Hello, and welcome to the H1 Sales Call. My name is Rosie, and I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note this call is being recorded and for the duration, your lines will be on listen only. However, you will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end. I will now hand you over to Mathilde Mannion, Head of Investor Relations, to begin today's conference.
Thank you.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. This is Mathilde Magnon, Head of Investor Relations speaking. Thanks for being with us today for SMTP H1 sales. I'm here with our CEO, Daniel Lamond And CFO, Patricia Lyde Despoint.
As usual, we'll go through the presentation, and then we'll have the Q and A session. Before I hand it over to Daniel and Patricia, I invite you to go through our usual disclaimer on Page 2, And I think we can start now.
Yes. Thank you, Matilde, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us this morning. I'll begin with a quick overview of Q2 2021, and Patricia will detail our sales performance by region, And I will briefly conclude. So if you turn to the first slide, in the second quarter, we achieved Sales of €229,400,000 up 61.1 percent on an organic basis, And that was minus 14% reported versus 2019.
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a couple of key messages on the quarter performance. First, on a global basis, we see the confirmation of a progressive catch up versus 2019, which is very positive taking into account the store restriction measures In Mainland China, the performance remains very strong, both in brick and mortar and digital, Including plus 22 percent of growth versus 2019. In the U. S, the momentum observed in Q1 has been confirmed, Going from strength to strength, sales are back to pre pandemic level reaching 11.3% on organic sales basis Versus 2019. In France, we completed a very successful store reopening since May 19, Reaching 33.7 percent growth versus 2020 with a very similar base of comparisons And a very good performance supported by loyal local customers, very excited to be back in our stores.
And the EMEA region Recorded a strong growth despite store closures in key countries and a very low tourism. On digital, The group achieved a penetration of 25 percent of sales in Q2 with again impressive figures in absolute value, normalizing in of sales due to the full reopening of our physical stores. Regarding network, as planned, we continued our brick and mortar network optimization plan With minus 15 and minus 19 DOS in the 1st semester, in France, we closed 25 stores, Mainly very small stores again located in small cities and not in concept and including 14 stores under the Suite 341 I'll say, which is again, as you know, no longer strategic for the company. On the other hand, we continued our expansion in APAC With plus 14 stores over the semester, of which 11 were in China. To conclude, All regions contributed to this continued sequential growth over the quarter.
Very good results considering the store closures, Restrictions, low tourism and less promotional sales. Our teams are committed to the execution of our One Journey strategic plan that we presented last year. And in this context, the group made solid progress on its strategy to improve full price sales, a question we often get asked. As an example, this quarter, we deliberately decided to remove or to stop a former traditional commercial operation in Europe called Summer Party. In this way, we managed to meaningfully decrease our discount rate in all regions, both in brick and mortar and digital.
Now I wanted to share with you some brand initiatives in Q2 illustrating our One Journey implementation. On Slide 5, as you probably saw, Maj has launched the 1st rental service of the group on June 10. The project is central to our strategy since it combines eco responsibility with our service culture mindset. As an extension of MASH's Dream Tomorrow approach, we wanted to offer a new online service, allowing our customers to change their style whenever they want And indulge themselves for every occasion. This service brings back to life some of the most beautiful pieces of our old collection It includes a selection from the new ones, an offer that is 100% ceremony.
From €20 a day, customers can rent dresses, suits and accessories for a few days. Through our new rental platform, we guarantee an eco friendly service from cleaning to delivery. Our rental service has been launched in France and online exclusively, 360 activation has been implemented to promote this new service including a pop up store in the famous Parisian department store, the Garde Henri Lafayette Haussmann. Our clients are very, very enthusiastic and results are promising. So we're very, very proud of this initiative, This innovative digital service strengthening our brand is our ability targeting a new category while spreading a suitable, sustainable message to be engaged.
