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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 10, 2018

Operator

Hello, welcome to the LVMH 2018 first quarter revenue conference call. I will now hand you over to Mr. Chris Hollis. Please go ahead.

Chris Hollis
Director of Financial Communications, LVMH

Hi, I am Chris Hollis, Director of Financial Communications at LVMH, With me is Jean-Jacques Guiony, our Chief Financial Officer. Thank you for joining us. We have some brief remarks to make about LVMH's revenue for the first quarter of 2018. As in previous periods, these revenue figures are reported in accordance with the international financial reporting standards. After these remarks, Jean-Jacques and I will be happy to take your questions. Before I begin, I must remind you that certain information to be discussed on today's call is forward-looking and is subject to important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For these, I refer you to the safe harbor statement included in our press release. Turning now to our revenue announcement. Hopefully, you have all had the chance to read our release, which was issued yesterday evening in both French and English.

As always, it is available on the LVMH website, www.lvmh.com, as are the slides that we are using to guide today's discussion. Kicking off the highlights of our first quarter performance, we are pleased to have reported a strong start to the year with double-digit growth, even in the context of strong negative currency impact, given the strength of the euro compared to notably the dollar and the yen in the same period last year. All of our business groups and regions contributed to the 13% organic revenue growth we delivered in the first quarter. Excluding the impact of the termination of DFS's Hong Kong International Airport concessions at the end of last year, the organic growth would have been 15%, with all business groups showing double-digit growth. In terms of the business groups, specifically, we had good performance within wines and spirits and across our fashion brands.

I want to call out the strong creative momentum we are seeing at Louis Vuitton, which had an excellent quarter, and the continued strength of Christian Dior Couture, which as you know, we integrated into LVMH in July 2017. At Berluti and Christian Dior, we also continued to see robust growth across all product categories, and we had impressive increases at Bulgari. Within our selective retailing business, Sephora's growth continued in key regions, and DFS saw strong increases in Hong Kong and Macau. For the first quarter of 2018, this is slide three, total revenue rose 10% on a reported basis to €10.85 billion from €9.88 billion in the prior year. This includes, as I mentioned, a 13% increase in organic revenue after a 7% structure increase, principally from the inclusion of Christian Dior Couture and a 10% negative currency effect.

In terms of revenue by region in EUR, we continue to have a well-balanced revenue mix across geographies. As you can see on the map, Asia, including Japan, represented 33% of revenue at the end of the first quarter. This was followed by U.S., including Hawaii, at 22%. France was at 9%, the rest of Europe accounting for 18%. Japan represented 7% of revenue, the remaining 11% was composed of revenue from other markets. Compared to last year, Asia gained 2 points from the U.S., reflecting in part the weakness of the USD versus last year's period. Looking at change relative to the prior year period, organic revenue rose double-digit in all regions but Europe. Asia was the biggest driver of growth, with 21% in Asia, excluding Japan, and 18% in Japan, helped by the favorable exchange rates in this region compared to last year.

The U.S. grew a solid 10%, while Europe grew an honorable 6%. Turning now to our business groups. Let's start with Wines and Spirits. The 10% organic revenue growth for the quarter was entirely offset by the negative currency effect. Breaking this down, champagne and wines organic revenue growth was 4%, but there was a negative 8% currency impact for the quarter, resulting in reported revenue of EUR 422 million in the fourth quarter of this year, compared to EUR 439 in the prior year period. For cognac and spirits, organic revenue growth was 13%, this was offset by an 11% negative currency impact, resulting in reported revenue of EUR 773 million compared to EUR 757 million in the year-ago period. Volumes in the champagne business, this is slide seven, were up 1% with solid organic revenue growth in all regions.

A particularly good performance of our prestige Cuvées, which gained market share, added a positive mix impact. Estates and wines performance was primarily driven by positive price effect. In cognac and spirits, Hennessy volumes were up 5% for the first quarter. In the U.S., we saw continued progress similar to the second half of last year in the context of supply constraints. In Asia, we saw strong momentum in China after a successful Chinese New Year campaign, while destocking of Glenmorangie by Asian distributors continued. Given the overall strong growth of Hennessy in Asia, there was a strong positive mix impact in the quarter. Moving on to Fashion and Other Goods. This business group, or slide eight, grew a strong 16% for the quarter on an organic basis. Reported revenue was up 25% to EUR 4.27 billion in revenue versus EUR 3.4 billion in the year-ago period.

