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Earnings Call: Q1 2024

May 14, 2024

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the CGG Q1 2024 Financial Results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there'll be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one and one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to CGG. Please go ahead.

Christophe Barnini
Head of Investor Relations, CGG

Thank you, Sean. Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this presentation of CGG's first quarter 2024 results. The call today is hosted from Paris, where Mrs. Sophie Zurquiyah, Chief Executive Officer, and from Los Angeles, where Mr. Jérôme Servant, Group CFO, will provide an overview of the quarter results, as well as provide comments on our outlook. Let me remind you that some of the information contained forward-looking statements, and therefore, that may change at any time. Following the overview of the quarter, we will be pleased to take your questions, and now I will turn the call over to Sophie.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Thank you. Thank you, Christophe. Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for participating in this Q1 2024 conference call. I would like to start by first recognizing Christophe's numerous contributions to CGG. After 28 years in the company and holding various key finance, business, and commercial leadership positions, he will be retiring in a few weeks. All the best to you in your future endeavors, Christophe, and thank you for the great work. We're now moving on to slide 2. We're off to a good start in 2024. Overall, activity was strong in Q1 across all our three business lines and across all geographic locations. Exploration activities continue to progressively pick up globally, with interest from all client profiles in all geographies, including in an increasing number of frontier areas.

To respond to projected supply-demand balance, our clients are also continuing to accelerate their field development programs, where ocean bottom node technology, which requires advanced imaging, is establishing itself as the reference in mature basins across the globe. The Gulf of Mexico and Norway remain very active, sustained by demand for incremental barrels, which is driving increased high-end imaging and OBN activity. The Middle East and North Africa are active, while Asia Pacific is picking up nicely with increasing IOC presence. Looking at CGG in Q1, I am very pleased to report our best first quarter since 2018. Overall, the quarter was strong, with excellent performance and $13 million in net cash flow generation, despite $20 million paid for our vessel contractual commitments, which highlights the benefits of our decision to become an asset-light company.

Q1 revenue reached $273 million, up 30% year-on-year. Geoscience was up 11% year-on-year at $88 million. Global activity remained strong, supported by demand for high-end large projects and NOCs increasing activity. Earth Data was up 50% year-on-year at $97 million, driven mainly by broader geographical demand. Sensing and Monitoring was up 35% year-on-year at $89 million, with high deliveries of land equipment this quarter. Segment EBITDA was up 58% year-on-year at $106 million, including $16 million of penalty fees from vessel commitments at 39% margin. Now on slide three. There were two positive post-closing events in April that I would like to highlight. First, the S&P Global Ratings upgraded our long-term debt, recognizing our commitment to deleverage our balance sheet.

Second, the settlement of our long-lasting dispute in India for a net amount of around $13 million. These are positive events for our financial roadmap. Going on to slide four. DDE segment revenue was solid this quarter at $185 million, up 28% year-on-year, with growth in both Geoscience and Earth Data. Profitability improved year-on-year to a 56% EBITDA margin, while still being impacted by penalty fees from vessel commitments. Let's go on to the business line now. On slide five, Geoscience external revenue was $88 million in Q1, up 11% year-on-year. Geoscience had very solid activity, led by high-end work in all regions. The market continues to strengthen, driven mainly by increased activity in infrastructure-led exploration and field development.

Backlog at $227 million is up 23% since the end of last year, thanks to a catch-up in order intake. Slide six. Following 18% external revenue growth in 2023, Geoscience grew 11% in Q1 year-on-year. Increasing demand for our high-end technologies, along with the increasing size of the projects, drove the solid start of the year for Geoscience. Use of our unique Elastic Full Waveform Inversion is expanding geographically, increasingly providing value in all basins globally across all geologic settings, including those that are less complex.... is in definition and fidelity. We can also apply the latest artificial intelligence and machine learning techniques with our expert modifications, to extract insights that accelerate the speed and accuracy of structural and stratigraphic interpretation.

The picture on this slide is a very nice example of the added value of AI to detect sand injectites, and they're in green on the picture, in the Norwegian North Sea, which are expected to be oil bearing. Combining the best geoscience technology with the best data science technology is a powerful combination and fits CGG's strength very well. Looking at our low carbon businesses in CCUS, we see increasing demand in reservoir screening, along with monitoring design, and in mineral and mining, we used our high-end imaging technology to successfully map an ore body of interest deep below the surface in Australia to identify new extraction opportunities. Slide seven. We continue to advance the value of seismic for reservoir management. Reservoir engineers are interested in understanding small reservoir changes in time, which has historically been a challenge. Full Waveform Inversion is increasingly being applied successfully in this space.