On Page 6, some other initiatives on sustainability. First one, SONTRO with YUKO Nishikawa Times one tree planted. In Q1, we presented the artistic collaboration with Yuko Nishikawa, the Japanese artist based in New York who designed Sandro's sustainable recycled paper mache mobile sculptures. Sandro and Yukon decided to go further in Q2. From April 2021, in North America, Sango offered these sculptures for sale in partnership with a selected website specializing in art.
And all profits will be donated to One Tree Planted, an environmental charity committed to environmental conservation. This summer, Maj is bringing the sun with 100 percent organic cotton capsule collection called High Summer. A colorful take on the classic loose fitting floral dresses, All the pieces are made of 100 percent GOTS certified cotton. This vibes of Maj this summer are light and responsible. And finally, Clodie Piaud has gone further on its strategy reaching this summer over half of the ready to wear designs and more than a third of the accessories marked Clodie cares.
It means that pieces are made of a certified eco friendly fabric or that can be manufacturing process It is more environmentally friendly than traditional processes with denim that consumes less water, organic cotton shirts, Responsible wool standards, certified wool etcetera, etcetera. Now if I go to Page To slide 7, here you'll see a few innovative and creative collaborations and capsules done in Q2 by our brands. Sandro with smiley. Sandro is once again partnering with a pop up culture icon for a capsule collection, a symbol of optimism and positivity. The smiley is extended in multicolored prints, print pieces that are perfectly embody the smiley spirit between freedom and happiness.
Claude Pierrelot with Voltaire, a French made electric bike brand, taking an ever more committed and bold approach. Joe DiPirlo has teamed up with Cycle's Sicrebourg for a photo shoot. They've also shared a pop up in London for the reopening of Harrods, Famous Luxury Department Store. And last this summer, Josac was inspired by the French Riviera. The The Cote d'Azur reserves a special kind of beauty for the gaze of an American camera.
Kjell Sac's latest collection and capsule pays homage to the iconic film Bonjour Triste, Exploring a vivid and typically French palette and an American inspired style. So these initiatives add desirability to our collections and enable us to Speak to our audiences in a more intimate way, giving the opportunity to surprise, to seduce our community and to enhance customer service. And the results are very promising, boosting sales, driving traffic and new customers as well. On Page 8, Our brands have also implemented new creative initiatives engaging millennials in China. You'll find some examples here.
Maj collaborated with Tmall Heybox to promote its Ibiza capsule during the Tmall anniversary event. Heybox is an online event The TMOL offers to a selected brand to promote new innovative products, a very efficient collaboration which boosted traffic on our Maj Tmall flagship website, more than 100,000 additional unique visitors during this promotion. Sandro Maj and Claude D'Pielo have also worked on the 2nd biggest sales event in Tmall after 11.11 called 6/18 Shopping Festival. We have launched the making of over 260 product short videos, generating plus 30% in additional traffic, And Sandro has worked on a timeless dress campaign with the famous KOL, increasing the sales of dresses category by 15% versus last year. Maj and Clou Di Pirlo have also worked on with KOLs like Jin Tian, a Chinese actress chosen by Maj As brand ambassador for the springsummer collection, who has a follower base of 24,000,000 people on Weibo and Wang Fei Fei, A Chinese singer and actress dressed in the spring summer collection, followed by more than 8,000,000 people on Weibo, and this is for Claude Di Pialot.
So these key initiatives illustrate our strategy to invest in APAC, and particularly in China to benefit from the latest growing region of the group Turning to Slide 9. We also opened new flagships with unique in store experiences in Paris. On May 19, Sandoz reopened its flagship on the prestigious Rue Saint Honore in Paris. This new concept inaugurates a new architectural concept with eco responsible materials designed to offer new, warm and artistic experience with an exclusive and premium sales ceremony, hidden cash desk, Exclusive packaging and gifts. For this new showcase, Sandro collaborated with the artist, Stephen Ormandi, who lives and works in Sydney, Australia.
