Welcome to the Conference Call of VEG to announce the results of the Q3 of 2020. We are broadcasting this conference call along with the slides on our Investor Relations website at ri. Veg.net. And upon completion, the audio recording will be available on our IR website. Any forecast contained herein or any statements that may be made during this conference call regarding future events, business outlook, operational and financial projections and targets and WEGS' future growth potential constitute mere beliefs and expectations of WEGS' management and are based on information currently available.
These statements involve risks and uncertainties and therefore, depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions and other operating factors may affect WEG's future performance and may lead to results that will differ from such forward looking statements. We would like to remind you that this conference call is being conducted in Portuguese, and you are listening to the simultaneous translation into English. Today with us in Jaragua do Sul, we have Mr. Andres Luis Rodriguez, Managing Director of Finance and Investor Relations Paulo Palese, Finance Director Vilson Vazco, Comptroller and Andrei Meneguetri Salgueiro, Investor Relations Manager at FEGI.
Mr. Andre Rodrigues, please you may start. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be with you once again for the conference call of VEGS. We are going to start with the highlights of the quarter, the first one being the net operating revenue, which grew 43.3% compared to 3Q 'nineteen.
This performance is the result of the resumption of demand for our short cycle equipment, mainly in the domestic markets, together with a good portfolio of long cycle businesses as reported in recent quarters. This improvement in short cycle business in a domestic market occurred practically in all business areas, though at different basis. The highlight is the recovery of commercial engines and appliances, coatings and distributed solar generation businesses reaching at the end of the quarter levels similar to those of the period before the pandemic. In the foreign market, in spite of the gradual improvement, we have not yet had the same recovery observed in Brazil. Another highlight of the 3rd quarter was the EBITDA, which grew 61.5 percent to BRL 935,000,000.
The EBITDA margin grew 2.2 percentage points to 19.5%. Throughout the presentation, Paolo will give you more details about this variation. Finally, we had another quarter of evolution of the ROIC, as we will see on the next slide, which had a growth of 4.1 percentage points in relation to 3Q 'nineteen, reaching 23.3%. The consistency of this indicator in recent quarters is a reflection of the improvement of our operating performance as demonstrated by the combination of revenue growth and EBITDA margin expansion, exceeding investments made and requiring less working capital this year. Now I will give the floor to Paolo Polesi to continue.
Mr. Polesi, please? Good morning, everyone. On Slide 5, I present the evolution of our business areas in the markets where we operate, starting with electronic equipment in Brazil, where we presented an important recovery in demand for short cycle equipment, especially serial automation products and low voltage engines, a movement that can be associated with high demand in the construction and agroindustry sectors in a period. We also kept the pace of deliveries for important long cycle projects with emphasis on projects related to mining, oil and gas, pulp and paper.
GTD was again the highlight of the quarter, where much of the revenue is linked to long cycle equipment. In Brazil, we had deliveries for important projects mainly related to the transmission auctions held in recent years. In addition to this good performance, the Distributed Solar Generation Business, GD, similar to other short cycle businesses of the company in Brazil, showed an important recovery in the quarter, reaching an activity level above that of 1Q 'twenty. In commercial engines and appliances, the recovery movement observed at the end of 2Q 'twenty continued throughout this quarter, showing rapid improvement in activity, especially in engines for home appliances, motor pumps and commercial compressors. In coatings, there was also a rapid resumption in businesses supported by the recovery of important segments, such as road supplies, agricultural machinery, home appliances and civil construction.
In the foreign market, it's important to highlight the variation in FX rates played an important role in the growth of 37.8 percent of revenue measured in BRL. In local currencies, according to the weight of each market, net foreign revenue grew 4.5% compared to 3Q '19. In the area of industrial electroelectronic equipment, especially low voltage engines, we observed the continuity of the gradual resumption of the global economic activity after the initial impact of the pandemic. At the lower level, however, when compared to the same period last year, For long cycle equipment, we maintained the good performance observed in last quarters with orders being delivered to relevant segments such as oil and gas, water and sanitation. In GTD, we present another quarter of good results with the continuity of relevant deliveries being made in U.
S. And Mexico with an important contribution of the synergy between our operations in North America. In Commercial Engines and Appliances, our sales showed good recovery, especially in our operations in North America, where we continue to increase our market share in the U. S. And Mexico.
