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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 30, 2025

Operator

Morning, welcome to WEG's Earning Conference Call for the Q1 of 2025. I would like to highlight that simultaneous translation is available on the platform, on the interpretation button via the globe icon at the bottom of the screen. Please be advised that we are streaming this conference call, and upon its conclusion, the audio will be available at our IR website. During the company's presentation, all participants will have their microphones disabled. After that, we'll start the Q&A session.

To ask questions, click the raise hand icon at the bottom of the screen to join the queue. When you are announced, a prompt to activate your microphone will appear on the screen, and you will activate your microphone to ask questions, If you have more than one question, we recommend that you ask them all at once.

If we do not have time to answer all questions live, feel free to send your question to our email, ri@weg.net, which will be answered after the end of the conference. We emphasize that any forecasts contained in this document or any statements that may be made during this conference call regarding future events, the business outlook, operational and financial projections, and targets, and WEG's future growth potential are merely beliefs and expectations of WEG's management based on currently available information.

These statements involve risks and uncertainties and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions, and other operating factors may affect WEG's future performance and lead to results that differ significantly from those expressed in such forward-looking statements.

With us in Jaraguá do Sul are André Luiz Rodrigues, Administrative and Financial Superintendent; André Menegueti Salgueiro, Finance and Investor Relations Officer; and Felipe Hoffmann , Investor Relations Manager. Mr. Rodrigues, you may proceed.

André Luiz Rodrigues
Chief Administrative and Financial Officer, WEG

Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be once again for WEG's earning conference call. We start with the highlights of the quarter on slide three, in which the net operating revenue grew 25% by 5% compared to the Q1 of 2024.

In Brazil, the energy generation, transmission, and distribution area was the highlight of growth, with the concentration of centralized solar generation businesses and the continuity of deliveries of transmission and distribution projects. In the foreign market, we also highlight the GTD business. We presented another quarter with good performance, especially the T&D business in North America.

In the industrial segment, we observed continued demand for our products and services in important segments such as oil and gas and mining, in addition to the positive contribution of business acquired in 2024 from brands Marathon, Rotor, and Cemp, and Volt Electric Motor.

The EBITDA was BRL 2.2 billion, a growth of 22.8% compared to the Q1 of 2024. The EBITDA margin ended the quarter at 21.6%, a reduction of 0.4 percentage points compared to the same period of last year. Throughout the presentation, André Salgueiro will give more details about these points. ROIC, one of our main financial indicators, remained at a high level of 33.2%, as we can see in more detail on the next slide.

Even at a high level due to revenue and maintenance of operating margins healthy during the period, we presented a reduction in the quarter mainly due to the fact that the ROIC in the Q1 of 2024 was positively impacted by the recognition of non-recurring tax incentives related to the establishment of a new subsidiary in Switzerland and by the growth of invested capital due to the investments in fixed and intangible assets, in addition to the acquisition of Marathon's businesses, I will now give the floor to André Salgueiro to continue.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

Thank you, André. Good morning, everyone o n slide five, we present the evolution of revenue from business areas. In Brazil, we observed healthy industry activity with maintenance and demand for short-cycle equipment, such as low-voltage electric motors and serial automation products, despite the fluctuation in deliveries of long-cycle equipment projects, such as medium-voltage electric motors and automation panels.

In GTD, the highlight was the delivery of centralized solar generation projects in a movement that more than offset the decrease in revenue from new wind turbines. Good performance also in the T&D business, driven mainly by deliveries of large transformers and substations linked to transmission projects and distribution networks.

In commercial motors and appliances, sales volumes showed growth compared to the same period of the previous year, with good performance from relevant segments such as air conditioning, civil construction, and compressor manufacturers. In paints and varnishes, demand was positive, with emphasis on the water and sanitation and agricultural implement segments. In the foreign market, highlighting the oil and gas and mining industrial segments, in addition to the positive contribution of Marathon, Semp, Rotor, and Volt Electric Motor businesses to revenue growth in the quarter.

