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Earnings Call: H1 2025

Jul 31, 2025

Pamela Antay
SVP of Investor Relations, Azelis

Good day and welcome to Azelis 's First Half Year 2025 Update call. With us today is Anna Bertona, Group CEO, who will give high-level insights into our progress in the first half of the year. Thijs Bakker, Group CFO, will take us through the numbers for the period. As a reminder, this presentation may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risk. We will open the call for Q&A after the presentation, but until then, you will be on listen-only mode. I will now hand you over to Anna. Anna?

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Thanks, Pam, and good day, everyone. Thank you for dialing in today. I understand from Pam that most of you are very busy with multiple companies issuing their results this week, and especially today, so we will be sharp and efficient. Let's start immediately on the next slide. I want to begin with the most important messages based on our progress in the first half of 2025. First, we see areas of growth across our business, even as volatility has increased throughout the past four months. This is reflected in organic revenue growth, staying in positive territory for the first half of the year. As you may have seen from the half-year report, our positive results in EMEA offset the slowdown in the U.S. in the second quarter and the ongoing pressure in APAC.

I will go through the trends across end markets and regions on a later slide, highlighting the benefit of our diverse global footprint. Second, as the market becomes more challenging, the resilience of our business model becomes more evident. This is demonstrated in the higher cash flows, even as the impact of our cost-saving measures is not yet fully reflected in the results of the first half year. The last and key point is this: the market is going through some temporary challenges, mostly driven by trade discussions and geopolitical issues. The fundamentals of the industry are intact, and the long-term drivers remain attractive. As I said before, volatility is here to stay, and it creates opportunities for global distributors like Azelis , who have the right portfolio and technical capabilities.

Now more than ever, customers rely on us to reformulate or provide innovative solutions to help them address the market challenges or supply chain disruptions. Principals continue to need a strong partner to grow their business, even more now that they are restructuring and refocusing on their core. Our diversified footprint allows us to capture growth in some end markets or regions to offset temporary weaknesses elsewhere. I'm confident that we are taking the right course of action to navigate these temporary challenges and have the right strategy to achieve our long-term objectives. Now let's move to the results of H1 2025 on the next slide. In the first half of the year, we achieved a revenue of EUR 2.2 billion, a 3.3% increase over the prior year in constant currency. Organic growth for the first half was 1.2% despite the slowdown, specifically in the U.S. in the second quarter.

Our gross profit in H1 was EUR 515 million, which is broadly stable versus last year on a constant currency basis. The gross margin contraction during the period was due to negative mix effects from higher contribution from industrial chemicals, as well as from recent acquisitions, emerging markets, and increasing competitive pressures in Southeast Asia. Adjusted EBITDA came in at EUR 234 million and resulted in an EBITDA margin of 10.9% and a conversion margin of 45.5%. The contraction in our profit margin reflects only a limited impact from our cost savings measures, as the benefits will come in the second half of the year, while we already absorbed the salary cost inflation for 2025. We generated EUR 151 million in free cash flow, resulting in an 11 percentage points increase in our cash conversion ratio.

We ended June with a leverage of 3.1x due to slower organic EBITDA development, as well as a peak in deferred payments in H1. We remain committed to our deleveraging policy, and we expect to manage this back to our stated range of 2.5x- 3x. Now let's look at some of the drivers of the results on the next slide. Overall, we saw that life sciences was stable, while in industrial chemicals, we saw a slight recovery in the first half of the year. On life sciences, we can comment this. There was a strong momentum in Pharma. Food and nutrition was positive in the U.S., stable in EMEA, offset by a weak food market in APAC. Agri recovery in EMEA continued throughout the first six months, but in the U.S. was weak. Personal Care was positive in EMEA, but continued to see headwinds in the U.S. and APAC.

We saw a mixed picture in CASE and advanced materials and additives, with stronger performance in EMEA offsetting weaker U.S. and APAC. For lubricants, metalwork, and fluids, we saw positive momentum except in the U.S. On a regional basis, EMEA saw a positive momentum across end markets in the first half of the year, both in life sciences and industrial chemicals. In the U.S., we saw a shift in sentiments, and the shift that we saw earlier in the year continued throughout Q2. Uncertainty over the short-term economic outlook is weighing on consumer demands and resulting in our customers not wanting to build up stock and going back to much smaller and more frequent orders. Lastly, in APAC, we saw an uptick in competitive pressure across Southeast Asia, with increased supply from China.