The paintings and sculpture of the artist are honored. The shapes and color of these works are poetic in the women's And integrated in the women's and men's collection. It also inspired the first Instagram filter of the brand creating engaged interaction with new generation clients. And a new Maize flagship opened its store in the Etienne Marcelle district, 1st at Rondissement Paris, offering a vibrant shopping experience, It's new signature design concept. The 2 floors display contemporary architecture and a selection of vintage furniture coexists Just like the new collection, for this opening, management rental collection showed up in July on the second level of the store.
On Slide 10, here you can see some meaningful store openings we did in APAC over the quarter. Very pleased to announce the opening of our new stores in April, both Sandro and Maj in Kuala Lumpur, KLCC in Malaysia, One of the newest our newest country of the group. In Shanghai, Clodipiello opened a new flagship in Grand Gateway, New concept, new energy, new architecture. Prodi Pirlo has unveiled a new store with an eco friendly design approach and a fresh new architectural concept, Both audacious and yet at the same time elegant, this new design collaborates the sense of or gives in the sense of Parisian forty two so dear to the brand In its own unique way. Sandro and Maj have also opened their stores in Hanan Island and Sanya and the duty free mall.
The introduction of these brands in Hanan follows the travel retail launch of Songou and Maj in Mainland China airports last year. As we opened also and we also opened a store in Shenzhen, a beautiful M. A. S. Store in the Hay Avenue Shopping Center.
All these beautiful openings, again, we wanted to illustrate our expansion strategy in this key region. Now let's move to Page 11, Slide 11, illustrating other tailored expansion strategies and approaches located in Europe and the Americas. First, Fiosac continued its European expansion and opened its first store in Belgium on the famous Avenue Louis area. In North America, Majes opened a store at The Grove in Los Angeles. The brand is thrilled to have launched the store boutique at The Grove, which offers a vibrant Outdoor shopping experience for luxury customers.
The space features the brand's signature design concept with a focus on sustainable design elements, a key pillar for the brand. Then, as you probably know, the famous department store La Samaritaine, created in 18/70 reopened in June. We can currently open Sandro, Maje and Clotipiello in this very prestigious location with strong initial results. And last, Slide 12. As part of a One Journey plan and to complete the customer experience, We've continued to roll out our omni channel services such as click and collect, e reservation, store to web, and launched last year our 4th omni channel Service called ship from store, which in my view is the most important one.
This service unifies our store and warehouse inventories to offer the right products At the right time and in the right place. After successful French rollout last year, we deployed this service In Q2, in new countries in Europe such as the UK, Germany and Spain and Italy and more to come. So now we'll turn over to Patricia, who will take you through the H1 sales performance and Q2 sales by geography in greater detail.
Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, everyone. So moving on to Slide 14 to get an overview of our solid H1 performance. In H1 'twenty one, our sales growth was up plus 23.3 percent organic, driven by like for like And minus 16 reported versus 2019, a sequential improvement in all regions despite store closures and restrictions, especially in Europe, Low traffic and tourism. By region, France and APAC represent each 31% of sales, EMEA 25% and Americas 13%.
It's the 1st semester in the history of the group with APAC above 30% of sales. By brand, grew 47% of sales, followed by MASH 40% and other brands with 13%. E commerce Reached almost 28% of the total sales over the 1st semester. So now on Slide 15, let me highlight some key messages Q2 performance by region. In France, states were up plus 33.7 percent organic, a very good performance versus last year considering that.
First of all, we had similar conditions in terms of store closures and restrictions due to the pandemic, and then we had less promotional sales. We decided, for example, To remove the summer party event, the former traditional promotional event in Europe. Now if we compare it with 2019, sales were down minus 20 8%, we would say only considering 3 key points. 1st, the closure of the entire network for half of the quarter. 2nd, less promotion environment.
No summer party, as already mentioned, and also the delay of summer sales, 13th June this year versus mid June in 2019. And finally, a low tourist traffic. Over the semester, we continued our goods and motor network optimization plan, and we are in line with our 2021 yearly strategy. In EMEA, we delivered a strong growth of +48.9 percent organic, so nearly doubling sales, A very solid performance considering the restrictive measures we faced in the 1st part of the quarter. If we compare with 2019, Sales were down minus 16% from an impact of stores closures over the quarter in key countries like U.
