Good morning, and welcome to WEG's Conference Call on the Results for the Second Quarter 2021. We would like to inform you that we are broadcasting this conference call accompanied by the slides on our Investor Relations website atri.wek.net. And after its conclusion, the audio file will be available on our our website. If you need support during the conference call, please request assistance from an operator by typing star 0. Any estimates contained in this document or any forward looking statements that may be made during this conference call about future events, the business perspective, the operational and financial Projections and goals and the potential for future growth of WACC constitute mere beliefs and expectations from the management based on the information currently available.
These involve risks, uncertainties as they refer to future events and therefore Depends on circumstances that may or may not occur, investors should understand that general economic conditions, Industry conditions and other operating factors could affect WAG's future performance and could lead to results that differ materially from those expressed in We would like to remind you that this conference call is being conducted in Portuguese with this simultaneous translation into English. With us today in Zaraguados are Mr. Andre Luis Rodriguez, Chief Financial Administrative Officer and Investor Relations Officer Wilson Vatsko, Controlling Officer and Andres Monegette Salgueiro, Investor Relations Manager at WEG. Mr. Andrea Rodriguez, you may proceed, sir.
Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be with you once again in this earnings conference call to discuss WEX results. We're going to start with highlights for the quarter. The first being the net operating revenue, which grew by 41.4% compared to the 2nd quarter 2020. The continued positive commercial performance observed in the domestic market and the acceleration of industrial activity in the foreign were key to this result.
The good demand for our short cycle businesses in Brazil and the maintenance of long cycle businesses, mainly in the GTD area, significantly contributed to this result. In the external market, we served an acceleration in the recovery of industrial activity, confirming the signs of improvement reported in the previous quarter. We have shown revenue growth in our main markets and operating segments together with an increase in the market share In important markets for the company, we'd like to remind you of the weak comparison basis with the Q2 2020, both in Brazil and abroad, a period in which we had the greatest impact of the pandemic on our short cycle businesses, which contributed to the strong growth presented in these businesses. Another highlight in the quarter was our EBITDA, which grew by 90.2% and reached RMB1.4 billion. The EBITDA margin increased 6.2 percentage points reaching 42.2 percentage.
It's important to highlight that these numbers Consider the non recurring impact of the recognition of credit referring to the exclusion of ICMS tax From the PIS and cofinstax basis, EBITDA without the effect of these credits would have been $1,100,000,000 with an EBITDA margin of 19%. Throughout the presentation, Andres Augeiro will provide more details about this performance. Finally, we had another quarter of ROIC evolution, as we'll see in detail on the next slide, which grew by 10.6 percentage points over the Q2 2020, reaching 32.2%. The consistency of this indicator in recent quarters reflects the improvement in our operating performance demonstrated by the combination of revenue growth and expansion of EBITDA margin, together with the good management of the working capital in the past 12 months. I turn the floor over to Mr.
Salgueiro for him to continue the presentation. Thank you, Andre. Good morning, everyone. On Slide 5, I show the evolution of our business areas in the market where we operate, starting with Brazil, where demand in the industrial Electronic equipment area continued to be strong, supported by the high demand of short cycle products such as low voltage electric motors, serial automation equipment and gearboxes. The agribusiness, civil construction and mining segments were the main highlights of this quarter.
Supplies of long cycle equipment such as e houses and automation panels also contributed important supplies for segments such as mining and oil and gas. In the GTD area, We showed growth in all our businesses where we highlight the beginning of the supply of the new wind turbine, The good demand for distributed solar generation and the continued delivery of TD projects linked to the transmission line auctions held in recent years. In commercial and appliance motors, sales volume remained high, with the durable consumer goods, agribusiness and food segments being the main destinations for our product. Demand in Paints and varnishes also continue to be strong, especially in the oil and gas, sanitation, wastewater and civil construction segments. In the external market, in the industrial, electrical and electronic equipment area, we observed an acceleration in the pace of economic Recovery in all regions where we operate, sales volumes for our main customers and segments such as mining, oil and gas and water and wastewater confirmed this movement.
