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CMD 2021

Aug 18, 2021

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Welcome to our Capital Markets Day. This is a very exciting day for Matas because today we present a simple and bold strategy for Matas. This strategy will make Matas a bigger company, and it will make us a company that is better positioned for long-term sustainable growth, which has been one of our issues over the last few years. It is a very simple strategy because the centerpiece is really that we want to sell more to existing customers, and that is really the simplest strategy that you can have. We will do so by expanding the range of the offer to customers on the number of products, brands, and categories we offer.

In fact, once we are at the end of this journey that we now start, the customer will be able to buy and choose from a selection that is 10 times as high online as compared to the Matas store down the street from where they live. It is also a bold strategy because it represents the biggest change and investment program in our recent history. Ultimately, this is a strategy where we as a company aim to play a bigger role in the lives of our customers and also in society. Now, of course, timing is everything when you start out on a new strategic journey, and right now times are unusual to say the least. Yet we believe that this is the best time to start out on a new journey. Why is that? Well, first, Matas is in really, really good shape.

We're looking at all the indicators, and we see nothing but green lights. We launch this strategy from a position of strength rather than being a company on its heels, and that is always a good thing. Second, we've just been through three years of very dramatic and very fast digital transformation, and we are now way ahead of the competition on digital. Really there is no reason to wait for others to catch up before making the next move. Third, it is evident that we were one of the companies who were plainly lucky to be at the right place and the right time to benefit from COVID. The current tailwind will surely not last forever, but we believe that the best remedy for us and for the company is more ambition, more initiative, and more speed.

I look forward to sharing our plan with you today for how we're going to grow Matas towards 2025, 2026. The agenda that we've put together for you, I will start out by looking back at what we have been through, our point of departure, and then put a few words to our new strategy, which we call Growing Matas Group. I will hand over to my good colleagues to take you through the different areas of our business and how they will change over the coming years and what their key initiatives are to support our strategy and reach our financial ambitions. Our CFO, Anders, will take over at the end to talk about our financial ambitions and how we manage the risk in our strategy, I will close with a few remarks and open for Q&A.

This is the team that you're going to meet, my good colleagues, Anders Skole-Sørensen, who many of you know, Brian Andersen, our E-Commerce Director, Lise Ryevad, our Commercial Director, Christian Schmidt, who runs the stores, Michael Shin, our recent international addition, and Brian Poulsen, our Logistics Director, who has a huge task ahead of him. It is very, very important to understand that Matas is a different company now than Matas was just four or five years ago. I will spend some time just to go through what is it that makes us different and what is it that makes us positioned to grow, and to even have an ambition to cross the DKK 5 billion threshold at the end of the strategy period. It's only possible because we are the company that we are now.

We launched a strategy called Renewing Matas, and that's what we've been working on for the last more than three years, and the results of that strategy has been very compelling. I have seen very fast and very secure and able execution in all aspects of the business. Our brand position is historically strong. Our online journey we have talked about many times, but it is a very, very impressive and very, very fast digital transformation that positions us for long-term growth. At the same time, the doomsayers that said the stores are going to go away, they've been proven wrong. We have a great store footprint that we have adapted over the years of profitable stores, and we have even upgraded a lot of those over the last three years.

We've also been able to get new growth both through acquisitions and especially in the health and wellbeing area, we've seen spectacular growth. At the same time, if you visited Matas, you would have noticed a lot of changing around on the internal parts of the business, with a lot of cost savings in some areas of the business and reallocation of those costs to new areas of the business. We've executed the strategy mainly organic, but also with a few acquisitions and investments over the years. What is the bottom line? Well, the bottom line is that Matas is now a digital company, and we don't use that word in vain, and we don't only think about our E-Commerce business.

We think about the whole company having been on a transformation, making us digital across all functions in the company, all roles in the company. Just to highlight a few examples. The core of what we're doing, the core thing that Matas is able to do, whether it is how we set the range, now starts out with an online view of the customer and an online range and then adapts it to the store. Whether it's how you are a member of Matas and our very important Club Matas, that is a fully digital experience right now. Even the way we run our stores, it is a much different job to work at a Matas store now than it was three, four years ago, with a lot of new gadgets and a lot of new ways of interacting with the customer and serving the customers.

Even our media business, which used to be mainly a physical leaflet distributed to the most of Denmark, is now also a digital business with social media and a lot of other digital media to support the sales and the brand building. We are also a digital company in the way that we lead the online market. We are the definite market leader in beauty. We crossed the DKK 1 billion threshold milestone in the last financial year. 26% of our revenues last year were digital. Of course, affected by COVID-19, but having just reported on the first quarter, that level of 26%, 27% is still what we're running on in the first quarter of this financial year. A quite dramatic change to our business composition. You could be caught up in the fear that going digital means losing earnings and losing margin.

What we have seen over the years is that we have been able to grow the business without materially sacrificing the gross margin, even though as we go online, there is some gross margin erosion because there are more campaign sales online. We've been able to grow our gross profits broadly in line with our top-line growth. Perhaps even more importantly, because this speaks directly to the business model of the company and why it's competitive against pure-play onliners, we have seen that omnichannel businesses that both have stores and online, they are capable of delivering better margins from their online business because there are a lot of synergies in sales, in sourcing, in marketing, in fulfillment, and in how we share the back end of the business. That's going to increase even more with some of the initiatives that we're going to talk about today.

Really a proof that going online doesn't mean sacrificing your long-term profitability. Now, it is also the case that we expect and have been expecting and have seen a lot more competition online, and we have been really focused on building competitive advantages in all parts of our business so that we can fight the likes of Amazon or pure players or new entrants to our market. We think that we have built a quite impressive list of what we call moats against competition or competitive advantages that will help us resist and help us defend our market position, even though online competition increases. I would encourage you to go through this list, but maybe just highlight one or two, namely the fact that we are not just a retailer, we are also a retail media company.

We are the best place to launch new brands and to reach Danish consumers and to build the brand premium if you own a brand, if you want to take a brand to market. We think that position is very defensible. Also we have a good share of house brands, which we aim to increase, but we also have selective distribution agreements, and that means really that you won't find the goods in our stores just anywhere. There is some kind of protection against commoditization. I think the most important thing to take away from the transformation and from the fact that we are now a different company is that we have better long-term growth prospects now. We used to be constrained by the number of physical stores and the size of the physical stores.

There really wasn't a lot of room to build more stores in Denmark. It was fully penetrated. We had our market leadership. Now having built our digital position, we have a lot better long-term growth prospects. Now, precise market data for the Danish health and beauty market is hard to come by. We have just taken one supplier market data, Euromonitor, and what they expect to see for the coming years and what they have reported for the past years is something that we have seen through and through, namely that the health and beauty market is a market that grows a bit more than inflation. You will, of course, see some volatility over economic cycles. You will see a lot of volatility due to COVID and post-COVID, of course, but underlying, this is a market that is growing faster than GDP.

Even though we in the mass beauty area see some drag on value, but still a growth in volume, then in the high-end business where we are strongly positioned and in particular in the health business, we expect growth rates to be markedly higher than inflation, and that is an interesting opportunity for us. The market, the health and beauty market, is very attractive from a commercial point of view. First of all, as I mentioned, it does tend to outgrow the general economy, and that is also due to demographic changes. People simply starting interested in beauty earlier in their life, and they are very interested in living longer and staying younger for longer, as we say in the business. There is this underlying growth in the market, and there is an eternal need for the products that we have on the shelf.

We even saw in the most dramatic crisis that we have ever seen or have seen for at least my lifetime over the last few years, that the need to take good care of yourself doesn't go away. It's also a market with large profit pools that can be shared across the entire value chain. No matter what player in the value chain, if you're in it's an attractive place to be. The main reason for that is that consumers, they like brands, they like newness, they like experience, they like advice. It's not just commodity products where price is the only thing that makes the consumer happy. It is also an interesting space in the sense that we see consumer health, digital health as an area with massive innovation, massive product innovation, massive innovation in services.

As I mentioned, it is also a business that is quite resistant to economic cycles. If you were to choose a category to compete in, we are fortunate to have chosen one that is attractive, both from an an underlying growth point of view, from a resilience point of view, and from a profit point of view. Now as we look ahead to the coming years, we still expect that outgrowing of the general economy to be the headline for the entire market, driven by three things in particular. One is the continued shift towards digital. We're simply able to reach more customers more times every day, and customers seem to have an ever-growing need to represent themselves online in new ways.

I think that's what we're seeing right now, the expectation in the business is summarized under the headline, the Roaring Twenties, that we believe that this is going to be an era of high growth and a lot of partying for the foreseeable future. As I mentioned, health demand, this is the greatest course humanity has ever been on taking care of ourselves, and we think a lot of the lessons learned on health are going to be sustained and fueled even further by demographics and product innovation. On the other hand, we do expect people to go traveling again at some point. How fast and how many and how often remains to be seen, but of course, that is going to work a bit against us.

We do expect physical retail to consolidate as online grows, and we do expect intensified competition in the online space for the attention of the consumer. Overall, we see tailwinds as we look ahead. Now, as a new business and as a business in an attractive market, we see that we have new growth opportunities, mainly related to expanding the assortment and also building our own brands and even opening the door to the world, and we will talk about that today. Our absolute overriding intention with this strategy is to position Matas and put Matas on a long-term sustainable growth trajectory and get out of these limitations and constraints that we have been living under and leveraging the fact that we are a digital company. That is our overriding concern and challenge to ourselves over the coming years.

The strategy itself, we call it Growing Matas Group. We have a purpose and a purpose that we take very seriously, that is that we want to be the partner for the consumers and be the partner that helps them be healthy and happy and stay beautiful all of their lives from the very first time that they start thinking about these things to the very last time they think about these things. Beauty is something that you think about a lot when you're young, and health is a thing you think about a lot when you're older. This is really holding the hand of the consumer all the way through their life.

