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Earnings Call: Q1 2021

Apr 28, 2021

Operator

Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Wendel's 2021 Q1 trading update conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session. At which time, if you wish to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Jérôme Michiels, Wendel CFO and Executive Vice President. Please go ahead, sir.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Ladies and gentlemen, Jérôme Michiels speaking. Welcome to this Q1 trading update. I'm the Executive Vice President and Group CFO of Wendel, and I'm here with the investor relations team to present this first quarter trading update. I will be happy to go through a short presentation of the main items of this quarter for the next 15 minutes or so, to be followed by a Q&A session. Should you like to ask questions, you can submit them directly through the web platform, or you can use the telephone number you've been provided with. As a reminder, this presentation is recorded and will be available for one year on our website. Let's dive into Q1 2021 key highlights on slide two. Our net asset value as of end of March 2021 stands at EUR 167.4 per share, up 5.3% since December 2020.

Compared to the low point of March 2020, our NAV is up by 41.7%. Q1 has been strong for our portfolio companies, with a consolidated organic growth of 6.5% and + 2% in total. This recovery has largely been driven by companies that had been hardest hit by COVID at the end of Q1 2020. We will come to the details later, but let me give you just a few highlights of this quarter. Cromology grew by more than 20% organically, while Bureau Veritas was at + 6.6% organically and Stahl at + 9.6%. The financial structure of Wendel and of our portfolio companies remains strong, even more than before the COVID-19 crisis outbreak. Lastly, we are happy to have announced last week our partnership with the Deconinck family to acquire the shares of Tarkett and to support the growth of this company.

Moving to slide three, which displays the key revenue trends of our consolidated companies for Q1. Please note that IHS results for this quarter will be approved by its board next week, and that IHS Towers will thus report its Q1 2021 consolidated sales in May. I'll be brief on Bureau Veritas since they have published and extensively commented their revenues last week. In a nutshell, 2021 is off a good start, with revenues growing by 6.6% organically and by 1.3% on a reported basis. 58% of Bureau Veritas portfolio actually grew double digit organically, driven by an excellent performance in certification, consumer products, and buildings and infrastructure. Bureau Veritas has resumed its targeted bolt-on acquisition strategy with the addition of Secura, specializing in cybersecurity services and Bradley Construction Management, a U.S.-based tech player specialized in renewable energy to its portfolio in order to accelerate growth potential.

Currency fluctuations have had a negative impact of roughly 5% over the quarter, mainly due to the depreciation of the U.S. dollar as well as some emerging countries' currencies against the euro. At Constantia Flexibles, sales were nearly flat organically, reflecting a mixed performance in consumer and pharma. In the consumer market, the subdued performance of the confectionery market in Europe has not been compensated by positive impacts in pet food and beverages, while pharma sales were affected by lockdown-induced mild flu and the cold season. In emerging countries, India is still experiencing an oversupply situation. Q1 2021 sales were also adversely impacted -3.7% by unfavorable foreign exchange translation. Of note, Constantia Flexibles continued to deliver a strong margin over Q1.

The raw material price environment is, however, much less favorable this year, and some significant prices increases have taken place in nearly all categories that will start to impact Constantia from Q2 onwards. Let's cover Stahl now. Sales are up 4.6% this quarter, with organic growth at 9.6%. Stahl continued its quarter recovery, which started in the second half of 2020. This recovery has accelerated despite some challenges in the supply chain, and Stahl has managed to increase its order book to a strong level, translating into volume growth, partially driven by restocking across several market segments. Growth has been particularly strong in East Asia Pacific, and notably in China.

In addition, Stahl's automotive business, representing about 1/3 of total sales, continued its rebound. The recovery in other end markets is more mixed at this point, with a very strong momentum in the upholstery segment, but a more gradual recovery in footwear and luxury goods markets. Our view is that the restocking effect could ease later in 2021, although timing is unclear, and that raw material price hikes are also likely to affect Stahl later in the year. Regarding Cromology, first quarter sales were up by 22.6% compared with Q1 2020, and that's purely organic, confirming the strong rebound in activity observed since the second half of 2020. Since the end of the first lockdown, the recovery has been quicker and larger than expected, with a significant rebound in paint sales driven by strong demand from end customers.