For long-cycle equipment, such as high-voltage motors and automation systems, we observed the construction of a healthy order book for the coming quarters, despite fluctuations in the volume of project deliveries in the quarter. In the GTD area, which continues to perform well, we continue to take advantage of the opportunities present in the T&D market in North America, together with good demand in Marathon's generator business.

In commercial and appliances motors, we observed growth in demand, with emphasis on operations in China and North America, in addition to the contribution of Volt Electric Motor business, In paints and varnishes, despite the drop in sales in South America, you observe revenue growth in other regions, with emphasis on the good result of the operation in Mexico.

Slide six shows the evolution of EBITDA, which showed growth of 22.8%, while the EBITDA margin ended the quarter at 21.6%, showing a slight adjustment when compared to the same period of the previous year, mainly reflecting the change in the product mix, especially greater relevance of centralized solar generation business. It's important to highlight that the solar generation business, due to the deliveries of centralized generation projects, more than doubled compared to the Q1 of 2024.

This movement was important for revenue growth but had a negative impact on the consolidated margin for the quarter. The other businesses together continue to have healthy margins and are above the company's historical averages. Finally, on slide seven, we show the evolution of our investments, which totaled BRL 621 million, 56% in Brazil and 44% abroad.

In Brazil, we continue to modernize and expand the production capacity of transformers at Blumenau units, in addition to increasing the production capacity of industrial motors in Jaraguá do Sul. Abroad, we continue to invest in Mexico and Colombia, with emphasis on progress in the construction of new transformer factories. With that, I finish my part and give the floor back to André.

André Luiz Rodrigues
Chief Administrative and Financial Officer, WEG

Thank you, Salgueiro. On slide eight, and before we move on to the Q&A session, I would like to highlight that in February, we announced the completion of the acquisition of REIVAX, a Brazilian company with global operations already consolidated in the power generation control systems market. Finally, I would like to talk about the outlook for the rest of the year.

We are confident in our strategy of diversifying products and solutions and global presence, which allows us to take advantage of opportunities in the various markets where we operate and mitigate risks in times of market fluctuation. We continue with healthy operation dynamics. Our industrial strategy and constant search for operation efficiency should continue to support good operating margins and return on invested capital.

We continue to benefit from structurally favorable conditions, especially those linked to the energy transition, which should continue to support revenue growth throughout the year. It is always important to remain attentive to the global macroeconomic scenario and possible volatility in the markets where we operate. This ends our presentation, and we can proceed to the Q&A session.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now start the Q&A session. If you want to ask questions, click the raise hand icon on the bottom of your screen to join the queue w hen you are announced, a prompt to activate your microphone will appear on the screen, and you must activate your microphone to ask questions w e kindly request that questions be asked at once. Our first question comes from Milton, from BTG Pactual. Your audio has been enabled. Go ahead.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Thank you for the call. Two topics I would like to hear to clarify our questions. If you could give us, André, if you could give us a map on your geography distribution in the world now with tariffs, and that may force you to relocate capacities.

I am talking mainly about Brazil, Mexico, and the US, given these three sources of supply within WEG. The second question is more specific about SG&A. It has strong growth in this quarter based on Marathon. Just to shed some light, what would be the reason, structural reason, let's say, normalized for SG&A, the ratio for SG&A to revenues, just for us to have an idea? Thank you.

André Luiz Rodrigues
Chief Administrative and Financial Officer, WEG

Hi, Lucas. This is André Rodrigues speaking, Thank you for the question f irst about geography, as you put very well, our three main industrial sites, Brazil, Mexico, and China, to meet specific regions. After all these geopolitical discussions on tariffs, right now, WEG has not changed anything in its strategic plan that involves investments in Mexico, more capacity in transformers, motors, new businesses such as industrial paints, We have not changed a thing because we consider that we have a very well-distributed industrial footprint ready to meet the needs of our customers in several geographies.