In terms of inorganic growth, we are pacing our M&A and executing on only the most strategic acquisitions, while our leverage is at elevated levels. Solchem represents the missing piece in our offering in Spain and gives us access to the very lucrative domestic nutraceutical market. S Amit is a small balloon that complements our India business, and then with ACEF, Azelis creates by far the larger Personal Care distributor in Italy, providing skill benefits and synergies. Although we have an exciting pipeline, we are focused on managing our leverage to within the 2.5x and 3x range. I am confident that we will return to full M&A execution as soon as we have stabilized the balance sheet according to our leverage commitment.

Now, before I hand you over to Thijs to talk about the financial results in detail, I would like to take a moment to highlight our strategic growth accelerators: innovation, sustainability, and digital. You can wonder, why are we focused on these even when we face temporary challenges. We think these are very important elements that demonstrate our ability to provide solutions for our customers and principals, whatever their requirements are, and whatever the economic cycle is. This is how we create opportunity during times of volatility and uncertainty, and that's why we continue to invest in them. In the long term, these pillars strengthen the moat around our business. Now, why is innovation important? Customers rely on us for formulations and innovative solutions at all times. Currently, the focus is on addressing market challenges and supply chain disruptions.

Principals rely on us to grow their business by developing applications for their products. Why is sustainability important? We believe it's the right thing to do, and we play an important role in making the world a better place. It also makes economic sense. Reformulating for a more sustainable alternative is a revenue opportunity. Finally, digital, that's also very important. Why is that? Having the right IT and digital infrastructure makes it easier to develop digital tools, which are growth enablers and efficiency accelerators. We continue to focus on these strategic pillars across economic cycles, whether we are in growth mode or in more challenging markets. These efforts are recognized by the industry as shown by the awards we win every year. This year, we have received multiple awards already for our innovative solutions. We also have achieved an industry-leading MSCI ESG rating.

Some of you have already seen innovation at work at one of our labs, and we hope to see you in Hartford in September, where we will showcase our lab capabilities in the U.K. a s well as some of our digital tools. For now, I will hand you over to Thijs to talk more about the numbers.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Okay. Thank you, Anna. Good morning, everyone. As Anna already outlined during the business update, our diversified footprint and resilient business model continue to support us through a volatile environment. I will guide you through the group's financial performance and those of our regions for the first half year of 2025. Let's start with a high-level overview of the P&L and the drivers of our performance for the second quarter of 2025, the first half year, on page number 10. The group revenue for the first half year of 2025 reached EUR 2.2 billion, representing a year-on-year growth of 0.6% or 3.3% at constant currency. This reflects a 0.1% reported growth or 2.6% at constant currency delivered by our life sciences business, and a 1.5% reported growth or 4.6% at constant currency for industrial chemicals.

For the second quarter, revenue ended at EUR 1.1 billion, indicating a 3.1% year-on-year decline, driven by a 5.1% FX headwind, which offsets stable organic revenue growth and a 2.1% contribution from acquisitions. Gross profit for the first half year was EUR 550 million, representing a year-on-year decline of 2.2% or at constant FX rate, 0.3% growth. Gross profit as a percentage of revenue contracted by 68 basis points to 23.9%. This contraction was largely due to mix effect, as industrial chemicals, which tend to come with lower gross profit margin levels, grew faster than life sciences, as well as some dilution impact from recent acquisitions. For the first half of 2025, adjusted EBITDA came in at EUR 234.5 million, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 7.7% or 5.3% at constant currency, resulting in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 10.9%.

This decline was driven by higher operating costs, as the benefit from our cost-saving program is not yet fully reflected in our results. The cost mitigation program communicated at the first quarter results is well on track. We also accelerated, and Anna alluded already to that, our digital service investments, as seen in our holding costs and capital expenditures. The lower absolute EBITDA development resulted in a conversion margin of 45.5% compared to 48.2% in 2024. Net profit for the first half year was EUR 85 million, and I will discuss the drivers of the net profit in more detail in slide 13. Now let's take a look at the breakdown of our growth on slide 11. On this slide, we provide a high-level breakdown of revenue, gross profit, and adjusted EBITDA into organic growth, M&A, and FX. The breakdown by business provides insight into our regional diversification as well.

