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Earnings Call: Q1 2026

Feb 13, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Q1 2025/2026 Financial Results Conference Call. I'm Lorenzo, the Chorus Call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Kirill Turchaninov, CFO. You will now be joined into the conference.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Hello, and welcome to the Deutsche Konsum Real Estate first quarter financial year 2025/2026 financial presentation. My name is Kirill Turchaninov. I'm the CFO of Deutsche Konsum Real Estate, and Mr. Lars Wittan is also sitting right next to me. We will be presenting today's results, today's numbers. We can start by taking a look at page four, where we have the highlights. It is a bit more compact than we usually do. We have last time presented our numbers just under two months ago, so some things will be repeated because the events took place already in Q1, and we talked about those a little bit last time in December.

But anyway, the Q1, we have the rental income, which decreased by EUR 800,000 - EUR 16.9 million, about 4.4% down, versus the same quarter of the prior financial year. So we are doing year-over-year comparison here, and that went pretty much as expected because of the asset sales. FFO went up by about 57%, so it seems to be somewhat, you know, significant number. The primary driver for this is the lower interest expense. We will expand on this and provide some more details once we talk about financials on the financial slide. We have sold eight properties, and sold in this particular case means that we have signed the SPA, the sales purchase agreement, in December for those eight properties, with a purchase price of EUR 34.7 million.

Two sales were actually closed in Q1, and they had some impact on our property metrics. We will also touch upon those later on. Obotritia did not repay the outstanding receivable of EUR 60 million. We have reported this and obviously shown this throughout the year, and the due date was end of December. We are currently in discussions with Obotritia. We have consulted our legal advisors. We are working together with Obotritia to find the best possible solution and the best possible outcome. Now, obviously, we did not give up on collecting the EUR 60 million and would like to find a really acceptable solution for us as well with Obotritia. Loan-to-value was slightly reduced to 56.4% compared to the prior quarter, which was, of course, September 25.

What is not shown and what we do not have yet obviously reflected on the balance sheet is the results of the debt to equity swap. I will say a few more words about this, on the next page. However, with all things being equal, if we take a look at the so-called pro forma balance sheet as of 31/12, we, we are looking at LTV with obviously a calculated effect of the debt to equity swap of about 41%. At an average weighted debt cost was substantially lower at almost 3% this time. And again, we will provide more details once we, look at the page on the financing.

So now we can take a look at the next page, which is page five, where we provide a bit more details on the restructuring plan and obviously the important event of debt-to-equity swap. Now, to recap the main points of the extraordinary general meeting, which took place on the fourth of December. The mixed cash and contribution in kind capital increase was approved. The subscription rights, obviously, with subscription rights and the share price or issue price of EUR 2 per share. We already expanded on the positive effect of such a measure, so obviously improved ratios, improved KPIs. We will also have a substantial number of assets released as a security. An important step and a major part of our restructuring plan. There were a few other items-...

approved or actually on the agenda for the extraordinary general meeting. One of those was the change of the company name from Deutsche Konsum REIT to Deutsche Konsum Real Estate. That took effect upon the registration in the commercial register on the 27th of January. Now, no legal challenges were logged to the commercial register, so we made an application to the commercial register for the capital increase. That capital increase will result in a total of about 59.4 million of new shares, new bearer shares. And the effect or the effective moment of this will be once the commercial register does make that entry in the commercial register. 166, about 166,000 new shares were exercised against the cash contribution, and, well, we as of now, don't know who actually exercised that.

Now, again, net asset value pro forma, all things being equal, taking into consideration the capital increase would be around EUR 4 per share. As I mentioned before, the capital increase is not yet reflected in the balance sheet and obviously not yet reflected in the list of the shareholders and their holdings. Once it is reflected, once the shares are issued and are exchanged in a debt-to-equity swap transaction, preliminary, we expect Faber L to hold about 60.5% of the shares of Deutsche Konsum Real Estate. Now, we can take a look at the property or actually at the portfolio details on page eight. As I mentioned previously, two assets, two properties were closed, so the total number we have as of the end of December is 149.

That had effect, certainly on our total fair value, which includes both, both properties held for investment as well as held for sale. There was some minor CapEx, which also obviously impacted that number. There is a development in the vacancy rate, which went down from 14.2% - 13.6%. The primary driver for this is a closing of a sale of one of those assets, which was closed in Q1, had a substantial vacancy. It was a former Real supermarket, and had about 11,500 vacant space. So that obviously had an impact on our total vacancy rate.

Other key property metrics, which we list below here in the table in terms of rent contribution from non-cyclical tenants, in terms of the CPI linked linked contracts, remain unchanged versus the prior quarter. Now, we can take a look at the financing details, and we show here on page 11, the maturity profile of our liabilities. As before, due to the restructuring and the agreements we have entered into with various lenders, there are no maturities coming up in the financial year 2025, 2026. The substantial number of maturities in 2027 is expected, well, is actually planned, so in the restructuring opinion. The total debt cost of 2.92% is substantially lower than the one in the prior quarter.