There are still many uncertainties regarding tariffs and volatility of industrial capacities. We did not have the, we did not need to make any changes so far. Brazil, South America, and Europe. Of course, Brazil also supplies to North America. We also have our assets in China, India, and Asia focused on domestic markets and in the region w e consider ourselves to be very well positioned in this moment of uncertainty.

So far, WEG has not changed anything in the strategic plan because we always think about the long term. As for SG&A, the main reason we had was an increase in expenses to consolidate the business of Marathon, Rotor, Semp, and that was not present in Volt. That was not present in the last quarter, as well as actual costs. There was an increase in international freight costs.

As Salgueiro mentioned about the dynamic of the business, there was an important moment of sale of solar complexes in this Q1. The distribution of solar panels requires freight costs, and that adds to that. It is also important when we compare the values of the Q1 of this year with last year, we have the depreciation of real that plays a role in that as well.

Speaker 9

Thank you, André. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 13

Obrigado. Nossa próxima pergunta vem de Lucas Laghi, XP.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Lucas Laghi from XP.

Lucas Laghi
Equity Research VP, XP

Good morning. Thank you for the question. I have two questions. One is about profitability and trying to explore a bit better the margin issue in this Q1, especially when we look at the breakdown of costs between labor and raw material.

If we compare the fourth quarter of 2024, there was a significant effect of a worsening of EBITDA margin quarter on quarter due to labor costs and an improvement due to raw material. I would like to understand the increased importance in labor line that had an effect in profitability, as well as raw material in the context of product mix may be related to that. If you could give more details about labor, that would be nice.

The second question is also related to uncertainties worldwide. We notice a concern of investors regarding the risks of macroeconomic deceleration and the geopolitical risks. It seems that your global partners have not felt the impacts of that yet. How do you see at the end the perception of customers regarding appetite for new investments during the month of April?

Have you noticed a slowdown in terms of new orders coming? Have you talked to customers? Do they have a concern regarding appetite for CapEx and new investments forward that could impact your orders, especially on a short cycle? Trying to understand this scenario of uncertainty that makes it hard to understand the demand for the future, future demand. Major things are raw material and orders t hank you.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

This is Salgueiro speaking. Thank you for the question. Something a bit more specific about profitability. As we said during the presentation, there was a mixed effect. That was the main effect during the quarter. Just for you to understand, solar, when compared to the Q1 of last year, it's more than doubled in terms of revenue. It also had an important growth when compared to the fourth quarter of last year. This is the main effect.

There is a different breakdown in every business in terms of labor, materials. It depends on the composition and the breakdown of each product. As for labor specifically, comparing the Q1 to the fourth quarter of last year is that usually in Brazil, we have wage increases that happen every year in the Q1. If you are comparing to the fourth quarter, that is the effect.

This is something that happens regularly. When we look at the consolidated profitability, it is in fact a bit lower than we delivered last year when compared to the fourth quarter as well, mainly due to the effect in the mix, especially due to solar business. There is also an effect in the cost of raw material because there is an effect of the price of copper in dollars year on year, and then the exchange rate effect and other SG&A issues and other impacts due to the consolidation of Marathon, as André explained in the first question.

Lucas, speaking about the second question, a possible slowdown of the macroeconomic economy all over the world, it's a bit too early to say something to be certain about that. Let's start with the things that continue positive, which is the demand for long-cycle equipment, especially T&D in Brazil and abroad. Also in construction, we're trying to build a healthy portfolio of generators. We had a chance to discuss that Marathon is in a business area that has a very high demand.

If we look at what GTD accounted for in the quarter, 44% of revenue as a whole, even though we do not have a portfolio for wind because it was a centralized energy, it was more concentrated, as we already mentioned in the last quarter i n this first half, there is an important volume of our revenues with a portfolio that is pretty much guaranteed for the year.

Another business of short cycle in which we have a visibility that is two or three quarters into the future, There was a certain accommodation in the Q1, but the new orders during this Q1 came in in a positive way despite all the uncertainties. We still expect to have another year of two-digit growth. Our expectation has not changed.

