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Earnings Call: Q4 2018

Feb 21, 2019

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for being here. Without further ado, let us give you a presentation of our 2018 results. It's always pleasant to present the results when they're good. Some key figures, of course, the group's profitability improved in Q4, which made it possible for our current operating profit to come out ahead at year's end, rather we expected it to come down slightly or at least to be stable. Current operating profit, even restated with the 49% for the capital gains on the 49% sale of Axione to Mirova, is still up. This was a good year in all our business areas in terms of sales. The board of directors will be proposing a dividend of EUR 1.7 per share, stable compared with 2017. Let's look at the key figures for 2018. First of all, sales.

EUR 36 billion, up 8% compared to 2017, mainly due to acquisitions conducted in 2018. If you correct for these acquisitions, on a constant exchange rate basis, we'd end up with a 3% improvement in revenue. Current operating profit stands at EUR 1.511 billion, compared with EUR 1.406 billion in 2017, thanks to Bouygues Telecom's outstanding performance. This includes a EUR 106 million capital gains, resulting from the sales of the 49% of our Axione stake. Current operating profit in 2017 included EUR 28 million in capital gains with the sale of 50% of Nextdoor. If you correct for these two one-off items, current operating profit for the group was up EUR 27 million over the year.

Operating performance for all three business areas in Q4 made it possible to offset some of the challenges we met in three projects at Bouygues Energies & Services, and indeed in specialty activities in Colas in France that we encountered in Q3. Operating profit includes EUR 250 million related to capital gains from the sales of mobile sites and FTTH infrastructure at Bouygues Telecom, plus EUR 60 million for the one-off bonus granted to our employees, 34,000 of them. This was included, recognized in the 2018 accounts, even though they were only paid out in 2019. Net profit attributable to the group stands at EUR 1.311 billion, up EUR 229 million for the year. As a whole, if you, again, correct for one-off items, it was still up EUR 139 million.

The group's performance over 2018 was up, thanks to the significant improvement in current operating profit in all three business areas in Q4. As you can see on this slide, current operating profit in Q4 was up EUR 218 million year-on-year. If you correct that for the capital gains of the 49% of Axione, it's still up EUR 112 million, so 20% or 24%, and again, that improvement was recognized throughout the group. Regarding the financial position, it is sound. Net debt at end December 2018 stood at EUR 3.7 billion, better than expected. This EUR 1.7 billion increase over the year is all to do with acquisitions conducted over the year. We still have about EUR 10 billion in cash available, so we have a very satisfactory cash position.

By way of conclusion, let me just say that the board of directors will be proposing a dividend of EUR 1.7 per share for the year 2018. This policy consists in increasing dividend regularly and reasonably, or at least maintain that dividend even in challenging times. We have looked at the yield of the Bouygues share in 2018. It stands at 5.4%. It is one of the most profitable CAC 40 stocks. Total shareholder return stands at 2% over two years and 44% for five years, which is right in the average of the CAC 40. Olivier Roussat will give you a review of the operational performance. Good morning, everyone. Let's start with the construction business and the backlog. At end December 2018, that stood at a record high EUR 33.1 billion, up 5% over one year. In fact, 7% on a constant exchange rate basis.

Olivier Roussat
Deputy CEO, Bouygues

That includes EUR 1.8 billion in the order books of Miller McAsphalt, Alpiq, and A.W. Edwards. Even restated of these three actors, it's still up 3%. The share of Bouygues Construction and Colas' order books internationally stands at 61% compared to 57% a year ago. Regarding the order book in France, the backlog in France at end December 2018 was stable at EUR 14.4 billion. Bouygues Construction was slightly down, not including Axione. On this slide, you have a picture of a contract we won in Q4, the development of the Ivry Confluence neighborhood, worth EUR 88 million. In a context where the residential market is slightly down and some of the property projects were passed on from 2018 to 2019. We end up with an order book for Bouygues Immobilier down 8% year-on-year.

Regarding Colas' backlog, that was up 8%, mostly because of the road activities, but also new orders in the railway business. In Q4, Colas won a contract for the restoration of the runway number 3 at Orly, EUR 52 million. Looking at the market abroad, the group is in a good position. We have an order book worth EUR 18.8 billion at end December, up 13% over the year, 5% on a constant exchange rate and not including McAsphalt, Alpiq, and A.W. Edwards. That includes significant orders for Q4, such as the building of a motorway in Istria in Croatia, EUR 167 million, and Bouygues Construction, that was Bouygues Construction on a bigger part, and then we built a tramway in Liege for Colas with EUR 266 million. Looking at construction activities in Q4 2018, current operating profit for construction was up EUR 145 million over the year.