In Coatings, the good performance was driven by the improvement in our operations in Argentina after bad months because of the pandemic as well as the advance of sales in other Latin American countries, both in industrial and automotive coatings. On Slide 6, you can see the evolution of EBITDA in 3Q 'twenty, where we showed the growth of 61.5% compared to 3Q 'nineteen. The EBITDA margin closed the quarter at 19.5%, an increase of 2 percentage points compared to 3Q 'nineteen. We highlight the margin gain with the rationalization of costs and expenses, improvement of the margin of long cycle operations in addition to the improvement of margin of some important operations abroad. It's important to highlight that this quarter, we had a nonrecurring impact of credits related to the IT law amounting to BRL 29,000,000.
Normalizing by this effect, the EBITDA margin of the quarter would have been 18.9%. Finally, on Slide 7, we show the evolution of investment in CapEx. In 3Q 'twenty, investments reached BRL 148,700,000, 49% of which are located in Brazil and 51% in foreign units, already showing investments going back to normal levels of the company after a moment of suspension due to uncertainties caused by the pandemic. It's always worth remembering that our production system is based on what we call modular expansion, which permits adjusting the CapEx to demand, thus maximizing the return on the capital invested. With that, I finish my part, and I give the floor back to Andre.
Thank you very much, Paolo. Before we move to the Q and A session, I would like to reinforce some recent achievements and to make a few comments in our about our prospects for the rest of 2020. As to our recent achievements, we have recently received the Global Supplier of the Year Award from Electrolux, one of the world's leading home appliance manufacturers. This award is a recognition for VEGS' commitment to always add value to our customers, especially in the aspects of innovation, quality, customer service and sustainability. We consider this proximity to customers one of VEG's great differentials and this recognition by such an important customer demonstrates that we are on the right track.
We continue with the development of our global water and sanitation businesses, supporting the needs of key players in this important market segment, generating new businesses for the company, such as the recent announcements of important projects being carried out in India and in the Middle East. As a prospect for the rest of the year, we can mention the following. Despite all difficulties and uncertainties imposed by the COVID-nineteen pandemic, the year of 2020 will be positive for WEG. During this period, we have taken all the necessary measures to prevent and protect our employees and to make the necessary adjustments with speed in our operations. The dynamics of our businesses always helped us deal with an atypical year like this, where the portfolio of long cycle products built throughout 2019 2020 continues to bring stability to our businesses.
While the demand for short cycle equipment seems to have already returned to normal levels in Brazil, Abroad is still in the process of recovery. Despite the improvement shown in the company's margins, we remind you that they may present volatilities due to the uncertainties present in the market and to the dynamics of WAGS businesses. It's important to highlight that we still have some specific impacts this quarter, such as reduction of work hours and expenses that will not be recurrent in an environment of normality. I close our presentation. And please, operator, we may move to our Q and A session.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are now going to start our Q and A session. Our first question comes from Mr. Alex Falcon from HSBC. Please, Mr. Falcon.
Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Andre, Paolo. I would like to hear from you a little bit about the prospects for 2021. Could you share with us a little bit about short cycle and long cycle? Do you see the same pace being kept next year?
But it sounds like short cycle when here it's still very warmed up. So I would like to hear how do you see orders being placed for long cycle? Falco, thank you for your question. And before answering it, I'm going to take the opportunity to clarify a few points about Paulo Palese leaving the company, especially because some rumors on the social networks. Number 1, Paulo decided to accept a proposition for his career, and he's going he will be leaving soon.
And he is the one who decided to leave the company. The other thing is that he has been with us for almost seven years, and the recognition for what he did at VEGDAS is what provided him this opportunity to advance in his career. We announced this to the market before we release the results because Paulo's resignation was formalized in the Board of Directors meeting, which took place on Vate. I would like to recognize and thank Paolo for his contributions to VEG along the time he worked with us, And I wish him all the success in his new challenges. And Paolo is here with us respecting all social distancing protocols because of the pandemic.
And at the end of the Q and A session, I'm going to give the floor to him if he wants to say something about this subject. So I took the opportunity to make this clarification, and now I'm going to answer your question more specifically in terms of prospects for 2021. When we deal with the moments of crisis and because of our business dynamics with short cycle and long cycle, we have different dynamics. Usually, short cycle is the first to suffer and also the first to recover, as we highlighted this before. Long cycle, in contrast, as we have deliveries that are more into the future, we only feel it takes longer for us to feel what happens.