As of May this year, we'll no longer have the comparative effect of the consolidation of Marathon, Cemp, and Rotor because as of May next year, this growth will be lower, but we still expect a two-digit growth rate for this year.

Lucas Laghi
Equity Research VP, XP

That has not changed. Okay, thank you. Good. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rogério Araújo from Bank of America.

Rogério Araújo
Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Olá, André Salgueiro. Hello, André Salgueiro. Thank you for the opportunity. I have two questions. First, regarding the organic revenue in the segment of electric and electronic segment abroad. We saw a drop and a drop in the last quarter. What do you attribute this fluctuation to? In the last quarter, elections played a role. What should we expect for the next quarters in this segment? You mentioned long cycle with less deliveries, but an increase in the backlog.

Should we see an improvement in organic revenue as of the Q2? Could you shed some light on that, please? The second question is about current bottleneck in capacity. Where are you operating at full capacity? What are the next steps, the next openings of growth and expansion in which segments? What's the timing? I know you're investing, but what's the timing so that we can understand where we may have production leaps for 2025, 2026, and 2027? Thank you.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

Good morning, Rogério t his is Salgueiro speaking t hank you for your questions. Regarding the foreign market, industrial electric and electronic equipment, with the acquisitions of Marathon, excluding Marathon, and exchange rate revenue was slightly below the Q1 of last year.

The effect was explained in the release, which was a lower concentration of deliveries of long-cycle projects, although the dynamics is positive for the quarter. The deliveries were lower than last year. In the short cycle, the demand is not very high. In the United States, there was a continuity of this effect that you said last year demand was down due to elections and that continued.

Although orders started coming better in this Q1, the performance of revenue in the Q1 was still not positive. There is also the situation of Europe mainly. The short cycle demand in Europe, as we have said for some time, is not positive. There are some fluctuations in important markets, mainly Germany, that has suffered with the macroeconomic conditions, and we saw revenue lower in this quarter.

Looking forward, we may say that in North America, we've seen better dynamics of entry, new orders coming that should improve from now on. Of course, there are the impacts of tariffs, as André said. It's very hard to see what will happen now. We have to monitor that on a monthly basis to see how that would impact the demand in the future. There is another region that's showing positive demand signs, which is Asia-Pacific.

It's had a positive performance in recent months and shows growth potential for the future. In Europe, we see more orders, but that's one of the regions that will probably take longer to grow. Let's wait and see how this will unfold. As for the second question, we have a capital budget approved for the year of BRL 2.6 billion, which is an important CapEx for this year.

Is right to say that a large amount of that is related to T&D investments that we have announced. We highlighted that in WEG Day last year to grow the plants of Blumenau and Gravataí, mainly here in Brazil, building a greenfield plant in Colombia, building a new plant in Mexico, and some investments to increase capacity in the United States.

I would say that this is where we are running with full capacity here. We depend on new investments to expand capacity, given that the market is high. We have been running at a good capacity, but we do not have a pressure as in T&D. There are a lot of investments being announced in Brazil in verticalization for motors and transformers, investments in foundry in Guaramirim, in the wire factory in Itajaí. There are some important investments in automation in Brazil, in Itajaí.

That is basically that. As for capacity, like I said, T&D is running at full capacity, and we depend on investments to add more capacity. The other businesses are running at high capacity rates. Marathon has a capacity as announced at the acquisition moment.

Rogério Araújo
Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you, Salgueiro. Could you give us an estimate for this increase in capacity in Beijing, Gravataí, Colombia, and Mexico?

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

Most of it will be operational at the end of next year. It is gradual because of investments we announced in the back. Something is becoming operational now, but it is not relevant. The most important greenfield in Mexico, the new plant in Colombia, and increased capacity in Beijing will be more concentrated in the end of next year and beginning of 2027.

Rogério Araújo
Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you that is very clear.