Organic revenue grew by 1.2% in the first half of 2025 and was broadly stable for the second quarter, with continued strong organic growth in EMEA, offsetting weaker performance in America and Asia-Pacific. Gross profit declined by 2.2%, driven by an organic decline of 1.8% and a 2.4% FX headwind, partially offset by a 2.1% growth contribution from recent acquisitions. In the second quarter, organic gross profit declined by 3% by mixed effects from higher growth contribution from industrial chemicals, emerging markets, as well as price pressure in Southeast Asia. Adjusted EBITDA for the first half was supported by contribution from recent acquisitions, partly mitigating the 7.9% decline in organic EBITDA and FX headwind. The organic EBITDA decline was most pronounced in absolute terms in EMEA and the Americas, driven by higher operating costs compared to prior year.

Please note that the benefit from our cost-saving initiatives is not fully reflected in the result for the period, as I said before. Our operating cost also came already down significantly quarter on quarter and is flat on prior year despite payroll inflation. We're back on track. Let's have a look at our regional financial performance on the next slide. In EMEA, which makes up 45% of our group revenue, revenue for the first half year came in at EUR 979 million, representing a year-on-year growth of 6.7% or 9% in constant currency. This was driven by organic revenue growth of 4.8% and revenue growth contribution from acquisitions of 4.2%, partially offset by 2.2% negative impact from FX headwind.

In the second quarter, revenue increased by almost 6% year- on- year, as organic growth accelerated to 5.1% as we aggressively pursued growth across most end markets in both life sciences and industrial chemicals. This underscores our commercial technical capabilities, as Anna said, and adapting solutions for ever-evolving end markets, even under challenging conditions. Gross profit in EMEA grew by 3.4% year- on- year or 5.2% in constant currency to EUR 249 million, translating to an 82 basis point contraction in gross profit margin to 25.4%. This is mainly driven by a mix shift towards industrial chemicals at almost twice the growth rate as life sciences, emerging market exposure as well, as these come typically both with a lower margin profile and lastly, dilution from recent acquisitions. Adjusted EBITDA decreased by 3.9% to EUR 123 million, resulting in a 139 basis point adjusted EBITDA margin contraction to 12.6%.

This is driven mainly by the aforementioned mix effects and also higher operating costs compared to prior year, as the benefit of these cost-saving actions in the regions are not fully reflected in the result yet. Furthermore, I can say that the region is well on track to deliver their cost-saving commitments. Turning to the Americas, which makes up 35% of our group revenue, revenue for the first half year ended at EUR 760 million, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 3.4% or 0.2% in constant currency. Organic revenue and M&A revenue growth contribution were broadly stable, while FX translation represented a negative impact of 3.2% as the euro strengthened versus the dollar. In the second quarter, revenue decreased by 9.5%, driven by FX headwind of 6.3% and an organic decline of 3.2%, reversing the organic growth achieved in the first quarter.

The organic revenue decline was driven by a mixed performance in life sciences, where we see continued strong performance in food and Pharma, offset by a softer Personal Care, which remains under pressure as consumer sentiment over the near-term economic outlook weighed on the demand. Our industrial chemicals businesses in the Americas were broadly stable during the quarter. Gross profit in the region declined by 6% to EUR 182 million, with a 67 basis point contraction in gross profit margin to 23.9%. The margin contraction is mainly driven by mix effects across the businesses in the region, with higher contribution from industrial chemicals and Latin America, which come at lower margin levels. Adjusted EBITDA declined by 10.6% to EUR 88 million, driving adjusted EBITDA margin to 11.6%. The 93 basis point contraction was mainly due to softer top line in gross profit and dilution from our less mature Latin America business.

The results, similarly like EMEA, only reflect limited impact from recently enacted cost measures, which were executed in May-June. The lower adjusted EBITDA resulted in a conversion margin of 48.4% in H1 2025. Also, America is on track on delivering these savings. Lastly, Asia-Pacific. Revenue declined by 4.9% to EUR 420 million, driven by an organic decline of 3.6%, FX headwinds of 2.7%, partially offset by revenue growth contribution from acquisitions of 1.5%. In the second quarter, revenue decreased by 9.1%, driven mainly by FX headwind of 5.2% and organic decline of 5%. The organic revenue decline was driven by slowing volumes in Southeast Asia, continued weakness in Australia and New Zealand, residual impact of our portfolio optimization program in the region, while China is bottoming out. Gross profit in Asia-Pacific declined by 8.5% to EUR 84 million, representing a gross profit margin of 20.1%.