This example is offshore Brazil, and it shows our advanced 4D Full Waveform Inversion technology, clearly distinguishing the producing and water injection layers in the 4D response, helping reservoir engineers adjust their reservoir models and optimize production. Now going on to Earth Data. Slide 8. In general, we see our clients starting to expand the breadth of their focus areas, especially IOCs, international oil companies, who are regaining interest and becoming more active in frontier areas. Q1 Earth Data cash CapEx was $50 million, up 79% year-on-year, driven by a larger portfolio of well-funded ongoing projects. Prefunding revenue was very strong at $58 million, driving our prefunding rate to 116%. After-sales was $39 million this quarter, up 32% year-on-year, mainly driven by active projects and interest in South America, North Sea and Africa.

Slide nine. With this strong level of prefunding, our portfolio of ongoing multi-client projects is growing larger and geographically broader in scope. This quarter, we completed our second Gulf of Mexico node project ahead of schedule, despite initial weather delays. In Asia, we completed our 2D survey in Malaysia and started a new survey in Australia. We continued the expansion of our CCUS subsurface data packages in the Gulf of Mexico and in the UK, mainly for screening application, and the recent CCUS lease round in Norway fits very well our data library. Now on sensing and monitoring, slide ten. Our sensing and monitoring segment revenue at $89 million was stronger year-over-year this quarter, up 35%.

The growth was mainly supported by land equipment sales at $39 million, while marine equipment sales remained stable year- on- year at $34 million, driven by demand for OBN equipment. Sales from our new businesses were stable at $11 million, and at this level of revenue, the EBITDA margin of the sensing and monitoring business line was 11%. Now with highlights on slide 11. During the quarter, SMO sold its first 528 land acquisition system, together with the new VE564 vibrator electronic system. The 528 land acquisition system includes several new features designed to improve recording capacity, reliability, productivity, and data fidelity, fits challenging survey requirements. We had significant deliveries of our GPR300 node this quarter in Europe, as clients appreciate the quality of our unique sensor, which enables better imaging.

In our new businesses, we deployed a commercial railway monitoring solution during the first quarter, and it is worth noting that we see a progressively increasing portion of our equipment, standard equipment, going to a new group of clients for application outside the oil and gas industry. Let me now give the floor to Jérôme for more comments on our financials.

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Thank you, Sophie. Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I will comment on the Q1 2024 financial results, starting with the P&L on slide 13. Our segment revenue was up 30% year-on-year, at $273 million, which was our best first quarter since our decision to become an asset-light company in 2018. As mentioned by Sophie, all group businesses were up this quarter, with geoscience growing in line with the E&P CapEx, EDA driven by both higher prefunding and after-sales, and SMO benefiting from strong land system delivery. The respective contributions from the group businesses were 32% from Geo, 35% from EDA, and 33% from the SMO segment. Adjusted segment EBITDA was $106 million, despite $16 million fees related to vessel underutilization.

Segment EBITDA was up 59% year-on-year, at a margin of 39%.... Segment DDE, the segment EBITDA was at $103 million, or 56% margin, and our SMO segment EBITDA was at $10 million, at an 11% margin. Adjusted segment operating income was $29 million, or 11% margin, and with an IFRS 15 adjustment of negative eight million, this lead to an IFRS operating income of $20 million for the quarter. Net income was close to breakeven at minus $3 million. Moving on to slide 14. Q1 2024 segment operating cash flow, which is EBITDA minus tax, but before change in working capital, was at $102 million.

This quarter, we had no change in working capital, with the negative impact of our revenue growth offset by the tight management of the Sercel inventory, showing the first benefits of the transformation plan that we initiated in Sercel at the end of last year. Q1 2024 CapEx was $58 million, up 11% year-on-year. Industrial CapEx was $4 million down, back to a more normal level, while 2023 included $18 million related to the construction of the new HPC data center in UK. Research and development CapEx was $4 million, quasi stable, and our multi-client cash CapEx was $50 million, up $22 million versus last year, driven by our first node project in the GOM, in the Gulf of Mexico. Prefunding ratio remained very high at 116% this quarter.

