Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Baibars' conference call on the
results of the Q1 2020. Today, we are in a smaller group as the Q1 of ours is not the most important one. So next to me is Mr. Heber, our CFO also Mr. Kem Netzer, our Head of Corporate Accounting and Mr.
Wahl from the Investor Relations team. As usual, we have sent out all information this morning. Otherwise, you can download it, as you know, from our website, Investor Relations website. And I will hand over now to Mr. Heber.
Yes. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, also from my side here from Munich's Baivartawa on this very bright day in May, presenting the Q1 to 2020 to you. We just met virtually a couple of weeks ago, so there's not a lot of news to tell, but we are, of course, running through the numbers in a minute. But before we do so, let me just I think the most important one for you also is with an opening statement on the COVID-nineteen situation within Baiva and what we all have seen throughout the last couple of weeks since we met in the end of March. So corona is dominating everything and also Baibars business.
And to make a very clear statement right in the beginning. This situation that we are running through altogether shows how important Fybaud's business is and that we are in a kind of essential position in the industries that we are talking about. Looking at other industries and the struggle they are in, the BIVAS business is running very stable through the corona situation, through the corona crisis. And that shows us if it comes to basic needs, then strength of the business model as ones of companies as a fiber comes in front. And we also very changing demands in the last couple of days weeks.
Demands are changing. It's a bit funny what we saw in France. They're asking for red wine. The people in the Netherlands are asking for other things. And in Germany, they're asking for toilet paper.
But it shows it all comes to basic needs. And this is when it comes to Baibar. Baibar stands for eat, for heat and for living. And all other industries might be more glamorous than Viva. But when
it comes
to crisis, then the strength of our business model comes through. I think this is quite important as an opening statement also to which is still valid that the Q1 numbers, as Jasko just pointed out, are less important of or let's not have not that big meaning, as you all know, for the ongoing quarters to come. But it gives you an indication and more important for you is definitely the outlook on the business as the business are running through the upcoming quarters. Nevertheless, I would start with a presentation, which has been sent out to you and just give you an overview of the development on Page 4, which is a summary for the 1st 3 months in 2020. You see the overall sales down by 5%.
That's mainly driven price induced by the energy sector mainly and the international bust trading activities, which has been reduced for some reasons that I'll come back to later. And if you look on the EBIT, the EBIT shows a minus 27% compared to a minus 14% the previous period. But please remind you on the starting quarter in 2018, where we start with a minus 41,000,000. The main effect that we saw in 2020 compared to 2019 is that in 2019, we had in the Q1 the sale of the Biomasson portfolio in the RE, which came in with an onetime effect of roughly EUR 8,000,000 overall. And then we have some effects that will I will point it out later when it comes to the other activities in the cost sector, which will be mainly postponing or adverse effect in the upcoming quarters.
So this is just a flashlight that's and we pointed out the other activity segment. Overall, if we reduce or take out and look and take out these two effects from the bioenergy or the renewable energy portfolio as well as the other activities, then it shows that our traditional business are running pretty good. They are already in a positive area with the 2.8% overall contribution positive and that shows the main activity of digital business within the first quarter. We also continue to do so over the Q1, it shows the volatility that we have seen within the starting quarters. But traditionally, and this is what I want to remind you, traditionally, the Q1 is always a minus quarter.
It always starts with a minus. It depends on the most on the renewable energy section, if they have sold projects already in the Q1 or if not today's or this year's plan is, it was in 2018, that most of the projects will be sold later in the year, Q3 again and Q4. But and just to highlight this right in the beginning, we stick to the commitment that all the projects that we are planning to sell in 2020 from today's perspective might also be realized despite the corona situation might be realized in the financial year 2020. So having a look on the starting quarter again in comparison to the other quarters, they have better ones, but it's mostly in line. And as I pointed out, 2 effects, 2 main effects, the renewable energy, biomethane portfolio and some cost issues on the other activities has driven this result in the Q1.