The 80 basis points gross profit margin contraction reflects negative volume, negative mix effects, as well as competitive pressure in Southeast Asia. Adjusted EBITDA for the first half year declined by 4.9% or 2.6% in constant currency to EUR 43 million, also here reflecting an initial contribution from cost-saving measures. Asia did a good job when it comes to conversion margin because despite top line pressure, the adjusted EBITDA margin remained stable at 10.1% and conversion margin expanded by 194 basis points to 15.5%, demonstrating discipline across the P&L. Now let's move to the next slide, our net profit, and I provide some comments on the line items here. Net financial expenses in the first half year came in at EUR 70 million, down 3.4% compared to prior year, as a lower financial expense offset the decline in financial income during the period.

The lower financial expense was mainly driven by a significant reduction in interest expense, which decreased by almost 15% compared to the prior year, as well as a 5.9% year-on-year decrease in other financial costs. Tax expense for the period was EUR 35.5 million, implying an effective tax rate of 29% versus 30% in 2024. The lower operating profit was partly offset by lower net financial expenses, resulting in a 14.6% increase in net profit, which came in at EUR 85.5 million for the first half of 2025. Now let's look at the next slide for the cash performance on the group. On slide 14. During the first six months of the year, Azelis generated free cash flow of EUR 151 million. While margins have compressed, our cash generation has accelerated. Free cash flow rose to 10.8% year- on- year, and conversion margin improved to 63.8%.

A clear testament to our asset-light, resilient business model and operational discipline, enabling us to fund growth while maintaining flexibility under uncertainty. This resulted in a 10.6% point uplift in free cash flow conversion to 63.8% for H1 2025, compared to 53.3% in H1 2024. This improvement was driven by lower working capital investments, despite lower EBITDA, demonstrating the strength of our asset-light business model. Now let's look at the components of the working capital on the next slide, on slide 15. Net working capital as a percentage of sales was 15.8% at the end of June 2025, compared to 15.9% at the end of December and 15.4% at the end of June 2024. Compared to December, we have made progress reducing our working capital level, as indicated in the Q1 call. However, the progress is slower than I expected, and timing of supplier payments did not support the ratios.

There is still quite some work to do here, especially on the inventory side, and we expect further improvements in working capital efficiency as the year progresses. Looking at the chart on the right, our working capital was flat for the first half year due to slow market demand, compared to historical seasonal patterns where we witnessed every year a ramp-up towards the summer. You see this on the dotted lines of the chart. Overall, we'll manage our working capital in line with adjusted demand and expect to reduce working capital investment in the second half of the year, as this will also benefit our net debt that we can see on slide 17.

The change in net debt during the first half year reflects a stronger operating cash flow of EUR 177 million, stable interest payment, and our M&A investments, which includes EUR 99 million in deferred considerations, good options in the first half of 2025. These cash outflows for deferred payments, coupled with slower EBITDA development, resulted in a leverage ending at 3.1x at the end of the period. At the end of June 2025, we have a strong liquidity position of EUR 702 million, both in cash and unused credit facilities. As Anna highlighted, our innovation capabilities, ESG leadership, reflected in our MSCI AA rating, and digitization capabilities are key differentiators. We're not holding back investments in these. These strengths, combined with our financial resilience, position us to emerge stronger from current market challenges.

While the environment remains challenging, we are well positioned and resilient to deliver for our principals, customers, and shareholders throughout the rest of 2025 and beyond. Let me give it back to Anna from here.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Thanks, Thijs, and I would like to conclude the presentation with some comments on the outlook. Actually, my views on the outlook have not changed since I last presented to you at the end of April. Near-term, the macro uncertainty driven by tariffs, geopolitical instability, and regional conflicts continues to weigh on demand across all markets. Yet, this environment also creates opportunity, as I said before. Customers turn to us to reformulate and adapt, whether to offset rising costs or navigate supply chain disruptions. We are right-sizing Azelis while staying agile, capturing growth wherever it emerges. At the same time, we remain focused on executing our long-term strategy. We are controlling what we can, cost and working capital, with discipline. Our asset-light business model enhances resilience and supports the strong cash generation, as you have seen. Medium to long-term, sector fundamentals remain compelling.