Operator

Excuse me, our next question comes from João. Bom dia. From Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 10

Thank you. I have two questions. One is a follow-up regarding solar generation. You mentioned that there was an acceleration when comparing the quarters. I would like to understand what would be the rhythm of deliveries until the end of the year.

Should it remain stable or accelerate until the end of the year? The second question is about your suppliers. We hear that the supply chain as a whole is very tight. How has that affected you? Have you had any limitations on orders? What about prices? Because you mentioned that copper was a margin detractor in the Q1. Is there any reason related to suppliers that may have played a role in that? Thank you.

Marcelo Motta
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Hello, João Frizo . This is Salgueiro speaking. I'll answer the solar question, and then André will talk about suppliers. As for solar, this has been an important and strong quarter. It more than doubled when compared to the Q1 of last year.

There is a component of deliveries of centralized generation projects that we have mentioned already, and with a concentration of deliveries of such projects in the Q1 and something to be delivered in the Q2 of this year. It's important to comment that with the current portfolio, we have some time for new projects to come for the second half of the year. We expect a deceleration of revenue for solar in the second half of the year. It's running at a high level now.

The GT is growing. GC has grown. With the visibility of the portfolio we have today, that should go down for the second half of the year, implying a slightly lower revenue from solar in the second half of 2025 as compared to the first half. Hello, João. As for supply chain, the fact that we have a global distribution of suppliers, that's very helpful because we can look for diversified suppliers in every geography we operate in.

We had a chance to comment on the last quarter that our main concern back then was anything related to the supply chain of transformers. All the companies are investing in new capacity, as we already detailed, and it's important that suppliers of components follow the same trend. Back then, we've mentioned that that might be the highest risk for WEG in terms of supply chain.

So far, we have tried to develop long-term contracts, and we have not felt any downturns regarding that. Our supply chain continues to work regularly as usual, meeting our demand, but this is something we need to monitor in order to prevent any problems in the future.

Speaker 10

Okay, thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Alberto Valério from UBS.

Alberto Valerio
Associate Director, LatAm Transportation Equity Research Associate, UBS

Bom dia, Salgueiro e Rodrigues. Good morning, Salgueiro and Rodrigues. Thank you for the question i have two quick questions. I would like to know about demand elasticity in the United States. Probably a price transfer has already started there. How much stays with the companies? How much is transferred to customers? The second question, although these are less core regions for you, we noticed lower or weaker results for Africa, South America, and Asia. In South America, you have plants in Colombia, Argentina. Is that only applies to Colombia? It's more about panels or transformers too? Thank you.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

Hello, Alberto. This is Salgueiro speaking t hank you for the questions. Commenting on demand elasticity in the United States, especially due to tariffs and pricing issues in the market, it's a bit too early for that. What we can see, and André commented in his previous answers, is that we did have a quarter. If we separate short cycle, there was some oscillation and fluctuation in demand, but new orders coming that signal an improvement looking forward.

The long cycle part, especially T&D market, that performed very well, in which we have a very robust portfolio and will continue to perform well in coming quarters with no concerns about slowdown. New capacities can be added in Mexico and also in the US. We should continue to grow this business. In order to make some more real comment about tariffs, we need to wait how the market will accommodate in coming quarters. As for other geographies, there were some impacts in South America, especially due to Argentina. The dynamic in Argentina is slightly below what it was last year.

They are in a macroeconomic recovery process, but the market still is not responding. In the industrial sector, we see fluctuations in revenue. There was a fluctuation of deliveries of projects in Colombia. Because of these two things, the dynamics of South America were slightly below. Deliveries of projects also were a bit down in Africa, which impacted the performance in Africa, especially South Africa. Thank you. Obrigado. Temos uma pergunta de Marcelo Mota.

Operator

Thank you w e have a question from Marcelo Motta from JPMorgan.

Marcelo Motta
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Good morning. Two questions. The first one, could you comment on how much lower this margin of solar is compared to the average for the company?

