Morning, and welcome to the Bekaert Q1 2025 trading update call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions after the presentation. If you require assistance, you may press *0 on your keypad at this time, and an operator will assist you. If you wish to join the queue to ask a question at any time, you may press *1, and should you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press *2. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Guy Marks, Vice President, Investor Relations. Sir, the floor is yours.
Excellent. Many thanks for the warm welcome, and thank you all to those on the phone for joining today's Q1 2025 trading update. I'll hand over very shortly to CEO Yves Kerstens and CFO Seppo Parvi, but just before I do that, I'll take you through the safe. To this, or any other publication issued by Bekaert. With that out of the way, I'm delighted to hand over to Yves.
Thank you, Guy. Also, a warm welcome from my side on the trading update for Q1. In the Q1 of 2025, we delivered a top line just south of EUR 1,991 million, 3% lower than Q1 of 2024. On our joint ventures, we delivered around EUR 240 million of top line, 2% lower than in Q1 the year before, so same types of dynamics in that region. In that context of a challenging market environment, we keep on working on protecting our margin, cost control, but also working capital. The way we look at 2025 is that we are lowering our capital expenditure from around EUR 190 million that we had foreseen to a EUR 150-160 million range. Our growth platforms are well positioned when the demand picks up in the upcoming two, three years.
In terms of the balance sheet, we keep on having a low financial leverage, so today we have the AGM in Kortrijk here where we will meet our investors, virtually and physically, some of them, and we are proposing a dividend of EUR 1.9 per share, which is a continuous increase of our dividends in line with our policy, and we have executed EUR 50 million of our buyback program of our own shares of the total program of EUR 200 million, EUR 25 million per quarter. If you have a look at the different businesses, it's a mixed picture, and I think for all the industrial companies and for the whole economy, the strong focusing on understanding what impact will be of the import tariffs and to minimize that impact. Let me start with rubber reinforcement, the tire reinforcement business.
We see a strong performance in China, with a strong automotive demand. We see that both in rubber reinforcement as well as in steel wire solutions, and we see some absolute demand in Europe and North America, a little bit continuation of the Q4 of 2024. Overall, we see an overall, remaining overcapacity in the industry and an uncertainty on the tariffs. However, as Bekaert, we are well positioned as we have a global footprint, and we'll come back to that in our position in the U.S. more specifically. In steel wire solution, we see a solid, sales performance both in volume and mix. As announced, we are on the trajectory to divest our business in Costa Rica, Ecuador, and Venezuela, and that's fully trending on track.
For our ropes business, both steel ropes and synthetic ropes, we reconnected with stable production reliability in the steel ropes business, and of course, we see some uncertainty on the demand and the order book for our steel ropes business and lower hoisting demand in China. Specialty business, we see the impact in sustainable construction, mainly in the U.S., where we see compared to Q1 of 2024, we see a drastic reduction in the number of newly built factories and newly built warehouses. On the other hand, we see positive evolution in, let's say, emerging regions where our construction ceramics business is getting more traction, so I speak more specifically about India, Middle East, and also China.
As expected, we announced last year that there was a technology evolution in the semi, not in the semiconductor, but in the solar, waving panels for ultra-wide finder products, so we still had some solid sales in Q1 2024, so the comparables show a drop in that sales, but as expected. Let me turn to the situation on the import tariffs. Let's start with giving you a picture on how our supply chain is structured for the U.S. We have 70% of our sales as local production, and the remaining 30% is basically divided by less than 10% coming from China and the rest from Europe and Middle East. Also, in terms of, let's say, the raw materials, 65% is locally sourced with the main import coming from Brazil.
With a strong local footprint, we are able to react, but also with our global supply chain where we can supply from Asia, from China, or from Europe, if required. On top, we've been negotiating, the team has been negotiating in all the businesses, how we cope with these import duties and the additional cost are passed to our customers. Of course, this will have impact on the end demand where, of course, products and inflation could play a role, so the big uncertainty is how the whole market and economic sentiment in the U.S. and investment context will evolve. Again, I want to repeat, we are well positioned also in previous, let's say, disruptions of the supply chain. We can think about COVID or about the energy crisis. We are well positioned to protect our margins and our business.
