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Earnings Call: Q3 2023

Oct 26, 2023

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the SMCP 2023 Q3 revenue. My name is Caroline, and I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note, this call is being recorded, and for the duration of the call, your lines will be on listen-only mode. However, you'll have an opportunity to ask questions at the end of the call. This can be done by pressing star one on your telephone keypad to register your questions. If you require assistance at any point, please press star zero, and you'll be connected to an operator. I will now hand over the call to your host, Amélie Dernis, the head of investor relations, to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Amélie Dernis
Head of Investor Relations, SMCP

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for being with us today for the publication of SMCP Q3 2023 sales. I'm here with our CEO, Isabelle Guichot, and our CFO, Patricia Despointes. As usual, we can go through the presentation, and then we'll have the Q&A session. Before I hand it over to Isabelle and Patricia, I invite you to go through our usual disclaimer on page two, and I think we can start now.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you, Amélie. Good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us this morning. We'll have first a look at the key figures of this quarterly sales and share an overview of the main business initiatives. Then I'll hand it over to Patricia, who will deep dive in our performance by area, and I will briefly conclude. On page four, you can see that our Q3 sales came in completely in line with the trading update that we released in September, at the level of EUR 295 million. It decreased by 1% at constant foreign exchange rate and 2% organic, explained by the consumption slowdown in Europe and America, and a slow recovery of China's economy. To me, noted also that we're fighting against very high comps, as Q3 last year was the highest level ever in the history of the SMCP group.

At the end of September, year-to-date sales stand at EUR 905 million, up 4% on an organic basis, and growing 5% at constant exchange rate. Like-for-like growth is at 2%. Here are the key messages from this quarter. First one is the trend is homogeneous across the brand. Two, the pursuit of full price strategy with a stable discount rate despite high comps and challenging environment, is a key milestone of our strategy. Three, digital sales are progressing at circa the same pace as brick-and-mortar. Digital share remains at a satisfactory level, above 20%. And four, as we had announced, the network extension this year is concentrated on the second semester, which materialized in 246 net POS openings this quarter.

To be noted that a significant part, almost more than half of it, are done with our retail partners during this semester. Moving on to page five, you will find here the performance by region. Patricia will get more in detail later on in the presentation, but I just would like to comment a few highlights. By brand, as I mentioned, an homogeneous performance across all brands during the quarter, with fall/winter collections well received by our clients, who expressed positive feedback. By region, APAC gained one point versus last year, resulting from 2022, impacted by COVID restrictions. Symmetrically, America decreased by one point, resulting from 2022-2023 more challenging economic environment. By channel, no change, with 92% of our business coming from our retail network. Moving on.

Now, move on page six, let me present some of the key initiatives in terms of marketing and creative, to foster our brand desirability. Starting with Sandro, a very nice capsule collaboration with Wrangler, the, the denim brand. This capsule is intended to be versatile for both men and women. This fluidity of gender and style porosity is the very essence of Sandro, where the women's and men's studio take pleasure in creating pieces that can be worn indifferently by all genders. For Wrangler and Sandro, it was essential to incorporate sustainable design choices in each piece. For example, the tobacco jacket, trousers, and ensemble was developed using 50% recycled material, promoting a circular production process and limiting environmental impact. Page seven, an important launch for the group, this quarter, the new Miss M bag, launched by Maje.

The bag received a very strong response from our clients, as it really embodies the cool spirit of the brand and twists classic details of our famous M bag, which is the main vocabulary of the brand in accessories. While being clearly identified as belonging to the same family as its bigger sister, the M bag, it's also completely different and unique. The launch of this new line was supported by the fall/winter campaign, showcasing Lila Moss in London. But there has also been a wide coverage all around the world, through impressive outdoor visuals from Paris to New York, and even Wuhan in China, and through windows animation in the main flagship of the brand, as you can see from the picture. Page eight, initiatives from our other brands, so Claudie Pierlot and Fursac. Claudie Pierlot continues to reaffirm its Parisian style.

This fall, the brand launches a new Claudie Pierlot monogram, a large display in all the communication and products, such as, for example, the cinema series that you can see on, on the left side. Regarding Fursac, let's have a look at this very nice pop-up in Galeries Lafayette Haussmann, an exclusive place to showcase the brand's fall/winter collection that was inspired by the Alps region, a kind of a chalet ambiance. The pop-up was designed to combine tradition and contemporary, blending the coziness of the chalet with the look of a penthouse. Page nine-... A few pictures, as we usually feature of our collaboration with key opinion leaders, and this obviously is an ongoing work that we do to foster the brand desirability and visibility over the world.