Now in terms of short cycle, I also had the chance of talking to some of you. The impact of the pandemic had different behaviors depending on the geography and evolution of the pandemic. So it started in China. China was impacted in Q1 and then recovered in Q2, then into Europe and to the Americas. And this quarter, we reported that Brazil and frankly, all short cycle business lines had a pre pandemic recovery, and there are some highlights depending on the segment.
For example, commercial engines for appliances had a very sharp drop in the beginning of 2Q and then recovered with very good performance. But this behavior was in agreement with Brazil. There was a very good recovery for VEGS businesses in Brazil in Q3. And now in international markets, we were expecting recovery to be slightly slower, and it's gradual. We don't expect short cycles, especially in the EU and U.
S, will recover. This year, We're not expecting it to go back to pre pandemic level this year. Maybe in 2021, we will be able to do that. So the message here is for short cycle, we have a good development overall. Brazil doing very well.
It's good to remember that before the pandemic, we already expected a good performance for the Brazilian economy and a good year, and the pandemic got in the way. And in international market, there's a gradual recovery. When we see a long cycle, it's not different from what we reported in terms of this year's performance. What we said in our report and in our press release is that in industrial, electro and electronic equipment, we felt that in 3Q, there was a drop in the placement of orders. I think this is normal, but we felt much more a volatility in the placement of orders, and this represents very well what happened.
And for 2020, no surprises, this portfolio started robust, and we are going to deliver it in 2020. And what we see for 2021 is, well, we have a healthy portfolio for 2021 for a long cycle portfolio for transmission and distribution that was built along last year's auctions. And you should also be reminded the long cycle businesses of Vegas are not concentrated in Brazil. We have a very good performance in T and D North America, which led us to have an earlier expansion in our projects for North America. And in spite of the volatility that I mentioned that we might have to deal with in long cycle orders, You should always remember that as ZEG is exposed to many different segments, it's an advantage that we can modulate and adapt to what is happening in each segment and find opportunities for growth.
For example, in 2021, wind businesses are going to come back to our portfolio. We already have an order that we are going to deliver in 2021, 2020 2, so helping us to have a healthier portfolio. So what we see today is a scenario of recovery of short cycle, which is sharper in Brazil and more gradual overseas, an acceleration of industrial electric electronic equipment because the portfolio suffered from the volatility. And we need to see how this is going to behave before the end of the year, and we are going to report this to you. But for 2021, our portfolio remains healthy.
Great. And if I may, you have reached a level of ROIC this quarter that it might be the best ever. How sustainable is that? And how do you see the long term sustainable ROIC? So we expect to deliver consistent ROIC levels as we've been doing.
We do not talk about or give an outlook about our OIC prospects. In the last quarters, we have been trying to deliver growth in revenue margin expansion, and this benefits our OIC. We have had some specific actions such as reduction of work shifts, which will not have permanent effects. And because of that, we cannot say that we this trend of growth in revenue per margin expansion will continue. We cannot assure that it will continue as it happened this year, not to mention that it affects devaluation.
And we might give up some of that return to continue our long term growth strategy, gradually increasing investments that we had planned for this year. The epidemic made us hold back on that a little bit to promote the growth of our operations. Our focus, Falcon, is to be faithful to our mission of seeking continuing sustainable growth, and this includes delivering good operating margins and ROIC at differentiated levels as we have been doing. Our next question comes from Mr. Lucas Machiaoli from BTG Pactual.
Please, Mr. Machiaoli. Hello. Good morning, Andre and team. Thank you very much for your good performance this quarter.
Congratulations to the whole company. And in addition to asking the question, I would like to express my gratitude to Paolo for your work. Thank you very much and success on your new challenges. I have a short term and a long term question. In the short term, is this effective tax rate this year, which is slightly up?
It was around 10% 11% and now slightly above that this quarter. And I would like to understand what happened there. Well, it's the IT law, but please tell us how that how do you see that going into the future? And what is the best quote that we should use? Now in terms of long cycle, could you give us an idea of how much, more or less, will be the share of VEG in the sanitation CapEx in Brazil and overseas.
So maybe there is another type of equipment involvement. So it is the share in the CapEx. So in Brazil and in international markets, this type of investment so that I can calculate market potential? Thank you very much. This is Andres Salgueil answering your question about the effective tax rate.