On the other hand, we all know that the uncertainty on the overall demand and the sentiment plays a role, so to be monitored further the upcoming weeks and months, and I hand over now to Seppo to give a little bit more perspective on the different financial performance of the businesses.
Thanks, Yves, and let's start by looking at the consolidated sales spreads showing how did we move from EUR 1.25 million sales in Q1 last year to EUR 991 million sales in Q1 this year. One of the biggest drivers is raw materials, and that is pass-through effect of lower raw material and energy cost compared to Q1 last year. You should also remember that there were some surcharges related to energy, included still in last year Q1 sales prices. Price and mix has changed, down by EUR 11 million. That is mainly impact from changes in the regional mix between the different countries. As an example, more sales in China compared to U.S. or Europe and some other weight differences between the countries.
Net volume down 12%, FX giving a small benefit of EUR 9 million, so no big changes on FX front, and portfolio changed net EUR 4 million. That is a net of capacity closures, mainly in U.S., steel wire solutions in Indonesia and India, as well as additional sales from Pexco, the acquisition we made last year. Let's move to PUs, our divisions, and start with rubber reinforcement, where we had strong performance in China, offsetting volume decreases in Europe and North America. That's mainly due to lower demand for truck tires in Europe and North America. We had high plant utilization in China, that led to lower average sales prices, but higher plant utilization is supporting profitability in rubber reinforcement business.
Our leading position when it comes to innovation was also recognized, and we won Material Innovation Award at TireTech Expo 2025, and we also launched our new brand of next-generation ultra-mega tensile solutions. Also to highlight that, on top of the reported sales on the left-hand side, we have also EUR 45 million sales from our joint venture in Brazil, and those are not included in the consolidated sales. Let's move to steel wire solutions, and there we had sales, solid sales performance both on volumes and mix. Good to notice that even if you look at the right-hand side graph, sales looks rather flat, but there is good underlying growth in SWS business when you exclude plant closures. Like for light volumes, we're up 2.7%, and in EMEA, volumes were up 2% thanks to strong sales in agriculture and consumer products.
China volume strongly up 14% by strong demand for automotive components, and North America up 4%. That is thanks to peak in agriculture seasons and energy utility sales. In Latin America, volumes were down 2%. We have strong outlook despite uncertain trade policies, strong order books, especially at energy utility customers both in Europe and North America. We have been successfully passing on high raw material prices to customers in steel wire solutions business as well as in other businesses. I think that is a job well done by our sales force, and they are following also the historical operating model that we have had when it comes to rising margins. In this steel wire solutions business area, we have EUR 169 million sales from joint venture in Brazil, and that is not included in the graph of reported sales on the left-hand side.
Moving to PPRG, our ropes business, steel ropes business in Europe and North America continued to further improve output reliability. I'm sure you all remember that we had some struggles there last year, but those are now behind us, and we have been able to stabilize the output. Results are in line with expectations. We see 2% volume growth in steel ropes, mainly in the Americas and China, and production output reliably maintained in U.K. and U.S., as mentioned already. The advanced cords, low elevator hoisting demand in China has impacted volumes negatively 6%. That is a reflection of the construction business in China currently that has been a bit down. Here we have a bit mixed outlook.
It's a global uncertainty around the tariffs that is leading to slowdown in customer activities in ropes, and we see slower order intake in mining and grain and industrial markets. There is a healthy pipeline for oil and gas projects currently compensating partly the slowdown in some other businesses, and demand for advanced cord applications is expected to remain stable. Moving to specialty businesses, where we are having strong focus on cost management, we have paused when it comes to capacity ramp-up as we are well invested, but we are ready to continue on growth investments as soon as the markets start to recover. We still believe that these are future growth engines when it comes to our business. In sustainable constructions, volumes were down 10%, sales 14%, and especially U.S. flooring business, where the project delays in automotive and logistics sectors have had a negative effect.
Also in Europe, increased price competition is impacting volumes, and the slow economy in Europe is reflected here. What is very positive is the increasing adaptation of our products in high growth markets, India, China, and the Middle East, and we believe that over time this will create volume growth opportunities for us. There is a healthy pipeline when it comes to volume growth in tunneling and infrastructure businesses. Other segments of specialty businesses, first of all hydrogen, we have stable sales despite project delays and high customer stocks, so managing quite well under the current market conditions.