Our ambition and why this next strategy is different from the one we have just been through, where it was mainly a matter of making sure that what we lost in the stores we gained online, and that we got that number one position online. We are now positioned to grow the online business without materially sacrificing sales in our physical stores. As we look ahead, our business model is really evolving. If you look over a 10-year stretch from being on one leg, the physical stores, to being now on two legs, the physical stores and online, to eventually being on three legs, the physical stores, online, and a good portfolio of brands that you find nowhere else but in Matas. Vertical integration as part of our strategic viewpoint for a number of reasons.

I don't think that there's ever been a time where business and society has been so closely interlinked and the role that businesses play in society, and we have thought about where can we make a difference to society. There are really three areas where Matas as a company can make a difference. First is sustainability, that as shopping goes online, it actually becomes less climate positive. We aim to be CO2 neutral in 2030. We aim to play a big part in what we might call the plastic revolution in figuring out how we can reduce or reuse plastics.

That is an area where we can play a big part in being innovative and finding new solutions. We've just seen through COVID that our contribution to public health is significant. We want to increase access to digital health solutions for all, and we want to bring more products with health benefits on the shelves, both online and offline. Finally, we take great care of our great colleagues in the stores and in our HQ. We aim to be the best place to work in retail despite all these changes going on. As for our long-term ambitions, we have set out two ambitions and a price tag. We have set a target of reaching more than DKK 5 billion in the financial year 2025, 2026. That is driven by growth in the online sales, and some consolidation in stores.

It does not include significant M&A. For our EBITDA margin, slightly down from where it is today, but still sustained at a high level and a very competitive level. It is affected by two factors. One is that we do get some margin expansion from growing the business from our investment in the warehouse and from vertical integration, but that is, we expect, counteracted by the fact that we will get more competition and we need to respond to that competition, and also with more growth ambitions comes more growth investments as in when we enter new categories. The price tag, excluding M&A, we expect a CapEx of DKK 1 billion-DKK 1.3 billion over the strategy period with the Matas Logistics Center, of course, being the absolute main part of that.

As we look at what's going to happen to the business in an illustrative way, and we compare to a situation before COVID-19, we think that the pressure on the stores is going to continue even though we're seeing quite compelling performance from the stores in Q1. We do think that over the long term, there is going to be pressure on the number of stores. We think Matas DK will be the biggest growth driver in the foreseeable future. We believe our investment in Firtal, which has paid off very nicely, will continue to deliver growth and our newest acquisition in Web Sundhed, positioned just right for digital health, will also drive growth. What is our strategy? Well, our strategy is to become the first choice for health and beauty. It is to have absolutely the most attractive offer when it comes to the assortment.

It is to be the number one choice online. It is to be the number one choice offline, and it is to own or have rights to the products that the customers most desire. The big change project is to be a very efficient operator of both store logistics and e-commerce logistics, and we will return to that. With that introduction, I look forward to introducing you to my good colleagues who have been absolutely instrumental in driving the results over the last three years. The first one I'm pleased to introduce is Lise Ryevad. Lise is our Commercial Director. She comes from an industry background in FMCG and L'Oréal, Mars Danmark, and L'Oréal. She's had experience with travel retail from Copenhagen Airport, and she's now with Matas, and her mission is quite clear. She's going to be the one to lead the assortment expansion.

With that, I will hand over to Lise.

Lise Ryevad
Commercial Director, Matas

Thank you, Gregers. My contribution to this new strategy, I can say it in a very simple phrase. I'm going to triple our assortment. I'm going to sell more products to our current customers. In this way, we will have our customers to spend more money with Matas, and thereby increase the customer lifetime value. It seems simple. It will be very simple, let me just explain during the coming few minutes. Let me explain more in details. Historically, Matas has been a mono-channel retailer. We've been market leaders, we have been mono-channel, physical stores, 300 stores nationwide. In each and every store, on average, people would be able to find 10,000 products in a store. Some stores bigger, 18,000 products, on average, 10,000 products. Since the last three to five years, we have grown to become an omnichannel business, an omnichannel retailer.

What we see is that having people to spend money both online and in store actually is very valuable for Matas. Actually, what we see is that omni-channel customers, they spend twice the amount of money with Matas as does an offline customer. This is really valuable. We have also seen that we have been able to grow the assortment to 50,000 products. Products that you will find only online, but also can be bought via connected retail. Now, in the future, our strategy is to triple the amount of SKUs that we have today. To offer a lot of new products to our current customers. We will stay within our categories, our core categories.

We might go into adjacent categories, but within health and beauty and the close area around health and beauty, this is where we want to expand. 100,000 extra products, that is massive. These products will be available mainly online, and we know that the biggest part of the turnover will come online, but also via our stores, our connected retail, also via these endless aisles. We are training our assistants and our advisors in-store to be much better in not just offering the 10,000 units on the floor physically in the store, but also looking into and offering the full endless aisle assortment which we offer online. Now, to describe that a bit differently, it means that typically a customer that would historically come into the store and choose between these 10,000 SKUs, they will now be presented to 15 x that amount of products.

Putting it into another context, we would offer twice the amount of what a consumer will meet when they enter a Bilka warehouse. It is a huge expansion that we are planning to do. We believe that with the distribution system we have and with the machinery or the marketing machine, et cetera, that we have, that we will be able to do so. This is what this slide actually shows us. We have a second to none distribution and marketing power, and we have built that over the last 10, 20 years. First of all, distribution-wise, we have the 264 nationwide stores from Skagen to Gedser. We have our very strong online channel. We have the app that people are downloading and using every day to find products. Distribution-wise, we are second to none within our categories.

Furthermore, over the past 10 years, we have built Club Matas. Club Matas today is one of the strongest loyalty schemes in Denmark. We have 1.7 million loyal consumers. We know exactly what these consumers are interested in. We know exactly what they've been buying over the past 10 years, and we will also be able to tell what they will be interested in buying in the future. This is a great strength for Matas. Finally, we have our very strong media portfolio, a media portfolio that we have also built over the past five, 10 years, and where we every single month are in contact and communicate and reach 1.8 million Danish consumers.

Adding a whole lot of new products and using this distribution and marketing machine to build awareness, desire, bring offers directly to the consumers, by doing that, we believe that we will be successful with this new strategy. To begin with, beauty market, huge market, DKK 8 billion. We are by far market leader today. When we go a bit further into details, we experience sub-segments where we are either not present or very, very small. Furthermore, the health business, it's a bit smaller, DKK 5 billion market, but growing very fast. We are underrepresented in this market. We believe we have a much higher fair share that we can reach. We will be able to grow the market by adding further products to our assortment, and we will be able to win market shares. Let me go in detail.

To begin with, the beauty market, as mentioned, a DKK 8 billion market, and especially in high-end beauty, Matas is very strong and by far market leader with 50%-60% market share. When we go beneath, we see, for example, a segment like the professional haircare segment, where really we are not present at all. We have less than 5% market share. It's a DKK 0.5 billion market, and with less than 5% market share, it really does not make sense. It doesn't make sense to me that we are not present in this market. What is lucky is it doesn't make sense to our consumers either. Our consumers, they're used to buying styling products and haircare products in Matas. Why not professional haircare? Professional haircare will be the first sub-segment that we will enter.

We have made agreements with the biggest 18 brands within professional haircare to distribute their brands. From August on, we will have these brands, 18 brands, 700 products online, we are planning to add another 15 - 20 brands within the coming year or two. Launching brands is not all. We want to win this market, we want to become number one in this professional haircare market. To do so, we need to be very professional. We can't just sell products and put everything on a very low price. We want to be professional. We are all about advice, so of course, we should be the best in giving advice to our consumers, also in professional haircare if we enter this market.

On the August 23rd, we will launch a new destination on matas.dk, a destination where we have hairdressers, we have hairstylists that are giving tips, that are showing how-to guidance, tutorials, that is doing live chat. They will do one-to-one consultations with our customers. All in all, probably the best destination, the most professional destination you can go to find information on professional haircare and, of course, the full assortment. Jumping into health, as I mentioned, slightly not as big market, but growing quite strong. We have a low market share of 20%. We believe our fair share should be closer to 30% or 40%, and it is actually within all categories that we believe there is an attractive market position for us to grab into. It's with OTC, over-the-counter, supplements, and even personal care, where we do believe that we have potential.

When going into health, for sure, we want to become a trusted health advisor. Historically, Matas, in many consumers' minds, we are stronger in beauty than we are in health, and we know that. Apart from launching products, we will also go out and do partnerships in a stronger degree than we do today with experts that have details about products and markets that we don't have, and we will deliver all the good knowledge we have from Club Matas, from customers, what they buy, what they want. When we put those two things together, we believe that we can be in great partnerships, we can develop new products. Apart from the partnership we have with Novozymes, we are planning to do more partnerships with experts. We want to be the trusted advisor in health in Denmark. We have taken in pharmacist technicians.

We are training our + 2,000 advisors in the store to become even more competent within health. That's going on as we speak. We know that the health market is under-communicated, simply not a lot of money spent in marketing in health. We do believe that this is a way for us to take a larger market share as well, to use our media machine and to spend money, and thereby, to grow our position in the health market. An example of a sub-segment where we do believe that we can make a difference, the dermatological skincare. Dermatological skincare will be the first sub-segment within health where we will increase our number of products. Today, it's a DKK 600 million market. We have less than 5% market share. We do believe that we should have closer to 30% market share.

On top of that, we see that it is a market that is underdeveloped. In Denmark, only 19% of the skincare market is dermatological skincare, whereas in Western Europe and in Sweden and Norway, it is 30%-36%. Together with dermatological skincare brands and suppliers, we want to build further the market, as well as gaining market share from some of our competitors. In June, we launched the first three dermatological skincare brands, CeraVe, Neutrogena, and Cetaphil. Within the coming three to four months, we will launch another six brands, some of the very biggest brands within dermatological skincare. We will take this position not only to what brands and products that we launch, but also build online a destination with a green cross and with the advice from a specialist on dermatological skincare.

