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Earnings Call: H1 2024

Sep 5, 2024

Operator

Good day and welcome to the H1 2024 Results Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Mr. Aymeric Fréchet. Please go ahead.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Thank you, Jennifer. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review the bioMérieux for this H1 2024 Finance Performance Review. I'm online with Pierre Boulud, CEO, together with Guillaume Bouhours, CFO. Before handing the call over to Pierre for preliminary remarks, please note that this conference call will include forward-looking statements that may change or be modified due to uncertainties and risks related to the company's environment. Accordingly, we cannot give any assurances as to whether we will achieve these objectives. I also remind you that today's call is being recorded and that the replay will be available on our website, www.bioMérieux-finance.com. I'll now hand the call over to Pierre, and then we will open the call to discussion and question. Pierre?

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Thank you, Aymeric. Good morning. Good afternoon, everybody, so a word on the agenda for today. I'll start by sharing with you a quick reminder on our GO28 plan. Then we'll go through the business highlights for the first half of the year. I'll hand over to Guillaume, who will share with you the details of the financial performance, and I'll close the first part of the call on the business outlook, the perspective for the full year of 2024, so that we can open for Q&A. Aymeric has already shared the disclaimer on forward-looking statements, so if we move directly to the GO28 strategic plan that we shared with you on April 9th. A quick reminder on the four pillars that we shared with you.

First pillar relates to going for growth, so the sales growth ambition that we have for the next five years. The second dimension relates to our cost of goods and operational efficiency improvement. The third pillar relates to our teams and the engagement of our teams and the enhancements of our operating model. And finally, the CSR agenda, that is part of our GO28 strategic plan, growing responsible. In numbers, what this plan is all about is delivering a profitable and sustainable growth. So, we've indicated an ambition, a target of growing 7% year-on-year, organically in the years to come, to also generate an improvement of at least 10% of organic EBIT growth, at constant exchange rates, allowing us to reach 20% in 2028.

And while we maintain investments for the future in research and development at 12%, we will keep strengthening our cash flow generation. So where do we stand? Obviously, we'll spend some time on the numbers today for H1, but super high level. The sales growth ambition H1 is showing very good traction with 10% sales growth versus 7% annual guidance. And this 10% sales growth comes together with also product launches in Q2, SPOTFIRE for sore throats, both 5-plex and 15-plex, and VITEK REVEAL being approved by the FDA in the U.S. So additional growth drivers moving forward. Going simple, we have made significant progress with regards to costs improvement. We have three examples here that we wanted to mention.

BIOFIRE automation moving forward with phase two of the automation for respiratory panel now in place. Internalization of various cartridges manufacturing, also delivering cost improvements, and biomolecule insourcing for BIOFIRE is also getting started. With regards to growing stronger, we have conducted an internal engagement survey that has demonstrated a super high level of employee engagement. Very glad to report that back. Our teams are fully engaged with the GO28 ambition, and the board that we had yesterday approved the alignment of a long-term incentive plan together with the GO28 target. Finally, on the CSR path, we are on track to reach the 20 2 4 CSR target. Very quickly on this one, as you know, there is a set of indicators. We have just highlighted three here.

Greenhouse gas emission, we have reduced as of June 2024 by 14%, our greenhouse gas emission versus 2019. Very much in line with the objective for 2024. We have a diversity ambition in terms of gender diversity. We are also with improving and, very comfortable with the ambition for 2024. And finally, at the very core of bioMérieux, business model, obviously, making sure that we provide more results supporting, antimicrobial stewardship ambition, significant increase, very much in line with the 2024 ambition. So overall, very much in line with the GO28 target, but I think it's a good moment now to deep dive into H1 performance. So I'll share with you the business highlights.

Sales growth, as you've seen, H1, we are posting 9.9% sales growth, very much driven by GO28 growth engines, BIOFIRE, non-respiratory panels, SPOTFIRE, microbiology, and industrial applications all together. They are growing 11.4%, so faster than the rest of the franchises. I would say this, Guillaume will come back to that, is significantly increasing 20% like for like, to be compared with a 10% sales growth, so twice as fast. A robust performance, however, negatively impacted by Forex, foreign exchange headwinds, EUR 44 million. And finally, I said a word about it. We have launched new products to support the growth for the future. Our Sore Throat Panel is obviously a significant progress in terms of complementing offering in point of care.

VITEK REVEAL, being now available in the U.S.,. and traumatic brain injury on VIDAS, all three are now available in the U.S. If we go into the different growth engines, the first one, as you all know, is non-respiratory panel. We are very glad to report H1 sales growth 19%, which is significantly above guidance for GO28, which is at 10%. As we shared during the Capital Market Day, what is supporting this sales growth is on the one hand, a cross-selling effort, which are further increasing since December 2023. We have now 50% of the customers, two additional percentage points, using at least three panels worldwide. We have also increased our installed base with customer expansion.

