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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 27, 2023

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to X-FAB quarterly conference call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, April 27th, 2023. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Rudi De Winter, CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Thank you. Good evening and good morning, everyone. In the conference call room today, we have Alba Morganti, CFO, and myself, Rudi De Winter. First quarter results recorded a record revenues of $208 million within the guidance and up 16% year-on-year and 13% up quarter-on-quarter. The revenues were limited by production capacities while we are building up more capacity. X-FAB's core markets, automotive, industrial, medical, accounted for $185 million, up 28% year-on-year, further increasing the share of total revenues of core markets to 89%. This is also a new quarterly record. Demand remained strong throughout the quarter, with order intake amounting to $127 million and a book-to-bill of about 1.1.

The backlog at the end of the quarter came in at $208 million. X-FAB automotive business continued to grow strongly, reaching a record of $121 million in the first quarter, up 35% year-on-year. In the first quarter, the share of automotive revenues went up to 58% of total revenue. The growth of X-FAB automotive business continues to be driven by the French site ongoing capacity conversion to automotive technologies. 89% of the French output was in the first quarter based on automotive and X-FAB technologies. With the phase out of the legacy business in France, we reached an important milestone. Now the site will be growing its revenue and profits quarter after quarter with automotive business.

Industrial revenue for the first quarter was $47 million, up 13% year-on-year, and the electrification trend is also driving growth in X-FAB industrial business with an increased portion of silicon carbide. The X-FAB silicon carbide revenues in the first quarter were $13 million, up 9% year-on-year. An increasing share of customers sourced their own silicon carbide wafers, contributing to a lower total billing. However, this had no impact on the total value add provided by X-FAB to its customers, which resulted in a higher profitability margin for this business. In the first quarter, customers provided the substrates for about 70% of all silicon carbide wafers produced. While X-FAB total quantity of silicon carbide wafers delivered in the first quarter was up 56% compared to a year before. We are progressing well with signing up further LTA contracts for silicon carbide.

We signed up now 3 LTA contracts, and we have further four in negotiations. First quarter medical revenues came in at about $18 million, up 28% year-over-year. Strong medical growth during this period was primarily driven by increased production volumes of lab-on-a-chip devices for DNA sequencing. Lab-on-a-chip applications are one of the key technologies driving advances in medical and are expected to remain a major growth driver for X-FAB's medical business going forward. In the first quarter, CCC, Consumer Communication and Computer, markets revenue were $22.5 million, down 31% year-over-year. The first quarter still included a small amount of legacy CCC business produced at X-FAB France. Which has now been further reduced to virtually zero, and we are in the phase of converting and qualifying the corresponding equipments to automotive technologies.

The X-FAB's total CCC business is now expected to stay around this level. In the first quarter, prototyping revenues came in at EUR 26 million, up 7% year-on-year and 12% up quarter-on-quarter. This, by the way, is a good indicator for future business. Let's move to the operations update. Given the continued strong demand, all fabs operated at high capacity throughout the first quarter, focusing on smooth execution, productivity improvements and most important, the implementation of capacity expansion projects. Equipment engineering teams at all sites have progressed well with the installation and qualification of new equipments, which is in full swing now. Long lead time of equipment and delayed equipment deliveries set the pace for the growth. We are in close contact with our equipment suppliers to minimize the delays and accelerate, where possible, the installation and qualification of equipments.

In the first quarter, CapEx came in at about $49 million, with total CapEx expected to reach about $350 million in 2023. The first quarter CapEx were rather on the low side. We plan an increase in CapEx in the second half of the year in line with equipment deliveries, primarily related to the capacity conversion of X-FAB France to the more automotive technologies, the expansion of the silicon carbide in X-FAB Texas, and the building expansion in Malaysia. The construction of the clean room expansion in Malaysia is progressing well, and towards the end of 2024, we will be moving in equipment as planned. I would like to pass the word to Alba.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Thanks, Rudi. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Now let's walk over the financial update. Let me start this section by highlighting that in the first quarter, as Rudi already mentioned, we had some all-time high record numbers. We registered an EBITDA of EUR 58 million with an EBITDA margin of almost 28%, which was well above the guided range of 22%-26%. This good performance was mainly driven by volume growth, but also by the economies of scale resulting from the higher old utilization of the fabs, which obviously positively impacted our profitability. On top, the price increases which we introduced in 2022 has taken effect, contributing to our top line growth, bringing higher margins. In the first quarter, deferred tax assets were increased, resulting in a tax benefit of almost EUR 10 million.