K, Germany or Belgium, The voluntary cancellation of promotional events and the loss of tourism related sales. To be noted, the excellent performance of Russia above 2019. To conclude on these two regions and considering all these pandemic impacts, we consider that we delivered a strong performance. Now turning to Slide 16. In APAC, we delivered a very solid growth of plus 23.2 percent organic, Driven by a strong double digit like for like.
Revenues are above 2019 despite some pandemic headwinds in key cities In Mainland China, some key cities have faced store closures and restrictions, for example, Shenzhen, Guangzhou or Shenyang, And also in Taiwan, Singapore and Malaysia. Despite those restrictions, mainly in China's performance remained strongly positive, reaching plus 22% versus 'nineteen And supported by double digit like for like growth, both in brick and mortar and in digital. Another successful market in APAC, South Korea, back to the level of 2019. And finally, over the semester, we continued the network expansion plan with plus 14 in the U. S, of which plus 11 in Mainland China.
Now let's talk about Americas, where sales more than tripled versus last year, supported by triple digit like for like growth. While Canada was still impacted by store closures and restrictive measures to contain the pandemic, the momentum observed in the Q1 In the United States has been confirmed, with sales exceeding pre pandemic level at 31% organic. I will now hand over to Daniel for a brief summary.
Yes. Thank you, Patricia. Listen, in summary, everyone, we recorded, again, a Strong momentum in Q2 in all regions, reaching a 61% growth on an organic basis, with APAC in the U. S. Above Pre pandemic levels.
We've made solid progress on our full price strategy, which is super important, delivering a meaningful reduction in promotion sales share. Our teams pursued the execution of our One Journey roadmap very strongly in H1 with strong creative and disruptive brand initiatives. It's why we took a little time to The continued successful rollout of our omni channel services such as ship from store, selective impactful stores, Store openings in Europe and North America and the continued physical expansion in APAC. So thanks for your attention. I think we can now take some questions.
Thank you, Daniel. Operator, I think we have one question. Yes, thank you. So just before
we go to the questions, if I can remind you that So our first question comes from the line of David de Maia from CIC. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. So three questions for me, please. 2 on your performance in the French market and one on markdown policy. So starting with the French market. So I understood the delay of the sales period and the consolidation of the summer party I've waited on your performance in Q2, but can you quantify the negative impact?
For example, is it fair to assume That the decrease of your sales versus 2019 would have been close to Q1 if we exclude this negative impact From your reduced promotional activity. The second question on exit rate in France. If we look at the data From institutions like EFM or organizations like Carnes du Commerce, they suggest that the French apparel market was close to Or even slightly above 2019 level in June for the first time this year, maybe thanks to strong pent up demand following reopening. So have you recorded similar improving trends in June or more recently in July With sales now above 2018 levels in France. And the last one on markdown.
You said that you have significantly reduced your promotional activity in H1. Can you give us an update on the level of your discount rate And the share of full price compared to last year or even 2019? And what would be the impact Of your full price strategy on your gross margin this semester? Thank you.
Yes. Thank you. Thank you, David. Those are very specific and detailed questions, fine on the French market. Maybe I'll let Patrice get back to you or answer the 3 of them.
I just wanted to say maybe in Also your third question on markdown. As you know it's a big part of our strategy going forward. It's one that was That we put in place in 2019, just pre pandemic. We've made some really good progress, as we mentioned in the talk this morning. Over, I'll let Patricia decide if she gets very specific on what the decrease in markdown rate That we've had, but it's anywhere in the 400 basis points range in H1.
But we've I think what I wanted to say is we've taken a very Deliberate effort to look at all the promotional cadence in a typical year and then decided on a global basis To remove them, very selective ones, the market is still the less promotional markets. We've made some meaningful Decreases in discount rate in the Asian market, which still is the lowest one as well. So it's a real strong objective Of ours, I was really happy with very pleased with the performance in H1. Patricia, maybe I'll let you comment on the other two questions.