After $2 million of other financial items, $12 million lease repayments, $3 million discounted operation, the net cash flow ended up for the quarter at $30 million. As a reminder, this $30 million net cash flow does not include the circa $30 million settlements from ONGC, the Indian multinational that Sophie referred to initially, that we received early May. Moving on to slide 15, on the group balance sheet. The group liquidity at the end of March amounted to $350 million, excluding $90 million of undrawn RCFs. Before IFRS 16, group gross debt was close to $1.2 billion, and group net debt was at $858 million. After IFRS 16, group gross debt was close to $1.3 billion, and net debt was $966 million.

Segment leverage ratio of net debt to segment EBITDA improved to 2.2x at the end of March 2024. I now hand the floor back to Sophie for the conclusion.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Thank you, Jérôme. As a summary, I'm very pleased with our first quarter performance. We continue to see gradual improvements in our core markets, albeit with continued volatility quarter to quarter, especially in SMO and EDA after-sales. Overall, we see a positive dynamic in our backlog and a higher level of client interactions, which increases our confidence in delivering our 2024 objectives. And in our new businesses, while they're still in the early stages of development, increasing market interest and early feedback from our new clients is building confidence in our unique value proposition, and our ability to develop meaningful businesses in the low carbon markets of CCUS and mineral mining, as well as outside of energy in the HPC and cloud solutions and infrastructure monitoring market. Thank you for your interest, and we're now ready to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one and one. We will now go to our first question. One moment, please. Your first question comes from the line of Daniel Thomson from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Daniel Thomson
Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Hi, good evening, thanks for taking my questions, and congrats to Christophe on the retirement. Firstly, Sophie, if I could just touch on the point around the IOC demand and that sort of coming back. And I think you said previously that that's kind of been the one missing ingredient in this upcycle for you know for the seismic companies. So I wondered, you know, when did you sort of first start seeing the demand from IOCs coming back? You know, how does it compare to previous years? And you know, is it one or two of them or all of them? And lastly, you know, when can we sort of start to see the benefits flowing you know to CGG?

And then the second question is just on the cash flow. You've left guidance unchanged, but obviously we've had a very good Q1, and then combined with the ONGC settlement, I was just sort of wondering on what your expectations are for the rest of the year in terms of cash flow and particularly working capital, as you've left that guidance unchanged. Thank you.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

... Yes, thank you, and good evening, Daniel. Thanks for the great question as usual. So the first to comment on the more sort of the macro environment, IOCs actually have never really left. They've always kept portfolios in frontier areas, but kind of some of them had put them more in a dormant mode and had made comments like they wouldn't go into new countries and things like that. So we're starting to see them this year break those paradigms. And so we're seeing some IOC who said, "We won't go into any new countries," starting to enter new countries. So I'd say really, this year marks a bit of a broader interest from pretty much across the board. So obviously, as you would know, the American IOCs were always, as of last year, already looking more broadly.

Initially, when you look at broadly, it doesn't cost you a lot of money because it is more acquiring sometimes, you know, just 3D seismic data or the data, looking, evaluating. So you can start doing those things a bit cheaply under the radar. And I think a lot of that happened last year, and this is becoming more visible. So I would still add a caveat to that, is that they still remain very disciplined, right? So you'll see them focusing on, say, Suriname, you'll see them focusing on Namibia, Egypt. But more and more, we're seeing, say, Malaysia emerge, we're seeing countries like Uruguay, which is a sort of a an equivalent to Namibia on the other side, starting to emerge. Brazil definitely saw the last bid round, good interest in the Pelotas area.

So I think last year, maybe undercover, more work was happening that was visible externally, but it is becoming more visible this year. And on the cash flow side, I will let Jérôme answer the question.

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Thank you, Daniel. So, honestly, it's a bit early to upgrade the cash guidance at this stage. To be fully transparent, we are actually contemplating a potential strategic but non-budgeted investment in our library. And the good news on ONGC could help partly fund this investment. So, again, a bit too early, and I think we'll provide more details in July for Q2 results.

Daniel Thomson
Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay, thanks. Understood. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one and one on your telephone keypad. We will now take the next question. Your next question comes from the line of Baptiste Lebacq from ODDO BHF. Please go ahead.

Baptiste Lebacq
Equity analyst, Oddo BHF

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. A special word for Christophe, when I started, he was already there, and I wish for him, let's say, a good new life. Question, let's say from my side, regarding you already answered or part of this question, but, regarding, let's say, the cash coming from the ONGC settlement, if I understand quite well, your answer, this cash will be used, as let's say, CapEx and not to reimburse, part of your debt. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. And second question, regarding your target in terms of petaflop, what is, let's say, your, the target that you have in mind for the end of the year, and for the next, three or four years?