These are two examples of how we believe we can grow our existing categories. We can grow the number of products tremendously and thereby make our customers spend more money, our existing customers spend more money with Matas, and finally, growing the customer lifetime value. Thank you.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you so much, Lise, for that presentation. To me, the key takeaway is a change in mindset at Matas. Over the last maybe even a decade, we have been defending our market position against new entrants, and making sure that we're still the number one choice for consumers. Now we are moving into the offensive. We are driving a massive increase in our assortment and using our strong digital position to win market share and sell more to existing customers. Now, online is going to be the big driver of our growth, and therefore, I'm happy to present to you Brian Andersen. Brian has been very close, together with Lise, very close teammate on the last three years' journey, and done an amazing job of actually 10x-ing or increasing our online revenues by more than 10 x.

Now we hand him the next challenge, and the next challenge for Brian is to double online revenues by selling more to the 600,000 customers that are already shopping both online and offline with Matas, but also to keep on the impressive acquisition of new customers that maybe only shop at our stores or shop with other onliners to matas.dk and our colleagues at Firtal and WebSundhed. With that, I will hand over to Brian, who brings more than 20 years of pure e-commerce competence to the table.

Brian Andersen
E-Commerce Director, Matas

Thank you, Gregers. Today, I will share how we deliver growth through our free digital platform, matas.dk, Firtal, and our collaboration with webapoteket.dk. First, I will focus on matas.dk and how we, through broad assortment and strong customer experience, will grow the turnover. First, it is important to understand our point of departure. In the last three years, we have had a tremendous growth at matas.dk. Three years ago, we were the 20 most used webshop in Denmark, the last three years, we have outperformed all our major competitors in growth, and last year we was the second most used webshop in Denmark. This strong growth also has an impact on the Danish consumers' brand perceptions about Matas. Each year, YouGov asks Danish consumers about which brands they believe are the strongest in Denmark.

Three years ago, Matas was not in top 10, but last year or this year, we were the third strongest brand in Denmark. We have a lot of indicators that shows that this lift in brand perception is mainly driven by our digital, stronger experience. If we focus more on our internal number, we had the last three years, we have had more than 600% growth in our digital turnover in Matas. 2018 and 2019 was very strong, but it really accelerated in 2020. As we just shared today, we had in the first quarter of this financial year, we have been able to deliver lower number double-digit growth on this, so we believe that we have a sustainable level that will grow from top up in the future.

If we should focus on why have we been able to deliver this growth, we have really focused on improving the customer experience. The last two years, we have improved the customer NPS by 13% at matas.dk. If I should share some examples about what have driven this, I have three examples with me today. First of all, we really focused on the delivery experience. Now we deliver same-day delivery to 50% of the Danish consumers, and we get some very strong customer satisfactions for customers that have used this delivery service. We also introduced live advice and guidance from our stores. At matas.dk, you can be guided by a trained Matas person direct from a store, and therefore we can deliver the same guidance experience at matas.dk that the consumers has loved Matas stores for decades. Finally, we'll introduce a lot of engaging content.

Matas is one of the global leaders in using live video shopping, and the last year we have hosted more than 100 live events from our webshop, and they are driving very high customer satisfactions and also strong conversions. To follow up on Lise's sections, we believe that there are a lot of headroom in our both existing and new categories to drive digital growth. If we first look at the high-end beauty and the mass beauty, Matas is a clear market leader, and we are pretty sure that these categories will continue migrating online in the future, and this will impact a lot of our growth numbers. There are very high numbers of turnover going digital.

If we look at the new categories and the upcoming categories for Matas, wellbeing, dermacosmetics, and professionals haircare, we have larger market shares in these categories, but we see this as a double opportunity for growth, both that these categories turn online in the future, and that will impact growth for Matas, and we also have a possibility to grow our market shares in these categories. If I should sum up our strategy for matas.dk in the future to strengthen and expand our market leader position, it first of all start with we will offer the broadest assortment. Next, we will give the strongest guidance and inspiration localized for Danish consumers. We will offer the fastest delivery, and a lot of research shows that fast delivery is very important both for conversions and customers' loyalty.

We will also use our strong Club Matas data, gathered both in stores and digital, to provide personalization in each touchpoint. We'll do a lot of one-to-one communications to secure share wallet and win the consumers across categories. Fifth, at our digital platforms, we are in contact with most of the Danish consumers. Based on that contact, we can build a very strong pool of first-party data. We'll use this data to be very relevant and win the largest share of voice online to be in contact with the Danish consumers on a continuously basis. Final, but not least important, we will build very strong digital partnerships with our suppliers. We will use our internal digital media and external digital media both to build new brands and grow existing brands.

If we combine these six elements, we are pretty sure that they would enforce each other and expand our market-leading position that we have at the Danish market today. Okay, now I will shift to Firtal, that has a price-led niche position and a portfolio of webshop with a very low-cost operating model. We acquired Firtal three years ago, since, the group has outperformed our investment case. Three years ago, Firtal has a annual turnover around DKK 140 million, last year we almost has a turnover on DKK 350 million. We have a 2.5x growth. Also very important, they have a very strong margin compared to peer pure-players online retailers. Firtal operates with around 10% profit margin, if you compare that to peer group that has the same growth, they're around 1%. This is driven by very strong operational focus.

We have very strong e-commerce system and expertise, and we also have some strong synergies with Matas. Finally, about the background about Firtal, it is that the two founders, Mikkel and Jesper, are still on board, and they're really focused on building a scalable team and keep their learning culture. They educate their own staff directly from school, and therefore they have a very strong internal company culture. We also recently covered the services they had developed under the brand Geni, and we will use this focused shop company of Firtal to further develop these services. We also started delivering these services to other parts of the group and a selected number of external customers. For the future, we believe that Firtal has a strong platform for future profitable growth across their portfolio of webshops. The two strongest brands Firtal has are Helsebixen and Jala Helsekost.

When we measure these positions and compare them to peer groups on perceived price and perceived value, they have some very strong positions. Since they are price fighter positions, they of course perform strong on price, but they also perform very strong on the perceived value they deliver to consumers. This value is driven by large assortment, strong customer service, fast delivery, and they also give very strong category expertise to their consumers. We believe that Firtal will be able, in the future, to sustain their margins and they will deliver a low and double-digit growth. We believe there's still a strong possibility to enhance their assortment and keep the price fighter strategy. We also have a platform if the right bolt-on acquisition shows up, that we could include these new brands on the platform.

We believe that through keeping focused on the low-cost operating model, we will be able to sustain our margins, and we still have some synergies that we collaborate with purchasing together with Matas. Finally, I will focus on Webapoteket and Web Sundhed, that are our most recent digital platform. Our goal is to deliver a very strong customer experience to the Danish consumers should go online and buy health and pharmacy services. Web Sundhed has worked closely together with Webapoteket, and Webapoteket was the first pure player on the digital pharmacy market and has a clear ambition of being the Danish market leader in the pharmacy industry. Web Sundhed consists of four services: storage, logistics, purchasing, IT platform, and marketing services, and they deliver that to webapoteket.dk.

That is the platform that's owned by Trine Persson, that is a pharmacist, and she runs the customer handling, the pharmacy operations, and the commercial strategy, including pricing, assortment, and the campaign timing. From an investment perspective, we believe there are four very broad rationales behind these acquisitions and the collaboration with Webapoteket. First of all, we believe that the Danish pharmacy industry will stand before digital transformation in the years to come. A lot of other industries have gone through the digital transformation, but the pharmacy industry has not yet in Denmark. Only around 2%-3% of the Danish transactions in the pharma industry is digital. If we compare to Sweden, the same number is 8%. Also, if we look to U.K. and Germany, there are a high degree of digitalization in the pharmacy industry.

We believe that there is a huge opportunity when this market share will increase in Denmark. We also believe that the collaboration with Matas and Webapoteket can speed up this transformation, and we can deliver a better shopping experience for Danish consumers going online to buy health and pharmacy services. We can give Webapoteket access to a stronger assortment, we can deliver best-in-class delivery services, and we can deliver very strong digital marketing services. In this collaboration, the pharmacist, Trine Persson, can focus on the core pharmacy operations since she outsourced some of the core operations to Matas. Finally, if the Danish pharmacy industry will be further liberalized in the future, we have a strong position to be part of this. To sum up my three sections, I will tell shortly about how the three platforms can reinforce each other.

If you look at the assortment, Matas DK contributes the purchasing power and very strong scale advantages to our large suppliers. These large agreements can, in many cases, be shared with the other platform in the group. Firtal is very strong in collaborating with a lot of suppliers. They have a system for integrating with hundreds of small suppliers. Therefore they, in an efficient manner, can make a long tail assortment. They can also offer this and already do that for other parts of the group so that we can access to a large number of long-tail products in the other parts of the group companies. Finally, Web Sundhed contributes the consumer insights on health products. They're very strong in niche products from the niche health industry. In the future, we can also make these products relevant for other parts of the group.

Combined, we believe that these three approaches on assortment can make that Matas will have the strongest assortment to offer Danish consumers on the internet. We also can make relevant services available across the group we can share best practices on our areas.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you, Brian. To me, the key takeaway from what Brian has just said and from how the business has developed over the few years is that, five years ago, the digital revolution was really bad news for Matas and a structural threat for Matas. Now it is an opportunity. We are very well-positioned, both to protect and maybe even expand our position in our existing categories towards existing customers, but we are also positioned again to go on the offensive and sell more to our existing customers of new categories, especially within professional haircare and health, and maybe even more to come eventually. This was assortment, this was digital. Now it's time for the stores. I'm very pleased to introduce Christian Schmidt.