This resulted from a 19% structural impact, which was due to the addition of Christian Dior Couture, as well as RIMOWA, whose Q1 2017 revenue was included in Q2 2017, this is last year. This strong organic growth was partly offset by a negative 10% negative currency impact. Looking more closely at Fashion and Other Goods, this group overall saw strong growth in Asia and the U.S., as well as continued positive momentum in Europe. Louis Vuitton continued its creative momentum with the success of both its iconic lines and new products and delivered an excellent performance. The first quarter saw a successful fashion show at the Louvre, a new fragrance, Le Jour Se Lève, importantly welcomed a new and highly talented men's artistic director, Virgil Abloh. His first show for the brand will take place in June during Men's Fashion Week in Paris.

You'll also be hearing more about the new connected luggage, Horizon, including a new connected service that allows you to trace your luggage from your smartphone in the main worldwide airports. Among the other fashion Maisons, I mentioned earlier Christian Dior Couture's solid performance. In addition, the brand appointed Kim Jones, previously in Virgil's role at Louis Vuitton, as the artistic director of Dior Homme. He will also present his first collection in June during Paris Fashion Week. Some exciting times coming in men's fashion from the group starting this summer. Fendi showed robust progress in ready-to-wear and shoes, and Loro Piana had an excellent start to the year, driven by its iconic and accessories lines. Celine saw good momentum this quarter and named Hedi Slimane artistic, creative, and image director of the brand. This news was very well received in the fashion media.

Givenchy's first haute couture collection by Clare Waight Keller was well-received. Marc Jacobs continued the repositioning of its collection, and work continued at RIMOWA, where a new visual identity in conjunction with its milestone 120th anniversary was rolled out during the quarter. For our Perfumes and Cosmetics business group, this is slide 10, revenue reached at EUR 1.5 billion compared to EUR 1.395 billion in the first quarter of 2017. This reflected an impressive 17% increase in organic revenue, offset by a 9% currency impact, resulting in an 8% reported revenue growth for the quarter. The performance of this business group was driven by all segments in all regions, particularly Asia. To give you some more color on the brands, Christian Dior continued to benefit from the popularity of its iconic J'adore and Miss Dior fragrances, while Sauvage continued its success.

Makeup, notably Lip Glow, Addict Lacquer Plump, and Rouge Dior, and skincare lines such as Prestige and Capture also performed strongly within this business. Guerlain launched Mon Guerlain Eau de Parfum Florale and had good performance in the skincare category, driven by Abeille Royale. Parfums Givenchy saw strong performance in its makeup lines, notably face powder, Prisme Libre, and introduced a new fragrance called Live Blossom Crush. During the quarter, Benefit launched BADgal BANG!, its volumizing mascara. Kenzo continued the international rollout of KENZO WORLD, and Fresh successfully launched its Black Tea Kombucha Facial Treatment Essence. Fenty Beauty by Rihanna continued its exceptional growth during the first quarter, helped by its social media following, and rolled out the Plush Matte lipstick, Mattemoiselle. Looking at our watches and jewelry business. This is slide 12.

Revenue in this group was EUR 959 million compared to EUR 879 million in the first quarter last year, growing a very strong 20% on an organic basis. When taking into account the 11% negative currency impact, reported revenue increased 9%. The watch and jewelry business group performed especially well in Asia and the U.S. In terms of the brands, Bvlgari delivered an excellent performance in the first quarter, driven by the success of its emblematic lines, Serpenti, B.zero1, Divas, and Octo. The brand also opened its first Boston boutique in January. Chaumet launched a new high-end jewelry collection, Les Mondes de Chaumet, starting with its first chapter, Promenades Impériales. The highlight for watches was the presentation of new models at Baselworld, including A. Lange & Söhne's Octo Finissimo Tourbillon Automatic, that set several records for its thinness.

Hublot's Big Bang Sapphire Tourbillon, TAG Heuer's new Monaco and Carreras, and Zenith Defy Zero G. These were all well received at the show. Turning to selective retailing, slide 14. Reported revenue was down 2% for the quarter to EUR 3.1 billion compared to EUR 3.15 billion in the year ago period. This is a result of 9% organic revenue growth, offset by an 11% negative currency effect. However, if we were to exclude the impact of the Hong Kong International Airport concessions, which were terminated last year, the organic growth would have been 16%. Sephora delivered strong comparable store revenue growth in Asia and continued its excellent momentum online across all regions, gaining market share. The rollout of its digitally enriched store concepts, which included the Saint-Lazare store in Paris in the first quarter, has been well received by customers.