We have managed to have 700 new instrument installations in H1, which is striking is that it's similar to H1 2023. So a very strong competitiveness for either new customers or customers that increase their capacity. And finally, we keep internationalizing the sales outside of the U.S. As you know, historically, it was a 20%, 80% kind of split. We have now 40% of our install base installed outside of the U.S. The second growth engine is SPOTFIRE. As you all know, we are still on track to reach our EUR 80 million sales target in 2024. I won't comment the whole slide, but the big news for us is, as planned, the approval of the Respiratory Sore Throat Panel, which allows to now detect Strep A, which was missing in our panel.

It's also bringing to the market with SPOTFIRE, not only a nasal swab, but also a throat swab, which is a little bit easier to use. Both available in 5-plex, so mini panel and 15-plex. So we are very happy also in terms of timing, because it's coming perfectly on time to prepare for the respiratory season that is coming for 2024, 2025. We keep growing the installed base. We have now close to 1,500 instruments installed in one year, 250 in Q2. And the reagent sales are very well balanced between 15-plex and 5-plex, a question that we've had in the past, in past Q&As. It's actually fifty-fifty, the split between 15-plex and 5-plex.

Final piece of good news on SPOTFIRE is the commercial agreement with McKesson is now running full speed. They are dealing with what we call pure point of care, while we are doing direct sales for the hospitals. We are also seeing very good traction in Japan, which has a market for point of care. It's now 15% of the install base, and SPOTFIRE is available in 16 countries in most geographies. Microbiology very strong performance in H1, again, 9% ahead of our expectations, to be fair. We were expecting 6% to 8%. The growth is not only driven by volume expansion, but we keep increasing pricing.

Our pricing power is delivering again in the first half of 2024, and we have a similar price increase in the first half of 2024, with 4% that we had in 2023. VITEK REVEAL, I already commented, was approved, and we are now in a commercial launch. Finally, VITEK MS PRIME, that was launched 18-24 months ago now, is still ramping up with more than 500 instruments in the market. Finally, industrial applications. Specifically a little bit on the low range of the target, with 7% growth in H1, whereas we have a GO28 target that is a little bit higher. However, our reagents are growing very nicely, 11%, a little bit soft on instruments in the first half.

Very good traction in the food segments, which was slower in the first half of the year, and very good pricing fit, strong testimony to the quality of the solutions and the efforts made by the team with 6% price increase in the first half of the year. If we go to the next slide, there are two additional segments that are not growth driver, but we want to obviously comment to share with you the perspective for H1. Respiratory panel that was expecting to be relatively flat, slightly decreasing, has been growing 14% in the first half of the year. Super impressive performance. Definitely leveraging the install base, and we are by far the market leader. Also demonstrating, I mean, as you all know, it's by far respiratory panel, the panel where we have the most intense competition....

So in the context of a relatively strong epidemiology season, we-- I think we demonstrate in the first half of the year, the very strong competitiveness of our BIOFIRE system. And we have posted very limited price erosion, which again, is a testimony to the competitiveness of the solution. Immunoassay is probably the one that is, softer. It's been the case in Q1. Q2 is slightly better, but as you can see, there's a lot to recover from a low Q1. Still working on the launch of the new instrument, the next generation of the instrument, VIDAS KUBE. Still working on complementing the portfolio with traumatic brain injury, but we don't see the traction yet, and we're seeing a bit of softness on VIDAS.

And with this, I'm happy to hand over to Guillaume, who will go a little bit more granular on sales and on financial performance.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Thank you, Pierre. Hello, everyone. So maybe kind of a recap overall on what Pierre commented on the trends by range. So overall, you see here how the split of the EUR 1.9 billion sales of H1 and 10% organic growth looks at the group level. So overall, when we take BIOFIRE overall, be it RP, non-RP, SPOTFIRE, these overall range is now close to 40% of group sales, very close to 40%. I will not, let's say, re-comment on RP at 14%. Non-RP are continuing to be super strong at 19%, and SPOTFIRE on track with EUR 33 million sales in H1. Microbiology is obviously our second range, contributing to 33% of group sales.

As Pierre mentioned, the 9% growth is actually 13% on reagents and, some, let's say, softness on the equipment. And overall, important to, to re-say that, on the price increases, we were able to pass about 4%, still in H1 on the microbiology ranges overall. Immunoassay are now only representing 9% of, group sales overall. Industrial applications, same effect of, stronger, growth, organic growth of 11% on reagents and softness on equipment, as a bit more the same as was what mentioned for microbiology. And as Pierre mentioned, it's good to highlight again, a super, good performance on, price, pass-through at 6-- slightly above 6%, actually. So with that, maybe if we look at it by, region.

So these are the major regions. Overall, Americas total is 13% growth. You see slightly above 50% of BioMérieux sales overall. North America was 10% organic over H1, definitely driven by BIOFIRE respiratory and non-respiratory performance, as well as industrial applications. Latin America was reported at 35% growth. This overall organic growth is boosted by the fact that we have price increases in Argentina to offset or to compensate for the significant currency devaluation. Without this effect, LATAM is actually at +11% over H1, and I mention that because we'll come back on effect and including, especially Argentina.