Cromology is currently focusing its efforts on planning and managing operations in the context of the resumption of the pandemic in Europe, as well as on pursuing the execution of transformation plans and prioritizing sources of value creation. Cromology also monitors closely its supply chain since the strong rebound of activity has resulted in tight material supplies and raw materials price increases. Given its solid financial structure, we are working closely with the company to identify potential bolt-on acquisitions. Lastly, CPI is back to organic growth with a level of revenues that has exceeded pre-COVID levels for the month of March. On a quarterly basis, CPI posted a total growth of +10% year-on-year, of which 5.4% relates to a purchase accounting adjustment to deferred revenues, whilst organic growth contributed for +2.7%.

For the first time since the 2020 lockdowns, quarterly sales nearly reached 2019 levels, with Q1 2021 sales falling just 1% short of the 2019 level. In Q1, CPI observed an increase in training activity for both new and existing certified instructors, CIs, as well as for learners. CPI pursued its shift toward digital solutions at the same time. While there are remaining required in-person components to the curriculum, e-learning delivery has represented 1/3 of total learner material volumes. Moving into this year, CPI's activity should benefit from the positive near-term recovery trend in the market amidst accelerating vaccinations and warming weather in the U.S. These two trends should lessen restrictions around travel and gathering and ultimately drive a more business as usual work environment for customers, notably in hospitals and schools. Now let's move to the net asset value on slide four.

As of March 31st, 2021, the net asset value stands at EUR 167.4 per share, or roughly EUR 7.5 billion. The value of our stake in Bureau Veritas is of EUR 3.8 billion, and the value of our unlisted investments is slightly in excess of EUR 4.1 billion, which is above the level of 2019 year-end pre-COVID. As you can see, our portfolio has been very resilient, and our financial situation is very healthy, with a EUR 546 million net debt position at the end of March, translating into a 6.8% loan-to-value ratio. On slide five, the increase in our net asset value over the past three months, which is of + 5.3%, equally results from the appreciation of Bureau Veritas share price, which increased from EUR 22.4 to EUR 23.7 per share, and from the increase in the peer multiples used for the valuation of our private companies.

We also modestly benefited from some positive foreign exchange translation effects on some of our assets reporting in U.S. dollars. Slide six shows our liquidity and our bond maturities, and as you can see, our balance sheet is very strong and healthy. Our LTV ratio stands at 6.8%, with EUR 1.8 billion of total liquidity, including almost EUR 1.1 billion of cash, supplemented by our EUR 750 million committed credit facility, which is fully undrawn. Our level of firepower is commensurate with our roadmap objectives. Our net debt remains at a low level and has a long-term profile, the first maturity arising in 2023. This strong financial structure, the low cost of our debt, and our solid BBB credit ratings provide us with comfort for the future.

It is also worth mentioning that we have signed an amendment to our undrawn EUR 750 million credit facility maturing in October 2024 in order to integrate environmental, social, and governance criteria. Measurable aspects of the non-financial performance of Wendel and companies in its portfolio will from now on be taken into account in the calculation of the costs of this syndicated credit. KPIs retained are aligned with certain quantitative ESG targets the group has set in its ESG 2023 roadmap. Moving to slide seven. We are very happy about our partnership with the Deconinck family to acquire the shares of Tarkett, which has been announced last Friday. Depending on the success of the upcoming tender offer, Wendel will hold up to roughly 30% of Tarkett Participation alongside the Deconinck family.

This should translate into a total amount of equity invested by Wendel of up to circa EUR 280 million, depending, of course, on the final number of shares brought to the offer. The Deconinck family will maintain a controlling stake in the company. This transaction will follow the tentative calendar you can see at the bottom of this slide, and you will find more information on Tarkett's website. As this operation will go through the customary regulatory milestones, you will understand that I will not elaborate that much on it. The only additional comment I would make is that we are extremely proud to have been selected to join forces with the founding family in this transaction. Tarkett is a prime example of French entrepreneurship, and we are pleased to support the company over the long term alongside members of the Deconinck family.