He's a new colleague, joined us from a long and impressive career in running physical retail jobs in ALDI, in TOP-TOY, and in Salling Group, where he started out. He is responsible for the stores, and I can't say this clearly enough, we believe in the stores. We believe that stores are part of the future, and we believe that well-run stores are super attractive to consumers of all ages. Christian has a very exciting job to use all the new opportunities for integrating with digital and connect our stores, but also drive the consolidation of the store network and continually make sure that Matas stores are the number one choice when you're on the street, and continually make sure that we can protect the profitability of our wonderful stores. With that, I will hand over to Christian for a review of our store strategy.

Christian Schmidt
Retail Director, Matas

Thank you. As mentioned, I'm Christian Schmidt, responsible for the Retail Division. I look super much forward to take you through our retail strategy. I will start with providing you with our perspective on the markets, afterwards go through our strategy. As most market participants, we believe that the pressure on the physical retail market will continue. However, we are confident that our strategy of operating, consolidating, and connecting the stores can mitigate this. The COVID-19 restrictions and lockdowns has pushed the customers online to an extent we haven't seen before. If we compare our online share, Matas DK, versus our offline share, as shown on this chart, we clearly see a picture that once the restrictions are lifted, the customers know where to find our stores.

In the coming strategy period, we will change focus from a conventional store renewal program to a digital store renewal program. We are focusing on three areas to be successful: operate, consolidate, and connecting the stores. These three areas are equally important, and we need to balance our attention on each of these. I will walk you through each one- by- one, starting with operating the stores. I've actually looked very much forward to share this page with you because I think it's very impressive. Matas has a long history of being a strong store operator. Even during a pandemic with several restrictions and lockdowns that limits the traffic to the stores, we have been able to sustain profitability across the store network. Despite two stores, I need to remember to say.

Even though we have been able to keep positive profitability and sustain flat development in our store salary perecentages, we have, in several years, some major improvements that will ensure continued profitability despite a heavily market pressure. The three major categories are staff optimization. That's basically for me, that we improve our capability to match our staffing with the consumer footfall. We have what we call ease of payment through digital products, such as a mobile POS terminal, in order to free up staff to spend on better customer service and more sales. Last but not least, we are working with best practice. Best practice mean for me that we are benchmarking our stores in clusters, in order to improve the staff efficiency.

On top of operating the stores even better than we do today, we also see a potential in continuously adapting the store network or consolidating the store network, I mean. The current store fleet situation is that we have 264 with a nationwide coverage, filled with more than 2,000 trained health and beauty advisors that provide a very strong customer satisfaction. Our store network has undergone a significant transformation the last three years. We have reduced our fleet by 13 stores. Behind this number comes large work of consolidation and relocation in order to adapt to the consumers' needs and behaviors, of course, also increase the traffic. We have closed 12 stores. We have consolidated 14 stores into seven stores. As an example of this, we have Fredericia, where we, in a distance of 200 m, had two stores.

We combined these two to one big store that allows for more customers and products. We have also relocated nine stores to new addresses with higher traffic. Top of this, in the past three years, we have also been able to open six new stores in white spot areas. This store network transformation has only been possible due to our best-in-class agile lease terms. All our stores are rental spaces with an average exit term below six months. Historically, we have been able to exit the leases at a cost below the upfront deposit. What does that mean? That mean, actually, that we can exit a store without having a cost, and therefore, it allows us to do as we please.

These facts actually also allow us to have a very agile and dynamic, you could say, aggressive store fleet strategy to continuously adapt the store network to get fewer, bigger, better stores and, of course, also push the rent cost down. This also means that there will be no five-year store number target that we're working towards. That's because, as mentioned before, the store network needs to adapt the consumers' needs and behaviors. The final part of our digital store renewal program is our connecting the stores. This is probably the most exciting thing of today's presentation. In the Renewing Matas strategy, we launched a conventional store upgrade program, which gave good learnings that we can achieve same customer satisfaction with a less CapEx-intensive store refresh program.

We are now building upon this learning to refresh more stores by upgrading the look and feel and adding a lot of digital store features, such an in-store app mode for the Club Matas mode, easier or convenient payment, and much more. Our connected store is a conventional Matas store, but with a layer of multiple digital services. A connected store have endless aisles with the full Matas DK assortment that the staff can offer. Currently, it will give us a SKU uplift from 11,000 articles to 50,000 articles. At the end of this strategy period, it will actually increase to 150,000 articles. Matas DK currently provides traffic to the stores as customer come to pick up their online orders. We can upsell to more than 25% of the currently 1.1 million customers that come to pick up their orders.

As Matas DK continues to grow, this number will only go up. We have also live events in the stores through Facebook with 50% conversion rate and a super strong after-sale in the period after. It is now possible for customers to get access from anywhere to their beauty advisors to solve their problems. Ease of payment is, as mentioned before, also a part of the connected store in order to release staff time spent on transactions. It is also possible that customers can book a one-to-one shopping session with a specialized advisor in the stores. Product subscribers have a 25% higher spend and buy products at a 20% higher frequency, and therefore, have a high value to the Matas Group.

We are able to recruit these customers directly in store while they are doing their regular product purchases. Through click and reserve, we can both make low-cost fulfillment from store, but also increase store traffic. As you can see, we have the model in place for connecting the stores. It's basically just about rolling it out across the network. As an example on the potential, we have the endless aisle, and if we lift up all stores to the level of the 10th best store in terms of endless aisle, we will have a revenue uplift on DKK 80 million-DKK 100 million. This example is actually before the assortment expansion, which provide an even higher long-term potential. If we combine just these three examples, it will allow us to have an uplift in revenue above DKK 200 million.

To sum up or to wrap up the presentation, I want to conclude this. We do see, or we do foresee some physical retail market pressure that limits store traffic, but we expect to mitigate this through our digital store renewal program, focusing on, one, operate the store even better than we do today. We still have much to do here. Two, continuously adapting the store network to match consumers' needs and behaviors by leveraging our best-in-class agile lease terms. Three, rolling out the connected store model across the entire network. Thank you.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you, Christian, for that presentation. I want to make clear that we believe in stores. We think stores are going to be part of the future. We will continue to invest in refreshing our stores. I want to highlight the fact that our store network is so flexible. That is a massive advantage that ultimately the customer will decide how many stores we have in Denmark, and we can get in and get out very cheaply and very quickly. Also to highlight that a store is no longer a store of the past. The way we operate stores, the services we offer in the stores, that is a massively new experience, and it is not only a new experience, it is an experience that allows us to have a digital footprint that is even larger than just the physical footprint of the stores.

Talking about footprint and talking about what we offer in the stores, now it's time to move to our next team member, in a moment, I will introduce to you Michael Shin, who is a recent addition to the team. He's the first full-fledged international member of the team, his job is really to build what we call the third leg of our strategy, namely to widen the portfolio of what we call house brands that are particular to Matas to support our differentiation, and to improve our margin. His job is also to open the door to the world and initiate international sales of some of our own brands. With that, I will hand over to you, Michael.

Michael Shin
Brands Director, Matas

Thank you, Gregers. Hi, everybody. My name is Michael Shin, and I joined Matas in April of this year. I have more than 30 years of experience working in the beauty market, beauty industry, working for companies such as L'Oréal, Elizabeth Arden, and the Icelandic biotech company, BIOEFFECT. It's my pleasure today to tell you more about our plans on building a portfolio of Scandinavian beauty brands. Now, brands, as you know, has been an integral part to the Matas business, and over the years, we've been very successful in commercializing both health and beauty brands. But today, we want to go one step further by becoming a stronger brand owner and thereby increasing our share of own branded sales.

This means that ultimately we will be able to improve our margins, and we will be able to find new avenues of growth when it comes to net sales, both in Denmark and in international markets. This is not a new model. We've seen other retailers go down this route, such as Boots with the No7 brands, or Sephora, who have their brand incubator, Kendo. Also online, we have retailers, such as The Hut Group, that have both commercial platforms and are owning their own brands. The objective of the brand ownership strategy is to improve our differentiation, because we will be able to control where our brands are being sold and how they are being positioned. This will help us differentiate ourselves against competition.

Secondly, it will give us an option to also expand our portfolio international and add incremental growth to our Danish business. Now, we've developed a three-step strategy in order to execute this vision, which I will take you through. In step one, we want to upgrade our brand building competencies. Then we want to expand our portfolio of house brands and partnerships. In step three, we want to test the appeal of our Scandinavian beauty brands in international markets. I'd like to go into each one of those steps in a little bit more detail. First of all, step one.

Now, when it comes to developing and launching new beauty brands, today, it has become much easier and financially much less riskier than years ago. Previously, what you would do typically is to develop your brand, and then you would have to put quite a bit of money upfront to invest in TV and print to build awareness, image, and pull for the brand to be commercially successful. Once that model had been proven, you would then roll it out internationally. In today's digitalized world, that model has slightly changed. We're now able to launch frontally in a number of different geographies at the same time, and we're able to do so with less investment upfront because we can use very targeted social media, online media, we can use PR, and word of mouth. The risk to develop our own brands has become more mitigated.

The way to upgrade the brand-building competencies is also very important, and we've looked at our internal processes. As you know, we are world-class when it comes to launching brands. Where we see opportunities to grow is when it comes to product development and brand building. Here we will be recruiting talent with an international mindset who've done this before, both when it comes to product development, branding, both from the digital point of view and also from the more classical point of view. By having the full scope of the process in-house, we think that we can really gain major benefits in the value chain. Now to step two on how we will execute and how we'll go to market with our various brands. We will deploy these in three different routes. The first one being with the Matas brands.

As you know, Matas enjoys more than 90% awareness in Denmark as a retailer. However, internationally, we will be positioning Matas as a beauty brand. This means changing our mindset from being an own label producer to a branded owner. What we will do, we'll have Matas as the mega brand, and then underneath we'll have Striberne, Plaisir, and My Moments. Route number two will be via our acquired brands or brands where we have an investment. We acquired Nilens Jord, Denmark's largest makeup brand, some years ago. This has undergone some new branding for international markets, and we will be launching Nilens Jord in international markets in the coming months ahead. Secondly, our investment in Miild. Miild is a Danish, sustainable, ecological, clean makeup brand founded by two makeup artists.