EMEA overall at 9% organic growth, as you can see, definitely a great performance on BIOFIRE, non-RP, on BIOFIRE respiratory, as well as a solid performance on microbiology industry applications. Asia Pacific is at 4% organic growth, so slightly lower than the other regions. China, which is, of course, our first country and base in Asia Pacific, is doing very well, actually, above the region average. India was on a high base last year, so it's actually slightly negative, but on a higher comp base from last year. Japan is doing very well, and industry is a bit softer and maybe a bit difficult in this overall figure, is actually negative in Asia Pacific. With especially the effect maybe stronger in Asia Pacific of equipment sales softness.

With these comments, I propose we move to the P&L. I will comment mainly on the last column, which is the organic change on the P&L, so like for like at constant exchange rate and constant perimeter, even though perimeter-wise, we don't have a major effect. With the 10% organic growth on the sales, you see that we are able to deliver 12% organic growth on gross profit. It reflects the fact that gross profit margin on a constant rate basis improved by 100 basis points, thanks to the price increases that we mentioned earlier, especially on microbiology and industry applications.

And as well, a favorable mix effect, which includes the, let's say, quite obvious effect, less equipment which have lower margins on sales of equipment and more reagents in the overall revenues. So favorable mix effect. Now moving to SG&A, you can see that the whole line of sales, marketing, general administrative costs are up 9% on an organic basis, and this mainly reflects the investment in our sales forces, as well as in our marketing capabilities overall, to support GO28, obviously. R&D, plus 6% on an organic basis, and you see that we remain at, let's say, solid 12.7% of our sales invested in research and development and in the innovation powerhouse, as we say in GO 28.

With that, overall, our Contributive EBIT stands at EUR 306 million for H1, 16% margin, but actually a 20% increase on an organic basis versus H1 2023. Significantly above our guidance, let's say, in the growth of the EBIT, as well as the organic improvement of EBIT margin, which is 150 basis points. There comes the negative exchange rate, and I'll come back and zoom on this negative Forex impact of -44. Despite this -44, EBIT, on a reported basis, is up 5% overall in H1. Below EBIT, EBIT to net income, we have the main effect to comment is actually in this line of amortization of intangible assets. Pretty simple.

Last year, this line was heavily impacted by the write-off of the valuation of Hybiome acquisition, the Chinese immunoassay company. And now this line is coming back to, let's say, the normalized level of recurring depreciation of intangibles at minus 18. Net financial expense is slightly more negative than last year. We had some, let's say, favorable one-off on the hedging of internal cash positions that we had last year and we don't have this year. And income tax is, let's say, excluding the effect last year of Hybiome write-off, is very, very similar, around a 24% effective tax rate. So with all of that, net income at EUR 215 million, and up, including everything, up 33% versus last year. Let's move to the cash flow statement.

Our EBITDA stands at EUR 444 million, 22.3% of sales and actually up on a reported basis, 8% versus last year. We had a working capital consumption of EUR 107 million, mainly driven by a further increase of our inventories in H1. Why do we increase inventories? Because first, we need to build up, continue to build up some inventory for new instrument launches, especially for Spotfire. And also, on the reagent side, we need to support the growth of BIOFIRE reagents on non-RP, non-respiratory panels, as well as building the inventory for the coming winter season that will, let's say, start from November or December for respiratory panels. So again, the seasonal effect on top.

Receivables were pretty good, and especially on the U.S. collection of Q4 last year sales. On the CapEx, so investment line, you see, we are EUR 147 million, 8% of sales in CapEx. We mainly invested in our U.S. manufacturing sites to increase capacity and automation. Just to re-mention that, Pierre highlighted that we have validated the phase two, so of the automation steps of the BIOFIRE respiratory reagents manufacturing, and we will invest now that it is validated in the deployment of automation capacity for this in the coming year. We also invest in the new placement of instruments, especially SPOTFIRE, as let's say, the point-of-care segment is traditionally more with placements. So overall, a free cash flow of EUR 50 million, significantly better than neutral last year.

And the net debt position for bioMérieux at EUR 286 million, which remains very low overall, 0.3 times EBITDA for the group. Specific slide, we wanted to, let's say, zoom in a bit together to try to give you a bit more, let's say, color as we can on this, let's say, complex topic of foreign exchange impact. So just to split the EUR 44 million negative FX impact on EBIT in H1 can be split in two categories. The first category is on the hyperinflation countries, and there we specifically account for Argentina, Turkey, and we also included Egypt and Nigeria. So four countries, only these four countries. And the rest, so all the other countries of bioMérieux exposure accounts for EUR 23 million, as you can see at the bottom.