DFS saw strong sales growth in its Hong Kong T Galleria store, which partially offset the expiration of its Hong Kong International Airport concession. DFS also saw good performance in its recently opened T Galleria locations in Venice and Cambodia. At the same time, the brand opened two new beauty stores in Macau this first quarter. Overall, this is the final slide, LVMH delivered a very good performance in the first quarter, starting off the year strong despite currency headwinds, and all of our business groups were contributors to organic growth. Going forward, we will continue to focus on innovation and creating high-quality products as we selectively expand our store network and maintain a focus on cost management.

While we are taking a cautious approach to the balance of the year due to geopolitical and economic uncertainties, we will continue to pursue our objective for reinforcing our leadership position in the world's luxury goods market. Thank you. With that, we'll now take any questions you might have. Hugh, could you open the line, please?

Operator

Yes, of course. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question and you haven't already, please press zero and then one on your phone keypad now in order to enter the queue. After I announce you, simply ask that question. Our first question is over to the line of Oliver Chen at Cowen and Company. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Jonah in for Oliver. Thank you for taking our question today. We're just hoping you could comment on the state of luxury market and customer trends in the United States. Thank you.

Chris Hollis
Director of Financial Communications, LVMH

Okay. Thank you for your question. The luxury market in the United States is obviously doing well, as you can judge from our overall numbers, with double-digit growth, which has been going on for quite some quarters now and is still there for the first quarter of 2018. If you compare the trends with the end of last year, there are a few changes. We see a much better business in watches and jewelry, and in fashion and leather it's less good than it was in wine and spirit, and it's in line in selective distribution. There are some changes, but overall, the business is very well-oriented in the United States for the time being.

Operator

Okay. The next question is over the line of John Guy at Berenberg. Please go ahead, John. Your line's now open.

John Guy
Analyst, Berenberg

Thanks very much. Thanks, Chris. Thanks, Jean-Jacques. I've got three questions, please. The first on Louis Vuitton. Could you maybe just talk about pricing during the quarter? My sense is that the volume growth has been very strong, a healthy double digits. In some selected markets, we did see price increases. Could you just talk about the extent of the pricing increase for Louis Vuitton in the first quarter, please? My second question is around wines and spirits, and in particular, cognac. Is it fair to assume we've had about an 800-basis-point value increase for cognac and spirits? Splitting out that value again, just trying to think about what is price mix and what is the underlying raw price increase there. I know you've always been cautious around just raising prices to let competition come in to Hennessy.

Finally, just with regards to DFS, you mentioned in the release that you've been, I guess, changing your offer to suit the traveling consumer better. I was just wondering what's changed within the overall DFS offer. For Sephora, how many Sephora self-servicing kiosks do you now operate on a global basis? Thanks very much.

Chris Hollis
Director of Financial Communications, LVMH

Thank you, John. I will disappoint you on the last question that I don't know the answer. I will try to know the answers for the rest, but for this one, I don't. I will try to provide it at a later stage. On the pricing for Louis Vuitton

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

It's not on selected markets. We increased prices for leather goods in a limited way around 1.7%-1.8% in February across the board. It was a widespread price increase, which didn't draw a lot of attention. It was just on leather goods. On wine and spirits, your assumption is correct. The price mix impact is about 8%. You have altogether a 5% volume increase, 4% price increase, and about 4% mix impact. The mix impact stems from the very good performance of the XO business, which grew double digits. We mentioned many times that we have a lot of constraints on VS and VSOP, and for the time being, less so on XO. We benefited from that, and obviously, from the strong demand coming from the eastern part of the world. As far as prices are concerned, the 4% price increase should be well understood.

It's not a straight price increase of 4%. Price increases were lower than that, on average in between 2%-3%, depending on the market. There is also an impact coming from the fact that we allocate less fund to the trade, which is a way to call discounts allocated to distributors on the basis of their volume performance. Given the fact that we are pretty constrained on our volumes, we don't see the need of allocating such funds to the trade, and technically, such funds to the trade are being accounted for as a negative to sales. When they disappear, it's technically as if we were increasing prices, and we count this within the price impact. As far as DFS is concerned, changing offer is probably a more two global words to describe what's going on.

We do that at all times. We make sure that depending on the type of clients we have in a given location, we adapt the offer with more destination products or more cosmetic products, depending on what the taste of such clients are. This is what we do. We have developed tools internally, which are allowing our merchandising team to be much more precise on what they propose to the client and how they can adapt the offer depending on the location. That's what we had in mind, but nothing particularly spectacular that would change the business model of DFS.