This transaction illustrates our team's ability to identify investment opportunities which fit our long-term investor profile. We are eager to support Tarkett in its future growth by bringing to the table all value, skill, and expertise both in Europe and North America. To wrap up, I would say that this quarter has shown an encouraging rebound across our portfolio, with sales level getting closer to and sometimes above those of 2019 on an organic basis. This shows that the efforts deployed by our company's management and Wendel teams are starting to bear fruit. Obviously, there are some new challenges ahead, like raw materials availability, and prices, but our companies have demonstrated in the recent past their ability to adapt to fast-changing and sometimes very adverse environments. Our net asset value is up, benefiting from increased stock valuations of comparable companies and of Bureau Veritas.

The discount remains at a high level with regards to the long-term average. We opportunistically took advantage of the situation to buy back some Wendel shares worth more than EUR 12 million through to mid-April and are continuing to do so. Lastly, we have increased our focus on new investments as part of the new strategic roadmap, which was endorsed by Wendel's Supervisory Board. The first transaction has been announced last week, our investment in Tarkett, alongside the founding family. Our teams, our financial structure, our ample liquidity should enable us to invest in interesting new assets and generate value creation. Thank you very much for your time. We now switch to Q&A, and we will start with questions by phone and then take the written questions coming from the web.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, press the star and one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. Your first question today comes from the line of Patrick Jousseaume from Société Générale.

Patrick Jousseaume
Analyst, Société Générale

Hello, can you hear me?

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Yes. Hello, Patrick.

Patrick Jousseaume
Analyst, Société Générale

Hello, Jérôme. Just one quick question on CPI. You have shared with us the, let's say, recovery, the revenue of the company. You have depreciated the value of your investment in the NAV. If I remember well, you have removed something like EUR 250 million-EUR 200 million to the value of this investment. What would be needed to come back to the acquisition price, please?

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, Patrick. It's a bit too early to tell. We are actually using for net asset value at this point in time, the 2020 actual number and the 2021 budget number, so to say. It's a bit too early to tell whether the 2021 forecast needs to be revised upward. Q1 has been very strong, but this was somehow expected. We will wait for Q2, I think, later this year to see whether management changes their view for 2021. I'm not able to give you a quantification of how much it would take to come back to the initial value. I'm sorry I can't answer that one more precisely. As I said, for the months of March, revenues have been very close and slightly above 2019 levels. That's just one month in 2021. There are already two months which are below.

If we get the next nine months ahead of 2019, then I guess we might come back to where we were when we invested. These are a lot of ifs and buts. Bear with us for the next net asset value and the ones after to see how this evolves.

Patrick Jousseaume
Analyst, Société Générale

Okay. Thank you very much for this answer.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, Patrick.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joren Van Aken from Degroof Petercam.

Joren Van Aken
Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Yes. Good afternoon, and thank you for taking my question. Two questions from my side, please. For my first question, could you give us an update on the leverage situation at CPI? Could you also comment a bit on the waiver, which was set to expire in the first quarter, and if this implies any risk for the governance for CPI going forward, considering current sales and EBITDA levels? For my second question, which is on Constantia Flexibles. As in the annual report you mentioned in the outlook that they were working on a new strategy for 2025. Any update on that would be nice and maybe an idea on when to expect an announcement of that. Thank you.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, Joren, for your questions. On the first one, the leverage situation at CPI is improving. The level of activity has helped. As I said, there has been a good rebound, but with margins increasing, meaning that there should be no problem with exiting the covenant holiday, the covenant waiver actually, in the next quarters. We don't expect any problem with that should the trading actually continue in line with the current trends. On Constantia Flexibles, you're right, we've mentioned this new strategy. It is still being finalized, but I think we are close to the final version now. We typically do not provide any forecast for our portfolio companies, neither for current year budget nor for out-years or business plan. I'm confident that Pim Vervaat, the CEO, will give you more color at the investor day. We'll answer questions.

It's always a good opportunity at our investor day to make direct contact with our CEOs and have a better glimpse at their strategy and their vision for our portfolio companies.