Let's start into the and we just, as I said a couple of weeks ago, met at the end of March. So I don't want to be redundant, but just start with a look on the in the individual section. Let's start with the energy one on Page 7. The market development, the market conditions on the for the renewable energy business also due to the COVID-nineteen situation are still strong. Demand for investments, long term investments, renewable energy investments are completely unchanged, one can say.
We saw a stronger demand also for the solar trading in the solar trading business for modules as it came to partly shutdown of the Chinese module production, which is back in place already again. But there was a situation when price moved up and demand was there, and we were able to supply, able to deliver. So that gave a positive uplift for the soda trade business in the end of March and also throughout April, be reminded that the COVID-nineteen situation really for the Q1 had an impact of at least 2 weeks. So the main impact that we will see came through only in April, but it hasn't changed the overall situation on the renewable energy market. All our projects, buildings, project developments are ongoing as planned.
We do not have seen stronger delays. It might be a delay of a week or 2 due to some situations in Spain or permit that we need to get. And this which has been delayed a little bit, but it's not overall a delay in the project. All the construction areas are working as scheduled. So from that situation, we have a green light on the Renewable Energy division.
What we saw on the conventional energy, that was a price decline, a very sharp price decline on the oil sector. You all realize that. And that, of course, had an impact also on our business, mostly on the demand of our customers. And we might struggle about what was the COVID-nineteen impact was, was the price impact on the oil market, but that has driven strongly demand. We see when it comes to the number, very strongly driven demand in the Q1.
And this is continuing, this is ongoing through the month of April. A very strong April will follow. And also for the Q2, what we see is high demand in our books until the end of June. And this is quite unusual situation as we have seen mostly in the year that we have a demand a stronger demand through the winter months, which comes down after Easter when normally we say at Baibars Easter starts business in agri and the building materials sector, but it's lower than in the conventional energy sector, will start again then after the holiday season, the vacation season late in August. And this is probably partly offset this year maybe by the pricing situation or the COVID-nineteen.
We believe that in the beginning, we saw some, as you say in Germany, hamsterkoye. So in the beginning also on the oil sector, we don't know if it's really true, but I think also the price situation gave stimulus to the demand and the customers' demand for conventional energy for heating oil. Lucky enough, we were that we were not anymore that much engaged on the fuel station sector. You remind I remind you that we sold the TESOL activities, I think this sector is stronger impacted by reduced the mobility activities overall in the country. So this is not longer in our portfolio, and this is also important to reflect if when we are looking on the individual numbers, which we are going to do now, starting with the renewable energy thing on Page 8.
You see the main revenue, which is also only related mainly only related to the solar trading business, only 3 smaller portfolios in the Netherlands with a total volume of 27 megawatts has been sold so far in the Q1 with only a very low EBIT contribution compared to last year. When additionally, we had this biomethane thing this biomethane sale that I mentioned before. So this is only a very review starting into the financial year 2020, brings it to an EBIT of minus 9 compared to a +1.2 last year. And this is where the main impact one of the main impacts of the reduced result overall in the group. But once again, as I said, and I'm going to give you also the outlooks always that we're talking on the current business directly.
This is what we will catch up throughout the year, sticking to our plans, sticking to our commitment that we gave to the market here on the renewable energy sector. When it comes to the conventional energy on Page 9, sales down by some 19%, 80%, 90%, and this is reflecting the Tesol sale on one hand and the pricing situation on the other hand. It's the price and volume induced decline in revenues as it says here. And the overall results down by 14% from 5.7% to 4.9%. Percent.
But last year, there were roughly €2,000,000 contributed EBIT contribution included from Tesol from the fuel station activities, which are missing here. And if you review that in last year's numbers, you see that we have a very strong starting quarter here on the traditional, on the conventional energy business in Q1. And this is driven by the German business, but also by a very good development in Austria. Coming to agriculture and just starting with the market development, the market trends that we have seen, mostly unchanged to what we reported about in late March. What one can say on the starting season, we are 2 weeks overall behind from a vacational situation due to the very wet February that we saw.