That include EUR 106 million in capital gains due to the partial disposal of Axione. If you correct for that, it was still up EUR 39 million. That improvement for Bouygues Construction reflects a good performance in public works, but also positive contribution of Bouygues Energies & Services. For Colas, we have improved profitability on the road business in France. Current operating profit in Bouygues Immobilier is down, but that's because there was one property project that should have taken place in Q4 2018, and in fact was postponed to Q1 2019. Let's look at the key figures for 2018. Revenue for the construction business stood at EUR 28 billion, up 8% year-on-year. That is due, of course, to new acquisitions, but on a constant scope and exchange rate basis, it was still up 3%. Current operating profit stood at EUR 915 million, so that's down EUR 28 million.

If you correct for the Nextdoor effect in 2017 and the Axione effect in 2018, we would be down EUR 106 million, that's because we encountered difficulties on three major sites in October in Energie and Services. Also some challenges we encountered in specialty businesses in Colas and Colas Rail, that was in Q3 2018. Current operating profit, as expected, is down 60 basis points, that doesn't challenge our views about our long and medium-term outlook as we explained on our Capital Markets Day. On this slide, we will tell you just why we are confident in the outlook for the construction business in the long and medium term. There are three positive trends underlying that belief. Number one, there are four major trends, significant urbanization, climate change with many environmental consequences, also digital transformation, new uses of the technology.

In many mature markets, we have significant stimulus plans that have been introduced to bring about or to build new infrastructure. Some of these plans were postponed somewhat, we're still looking at significant amounts, even if they have been revised downwards. There's a real need for new infrastructure or to maintain existing infrastructure. Some of the incidents that we found in the winter show that it is very much necessary to revisit some of the infrastructure. We're looking at a longer, more complex, more sophisticated projects. You have sophisticated tunnels and bridges, high buildings. You need to propose or offer integrated offers for big buildings or smart cities or eco-neighborhoods. You have a high need for maintenance for infrastructure and buildings. That means that requires more expertise, which means there are higher entry barriers.

Because these are long-term projects, there's less cyclicality. That means there's less competition, that gives us also more visibility. This also means that over the long term, profit margins should be sustainable. In this context, our own position as a developer, as a builder, and indeed as an operator, provides us with significant competitive advantages. We're in a position to complete sophisticated projects, and we are leaders in tunnel building worldwide. We have specific know-how in sustainable construction. We have positive energy buildings. We have eco-neighborhoods. We are the ones who invented Wattway, the solar road, smart grids, building renovation, and the reuse of materials as part of the circular economy. We can do all that. We can also offer integrated comprehensive solutions to our customers at every step of the value chain.

We have a significant know-how to run a huge ecosystem, we've seen with Colas when we worked together with many startups as part of a project that we won in end 2018. That position means that we can keep a direct relationship with the customer, which is a significant item at a time when the construction industry is facing significant disintermediation now. Our own position means that we are rather protected from that. In this positive context, this is a time for refocusing and adapting. We propose to develop our more value-creating activities as smart cities, eco-neighborhoods, and smart roads. In 2019, there were three significant acquisitions, Miller McAsphalt for Colas, Alpiq for Bouygues Construction, the cables for Colas, A.W. Edwards for Bouygues Construction. In that year, there were a number of managerial changes.

We have a new team running Bouygues Immobilier with Pascal Minault, and we have a new managing director for Bouygues Energies & Services. He arrived earlier this year. He has got significant experience in that field, and he will be running that business in France. 2019 will be a year, as I said, of refocusing, adapting our business to improve profitability in the construction business. Colas is repositioning Colas Rail France, diversifying the customer base, also in the Grand Paris contract. We are not just facing SNCF, there is other competitors. We are refocusing our activities. We have sold part of our freight activities, we have also sold off some non-strategic items such as Smac. We want to be in a position to develop our business where we have a new capital agreement with Mirova that enables us to be present in France on that market.

TF1 now. We have had the results presented a couple of weeks ago. Revenue stood at EUR 2.3 billion, up 7% thanks to the good performance of our advertising revenue on all five free-to-air channels. We have, of course, premium agreements with all operators, telco operators, and Canal+. TF1 was reinforced in its production and digital businesses. Current operating profit was up EUR 11 million over one year, which is quite remarkable in a year where you have a major supporting event such as the World Cup or the Football Cup. That means that TF1 was able to keep its programming costs under control. Current operating profit was stable at 8.6%, but if you correct that for the World Cup, it would be as high as 11.7%. Group operating profit stood at EUR 174 million.

Having recognized EUR 22 million in non-recurring expenses, which is depreciation of the audiovisual rights that were reassessed as part of the acquisition of Newen Studios. For 2019, the guidance for current operating profit is double digit again. TF1 has also confirmed its strategy on its core business, on which it is well-positioned because it is in a unique position in Europe because, of course, of a very broad audience, but very rich content in all areas, news, drama, sports, movies. It is also in a good position on that market, offering significant growth opportunities. If you look at the per capital expense, France is below Germany, England. We have more potential than other European countries in France. We have two advertising agencies, TF1 and Unify. Thanks to that, we can broaden our advertising revenue sources.