In light of the improved profitability, also of the stable ongoing performance of the underlying entities, last but not least, of the positive outlook supported by the long-term agreements concluded with some of our key customers, we are currently reviewing the valuation horizon for our deferred tax assets to be more in line with the better expected visibility of the business. Our natural hedging strategy continues to keep our profitability independent and unaffected by the fluctuation of the U.S. dollar/euro exchange rate. It's clearly visible in the EBITDA results because at a constant U.S. dollar/euro exchange rate of 1.12, as experienced in the previous year quarter, EBITDA margin would have been 0.1 percentage points higher. Now let's walk over our cash and cash equivalents. At the end of the first quarter amounted to EUR 350.3 million.

It's down by 5.2% compared to the previous quarter end. Despite this small decrease, which is explained by the scheduled reimbursement of some financial loans, our cash position remains solid and strong and enables us to sustain our growth. The cash flow generated from operating activities was $57.3 million. To conclude this financial section, I would like to share our guidance for next quarter. Revenue is expected to be in the range of $205 million-$220 million with an EBITDA margin in the range of 23%-27%. The aforementioned guidance is based on an average exchange rate of 1.09 U.S. dollar/euro.

For avoidance of doubt, we reiterate that our full year 2023 guidance remains unchanged, with revenues which are expected to come in at a range of $880 million-$960 million, with an EBITDA margin in the range of 23%-27%. In light of the good results of the first quarter, it's more likely that we will be in the higher range of the guidance for the full year. Now I would like to give the word back to Rudi.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Thank you. To summarize, the first quarter was marked by record revenue and record profits. The results clearly show how we are different from other foundries who see their revenues dropping significantly while we see a strong growth. I'm very pleased to see the key elements of X-FAB's success coming to fruition. We offer a broad range of technology, specialty technologies that are needed to address the major challenges of our time, and we continue to see strong demand from our customers. With X-FAB capacity expansion projects well underway, we're able to increase capacity at our existing site, setting the stage for strong growth over the next three years. Last but not least, increased volumes and improved product mix with higher value add products and the ongoing turnaround of our French site continue to contribute to higher profitability.

I am confident in X-FAB long-term success, and we are fully focused on excellent execution in all parts of our business. I would like to open for questions, Laura.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone. Again, that's star followed by one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your request, please press star followed by two. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Michael Roeg from Degroof Petercam. Please go ahead. Your line is now live.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Yes, good evening. I have a couple of questions. The first one is for Alba. You just mentioned that given a good start of the year, you expect there's a chance to get towards the high end of the guidance range this year.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yes.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Refer to the sales, to the margin target or both?

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Margin.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

The margin. Yes. Okay. That's what I assumed. Talking about that margin, Q1 was very strong, record gross margin, very strong EBITDA margin. For Q2, you guide for sales to be slightly higher even at the midpoint, and the CCC will not change much within the mix. I was wondering why then the guidance on the gross margin or on the EBITDA margin suggest a sequential decline.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

What happened in Q1 that will...

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No, no. In Q1-

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Yeah.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

We, yeah. Okay. Compared to the guidance. Yes. You're right.

Yes.

Yes. Well, we, you know, we have quite a conservative view, and we just want to stay on the safe side.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. Was there anything special in Q1, maybe an inventory impact or something that will not recur in Q2 for you to be so conservative?

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No. No.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, it's nothing major. There was an equipment sale.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

That was like $1 million. Sometimes like equipment that we don't need anymore because of the conversion to newer technologies, we sometimes also sell equipment, but that was only in there for $1 million.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. It's basically a conservative approach for the margin guidance for Q2 then.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Right. Right.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. couple of questions on silicon carbide. Do you expect your customers to continue to bring their own wafers just like in Q1?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, this is, we don't mind. It's on the one end it is also. We don't want to have a too complicated zoo of wafers because that creates also on the operational side, complexities. On the other end, it's still not easy to buy enough sub-substrates on the market today. We are, we're managing, but we welcome if customers can also help sourcing. We think that the 70% of where we were right now is on the high end. We think it's maybe rather decrease to something in the, yeah, below 50 in the long term.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. If they continue to do this, let's say at 60% or a bit less, It means your inventory levels will be lower compared to a situation in which nobody would bring their own wafers. Correct?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

If we source the wafers, we have them in our operational working progress cost, so we need to finance them. Is that what you are referring?