Customers and principals need distributors, regardless of market conditions, to help them innovate and grow their business. This has not changed, and in these volatile times, it is even more important. The industry is still very fragmented, with many opportunities to grow through M&A as well. Our global platform and strategic focus position us to unlock value despite near-term headwinds. Through cycles, our innovation, sustainability, and digital capabilities make us a key partner for customers and principals. This is the Azelis value proposition through every phase of the cycle. Operator, we are ready for questions, and you can open the line.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone. We will pause for a moment to assemble the queue. Thank you. We'll take our first question from the line of Annelies Vermeulen with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Annelies Vermeulen
Head of Business Services Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good morning, Thijs. Good morning, Anna. I have three questions, please. Firstly, just on the leverage, you mentioned once you've stabilized the balance sheet that you will resume M&A. Can we assume that you don't plan any further M&A for the second half? In that context, is raising capital something that you're considering as we move through this year? Secondly, could you comment a little bit on pricing? I think when we last spoke, you know, pricing had stabilized, but we've seen a relatively volatile earnings season on the supplier side. Are you seeing any pricing deterioration anywhere? Lastly, could you just elaborate on this increased competition in China? You said you saw an uptick in competitive pressure across Southeast Asia. Your peer yesterday also reported seeing pressure from China volumes in LatAm, for example. Are you seeing that in any other geographies beyond Southeast Asia? Thank you.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Yeah, let me first look at your question around leverage and M&A. We remain committed to our 2.5x- 3x range of leverage. For M&A, it means pacing, and that means prioritization. Only strategic assets that might not come back anytime soon or that have a timeline that we can't influence, these are the ones at this moment that we are pursuing. As you might know from earlier communication, most of our targets, we are in bilateral discussions, so we can indeed pace and we can extend the timeline there. We really look at what is very strategic and the nice-to-have assets we'll have to weigh. That does not mean that we will not do any acquisition anymore by the end of this year, but it's all what we have in the pipeline, very small bolt-on acquisitions.

On pricing, there's not really a large development different than what we already have communicated before. I would say in some semi-specialties, a bit more pricing pressure than on the high end, and in the same markets that we already had anticipated before. A little bit more on the industrial chemicals side and a bit more here and there in food. For the rest, I would say as we had communicated before. The last question you mentioned, competition in China increased. It was not in China, it's in Southeast Asia, but it's driven by more pressure from Chinese products. The goods that are not flowing into the U.S. will flow and are flowing more to LatAm, Africa, and Southeast Asia. That last part, where there we see most of these goods ending up at the moment. That gives, of course, more pressure because there's oversupply.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Okay. On your last question, on your question, I think, or four questions you asked, we don't need a capital raise. We don't need to raise capital to run the business.

Annelies Vermeulen
Head of Business Services Equity Research, Morgan Stanley

Okay, very clear. Thank you.

Operator

The question comes from the line of Stijn Demeester with ING. Please go ahead.

Stijn Demeester
Equity Research Analyst, ING

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Two from my end. One follow-up on the competition from Chinese competitors. Are these distributors with a similar business model, or are these direct-to-consumer producers who may approach clients online? Does it manifest itself on the semi-commodity space, as IMCD was yesterday reporting, or also on the specialty side? That's the first question. Secondly, it's generally assumed that the outsourcing trend accelerates in tough economic times. Is that a trend or a development you are currently seeing or not yet because of the uncertainty? More in general, do you feel that the business model has generally changed in the last two years, as it has proven to be difficult to deliver on the premise of GDP plus plus growth, organic revenue growth in the last couple of years? These are my questions.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Can you repeat that second question, Stijn? You dropped for a second there.

Stijn Demeester
Equity Research Analyst, ING

Yes, sure. It's generally assumed that the outsourcing trend accelerates in tough economic times because principals outsource more to save on cost. Is that a development you are currently seeing or not? More in general, do you feel that the business model has changed in the recent years? I think that has been proven to be difficult to deliver on the premise of GDP plus plus organic growth over the last couple of years. Yeah.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Yeah, clear. Good morning. First on China, they use actually mostly traders, which they did already in the past. We have not seen anything done online. They use distributors, they use traders to penetrate these markets. Ominous traders don't have technical capabilities. The moment, and that answers maybe the second part of your question, of your first question, the moment it becomes more difficult or technical to replace, I would say, a specific ingredient or chemical, these traders are not able to support really the companies. Yes, we see that more on semi-commodities and less on specialties. On your question of outsourcing, yes, indeed. We've seen, of course, a lot of announcements in the press that the chemical companies are restructuring. It means they refocus more on their core. Their core is often R&D, production, and, of course, serving larger customers.

You can indeed see that there are opportunities for distributors. I am convinced nothing has changed in the GDP plus plus. As we said before, customers, even, I would say, maybe more accelerated today with all the complexities, need support with formulation, but they can't do it themselves, especially the smaller ones. They just don't have the technical capabilities and also the large amount of ingredients. They just can't follow up on that. The second part from principals, as I said, yes, that trend is there. We always said that the trend to outsourcing is a slow one. It doesn't go with big percentage points year- on- year, but it is there. I have not seen any change of this.