TF1 is also, next to the flagship, you have two boosters. You have this three-hull trimaran, if I can use that comparison. We, of course, are boosting our production and distribution activity, especially with Newen, because we have more visibility, longer cycles, we have our new digital business that is developing. Thanks to that, we can offer an additional offer for web surfers, that means there is also an offer for advertisers who can now gain new grounds in the digital universe, which is enjoying significant growth. Moving on to Bouygues Telecom now. In 2018, our commercial momentum continued with both mobile and fixed lines. In the mobile business, we gained an additional 2 million customers in 2018, including 587,000 in Q4. At the end December 2018, the total customers we have had as many as 16.4 million customers for mobile.

If you remove machine-to-machine, the number of contract customers were 10.9 million customers with 573,000 new customers in 2018, including 121,000 in Q4. Regarding the fixed telephony, Bouygues Telecom sped up its gains of new customers in FTTH with an additional 102,000 customers in Q4. That's the best quarter ever since fiber was launched. The penetration rate of FTTH, the orange curve, doubled in one year. We have as many as 569,000 customers, FTTH customers at end 2018. Fixed customers, we have 3.7 million customers at end December 2018, up 235,000 year-on-year, including 73 new customers in Q4. Of course, we're trying to reach out to the largest possible number of customers with a high speed. We have secured 30.6 million new premises. Secure means that the contracts that we have mean that we can develop and market these premises once they are connected.

We're looking here at 10.6 additional premises compared with last year. We are looking at 7.2 million marketed premises over the year, 3.2 million more than last year. In Q4 2018, Bouygues Telecom secured 100% of the access to the high density area, thanks to a partnership agreement with the CityFast concerning as many as 3.4 million premises. Now that is CityFast is held jointly by Mirova and Bouygues Construction. We have an agreement with them. The objective is 12 million premises marketed by end 2019 and 20 million by 2022. We can confirm that objective. The next slide is a bit complicated, but we've got at this because there was some misinformation about the way this business works. Maybe they misunderstood, maybe they were doing deliberately, but this is how the very dense area is addressed. This is different from our competitors. There's two approaches there.

50% of the business, we have agreements with SFR, mostly SFR, and some agreements with Orange. There's co-investment, that's fixed cost. This is CapEx, but it's a fixed cost, meaning that the more customers we have, the lower the unit cost. The other part, 50% of the very dense area, that's the agreement with CityFast. That means we can access the network for as long as 30 years. This is an annual fixed cost, but that's passed as OpEx. It's fixed OpEx, again, meaning if you look, if we have more customers, again, the unit cost comes down again. In both cases, both in the very dense area, unlike what our competitors have been saying, we're looking at fixed costs, some on OpEx and the other half in CapEx. In both cases, the more customers we have, the lower the unit cost.

That's very much in line with our competitors. Back to the financial performance. EBITDA was up EUR 171 million over the one year at EUR 1.268 billion. The EBITDA margin almost 30%, up 2.8 percentage points, and this is thanks to the service revenue up 5%. Also we were able to keep our cost structure under control. Current operating profits stood at EUR 431 million, up EUR 111 million. Regarding operating profit, that included EUR 250 million in non-recurring income to do with the capital gains of disposals of mobile and FTTH infrastructure. Gross CapEx stood at EUR 1.2 billion as expected, and free cash flow was EUR 188 million, up EUR 131 million. Bouygues Telecom is in a good position to reach its objective of EUR 300 million in free cash flow by 2019. This is something we announced as early as 2015. What are the strategic dimensions of our approach?

We want to differentiate our offer with a better customer experience. We have reliable networks. We want to boost regional development by bridging the digital divide and developing our B2B business. How to improve customer experience? As part of our strategy, what we propose to do at Bouygues Telecom is to stand out from the competition. As many as 200 projects were started to improve customer experience and meet customer expectations more rapidly. There are many areas that have shown up where there is room for improvement to improve customer experience. That includes the promise of having internet no matter what with what we call the 4G boxes that can make up for the lack of network, or we extend the working hours so that customers can call later in the day to talk to someone. We want to be able to improve that experience.

We have by 2023 as many as 28,000 radio sites. As I said, we have 12 million FTTH premises marketed by 2019, 20 million by 2022. We'll have all these transmitters to cover even remote areas, and we've been recognized as the number one network in rural areas, and number two on average in France, according to the latest ARCEP survey that was conducted in October 2018. We want to step up our B2B business. We propose to broaden our market share in companies where we only have 3% as we speak. For the fixed business, that means there's a huge potential. We're looking here at a market which only has two main players. We propose to capitalize on our presence in mobile to extend our reach in fixed.

We provide equipment to one company in three on the CAC 40 and 3% of medium-sized companies. We can develop that business, we have partnerships to look at various areas related to B2B telecom in security, digital, and cloud computing. We also have developed what is known as fiber to the office, FTTO, for the fixed business in SMEs. We have acquired Keyyo to do just that, but we acquired Nerim this morning, you may have heard in the news. For this to happen, we have a dedicated structure. 1,300 people working because the B2B universe is rather different than the general public universe. You need lots of more customized approaches, which is not the case for general public. You need to have distributors. These are specialized people who can sell specific technical solutions.