And then Paolo will talk about sanitation. As you mentioned in your question, we had the reclassification of our credits in the of the IT law. So it went from the tax line and went to the EBITDA line, and the effective is higher this quarter. And if you adjust, you will see that we are in effective tax rate that is very similar to what we had before, which is a level that we believe that is normal. We don't see any indication that it will change in the short term.
So that's all that happened, the only different thing that happened this quarter. Lucas, good morning. Thank you for the message. So in terms of sanitation, we've been following up the news. It's been published in the last quarter and in April that there are prospects for business potential for future decades.
This amount was has been adjusted recently. But in any way, it's a quite relevant and significant investment. In the case of that year, the Water and Sanitation segment is one of our main market segments. And we talked a lot about this last time we met. So we've been supplying equipment for this industry for many years, not just engines and other automation equipment and even coatings for water and sewage pipes.
We should also highlight that 4.0 Industry Solutions, it cannot be applied in these projects too. And Lucas, it's difficult for us to quantify in terms of revenue because it depends very much on the features of each project. But overall, we can see that it is a quite addressable market by our businesses. And the range that we work with is 4% to 5% of the total CapEx of the projects. So we can work with these factors.
And I would like to highlight that each project may vary depending on size, complexity, product mix and also on our capacity to capture new potentials. And we believe that the approval of this new landmark was very important for Brazil and may bring new opportunities for VEG in future years. Thank you, Paolo. Just to clarify, in international market, could we use the same estimates, 2%, 4%, 5%? It's not too different, is it?
Yes, you can work with these numbers too, Lucas. These are specific projects, and you can work with them too. Our next question comes from Mr. Mizofaki from Bradesco BBI. Mr.
Mizofaki, please, you may ask your question. Hello. Good morning. Congratulations on your results. I have two questions to ask.
The first one, Andre, you mentioned your foreign operations, but when we get the Q3 results and saw the growth of revenue in Europe, it got my attention. Can you give us more details about the main drivers for this revenue growth in foreign currency in Europe? And question number 2, more related to electrical engine for home appliances. We see that once the government allowance that is being given to the people in Brazil, this might go down. What do you see the prospects in this area?
Hi, Victor. Good morning. This is Andres Salguello. I'll answer about Europe, and then I'll give the floor to my colleague to talk about appliances. As to Europe, yes, we have been having a good performance.
It's been so for a few quarters in spite of the pandemic. And in Europe, we see the concentration, especially related to oil and gas and water and sanitation is very strong. And then with the long cycle offers, it's good both in Brazil and in international markets because of large projects that we've been gaining and delivering this year. Our revenues in Europe is still good because of the long cycle dynamics. Short cycle in Europe more or less followed the trends that we observed for short cycle in other regions.
The only thing that didn't happen, as Andre mentioned, is that the speed fast as we've seen in Brazil. Yes, there is a recovery for short cycle since the beginning of the pandemic, but the main factor justifying this good performance and growth is the long cycle demand related to oil and gas projects and water and sanitation projects too. Victor, as to the performance and future prospects for appliance engines, First of all, it's a business that grew very fast in 3Q because we had a very sharp drop in the second quarter. So we need to take into consideration the behavior, the average of the year. 2nd, appliance engines is more limited in terms of our portfolio.
The visibility that we had today according to what we can see, it's doing very well. The other factor that should be considered at VEG will never stop developing new solutions. And we were very happy with of this global supplier award that we got from Electrolux demonstrating that the company, no matter how strong it is in Brazil, it has a global exposure. And yes, right now, we can practice lower revenue levels because of the emergency salary that Brazilians are getting. That's why we're having a good market performance.
But we are prepared to seek other opportunities with to seek other opportunities with the factories that we have in China, Argentina and other domestic engines, especially in the U. S. And in Mexico, that also have a good performance. Our next question comes from Mr. Caterina Bastelar from Banco DO Brasil.
Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on the results. Good luck on your new challenge, Mr. Polesi. I have two questions.
It's the first one is about the impact on long cycle businesses. So what do you see the behavior in the future? What we can expect? And you have already indicated that the impact would be felt as of 2021. What kind of behavior can we expect?
And what strategies have you implemented to mitigate the impact or to reduce the window of impact? And question number 2 is related to digital business initiatives. Can you give us a follow-up about your portfolio? How has this been contributing for you to build your product portfolio in innovation? And what results can we expect on that front?