You can see impressive names in this list, for example, like Chiara Ferragni with Sandro, or Rami Malek at Fursac, just to name a few of them. Page 10, a few highlights of our development strategy. You can see interesting openings for Fursac in Madrid, Spain, and on Claudio Coello and in Berlin. This is a part of the strategy for the brand, both key flagship in key cities, mixed with a network of corner opening in department stores. America, as we mentioned earlier, our effort to extend the network in the U.S. start to bear fruit. So we can see a nice opening of Sandro in Georgetown, Washington, D.C. And we have other openings planned for Q4 in America. two to three in APAC, three examples of some openings.

We mentioned earlier the importance of the Hainan region, and so you can see our store, Sandro and Maje, in Sanya Haitang Bay in Hainan. And also, another opening in The Londoner in Macao, which is benefiting from the reopening of the city. Page thirteen, another few pictures of our openings with partners. As I mentioned, that in Q3 they were very important contributors to the network opening. Three important countries, and we just opened in Egypt with a partner. We opened important stores in Galataport, and for Maje in Turkey and Vietnam. Now, I hand it over to Patricia to do a deep dive on the different regions and channels.

Patricia Huyghues Despointes
CFO, SMCP

Thank you, Isabelle. Good morning, everyone. So a bit more detail by region on page 15. After a quite robust performance in H1, Europe as a whole, both France and EMEA countries, saw a slight decrease in Q3. The period was impacted by low traffic due to general inflation, so mechanical consumption slowed down and low tourist flows, especially in France, the U.K. and Italy. In France, however, the group outperformed key market indicators such as IFM or Banque de France, consolidating its competitive position. This is a safe sign of positive like-for-like growth. In EMEA, to be noted that in the Middle East, the trend remained positive. The network expands with 20 net openings in Q3 in Egypt, as Isabelle mentioned, a new country, Turkey, via partners, adding to some other openings in key EMEA retail markets in Britain, Malta, and Portugal.

On page sixteen, in America, after a very strong year, 2022, third quarter sales went down by -7%, with a contracted performance by country. While the activity in Canada was still heavily impacted by the retail market environment and the lack of tourism, sales in the U.S. were more resilient despite a complex economic context. The group, with a positive result in key cities such as Miami and Houston, is well positioned compared to our market trend. The network regained growth momentum with nine net openings. In APAC, Q3 is up +1% on an organic basis and +5% at constant effects. In the context of slow China economic recovery, sales in Greater China are slightly positive, while the trend in other markets, such as Singapore and Malaysia, was more positive.

The region benefits also from the integration of Australia and New Zealand in our own retail network, which explains the difference between organic and constant effects. The network continues to expand with 17 openings, particularly in South Korea, Greater China and Vietnam. On page 17, in this tough environment, we have launched a savings plan that we explained during the latest publication at the end of July. This savings plan bears its fruit in line with expectations. It will trigger some savings in both quarters of H2, with more or less similar impact in Q3 and Q4, depending on the lines and depending on the seasonality of the different natures of expenses. This action plan enables us to contain more than in H1, the evolution of operating expenses.

Moving on to page 18, aside from OpEx control, the top focus is pace managing inventories and preserving cash. Regarding inventories, we have launched an action plan to based on several initiatives that you can see on this slide. Spring 2024 purchases are sized to match exact needs, but to avoid unnecessary buffers, and we continue to liquidate, including Chinese collections impacted by COVID constraints last year. Considering this action plan, we are confident we can maintain the value of inventories at year-end 2023, compared to year-end 2022. The direct consequences on cash and the debt, as you know, cash generation for us is always higher in H2 than in H1. As a reminder, also, we have secured our liquidity until 2026 and 2027 for our main sources of financing, term loans, state guarantee loans, and revolving credit facility.

We estimate that year-end, the debt should land somewhere between year-end 2022 and June 2023 levels, so at circa EUR 300 million. I leave it to Isabelle to conclude.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you, Patricia. I can only confirm that the management team at SMCP is completely focused on delivering performance, controlling costs, managing inventories, and preserving cash. Thanks to the solid progress of the action plan and the consolidation of this action in Q4, we confirm the adjusted target. I thank you for your attention. We'll be happy to share with you our full year figures at the end of February twenty-fourth, and now we will take on your questions.

Amélie Dernis
Head of Investor Relations, SMCP

Thank you, Isabelle. Operator, I think we have one question.

Operator

Thank you. We will take. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. We will take the first question from line, David Da Maia from CIC. The line is open now, please go ahead.

David Da Maia
Equity Analyst of Luxury and Consumer goods, CIC Market Solutions

Hi, good morning. So thank you for taking my question. The first one on current trading. So you have mentioned a consumption slowdown in Western market during Q3. I was wondering if this demand weakening has continued in, I would say, in most recent weeks, or whether you are starting to see some sign of, I don't know, stabilization or even improvement in October with the rollout of your fall-winter collections. But actually, the same one on China. You are talking about a slow and weak economic recovery there, but we also heard about improving trends recently in this market. So have you seen any signs of improvement in store traffic more recently? And the second one on your action plan. So you expect an increasing impact in Q4.