Now, when we zoom in on the hyperinflation currencies, the very good news is that we are able to increase prices in those countries to compensate for the local hyperinflation and, going with it, of course, the huge currency devaluation. What impact does it have in our accounts? So first, these price increases mean that we have a very strong positive impact on the top-line sales organic growth, as well as the organic, so same constant rate, EBIT growth in our accounts. It also means that then when we look at the foreign exchange impact, we have a very negative impact due to the devaluation in those countries, and I come with an example.

The rather good news is that when we look overall with the plus of the price increases, the negative of the cost, and the currency effect, we are able in those countries to report and tell you that we have a neutral net impact on the reported EBIT. So I will not go into all the calculation below, but we wanted to give you all the figures. But if you see the illustrative example on Argentina, typically, it means that on an organic basis, we are able to increase prices representing 31 million EUR, and you have the figures for this example. The EBIT on an organic constant rate basis is up 13 million EUR, but then we have a very massive negative effect in foreign exchange, minus 13, and the net is actually zero.

So on reported EBIT was EUR 4 million last year and EUR 4 million the year after. Let's comment on 23 million out from the other currencies. What do we do? First, we increase prices also when we can in those countries, especially as we highlighted before, microbiology and industrial applications. We try to have some localization actions, and we can mention China, where we have a new plant for BacT bottles, Japan, where we have a repair center for BIOFIRE instruments. And of course, most importantly, we work to drive organic growth overall of profits in those countries. And with that, I hand over back to Pierre.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Thank you, Guillaume. So 20 24 outlook, as you could see in the press release, we have decided to review our guidance. So on the right-hand side, you see the initial guidance. On the left-hand side of the slide, you see our updated guidance. So we are comfortable based on the H1 performance, based on the innovation launches that we've done to forecast between 8% and 10% sales growth organic for the full year 20 24. Our profitability improvement, building again on the very strong achievement of H1 and the good progress of GO28, we review it upwards between 12% and 17% increase at constant exchange rate.

Unfortunately, as Guillaume was explaining, and as you could see in H1, EUR 45 million already in H1 of exchange rate impact, we have reviewed upwards also the negative impact of exchange rate to EUR 70 million. With regards to capital expenditures, we are reviewing carefully the progress of the investment that we make, and we are now in a position to say that the 10-11 that we were giving is probably going to be between 9 and 10 for the full year 2024. Final slide before we open for Q&A. Qualitative slide, but just to share with you, we are very comfortable with where we stand. As you could see, our growth engines are delivering, growing 11.4%.

As you could see, our organic profitability improvement is very strong at the end of H1, 100 basis points. We are also very satisfied with the corporate social responsibility progress that we are making with greenhouse gas emission reducing by 14%. And obviously, we've launched the GO28 plan in April, so we are very much in the process of deploying the different actions and initiatives that we, you know, are going to deliver in the next few months. But I'm glad to report back that 75% of the GO Simple initiatives are already started, that we benefit from a very high employee engagement level I shared with you a few minutes ago. And our innovation powerhouse is not slowing down.

We keep delivering, and, as you know, we give you visibility on what we expect to deliver in the next few years. Very much, in line with our plans to keep bringing innovation into the IVD market to support our growth and profitability ambition in the next few years. And with this, hand over to Aymeric, or to the questions.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Directly to the questions. So Jennifer, if you want, if you can open the question session.

Operator

Yes, thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. We'll go first to Hugo Solvet with BNP Paribas.

Hugo Solvet
Executive Director of Head of Medical Technologies and Services, BNP Paribas

Hi, hello. Thanks for taking my questions. I have three, please. First, on the EBIT growth guidance, when we look at it at constant exchange rate, it implies virtually no margin extension in H2. So could you please discuss the moving parts behind that? And what would basically hold back margin progression in H2, or is it just conservatism from your end? Second, on SPOTFIRE, there is still EUR 47 million left to deliver for you to achieve your 2024 target of EUR 80 million. So should we think about phasing in Q3 and Q4? I guess everyone will be interested to see if it's possible that you deliver another quarter below EUR 20 million, which you had in Q1.

And also within that target, can you give us a bit more detail on the expected contribution from McKesson? And lastly, on respiratory season, have you seen any impact on your sales in Q3 from the flu COVID wave? And a quick word on current trading would be helpful. What's reflected in your guidance in terms of intensity of the flu season? Thank you.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Maybe, Guillaume, you start with the first question on EBIT growth for H2.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Yes, I understand, if I understand well, the question, it's about comparing the margin of H2 versus H1. So yes, we saw this and actually re-looked at it and recalculate. Actually it's a bit technical, but it's back to FX. Unfortunately, it's linked to the effect. First you see, you might see if you do only a constant rate calculation on H2, that seems lower in margin than H1. Actually, I think it's a technical effect due to average rate of the period, H1 or H2, versus average rate for the year.

When we look at it, either looking at it at current rates or even at our, let's say, internal budget rates, H 2 margins are the same, in our forecast, I should say, than H 1. On your second-

Hugo Solvet
Executive Director of Head of Medical Technologies and Services, BNP Paribas

Just a quick follow-up, sorry, on that. That means virtually you're expecting 17% margin at constant exchange rate on my math in H2, which is no margin extension, H2 2024 over H2 2023. So just wondering what would hold back the margin here, excluding FX?