Following the technology shift that also Yves was relating to related to solar applications, sales for ultra-fine wires were significantly lower compared to Q1 of 2024, but in line with the previous quarter, so stable quarter on quarter, and that is something we had expected, so no surprise as such. This was also I think well communicated during the second half of last year, and semiconductor applications remain a growing and profitable mix business here. When it comes to combustion technologies and horse and conveyor belt, we see lower sales versus last year Q1, but these are also in line with the expectations. With this, handing over back to you, Yves, please.
Yeah, thanks, Seppo. To summarize, it's clear that the strategic transformation has made our company more resilient through the cycles and that through portfolio evolution, cost control, and exiting lower margin business. If you look at the impact of the tariffs year to date, they're minimal. We have to see, of course, the remaining of the year, but on the other hand, as we explained, we are well positioned with our local footprint and our flexibility of sourcing and the back-to-back with our customers. However, the overall market demand remains fragile and uncertain for us, so in that context, we were expecting a weaker market from 2024 going into 2025, which was confirmed.
We are currently expecting a stable sales and stable EBITu margins, and also to remind the audience, we communicated at the beginning of the year that the plan for 2025 was an equal plan of first half and second half, so different seasonality for the business than we had in previous years. Handing over to Guy for the Q&A. Thank you.
Thank you. The floor is now open for your questions. If you wish to join the queue to ask a question at this time, please press star one. We do ask if listening on speakerphone today, please pick up your handset when asking your question to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, please press star one on your phone at this time to join the queue to ask a question. Please hold a moment while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Frank Claassen with Degroof Petercam. Your line is live.
Yes, good morning, Frank Claassen of Degroof Petercam. Two questions, please. First of all, on your guidance of flat revenues, what kind of assumption do you make on the wire rod prices? Will it go down because of the lower steel prices, or will the tariffs play a role here? Some words on that, please. And then secondly, on the M&A, M&A agenda, yeah, can you elaborate what, yeah, what is your view currently? Is it still the same? Do you see more movement here? What are your plans for the M&A agenda? Thank you.
If I take first, your question on revenues and wire rod assumptions, and then I think Yves can take the M&A agenda part. When it comes to wire rod prices, we have seen rather stable low prices already in most of the market, with the exception of the U.S., and we expect that to continue. In the U.S., obviously, if you look at the tariffs, that is going to continue to push up wire rod prices, and that is obviously also something we take into account in our pricing, and like I said, we have been successfully mitigating when it comes to higher costs due to the tariffs when it comes to price negotiations with our customers.
Yeah. No, thanks. And Franco on the question on M&A. As you know, priorities for us are two aspects: first of all, consistently delivering the performance, and that's a priority where we are working on for this year as well, while also continuing to transform the portfolio of the company. As mentioned before, we continue looking at different levels of M&A in some of the industries wherein there is a consolidation play for us as market leaders. We're looking at adjacencies to strengthen some of our platforms. There are ongoing cases, and as mentioned before, the challenges, they are only closed when they are closed, but we continue to work on it. The opportunities, of course, are there that some of the expectations are more becoming realistic.
Hopefully, we can, let's say, move with some smaller transactions during 2025 while keep on working on further strategizing the platforms we want to win with Bekaert in the future.
Okay. Thank you for your comments.
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Wim Horst with KBC Securities. Your line is live.
Yes, thank you, and good morning also from my side. I have a couple of questions. Maybe first on tariffs. Can you elaborate on how you have adjusted production so far, in which divisions, which geographies have you fine-tuned and changed production capacity or adjusted production? That is the first question. The second one would be on rubber reinforcements. Can you update on the capacity utilization per region, now as we speak, and also, yeah, quantify the volume changes that you saw in the first quarter per region? Those were the questions. Thank you.
Yeah. Perhaps I can take the first one away, Seppo, and we can both do it. On the tariffs, fundamentally, if you look at adjusted production, no fundamental changes. In our operating model anyhow, we have flexible allocation and sourcing, so the teams are constantly looking at the best flows, correct, based on the demand supply. If you look at some more concrete businesses, we miss in steel wire solutions, so the team has been looking at flows from China to U.S., delivering from Europe to U.S. We have some flexibility there, and also in agreement with our customers, reviewing some of these flows. On the rubber reinforcement business, remains mainly the same types of flows, but also a combination of local production plus import mix changes.