We see great potential with this positioning. We will be accelerating the sales of Miild, both domestically and in international markets. Because both of these are makeup brands, we see a lot of synergies in the back office when it comes to new product development, but also when executing in the markets and in best practice sharing. Thirdly, our new brand incubator, Grænn. The purpose of Grænn is to feed the Matas house brands with new brands, and we're able to do so in three different routes. The first route being, for instance, creating brands from scratch. Secondly, what we'll be able to do is also have partnerships with fashion or lifestyle brands that already have quite an awareness and who want to enter into the beauty field. Thirdly, we'll be able to make investments in existing or upcoming beauty brands in the Scandinavian region.

With these three routes, we're able to find brands and find products that are both in makeup, skincare, and fragrance across the different price points. We've prepared a small video of Grænn to show you a little bit more what our intention is, and I'm very happy to show that to you now. My name is Michael Shin from Grænn, the incubator for Nordic Beauty Brands. I would like to invite you to co-create new experiences in the international beauty industry. The world is changing. Digital transformation and the need for sustainable solutions call for new business models and value propositions. Trying times are times for trying. In the beauty industry, the Nordic vision of beauty with its holistic approach is more relevant and more in demand than ever before. Our role is to conceptualize, foster, and launch sustainable beauty ideas to surface demand.

We would like to co-create beauty brands based on values that are earth-friendly, have strong design aesthetics, can be up and recycled, only have pure formulas. You have the brand and vision. We have the craft, experience, distribution, and governance. Grænn, Nordic Beauty Brands, part of the Matas Group. To step three, to test the appeal of our Scandinavian beauty brands in international markets. We've seen that in other categories such as furniture, design, or food, that the Nordic region has had a major impact in global markets. We think that now is the turn for beauty. We think that Nordic beauty brands will have major appetite in international markets, that is because the values that we represent are so relevant in today's world. Values such as inclusiveness, sustainability, clean formulas, and responsibility.

We think that these values sit perfectly alongside existing brands coming from France, American beauty brands, or Asian beauty brands. We do believe that there's a major appeal, a major appetite for Scandinavian beauty brands, and we will be testing this in the months ahead. I hope that this presentation has given you a good first overview of our strategy of building a portfolio of Scandinavian beauty brands, and I'll hand over back to Gregers. Thank you very much

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you, Michael, and welcome to the team. Two things I want to take away from this. Building a bigger portfolio of house brands is a good thing for the Matas business that you already know. It will provide differentiation in our stores and online. It will add margin to our business. On that alone, this is a sound and good initiative. It is also our license to play outside of Denmark, and I consider this a first step to meeting demand and requests that we have heard over the years at a time where Nordic values are in vogue. Historically, we haven't had the competence or the people to respond to that demand. Now we will take a first step outside of Denmark with this initiative.

All of these ideas and all of these initiatives to support the growth, we need a backbone that is different from the one we have now. Our next speaker, Brian Poulsen, I am going to introduce in a slightly different way by taking you on a short road trip, and right after that, Brian will take over and go through the facts.

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I am so excited about this. In recent years, Matas have step changed the digital journey quite significantly. They have managed to change the customer journey. I think what makes it really interesting and even more powerful is the combination of the stores and the online presence that Matas developed in the last couple of years. It's one of the best-executed models for, let's say, traditional brick-and-mortar retailers that I believe we have seen in, yeah, in Europe, actually. I believe that Matas has this huge e-commerce muscle that can help us go the next step further and actually get online pharmacy growing in a way that we couldn't do on our own. To be the future winner, we need the largest assortment, the fastest delivery, and a scalable capacity. This will bring Matas into Champions League.

The role of a company like ours, of the distributor like Matas, is to be able to cover all the touch points where the consumer is, and one day consumer decides to buy online, one day consumer goes to the store. Our role is to be everywhere. What we can offer is the power of innovation, power of excitement around our brands. Putting it inside the Matas ecosystem, let it be online and offline, I believe makes a big difference in attracting this new generation of shoppers in the stores. Younger consumers in the coming years will be looking for brands and retailers with a strong sense of purpose.

I think Matas, with the role that the company has in retail in Denmark today, will have to continue to evolve in this area. In just one year, we expect to start the building process of one very big warehouse. I'm quite sure that this will be a massive advantage for Matas in the future.

Brian Gøbel-Poulsen
Logistics Director, Matas

Thank you. My name is Brian. I'm the overall responsible for the supply chain in Matas. I must say, I have really looked forward to this, because the reason why I'm here is to introduce you to a very exciting project, the new Matas Logistics Center. In my presentation, I will try to reveal some of the backgrounds and some of the details about the project. As you already have heard, Matas have a strong growth strategy for the coming years. A lot of the elements in that strategy requires a lot from the logistics. We need a step change in logistic to support the future strategy. We need a higher, a larger assortment.

We need faster delivery. We need a scalable capacity, and we need also, of course, the lowest cost. In my presentation, I will have three main topics. One, I will go through the current warehouse structure and also give you some insights on why we have to invest in logistics in Matas. Two, I will take you through some of the details in the project about the new Matas Logistics Center, and I will also reveal some of the future performance in the logistics center. Finally, I will talk about the CapEx investment, and of course, also some of the benefits. All right. Let's start by looking at the current warehouse structure. We are currently operating seven warehouses in Matas in Denmark. They're mainly located in Allerød, fairly close to our headquarter.

We have a quite lean setup, but it is a very manual setup, and we work with a very low degree of automation. In order to support the future strategy, and when we look into the future, we see two things very clear. One, this warehouse structure is not scalable up to the extent that we need in the future growth strategy. Two, we will never get the operating cost down to the world-class level that we need. The conclusion is quite clear.

We need to consolidate our warehouses, and we need a much higher degree of automation in order to drive the cost down. Therefore, we have decided to initiate the project, the new Matas Logistics Center. It's a state-of-the-art warehouse, and we expect it to be located in Lynge, very near to our headquarter. We expect by 2025, we expect to have consolidated four of our existing warehouses on this location. We expect the building to be about 25,000 sq m, and it will be designed for automation, and it will be designed in a way so we can expand it if that's necessary in the future. If we take a look at the inside of the warehouse, we will design it in a way that it's channel independent, and that means that the capacity is fully flexible between online web orders and physical store orders.

We are not depending on a certain share of volume on one channel. It's fully flexible. We will have a strong focus on the sustainability when we build the building and also in the operation afterwards. We will work with a high degree of automation. We will have machine for picking, we will have machines for packing, and we will also have a high-performing and well-proven shuttle system in our warehouse. We will also have an advanced box storage system. When we look at the products that we have in Matas, it fits perfectly into a box storage system. That's of course why we chose it. All right. Let's look into some details about the future performance. Let's start by the storage capacity. If we look a few years back, we had the maximum capacity of about 20,000 products in our warehouse.

If we look at 2022, 2023, we expect the maximum capacity to be around 70,000 products in our warehouses. This is a very big increase, and it is quite impressive in a few years. However, it's not enough. We need a step change in order to support the future strategy. We have designed the Matas Logistics Center to be able to have no less than 150,000 products. Furthermore, it will be possible to scale it up to 500,000 products on the same location. All right. Let's look at the order execution capacity, and that means how many web orders can we ship out of the warehouse every day. A few years ago, we only had the capacity of sending out 7,000 web orders per day. If we look at the expected 2022, 2023, we expect no more than 50,000 web orders.

It is still a very impressive increase. Again, it's not enough. If we want to support the future growth strategy, we need a step change. Therefore, we have designed the Matas Logistics Center to be able to ship out more than 100,000 web orders per day. We will also have the possibility to scale it up to 300,000 web orders per day. When we look at the high degree of automation, we will also see a step change in the operating cost. We expect a 50% reduction in the staff cost for web orders. With the increasing share of web orders, of course, this will have a very important effect on the future margins. All right. Finally, let's have a look at the CapEx investments and some of the benefits. The Matas Logistics Center requires a quite significant investment on about DKK 500 million.

The investment is for the acquisitions of land, building, and machines. Of course, it's a very big investment, but the benefits are also very significant. We expect a 1.0%-1.5% EBITDA margin improvement effect from the new Matas Logistics Center. That, of course, is mainly coming from reductions in the staff cost for web orders, and that will have a huge effect on our margins in the future. If we look at the capacity and this Matas Logistics Center will enable us to fulfill our strategy, and we will be able to, as I mentioned, to have more than 150,000 products in the warehouse, and we will be able to ship out more than 100,000 orders per day. We will have the possibility to have a very strong focus on speed to customers, and we will also make sure that we run a very sustainable operation. All right.

I hope this presentation have shown how the Matas Logistics Center provide a really step change for logistics, and also how the Matas Logistics Center will be a key fueling element in the future strategy or for the future strategy in Matas. Thank you.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you, Brian. It's a big job you're taking on here. My takeaway here is that we are building a big house. We are building a house that is capable of supporting the growth ambitions that we have set forward, supporting the expansion of our range, supporting our ambition to be super fast on delivery, and supporting our ambition to be an efficient operator and modern operator. We use proven technology, we're not threading into completely uncharted territory here. This is what it takes to bring Matas into the next generation from an operational point of view. Now my good colleague, Anders, has joined me. Anders, who probably needs no introduction as CFO of the company for many years, will take you through the financial ambitions.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

Thank you, Gregers, and thank you to the rest of the management team for the very interesting presentations. Let me begin this section, which focuses on the financial ambitions of our new strategy by making it clear to you that we believe that the Growing Matas Group strategy that you've just been presented with, combined with our strong omni-channel business model, will position Matas really well for long-term and profitable growth. As Gregers has already revealed, we are working towards two key financial targets by 2025, 2026. A revenue of at least DKK 5 billion, and a solid EBITDA margin of between 17% and 18%. To reach these targets, we expect CapEx over the strategy period, so that's including this financial year and the years up to and including 2025, 2026.