John Guy
Analyst, Berenberg

That's great. Thanks, Jean-Jacques. Maybe just one follow-up just on wine and spirits, in particular, cognac. I'm looking at January and February exports that are down mid-single digits on a value basis. There's a good sort of 70+% correlation on your wines and spirits business on a quarterly lag basis. Is it right to take a slightly more cautious approach to wine and spirits organic growth assumptions for the remainder of the year, or do you feel comfortable with the exit rates that you've seen in the first quarter?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, for cognac, 5% is a bit on the high side. We said last year that for the next couple of years at least, we expect to grow, let's say, in between 3% and 4%, depending on market opportunities. For 5%, which we had coming from a strong pressure from clients to buy more, is probably a little bit on the high side. As far as champagne is concerned, the growth in volumes was only 1%. We hope we will do a bit better in the rest of the year.

Operator

That's great. Many thanks. We are now over to the line of Edouard Aubin of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Edouard Aubin
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Good afternoon. Edouard Aubin from Morgan Stanley. I have three questions, all on Vuitton, actually. First of all, your fashion and leather goods division grew 16% organically in Q1. Should we assume that Vuitton's growth was very close to that rate or even a touch higher? Would that be too optimistic? That's number one. Number two, to my knowledge, LV has not been increasing its square footage for about 18 months now. You managed to have like-for-like growth very significantly in Q1, despite the fact that Vuitton is already posting sales density very significantly above industry average. I guess my question is, at what point does the store experience suffers from excessive traffic in the store? Going forward, does it mean that you'll have to increase your selling space or online will be able to absorb a significant share of growth?

Lastly, Vuitton's annual sales growth run rate is around EUR 1.5 billion, roughly, which I guess is extremely significant, and what measures are you taking to protect the exclusiveness of the brand? For example, how do you manage the best sellers around the world on that basis?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Okay, thank you, Edouard. I would answer the same thing to the first question. Vuitton is never very far from the division's average, and there is no exception there. Vuitton is very close to the 16%, and I will not comment whether it's above or below, but it's very close. As far as sales density is concerned, well, that's, I would say, a good problem to have, I would say, but you alluded to the right answer when asking the question. Online could be part of the answer, and potentially increasing the number of stores or more probably increasing the size of existing stores, sorry, as we did in the past.

Frankly, for the time being, despite what you said about improving sales density, which is absolutely right, we don't feel the need for drastic action in terms of the way we welcome our clients and the way we serve them. The existing network works extremely well, and we have no particular plans to change the whole thing. Sorry, I missed your last. The EUR 1.5 billion annual sales growth.

Edouard Aubin
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes. How you protect the exclusivity of the brand.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

The exclusiveness of the brand. Well, people tend to assimilate Vuitton with Monogram. Monogram is a significant share of the business, but nevertheless, it's not Vuitton. It's not only Vuitton. They are almost three times more in number of products and sales that we do on other products. This is how we think we could keep the exclusivity of the brand. The brand has to be different things to different people and has been different things to different people for many, many years. We know that the brand is growing. It's growing fast, and we are pretty happy with that. It's not only Monogram. It's not one single product that is running the show. A lot of different things, different initiatives of different nature, be it ready-to-wear, be it the men business, be it handbags, be it collaboration.

I mean, a lot of things are being implemented within the brand to make sure that we keep it alive and kicking and that long term, it doesn't become boring. We are not concerned with the risk of becoming overexposed. The risk is always to lack momentum and not to be at the forefront of competition in terms of marketing. We think what we do now is exactly what should be done, and that should then enable to sustain the momentum of the brand for the quarters to come.

Edouard Aubin
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Okay. We are next over the line of Louise Singlehurst at Goldman Sachs. Please do go ahead. Your line is open.