Because we clearly see that there is an acceleration of appetite from AI and so on. What do you have in mind in terms of target of petaflop from your side? Thank you.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

So maybe I'll still thank you and good evening, Baptiste. I might take actually make a comment still on the cash side. I think really what you need to take away from our response is that it's a little early to really define exactly where we'll land. So we have a few moving parts, and we just want to be cautious at this point in time and not change the guidance. On the and Jérôme will connect later on. On the petaflops, this year, we're not going to do a huge increase. Last year, if you remember, we increased our petaflops by 50%, 50, from 350 to 500. And the reason we did that is that we invested into a new center.

We decided to upgrade and change a lot of the material that was and the computing that was in the old center into the new center. So that was a big step up. So therefore, this year, we don't expect that number of petaflops to increase significantly, still around the same number, maybe 5% increase to 530, somewhere along these lines. But I think that as of next year, we'll continue the ramp up, and we have defined a sort of a five-year roadmap, and you should see us definitely going into the 600 and 700 petaflops in the next few years. And it, it's a bit of a - there's always a balance in investing by what do we need for our computing?

We're looking, of course, at our CapEx and our profitability, so we're putting all these elements into the equation. And keep in mind as well, we work on our efficiency gains. We constantly work at optimizing our workflows so that we could do more with the same amount of petaflops. So all these things are happening in parallel, and every year we reevaluate what we need for the following year. But we did a big step up in 2023, and therefore, this year we don't need to do such a big step. So, Jérôme, did you want to add on the cash?

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Hello, Baptiste, not much further from what I said, I mean, obviously, if this investment does not materialize, the additional CapEx, sorry, the additional cash, will be used for paying down more debt, either through debt buybacks or at the time of the refinancing, as per the financial roadmap that we outlined in May. So, those options are on the table at the moment, and there's a bit of moving parts, so that's why we don't want to commit at this stage.

Baptiste Lebacq
Equity analyst, Oddo BHF

Thank you, Jérôme.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now go to the next question. Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Roger from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Kevin Roger
Senior Equity Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, good evening. Thanks for taking the time, and again, on my side, congrats to Christophe to all the work that you have done, those years at, CGG. It has been always very helpful, so thanks, for all the things that you have done, Christophe. If I may come back on the guidance and maybe on a more broadly, side in terms of top line, EBITDA, because basically you confirm the full guidance, but you have a Q1 that is probably better than expected. You just mentioned, Sophie, that the international oil companies are, in a way, coming back, coming back a bit. So why don't you increase the full guidance on top line and EBITDA if you have seen those, those moves recently on, on the industry?

The second question is also on the industry. Two of your direct peers, PGS and TGS, are now very close to doing their merger. Have you seen any change in the industry behavior, even on their side, on the client side, as we are moving close to their merger? Is there any change in the industry behavior? Yeah, thanks a lot.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Yeah. Thank you, Kevin, and good evening. So why not change the guidance? I think we're in Q1. It is a little early, and we, as you know, Geosciences has backlog, and we have decent visibility, so we're confident that Geosciences will continue that sort of gradual increase, through the year. We do have continued volatility both, in Earth Data and in SMO, because, in Earth Data, again, the sequencing of the after-sale is not linear, unfortunately. So we had a really, a good Q1. Maybe Q2 is not as good, but we still feel we are on our trajectory. And Sensing and Monitoring has that element, too, because it's made of recurring business, if you want, which is the sort of the spare parts for the install base.

But then you always have these sort of larger deals that could be in a quarter, not in the next quarter. So we do expect that quarterly volatility. So I wouldn't draw a straight line again, but okay, we're increasing 30%. We're not gonna increase 30% full year, right? So, yes, things fell, all fell in place. Many good things fell in place in Q1. But it is early to, to you know, to draw a line for the full year. We're still confident about the full year, and then I guess in Q2, it'll be a good time to, to refine that, that trajectory for the year. So that's the first question. On the PGS-TGS merger, we certainly see a change in behavior of TGS, which is a logical change.

As they've become asset heavy, the natural thing for them to do is to utilize the assets on their multi-client. So there's been a definite trend as of them acquiring Magseis to utilizing OBN, their own OBN acquisition on their projects. And we do expect to see the same happening once they embrace PGS, that they start wanting to use PGS vessels on their multi-client survey. So that's one change of TGS behaviors, which is totally fair and logical. The second change, we do see clients are a bit concerned because it creates a larger company, and as a result of that, some clients tend to favor, would tend to favor perhaps a CGG.