Additionally, it's worth noting that the sinus recovery reported in the previous quarter are being confirmed with improvement in the placement of orders for long cycle equipment in recent months. In GTD, We present another quarter of evolution in the T and D business with relevant projects being delivered in the United States, Colombia and also in South Africa. We also highlight the generation business, where we are successfully expanding sales of steam turbine Products and services in Europe. In the area of commercial and appliance motors, we saw significant growth in demand for our products. A move explained by the acceleration of economic recovery and gain in market share, especially in the United States and Mexico.
Finally, in Paints and Varnishes, we present an advance in sales in Latin American countries with an emphasis on Mexico, where we started operations of our new plant at the end of 2020. Slide 6 shows the evolution of EBITDA in the Q2 2021, where we presented a growth of 90.2% in relation to the same period of the previous year. Excluding the positive impact from the accounting of credits referring to the Exclusion of ICMS tax from the PIS and cofin's tax basis, EBITDA grew 49.2% in the period. EBITDA margin ended the quarter at 24.2 percent EBITDA margin, excluding ICMS credits, was 19%, an increase of 1 percentage point compared to the quarter 2020. We recorded another quarter of improvement compared to the same period of the previous year, reflecting the operationalization of costs and expenses, better occupation of plants, together with improvement in the margin in some important operations abroad.
Finally, on slide 7, we show the evolution of our investments. In the Q2 2021, investments reached $168,300,000 of which 52% were allocated to Brazil and 48% to units abroad. Proceeding with investments in our factories in Brazil, China, Mexico and the United States. With this, I finish my part and give the floor back to Andre. Thank you, Andre.
Before moving on to the question and answer session, I would like to mention some of our recent achievements and make some comments on our prospects for the remainder of the year. Regarding the achievements, I would like to highlight 2 recognitions that we had recently. WEC was the big winner of the best Companies on the Stock Exchange 2021 award created by Infomoney and Stockpickers based on a ranking prepared by IBEC and Economatica, we were awarded in the categories of best companies in the stock exchange market and best in the capital goods sector. We were also ranked 2nd among the companies that generated most value for shareholders in the Broadcast Increases 2021 award, And we were also awarded the special sustainability category. Finally, about the prospects for the year.
It's important to highlight that the pandemic has not being completely overcome. New variants of COVID-nineteen and the increase in the number of cases in some regions still generate market uncertainties. Another point to note is that the recent increases in the raw material costs are likely to put pressure on margins in the coming quarters. Anyway, we continue to expect to deliver healthy margins this year. On the other hand, the improvement in the number of orders placed signals an acceleration in the recovery in the external market.
And in Brazil, the good portfolio of long cycle equipment, especially in GTD, it's likely to continue to support revenue growth in the coming quarters. So we are confident that We will have another year of good growth for the company. I will end our presentation here. Please, operator, We can proceed with the question and answer session. Ladies and gentlemen, We can now begin the question and answer session.
Our first question comes from Lucas David with Santander. Good morning, sir. Congratulations on your results and thank you for the opportunity of asking a question. Considering the cost material increased prices. I would like you to provide some more information about how much you're protected in relation to your results and what are the possible impacts in general way?
And talking about wind turbines, we understand this is a very important driver for the growth in the next periods. I would like to know what are the contracts already made and what are the Impact on the margins of those contracts? And also in terms of new projects, would you like to change any structure so that you would include any pass through inflation clauses and if you are willing to share this risk your clients? Hello, Lucas. Thank you very much for your question.
This is Andrea Rodriguez speaking. In relation to raw material costs, Since the last quarter of last year, we have been noticing an increasing cost in the main raw materials. I believe this is something that we have been Working for a while now and this has been happening in Brazil for some months, especially raw materials indexed to the foreign exchange rates. And we have also seen some price increases in the metal plates and other inputs. And this can impact in the short term on our results.