The main impact or primary impact for this is that the instruments, the financial instruments, the convertible bonds, as well as the corporate bonds, bear no interest as of the first of October until capital increase or debt to equity swap is implemented. Therefore, they obviously heavily impact the interest percent, the average interest percent, as they are substantial in volume, and they bear no interest. Once debt to equity swap is implemented, they will obviously no longer be counted as our financial liabilities. So we expect that the average weighted debt cost will go up after... Well, truly mathematically, after the capital increase is implemented.

To recap, the main events obviously was the extraordinary general meeting, the implementation of the capital increase, which is ongoing right now, and as the application was made to the Commercial Register court in the city of Rostock, there were no legal objections. We expect this to happen, you know, within the next few weeks. Obviously, we cannot control how fast this entry is made. We are done with our presentation part, and I would like to open the call for questions now. Please, operator.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press Star and One on their touch tone telephone. You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered in the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants on the phone are requested to disable the last speaker mode while asking a question. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time... There are no questions from the phone for now.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, let's give it a minute or two. Right. Well, if there are no questions at this time, we should probably-

Operator

Yeah, one question, sir.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Of course.

Operator

The first question comes from the line of Andreas Pläsier from Warburg Research. Please go ahead.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Yeah. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for your presentation. I have questions regarding your interest rate costs. You mentioned that we will see an increase after the capital increase. What level should we expect for the average interest rate costs in the next quarter?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Right. Well, there are obviously a few moving parts. As we close the sales and we sell the assets, obviously, we have to pay down the underlying real estate loans, so that needs to be figured in. The effect will come, as I mentioned, from reduction of liabilities with zero interest bearing. I don't have the exact number for you, but Andreas, I can get back to you once we do the pro forma calculation.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you wish to register for a question, please press star and one on your telephone.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

We're mute.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Andreas Tillack from Alpha. Please go ahead.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Hello. Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I think I've seen that you have quite a bit of cash with increased your cash position. Will you be using the cash coming in from the sales and your current cash position to prepay existing loans, or how is it agreed upon?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Right. Well, thank you.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Basically, part of the mortgage or the assets.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Sure. Right. Now, when we sell assets which are secured by real estate debt, well, always, they are security for the loans by lending banks. First and foremost, we have to make repayments to those banks to release the security. So part of these sales proceeds, or the sales proceeds, obviously goes there. As the loans are very different, the banks are very different, and the security is rather different, it depends on a very specific case. There is no special formula. However, the cash which is accumulated, which we are going to continue to accumulate as per our restructuring plan, is going to be used to repay the notes, the promissory notes, which we have outstanding and due to our agreements with the lenders maturing on at the end of September 2027.

So the restructuring plan, the restructuring opinion, foresees that we will accumulate cash and repay those unsecured lenders in one shot. Now, whether the cash will accumulate faster, as it is expected in the restructuring plan, and we might enter into discussions with the lenders to repay that earlier, remains to be seen. What is, of course, terribly important to keep in mind is that we treat lenders equally, so there is no preference to one lender versus the other lender. This is to the other lender. This is an underlying principle of the restructuring plan, which is, well, very fundamental. So we cannot make a preference and repay one lender with this accumulated cash and not the other. There needs to be a certain arrangement, there needs to be a certain agreement with all the lenders, so that we don't endanger the restructuring opinion.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

How have the banks reacted to your restructuring? Are they willing to extend some loans because of the very low LTV right now, so you can basically reduce your debt program a little bit?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, we reported this, I think, in some call or in some presentation report in the past. The agreement which we reached with all the lenders during the course of summer last year, was necessary for FTI-Andersch to issue the restructuring opinion. That restructuring opinion foresees a certain plan of paying down the lenders. Now, it does not foresee that the lenders will extend loans beyond the already agreed date of 30.09.2027. So all those-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Understood.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

So all those maturities which were in place for the next, well, what's now a year and a half, they remain the same. We cannot deviate from the restructuring plan without agreement of all the lenders.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

... but are you receiving some signals from banks or others that they are happy with the development with your, that essentially you're also selling some not-so-great assets, that they might be willing to say, "Well, an LTV of, say, 40% or 30% is fine with us. We will just extend some existing or issue some new bank loans?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, one has to take a look at the facts. First of all, as of now, we do not receive any negative feedback from the banks-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Okay

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

which we considered as somewhat positive.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Mm.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

but the capital increase has not been formally implemented. The debt-to-equity swap-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Okay

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

... did not formally take place.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Mm, okay.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

It doesn't make any sense to go and talk to the banks-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Mm

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

or ask for tentative opinions until this is actually formally done.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Okay, understood.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Mm-hmm.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

But you're planning to speak with the banks and ask them whether they would be willing to accept a certain level of LTV at your company?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, um-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

If possible.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

What we are planning is to make absolutely sure that all the formal steps of the debt-to-equity-

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Yep

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

-swap has taken place.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Right.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

That is the key. What is going to happen also, as envisaged and actually agreed in the restructuring opinion, is that we will continue to provide reports to the banks on our financials.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Mm-hmm.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Let's see what the banks say once we provide our next financials reflecting such an LTV.