We have an international alliance with Telefónica to, again, reach out to major international accounts because Bouygues Telecom is only present in France. That means that we have a higher satisfaction rate amongst our customers for small and medium-sized companies. In the big companies, the NPS score is much better than that of our competitors, according to the latest survey conducted, the INOV survey that was conducted in October 2018. Philippe Marien has the floor for the financials.

Philippe Marien
Deputy CEO, Bouygues

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Just a few words I'd like to add on our financial statements. Sales up 8%, reported up 8% largely due to the acquisitions we made in 2018. On a like-for-like basis, growth was actually 3%. Current operating profit at EUR 1.511 billion is up EUR 105 million by comparison with 2017. This figure includes a major transaction at the end of the year, namely the sale of the 49% in the share capital of Axione to Mirova. This had two consequences, a capital gain on the sale of the shares themselves, and a reappraisal or remeasurement of the remaining 51% that we have retained in Axione given the valuation of this disposal. In 2017, we had a similar transaction with Nextdoor. Nextdoor is the subsidiary owned by Bouygues Immobilier and Coworkings.

As I said earlier on, if you restate the figures for these two transactions, one in 2017, one in 2018, our current operating profit actually rose EUR 27 million. This is because of the fact that the last quarter of 2018 was more satisfactory from the operational point of view than we expected at the end of Q3. We announced to the markets that given the difficulties we had with the three projects at Bouygues Energies & Services and at Colas Rail, that we expected current operating profit to be stable or fractionally down. In actual fact, current operating profit rose independently of these two disposals. Other operating income of profit EUR 265 million. This mainly includes the EUR 250 million capital gain at Bouygues Telecom, capital gain on the sale of mobile sites in the framework of its agreement with Cellnex. Operating profit up EUR 257 million.

Cost of net debt slightly lower than last year, which has an impact on financial income is fractionally higher, financial expense is fractionally lower. Income tax was up to EUR 427 million due to the improved operating profit, of course, which gives us an effective rate of tax of 27%. If we restate that rate of income tax for Axione, which had a very low rate of taxation, and apply it to the outstanding equity stake, the effective rate of tax will be 29%, which is very close to a normative level of taxation. Share of net profit of joint ventures and associates, EUR 303 million mainly Alstom's contribution of EUR 230 million, a figure that we already knew at September 30th, because our share in Alstom is known from the moment Alstom publishes its results. In other words, at the end of March and the end of September.

Nothing new since the start of Q4. Overall net profit up substantially at EUR 1.311 billion. Restated for all exceptional items, non-current operating items, capital gains on disposals, the Axione transaction in 2018. If we can compare, also restating for the transaction in 2017, you'll see that the group's net profit attributable to the group is actually up EUR 139 million, which is in line with what we announced at the start of the year. In early 2018, we told the markets that our goal for 2018 was to improve the group's results, which we have achieved despite the difficulties announced in the third quarter. This brings me to the balance sheet. Obviously, acquisitions have had a major impact on the balance sheet. Miller McAsphalt at Colas, Alpiq Engineering Services, and of course, aufeminin in the case of TF1.

Non-current assets rose by over EUR 1.8 billion. Property, plant and equipment rose EUR 774 million, of which EUR 400 million were due to the tangible fixed assets at Bouygues Telecom. This is the investment we made in the networks, both mobile and fixed, by the way. The remainder, the EUR 317 million outstanding, being due to the booking of fixed assets at Miller McAsphalt, Alpiq, and aufeminin, now carried on the Bouygues accounts. Likewise, with goodwill, which rose quite substantially by over EUR 900 million. It includes, of course, the three acquisitions, which led to this increase in goodwill. EUR 563 million in the case of Alpiq, EUR 90 million in the case of Miller McAsphalt, and around EUR 200 million in respect of aufeminin joining TF1. Investments in joint ventures and associates rose by EUR 131 million, of which over half, EUR 76 million to be more precise, are because of the Axione transaction.

Axione was a wholly owned subsidiary of Bouygues Construction, so fully integrated. The disposal of a 49% equity stake with a shareholder impact, whereby we are jointly managing with Mirova. Even though we have a 51% stake in Axione, it is no longer fully integrated. It is consolidated by the equity method. These assets are now further down the balance sheet from fixed assets to joint ventures and associates. The considerable impact of these three major acquisitions on non-current assets. This brings me to current assets. The net is down, but there are two contrary trends here. Current operating assets rose by over EUR 1.1 billion. This is because of the inclusion of certain acquisitions in our scope of consolidation. Of course, cash on the contrary, has decreased by almost EUR 1.9 billion. This is because of the acquisitions carried out during the period, in particular.