Can you tell us which level, which pillar, will be, will have the biggest impact in Q4? Will it be cost savings or scope effects? And related to that, how many DOS do you plan to open in Q4, just to understand the scope effect to anticipate in Q4? Thank you.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you. I will take the first question on current trading. To be honest, the beginning of October was in line with September trend, but the second half of the month showed some good signs, especially in Europe. That's all we can say at that time. For China, we're just at the eve of important commercial operation and activities like 11.11, so it's too early to say. And at the same time, Q4 in China will be compared to last year. We'll benefit from a very, very low comparable because the network started to be really impacted by COVID. We'll see, but that's all we can say at that time of the year.

On the action plan, I will leave it to Patricia.

Patricia Huyghues Despointes
CFO, SMCP

Yeah. So on the action plan, as a reminder, and maybe you can get back to slide 17. Four main families of initiative. The first one is on the discretionary cost, the T&E, events, consulting, et cetera. The second one is on marketing. Third one is on IT infrastructure project, and the fourth is about staff productivity. As we mentioned on slide 17, we are basically at the middle of it, so it's in line with expectation. It just depends on the seasonality of expenses. For example, marketing is more heavy traditionally in Q4 than in Q3, so the effect will be more visible in Q4 than in Q3. So for the rest, everything is progressing as expected.

We reorganized the timeline of our project. We also tried to scope a bit differently or roll out a bit differently. In terms of productivity, we did some progress in stores, also in HQ. And you were also mentioning the scope effect. For sure, it will be more visible in Q4 than in Q3. And the difference actually between localized and organic is not so big in Q3. It's one point something%. Why? Because most of the openings of the quarter, there were many openings, but most of them were in September. Explaining a relatively low impact on perimeter. And the rest being on wholesale, so not impacting monthly sales.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

You had the last question of the number opening in Q4. It's always a bit of a rush, and it won't be. A lot of them are in September, so then again, it won't have a huge impact on Q4, but it's around between 12 and 15 opening roughly.

Amélie Dernis
Head of Investor Relations, SMCP

Thank you. I think we have another question.

Operator

We will take the next question from line, Adam Joseph from Bank of America. The line is open now, please go ahead.

Adam Joseph
Principal, Bank of America

Hi, thank you so much for taking my question. I just had one. On trading in Europe, you called out U.K., Italy, and France with specific trends, but I was wondering if you could provide any color on trends in Germany, just because there's been some reports from other companies recently that maybe the consumer is under particular pressure in Germany and the overall DACH region. Thanks.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

No, we don't see any major difference between Europe and Germany. See any Germany lagging behind in a really, I mean, in a noticeable way. Don't forget also that Germany, for us, is, yes, a physical retail country, but also an important digital country, and there, again, we don't see any major impact.

Adam Joseph
Principal, Bank of America

Okay, thank you.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

It's not a major market for us in Europe. I mean, it's a contributing market, but it's not our number one market in Europe, obviously.

Adam Joseph
Principal, Bank of America

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. We will take the next question from line, Geoffroy Michalet from Oddo. The line is open now, please go ahead.

Geoffroy Michalet
Sell Side Analyst, Oddo BHF

Hello, thank you for the. Taking the questions. Just a remark on slide 18, coming back to inventories. You are speaking in amount of inventories in absolute euro, not in days of inventories, just to clarify?

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Yeah, yeah, in value, yes.

Geoffroy Michalet
Sell Side Analyst, Oddo BHF

In value. And so, and you also had a comment on net debt at year-end. So what does it imply, you know, in terms of margin and, let's say, promotional activities for Q4? What's your view on that?

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

I think we have it for the time being, we have planned a similar, you know, similar activity, level of activity for then, and commercial pressure as, you know, as last year, especially in Europe, because China was very specific. So nothing, nothing. We haven't planned to enhance our promotional pressure in the Q4 to protect the margin, and also because we don't need it.

Geoffroy Michalet
Sell Side Analyst, Oddo BHF

Okay. Thank you. Last question. Still, no update from the shareholder situation by any chance?

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

No, the answer is no.

Geoffroy Michalet
Sell Side Analyst, Oddo BHF

Yeah. So just to clarify and to make it clear on the call, that I think the market believes it is penalizing the stock, you know, since the advisor has been involved.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

We agree.

Geoffroy Michalet
Sell Side Analyst, Oddo BHF

Okay. That was it for me. Thank you.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you.

Patricia Huyghues Despointes
CFO, SMCP

Thank you. Thank you, everybody. I think we have.

Operator

Thank you. There are no other questions. Thank you.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you.

Patricia Huyghues Despointes
CFO, SMCP

We wish you a good day. Thank you.

Isabelle Guichot
CEO, SMCP

Thank you.

Operator

For joining today's call, you may now disconnect.

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