We expect that to be realized in the range of DKK 1 billion-DKK 1.3 billion, with the establishment of the Matas Logistics Center that you just heard about being the biggest single investment, of course. In the coming few minutes, I will try to add a little more color to this financial guidance. On the revenue side, our growth ambition is to reach, as I said, at least DKK 5 billion by 2025, 2026. Growth will primarily be driven by our online channels, and we expect our flagship, that is matas.dk, to be the main contributor in helping to double online sales. As you can see, we expect our physical stores to lose sales over the strategy period, in part due to store consolidation. I can, however, reassure you that Christian will do his level best to prove us wrong on especially this one.

We also expect Firtal to continue on their present growth journey, albeit at a more moderate pace. Finally, we are looking to expand our sales in the new acquisition of Web Sundhed. I would like to point out to you that this revenue growth target is purely organic and is expected to be delivered without significant international sales. We are confident in this organic and indeed domestic revenue target. We expect to make good use of what we believe will be continued growth above GDP in the health and beauty market, while we, at the same time, will see a situation where there's a lot of headroom for Matas to increase our market share in multiple categories as we are well-positioned to benefit from a continued online shift in demand.

With regards to our earnings ambitions, well, we think we'll reach our revenue target while maintaining a solid EBITDA margin of between 17% and 18% by 2025, 2026. As shown here, the growth in earnings will be driven by a number of factors. A growing top line will naturally create earnings as the underlying business remains both healthy, robust, and profitable. A significant positive impact will come, as Brian talked about just a few minutes ago, from the establishment of our new Matas Logistics Center, which on a standalone basis, is expected to add more than 1% to the EBITDA margin. In addition, we also see further scale advantages from matas.dk as the business grows. Finally, we expect earnings to go up due to an increase in the role our house brands play in the business overall and over the strategy period.

As you can see, we expect all of these positive drivers to leave a substantial headroom, some of which we expect to use to respond to the increased competition we're seeing and also to fuel further growth. The end will be a Matas in 2025, 2026, which has a turnover well above today, but maintains a strong profitability, as I said, with 17%-18% of EBITDA margin. Now naturally, there's risks, and there are risks when you go forward, and there are risks in any kind of plan and any kind of ambition. In the coming years, we foresee three major risk areas. At the same time, we believe that we will be able to limit the damage they may cause due to our underlying strong business model and the decisive mitigating actions that we will be able to implement.

An obvious risk is increased competition from multiple angles, but of course, foremost from online competitors, an increased competition which could pressure the price perception of Matas and the margins. This is a risk that we believe is likely to manifest itself at least to some degree. Based on our historical experience, we are convinced that our strong omnichannel and brand owner business model will protect us and limit the damages. However, let me remind you that we have explicitly taken this risk into account in our financial visions. Naturally, Matas doesn't operate on a desert island, and thus we are also subject to potential macroeconomic setbacks. Any such setbacks will, of course, affect the entire industry, but based on what we've seen over previous cycles, we remain firm in our belief that the health and beauty market will, in itself, show strong resilience to such economic cycles.

In addition, Matas in particular will be protected by our broad assortment, which ensures that Matas stays relevant for the customers in both up and downturns, and we've seen this demonstrated time and time again. Finally, we are fully aware that in the medium term we are increasing our operational risk by establishing the new Matas Logistics Center. Greg has mentioned it already, it is a very big and very important investment for Matas, and as such, it is good. It will drive efficiency gains and scale advantages. However, as is always the case, such projects entail risks. We would like to point out, just again, point out that Matas will be implementing proven and tested technologies.

We are not going to be moving on the cutting edge, and we will also make sure to monitor the process very closely, and we will not, I say, transition to the new warehouse before we assure that everything works as planned. Given the significant investments that we're just talking about and the journey that we are to embark on, it's only natural to ask the question, how is the financing going to look like? Well, we expect Matas' underlying operations to continue producing strong cash flows throughout the period, driven by our stable and strong earnings. CapEx obviously will be high in the first part of the strategy period due to the building of the new Matas Logistics Center, but will decline significantly towards 2025, 2026 and reach a more stable level of between 3% and 4% of sales.

Working capital is expected to remain fairly stable, seen as a percentage of sales throughout the strategy period. This in spite of the range expansion that we've been talking about. The burden on working capital is expected to be limited because the range expansion will be online only. While stock levels at our more than 260 stores are expected to be lower as store consolidation progresses. Let me leave you with some thoughts on our capital allocation towards 2025, 2026. We will make sure that Matas remains financially sound by keeping our debt level in check and maintain a gearing level of between two and three. That is not to say that the gearing level cannot exceed three for shorter periods of time, but the target remains a gearing of between two and three.

We will, of course, as we've talked about, invest heavily in the business to enable our medium and long-term growth. As mentioned, we will be spending between DKK 1 billion and DKK 1.3 billion of CapEx in the period, driven in part by the Matas Logistics Center, but also by the continued digitalization of both our on and offline activities. We will, I think Greg has already mentioned this, we will continue to maintain and refresh our stores, but more CapEx-intensive concept upgrades will only really be relevant when we are consolidating stores, when we are expanding stores significantly, or when we are opening brand-new stores. Finally, we will distribute at least 20% of adjusted net profit after tax annually, subject, of course, to maintaining our gearing target and any perceived near-term risks. With these words, I will hand you back to Gregers for some concluding remarks.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Thank you, Anders. The key takeaway, of course, is that we can finance our growth ambitions on our own, and that we have a solid business throughout the strategy journey, and that is a very good point of departure for a new strategy. Closing remarks, what is our strategy? It is a profitable growth strategy where we aim to remain and even build our number one position in the market vis-à-vis the customers. We aim to offer the broadest assortment and the most attractive assortment, both offline and online. We aim to be number one in the online space and build on that impressive journey that we've been on for the last few years. We aim to refresh our stores and connect them even more to our digital business. We aim to integrate more vertically and build a bigger portfolio of house brands that nobody else can carry.

We are going to take a generational step change in our logistics to support all of this. The phasing of that, on the commercial part, you have already heard Lise say that we will waste no time in getting started. Actually, in the coming weeks, you will see the first couple of initiatives taken to market, and then gradually over the next few years, you will see an expansion of our assortment, particularly in the health area, and then ultimately an option and possibility to enter new categories, not all over the place, but related to the Matas brand and the Matas customer base. On E-Commerce, it is going to be a continuous journey of growing the platforms we have and really marketing the new assortment and making the customers aware that now they can use Matas for even more.

Our stores, where the agenda will be to connect and consolidate the store network, in particular, broadening out those digital best practices. For our brands, we will start out by building our brand portfolio and increasing the level of competence to be a good brand owner, then we will try out our initiative to open the door to the world. If demand is out there, we will be ready to scale to meet that demand. Finally, on logistics, we have a logistics setup that is capable to carry us through the next couple of years while we build the Matas Logistics Center. It's a limited risk operation. We don't foresee any disruptions to our existing business, and we have capacity to grow for the coming years. We are not under significant time pressure.

Of course, the main thing here is the building and the opening of the Matas Logistics Center. What does this sum up to as an investment case? What you get if you invest in Matas? Well, you buy into a case where the digitalization of health and beauty will drive profitable growth. The fact that we have a very strong foundation already. Really, our story is to leverage our historical strength, which has actually become even stronger over the last few years, to drive profitable digital growth. We address a market that is in its nature around DKK 13 billion. That is without prescription, which we're not allowed to sell, are growing above GDP in a non-cyclical market with low pressure on commoditization and with an underlying growth, in particular in health, that we think will be strong.

We come from a position as the absolute market leader, I will not go through those numbers once again, but just highlight that we are now well-positioned to benefit from an online shift. It's a position that we don't only have in our own health and beauty market, but also overall as one of the, or the second-most used webshop across all categories in Denmark. We have a strong financial position. We can finance our growth on ourselves, We see positive scale effects of our initiatives going forward and a good headroom for addressing eventual competitors and launching new initiatives. Then I hope that with this presentation, you also get the impression that we have a leadership team with a very proven track record at Matas or outside of Matas who will be able to drive this journey to its conclusion.

The opportunity here is to grow towards DKK 5 billion in revenues by expanding the range, winning market share in selected categories, and becoming the preferred non-prescription health destination. We believe we can maintain profitability around 7%-18% due to online scale effects, gradual store consolidation, and the effect of connecting the stores, vertical integration that is becoming more of a brand owner, automating our logistics, and continuing the track record that we have of being disciplined about always running cost improvement projects. The ticket size for this is a CapEx investment of DKK 1 billion-DKK 1.3 billion in the coming years, which is basically the same run rate investment for the business that we have had, and then adding on top the DKK 500 million investment in the Matas Logistics Center.

As Anders mentioned, we have a capital allocation policy to distribute more than 20% of adjusted net profit after tax to shareholders. What is not in the financial ambition is the options beyond 2025 to expand further into more categories to see a real breakthrough of our international export initiative or even a major bolt-on or adjacency M&A. That is not part of the long-term target that we have given. Finally, as Matas becomes more health-oriented, we believe that we can gain access to more male target groups. Matas, as it is today, is not particularly relevant to men, but this is an option for the long term if we succeed on this journey, and when we succeed on this journey. With that, we conclude our presentation from myself, Anders, and the rest of the management team, and we're now happy to take any questions.

Anders and I will be answering as best as we can.