Stijn Demeester
Equity Research Analyst, ING

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Suhasini Varanasi with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Suhasini Varanasi
VP and Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Just a couple for me, please. I just want to understand if you saw any changes in the growth patterns over the course of the quarter, or if you saw any changes in early July, especially in Europe and Americas. That's my first one. The second one is, obviously, you've been implementing the cost-saving program. Can you help us understand or quantify the benefit that we should expect to SG&A in 3Q and 4Q? Thank you.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Okay. On the movements within the quarter, I think right now the environment is not conducive of giving any comments relating to basically movements in the quarter. Obviously, as Anna already alluded, the order frequency is quite high, hand-to-mouth conjunction, and then you get basically, it's a fluid situation. You get basically shock effects at the end of the month when customers all of a sudden want their goods. This also does not help, of course, our inventory planning. Overall, what we see is not a real change for one quarter. It's more a continuation of the end of Q1. The order frequency, you have to ship more orders. You have to put more work in. There's more uncertainty on the forecasting and our material requirements planning. It puts, of course, more pressure on the supply chain disruptions, as Anna was alluding to. On your second question.

Suhasini Varanasi
VP and Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

On the G&A side, can you please repeat in a nutshell what you're after?

Suhasini Varanasi
VP and Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Just the benefit from the cost savings. How should we think about OpEx evolution 3Q, 4Q once you get the full benefit of the cost-savings program? Thank you.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Yeah. We communicated in the Q1 call that we see an annualized run-rate savings of EUR 20 million, and of which roughly half will be in this year. We have started executing those programs, of course, after the Q1 call in April. May and June, these items have been executed. We're well on track with those items. Currently, there is limited benefit in our results inhibited. You will see these cost savings flowing in basically in the second half. They already have been executed. We're roughly halfway with it. You will see them in H2 coming in.

Suhasini Varanasi
VP and Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laurent Favre with BNP. Please go ahead.

Laurent Favre
Head of Chemicals Equity Research, BNP

Yes. Hi, good morning. I'd like to dig into the Personal Care side of things in the U.S. I was wondering if you could talk about how much of that weakness there you feel is about the market versus market share versus operational issues that you would have had in the first half.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

We see a weakness in Personal Care U.S. We talked a lot, of course, with our partners and our principals, and actually, they confirmed they see exactly the same development. It's discretionary spending, and when things are a bit, I would say, uncertain, which they are, of course, in the U.S., that's the category that gets hit quite soon, I would say. That's exactly what we've seen.

Laurent Favre
Head of Chemicals Equity Research, BNP

You don't think that you've lost share or you've had issues explaining a weaker performance versus the market?

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

No. As I said, we have the impression, and that's confirmed by our principals, that it's just a trend that's happening at the moment in the U.S. We have no indication we're losing share. We have a very strong Personal Care team in the U.S. that has a strong reputation in the market, and that has not changed.

Laurent Favre
Head of Chemicals Equity Research, BNP

Okay. As you mentioned, the lack of, I guess, ability to export to the U.S. for Chinese competitors was leading to pressure in the rest of the world, including Asia. On the flip side, doesn't that mean that there should be a fairly better environment for pricing in the U.S. with less competition from those exports or imports, I guess, from a U.S. standpoint?

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Eventually, yes, of course, but at this moment, not yet because nothing has been decided between, I would say, China and the U.S. on tariffs. As long as that is in flux, we have a lot of conversations with our customers with a campaign made in America. I think I already explained that last time in the call to promote products. We source most of our products for the U.S. in the U.S., so our direct tariff exposure is not so much. I think we have opportunities, but today, we proposed alternatives of Chinese products already to our customers. They have a wait-and-see attitude at the moment, and they will move. We are ready to move the moment that things become clear on the tariff situation. I expect that should be in the coming weeks.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Our labs are quite busy, of course, with reformulations, Laurent. We can see that our labs are very busy, where customers are trying out, where they're testing, where they're looking for alternatives, where they're trying to anticipate on these things, but it's not coming to fruition yet.

Laurent Favre
Head of Chemicals Equity Research, BNP

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nicole Manion with UBS. Please go ahead.