Louise Singlehurst
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks, Jean-Jacques, Chris. Just two questions from me, please. In terms of just going back to Edouard's point on Louis Vuitton, can you just tell us about the manufacturing capabilities and the supply chain in terms of the execution of getting that huge volume of product out to the market during the period? Are we still looking at around 30% of product each year, which is new to the brand? Then a follow-up just on wines and spirits, and apologies if I missed it, but could you tell us the number of days of inventory across the U.S. distributors for cognac? I know it's incredibly low where it should be. If you could give us an idea, that'd be great. Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

On the manufacturing capabilities, it's something we work on pretty hard. You've probably heard that we are going to open new ateliers in France in the next quarter. That's part of the answer. Our volumes obviously have grown very significantly over the past few months and years, and we are facing increasing demand. Again, it's a good problem to have, but in order to solve that, we need to open new capabilities. Each capability, each factory or each atelier has its own flexibility, so they can recruit more people. They have some ability to produce more hours. We are working on that as well. We are not worried, to be frank. It's not something we can adjust overnight, but with a little bit of time planning, we can certainly increase the production to levels that will enable us to meet further increase in the demand.

Be assured that this is something we are working quite hard on because it's obviously a big opportunity that we don't want to miss. As far as wine and spirit is concerned, the number of days of inventories in the U.S. is quite low. It's around 15 days. It's more as the same as what it was at the end of last year. It's obviously a fairly constrained level, and at this type of level, we have no opportunity to serve the final client in volumes which are higher than the ones we would send to our own distributors and our own clients. Obviously, one of the levers we've been pulling on over the last years is not available now. We know that, and we have to thank our distributors for helping us and operating at such low level of stocks.

Louise Singlehurst
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Super. Thank you. Very clear.

Operator

The next question from the line of Antoine Belge at HSBC. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Antoine Belge
Analyst, HSBC

Hi, it's Antoine at HSBC. Three questions. [inaudible] , on fashion and leather. 16% in Q1 and for 10% in Q4, I think you mentioned in the call, sorry, the analyst that in December, Vuitton had kept aside some merchandise in order to make sure that there would be enough for Chinese New Year. Has there been a sort of effect of additional supply, and would you expect that to disappear in the second quarter? Second question on Vuitton, on fashion and leather. The FX impact was minus 10%, I think more negative than consensus was going for. You mentioned the price increase with such a volume growth, probably strong operating leverage. I know it's not time to talk about margins, but how are these conflicting effects going to work in H1 and then maybe over the full year?

Thirdly, with regards to the nationalities, 16% for fashion and leather, all nationalities must have contributed, but it seems that the slowdown in Europe due to currency has been more than compensated by maybe a fantastic or stellar rebound in Hong Kong. It seems that smaller Asian countries may be small if you take country by country, but quite significant if you group all of them have been showing strong growth. Maybe could you comment on that? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Okay. Thank you, Antoine, for your three questions. On fashion leather, the capacity question, you're a little bit mixing offer and demand. As far as offer is concerned, we set aside a few products to serve Chinese New Year, as we said last year. The month of December was definitely constrained, and we freed this additional capacity in January and February to serve Chinese New Year. Now we are back to normal and to our plans in terms of supply. As far as demand is concerned, as you've seen from the numbers, and I will try to answer to your next questions on this, but as you've seen, demand seems to be well-oriented. What I can tell you is that before the end of the year, we don't expect to be constrained in a meaningful way. In terms of volumes, we have the ability to produce more.

We'll have new atelier, as I answered to Louise before. We'll have new atelier becoming live at some point. We think we should be able to serve a growing demand in the course of this year in a meaningful way. Your question on margins with exchange ratio on the one side and price increase on the other side is obviously a bit premature to answer. I think I'll give you a better answer when we get our H1 numbers. I don't even have the Q1 numbers as we speak, so it's quite hard for me to comment on that. As far as your last question or sub-question on fashion and leather in Europe, in Asia, and in the various geographies, we've seen some significant changes over the last months. We have a little bit of a slowdown in Europe in terms of growth.

It's still very positive, but it's a little bit of a slowdown in terms of growth in Europe, obviously compensated by Asia, and chiefly in Asia by Macau and Hong Kong. When you look at the currency movements, this is obviously very well correlated. The level of the currencies in Hong Kong and Macau is connected with the USD, but softened somewhat against the CNY. It shifted a little bit of business into Hong Kong and Macau and to Japan to a lesser extent, probably at the expense of Europe. All this is quite positive. Vuitton is double-digit up in Europe in Q1. Nevertheless, we see the flows of Chinese tourists particularly moving pretty quickly where they feel they get the best deal from a currency viewpoint. It's nothing new, but it happened as we expected in Q1.

Antoine Belge
Analyst, HSBC

Maybe just a quick follow-up. I think Chris mentioned on RIMOWA, the sort of perimeter impact on fashion and leather, the Q1 versus Q2. Is it fair to assume that the overall perimeter impact in Q2 would be actually lower because it will be only Dior and maybe actually a reversal of the RIMOWA effect?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

We don't know exactly how we will treat that. We'll make sure that this is clear to you when we report our numbers in July. It's fair to assume that what you said is right.