Funny enough, everybody is talking about the dryness or was talking about the dryness throughout April. And that have by the way, changed in between. But just to remind you that February compared to last year's starting season was very wet. So that kept the farmers from the field and now back on it. But as we always see it from time to time, there is a delay in the agriculture process all around of 2 weeks.
So the starting situation in Norway was pretty good in our areas from the weather conditions that we saw. The April was a bit too dry, but the rain that we saw over the last couple of days a week ago and throughout the starting of May, was very, very important for our farming sector, in particular for the second treatment of fertilizer, which is now being brought to the fields. So I would say everything is in line there. We saw a very good situation also in our in Austria and in CEE. So that contributed pretty much into the Q1 result.
But once again, please, this is just a flashlight at the end of March. We normally say that the season only starts in March, and we have traditionally 2 cornerstones, 2 milestones to get over. This is the end of May when the spring season is finished on the agrissector. And then by the end of October, when the harvest comes in or the harvest is in, then we can clearly say how the agri season was. But for the time being, everything looks pretty good, looks pretty in line.
Looking on the result numbers, and we do it by division to division or subdivision, subdivision starting with international trading, the bus activities on Page 13. Do you see a sharp decline in sales by some €400,000,000 This is mainly related to scheduled reductions in activities that we made. We closed our Iran activities. We reported that in our annual analyst conference in March. So the international activities on the Iran business.
Also in Hungary, we closed our activities. And of course, we saw a very reduced or a complete shutdown, you might say, on the Italian business. You know that we have within the bus organization 3 main hubs. The main hub, of course, in Rotterdam with the main part of the business, but also in Spain and Italy, 2 important hubs for the Southern European business. So on top of the reduction with the international Iran activities and the Hungarian activities, there was a shutdown on the Italian business, which accounted for a loss in this result situation of about €1,500,000 which is included in this SEK3.7 million that we saw.
So on these other businesses here, they're running pretty good. The start was pretty encouraging, even if it's what comes along with reduced volumes due to structural reduction that we made on the business. Besides the traditional trading activities, we also have the specialty business, and they're also running pretty good through the Q1. And I think this is a very good and encouraging solid start for the rest of the year. Looking on the 3 more traditional parts within the agri sector, the Global Produce business, the input and the agricultural equipment.
I think that one can say that within the global produce, this is one of the winner of the situation, of the current situation. They are benefiting from higher demand, in particular on food and table fruit and also from the international side. People are demanding for more fruit products. Apples, for example, we saw very strong demand on apples from the Lake Constance area throughout the month of March, also ongoing in April. As I said, this is also one thing which is continuing now in the second quarter.
In New Zealand, the harvest is almost in now. We saw a better harvest than it was in the previous years. The fruit is price wise and volume wise pretty promising. The harvest is all in. And we also think that the logistics situation delivering this fruit out from the New Zealand half into Asia and into Europe is under control.
We are prepared, and we were prepared. It's not a problem to have enough containers to ship the products now out of New Zealand. We just had a call yesterday with people in New Zealand. The situation down there is as comparable, you might say, to the German situation, only a very few impacts on the overall situation. They are going from level 3 or they're preparing to going to level from level 3 expect that business is pretty much coming back over the expect that business is pretty much coming back over the upcoming week.
Also, the international TFC activities have been running pretty good through the Q1. More important for them is business or was the Easter business in April, and that will almost impact and effecting the 2nd quarter result. On the Resources business, the market continued on the Resources business. It was weaker demand on fertilizer overall that has to do with the regulation that we already reported on. And for seasonal delay factors that I mentioned before, the fertilizer prices were low against the previous year, but it's almost the in line from what we have seen.
And the seat business have been pretty strong. The demand on that kind is good from the input resources. What we saw on the and that's surprisingly enough on the agricultural equipment, even the economic barometer was on level with December numbers, the farmers and the willingness of the farmers to invest is pretty high was pretty high and there was also the order backlog, which we went into 2020, was very high. Maybe it has been impacted also by the Apotecnica fare that we saw late last year. But that was funny enough if you think on the current situation.