Nicole Manion
Director of Equity Research, UBS

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two, please. Firstly, just on the portfolio optimization piece in APAC. This has been a bit of a headwind on growth view for a while now. Can you elaborate a bit on how far you think that has to run and sort of what you're looking to achieve there? I understand there's always sort of some tweaks you'll be looking to make, but if you could just elaborate specifically on that, that would be great. Secondly, if I may, just to briefly follow up on the previous question about Personal Care in the U.S. I think previously, maybe there was a sense in Q1 that some of the issues were execution related around sort of previous acquisitions. Can you confirm whether that's been sort of fixed or wasn't the case? That would be really helpful. Thank you.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

I will take the one on the portfolio optimization, and I will go back on the business side of Personal Care US. Now, obviously, I think to provide some context, what we call a portfolio optimization program, in Asia, we've done a lot of M&A over the years. When you acquire companies, there is always a part of semi-specialties in those companies where you say, "Hey, this doesn't gel with our ESG footprint. This doesn't gel with our lab footprint, how we want to do things." These are items where we basically phase things out when there are some assets involved, like plants, those kinds of things. We phase these items out. Now, obviously, the phasing of this is much less over time. The peak of this was basically, if we look at when we phased things out, there was still business in the first half of 2024.

If you look in Q3, the effect is getting less and less. In Q4, gradually, we're spacing this out. Normally, and I'm just giving here a normal number, we phase out roughly between $30 million and $50 million on semi-commodities or product lines that are ESG related, like tobacco lines, those kinds of things, where we phase it out on an annual basis.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

On the second question, I believe you're confusing Personal Care with Widen. Widen was the acquisition. We reported some operational issues, ERP implementation issues in Q1. That's fully resolved. They're back on track. That had nothing to do with the Personal Care business.

Nicole Manion
Director of Equity Research, UBS

Great. Personal Care was purely market-driven, and the execution issues that were elsewhere have been fully rectified within the quarter.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

They were in the F&F side in the U.S. Those issues have been fully resolved.

Nicole Manion
Director of Equity Research, UBS

Great. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wilmer with Kempen. Please go ahead.

Eric Wilmer
Head of Sustainable Opportunities Equity Research, Kempen

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I also had a question on vegan. In North America, I was wondering if the recent, let's call it, challenges in portfolio integration, which I believe indeed lasted a few months, have perhaps resulted in some of your local suppliers reassessing their current or future contracts. Is there a risk that this would restrain near-term organic sales growth for this particular business, which I believe is highly lifestyle scared? Also, apologies for this, but digging a little bit deeper on the China flows, I believe that you have previously highlighted to be willing to work with more Chinese suppliers. Despite challenges on pricing for your existing business, could this event potentially in the longer term turn out to be a bit of a volume tailwind? Thank you.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Maybe on your first question, I don't think I understand your question completely. Can you maybe repeat it or elaborate on it?

Eric Wilmer
Head of Sustainable Opportunities Equity Research, Kempen

Yeah, what I understand is that there was an ERP integration issue, and that led to delays of sales. If you can imagine that as a supplier, maybe if you want to expand business with Azelis, you may want to reassess. Just wanted to get some comfort there. Thank you.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Okay. No, there's no risk. It has been a very short blip in their performance. We have no suppliers who have doubts. Widen is also a very strong company with a service that actually no one can really copy at the moment in the U.S. Strong reputation, strong connectivity with customers. There's no reason for a small blip to move away from us.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Eric, every quarter, we have three or four ERP implementations. That's how we are wired here at Azelis. They come with various degrees of complexity, of course. When we flag to the market, there is a delay basically in go-live and those kinds of things. We produce stock ahead of time, those kinds of things. There is always an operational or disruptional effect of these go-lives. We are very transparent in communicating that to the market, especially in a high margin, high velocity, where we have an excellent value proposition in the U.S. Over my existence here, we have implemented roughly 150 of these implementations. I can say actually we are quite good at that.

We are achieving a centralized data model at the core of all that we do because that's a key enabler for digital opportunities that are out there, where we can use agentic AI, master data planning. We can use, for instance, cross-selling opportunities. It is critical that those companies get online. Every quarter, we have a full team working on that. That has no supplier risk. It actually makes the connection even better. It also has, of course, some customer interruption at the point of go-live. That's why I want to leave it a little bit there. Okay.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Yeah. Your second question, on China and Chinese suppliers, our ambition is to bring to our customers the best portfolio, the most innovative, sustainable, new molecules that we can offer so that our customers can innovate. We are constantly looking at who are what we call the winners of the future. In the past, these winners of the future were all coming, mostly, I would say, from Europe and a little bit from America. We are watching what's happening in the world. It is our ambition to continue to have the best portfolio now and in the future.