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

So sorry, you're on H2 2024 versus H2 2023?

Hugo Solvet
Executive Director of Head of Medical Technologies and Services, BNP Paribas

Correct exchange rate.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

I will recap, but for me, we are expanding the margin at the, on an organic basis, of course. Yes, yes. There will still be some expansion of margin in H 2 2024 versus H 2 2023 in our forecast.

Hugo Solvet
Executive Director of Head of Medical Technologies and Services, BNP Paribas

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Your question on SPOTFIRE. So as I said, we have complemented the menu on SPOTFIRE. We have now four panels, respiratory 5-plex, respiratory 15-plex, sore throat 5-plex, sore throat 15-plex. Our commercial setup is in place with McKesson in the U.S., so that the teams of McKesson are working together with the teams of bioMérieux. Q2 is a very low quarter in many regards, for obvious reasons, because there is very limited respiratory season. So it's the end of the respiratory season. It's usually is where the weakest quarter in terms of installations, in terms of sales. So what we're actually seeing is a strong summer, and we are very comfortable with confirming our target for EUR 80 million.

Because in Q4, I mean, Q3, and mostly in Q4, talking about phasing, you will start to see the respiratory season ramping up. And obviously, our installed base in Q4 2024 is going to be significantly bigger than what we had in Q4 2023. So that's, yeah, that's, we expect Q3 to be better, Q4 to be even better because it's mostly respiratory, so to reach €80 million targets for the end of the year. And last question on epidemiology. Actually, we are seeing respiratory season that has been relatively strong this year versus 2023. 2023 was actually very high in December, January, but then fell in February, March. And we are seeing a good dynamic that fully translates into respiratory sales. Again, 14%.

Actually, what we're also seeing, which is not reassuring, but which is confirming what we've been seeing in the last few months, is the traction on respiratory panel doesn't come at the expense of SPOTFIRE sales. They are very complementary segments, and they are both doing very well. Hope that answers your question.

Hugo Solvet
Executive Director of Head of Medical Technologies and Services, BNP Paribas

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to Maja Pataki with Kepler.

Maja Pataki
Head of Medical Devices Sector and Deputy Head of Swiss Research, Kepler Cheuvreux

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I have two, please. One, on BIOFIRE. You have remarkable results in Q2. I was wondering if you could share some feedback from yourselves in the field, whether you can see the step up in competition in the U.S. with your competitors now offering also additional panels and DiaSorin in the market with respiratory. That's my first question, and the second question, maybe it's a bit of a weird question, but I'm nevertheless surprised that in Q2, you did not manage to place more SPOTFIRE instruments. Given the fact that you're in a ramp-up phase, I understand the seasonality impact and everything, but it's not like you know, you have a very mature position in the market already.

I guess there are a lot of people you can be talking to. Is it that people are just or the hospitals are just not doing the investments right now? Or, how do I, you know, how do I think about that? Thank you.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Thank you, Maria. Good afternoon. Let me start with your first question, BIOFIRE Q2. I mean, like you, we're hearing a lot of the competitive noise, right? And like you, what we're seeing is a very strong performance of BIOFIRE. So it's probably early days to assess the impact of DiaSorin launch or GI panel in the U.S. What I can say on our side is we are still getting a very positive feedback of the competitiveness of our solution. And what I can say is when there is epidemiology, they are massively using our solutions. And what I can say is, as I shared earlier, we managed to install as many instruments in H1 as we installed in H1, like in H1 2023.

So, until now, we don't see a massive disruption from a competitive perspective. That's the way I would phrase it. And of course, we're watching it and we are looking at it, but we don't see it. The second question on SPOTFIRE. No, it's not a weird question. It's a good question, actually. Yes, the number of installations in Q2 is lower. It's actually very consistent with what we expect. Q2, by construction, the market is slow, so even though we believe we have a very attractive offering, there are very few clinics that equip themselves with respiratory instruments in Q2.

They are just exiting the respiratory season, so the installation come back, especially, I mean, as you can hear with my French accent, we are not. I'm not a U.S. citizen, but with the go back to school, it's really starting in August, September, and Q4. While we had maybe a lower level of installations, we keep building a very strong pipeline for 2024 and 2025. So, it's not for us a red flag or even a yellow flag. It's just a normal process, and as I said earlier, very aligned with our plan and very comfortable with a target of €80 million sales by the end of 2024.

Maja Pataki
Head of Medical Devices Sector and Deputy Head of Swiss Research, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, thank you very much.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

The summer installations, even though we are commenting Q2, the summer installations are increasing.

Maja Pataki
Head of Medical Devices Sector and Deputy Head of Swiss Research, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, good to hear.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Which is exactly what we expected.

Operator

We'll go next to Ayesha Noor with Morgan Stanley.