I would say fundamentally we didn't need to do any capacity realignment or adjustments. It's more of activating some of the different flows to optimize the supply. And on the capacity utilization of RR, we have to, as mentioned, RR in China, automotive demand overall pretty strong in Q1, both in SWS as well as in rubber reinforcement, so there we have a good utilization, in the factories in the U.S. and China up to close to 95-100%. If you look at Europe, U.S., that's more in the range of 75%, in line with the previous utilizations. In terms of volume changes per region, I don't know, Seppo.
Yeah, in China, we are up some, say, 10% with the good volume development, while Europe, U.S. both are down, say, 5%. That is also, like Yves said, reflected on the capacity utilization rates.
Yeah, okay, understood. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Martijn D en Drijver with ABN AMRO. Your line is live.
Yes, thank you, operator. Good morning, gentlemen. I have a few, and I'll take them one by one. On rubber reinforcements, you mentioned continued overcapacity. We obviously have to deal with the tariffs. Are Asian competitors forcing prices lower? Are they dumping product in Europe, relatively speaking, now that certain markets are off-limits? The second question is, it's been a couple of quarters that we have negative volume in Europe and North America in RR. Do you have any mitigation action planned in terms of production footprint optimization? Those were the first two questions for RR, please.
Yeah. So Martijn, I can take them. The situation of the tire industry as a whole and, let's say, the tire cord, remains the same, the same, so in terms of overcapacity, and mainly that overcapacity is in China, correct?
What we've not seen, because our customers are basically, in terms of sourcing strategy, pretty long-term and stable in terms of how to allocate the business to the different players. To your question, we didn't see a more severe competition in Europe and the U.S. recently. Certainly not the U.S. because of the, as you said, import duties, but in Europe, I think pretty stable. I think it's more the question on the long term, of the competitiveness of this region. If you look at the evolution of the market demand in Europe and U.S. on the mitigation action, in the U.S., you know, from tire cord, there are not many local tire cord players, correct? We are one of them, one of the few done. There, we always have been adjusting our capacity between local production and import.
I think in Europe, there is clear also with the utilization of around 75%, we are optimizing the manufacturing footprint and the utilization of the factories to max, let's say, the efficiency. On the last point, that is ongoing today, but there has not been an announcement in terms of a planned closure or something.
No, no decision has been taken on any closure, yeah.
Got it. Moving on to SWS, you mentioned in the first release two closures in Indonesia and in India. Are those the small footprint adjustments that you mentioned in the Q4 2024 release? If so, what level of costs have been taken out, just so we know what to take into account in 2025?
Yeah, correct. These are smaller operations that were joint operations, correct, with our business in rubber reinforcement. These were small businesses, but due to the priorities and the focus, we closed the operations, so minimum impact, but certainly some revenue volume that has shifted from other supply bases and from other factories.
Okay, clear. You mentioned agriculture as, as in this case, particular case in Q1, a rather solid driver for volume. What percentage of revenue for SWS is still coming from agriculture, actually?
It's mainly reference to our business in the U.S., basically where the two big segments in a couple of segments, but two important segments in SWS, U.S. are on one end the defensive for agriculture with a typically very strong business in the first half of the year, the first quarter, and that's what we're referring to. The second, of course, the big business in the U.S. more throughout the year is the transmission, transmission wires business with the overhead cables, reinforcement. That's the two businesses we refer to, the agriculture business in this case, yeah.
What is it? Is it 10% of sales, 20% of sales in the U.S.? Just to give us a bit of a sense of how large this segment still is.
Top of mind, let's just check, Martijn.
Relatively small in the total total sales picture.
Yeah, in U.S. more.
Yeah.
Total US is $100 million, but yeah, we'll come back on that.
Okay. On specialty and the Dramix developments, could you elaborate a little bit on why there was lower demand in Europe? You've explained what happened in the U.S. part of the business, but can you elaborate a little bit on what happened in Europe?