I always say that farmers might be something anticyclic when it comes to investment decisions, but the investment the farmers made was a very stronger and this is also still ongoing now in the Q2. Looking on the numbers, Page 15, starting with the Global Proteus. You see what I mentioned, the impact on the result line, very positive after a negative Q1 in 2019. Now already for the Q1, a small profit and very positive outlook for the rest of the year. We stick to the commitment that we made for the overall result of the Global Produce division.
The Agricultural segment, the Traditional business, the normal ones, in line with last year's on Page 16, an EBIT contribution of some SEK 3,000,000 already positive in the first quarter, which is pretty good. Slightly higher sales on the sector, but it's mostly price infused. I think it's once again, it only becomes valid after Easter and by the end of May to see what the spring season or the initial season on the agri sector was worth, but it's a pretty good start here in the first 3 months for the Agro segment. And then on Page 17, you see the contribution of the agricultural equipment year on year, and that's very encouraging also for the rest of the year. I think we will see another strong year on the Techno on the Agricultural Equipment division.
If it goes to Building Materials, also the start here, situation is unchanged. The, I would say, the overall demand haven't changed to what we reported end of March. We are we're not affected at all by the COVID-nineteen situation. All our stores, our wholesale stores have been opened throughout the days. Remind you that in Germany or in Bavaria and Van Wittenberg, we do not run retail stores anymore.
They are with Helwig. But of course, in Austria, there were a couple of stores of retail activities still with the Tyrolean area for Alderg and Kernten. They have been closed down, but the impact of that was very limited in March. And all our other stores here in Germany has been opened through the whole COVID-nineteen period. So the demand is unchanged, and I think that will also continue.
We have not seen any other risks coming from the payment side, from our customers. So this all in line. It's all pretty good running, as I can say, as of today. The overall result situation, a pretty good start into the season. You know that the Building Materials business normally starts after EAS, as we always say, and we have a slight improvement of some EUR 4,000,000 overall, including some effects from the Austrian business here already in.
So the German business was pretty much stronger compared to the previous year. And as I said, this is very encouraging also for the rest of the year and for the Q2. Q2 and Q3 are the main important quarters on the Building Materials sections. And we are pretty confident that we can continue with the positive situation that we have seen in the 1st starting quarter. Yes, the just jump to Page 23.
It shows the innovation and digitalization, nothing to report in there. It's running as planned. On the other activities, I think it's worth to have a word on that. To see the EBIT number here from 9% to 18% minus. And this is we have to be very clear on this.
There are 4 main effects on this situation. The most of these effects will be adverse and will be turned again in the Q2 or the rest of the year. The first one that we saw in there that was an effect from valuation of an hedge instrument on the Australian dollar, which is it has been accounting accounted for minus €3,000,000 And there will be an adverse effect in the second quarter. So that's just a temporary thing that we have in here by the end of March. What is missing in here are now compared year on year is a €2,000,000 contribution of our activities at Equity Austria Juice that have not been in yet in the Q1.
We expect a contribution of some €3,000,000 overall on this Austria's use activities for the full year. So also this effect will turn again. Last year, we have seen stronger sales of real estate from our real estate portfolio contribution of EUR 2,000,000 already in the Q1, which is have not been in now, but which will also come later in the year. So also this is something that will turn again. And finally, there's the last year's accounted for the IFRS 16 effect, which was accounted for under the other activities in the Q1.
And later in the year, it was given to the own division that was because of systematical reasons. It has been accounted here that will also turn will be turned back in comparison year on year in later quarters. So the overall situation for the other activities, what I expect is coming from the 53 that we had last year saying there were onetime effects from the Emerald project and things in. I again stick to the estimation that it should be in a range of €35,000,000 to €40,000,000 overall, and that will also be backed from today's perspective by some cost cutting effects that we will see in the admin sector as we will have a cost reduction as other companies will have due to a lot of COVID-nineteen related effects. Imagine that we do not have the Octoberfest this year, so we do not have the FLF Fair this year.