Ayesha Noor
Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. It's Ayesha Noor from Morgan Stanley. I had three questions. My first one is on microbiology. Are you able to confirm if you won additional share of VITEK placements in the quarter due to some competitor supply shortages? And has this impact, if any, continued into September? The second question is on the industrial business. So some of your peers have seen a slowdown in order trends from large pharma companies in the quarter, and I noticed your equipment growth was down 17% in the first half of the year. Just wanted to know if you've seen any signs of slowdown or R&D budget tightening in the pharma segment of your industrial business, and whether you've had to take lower pricing or discounting in this segment, in the period.

The third one is a bigger picture question on 2025. Appreciate it's early days, but if you think about the positive market dynamics you're seeing right now, 14% respiratory sales is quite extraordinary. Pricing growth of 4% is quite strong, and your new sales guide implies you will exit the year at around 9% organic growth, which puts you well ahead of this GO28 target of 7%. Which of these elements do you think are sustainable into 2025? And could we be looking at a similarly elevated growth for next year versus the midterm target? Thank you.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Sure. Thank you for your questions. So I'll start with microbiology. So yes, as you point out, we have a competitor that has been dealing with supply chain challenges. Obviously, we have been confronted with that. We share actually supplier for our raw bottles in blood culture. The benefit that we have is that we are multiple sourcing, so we have additional vendor help us to cope with the demand. As we share, we have very strong dynamic, so we are. And we've confirmed that with our clients. We are in a position where we can definitely supply the increased demand that we are seeing.

We are watching the situation to make sure that we don't put our customers at any point in time at risk. On our side, we are very comfortable with the capacity to supply the customers. Industrial applications. Yes, I mean, to your point, we've seen a little bit of a slowdown in pharma. We had a very, very strong performance in 20 23. There is a little bit of a base impact, but we are seeing a little bit of slowdown. It shows in instruments. As Guillaume was mentioning earlier, we see a little bit of softness in instruments overall, not only pharma. We are seeing good traction on reagents, including in pharma.

So, to your question, we don't anticipate a massive, significant slowdown that would be noticeable to you guys, for our pharma applications. And third question, that's an easy one, 2025. Obviously, it's very early days, as you point out. We've just communicated a GO28 ambition in April. Very glad to report back a very strong H1. And, I mean, it would be definitely anticipated to make any change to the GO28 ambition. But, let's say we start with a strong foot and the right foot, to be able to deliver the GO28 ambition that we have.

Ayesha Noor
Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you very much.

Operator

We'll go next to Kavya Deshpande with UBS.

Kavya Deshpande
Director, UBS Investment Bank

Okay, this is Kavya from UBS. Thank you for taking my questions. I've got two, please. The first one was just on the share of sort of SPOTFIRE installations this quarter by setting. I think in Q1 that you've said it was 75% of installations were in outpatient sites. Would you be able to provide a similar update for this quarter by any chance? And then my second question was on the VITEK REVEAL. I was just wondering if you could give us a sense of how you're going to be approaching distribution, please, whether you'll be leveraging your existing sales reps, and any kind of update on the early demand that you're seeing. Thank you.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Sorry, can you say again? Can you repeat your question on SPOTFIRE? What was your question exactly?

Kavya Deshpande
Director, UBS Investment Bank

Oh, yes. It was just the percentage of installations that were in outpatient settings this quarter. I think you'd said in Q1, it was 75%.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

So I'm not sure we share that level of detail, but overall, we still have a blend of outpatients, and we still... I don't know if it's a majority, but it's actually very well split between pure outpatients and lab settings, so no significant change in Q2. And again, Q2 is a bit of a low basis for because we have fewer installations, but it's a more general answer to your question is we're still seeing an opportunity for SPOTFIRE in both segments, point of care and decentralized setting within the hospitals. On your second question for VITEK REVEAL, it's actually a beautiful complementary solution into microbiology offering. So we definitely want to leverage a commercial go-to-market. It comes together, VITEK REVEAL, with VITEK MS PRIME, with VIRTUO, with VITEK.

It's very much the same teams, very much the same marketing, and the overall plan, as we're launching, is to leverage the resources that we have already in place to market the product in the U.S.

Kavya Deshpande
Director, UBS Investment Bank

Thank you very much.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

There is a written question you want?

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Yeah.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Yeah.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Jennifer, there is a written question. So, from Arnaud Cadart, CIC. So one question, please, on the audit you are running on the U.S. activities, what is the problem, and what should we expect? Management changes, more procedures. I don't know, Pierre?

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Yes, I can.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

This one.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Happy to take it and, to give a little bit of color and context. So, during the summer, while we were closing our accounts in the U.S., we have identified, internally, shortcomings on internal control and compliance matters. So we triggered immediately internal verifications, and obviously, for obvious reasons, but also in the context of the closing of the accounts. We have identified only non-material impacts on our major accounts. They have been fully integrated into our financial statements, and, they were obviously reviewed by, external auditors. So moving forward, while the internal investigations are ongoing, we feel confident enough to revise the group guidance upward, as we just commented and stated in the press release.