Operator

Just a reminder if you do wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, you may do so by pressing zero two. We have a question from the line of Magnus Jensen from SEB. Please go ahead.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Thank you very much. Sorry about that. I have a number of questions that I would like to ask. By the way, thank you for a very thorough and interesting presentation. My first question is to Anders on the margin. I understand that you're targeting 17%-18% in 2025, 2026. What's the journey towards that? What should we expect in between? You don't have to guide for each and every year, of course. Is it going to be slightly going down from where we are today, or what kind of development should we expect?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. Magnus, we probably guessed that either you or someone else would ask that question. I think the long-term ambition here, as you have seen is composed of a lot of initiatives that improve margin and then headroom to fight off competition, to invest in growth, to invest in entering new categories. We don't give a year-by-year guidance. We have decided to stay with our current practice of guiding every year because the margin will reflect the number and scale of new initiatives. It will reflect the intensity of the competition, market needs, economic cycles. We think we know our business model well.

We know the effect of our initiatives. We believe that it's a super solid plan that is capable with the proof that we have given you and we have seen ourselves over the last few years that the omni-channel model can deliver real strong profitability. We believe that this is an achievable and realistic goal. As to the finer details of the journey of getting there, I'm afraid we can't help.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Fair enough. Thank you, Gregers. It's a significant expansion of number of products clearly. Is there a risk of having too many products on your website? Basically confusing the end consumer with too much of a choice. Have you got any thoughts about this?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah, that's a very good point. You should not expect us to do like, let's get to 150 as fast as possible. You should expect us to do what we have indicated today, namely, to do drops of new assortment that we make sure to really market, because this is as much an assortment game as it is a marketing game. I think that's where you really have to take into account that Matas has this position of reaching 1.8 unique people every month with the media bandwidth that we have. This is assortment plus marketing, and we will make sure that when we introduce new assortment, when we have to educate the customer, that now she can use Matas for something new. It's really also a marketing game. That's why you will not see us just chasing the 150 target blindly.

You will see us introduce new categories, building awareness, building the interest, seeing the performance, culling what doesn't work, adding and expanding on what does work. That is very much in line with how we've been working over the last few years as well.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Thank you. Very clear. A question to sort of your online business. Matas is going to be clearly the most important driver, Firtal also benefiting and Webapoteket. Do you include other sort of online outlets in your guidance? Firtal could add other sites or how about that?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

We have successfully bolted on a couple of minor acquisitions to Firtal. That is still in our strategy to do M&A that will accelerate our journey and get it in the right direction. As for our DKK 5 billion guidance, it doesn't require significant scale M&A. We might see smaller opportunities that will help us win a year or two in executing parts of the strategy, and we're open to doing that. Having seen the success of Firtal and our ability to bolt on to Firtal, having seen what we can do with brands like Nilens Jord, I think we know what we should do and not do to accelerate.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Thank you. Just one final question before I jump back in the queue. Michael talked about launching products outside Denmark, which obviously sounds very interesting. What thoughts have you done in terms of how to distribute your products outside Denmark?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. This is early days, and we are really setting ourselves up to respond to a demand that we have had over the years. We've had requests, I think, for as long as Matas has existed.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

Very long time.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

There's been people saying, oh, you're doing something in Denmark, something in the Nordics that's interesting. We've only seen those trends of sustainability, of pure beauty, of Scandinavian aesthetic, Nordic values. We've only seen that demand increase. At some point, the noise becomes so interesting that you think we should set ourselves up to try this out. Now we're making a serious commitment in terms of getting the right people on board, getting the competencies. It's not a huge financial commitment. Even if we don't succeed outside of Denmark, it will benefit our local business. As for distribution, we're quite open. We think that digital is going to be the main way to get our products out, but we have had interest from conventional retailers as well. We don't have a set preference. We will follow demand and follow through on demand.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Okay. I think I heard you say that the international sales is not really part of your + DKK 5 billion target.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

That's important. You don't have to believe in obviously, we believe that we can make headway internationally, otherwise we wouldn't have done what we're doing. You don't have to believe in the international part of this equity story today to believe in the DKK 5 billion. That's the Danish story.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Cool. Thank you. I have a couple more, but I'll jump back in the queue and let others have the chance to ask.

Operator

Just as a final reminder, if you do wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from the line of Poul Jessen from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

It is. Thank you, also thank you for a good presentation. I would like to start by the EBITDA margin. You guide 17.5%-18.5% for this year, then 17%-18% long term. That means a contraction of 0.5%. At the same time, you indicate the benefits of 1%-1.5% on the new warehouse. That means total additional cost of 1.5%-2%, if we exclude these two. Can you say something if where they are going, is that the headroom you are having? Is it lower gross margin? Is it marketing? Which kind of lines should we look at to add those costs? Thank you.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

We have bundled it under the heading Headroom for Competitive Response, which could be gross margin effective, but also our headroom to do growth investments. If we enter a new category, we have to build awareness for Matas now offering new categories. Obviously we would have to support that in the beginning with promotions, with a marketing effort, and in the ramp-up phase, accept lower earnings on building those new categories. Still, we have the advantage that we don't have to spend what is usually the biggest cost in doing those things, namely acquiring the customers, because we already have the customers. It is really a combination, Poul, and we bundle it together to say, okay, we don't know exactly how the next five years are going to play out.

There might be areas where we should really spend money on fighting new competitors and making sure to adapt the business, but also with headroom to enter new growth areas.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

You can say that, as you point out, the initiatives that we have, they all point in the right direction, leaving headroom to address the world that's coming and our own ambitions.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

It's not because the new product categories would have lower margin, it's more to have the headroom to follow competition down on prices.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

There might be some of them that have slightly lower gross margins. As Gregers points out, it is a mixture of a lot of things. Some of it will be things that we do, some of it will be based on what the market develops. Yes, we're doing a lot of good things and we are creating the headroom, but we'd be, to be honest, fairly naive to think that we wouldn't need to spend some of that headroom with regards to the competitive pressure that we're seeing going forward. Also, frankly, we are still moving ahead with moving a part of the turnover from the physical stores to online. That, of course, also entails some risks on the gross margin side.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

On the CapEx side, DKK 1 billion-DKK 1.3 billion, if I subtract the DKK 500 million for the warehouse, then it's DKK 500-DKK 800. Over five years, that's DKK 100-DKK 160 a year. I think in the past when it was more normalized, we were below DKK 100 every year. This increase to move above DKK 100, is that the upgrade of the stores? Is it IT investments, or? Is this the level we should look for on the really long term?

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

First of all, I think what you should really look for is the 3%-4% of sales that we're talking about as being the long term, sort of where we see investments. Frankly, Poul, I don't know how the world's going to look in five years. Neither do you, neither does anybody else. There's a risk in this. There's no doubt that you are seeing, and what you've been seeing over the last years, is that we've been moving to a world where we do spend more CapEx on the digital side of things. I think I've talked to you about this before. The generations of IT systems is actually moving, but becoming shorter. Not necessarily something I love as a CFO, but it's the real world. We are also seeing that we have to spend somewhat more on IT.

As I think we mentioned on several occasions, we will be working with our stores, we will not be going through this big concept upgrade. We will do it in a more intelligent way and making sure that the stores stay relevant. We're not trying to hide some kind of big upgrades in the stores portion of investments. CapEx, sorry.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay. The other side of the calculation is depreciation is just to move below your EBITDA. How should we look at those going forward? I'm thinking, should we look for depreciation on the new warehouse when it's really completed and up and running, and when would that be?

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

Well, yeah. That's a good question, of course. We don't have a specific date as of yet. I think we just talked about, we are damn sure it's going to be up and running by Black Friday in 2024, hopefully before that. Obviously there will be an increase in the depreciations as we go along. We have not as yet specified exactly how we're going to depreciate. What I can tell you, we're not going to depreciate the land. We never do that. We're probably going to depreciate the physical buildings over a fairly long period. As to the machinery and so forth and so on, we haven't actually discussed that yet. We're still in a fairly early phase. This, of course, is going to be increased depreciation. That goes without saying.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay. My final question is on the high-end beauty market. You've had a high market share for a very long time. You now disclose it's 55%-65%, if we exclude the haircare. In both that and in the mass beauty, shouldn't we just expect that you grow with the market in those categories because it would be tough to increase shares there?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. That's probably guiding on too many specifics because there are so many moving parts, and there is also a dynamic that we haven't talked about. We're seeing a premiumization of the mass beauty area, and we're seeing more selectivity in the mass beauty area as well. I think to guide specifically on the different categories would be outdated soon, because there's so much dynamic going on in that area.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

I also think that one of the things that we're trying to demonstrate here is that, yes, if you look at selective high-end on a general scale, yes, of course we're not going to go to 85% market share. That's not going to happen. We're not unrealistic. There are pockets within that area. A very good example of that is professional haircare. We are nowhere in professional haircare, and we should be a big player in professional haircare. There's absolutely a lot of room for us to expand our market position. That doesn't mean that we're going to expand our market position across the board, or we're going to sell a heck of a lot more, relatively more perfumes. There are pockets out there.

There are areas where we actually have not been anywhere close to a market share that reflects the overall market share of the business. The picture is just a little more, I should say, complicated or differentiated than that.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

The final question on the high-end beauty. In the past, you had to have a store to be in high-end beauty. You needed to have a hairdresser or service to be in the high-end haircare. You can do it with an online consultancy in the haircare. Is it moving in a way that in a few years, we should see that hypermarkets and others could go into the high-end by launching an online service within their online stores, and thereby be able to sell the high-end beauty brands directly? Do you still believe that that is no-go so far?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

It would be a quite significant departure from how the high-end brands have operated for many years. What we are seeing right now is that they're becoming very clear about selectivity online, whereas they've been super clear about what you need to do in the store. They've been more like something is going on in the digital space. They know that their ability to build their brands, protect their premiums, is just completely linked to where they're distributed online. What we're seeing is actually a tightening of requirements and restrictions to be able to carry the high-end brands. We're also seeing the major brand owners becoming much more disciplined about gray market and parallel imports and being more sophisticated about that because they know that that's one of the greatest threats to their business.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

I think it's very, very important to understand that. What we're seeing really is that they're becoming more professional about their digital distribution, which as Gregers has pointed out, it was a bit of a strange creature for them just a few years back. They've really moved a lot, and they've moved very quickly. In that respect, I think that's an advantage for us because we are the professionals. We are the kind of people they want to work with. The last thing Chanel would want was to Bilka or whoever else to have a small part of their online store suddenly present themselves as being, oh, and by the way, we're also high-end purveyors of Chanel products. That's simply not going to happen. They would hate that just as much as having their products physically displayed besides the washing powder in a Bilka store.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Magnus Jensen from SEB. Please go ahead.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Thanks. Thank you. Just have a couple of more questions. First, you say that you can sort of do around 70,000 deliveries a day in two years' time. What level are you at today in terms of web orders today?