In terms of cost structure of materials, this happens very similarly to all competitors. And since we are happening in all industry. In relation to wind turbines, our contracts of wind generation vary from client to depending on the negotiation we had. As a rule, we always have a protection for FX variation and we have closes of adjustments depending on the client, depending on the lead time and the period of effectiveness of each contract, we can always discuss points related to financial balance depending on the case. Thank you.
Yes, it sounds. You answered my question. Thank you. Next question comes from Marcela Motta with JPMorgan Bank. Good morning, everyone.
I have 2 questions. I would like you to make some comments on the long cycle portfolio. You're saying that you're receiving new orders. And the second is related to long cycle but more focused on the external market. We have seen some recovery, Important recovery, revenues, GTD.
So I would like to understand whether you have We reported some gains in market shares. If this revenue in dollars is something sustainable, I would like you to make some comments on the external market as a whole. Thank you. Hello, Motta. Thank you very much for your question.
This is Andres Alguerro Speaking here. First of all, let's talk about the portfolio and the separation that we like to talk with, especially when we talk about long term cycle. We make the separation of GTD and the electro electronic equipment. GTD has a positive portfolio since last year, and we continue maintaining the pace of this portfolio along 2021, Especially as a result of the business of T and D, whose performance has been very positive, especially in Brazil, but also in North America. But in Brazil, because wind generation projects are resuming.
So we have a positive portfolio for 2021 and also 2022. As for DTD, we have been disclosing our moves. And we said that we already had a positive portfolio for 2021. And this portfolio is being built for the year 2022. As For industrial electro electronic equipment, we started to report some volatility last year when we had some variations and the orders of long cycle products.
And then we started to see some normalization in the placement of orders. And the news for this quarter is that this has been confirmed. So we have been receiving orders both in Brazil and abroad. And this is a portfolio that has been maintained and has been growing every month. And we can have a very good visibility for the quarters to come.
And the demand comes especially From the strong resumption, not only in Brazil but also abroad, especially in the industry connected to commodities that are Very focused on long cycle products, steel industry, pulp and paper, mining. And this is something that has been happening both in Brazil and abroad. So this is the current situation of portfolio. In relation to the Performance of the external market, what we saw this quarter was an acceleration of the resumption of the activities. As for short cycle products, we see something that happened in Brazil in the Q2 last year when we saw the Very strong recovery as of the Q3 of last year as for automation motors, commercial and appliance motors.
And we see the main economies in Brazil and some countries in Europe also growing with important perspective GDP growth. So the perspectives are very positive. Putting this all together, we expect that we are going to continue posting good performance in our Sales both in Brazil and abroad. So this is the expectation that we have today and the visibility of new Expansion of our portfolio, we expect to have the Q2 in terms of demand, which will be very positive for the company. Perfect.
Thank you, Andre. Good morning. Our next question comes from Victor Mizusaki with Bradesco BBI. Hello, good morning. Congratulations on the results.
I have two questions. The first one is to Andre in terms of the tax reform and how can this impact WACC. And the second one is related to Volkswagen started to deliver using the e delivery. And we think about the Q2, the Q3, how can this help WEG's result? Thank you.
Hello, Victor. Thank you very much for the question. About the tax reform. I'll talk about tax reform and then Sorge will continue answering your questions. It's difficult to measure all the possible impacts of the tax reform in Brazil.
We have to monitor all the discussions. And as we have some definitions, some decisions on the main topics, such as the reduction of the income tax reduction. And we then can evaluate the scenario and all the directions that the company must take. When we have the final text of this tax reform, we'll be able to disclose this information to all of you. I think it's too early for us to have Final decision on this topic.
Vater, in relation to e delivery, I think the big news is that is the production, the commercial production of the truck that started in June. It's important to remember that all the volumes, sales aspects that are being disclosed to the market by Malm and Volkswagen. We have an expectations of volumes and units for the trucks to be delivered in the next months. And this has been included in our planning, but these are all incipient volumes. We do not have any expectations of any major contribution in the short term.