Overall, I should say, in a spirit of transparency and trustworthy financial communication with our shareholders, which is very much in the DNA of bioMérieux, we felt it was appropriate to mention it. So obviously, no comment on what we should expect because we need to run those investigations. Other written question?

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

No written question. Maybe one on VITEK REVEAL. You gave a bit of an update already, Pierre, but it's... The question is, would you confirm the P&L you are expecting for VITEK REVEAL following FDA decision, i.e., EUR 20 million losses and equilibrium in 2026?

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

What I can mention, but we don't follow a P&L for Reveal. What I can mention is we continue to invest in this solution, and yes, the 20 million is approximately the amount of R&D that we spend to continue to support and develop the fast-

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

... AST solution. We are very glad to have the FDA approval this year, which definitely opens the full US market, of course, being the main one for this solution, but it's just been opened now for commercial launch. So we'll see how we developed. We had given a target around EUR 60 million in 2027 back at the capital markets day for the sales, let's say, ambition. Any other questions from the call?

Operator

Yes. We'll go next to Anna Bain with Barclays.

Anna Bain
VP and EU SMID Research, Barclays

Hello. Thanks. Anna Bain with Barclays on behalf of Gaurav Jain. Thanks for the call, and thanks for taking our question. Firstly, I guess if we could just dig down a little bit in terms of business lines. Previously, you were guiding to respiratory panels being slightly down this year and non-respiratory BIOFIRE panels being up 15%. Just wanted to confirm whether the bulk of the upgrade of your guidance was being driven by BIOFIRE. And additionally, within industrial applications, your previous guidance was 9% growth this year. Is it fair to expect that you're now looking at a slightly lower growth level this year? That would be my first question. The second question really is around price increases in micro and industrial.

You've obviously continued to have pretty strong pricing here, and just wondering how sustainable you view this is into the end of the year and into next year. Thanks very much.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

On guidance by business line. Basically, our upgrade, and I think we mentioned it in the slide, without being resetting each of the different guidance, but we said, where is the upgrade to 8-10% coming from? Obviously, as we said, we are surprised by the very good performance of RP beyond our expectation for this year. So definitely respiratory BIOFIRE, we see today higher than we thought a few months ago. Second, non-respiratory as well is performing very well and slightly above expectations. You remember our expectations for the year were around 15%, we are significantly above. Microbiology, as Pierre mentioned already, we are also slightly above expectations. These are all the positives.

We should mention also a negative VIDAS. We had said that we would be flat. Now we see it probably slightly negative for the year. So VIDAS are the immunoassays for everyone. And it's a blend of all these, slightly better on those and just small effects, but immunoassays that make this upgrade to 8%-10% range for the organic growth. Second question was on prices. So the second question, can you say again, what was exactly your question on industrial application pricing increase?

Anna Bain
VP and EU SMID Research, Barclays

Yeah, it seems like micro and industrial both continue to see quite strong pricing dynamics. I'm just wondering how sustainable you view this for the second half of the year and into next year? And maybe if I could just tag on one more, you know, respiratory pricing. I think that's also held up pretty well and been pretty strong for you guys. So any sort of thoughts around how you expect respiratory pricing in molecular to evolve going forward, especially given sort of increased competition, would be great.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Okay. On the micro and industrial application prices, I would say at least for H2, we see, let's say, similar trends to be pursued. And on the respiratory pricing, I can mention that, we said, slightly below 1%. So let's say close to 1% negative overall. Even the U.S. alone for RP is about, is between 1% and 2% negative, so which is basically what we were saying for already several times. So it's similar, not less, not more. Yeah. We have time to take more questions.

Operator

And we'll go next to Jan Koch with Deutsche Bank.

Jan Koch
VP of Equity Research, Deutsche Bank AG

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I also have three, if I may. The first one is coming back to your new guidance, which implies a deceleration of sales and adjusted EBIT growth in H2. Is that your typical conservatism, or is there anything we should consider here? And then secondly, on the increased FX headwinds to earnings, it seems like the situation doesn't really improve. Are you willing to exit some of your smaller countries where you face hyperinflation, such as Egypt? And I understand that your margin profile in Argentina is quite attractive. How attractive is it in other countries where you're facing a hyperinflation? And then lastly, on M&A, there are some concerns in the market that you could go for a bigger acquisition in an area where you currently do not yet operate in.

Could you remind us of your M&A criteria and what exactly are you looking here for?

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Okay, thank you. So I'll start with your first question on the new guidance. I want to qualify your level of conservatism, but what you need to understand is that H2 is very much impacted by the respiratory season. We have a significant share of our sales that is impacted by the magnitude of the respiratory season. And as I was sharing.

