventories in the distribution because high imports at the end of the year. Our expectation is that imports will drop in the upcoming months and will go back to normal levels. This is the same thing with the steel inventory in the distribution sector. We expect a normalization in all the chains that consume steel.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Miguel. Our Q&A session has come to an end. I would like to give the floor back to Sergio for his final remarks.

Sergio Leite
Executive Board President, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

Thank you, Leo. First and foremost, I would like to thank all of you for participating in our live results call and wish all of you an excellent 2022 with excellent businesses. We will meet you again in April to present the results of Q1. Thank you very much and a big hug to everybody.

Leonardo Karam
General Manager of Investor Relations, Usinas Siderúrgicas de Minas Gerais

We thank all of you for your participation. Should you have any doubts, the investor relation teams is at your disposal. Good afternoon to everyone.