We're trying to make these calculations, but it would be nice to have some more detail to understand the normalized margin when solar is closer to the average. The second question, I would like to understand if there's any deficit between the sales price and raw material price. You commented on copper. There is a pass-through s ometimes it's a time issue.

I would like to understand if this gap is much higher than historical levels or close to that, and then wouldn't have an impact on margin. Just to understand these two points so that we can have an idea of margin to the rest of the year, for the rest of the year.

André Luiz Rodrigues
Chief Administrative and Financial Officer, WEG

This is Hello, thank you for the question, Solar business has lower margins compared to the rest of the company. In solar, we have distributed generation and centralized distribution. Centralized distribution tends to be lower than distributed generation. As it happened in the last quarter of last year, there was the same impact with a significant volume in centralized distribution generation, which impacted the margin in the fourth quarter.

As we have said in the last quarter call, Salgueiro mentioned in this presentation that the margin of solar, rather not the margin, but the strong concentration of the business in solar caused the revenues to more than double in this quarter when compared to the same period of last year. We may say that if we have had a volume in solar close to the Q1 of last year, margins would have been higher than in the last quarter of 2024 and Q1 of 2024 as well.

That is, we always reinforce that among quarters, there may be variations in margin depending on the mix of products sold. Once again, this is what happened in this quarter. The other businesses of WEG remain with margins according to the expected trends, and Marathon businesses are still to be—we have to work on them. Integration is going according to our expectations. We're not delayed at all as compared to our plans, but there may be fluctuations on a quarterly basis.

I think that the second part of the question, Motta, regarding the gap of raw material, if I understand it correctly, actually we try to have some hedge, especially for copper. The rest, when it's a long cycle, we update project by project. In a short cycle, as there is a need, we recalculate the prices.

As it's important to mention, regarding the Q1 of the year, we included the foreign exchange effect in the margin because in Brazil, in the fourth quarter of last year, the exchange rate fluctuated a lot. A lot was internalized in terms of raw material at a very high exchange rate, and that was used during the quarter.

In the middle to long term, exchange rates tend to be normalized in terms of profitability in the margin, but we have some fluctuations in the short run, and that happened in the Q1. A strong depreciation of real in the end of last year impacted our costs in Brazil in this Q1 of 2025. That's very clear. Thank you. Obrigado.

Marcelo Motta
Research Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question will be in English. James Pace from Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 12

Yes, thank you for taking my question. We're doing like a back-of-the-envelope calculation to see how much your external revenues grew, excluding Marathon. You were getting to a number of around 2% year over year, which I think is more or less in line with the number you disclosed of external revenues increasing, excluding the FX impact and consolidation impact of 3.6%. Looking at that number, how much do you expect to grow for the full year?

Secondly, just to follow up on your production base in North America and the materials that you—the equipment that you produce in Mexico and export to the US—just wondering, is all of that equipment USMCA compliant? In other words, do you pay tariffs on those products or not? Thank you.

Speaker 13

Jens, André Salgueiro aqui.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

This is André Salgueiro. I'll answer in Portuguese, but thank you for the questions. As for the revenue, the number that you mentioned is pretty much aligned. As for the expected growth forward, we do not give guidance for growth for the year, so we will limit our comments here a bit, which will be limited to the comments made by André in previous answers, that we continue with the expectation of growing at a two-digit rate.

That includes everything, including Forex, that is acquisitions that are part of the historical growth process of the company. There is a more relevant effect of consolidation of acquisitions until April because as of May, we will have the same base, especially Marathon, that we started consolidating May last year, This benefit that we see now from consolidation will decrease.

There will still be something due to the bridge that of REVOX that came into Brazil more recently, but the largest effect, which is the consolidation of Marathon, would only be until April. As for what we produce here to be exported to the U.S., as we mentioned in the last conference call, everything we sell in the U.S., we produce one-third in the U.S., one-third in Mexico, and one-third outside the region, especially in Brazil. Everything we produce in Mexico and sell to the U.S. is compliant with USMCA, so we comply with our requirements, and there is no tariff on those products.