As we say, this is a business for the medium and long term. The volumes are going to start at low volumes and then they will gain force as time goes by. Okay. Thank you. Our next question comes from Renata Cabral with Citi.
Good morning, everyone. Thank you very much for the opportunity to ask questions and congratulations on the results. My question is related to the domestic market. The performance this quarter was Very good. Even considering that the comparison basis of the Q2 of last year was weaker as you mentioned.
And you mentioned the recovery of short cycle projects. Could you provide some details on the dynamics for the local market and what do you expect along the year? If there is a demand that was held back, do you expect any sustainable performance in the short cycle? And some colors on the GTD area, please. Renata, We'll to talk about the dynamics in Brazil, we have to separate according to the business area that comprise WIC.
When we talk about electric Industrial electronic equipment in Brazil. There was a high demand in all products in Brazil and this impact directly. When we talk about mining, civil construction and other aspects, we See the demand of short cycle. And then we are referring to gearboxes and serial automation equipment. When we look at Brazil considering the industrial electronic equipment, the supply of long cycles such as ACE houses and automation And as they continue contributing positively in this last quarter.
And the highlight was mining in oil and gas. And the long cycle orders, as Mr. Salgueira said, We continue to see improvements along the quarter. When we talk about GTD, We see that there has been a growth of 59.4% in this quarter. All businesses had growth in the quarter.
And we started supplying wind turbines. We saw Good demand for solar distributed energy. And this is very good performance in comparison to the previous quarters and also we saw a demand of alternators. In addition, we can also mention the maintenance of large Size transformers for substation and important projects related to auctions and all the infrastructures of transmission that were held in the past years. Now moving on and when we talk about more appliances, we can say that the comparison basis was week.
And this is something that was mostly affected in the past in the recent period, both in Brazil and abroad. And this is where we mostly felt the impact of the pandemic, short cycle product in the second half of the year. The volume continues to be good. Durable goods continue to grow, such as air Conditioner, household appliances and food segments and also in relation to paint and varnishes. The demand for these products continued to be very high, especially civil construction of oil and gas and sanitation.
So this would be a general scenario of what happened in the second quarter in Brazil. Okay, perfect. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Regis Cardoso with Credit Suisse. Thank you, Andre and Saguil Rodriguez for the opportunity to ask questions.
There are 2 topics that I would like to address. First one is related to Slide 8, when you say that the increasing cost must press down the margins. I would like to know if this comparison is year on year? Or can is it reasonable to believe that there be in margin reduction for the second quarter. Another topic I would like you to talk is the revenue had a surprise, a positive surprise, an upside in the pipeline.
I think we have addressed some of those topics, but I would like you to Discuss what changed in terms of expectations that we discussed in the previous calls. What do you believe has been surprise, is there a gain in the market share in the international markets? What has been the Positive surprises or have been people looking for gains in distributed generation? Has there been higher demand for solar energy? Or is there the problem of the drought in Brazil that has led to a higher portfolio or more demand.
I'm trying to understand, in fact, Why were we so surprised at the top line? So Could you help us in the perspectives in relation to the expectations of last year? Thank you very much. I'm going to Tarek and then Sorge will answer the second part of your question. Let's talk about margins first.
This is connected to the expectations related to raw material increases and also the mix the change in the mix of product that we sell, especially with the return of wind generation products and services. On the other hand, the acceleration of the demand Journal of market and the improvement in the long cycle product shows that we are going to have a positive second half of the year in terms of demand and occupation of our plants. And excluding the favorable impact of the ICMS credit tax And considering all the volatility that we have today, we expect 2021 to show healthy operating margins, not very different from what we had last year. This is Salgueiro now speaking. In relation to the top line, the demand is coming above what we expected last year.
You're right. And there is one point, which related to the macro aspects. If we think about the growth In Brazil and also in the main economies such as China and some countries in Europe, the GDP expectation is increasing. So this includes the resumption of the economic activity, which was stronger Then everybody expected, not only once, but everybody was surprised. So this is the first point.