Third impact on the balance sheet this year. We are not talking about acquisitions this time, but about disposals. EUR 332 million in assets and operations held for sale. These are the Smac assets, Smac being the Colas entity that we decided to sell before the end of last year. You will have read last week that the sale has been agreed, it has been signed, and this business will be closed out, or the deal will be closed out in the next few weeks. All these Smac assets are now carried for 2018 under assets held for sale. The EUR 38 million back in 2017 were the remainder of the mobile sites not yet sold to Cellnex. They have since been sold in the course of 2018. Shareholders' equity. I think the variations could be called customary.

Over the period, there is a net profit of EUR 1.45 billion, which increases the shareholders' equity. Dividends paid by Bouygues to minorities at Colas, TF1, and Bouygues Telecom, for a total decrease of shareholders' equity by EUR 712 million. Capital transactions increased shareholders' equity by EUR 169 million. This was the employees' share ownership program that we launched for EUR 150 million in late 2018, and the exercising of stock options over the 2018 financial period. These are three conventional items under shareholders' equity. Two less usual items are, on the one hand, the non-negligible impact that we knew about in September. You will not be surprised, the non-negligible impact of applying two new IFRS standards on Alstom, IFRS 9 and IFRS 15. The biggest impact being that of IFRS 15, which changes the way revenue is recognized at Alstom.

Up to now, Alstom recognized its revenue on the basis of milestones or key events regarding the completion of its work. Under IFRS 15, Alstom now needs to change the way it books revenue. It's based on advances on sales now. IFRS 15, Alstom was somewhat ahead of the new system, this now has to adjust that figure. This, of course, has a EUR 152 million negative impact on shareholders' equity at Bouygues. This is something we already told you about at September 13. On the other hand, there's another impact on shareholders' equity at aufeminin this time as they get them to buy out non-controlling interests. Non-current liabilities includes non-current debt. This is long-term debt, which is down EUR 711 million.

It's down EUR 711 million because, first of all, we have reclassified our EUR 1 billion bond in October of last year, which is no longer under current liabilities, but under non-current. Secondly, this affected TF1. In the course of 2018, TF1 bought out the minorities in Newen. This amounted to EUR 100 million at the end of 2017. Again, a EUR 100 million decrease on 2018. However, a EUR 400 million increase in long-term debt at Colas. This was because of the acquisition of Miller McAsphalt. Liabilities related to assets held for sale. This is Smac for a total of EUR 325 million. All this leaves us with net debt of EUR 3.657 billion. I now propose that we look at how this debt varied over the 2018 financial period. Our net debt was EUR 1.9 billion at year-end 2017. Since then, we have made acquisitions for a total of approximately EUR 1.5 billion.

The three big ones being Miller McAsphalt, Alpiq, and aufeminin. With aufeminin, a number of smaller acquisitions, including Doctissimo more recently, capital transactions for EUR 162 million. This is the cash counterpart of Bouygues Confiance. This is the employee share ownership scheme and the exercising stock options over the period. Dividends paid out, EUR 712 million, which we talked about under shareholders' equity. The final installment of frequency acquisitions, that's a 700 megahertz frequencies for EUR 117 million, operations generated EUR 440 million in cash. That is an increase of EUR 110 million over operations in 2017. Looking now at how this cash was generated, the breakdown is our net cash flow was up by EUR 200 million to EUR 2.488 billion, driven largely by improved cash flow at Bouygues Telecom. CapEx for almost EUR 1.6 billion, up EUR 151 million over 2017, I'll elaborate on that in a few seconds.

A change in working capital requirements which used up EUR 475 million in cash. We actually consumed less cash than we did in 2017. All of this enabling us to improve our operating cash flow by EUR 110 million compared with 2017. I said I'd elaborate on CapEx. Here's the breakdown by business line. Most of the increase in 2018 was the construction business, almost EUR 500 million. Reconstruction almost EUR 200 million, in line with what we told you early in 2018. Gross CapEx of slightly over EUR 1.2 billion, very much in line with what we announced. In construction, two scissor movements here. Reconstruction is really the reflection of the phasing in of the major contracts. Most of the investments in reconstruction, most of what causes variations are the major idle equipment for large projects.

Because of Colas Rail, there was also a turnaround of the business which was partly due to the decrease in freight business and the disposal of a number of locomotives by Colas Rail, which substantially reduced net CapEx. One final technical point for a change, but one I need to explain to you because from January 1st of this year, we are obliged to apply IFRS 16, which is the IFRS standard on lease obligations. It means that leases actually increase assets on the balance sheet while creating debt. It increases assets, but also increases liabilities, and on the income statement, converts rent into amortization plus financial expense. Now, as this has come into force since January 1, 2019, all year, we'll be presenting you with accounts that apply IFRS 16. You'll find in the attachments, you'll find the accounts that we have on the website.