Antoine Belge
Analyst, HSBC

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Anne at Raymond James. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 14

Good afternoon. I have a few question as well. The first one again on Louis Vuitton. Can you maybe be a bit more precise on the growth from each type of customers, European, Chinese, and American? My second question is on the watch and jewelry division. Can you provide a bit more details on the growth between jewelry and watches and maybe the trend by region of this division? Lastly, have you observed during this Q1 different performances between January, March, and February, is March better than February or only February due to Chinese New Year? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

On your last question, we always get differences in between January, Feb, and March because of Chinese New Year shifting usually 2 weeks from one year to another. This year, February was very strong and January was softer. This was due to the fact that Chinese New Year was 2 weeks later than it was the year before. That it's not particularly significant and quite difficult to comment. Your first question was on.

Speaker 14

Growth, European, Chinese, U.S.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

The main client bases.

Speaker 14

Customer.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, I have to say that it is quite consistent. Most of our client base are around the growth of Vuitton together. As you don't know the growth of Vuitton together, it's hard for you to conceive what it is. As I said, it's not very far from division. The important point to have in mind is that it's pretty consistent. Both the Chinese, the American, the Europeans, and the Japanese are pretty well grouped around this average, which doesn't happen so often. As far as watch and jewelry division is concerned, the trend was not as similar to the preceding quarters. Jewelry was doing much better than watches. The division is showing about 20%. It's significantly more for watches, and we had a very good quarter with both Chaumet and.

Speaker 14

Jewelry.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Sorry, both jewelry. Very good quarter. Sorry about that. A very good quarter for Chaumet and Bulgari. Watches did okay. We are pretty close to, if not at double digits. We are very close to double digits, which tends to show an improving trend there. Particularly TAG Heuer had one of the best quarters in the recent past, and Hublot is still moving from strength to strength. We are pretty happy with the situation. As far as regions are concerned, it is worth pointing out, and that explains actually why TAG Heuer is doing better, that the U.S. was much, much better than it used to be for both watches and jewelry. Asia is still proving very strong. Only a little bit of softness in Europe and in Japan, but definitely Asia and the U.S. are doing okay.

Speaker 14

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of David Stammer at CMCR. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

David Stammer
Analyst, CMCR

Hi, everyone. All my questions have been already answered, but maybe a small one on Dior Couture. Are you experiencing an acceleration in growth as well for this brand? In this case, is it fair to assume an organic growth close to 20% in Q1?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

I will not comment on organic growth on Dior. We had a very good quarter at Dior Couture. The business did very well, I would say across the board. Particularly strong in Asia and in the U.S., which is good news. The average organic growth is above the division, as you know, it's not included in the division. It's recorded within the perimeter impact.

David Stammer
Analyst, CMCR

Have you seen an acceleration in growth as well for this brand, like you have seen in the other brand of the fashion leather division?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

It's a bit better than what it was in Q4.

David Stammer
Analyst, CMCR

Okay

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Q3, nothing really significant, we are talking about very high numbers. I don't know whether.

David Stammer
Analyst, CMCR

Yeah

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

such a difference is so significant.

David Stammer
Analyst, CMCR

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

We now go to the line of Fred Spears at UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Fred Spears
Analyst, UBS

Good afternoon, Jean-Jacques and Chris. Thanks for taking my questions. Two left from my side. The first was around the volatility of the trading environment. If you were to look past the timing changes for the major holidays, do you think we're starting to see that come down at all? Second was just around LV pricing. Following what you've done already in Q1, is the door still open for further price increases at Vuitton later this year? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

The question on volatility, I think we have to live with some form of volatility whatever we do. We know that when Chinese New Year shifts two weeks, it creates a lot of differences in the comparison base. It's a little bit true all over the place. Volatility is a fact of life, in my view, in our businesses. As far as LV is concerned, I will not comment, frankly, we don't know. We have implemented an across-the-board price increase, which we haven't done for three or four years. That's already one step forward. I cannot really comment. No decision has neither been studied nor taken as far as further price increase are concerned. Nothing to report on that front.