And on account of this, we can see that the demand, especially in the external market, is a bit stronger than we expected. So this has accelerated and this is what I commented in one of the answers I gave. We saw a strong recovery in the third quarter of last year. And this is something that we also saw in some regions, some other countries. And this is also contributing.
And more recently, we have been able to see an improvement in the dynamics of the projects of long cycle projects. And this is all going to help us increase our revenue along with the next quarters. And this has already been materialized, but we expect this for the future. I believe these are the main differences. So going back to a specific point of your question, I believe that what is implicit here is that we are gaining Market share in some countries and some important regions.
When we look at our figures in China or our figures In some other markets, we realized that we are growing faster than the market. And WEG is very well structured. Our This model makes us to be very well prepared to take advantage of those opportunities to gain market shares in the regions where we operate. Okay. That was very clear.
Thank you very much. Congratulations on the results. Have a good day. Our next question comes from Thijs Castel with Itau. Hello, good morning.
I would like to talk about margin. You have already addressed this in a very clear way, but my question is a little bit more objective. When we look at the margin that you reported in the Q2, could you provide us some idea of You can talk about gross margin or you can also use EBITDA margin to answer this. How much this has been impacted by the increase in the cost of raw materials and the mix of product? And the second question is related to the perspective of investments.
I think Rodriguez has already given some important information on an article that was published by Valor Economica, but I would like to talk a little bit more about your prospects. Hello, Thais. Good morning. This is Andres Alguerri speaking. Yes, unfortunately, we cannot provide this breakdown of How much is cost and how much is related to mix?
Because we have a very important mix component in the variation. And If we had this breakdown, we would show the margin of some segments and this is something that we do not usually disclose. When we look at the margin of the second In relation to the Q1, without the effect of CMS credit tax, we had the reduction in the margin. And in this reduction, it includes the increase of raw material costs and also the mix, which is a bit different than we had, especially because we had the introduction of the wind turbine services whose margin is a bit lower than the average margin of WEG for other businesses. So we have the 2 effects included in this result.
In relation to investment, the CapEx was about BRL 1,000,000,000, 62% of this amount for the external market and 38% for the market in Brazil. And the first semester has already gone. We invested a little bit more than €300,000,000 And we believe that The execution of the remainder of what was expected for the second half is going to be very difficult to be realized. So this is going to become a carryover for the future. And there is a reason for that.
The pandemic still brings some difficulties. I'm going to give you some examples. Part of the investment was for the low voltage product plant in India. And India is a country which is suffering a lot from the COVID due 2 new rules for work. So the civil construction of the new plant was affected negatively.
And we have to Count on a limited number of workers. And there was a delay involved. The transformer plant in the United States also had some effect. And some supplies suppliers delayed the delivery of some equipment. And the new vision that we have, which are a bit more updated, we believe that the second half of the year will amount to €500,000,000 as investments.
So €200,000,000 below of What we have invested year on year, but it's once again a large part of the investment. Since I talked about the increase of capacity in the United state and India. But we also have to include the capacity of development in China. And we started producing in China in 2019. And we also have to consider the modernization of some plants and we also increased the capacity of some units in Brazil, such as by motors and appliances as well.
Okay. Thank you. Our next question comes from Catherine Quisellar with Banco DO Brasil. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on the results.
My question is about the competition. How do you see the competition in terms of prices and margins. Do you see any threats? I would like to understand that the resumption of market share will affect the margins. So could you provide some information on this?
Hi, Catherine. This is Andres Alguerre speaking. In relation to the Question related to the competitive environment. I couldn't hear your voice so clearly, so I'm going to elaborate on this. So if I Do not answer any part of your question.