Speaker 13

Com licença. Nossa próxima pergunta de.

Operator

Excuse me, our next question comes from André Mazini from Citi. Oi, time, obrigado pelo call. Duas perguntas também.

André Mazini
Managing Director, Citi

Hello, I have two questions t hank you. It's about the capacity reserve for battery systems. Today, in a conference call from an energy transmission company, they say that the auction will only be in 2026. What is your opinion about that? Will the auctions be this year? Maybe in the size of the auction, we have seen some news and consulting companies saying that it would be around 300 mega, and the total amount of BRL 3.5 billion. Does this ballpark figure make sense in terms of size?

The second question is about the transformers market in the U.S. and competition. We have seen news about Hyundai Electric investing to increase its capacity in the plant in Alabama. The question is, all this news about increasing investments of Hyundai, Siemens, Hitachi, is that already in operation, or are they more for 2026 and 2027? Thank you.

André Menegueti Salgueiro
Finance and Investor Relations Officer, WEG

Good morning, Mazini t hank you for the question. This is Salgueiro speaking. As for the auction, we've been keeping track of all discussions. There is an expectation that the auction will happen. We see that the government is willing to try to have the auction still this year, but we've also seen more recent news that it may be postponed to next year.

We have to keep track of that to see when the date will be defined. We've seen that we've said that the market of energy storage is developing in Brazil, but although slowly, we started with some P&D projects, research and development projects by utility companies. Now we're starting to have demand from industrial clients and other types of clients, but we do believe that auctions could be a determining factor to unlock high volumes to help this market develop in Brazil in coming years.

We have to keep a close eye on that to see when that will happen. Since we do not have the exact date, commenting on size and prices is a bit premature. Let's wait for the auction to be defined, and then we will talk to you about that later.

Mazini, regarding T&D capacity, shortly after WEG started to increase its capacity, our competitors followed the same trend because demand is very high, and everybody that is operating in the U.S. market or even in Brazil, in Latin America, companies are announcing an increase in capacity.

There is no competitor that will launch a capacity differently from ours in the same time period. Everybody will do that in 2027 or later on, We are not aware of any other company starting increased capacity shorter than that or earlier than that. There is an important phase of labor training, That's why the increase in capacity has to come a bit later t hat's why all the companies are announcing that for 2027 or later on.

André Mazini
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Pedro from Itaú BBA. Pedro Schneider, por favor, pode prosseguir. Pedro Schneider, you may continue. Bom dia, pessoal. Obrigado por pegar a nossa pergunta.

Speaker 11

Good morning t hank you for taking my two questions. First, I would like to explore, when we compare quarter-on-quarter revenues, there's been an improvement, especially in dollars. How is the repositioning going on in terms of sales and prices?

You've had two price adjustments, and that has been done. The second, I would like you to talk more about copper. We've seen many news about advanced purchases, and does that change anything in terms of working capital? Does it make sense for you to build stocks in copper? Also, due to timing for price adjustments, thank you.

Operator

Pessoal, não sei se vocês estão escutando a gente, mas... I don't know if you hear us, but... Aí, caso estejam escutando, para a gente entender o que aconteceu. Let's give us a few seconds so we can figure out what happened. Por favor, peço para aguardarem. Please hold while we solve a technical problem. Nossa próxima pergunta vem de Antônio Setti. Our next question comes from Antônio Setti from SAFRA. Prosseguir. Senhor Antônio Setti, seu áudio.

Mr. Setti, your microphone is enabled. Please ask your question. A sessão de perguntas e respostas. The Q&A session has now ended. I remind you that if you have any further questions, please feel free to send questions to our email, ri@weg.net. I would like to turn the floor over to André Rodrigues for his final remarks. Olá, gostaria de agradecer. Hello.

André Luiz Rodrigues
Chief Administrative and Financial Officer, WEG

I would like to thank you once more for being here and have an excellent day. A conferência da WEG.

Operator

The conference call of WEG has ended. We thank you all for attending and have an excellent day.

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