Fred Spears
Analyst, UBS

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is of the line of Thomas Chauvet at Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Thomas Chauvet
Analyst, Citi

Good afternoon, Jean-Jacques. Three question, please. The first one, a follow-up on cognac. Could you comment on the depletions for (excellent VSOP) post Chinese New Year and in the U.S., you still manage to have low single-digit volume growth for VS, or at least maybe for the U.S. business in the period against a very tough comp. Can you please update on perhaps the availability of younger Eau de Vie for the rest of the year and for VS, and whether you continue to explore the opportunity to push VSOP in that market? Secondly, a question on square footage in fashion leather. If I understand well your previous comments, for Vuitton, the store network remains stable and will remain stable, you're planning to continue to do store enlargement and refurb. Other than Vuitton, where are the main CapEx plan?

I'm thinking more in terms of store count expansion. Can you perhaps comment on Dior, Fendi, and Céline? Is that where you see still some opportunity? My third question, I know you wouldn't comment on the beginning of April for fashion leather, it's way too early. More generally, how do you think about the second quarter and the rest of the year, where obviously the fashion leather division is now facing a much tougher comp on a three-year cumulative basis? I think the comp gets 10 points tougher. I think the first quarter comp was, from that standpoint on a three-year basis, a little bit milder. Are you still comfortable when you comment about trends are well-oriented that the growth continues in subsequent quarters? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, thank you, Thomas. Not easy. That's not an easy question that we usually don't answer, I will make no exception. As you know, we are not in a business where the visibility is particularly good. We try to understand the market, we try to understand the customers, predicting the behavior and predicting external shocks as they may happen from time to time is always a very difficult task. I will not go into that. The only thing I can say is that we had a good start to the year, we expect these good trends to continue. On your more specific questions on cognac and on Vuitton. On cognac, the depletions in China were very strong in the first two months because I don't have the March numbers, I have the Chinese New Year numbers, they were very good.

We were up for our main categories about a third. It's quite significant. A very good situation there. As far as the U.S. and VS versus VSOP is concerned, VS is under strict production constraints. We cannot grow this business within the next couple of years, as I said, more than 3% maximum, 2.5% to 3%. Volumes in Q1 were not dissimilar to that. We are developing VSOP in the U.S. VSOP is growing very fast in the U.S., in terms of number of bottles, it's really very small compared to VS. From a pure volume viewpoint, I'm not talking about a mix viewpoint, from a pure volume viewpoint, it is very unlikely that VSOP could compensate for VS. We also have some constraints in terms of production on VSOP, which is way less flexible than VS.

Full term, it's maybe less of a case, at some point, the constraints on VS will also bite into the VSOP capacity to grow. Finally, your question on fashion and number of stores. You mentioned Dior, Fendi, and Céline. Each of these brands more or less have 200 stores. Definitely more or less. Definitely there is some room for increase, for Dior, for Céline, it's a bit early to say we are reassessing plans with the changes that took place earlier on this year. For Dior, we think that we can grow the business without increasing a very large number of stores. Obviously, Dior are opening stores, not in a frantic way, same thing for Fendi. Nothing really meaningful, although we keep increasing regularly the number of stores in a controlled way, I would say.

Thomas Chauvet
Analyst, Citi

Thank you. For Vuitton, very low single-digit square footage growth over the coming years on to fulfill the needs of a better store experience, maybe some of the stores are tired and some geographies need a bit of a refit.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, they will do. We have a large network, we cannot revamp all of them at the same time. We do that over a cycle of five to seven years. It's a constant movement. Vuitton, despite they are not increasing the number of stores, they are very busy in revamping and improving the, as you said, the customers' experience in the stores by either enlarging them or making them better and reviewing the way they've been operating them. It's a really constant movement there.

Thomas Chauvet
Analyst, Citi

Thank you, Jean-Jacques.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Roger Fujimori of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Roger Fujimori
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Hi, Jean-Jacques. Hi, Chris. Two questions. Berenberg is a follow-up on fashion and leather. Excluding LV and Dior, could you give us a qualitative idea of which brands have seen improving trends in Q1 versus Q4? My second question is on e-commerce. Any comment or qualitative comment on the contribution to growth, especially for fashion leather. My third is on Sephora. I think you've mentioned market share gains around the world and e-commerce growth, have you seen any changes in the competitive environment in the U.S.? Do you still plan to open 100 stores this year? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Thank you, Roger. Well, I will disappoint you on your first two questions, I'm afraid. I will not really comment. Qualitatively, we had most of our brands did reasonably well in Q4, they also did reasonably well in Q3. Basically, I don't want to point the ones doing better than the others. Frankly, this is not my intention and not my job. On e-commerce, on fashion leather, I think we mentioned some numbers last year for the contribution to the group for e-commerce, which was across all divisions. That's the only thing we want to comment for the time being. I don't have any specific and anything new to announce for e-commerce in Q1 of this year. The trends are the same. The landscape is changing quite fast, we are adapting to this, nothing to be reported, I would say, on a quarterly basis there.