We do not have a general assembly this year. So these are all things that will come with cost reductions in the other activities. So that should support the estimation that something in between €35,000,000 to €40,000,000 will be the full year number, even if it's overstated or seems to be overstated for the 1st 3 months. Looking on the overall group financials on Page 26, it summarizes what we reported up to EBIT. When it comes to the consolidated net income, you see that we are more or less online with last year's numbers.
This is reflected by deferred tax asset that we made up for or were able to made up for the Q1 since the minor situation that we saw with churn in most of these activities and it's mainly related to the Renewable Energy business that will turn later in the year. And therefore, we were able to accrue forward to make a deferred tax asset against it. That brought it up to the consolidated net income in line with last year's number. The earnings per share now reported year on year, including the hybrid contribution in as cost and the lower line that we disclosed here. From the group financials, on the balance sheet, not a lot of to say, it's more seasonal picture on it.
The thing is that we started in the season that goes along with upward on the total assets, on mostly on the inventory, mainly also driven from the renewable energy project sector, but that comes not along with a higher debt position. That means we are currently and this is strongly ongoing through the March of April, May June, day by day, reducing the debt position strongly by also reducing the commodities that we have in the agriculture sector, the technical equipment sector and postponing slightly postponing effect on the renewable energy sector, this drives the overall picture for the balance sheet by the end of March. Now I think coming to the operational outlook, it's the same thing that we presented in March, and I think this is still very valid. I mentioned it when running through the individual segments. What is the overall expectation on the Renewable Energy sector?
I mentioned it. From today's perspective, we do not have or do not expect higher impacts on the business. All the projects are running from today's perspective. We also expect all the projects being realized in 2020. There might, of course, be postponing effects from 2020 2021, but it's not that we are not realizing projects.
It might at least only be postponing. But from a quantitative perspective, we think it might be able to realize all projects as planned. And what we indicated also from the result line is that the plan that we have is in the range of last year's results. Last year for 2019, the overall result for the Renewable Energy Care sector was EUR 100,000,000 EBIT contribution with a planned EBIT contribution of only EUR 78,000,000 in the beginning of the year. So the plan for this year is to be in line with last year's overall contribution, meaning €100,000,000 again.
It could be more or it could be a bit less, I don't know, but around this figure, I think it's fair enough to look after. On the conventional energy, as I said, a very strong ongoing business now through the Q2. I think that will also continue throughout the year. We had last year full year EBIT contribution of some €20,000,000 which includes €10,000,000 EBIT contribution from the TESOL activities. These are not in any longer, as you might know.
But that might give you a flavor of what we expect year on year if it comes to a normalized result for the conventional energy in total. The agriculture outlook, as I mentioned also before, strong in the Extraction Equipment, strong on the Global Proteus, solid, I would say, on the classical, on the traditional agriculture business here in our areas in the domestic markets. What we expect, what we might see is a slightly lower business, but even above last year's contribution in our international trading activities on the bust areas through the reduced demand in some parts of the world or the situation that we see in Southern Europe and Italy. But I think it's pretty much too early really to say where the outcome will be on the international activities. From our business review that we held on Monday, we learned that they are pretty much on track to exceed slightly last year's result, which was in the range of €19,000,000 So this is also my expectation that we will be in that area or maybe slightly above.
The main contribution or the main impact out of these areas should be in the traditional business, where we only made the contribution last year of EUR 7,000,000 for the whole financial year, I think this is the highest uplift to come back to some more normalized areas in the range of €20,000,000 €25,000,000 overall global projects. We will see what the harvesting or the marketing of the harvest for the international activities from New Zealand will bring. There will be a very strong demand from Asia and also from Europe since they can really good sell the fruit into these two markets, and we'll see how they can handle the logistic situation. But at least also they will have an uplift year on year on this business. Technical Equipment overall will be stable.