Yes. Okay, Danielle. Esa David, and thank you for your question. So regarding France, First point to confirm to you that we are in line with the typically ISM panel that you mentioned in June. So Reflecting the sequential improvement month by month over the quarter.
2nd, regarding the summer party and the delays of sales, I would say that those two effects combined account for €5,000,000 to €10,000,000 of sales. So yes, it has Meaningful impact on the quarter. But once again, we completely Except this impact, it seems it's better for gross margin and image.
You can just repeat the impact in terms of 1,000,000 of
I said €5,000,000 to €10,000,000
€5,000,000,000 Okay. Thank you.
Okay. I think Daniel answered to you about the discount rates. So I confirm that we over the semester, we reduced the discount rates by 4 percentage points. So we are very happy about that since we now normalize the level of discount rate at 30%. And we are very happy about that because it's visible in all the channels, brick and mortar and Digital, in all geographies, Americas, Asia and Europe, and also for all the brands.
So this is for sure I'm saying very positive for the group. We will give you additional details and impact on gross margin rates early September during the H1 results call. Thank you, Patrizia. Operator, I think we have another question. Yes, we do.
Thank you. So the next question comes from
the line of Catherine Parker from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. So I've got 2. My first question is on the store network. So I just wondered if you could make some comments on what you think the net store opening pipeline will look like for the second half.
I was positively surprised by the 25 net openings. So I wondered if you perhaps want to Increase your guidance from what you said for the full year. And then my second question is on the Maersh rental service And how you would measure success of that initiative, whether it's sales or volumes or It's perception which you perceive as most important. A follow-up to that is, would you consider launching a subscription service Rather than one off rentals. And then the third follow-up is, For rental, which would be your next target market?
Would it be the U. S. Or maybe the UK? Thank you.
Okay. Catherine, thank you. Thank you. Maybe I'll take your questions 2 and 3, very briefly. I'll let Patricia give some comments on the store network In H2, just a quick line on the store network.
We have as planned this year, we're finishing up. I'll give you a little context on the We're finishing up. This is the last year of the French optimization plan. It's a program that we put in place roughly 18 months ago In order to optimize our brick and mortar network in France, we had a lot of stores, as you know, and they were in some very, very small locations. And simply that was done in the past.
They were all profitable, but we decided to really use I guess the crisis in some senses are just right before it as well. We had decided just to look at it as we've been starting from a white piece of paper On how to optimize the distribution in France. So that will finish this year. Maize rental, a couple of things. So there's Four things that are important for me and this service.
So we wanted to take baby steps because as you know, we've done it all ourselves. So it's you go on the website and it's a navigation button of the website to get to match rental etcetera. So it was Very strong customer experience. I look at 3 4 things. I look at sales, obviously, the acquisition of new customers, Brand desirability by proposing a sustainability concept and it has to be profitable.
I'm not looking for it to be initially profit accretive, but certainly profitable. So those are the things that we were looking at when we launched it. Subscription basis, we decided Ma'am, we decided to go another way to make it very, very simple. You have 3 or 4 levels of Pricing for 2 or 3 days rentals, and we may look into subscriptions a little bit later. In terms of rolling out, the markets were already present today in North America with Rent the Runway.
So that's more of a partner, but we will roll out this Maj owned rental, if you will, in a couple of key markets, probably next year. I want to give it a little bit more legs and see how it goes now until the end of the year. And we're also we'll announce this in the future, also working on some Resell concepts that we can appropriate ourselves in the future. Well, Patricia, maybe I'll let you say a few words on the store network, H2 in France?
Yes, Daniel. So as we already mentioned, in France, we closed around 25 in H1 and should be about the same number in H2. And by the end of the year, we will have Completed our French network optimization. So H2 should be similar to H1, mainly concentrated In Q3, basically due to end of contracts.