Which is, again, in a setting like that, where you've got two large companies merging, that clients get concerned and wanna make sure there's competition out there. So you'll see... I guess you'll see the procurement organization of the clients start trying to spread the work a little differently.

Kevin Roger
Senior Equity Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. Yeah, thanks a lot for that.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. There are currently no further questions. I will hand the call back to CGG.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Thank you very much. Thank you for attending.

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Uh, Daniel-

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Daniel has one more question. One more question.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go to the next question. Daniel? One moment, sorry. Daniel, your line is open.

Daniel Thomson
Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Hi. Sorry, thanks for letting me jump back in. I did have two further questions, if I could. Yeah, Sophie, I just wanted to give you the opportunity to maybe talk a bit about the two very recent announcements. Firstly, the CCS alliance with Baker Hughes. You know, any more color on what you're targeting there and sort of timelines and the firmness of that agreement? And then, of course, the launch of the AI cloud solution. Yeah, just how that sort of feeds into the beyond the core growth story....

And then secondly, just on the SMO optimization plan that was outlined the last quarter, has there sort of been a bit of progress there in, you know, delineating the sort of cost savings that we can expect? And would any of that sort of hit in 2024, or is that more a 2025+ story, you know, for the margins in SMO? Thank you.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Thank you, Daniel. So on the first question pertaining to our new businesses, so the Baker Hughes CGG announcement is very exciting. It actually has been driven by both companies seeing the value of, you know, one plus one being more than two. So we each have our strength, and the idea was to be able to provide a larger part of the workflow. So Baker Hughes, of course, as you know, is all in the subsurface. They actually have quite a number of elements around the surface transportation of CCUS, compressors and things like that. And we're, of course, sort of best in class when it comes to reservoir characterization, and so we believe the alliance of the two is very powerful.

So just to remind you what CGG is focusing on right now, we're focusing on that imaging characterization of the reservoirs, and we're focusing as well on the monitoring. So the modeling of the monitoring, how will you-- what will you need to put in place to monitor that reservoir in the long term? And so there's a lot of modeling associated to that. And then possibly installing the sensors and CGG sensors to be able to do that in the long run, which complements really nicely what Baker has. So our plan is to start targeting clients where we're very recognized and strong, the two of us, and see if we can, if we get take up for those combined offers.

So this early days, we're very excited by what this entails, and our game plan is to be very targeted with the number of clients where we feel we can make a difference. The launch of the AI cloud, it's just a step forward into our strategy to be able to provide outcome as a service in terms of cloud services. So we're trying to target a sort of a niche market, where we think it's a combination of need of super intense, high performance computing is required, but also where we can add value by helping the client optimize their workflow or optimize their algorithms. It's a bit of a combination of helping them optimize the outcome, and we've chosen a number of verticals, and one of them is the AI.

Not AI broadly, but the inference, and the inference is once you have a trained model, that you actually run instances of that trained model. So we believe that requires computing, and that we can make a difference there. So that's just that step forward. We have a few clients in the actually bio science, life science space and then in the AI space that we're pursuing. So that's for beyond the core. Now, going on to the sensing and monitoring optimization plan. As you would imagine, we're looking at pretty much everything, and some are gonna be quick wins and others are gonna take longer. So some of the quick wins is around inventory management. So just take one thing, which is safety stock.

Perhaps we were too cautious on the level of safety stock we were keeping or the level of inventory we were keeping, so we've visited that, so there will be immediate benefits that Jérôme commented already on Q1. But also there are things that are a bit longer, like some of the, you know, some of the costs that are in the structure that we're carefully identifying, and then perhaps those will take a little bit longer to realize. But certainly expect a chunk. And this has been sized, and I think we did commented on that last quarter. And we think part of it, say, call it half or part of it will be this year and the other half will be next year.

Jérôme, you want to comment on which number we gave last quarter? I think we-

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Yeah. We said between EUR 20 million and EUR 30 million benefit to the P&L, to the EBITDA. We could add another EUR 20 million on the cash by a tighter management of our working capital, and then maybe a bit of CapEx as well that we can play with. It's the full benefit, I mean, I would say in 25 or 50 million that we believe we can achieve for the sales transformation.

Daniel Thomson
Research Analyst, BNP Paribas

Perfect. Thanks for the color, and good evening.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are currently no further questions. I will hand the call back.

Sophie Zurquiyah
CEO, CGG

Yes, thank you very much. Thank you for the great questions, and thank you for attending, and I look forward to future interactions in the coming weeks. Good evening, everyone.

Jérôme Servant
CFO, CGG

Good evening, everybody.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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