If they can reach at least last year's really good performance, I don't know, but it's all good on getting into this situation. Billing Materials, finally, yes, we do not expect any sharp declines immediately or within the short term distance. They will have a stable business. This is indicated or forecasted for the rest of the year, and this indicates also by the performance within Q1. It continues to be strong.
We have to carefully look on the customer risk in there, If they will reduce demand or if we have payment risk in there, we do not see it currently, but I think they will more or less be stable, and they have been in the latest years on contribution level of above 30 something million overall. I think that should be it. Just to remind you that we are running stable through this difficult situation. Q1 was okay, was good despite the effect that we saw on the renewable energy side and on the other activity side. I think the other business are running pretty good through.
And yes, we are pretty confident that we can continue on this track for the rest of the year. Thank you.
Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Heilber, for presenting the results on the Q1. Now we are ready to take your questions, please.
We will now take our first question. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Yes, good morning. This is Axel Hinkl from Pareto Securities. Good morning, everyone. I got 2 questions. Thanks to your very detailed overview.
So I think not many questions left. But still, I would like you to provide maybe an update on the intended restructuring in the agriculture segment, whether you already made some progress here, that would be my first question. And the second question is on renewables. You mentioned that this is the swing factor for the Q1. If I strip out one off effect, I come up with a delta of still 2 point something in EBIT, which is not the last number.
But given that revenues were up, I just have problems to understand why EBIT is still down then by that even small number. So thanks.
Okay. On the restructuring on the Agri segment, it's pretty much too early now to comment on this, to be honest, because we are in this process. We included costs of some EUR 2,000,000 euros in the Q1 already for the closure of, I guess, 7 or 8 locations. But I beg your pardon, I'm not able to talk about this in more detail now, but this is what we have in the Q1. On the Renewable sector, the EUR 2,000,000 dollars do you have an explanation on this?
The revenue is mainly driven by energy trading and solar trading. So this is the business where we have the lower margins. So that must be the cost effects overlapping the margin result on solar trade business and the energy trading business. This is all the explanation that I have in short now. It's all once again, the whole result on the renewable energy sector is only driven by the realization of the project, where costs might not be fully capitalized within the quarters.
But this is the only explanation that I have for the results gap in Q1. But this is really a flashback.
And maybe I can pose a follow-up question on the agriculture segment. You said you already provisioned €2,000,000 for one off costs in Q1. Maybe you can say what's your expectation for the entire year? And for the entire exercise, how much one off costs do you expect to incur for that? Thanks.
That will be a number of €7,000,000 for the full year this
year. €7,000,000
Okay. Yes. Very good. Okay, thanks.
We will now take our next question. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Hello. This is Anne Crow for Edison. Thank you for taking my questions. I have a couple of questions. The first is thinking about the building segment.
Do you have any exposure to commercial property construction? Or is it primarily residential that you're involved in? And then the second one was, would you be able to catch up from the shutdown in Italy?
Firstly, on the Building Material sector, just remind you that we are not a construction company. So we are not directly involved in any of these construction issues. We are a wholesaler, and our main customers are at least really related to the private home, the house building sector, the private house building sector. There might be the 1 or the other also commercially customer related, but the main focus of our Building Materials business is the private homebuilders, the sector of renovation, modernization. And by the way, what I need to point out also on the Building Materials sector, also on the DIY sector in Austria, what might we what we might expect there is positive effects from the homing factor, which is coming back stronger already this year through because people are not able to travel, they are not able to go to or on holidays, so they will stay at home, And that will strongly also impact our business on these on the building materials and the DIY sector in Austria.
But coming back to your question, no, mostly of our customer are related to the private house building or the house building sector, not the commercial ones. Thank you. Testing up Italy yes, sorry.
Sorry, it's really helpful to know that a lot of it's involved in renovation as well because that tends to go on whatever's happening.
Yes, I can only tell you all my neighbors through being at home and the home office situation, they all started to renovate their apartments. That's really a funny thing to see. And I encourage them to do so because they have to go to Baiva and buy all the stuff there. Catching up Italy, I think that will be a hard thing to do, to be honest. I think that what has been lost in on the international trading, it should be overcompensated by other business in the international bus activities, also on the specialty business.