Eric Wilmer
Head of Sustainable Opportunities Equity Research, Kempen

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Carl Raynsford with Berenberg. Please go ahead.

Carl Raynsford
Head of Business Services Equity Research, Berenberg

Sorry. Morning. Anna, morning, Thijs. I have two, if I may. The first, just on the working capital. Is improving on this level difficult in the short term just because of the current macro? I'm just interested to know how you handle inventory in these moments. Do you still think it's important to retain high inventory levels given where demand is at the moment? Just to be prepared for a volume uptick. That makes working capital improvement pretty difficult in the short term, I'd have thought. I'm interested to know what your ideas are in the second half to sort of improve that level. The second question, just on the cost savings, you mentioned half the program has been executed, benefits in the second half. Could you delve into exactly what you've executed so far and what's left to do on this front, please? Thank you.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Okay. Let me give you an indication on the working capital first, Carl. Thank you for that question. As I already alluded to, if you look at basically our working capital performance, we see basically compared to prior year, we see our [DIO] is a bit higher, it's about three days higher. It needs to be roughly around the 50%- 51% range. There you can get your calculation up and running, what I see, what it should be. Obviously, as Anna also indicated in an earlier question, I think one piece was that the order frequency, when you get peaks in demand at month end, you need to facilitate that also with order replenishment. The forecast accuracy, when we look at and we order, we do obviously order planning in a very much detailed manner.

The forecast accuracy is basically deviating much, these shock effects at the end of the month. I think that was also flagged in Q1. That makes planning a little bit more difficult. You create basically stock at elevated levels. Also, the DIO is basically two to three days higher. We're still best practice there because if you see, for instance, everywhere you see elevated inventory levels, it doesn't really change the planning side towards the principle, but you will see a gradual adjustment of your order patterns when it comes to inventory planning. On the contingency planning that you mentioned, we run an asset-light business model where basically a distributor has to adjust in the middle office. You have to adjust yourself to the new volume trends and demand trends. You do not touch your salespeople. You do not hold back on digital investments, those kinds of things.

They normally take about four or five months to come to execution. These announcements and the work that has been done started mainly in May and June. I indicated already, we gave a careful step with EUR 20 million in an annual run-rate cost savings. Big number in the scheme of things, but around EUR 10 million will come in the second half. All the items that we have requested and where we are working on, roughly half have been executed already. You will see, I said already in my speaker notes as well, that we are well on track on achieving across the various regions these operating plans. Does that give you an insufficient answer, Carl?

Carl Raynsford
Head of Business Services Equity Research, Berenberg

Yeah, no, they're very helpful, Thijs. Thank you, as always. Cheers.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Thibault Leneeuw with KBC Securities. Please go ahead.

Thibault Leneeuw
Equity Research Analyst, KBC Securities

Good morning. I just have one question left. With respect to the market share in the U.S., given the tariffs, while import duties lower overall the month, is there an opportunity to improve the competitive position, especially since you have a much broader supplier network with local sourcing compared to smaller players?

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Yeah, it's a good question. Of course, we don't know yet how all the tariffs will pin out. That's a caveat. If indeed tariffs are going to be so high that only U.S.-produced products remain competitive, yeah, we are very well positioned. The good thing is, as you mentioned, we are global. We have also, I would say, in different countries, contact with many different principals. That's the beauty of our model. We can really be very flexible and find the right products for the right markets. These things take time, of course. It's not happening overnight. That's the beauty of being global.

Thijs Bakker
Group CFO, Azelis

Maybe to add, those players in the industry with a broad and technical portfolio with labs that can make many combinations for the customers and have the capabilities to be very agile and close to the customer base, they will benefit on the longer run.

Thibault Leneeuw
Equity Research Analyst, KBC Securities

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions on the conference line. We have come to the end of this call. I will now hand over to the Chief Executive Officer, Anna Bertona, for closing remarks.

Anna Bertona
Group CEO, Azelis

Thank you. We trust today's call has provided meaningful insight into how we are navigating current market environments and why we remain confident in the medium and long-term potential of our market. We believe we are well positioned to seize the opportunities ahead, and we are excited about what the future holds. As always, our Investor Relations team is here for any questions or follow-ups you might have. Please don't hesitate to reach out. We'd be happy to continue the conversation. For those taking some well-earned time off, we wish you a relaxing and enjoyable summer. Thank you for your continued interest and support, and have a great day.

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