Great. Thank you very
much. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you. Thank you. The next
question comes from the line of Giles Crespo from Alisa. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Daniel, Patricia for your input and thank you for taking my questions. I would have 2. One is for Patricia. Could you give us a picture on the level of temporary closures in Europe over the second quarter? And maybe one with Daniello, which was partially answered just now.
On the network, do you consider restarting New openings outside OPEC and when would you expect some feasibility to do so? Thank you.
All right, Clarissa, I'll let you start.
Yes. So I think we have to look area by area because these are very specific situations. So in France, the basis of comparison was very similar to Q2 2020 with half Of the network closed from early April to 19th May for the real thing. In Europe, Let's say it's about 10%, 15% of store closures or store impacts can be closures, can be Limited attendance in the stores. In APAC, it was from time to time A few days in Mainland China, I listed some countries.
There are some others. Difficult to say percentage. It's marginal. It's a few points. And in Americas, nothing special in the U.
S. But in Canada, Ontario region was closed nearly all the quarter. So Let's say it's a chance for probably around 10% of closure in Americas over the quarter.
Thank you very much. All right. And listen, on the network, I can say a few things on the brick and mortar network. So It's an atypical year this year because if you aggregate all the numbers, we complete the French network. So I'd have to take that out For now, the French network, as Patricia mentioned, will probably close on a net basis.
So you see we've opened some beautiful new stores as So we're not disinvesting it from France. We're optimizing the network. I think that's super important, but maybe 50, 55 stores this year will come out of the network in France. Then it will be more stable going forward and that our objective clearly is continue to gain market share and like for like growth in France. In the other regions, APAC, primarily China.
So, we continue to open To run our official strategy in that region, both online and offline, We're probably 15 to 20 stores, new stores in the region this year, with most of them being in China. And we will continue on this pace and maybe increase it over the next years as well, but also increasing digital as well. Digital, not only organic Sites, but also potentially opening new websites, new e commerce websites in the APAC region. In North America and Europe, our approach is again fair to be selective on brick and mortar. There will be some store openings.
I mentioned The Grove in LA, which is Fabulous, fabulous mall. It's hard you can't get in, it's hard to get in. So we're very proud that Majo opened up. So there are some opportunities in North America, but the network will stay relatively And in Europe, we still have some areas where we're not present, some markets like Portugal, Some Eastern European countries as well, which are interesting, and even some existing countries like Germany, where we have 57 stores among 3 brands. So we still have some areas To open up our store network, but more selective, obviously, in Europe and even more selective in North America going forward.
Thank you very much, Daniel. Operator, I think we have another question. We do, yes. So next question comes from the
line of Geoffroy Michelet from ODDO BHF. Please go ahead.
Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one has to do with the like for like growth. Could you give us some hints on the Global level of like for like and especially versus 2019. The second question has to do with Your analysis of the recent share price performance or shall I say underperformance, especially in the context Well, we have no real bad surprises in terms of the operational performance, which is great or at least in line with consensus.
And thirdly, maybe could you give us just a few words on the controversy for the WIGO work in some regions that you denied to be involved in? Thank you.
Sure. Thank you, Geoffroy. Listen, again, maybe I'll take Question 23 and let Patricia give you some details on like for like, your like for like question. So, share price, that's going to be an easy one. My job is Mainly on the second part you said, the operational side to make sure that the business is healthy, is strong.
It's got legs for the future and that we're working on the right subjects and that we're investing in the right areas, which I'm convinced we are And that there's plenty of still a growth, profitable growth to be had in our plans. So that's been my focus and that's the focus of the team, The teams all the time. I don't really have any insights into the ups and downs of the share Price underperformance, but you can say a few months ago, there was a big rally as well in the share. So it's hard for me to pinpoint a specific element. There has been, as you know, in the Overall market in the past week or so, there's been some sell off in different sectors.
So I think obviously, we there was some That's cyclical and some stock market overall trends that we were part of. But again, my focus has been on running Great company for the future. On the Uyghurs, I guess, on the claim, you're About clarity on the claim. Well, listen, the claim was filed, as you know, on April 9th, and We have made many statements in the press and people who feature this article, etcetera, internally as well, Saying that we just simply deny all these accusations, we're very, very shocked. I was surprised, very surprised to read that.