We'll be giving you this breakdown quarter by quarter, which will enable you to compare 2018 with 2019 on a comparable basis. You'll see that our EBITDA increased by EUR 367 million, almost by miracle, because rent is no longer considered a cash out, certainly not by the powers that be. Our EBITDA mechanically increased by EUR 367 million, which is the amortization of rent, or the amount of rent that is amortized. Conversely, current operating profit will increase by EUR 53 million, which actually corresponds to financial expense, because the financial expense on leases will now be carried under financial income and expenses, which will EUR 53 million more. Operating profit, exactly the same, + EUR 53 million. The cost of net debt will increase by EUR 57 million, while the financial expense on leases will actually be carried under the cost of net debt.

Net debt itself will remain virtually unchanged. Giving a few small restatements, the type of amortization and the share of amortization on leases, there's only a very tiny adjustment needs to be made here. Finally, our net debt will increase by EUR 1.6 billion, which corresponds to the current value of the assets that we are leasing. To give you a better grasp of IFRS 16, you may say, "I don't understand why when we adjust for the impact of IFRS 16, we are adjusting by EUR 1.591 billion, but when we do the opposite, when we neutralize the impact of IFRS 16 in the accounts for 2018, the impact is EUR 1.636 billion, not the same figure." The impacts are different because before applying IFRS 16, financial lease was already included in debt. Financial leases were already included in debt.

The new impact of IFRS 16 is EUR 1.591 billion, but the total impact of IFRS 16, which is all leases, is actually over EUR 1.6 billion because we already included this in our previous accounts. Let me reassure you straight away, and so far as all these figures are totally meaningless to us because a lease involves money being paid out, no matter what you want to call it. We will continue to publish all our subtotals and totals on two lines. Before application of IFRS 16 and after application of IFRS 16, which means we'll be in compliance with accounting standards principles, but also report accounts that make sense, particularly as regards cash outs.

Martin, we will talk to you about this when he talks about the outlook, but from our point of view, the free cash flow generated is essential, and in generating free cash flow, while a lease means money leaving the company. That's it. That's what I can say about the accounts as of December 31, 2018, and the application of IFRS 16 from this year onwards. A few words about the outlook for 2019.

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Thank you, Philippe. I propose to wrap up by saying a few words about our prospects. Well, the group's activities are really marked by four major trends. We are concerned by, there are many others, I'm afraid. The first of these major trends is the population growth. The second is urbanization and climate change too. Digital transformation and changing behavior. That's the world, the underlying trends of the world in which we operate.

Philippe Marien
Deputy CEO, Bouygues

This is our playing field, if you like. For our businesses, these underlying trends lead to strong worldwide demand for increasingly complex projects, more integrated offers, with more and more requirements in terms of maintenance, particularly in construction. This has also led to a significant appetite for premium and exclusive video content, which can be converted to value through data analysis. Fixed and mobile usages are soaring in B2C and B2B. We will try to take up these challenges and ensure that we take advantage of upside potential in the long term. In this broader context, we are expanding into more strategic, more value-creating activities close to our core businesses through organic growth, of course, or from time to time, as Olivier has said, in the form of acquisitions, as Olivier told you earlier this morning.

In construction, we plan to expand in higher value-added businesses such as urban development, eco neighborhoods, smart cities, energy and services, industrial activities such as aggregates and bitumen, or smart roads. You know that Colas has done a lot of work in the field of smart roads. In telecoms, we plan to continue to expand in fiber to the home and B2B, and of course, focus on digital and content production distribution in media, thanks to partnerships like Mirova. As I said, we'll reinforce our presence in digital and of course, continue to produce and distribute content. At the same time, we are disposing of less strategic assets, as illustrated by the disposal of Smac from Colas or the disposal of TF1's Teleshopping. Now, to shore up this strategy, we are anchored around two pillars. The first of this is the knowhow, the expertise of our 129,000 employees.

As you know, because of the type of business we're in, our human resources are our main resource. Their knowhow and their commitment, their involvement are, I think, a prerequisite if we are to succeed. I'm very happy to be able to tell you that for the second year running, Bouygues has been voted the top employer for all its businesses, the only group in France to have received this certification for all its subsidiaries. The second pillar shoring up our growth is our portfolio of innovative solutions, socially and environmentally responsible solutions. Bouygues is ranked in the main sustainable development indices, as you can see on the right-hand side of the slide. I think that's very important in this day and age. Now, in 2019, the group was included on the Carbon Disclosure Project list, which distinguishes the most active companies in fighting against climate change.

This year, over 6,000 companies and groups worldwide answered this questionnaire from the CDP. Only 126 out of 6,000 were classified in Group A, and we were one of those. This, I think, really crowns our low carbon strategy, energy and climate strategy as well. Given all this, in 2019, the group should improve its profitability, and Bouygues Telecom should generate EUR 300 million in free cash flow. You will remember that's a guidance that we've already mentioned before. Within two years, the group should improve its free cash flow generation after working capital requirement to reach EUR 1 billion, thanks to the contribution of all three sectors of activity. May I remind you that one of our main objectives is to create value and generate free cash flow over the long term and consistently. We feel it's relevant to set ourselves a goal for the group.