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. Yeah. Yes, indeed. Bringing their own wafers is positive for inventory, but operationally, you know, it may be a bit more complex as.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

As you have to make sure that they are on board. If they bring in the gross profit for wafers for you is similar to-

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah. The value add

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Right.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

We are charging for the value add that we put on the wafers, not so much for the wafers. There's a, of course, a markup because sometimes wafers get lost in production. That is taken care of by a slightly higher markup on the wafers that we source. There is bottom line not much margin at all on it.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Then only a couple of more questions on the prepayments before I leave others to ask some questions. One of your biggest client announced yesterday that they will send you about EUR 190 million in prepayments.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yes.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Other customers that will do that.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Correct.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Could you give a crude indication of how much you expect to receive in total?

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah. It's in the range of EUR 300 million, maybe slightly above.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

EUR 300 million plus. Is this a one-time only exercise that will go from EUR 300 to EUR 0 over time? Once it goes down over time, your customers will send you new prepayments?

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No, it's-

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, yeah. There are different contracts. Mainly we differentiate between CMOS and the silicon carbide. Let's say, on the silicon carbide, where we have still more investments that we expect over a longer period, that we may be keeping the money longer than for the CMOS type of customers. On average, the payback is after the three-year period.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay. it will end for your CMOS customers. There will be no new prepayments after that.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, that will depend on how business go. If customers come back and say, "Well, we want in 27 and 26, 27 onwards, further significant increases, and that require additional CapEx that is not yet initiated, then I would not exclude to ask for further prepayments.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Okay, that's clear. Then do you have to pay your customers an interest fee on the prepayments?

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Oh.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

That's pleasant. Good.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well-

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

That's it.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

it's the same. It, it's the usage normally.

Michael Roeg
Senior Sell-Side Analyst, Degroof Petercam

Yeah, yeah, no. Okay. It's very appealing financing. Good. Thank you.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

You're welcome.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David O'Connor from BNP Paribas. Your line is now live. Please go ahead.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Great. Good afternoon, Linda. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe, Rudi, one or two from my side. Maybe firstly on pricing. Can you talk about what you're seeing from a pricing perspective as you look through the kinda second half of this year across automotive and industrial? Is there within those LTA contracts that you have, is there some price erosion in there for customers?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No, there is no price erosion.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Basically the LTAs are a flat price, yeah. Which the With a clause that would allow price adjustment if based on index evolution. Yeah. The pricing as such is flat.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

There is also an energy clause in the LT in case of increased costs.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Automotive and industrial.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, the yes. It's for all LTA contracts, yeah.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Mm-hmm.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Since online from China, status and the progress that's on winning potentially.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, on China, the demand is very much correlated with the end markets in the end. Chinese applications for automotive, they're strong. Consumer mobile applications, they are weak, just like in other regions. We're, yeah, now predominantly addressing automotive, industrial, medical. We also see from China further strong demand for the our automotive, industrial end market products. We continue also to see good demand for silicon carbide from China. Yeah. On a silicon carbide, our main products we're doing are all MOSFETs. We're doing about 90% of the production that we're doing is for MOSFETs.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Understood. Is that silicon carbide demand from China, is that automotive or industrial related?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

It's hard to tell because you do not see the difference on the products whether that's an automotive product or in some cases you can, but in many cases, so it's hard for us to track. We have recorded most of like 90% of our industrial or our silicon carbide business as industrial. It's I'm not sure this is totally accurate. It is very difficult to see the difference from our end, and we do not. We'll share it, or they could sell the same products in as well automotive as industrial applications.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Understood. That's helpful. Maybe last question from my side. Can you remind us what the current revenue and EBITDA margin is at X-FAB France and the target for where we're going to exit this year? I think I missed it at the start of the call. Thank you.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, we do not disclose the specific use or margins per production site. We are just in the transition, so we stopped producing the older technologies. We're now in fully ramping up the automotive technologies. We are still on a low level, but it's all automotive business. From now on, over the next three years, the goal is to triple or more the revenue from the site in France.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Understood. Are we at a cash break-even level in X-FAB France at the moment?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