We will cooperate with the investigation because we have to, of course, and we'll play good guy. We're already preparing any documents available. And again, we steadfastly just deny any accusations. I was really shocked because we think we're a good guy On all this, we have a strong supplier code of conduct that's been in place for quite some time. We ask every supplier to sign it.
Some have not, and we stopped working with them. We do audits as well. We audit our supplier base since 2017, Both environmental audits, social audits, some of them we have to pass the test, some of them haven't, we've stopped working with in the past. Our sourcing is also very independent, 100% independent of our majority shareholder, Shandong Ruiy. We don't produce at all.
We have never produced in the Xinjiang region ever in the history of our company. So these are just a couple of I wanted to put forth to say that we were really surprised, and we deny the accusations 100%. Then we'll just comply.
Thank you, Daniel. Regarding your question on like for like, It's a tricky exercise to calculate like for like a year when Many stores are closed, and we think it's not the ideal year to talk about like for like. That being said, we would say that Like for like versus 2019 or 2020 is not very different from the performance we display at constant rates. And this is also part of our strategy to have most of the evolution coming from like for like, And this is what's happening in 2021. Thank you, Patricia.
Thank you very much.
I think we have another question. Yes. Our next question comes from
the line of Marie Linaforz from SG. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good morning, all. Thanks for taking my question. I've got 2. Just to complete the answers you've Already provided on the network expansion, could you give us some level of CapEx you projected for 2021?
And also a quick comment on your online penetration because if I'm right, your penetration decreased Slightly in Q2 compared to Q1. Do you have any reasons for that?
Thank you. Thank you, Marilina. Patricia, maybe I'll let you take those questions if you like. Okay.
Yes. Maybe the first one on online penetration. You know, Marilyn, Q1 was a little bit distorted in some Areas due to the closures of some stores. When you compare one area in 2021 versus 2020 With the opening closures of stores, it makes figures distorted. In Q2, just because we reopened Our physical stores, what we see is that our customers, yes, they continue purchasing online and they like this, But they are also very happy to get back to the physical stores.
So we think it's just some normalization Of this ratio, this is why it's decreasing a little bit compared to Q1. However, it remains at a very high level of 25%, Which is in the history of SMTP, a very strong level. So this is for online penetration And CapEx, I think we'll discuss this more in detail early September at the call regarding results and Thank you, Patricia. Operator, I think this is the last one question.
Yes. We have one final question. So this comes from the line of Boris Dexter from Aperture Investors. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Just a quick question for me. So from what I understand, there could potentially be a change in ownership in September. Could you discuss the potential implications on the operations of the business? So how integrated is Re with the SMCP story?
For example, are they important to your supply chain?
Yes, sure. That's a precise question. So, listen, I think I'd say that the context, if look at the context from our initial relationship with Rui, it was in 2016. I was there. In fact, I met them at the end of 'fifteen.
The premise was always they would come on board as a strategic investor, I. E. More Just an overall investor, but not involved in the operations, and it's been the case ever since. So we've been running Our operations, I'd say independently, really, even in China as well. We know the market.
We simply have an executive team that knows market very well, the landlords, etcetera. We ask for their help if and when needed, but we've run the company fairly Autonomously. And from the sourcing point of view, we have no sourcing. First of all, our sourcing strategy is separate From that of Rui. And we don't use them we don't source from Rui at this point in time.
So it's never been part of our approach on the Rappochmal with our majority shareholder. We run the business independently. As well on the financing We've got our own funding programs with our key banks in Europe, which is independent of that. That's been the hypothesis in the way we run the business, if you will, from 2016 from 2016.
Thank you, Daniel. Thank you very much. I think we are done with the questions. So I wish you a nice day. The next publication will happen in September for H1 rejects.
So thank you very much.
Thank you, everyone. Wish you a nice day.
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