Thank you very much. Hi, Catherine. I'm sorry. Your audio was not so clear to us, but let's see if I can answer your question. In term of long cycles, slightly more into the future, as I said before, we will be monitoring, But the company has been working on new fronts to capture all opportunities.
But one very important action that has been very important for VEGI that we recently announced is that we were able to be the supplier of high voltage engines in the largest irrigation project in the world that is being done today in India. And VEG is going to be the supplier of high voltage engines. And we are talking about big machines, 22 gigantic engines for this project, which shows that the company is seeking opportunities to reinforce the long cycle portfolio. Thinking more into the future in U. S.
Too and Mexico, Today, what we see that there are opportunities, in fact, and we will continue monitoring those opportunities. As to one of your questions, an update on VEG Digital, I had the chance of describing a little bit our strategy in our last conference call, what we call the short term strategy and the opportunity that we call Avec Digital Solutions and how much it can add to adjacent solutions, meaning it can complement the portfolios of products and solutions that are traditional to the company in trying to add value to this market. Also, I said last conference call that this process of company joining digital businesses is a journey that we are building step by step within WEG's work philosophy. After the acquisition of the 4 companies and our internal movements that we had already started at WEG today, What I can tell you, as we discussed last conference call, we already have 3 solutions that are ready and being offered to the market, one that manages in real time all the fleet in actuation of a company through automation drives, including even the pieces of equipment that are turned on. And then the other one, we call it a VEG Energy Management, which gives the opportunity of managing electric energy consumption in any kinds of production line, plants, machines.
And number 3 is Bragg Smart Machine, our platform based on cloud computing, which makes it possible for industry to monitor the performance and operations of its machines in real time, thereby optimizing productivity. Additionally, we're also working to integrate our recent acquisitions of artificial intelligence, such as MVs and Thermai, enabling us to add new layers of artificial intelligence and to offer new solutions to our customers. Without forgetting, other acquisitions that we made in 2019 that have been helping in our market share strategy. The first one in terms of intelligent energy management through telemetry solutions and production and floor management through the system of PPI. What I can tell you is that VEGS expertise applied to the development of more effective technologies for the growth of 4.0 industry.
So this is all I can tell you about what the company is doing in that area. Our next question comes from Mr. Rogerio Araujo from UBS. Please, Mr. Araujo.
Good morning, Andrea and Paolo. Congratulations on very strong results in every division and with all aspects. I have 3 very quick follow ups on the questions that have already been asked. Number 1 is the backlog of long cycle products. I would like to hear in the end of September and maybe in October too, How are sales going on?
Is the backlog stable? Has it been going down or up? And if you could tell us how much the long cycle represents in your revenues today, the share of long cycle in your total revenues. Rogerio, as I said, well, no, in industrialelectroelectronic equipment, we have been seeing some volatility recently, and we will need to monitor that until the end of this year. Our T and D business, as we said before, it's healthy this year, very robust for this year next year.
What may impact this is that there were 2 transmission distribution auctions scheduled for this year. There was one in June December. June, the one in June was canceled. There's another one in December. But this will only have an impact more in the future.
I think that we have good prospects for the end of the year auction. We have had some discussions with possible customers, and we will give you an update next time we meet. Rogerio, just complementing with the end of your question. In the quarter that finished, it was about long cycle was about 37 percent of ex total consolidated revenue. It's slightly below the 3rd quarter.
This is more related to short cycle. So we have better short cycle, but it's still a significant share of our businesses. Thank you very much, Andrea. The second follow-up, very quick, regards the market share that you think that you have in this niche of sanitation. So you said 4%, 5% of total CapEx.
What is today's market's VEGS market share in the segment? Well, Roger, it's difficult to tell you what our market share is in this segment. Our basis is VEGS market share in each one of the businesses that are related to this business. So industrial engines for the pumps, frequency, inverters for the pumping system and control systems. We have automation panels.
So it depends more or less on where the demand comes from, what is the product and what is WEGS market share in each one of these segments. It's always good to comment that actually considering the investment level and the size of the market, Maybe the players that will be part of this investment market are players that are foreign, and they may consider buying the equipment overseas too. So we need to observe everything. That's why it's very hard for us to give you a precise market share estimate for you. We need to wait for what happens.
We need to see who are the players that will be responsible for executing those projects, if product contracting will be in Brazil or in international market. And then we can have a more accurate outlook of the future market. So today, you can tell the market as it is. It's quite relevant, right? Yes.