Let me know. In relation to the competition, We have been working in order to maintain and gain more market share in all the Regions in all the countries where we operate, this is our long term strategy. So what We This market share in other markets and other regions. And in relation to the margin impact and how can this possibly affect The competitive environment, Andre Rodrigues, when he talked about the margin, he talked about the cost structure. The cost structure of our business is very connected to the commodities, especially the metal related commodities that, as a rule, They are commodities whose prices are defined at the global level.
So the cost structure that we have causes an impact similar to how other players are affected. So what is the difference? The difference is the This is model. The fact that we are verticalized, we and we try to be as As soon as productive as possible and this is part of our DNA. And as the time goes by, we can go deeper into those topics.
Because the cost structure is very similar, we do not see a lot of pressure or many important changes in the competitive environment As a result of this, so the competitive environment is more related to our business model. Thank you. My second question is related to WagDigital. Can you provide us with a follow-up on the digital WACC And also the portfolio of product? Hello, Catherine.
This is Andrea Rodriguez. Very good question. Let's provide you with some updates In the digital businesses of WEG, we are always reporting that this is a process of the company to journey on which we are building Step by step, according to our philosophy, we have 2 focuses. One is the asset management and the other is execution management. Both of them are complementary to provide solutions to our clients and help them on this journey to enter the 4.0 industry.
When we talk about asset Management, we can mention the solutions of monitoring equipment, data reading and connectivity, where we provide Products by means of our traditional business units and also using all the competence or And expertise of the companies we work with and providing the computing vision that all help us in this process. When we talk about execution management, We focus on productivity of the operations by means of solutions that were in house developed And also, connective solutions that were developed by D2COM. These are to empower with tools for our clients. We can mention artificial intelligence developed by WEG, our software development and The VAC Knowledge, which is our platform, and VAC Digital Solution, which is a unit of VAC, Is all an ecosystem that integrates equipment and tools, storing data and transforming the information, making it possible to monitor, control and automate all the operations doing analysis in real time. All this is done together with the competence that we have in the development of industrial products that are made by WACC.
So all the solutions are put together so as to be more productive. Our next question comes from Igor Araujo with Genao Investment. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on the results. You even Touched upon this topic, but I would like to ask a question about solar energy.
I would like to know What are the prospects for the or perspectives for the segment? Yes, I heard that there was a comment saying that this is the segment that grows the most. So how do you see your Tell us in the market what are the prospect expectations you have for this market. Hi, Igor. Good morning.
This is Andres Ogueru speaking. WEG in solar energy can be divided into 2 parts. We operate in distributed solar energy, where WEGA is one of the market leaders in this segment in Brazil. So the GD continues to evolve. We are well positioned to take the opportunities that come up.
And it started to grow at a stronger pace than we had seen in the Q1. But we have to Take into consideration that the comparison basis in terms of the Q2 2020 was a bit weak because of the pandemic, but we see a lot of Development, this is something that grew a lot at WEG in the past few years and it still presents good performance this year. So we believe that our Operating model by means of the integrators that are spread across the country bring Competitive advantages in this segment for the long term. So we are well positioned, and we believe that this is a segment that has been growing well in the last years, And we have been monitoring this growth. VOEC also operates in the centralized energy generation.
In Some years ago, we started to offer equipment and then we started to offer turnkey solutions. And more recently, we were successful to sell some Important equipment, especially solar central, central gearboxes and substation equipment. In this part of centralized generation, the contribution was not so important for or revenues. But we have an important agreement with Vale Sol de Seyhad, where we are going to start providing gearboxes in the second half of the year. So this is probably going to show us with some growth for the future.
Can you provide us with a vision of how much it is represented on the HDD in the domestic market. Unfortunately, we do not break down the revenues of GTD per business units. So what we always say, and this is something that we have been mentioning in the past few years, is that solar business has been developed a lot in the past few years. And this is a very We have now closed the question and session. I would like to give the floor back to Mr.
Andre Rodriguez for his final remarks. Thank you very much once again for taking part in this conference. And I hope to have your attendance in the next earnings call in October. Have a good day. WEGS conference call is now closed.
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