... earlier, actually, November till January was very strong last year, so it creates a bit of a baseline that is a bit of a comparison factor, and we assumed a normal respiratory season for H2. So obviously, and that's why we give a range. If the respiratory season is stronger, we would be in the higher range of the range. If the respiratory season is lower than a normal season, which honestly, at this stage of the year is possible, we would be in the lower range. So that's the way we approach it, and you have to take that into account. Significant sales in Q4 and actually to be, it's even what, in a way, even more painful, it's really November, December, that is moving the needle in terms of sales dynamics.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Second question on FX headwind and consequences in terms of geographic footprints, Guillaume-

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Yes, on hyperinflation. So, for us, it's important that we monitor that closely. It's important that we're able to, especially on the hyperinflation countries, to actually be able to increase prices to offset the local cost inflation, as well as the imports from our U.S. and European plants or products, which of course are much higher locally with the devaluation. So that's why we monitor, as long as we are able to, let's say, compensate, and therefore maintain overall, at least, on a reported basis, a profitable business, we will maintain. But again, we keep open eyes and open mind.

If there is a country where we see that it's not possible to actually have a reasonably profitable business, we could take other decisions. But at this stage, no, no, nothing to report in this category.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

And on your third question on M&A, obviously, always a little bit challenging to comment on the M&A agenda in a public call. But I understand your question. We have a very ambitious strategic plan, as you know. So obviously we are looking at any M&A opportunity in the spirit of it needs to make sense from a strategic perspective, in the spirit of which we described on April ninth. It also needs to make sense from a financial perspective, impact on our sales growth, impact on our profitability, impact on our debt level. So those elements are definitely in our mind, and this is pretty much where we are.

Jan Koch
VP of Equity Research, Deutsche Bank AG

Got it.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

And maybe just to add to that, in the spirit of what I said, because there was a little bit of question on April 9th. As the CEO of the company, my very first priority is to execute properly go-to-market plan. I mean, we're very happy to look into M&A opportunities if and when they contribute, support what we want to do from a strategic perspective.

Jan Koch
VP of Equity Research, Deutsche Bank AG

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to Marianne Bulot with Bank of America.

Marianne Bulot
Research Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you very much for taking my question. I have two, please. The first one is I just wanted to double check that your midterm guidance of at least 10% EBIT growth is still valid for next year. Asking simply because you raised the guidance for this year, so it makes it a bit of a tougher comp for 2025. And then, the second question, I just wondered if you could talk a little bit more about the SPOTFIRE opportunity in Japan, and what are the expectations you have for this market? Thank you.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Cool. Guillaume, you want to talk about the first one and the guidance, at least 10% for 20 25 or the years to come?

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Yes. And again, it's our commitment to go for this at least 10%. So we do confirm, of course.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Yes.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

It's a year-on-year improvement that we will target.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

So you're right, we'll have a higher basis, and we're still committed to deliver at least 10% year- on- year. On your second question on Japan, good question. It's actually a niche. It's probably the second biggest market in the world for point-of-care. There is a point-of-care market which is reimbursed, which is organized. So, and I think it's fair to say that teams have been very successful in getting both BIOFIRE. By the way, for BIOFIRE, Japan is the second biggest market after the U.S. We've been very successful in getting SPOTFIRE approved, for respiratory, not yet for throat. We are working on getting throat in Japan. We are seeing a good level of traction, as I said, significant share of install base there.

We have a good pipeline with some deals coming up in Q3 and Q4. We haven't communicated on specific targets for Japan, but definitely a geography that is an opportunity for us to deploy our SPOTFIRE solution internationally.

Marianne Bulot
Research Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, thank you very much.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

There is a written question on SpinChip. I'm being asked to answer it, so it's I, it reads: Could you please give some color on your recent investment in the capital of SpinChip Diagnostics? So we've acquired 20% of the capital of SpinChip. It's a company from Norway that is developing a point-of-care immunoassay system that we see as very promising, very competitive. We've looked at multiple companies and technologies in the field of point-of-care immunoassay. As you know, in point of care, you don't only have molecular, you have also a lot of immunoassay solution. So back to the strategy, M&A question that we had, we obviously look at this field with high level of interest because complementing our SPOTFIRE solution together with an immunoassay point-of-care solution would make tremendous sense.

We are very glad with the progress that is being made by SpinChip. They are running a clinical trial as we speak. We have one board member, and we follow up very well. We have very close relationship with the team. So, it's a, it's a financial investment, but it's also very much a strategic investment. Nothing much more to comment at this stage, but very glad with the investment that we made and very excited actually by what they could bring to the market.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Maybe one last question, Jennifer, if you have one.

Operator

Yes. We'll go next to Shubhangi Gupta with HSBC. Your line is open.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Maybe he left the call. Yeah. I have to confess, we're running late. We'll stop there. Yeah. So thank you very much. Very... Thank you for the good discussion and the good questions. We'll probably meet some of you in the next few days in the context of the roadshow. Looking forward to a future interactions, and, have a good day. Bye-bye.

Guillaume Bouhours
CFO, bioMérieux

Bye.

Pierre Boulud
CEO, bioMérieux

Thank you.

Aymeric Fichet
Head of Investor Relations, bioMérieux

Bye-bye.

Operator

This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.

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