Joren Van Aken
Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay, thank you.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of David Cerdan from Kepler Cheuvreux.

David Cerdan
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. A rapid question regarding your last investment in Tarkett. Can you explain the process? What was your relationship with the founder family before the deal? Third question is regarding the situation of Tarkett, which looks like a turnaround story. What is the scenario for the top line and margin recovery for Tarkett you have in mind?

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, David. About the Tarkett opportunity, the relationship before the deal, obviously we knew the company. As you know, this company has been IPO'd, and before that it was under private equity ownership. Not ownership, but partially it had private equity partners already in the past. We knew the company. We looked at it, I think, back then, not in close detail, but we obviously knew and followed this company. We've obviously updated that and worked quite intensively in the past weeks to qualify our interest and to finalize, so to say, this partnership with the Deconinck family, that we are very happy about. With regards to the situation, I think the company has provided a lot of information as part of its Q1 trading update, and you will find some data in the prospectus of the offer. That's not for me to comment on that.

I think details have been provided on what management expects in terms of future growth, and that includes margins, obviously.

David Cerdan
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. Thank you.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Alexandre Gérard from Crédit Mutuel CIC.

Alexandre Gérard
Analyst, Crédit Mutuel CIC

Jérôme, good afternoon. Good afternoon to the Investor Relations team. I have three questions. Sorry to insist on that. On Tarkett, again, what is according to you the main point of interest for you? What's your investment thesis? Do you consider that company as a recovery play, as a growth play? What's your investment thesis on that? Second question is on Cromology. In your press release this morning, you mentioned Cromology is looking for targeted acquisitions. Can you tell us more about that? In which countries are there any specificities that they are looking at, what is the financial power of the company? The third question is regarding IHS. You mentioned this morning that they have just announced, and I didn't see that, the acquisition of a Colombian asset.

Can you tell us more about the size of this asset in terms of revenues, margins, acquisition price, or multiples? Thank you, Jérôme.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, Alexandre . First one, our interest in Tarkett. Well, Tarkett is a very interesting company, which has a lot of potential, I think, in its markets, for growth, both organically and through M&A. They have demonstrated in the past, their ability to grow in many of their markets through this strategy of growing organically and doing some M&A over the long term. We are long-term investors, so obviously we are looking ahead for a long horizon, if you understand what I mean. It has faced some challenges more recently, and I think this has been well explained by the company. They faced some specific issues at some of their businesses and divisions. Again, management has provided looking forward views as part of the trading update, and these have been included as well in the prospectus. It's not for me to give you anything else than that.

I would only invite you to look at this, which is obviously what has driven our interest in this situation and in this company. Your second question on Cromology, about targeted acquisitions. Well, the leverage at Cromology is at a very low level, especially when you compare to what it was in the past. We provided the level of leverage at the end of 2020, which showed that the company was at a very low level. It was 0.5 x the EBITDA, so very low level. They are considering some opportunities of various sizes in different countries. We are talking bolt-on acquisitions, not transformational acquisitions, but there are some markets, some geographies where they could develop their positions through acquisitions. That's what we are looking at. Management is very focused on the activity as well, which is quite good and requires a lot of attention.

We will see whether they can pursue these bolt-on acquisitions in the future months. Your third question on IHS, they have indeed announced small acquisitions in Latin America. This represents a very limited number of towers. I think we're talking of roughly 200 towers, so quite minimal in terms of sales and EBITDA contribution in 2021.

Alexandre Gérard
Analyst, Crédit Mutuel CIC

Okay. Thank you very much.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. You have a second question on the line from Joren Van Aken.

Joren Van Aken
Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Yes, good afternoon once again. Just a follow-up question on Tarkett. If the deal would go through, then the LTV could be moving towards 10%. Do you have a maximum LTV scenario today in mind? A second one is on the share buyback. Was this a way to capitalize on the above average discount to NAV, and what are your views on share buybacks in the future? Thank you.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you. With regards to the LTV, we haven't set any maximum, but we are committed to maintaining what we call a strong credit rating or investment-grade rating, if you will. The way S&P or Moody's see that is a little bit different. We think that 20%-25% LTV is the ballpark number for being an investment-grade issuer. That's, I think, what they would call the maximum. At 10% or so, we are still quite far from that. We still have some firepower for new investments, although we obviously would like to keep some cushion on this ratio. Regarding the share buyback, we've done EUR 12 million year to date. We've announced EUR 25 million in total, so we still have EUR 13 million to go. We are opportunistic. We feel the discount is unwarranted at these levels. 38% is quite high with regards to the long-term average.