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

The thing is that the web is interesting as far as on everyday basis, we have loads of capacity, and we have absolutely no problems. We can even run big campaigns and have no problems. There's basically just a very few days a year around Black Friday and perhaps up to and including Christmas, where you need to be able to expand your capacity quite significantly. We're not going to go in here and say, oh, by the way, our hard cap at the moment is X, Y, or Z. That would be very commercially sensitive, and we're not going to do that. We will point out that we think we have put in enough investment in our existing setup in order to accommodate for the growth that we foresee over the next couple of years. That's the important part for you to understand.

Secondly, I think there's another small point that sort of hides here, and that is the fact that there's a lot of bad things to be said about this more, how should I say this, more manual process. There is one advantage to it, however. It means that we have a lot more flexibility. We don't have a hard cap. One of the issues that you're going to run into with a fully automated system, now we're going to build one that's big enough so that we're not going to run into this, but you can run into the problems. If you underestimate your growth rates, then you will suddenly run into hard caps on your capacity. I know for a fact that Boozt, they were talking about this. This is a real problem. One of the things we do have is a lot of flexibility.

we have been expanding. Not to make a fuss of it, we just expanded our warehouse up in Humlebæk by another 2,000 sq m in order to be sure that we're not suddenly going to be rushed into something because we don't have enough capacity.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

We don't have a gap problem between what we do now and what we expect to be doing at the MLC. Also last year, Black Friday is always the test bed for what we're saying right now, Anders and I. I have to remind that last year we had to do a Black Friday where there was significant restrictions on store traffic. People had to wear masks, all these things. We're well-trained in those peak days. As Anders says, the advantage of what we're doing now is it's super flexible.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Very clear. Thanks. Then to Christian's presentation on the physical stores. You talked about sort of the connected stores performing much better than, or better at least, than the average store. How many of your stores are connected stores today, and how many is able to become connected stores? I guess some maybe it wouldn't make too much sense. Could you give some flavor on this?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. The slide that Christian talked to, you remember it had a lot of digital features, it's only quite few stores where we have all of those features implemented to the full degree, because really the last three years have been about experimentation. What we do is we want to test something out, we take 20 stores, we say, let's try this. We see how it works, then we roll out. What you're seeing from Christian is really the sum of those experiments that have gone well, that we think a store in the future will be able to serve the customer with. There's, I'm afraid, no answer that you can use for modeling for these purposes other than to say that we're damn sure that there is a potential in rolling out the connected store concept to all our stores.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Okay. Yeah.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

No, this is really-

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Yeah.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Sorry, go ahead.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

No. Yeah, just saying that it sounds like that there is a really good potential in doing this.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yes.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

My final question, in terms of, you talked about doing your own brands. How many are you thinking that you can handle, or is there a limit to this? What kind of thoughts have you done in terms of increasing your share and number of own brands?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. You'll notice when you reread Michael section, there are not a lot of numbers in there. This has to do with the fact that we think we are going to have to do things differently from the way we have built brand historically. It's even in the name that it used to be that as a retailer you would have private label. A product that has the same specs as someone else, just a bit cheaper and not branded. We want to be a brand owner, and that's actually a different game because it requires that we become good marketeers, that we treat our own products as brands and not just as something to put on the shelf. There is going to be a journey here. We started that journey with the acquisition of Kosmolet.

We have a lot of in-house brands already that we can ramp up and build awareness and turn into stronger brands. Then as Michael went through and with the initiative of Grænn, we also strive to do this in partnership with beauty entrepreneurs, with established brands who want to grow, with established brands who are already well rolled out in Denmark but would like a partnership to go outside of Denmark as well. No numbers, but I hope a very clear direction that this is going to be a more significant part of our business in the future.

Magnus Jensen
Analyst, SEB

Okay. Thank you, Gregers, and thank you, yeah, all for this, for a really good day. Thank you. I have no more questions. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Claus Almer from Nordea. Please go ahead.

Claus Almer
Analyst, Nordea

Thank you. Yeah, I have a few questions. I'll take them one- by- one. The first question goes to your DKK 5 billion revenue target. I guess that includes around a 4% average revenue growth assumption, which probably is above the underlying market growth. I hope I'm correct on that assumption. Do you agree?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Math. Yeah, I'm sure you can do your math. You trust your math.

Claus Almer
Analyst, Nordea

Yeah. Okay. If that's the case, I understand that you are moving into new categories, et cetera. Still, when you're taking market share, someone is going to lose market share. Who do you think will be the ones losing market shares? Obviously I'm not talking about specific names, but more types of competitors. That would be the first question.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah, I think that's the wrong time and place to be answering that question, because obviously when we enter new categories, when we do new bets, the first ones to hear about it will be the consumers and not competitors. We can't really point out and say, these people are going to lose market share. These people are going to lose market share. As Lise mentioned, we think there is room in professional haircare immediately because we haven't had it on the shelves, and people, our customers, they're asking for it. We think there is room in non-prescription health, where we are well-positioned to win a portion of that market. There might be other stuff that we can also go for.

Claus Almer
Analyst, Nordea

The way of thinking, and sorry if you have already mentioned this, but the way of thinking is that the market growth and the market share gain is mostly all about moving into new categories.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

I think it's fair to say that this plan is not based on Matas just winning market shares in our existing categories. This is a strategy of growing through a wider assortment, both in our existing core categories but also in adjacent categories. It's not just that we believe, oh, despite more competition we will be able to win market share in existing business or existing markets and sub-markets.

Anders Skole-Sørensen
CFO, Matas

Right. Just to be concrete here, we're talking about professional haircare. Obviously, we think we're going to steal some of the cheese from the hairdressers. That's clearly because we think we're more professional, and also, frankly, after having spent a lot of time, long time with our suppliers, they've actually really come to the same realization that we are more professional. That's, if you just want an example, that's an obvious example of somebody from whom we surely expect to steal market share in a market that is, yes, it is selective, yes, it's where we are already, but it is a sub-market where we are not present.

I think, again, let me just come back to that and say there are lots of niches, there are lots of small sub-markets where we are actually not represented in the right way and where we think there's lots of opportunities. You can call that a category expansion if you want, but it's still within areas that are relevant to Matas. We are, as we usually joke about, we're not starting to sell bicycles.

Claus Almer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. The second question goes to more broad-based online sales, and it appears like health and beauty products have a lower price sensitivity than we see in many other industries. Have you looked into this? What's the key reasons? Is it the average basket size? Is people want to buy close by, not from an online or outside Denmark? Is website set up and so on?

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

It's a combination of all those factors, including the fact that, and we see this in food as well, this is something that's super close to the body. It's something that you want to be perfectly sure that whatever you're using, that there is a trusted partner selling this to you. Even though you do price comparisons and you find that perfume or that skincare brand on a site you don't know, you'd have to have pretty high-risk appetite to buy it elsewhere than someone you really trust. Then there are all these other issues that you mentioned, Claus. Advice is super important. Exclusivity, newness. We have a quite high turnover in what products are selling every year, and brands are really aware that when they launch the new ranges and series and sub-brands, they want to do it with professional partners, professional retailers.

There is a lot of protection against commoditization in this particular industry, and the same goes for health. Obviously, it's a trust game, and this is one thing that Matas has built over more than 70 years, is the trust of the consumer.

Claus Almer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks so much.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Poul Jessen from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Thank you. I have a more overall question now that you have the new strategy where it is clear that you want to sell more to the existing customers. I was just wondering if you would or will not give any insight into the thoughts behind it? I was just thinking you could have taken the other, maybe more international? You could have set up the Matas online store should also be a .de or .se. Is it just because of focus and the easy fruits on your doorstep, relatively seen, that made you decide for this direction or yeah? Just to hear a little about the thoughts behind on not going that direction.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Yeah. What you mention, the examples that you mentioned, I would not consider that to say something it's out of scope for Matas. We will never do that. We think there's such an obvious opportunity right now to leverage what we have built over the last years and really open the easy door first, as you say, and really build on what we have instead of doing something that is more risky, more speculative. You're quite right in pointing out that this is not the end of the future Matas to do just what we've said today. We will continue to do what we've done over the last three years, have little experiments running of things that we're doing, and if we see them catching on, then maybe it's a headline in the next strategy or a future strategy update.

Really, one takeaway from this day, the new Matas, the Matas that we've built over the few years that got a boost from COVID, it is well-positioned to grow sustainably. It has more business develop opportunities, and not speculative ones, but ones that are right in front of us.

Poul Jessen
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay. That's good. Thank you. That's all for me.

Operator

As there are no further questions, I'll hand it back to the speakers.

Gregers Wedell-Wedellsborg
CEO, Matas

Okay. Thank you all for joining for our Capital Markets Day. We have a simple strategy. It's a bold strategy. I hope that after this presentation, you also leave with the impression that it's a very solid strategy, that we have concrete actions behind the strategy to grow towards DKK 5 billion in 2025, 2026. We're not going to waste a lot of time getting going. In the next couple of weeks, you will see the first of our initiatives go to market. Please stay tuned, and we will see you at our next event. Thank you, operator. Thank you for today.

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