That brings me to the end of this presentation. Along with the heads of the various business segments, I'll be very happy to try and answer your questions. Thank you. Monsieur. Merci, sir.

[Foreign language] Merci beaucoup. Josep.

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Thank you.

Josep Pujal
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Josep Pujal from Kepler Cheuvreux. Two questions. Number one, on your guidance, EUR 1 billion in free cash flow in two years' time. What change in working capital requirement do you see for that to happen, and what about CapEx in Telecom? Another question about Bouygues Energies & Services, BYES. Has this business been identified as a promising business where further investment is planned, or was Alpiq an opportunistic operation, a one-off thing? In any case, can you give us an idea, an order of magnitude for the company in three or five years' time? Another question still about BYES. What's the profit margin today, and what's the sort of number you'd have in mind in the medium term?

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Regarding BYES, we would not have acquired Alpiq, had we not believed in the future of this business. What it is is that Bouygues Energies & Services, to my mind, has huge growth potential and can offer huge growth opportunities for profit margins in the construction business. There is room for improvement in terms of organization, in choosing market areas, both in terms of business and profitability. In terms of the expected margin, normative margin, as you say, I cannot give you numbers. If you benchmark against other similar companies in France and Europe, there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do better as well. Regarding working capital requirements and the EUR 1 billion free cash flow figure, Philippe Marien will give you details. It says EUR 1 billion in free cash flow after WCR is based on this.

Philippe Marien
Deputy CEO, Bouygues

In 2019, we're looking at capital expenditures of the tune of EUR 1.8 billion in 2019.

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

More than what we did in 2018, where it stood at EUR 1.6 billion. At Bouygues Telecom, we're looking at slightly less by way of capital expenditure. As we said last year, we will be sticking to that. We're looking at slightly under EUR 1 billion in CapEx for Bouygues Telecom. There will be higher CapEx both in the construction business. Colas had lower CapEx this year, well, net CapEx, because it disposed of significant equipment, but that won't happen again. UN, we might increase CapEx at UN, but you will see that higher CapEx in UN means higher EBITDA as well. EUR 1.8 billion in capital expenditure. The changing WCR, well, we want to make that as good as possible to make that EUR 1 billion mark. Because that's after WCR. Nicolas Abis from HSBC. I have two questions on Bouygues Telecom.

On the size effect in fixed lines, we're looking at 4 million subscribers. In view of the variable costs in co-investment, why do you believe that it is preferable to have higher volumes rather than reduce discounts to ensure growth? In terms of production, there's a new management team. Will this entail new costs related to the central functions? Does this mean you will be more selective in terms of construction projects? Regarding the construction projects, there's no major change in line. We are constantly trying to adjust and make the right move. It's true for all three business areas. It's been going on for the past 67 years. We're constantly adjusting. Let me remind you that the group has been around for 67 years. For the past 67 years, we've been constantly adjusting our structures and organizations to arrive at the best possible results.

By and large, we've done fairly well. Regarding Bouygues Telecom, Olivier Roussat will Can we give the microphone? I think it's best since it's just the three of them sharing the microphone, they might leave it amongst themselves. Olivier Roussat. As Martin was speaking, I forgot the question, so I had to ask my colleagues what the question was. You're talking about the race to trying to get as much volumes as possible. We did much less by way of promotion in Q4 than in previous years. We were not trying to reach out to more volumes by offering discounts. We want to take our fair share. In terms of FTTH, they are a high fixed cost, but that is our territory, and the higher the number of customers, the lower the unit prices. That means more profitability.

Where we do not have is adequate customer bases, well, that's where we decide to go for variable cost because that is the only way for us to bring our costs down, where we do not have a sizable customer base. No further questions? Surely. A question at the back of the room.

Nicolas Didelez
Analyst, Amiral Gestion

Monsieur.

Speaker 7

I'm from Garnier. I have a couple of questions. What do you have to say about Alstom after the failed merger with Siemens? You said that if the merger went ahead, Bouygues had no reason to remain a stakeholder in Alstom. What's the view position now? On telecom now, there's lots of talk about Bouygues Telecom's growth in less dense areas. Where do you stand in terms of rolling out your equipment in these less dense areas? In view of the growing role of B2B in Bouygues Telecom, do you have any ambitions in terms of growth, profitability compared to what you have with B2C?

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Regarding Alstom, just like the rest of you, and many of you shared their concern, indeed their dismay, when they saw the European Commission's position. I must say, I could not understand that position. I believe it is extremely strange.

This is a sort of a lose-lose deal, regardless of what happens in the next 20 years for both Alstom and Siemens. Of course, the European Commission will have to take responsibility. That's a bit odd. The idea is to make it more advantageous for European consumers. Putting the European consumer in the hands of a Chinese giant may not be in the consumer's best interest, but I'm just a humble industrialist, and I do not claim to have the same wisdom as a commissioner in Brussels. Having said that, I would like to pay tribute to Henri Poupart-Lafarge, who is Alstom's CEO. He's done a remarkable job. You have to become aware of these surreal procedures. For 18 months running, there you have a company in limbo.