If we take industrial engines, we have a significant market share. If sales are in Brazil, we may have an important opportunity in that area. The last follow-up regarding tax rate. There is a discussion for the Brazilian government to adapt to the rules of OECD. Have you considered if that is accepted, if it would affect your transfer price model, if it can affect the tax rate or not?
Well, Rogerio, we have conducted some studies. It wouldn't have a significant impact. Today, we have our rules that is determined by the Brazilian government. But we don't expect it to be very relevant. And if it happens, it would not take place in the short term.
Thank you very much. Paulo, thank you very much for your contribution along all these years and good luck in your new challenges. Thank you, Rogerio. Our next question comes from Mr. Marcelo Mora from JPMorgan.
Please, Mr. Mora. Good morning. I have two questions. Number 1, could you comment on margins?
How much of that is structural? And how much that is something that is occasional? It's like a one off. It won't repeat again. But there is an impact that economists think that things will remain at these levels.
And in terms of the FX rate in Brazil and the ratio, BRL and dollar, So what do you see? Is there any relevant impact for us to see in the future of COVID measures that are impacting? And also your international market share, we imagine that with a weaker BRL, strengthen some product lines and make it more interesting to be purchased internationally. In terms of prices of raw materials, you have an impact, but what is exported from Brazil with the current FX rate that are benefits, and it's easy to sell our products in international market. So let's talk a little bit about margins in the quarter and improvement in margins.
Number 1, all factors that have contributed for margins in Q2 have continued, such as, for example, a better margin in long cycle operations with the growth in participation, significant in the consolidated numbers where the demand for this product along this year, we can mention a few highlights. So the highlight businesses that have contributed to demand such as, for example, in the area of T and D with transformers and substations being delivered to projects related to the auctions here in Brazil. And the growing demand for these demands in renewable power plants, such as wind and solar in Brazil and in North America, where VEG is a leader in the supply of transformers and distribution for renewable power. Engines and automation have also contributed with a growing demand in this segment with automation panels for long term projects in important segments in manufacturing industry, as we highlighted, pulp and paper mining, agro and oil and gas have also contributed. Another point, important operations internationally such as industrial engines in China and transformers in U.
S. Have been showing a continuing improvement in margins over the past few quarters. And undoubtedly making operational adjustments before because of the pandemic due to the reduction of expenses with travel and reduction of work shifts, this has an impact in short cycle businesses in these two quarters. We mustn't forget the impact of the strong FX rate devaluation this year in Brazil. So the relationship between FX rate and margin is strong.
But with a short FX rate devaluation in Brazil, with more businesses that have more exposure in the international market have a benefit. I mean, there is initial benefit, and then gradually, they normalize. Along the quarter, we saw an improvement in short cycle in the end of operational limitations imposed by the pandemic in our main operations. And this has improved significantly. The operations in our manufacturing units also contributing to margins.
Mata, good morning. This is Plessy speaking. So about international market share and also making a correlation with FX rates that we've been having recently in Brazil. Your question is very opportune because there are a few points for us to clarify. VEG has a position of leadership and market share leadership in the Americas And it has a smaller market share in other continents.
So we've been gaining market gradually. And this word gradually is important because in spite of a favorable FX rate, the decisions of our customers is not something that takes place in the short term. Customers to decide a product that is so relevant as our products and our competitors too, it's longer. It takes only a series of investments before you reach and meet all their requirements. And this period, the FX rate varies many times, both in our favor or against us.
But the most important thing is to highlight that the favorable FX rate helps us to expand our share in the businesses where we export, and we are going to make the most of this time to gain new customers and expedite slightly and gain market share. But on the other side, it also affects cost. Our cost metrics is very much related to metal items or supplies that is very much pegged by the dollar. So we believe that it is positive for us to gain market share. But in this short period of time, we can't yet see any gains.
We are just monitoring. We need time before we see any impact. Our next question comes from Mr. Pedro Bresser from Livanti Investimentos. Please, Mr.
Bresser. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on your results. My question regards your capital structure. You have BRL 2,200,000,000 in terms of net cash.
What do you think into the future in terms of capital structure? And do you see any relevant acquisition in the near future? Or is strategy going to be small strategies as you've been doing? So could you give us some more color in terms of your capital structure, please? Hello, Pedro.
Good morning. So I'll be talking about cash and everything else. I'm going to start with the answer and saying that the way VEG sees its capital structure, actually, we're focused very much on what we call the company's competitive advantage, which is our financial flexibility. It's something that we don't give up. And the flexibility is very important to us.