It's a good opportunity for us to make some share buybacks, but there is a limit to that, and we don't want to go beyond, say, maybe EUR 50 million, EUR 60 million a year. We did three years in a row, back in 2019, where we accelerated to EUR 200 million with a structured program. We are now back more to the business as usual, which is EUR 50 million, EUR 60 million, which is already quite considerable for us when you look at the size of our company.

Joren Van Aken
Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay, very clear. Thank you.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you.

Operator

A reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, star one on your telephone keypad.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Okay.

Operator

No further questions on the telephone line, sir, if you wish to continue.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Yes.

Olivier Allot
Director of Financial Communication and Data Intelligence, Wendel

Yeah.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

I think we have questions from the web. Olivier?

Olivier Allot
Director of Financial Communication and Data Intelligence, Wendel

Yeah. We have questions from the web. One from Pierre Bosset. Hello, Pierre. Hello, regarding Tarkett, three questions. One, the EUR 280 million will be in equity only or a mix between equity and debt for Wendel? Second question, Tarkett will be your first deal in Europe for the last 10 years, but also the first investment as minority investors. Why did Wendel change its policy and agreed to invest as a minority investor? Third question, Wendel, in a way, is replacing KKR. What have you learnt from KKR's investment in Tarkett?

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you, Pierre. Your first question about the equity investment, EUR 280 million is the equity investment that Wendel would make. That's the maximum equity investment for us, and we are going to fund that out of our balance sheet, in the form of cash, so no leverage on this. For the structure of Tarkett Participation and of the offer, again, you can look in the prospectus what amount of debt the company is considering for the transaction. Regarding your second question, well, it's not the first deal in Europe for the last 10 years. Actually, Constantia has been acquired in 2015, so that's more like five, six years. We are very happy, as I said, to have been selected to join forces with the Deconinck family for this great story of French entrepreneurship, and we are very happy as well with our minority position.

Wendel, as always, makes some minority as well as majority investments. I think what matters for us is being able to play our role as a shareholder, and have rights that are commensurate with our investment. We feel we have a balanced governance as a minority shareholder of Tarkett Participation, and are quite happy about that. We are, as you say, "replacing KKR." In the meantime, I think public investors have sort of replaced KKR. We haven't called them to ask them what were the lessons learned. I think they are very professional investors and they have selected Tarkett, which shows, I think, that it's an interesting company and we respect very much that and the work that has been done. It's a new story. It's a new story with Wendel. We are obviously different in the way we operate, different people.

We have a different network, and we think it brings value to this situation. We are, again, very happy about this announcement.

Olivier Allot
Director of Financial Communication and Data Intelligence, Wendel

Thank you. A question from Samarth Agrawal from Citi. Does taking a minority stake in Tarkett should be considered one-off opportunistic events, or is it a departure from your stated preference of acquiring controlling stakes in portfolio companies?

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you. Well, I think we've highlighted that we are flexible with regards to making minority, majority investments. I would say it's not one-off opportunistic. There could be some others. Our investment type is a majority control, but also what we call large minority investments. This one is very much at the core of this sub-strategy, if you will, of minority investments, and we might do others going forward, depending on the opportunities.

Olivier Allot
Director of Financial Communication and Data Intelligence, Wendel

Okay. I have no more question on the web. Operator, do you have any additional question by phone?

Operator

We have no further questions on the phone line, sir.

Olivier Allot
Director of Financial Communication and Data Intelligence, Wendel

Okay. If we have no more questions.

Jérôme Michiels
CFO and EVP, Wendel

Thank you very much for your attention, and looking forward to see you at our next event this year. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude your call for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.