That should not be a big impact. As we saw it with 1.5%, I mentioned, the effect for the Q1. Do not expect that to be continued quarter on quarter, summing it up to some €6,000,000 or so. This is not what I see. But catching it up, that would be probably hard to do.
If it comes back to normal, the interesting thing is Italy was completely shut down. It was completely unable to get in or out of that country. And this is slowly coming back again. We are already supplying commodities. We are already supplying grains from Germany into Italy again.
So this has already continued to be back on track. But catching this up, I think that would be hard.
Thank you. That's very helpful.
We will now take our next question. Please go ahead, caller. Your line is open.
Thank you for taking my question. Arder Basrials, Barbour Research. 2 concerning the energy segment. Firstly, one is to the traditional energy, which seems to go from strength to strength this time due to the decline in the heating oil price, I guess, was a big driver there. But I guess, following a mild winter, 'nineteen, 'twenty, and people already starting up, filling up their tanks, there's only so much space that can be filled from here on.
I heard you say that you assume that this strength will continue. On what assumption is that based? I was wondering, especially if we see an ongoing decline in the heating oil price as it is lagging the development of the crude oil by, give or take, 3 months? That would be my first question. And my second question is to the Renewable part of the business.
Have you seen any major delays regarding either additions to your pipeline or be delays in the selling process, not in the completion process of projects, but in the selling projects Due to travel restrictions and this, I guess, is mostly sold off via auctions, which might be hard to entertain at least at the current time. It would be my 2 questions.
Thank you, Mr. Rois. If I say the demand situation on the conventional energy will be continued that I amended for the next 3 months, yes? This is what we what I pointed out, the order books are full, and this will continue by the end of up to the end of June, which is quite unusual, as I said before. Normally, it comes down by the end of April and then starts again in August.
It will yes, this is what I can see. That has been driven by the pricing situation, but which is also sometimes a mild winter. Yes, we have a mild winter, but it was also the situation that people had to heat anyway. So there's not a zero consumption, even if we have a milder winter than it was in previous years. So I think it might come up that we have in the second part second half of the year, a lower demand in for some reasons or some areas, some volumes, but overall, it continues up to the end of June.
This is on the Energy segment, on the conventional one. On the Renewable, any delays in additional to the pipeline, we have not seen additionally additions to the pipeline so far, but it was not planned to have new portfolios in or something like that. On the selling process, no, actually, I can't say this. There might be, of course, restrictions due to the home office or the mobile office and to travel restrictions from some to the other project. But we just yesterday sold 2 projects in Malaysia, signed 2 projects in Malaysia.
So the process is ongoing on for the big ones that we expect to have in the U. S, mostly in Mexico. These are the 2 main focus areas for the rest of the year. This is continued and that is ongoing. We also locked in a finance transaction on one of the big projects in volume of €100,000,000 throughout the situation.
So I cannot really say or confirm that we have stronger delays in the selling process or also in the financing process.
Very clear. Thank you for that. May I sneak in an additional question? Just a quick one. I just wondered how the sale of PV modules is faring at the moment?
It was a very strong demand in March April. That was mainly driven by and we were able to deliver, we were able to supply. So that will also have an impact on the April and probably also on the May result. But as we learned on Monday, as China is back in the production and the prices are coming back, This is reduced now or the people or the colleagues expect a reduced demand for the rest of Q2 athletes. So this is the picture that we saw.
Thank you so much.
It appears there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back to Jos Korodinich for any additional or closing remarks.
Yes. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation and interest in this conference and also to Mr. Heber for doing it almost alone today. One small remark, our AGM will take place on the 28th of July. It has been postponed due to corona.
However, it will also take place virtually. So you can participate if you wish. All information will be broadcasted on our website. And yes, the next analyst conference call takes place on the 6th August, and we will be happy to hear you and to see you all healthy until then. Thank you very much.
Bye bye.