Its relations with customers is highly complicated because for a year and a half, it's pretty difficult to convince your customers to go ahead and buy a product if you don't know what the future holds for that company down the road. Now for all the employees of the company, that was a period of very unpleasant uncertainty. I would like to say that at Alstom, Henri Poupart-Lafarge and his aides were able to handle this quite remarkably. As you know, Alstom's performance are quite remarkable. It's true for sales, for revenue, but it's also true in terms of financial performance. If you look at Alstom's order book, and backlog, we're looking at five years worth of orders. There's no concern. There's no urgency. We are confident shareholders standing by Alstom's management. We have two representatives of Bouygues sitting on the board, as Philippe Marien said earlier.

Olivier Roussat
Deputy CEO, Bouygues

There's not much to add. Regarding Bouygues Telecom, Olivier Roussat will tell you more. Yes. Regarding the work that we have with Le Creusot that enables us to be in the rural areas, having rolled out that network, we see improved presence and growth because we're expanding 20% as far as in these areas than in other areas. The reason for that is that we've opened new shops, thanks to Fnac, because Fnac, the retail stores are opening Bouygues Telecom stores in these areas. We have also agreements to increase the points of sales. We are more present. Regarding B2B, we showed you in the slide that we're in a very small position. We only have 3% of the market for the fixed line business, which means we have huge potential because we only have two competitors, but we will not give you guidance.

In the absolute, yes, we can do better. Thank you.

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

Thank you. Have we another question? Gentleman here. Rémi Appert from Oddo. I'd come back to the B2B. Why do you feel you're accelerating now, particularly in B2B? And with a market share of just 3%, could you give us some idea of what your ambitions are, what you're aiming at in terms of market share, in a market that's not very fluid? Do you plan to acquire market share through acquisitions, or is there enough room for organic growth? Well, in 2018, our growth wasn't in the form of acquisitions. We grew thanks to major input in mobiles, fixed, B2B, and I think Richard would say a few words about that. Bouygues Telecom's organic growth in B2B is significantly higher than Bouygues Telecom on average. The B2B is posting the highest growth for simple reasons that Olivier and Martin both explained.

Richard
Company Representative, Bouygues

In so far as our market share is very low, we've a lot of upside potential. Now I say our market share is low. In mobile, we can have 20%. In B2B, we've 3%. In fixed lines B2B, there's no reason why in fixed lines that we shouldn't be close to the market share we have in mobile. That's the first point. So a lot of positive outlook there. Remember, the value in B2B is much higher than in mobile. In fixed, it's much higher than mobile. Secondly, why are we accelerating now? Because a certain number of companies may be small, but are mature in their sectors and have come to realize that it is important to have fixed, and it's important to have infrastructure to sell end-to-end solutions. We're in a very strong position. They can't go to Orange. The choice is between SFR and Bouygues.

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

I think recent statistics would have it that they prefer to join Bouygues Telecom because our prospects and rationale is one of growth and one of continuing with these companies. In B2B growth, the quality of the network is essential. As you will have seen, the quality of our network is particularly good, has us very well positioned. And this is an essential criterion in our clients' eyes. Next question. Nicolas Didelez. I have three questions. First one concerns the flat OpEx outlay with CityFast. Could you give us some idea of what that total operating expenditure would be and what is the full impact on EBITDA? Is it an exclusive agreement, by the way? My second concerns the operating leverage in telecom. We're not far from 100%. Could you give us some idea of what the main contributors to margin improvement will be?

Nicolas Didelez
Analyst, Amiral Gestion

My third question concerns the operating margin in construction. After the blip in Q3, we finished the year at 2.9%. What is, if not the deadline, let's say, when do you expect to reach that margin guidance? Well, that's something we never disclose, so we're not going to change now. As for the rest, well, Olivier will answer you. In the case of CityFast, we don't give the amount of the agreement. It's not an exclusive agreement, by the way. CityFast is an operator that was set up by Mirova and Axione, from whom we buy services, but they can also sell to other operators. However, we do not give any figures on this agreement. Okay. Well, if there are no more questions, maybe I could answer a question that you didn't ask me before wrapping up. What about consolidation in the market? Anybody interested in that? Any takers?

Martin Bouygues
Chairman and CEO, Bouygues

For analysts like you, that could be of interest. Now, I'd just like to say a word about that. It's something that may be of interest to some of you. We're not in contact with anybody. Insofar as if anything is to happen, it would at least lead to somebody contacting us. We haven't been in touch with anybody. For the record, that's a fact. Secondly, at some point in time this year, we will embark upon a period called a complete lockout. In other words, operators will not be authorized to talk to one another. Insofar as frequencies should be attributed, the details of attribution have yet to be decided. During that lockout period, well, there will be nothing happening. That's what I wanted to say. Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here.

I hope we will meet again very soon with very good news. Why not? Thank you