It has demonstrated to be very important along Bags' history for us to keep our focus on our strategy and in the long term. I'm going to give you a few examples. So you asked your question, first, M and A activities. We are going to keep our M and A plans. We're still focusing on that.
Whenever any opportunity for M and A arises, whether it's small, medium or large sized opportunity. We always try to make the most of it, to leverage it, and we want to focus on the transaction. This is very positive in the countless operations that the bank has conducted over the years. It also allows us to keep our focus on our fixed assets, which is very important. As you know, the investments we made in Mexico and China, it gives us advantages to continue operational improvements to our high productivity and the cash that we use, and we'll continue using it for that.
And Veng has a history of investing about 3% of it. And the company has a very healthy cash. All of this to say that we have no plans to change the company's capital structure because we focus very much on the growth opportunities, and we are going to keep our financial health as our priority. Our next question comes from Mr. Alex Falcon from HSBC.
Please Mr. Falcon. Thank you for the follow-up. I would just like to understand your solar panel cycle. I'm looking at the exports and the COMEX website.
And you have had a significant comeback or recovery. You almost doubled your exports in September as compared to July. How long does it take to sell the solar panels? And how long does it take until we see it converting into revenue? The product cycle, once it's been ordered, how long does it take?
So you buy, it goes into the kit and until it effectively turns into revenue. Falcone, this is Andres Salgueiro. Well, actually, the indicator that you are looking at is the indicator of imports of solar panels. And there's a timing for clearance of the merchandise. It gets to our distribution center, and then we sell.
We have an inventory in distribution center and then there's a turnover. What we've been measuring is how long it takes for us between the order is placed and how long it takes for us to deliver this to the customer. So it's hard for us to tell. Once the panel arrives in Brazil until it turns into revenue, we can tell how long it takes. It depends very much on inventory and delivery times for each one of the players.
In our case, I could tell you that the time is about 1 month, maybe a little bit longer, But it may vary depending on the player in the market. And so once this goes into your DC, it doesn't take another month. So it's 1 or 2 months between it gets to the country and it turns into revenue, right? Pretty reasonable, right? Yes, more or less that.
Because there is a turnover in the DC inventory. Rush because of the possibility of changes in law and everybody wants to install precisely because from what we've been reading, there might be a possibility that it would go back and you wouldn't pay for the use of the infrastructure. Do you see that? Yes, it helps. I think especially for a specific type of project, the middle sized projects where people do the project to sell energy, Yes, there has been a large demand.
This is one of the things that is helping. We think that the solar generation market makes sense in Brazil as a possible change in regulation. So this is a market that will continue demanding in the medium and long term. And as we always say, Brazil has good conditions of the sun. Energy prices are high.
And it really makes sense when we invest in solar generation. The change in regulation may reduce the investment base slightly in the industry when it happens, but it's not something that will impact the growth trend in the segment. And it's difficult to estimate how much and when the regulation change will take place. And while we wait, we have good growth prospects. After the change, there may be a slowdown, but the market will continue developing, but just at a lower pace.
We are now ending our Q and A session. I would like to give the floor to Mr. Andre Rodriguez for his final remarks. Mr. Rodriguez, please?
So before my final Thank you, Andre, for the opportunity of saying goodbye to so many colleagues, analysts and investors with whom I had the satisfaction of dealing within almost 7 years in VEG. I always wanted went after my objectives. One of them was to seek a leadership position even if it's another company. It was a very difficult decision to make. It's very hard for me to talk about VEG.
I made many friends. I learned to value cultural aspects and respect to people here. I'm really proud of having been part of the big trajectory of VEG teamwork that we do in Investor Relations, always with fast and good quality services to you that helps so much the company. Lastly, I would like to thank your partnership, Andre Rodriguez, Andres Agero And special thanks to the Investor Relations team that is not here in the team, Eduardo, Andress, Rafael and especially, Vioso Vazco. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Paolo. And before we close, I would like to remind you that on November 12, we are going to have our VAC day this year because of the limitations imposed by the pandemic in a smaller virtual format. And in this meeting, we are going to give you updates about the future prospects of the company and what we've been doing. Thank you all very much, and see you on November 12 for the 2020 ZEG Day. Thank you very much.
The conference call of ZEgg has now ended. Thank you very much for your participation. Have a very good day. Thank you.