Yeah. Europe is more an evolution, correct? It's not a sudden change in the trend where, let's say, the conversion from traditional reinforcement to Dramix and in some mature markets, basically we have high, let's say, conversion rate already. Construction industrial, let's say, footprint in Europe, meaning new factories, warehouses are more limited. I think what we see now, what is perhaps positive for the future is, let's say, attractiveness of industry in Europe with also change in evolution policies and so on. There we are looking positively into the evolution. That's for Europe. U.S. we explained. We're also pivoting there to other segments in terms of the conversion play and continue our trend on penetrating this business in new regions.
Final question on specialty, the hydrogen, a little bit of a delay in Q1. There was already a bit of a delay in 2024, though the growth was still pretty strong. Any impact on your medium-term expectations into not so much at the end volume and sales level or the evolution towards that level?
You mean the timing it takes in terms of to get this to.
Get to the EUR 200 million, that's your question.
Yeah, correct. Yeah.
Good. As I explained last time, we, based on, let's say, the evolution of the sustainability agenda, some changes in policies, in priorities, the supply chain that is pretty full, correct? We see that delay of the growing demand with the two years. If you look at the horizon of 2030, we're still positive about that business to make it a sizable business of a couple of hundred million, with the full offering. The porous transport layer, but also with launching the MEA. What we are doing currently is to make sure we have the footprint in China, we have the footprint in Belgium ready, correct? We start supplying our key customers from this, also from the new Belgium location, ramping that up and keep on driving the R&D with the customers on the MEA offering.
Both the PTL and the MEA, let's say, should generate in the future nice additional growth and margin. We see the final investment decisions, projects increasing, but of course it takes time for going into implementation. I would say on the midterm, still confident, but we need to right-size the resources we put on manufacturing, but also on R&D to follow the scaling up of this business.
Thanks for that. My final question for Parfa on BBRG. You mentioned stepping up output in North America and Europe, referring to the operational issues of 2024. Can you just remind us what was the negative impact on sales and EBIT of those issues in 2024? We know what to adjust for in 2025.
Good thing our memory.
We say satisfies people are not suffering so much. It was more on the profitability because of the operational issues.
Mm-hmm.
We were coming back in Q4. If you look at the margins, we were, I think, 2-4% below normal margins for the first part of the year. That gives you some magnitude.
All right. Those were my questions. Thank you, gentlemen.
Thanks, Martijn.
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chase Coughlan with Van Lanschot Kempen. Your line is live.
Yes, good morning all, and thank you for taking my questions. I'd like to take it back to SWS. Of course, you spoke to quite a strong energy and utilities market also in terms of the order book there. I'm just wondering, do you believe there's any pull forward effect in the first quarter, in that business in the US, given obviously the ongoing tariff uncertainty? Was there sort of an artificial pull forward effect, or can we also extrapolate that sort of performance for the rest of the year?
Sorry, Chase, we got a little bit of breakup in your question. If I understood correctly, what was the question, the timing of revenues in SWS, whether there's anything that was advanced from the normal pacing?
Yeah, exactly. Was there any pull forward in that business?
I think not. No, I mean, it's a business that continues to perform well, and no particular accelerations. I guess, getting to your question, it's as a function of tariffs, but obviously potential uncertainty on the horizon.
All right. That's clear. I have more of a strategic question, I suppose. You speak a lot about your local supply chains and your global footprint. I'm wondering, do you see any sort of opportunity for you to actually gain market share in this environment, especially perhaps in the tire cord business where a lot of the peers are more Asian manufactured? Do you see any opportunities there that you can pursue?
No, it's correct. In the context where, let's say, more local-for-local trade versus global trade, of course, with the global footprint gives us opportunity. We are working on that to seize these opportunities. Now, what we see is that our customers don't change their sourcing strategy so quickly, correct? It takes some time to work things through. Certainly, it will be a positive context for us, on grasping local demand, yeah.
Okay, that's great. Those are my questions. Thank you.
Thank you. As we have no further questions on the lines at this time, I'd like to hand it back to management for any closing remarks.
All right. Good. First of all, thanks for joining this morning. Thanks for your questions. We will continue in Kortrijk with, in one hour, the general assembly. Wish you a good day and thanks for your time on connecting with us today.
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