No, in particularly considering all the investments, definitely not.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Over the next three years, can that get to a kind of corporate average?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yes. That's the where we're heading for. Yeah.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Mm-hmm.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah. In three-

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

In three years we will be there.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Understood. Very helpful. Thank you.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

David, maybe you might have seen in the press release that the X-FAB France first quarter revenues, 89% of them were based on X-FAB technologies. This is the big, well, that shows you the improvement of the ramp up in France.

David O'Connor
Senior Equity Analyst, BNP Paribas Exane

Okay. Thank you, Alba.

Alba Morganti
CFO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Robert Sanders from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is now live.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. Good evening. Hi, everyone. I just have the first question would be, you know, just thinking through the implications of what SMIC is doing, which is they seem to be traveling down on the lagging edge as per ASML's conference call. I was just wondering, you know, how much of your customer base would be willing to move to SMIC were they to be willing to offer, you know, fantastic pricing, or is it just a very small fraction? I have a follow-up.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, I don't know what where they're heading, but what I can tell you that we as X-FAB, we are a specialty foundry, and we have all specialty technologies that takes years to develop and also takes, yeah, several years for customers to design products on. I don't see there any threat or change in the, in the next many years. I think they might be going that way. They might be affecting business from other foundries, but I don't see this as a threat to X-FAB.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Then on the... Just following up on the pricing question from before. I was under the impression that from 2021 to 2024 you were seeing a kind of roughly 30% uplift in pricing, but most of that was hitting in the quarter you just reported. Is there still a residual impact from LTAs in 2024 just from rolling into the P&L, or is it kind of that we're on a new run rate and that's not gonna be such a big tailwind in 2024?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah. There is, yeah, different portions of the business. There is still a little bit of hangover from deliveries from 2022 and 2023. There's maybe. The majority of the business in the Q1 was on the new pricing.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Got it. The agreed long-term pricing is basically flat for at the current level. Similar to what Melexis was saying?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Yeah.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Okay. On silicon carbide, can you just talk a bit about, you were talking about the substrate prices and still being tight, but I think you've talked about Chinese substrate players being quite competitive now, companies like Sanan. What is the difference in pricing? Is it something like $500 from China, $800 from Western vendors? Is that how you should... Do you have flexibility to increase your mix of Chinese, or is it really up to the customer?

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Well, we have the flexibility. Of course, we need to qualify the substrates. Today, we are looking at those options, but we are we're not in production with substrates from China, but we're Discussing and testing. It is too early to tell about specific pricing that we see there.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Okay. The last question would just be on, you know, potential expansion plans in France, in Corbeil. What is the status today and when could you give an update and what kind of money could you be looking at? That would be great to get an update. Thanks.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

The expansion in Corbeil is predominantly a conversion of the mobile RF SOI technologies into automotive high-voltage technologies, where we are adding capacity and debottlenecking the production line. As previously explained, we the legacy technologies are now out of the revenue. All the revenue that is there is now automotive and on X-FAB technologies. Over the next from now to the next let's say end 2025, we should the plan is to triple the revenue and the output of that factory.

That consists of equipment that were running RF SOI technologies before, that we are converting and qualifying on the automotive technologies, and we are adding more equipment for automotive additional equipment that wasn't there before.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Anything from the chip side? Is anything in, you know, could we...

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

I cannot-

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Yeah.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

I cannot comment on that. Well, we are, yeah, discussing options, but that's too early to report anything on.

Robert Sanders
Head of Tech Hardware Research, Deutsche Bank

Got it. Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Rudi De Winter for any closing remarks.

Rudi De Winter
CEO, X-FAB Silicon Foundries

Thank you, Laura. Thanks everyone for attending today. Maybe we will meet on the Capital Markets Day. I would like to point out that we're having on 7th of June in Paris. Otherwise, maybe hear you again on the 27th of July for the second quarter result. Thank you very much and have a nice evening.

Operator

Thank you. Goodbye. Thank you, presenters. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a lovely day.

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