Andreas Tillack
Managing Director, Alpha

Okay. Okay, thank you. Understood. Mm-hmm?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Sure. You're welcome.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from the line of Andreas Pläsier from Warburg Research. Please go ahead.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Yeah. Two follow-ups.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Sure

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

... firstly, you have a write-down of EUR 2.5 million in the first quarter. What was the reason for the write-down? And the second one is, you are very active in selling properties. Are your prices in the negotiation, do you have some positive news? Are the prices, prices realistic, or should we expect here some further valuation changes in the coming quarters?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Understood. First part of your question, write-down is actually formally in accounting terms called bad debt accrual or bad debt provision, which we regularly make on outstanding receivables to tenants because of the aging principle. So, you know, 100%, 360 days, 75%, 300 days, and so on. So, since the outstanding receivables and were substantial at this stage, we have made such a provision. In addition, unfortunately, one of the tenants, and that's Hammer Fachmärkte in German, declared bankruptcy, and we did have outstanding receivables, well, actually a substantial one, against the supermarket, and as a rule, once that happens, we make a 100% bad debt accrual. So that takes care of the first part of your question.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Okay.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

In terms of the second part... I'm sorry, can you please recap what it is, what it was?

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Yeah. What's your view on the prices on your-

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Okay. Yes, got it.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Yeah.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Thank you. Now, obviously, it is known that we are selling assets in the market, so we receive quite a substantial number of rather unrealistic offers to acquire our assets. We are working with our new property asset and transaction manager, GPEP, to actually sift through those things, but also proactively approach specific players in the market who might be interested. Yes, there will be sales below the current market value, which is to be expected, and by the way, also reflected in the restructuring plan. What we have seen, however, in really practical terms, it is very asset specific. So individual assets can have, well, quite actually, almost book value sales.

So we have seen an asset where, the value of the asset was, let's say EUR 9 million, and we sold it for slightly more than EUR 9 million. However, on the other hand, we also see cases where assets in the portfolio, do have, some discount, and that discount can be between 5%-10% and, maybe more. We don't know that yet. That depends. So in that respect, yes, we are actively marketing certain assets with the help of external professionals, and, in that case, sometimes sales prices are lower than the existing book value. As to the valuation of the portfolio, last year, we actually had two. One happened, for our third quarter close, which was 30th of June 2025, and the second one, which happened to the 30th of September.

Both were done as usual by CBRE, and they resulted in a total devaluation of roughly EUR 70 million for the prior financial year, which we obviously reported as well. I cannot possibly forecast what the valuation of the portfolio will look like at the 30/09/ 2026.

Andreas Pläsier
Research Analyst, Warburg Research

Okay.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Orlu Praise from OK Consult. Please go ahead.

Orlu Praise
Analyst, OK Consult

Hi, Kirill. Thanks a lot for being able to ask a question, or rather two actually. First, have I understood your latest press releases correctly, that VBL took all the shares they had to, according to the agreement, not as many as they could have gotten? Because it's now 60 instead of 75 million shares that are being placed all together. And secondly, the funds from operations reported for the quarter referred to the old number of shares, so basically, you have to divide it by two per share due to the dilution, for the future now.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, actually, Faber L was never expected to take 75 million shares. It was a total amount of shares authorized. However, Faber L is converting its debt instruments, which are the registered bond, bonds in the full amount. So those borrowings, which we had from Faber L, and obviously, you know, carried them, will fully take place, or will fully be converted into equity, and this is the 59-something million, which we just, you know, which I presented, was on the second page, I think. So in that respect, everything went exactly as planned. What we didn't know, obviously, at the time of the offer, is how much will be exercised against cash contribution, how much of the rights will be exercised, and we didn't know.

It could be, you know, it could have been, you know, 10,000, it could have been 1 million. So there was a room in terms of the number of shares authorized to accommodate potential exercise of cash rights. 166,000 or about were exercised, so obviously, that is not such a huge number, and that allowed the debt holders to fully convert. In terms of FFO per share, I understand your question. Well, yes, it will be obviously reflected using the new number of shares once they are actually issued. And as I mentioned before, that didn't happen yet, as the formalities need to happen, and the commercial register needs to make a specific entry. And then we will exchange debt instruments for the shares, and then we will obviously have the new shares and the new FFO numbers.

Orlu Praise
Analyst, OK Consult

Thanks a lot. Follow up, if I may. Do you have some rough ballpark figure or maybe a range for the net asset value per share after the dilution and after the write-downs, which are visible on the sales, not the pipeline, but the existing sales?

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

I'm not sure what you mean by the write-down. We just, you know, Andreas asked about that. That was a bad debt accrual. But if you're asking about the pro forma, meaning if we take the balance sheet as of 31/12 and just adjust it for the implementation of the capital increase, then that asset value per share would be, in theory, EUR 4.

Orlu Praise
Analyst, OK Consult

Okay. Thanks a lot. That's very helpful.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Sure.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Kirill Turchaninov for any closing remarks.

Kirill Turchaninov
CFO, Deutsche Konsum Real Estate

Well, I would like to thank everyone for your time and attention during our call, and for the insightful questions, which we hope we pretty much answered to your satisfaction, and I do remember there is one follow-up. Once again, thank you, and that concludes the call. Goodbye.

Operator

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