As far as competitive landscape for Sephora in the U.S. is concerned. Well, there are differences. The trends, obviously, in demand tend to change with something that we've seen for quite some quarters now, which is a little bit of a slowdown in makeup in the U.S., which used to be the driving force of the business. At the same time, some of the brands we carry, including brands from the LVMH group, are extremely strong at Sephora, the business is still well-oriented. For the global Sephora, we did like-for-like of about 6% in the first quarter of the year. The U.S. was slightly above that, I think it's a good situation there. There are competitors, obviously, be they online or offline, nothing new.

We were not present in this market 20 years ago, we managed to make our way into the prestige market in the U.S. Obviously, the competitive landscape is changing at all times.

Roger Fujimori
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

100 stores still plan for this year?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

No. For Sephora U.S., altogether. For Sephora U.S., it's lower than that. Altogether, I think it's a bit more than 100. It's 120 or 130, something like that.

Roger Fujimori
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is of the line of Omar Abbasi at ABO Capital. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Okay, Atiya, there seems to be a lot of noise on your line. Okay, well, we'll go to the next question, which is over the line of Francesca Di Pasquantonio of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Francesca Di Pasquantonio
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes. Hi, good afternoon. I have a couple of questions, please. The first one is really to understand how much you were expecting this acceleration that we have seen in Q1. It seems the business has responded very well to this acceleration. My guess is you were planning well, but just to have a sense and your thoughts around that. Secondly, can you maybe help us understand what notable initiatives are planned for your key divisions, your key brands, in terms of maybe special projects, new launches, initiatives that we should be aware of and which could help us in looking at the forecasting for the next few quarters? Thank you.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, two tough questions, Francesca. Acceleration in Q1, it's almost impossible to forecast that type of thing. Berenberg of all, the acceleration was not so noteworthy. We had 11% organic growth in Q4. We have 13% in Q1. That's obviously better, but should we really talk about acceleration? I don't know. It's your call, not mine. Anyway, the question for us is not to plan for acceleration. It's to make sure that if it happens, we can react well. Remember what I said about Vuitton setting aside some products at the end of last year to serve the client's needs for Chinese New Year. That's probably the limit of what we can do. Nevertheless, that's what we do. We make sure that whatever happens, we can be ready, be positive or negative. This time around it was positive. Could be negative in the future, nobody knows.

It's more about flexibility than really planning, I would say. As far as initiatives for the future are concerned, there are plenty of initiatives, most of them being confidential. I find it a little bit hard to develop on this. The marketing component of our business increases quarter after quarter, and it's quite important to be differentiating our brands with striking marketing initiatives, and this is what we try to do. If you look at what we did last year, I will not come back on the various initiatives we took at Vuitton or elsewhere, if the past speaks for the future, you can expect the same striking initiatives going forward. This is exactly what we have in mind, we hope this will help us sustain and fuel the growth of the business going forward.

Francesca Di Pasquantonio
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. I understand the confidentiality of a lot of the things you're working on. Just to have a sense, will we have another Rihanna in perfumes and cosmetics? Will we have another Supreme in Vuitton, this kind of very high profile and highly contributing events, whether to the profile of the brand or to the business, the traffic, and so on, so forth?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

I had the chance of meeting Rihanna last month. There is only one. I really cannot expect that we can do the equivalent initiative, but there will be plenty of initiatives, Francesca. We plan to do quite a few things, but it's obviously very difficult for me to comment at this stage.

Francesca Di Pasquantonio
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Understood. Thank you very much.

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Thank you.

Operator

Okay. If anyone has any further questions at this stage, please do press zero and then one on your phone keypad now. There are no further questions in the queue, could I please pass it back to you for any closing comments at this stage?

Jean-Jacques Guiony
CFO, LVMH

Well, thank you. Thank you for listening to the call. I don't have any particular further comments to make. I think we went through all the major points and the main features of Q1. I look forward to discussing with you at the end of July the H1 performance. Thank you for attending the call. Bye-bye.

Operator

This now concludes today's call. Thank you all very much for attending, and you can now disconnect your lines.