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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Aug 14, 2023

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Hello, everybody. Let us start directly with the key highlights. It was actually quite a positive Q2 . Orders received 1% plus, but especially with that, what we had in Q1, quite a good growth for the first half of the year with more than 10%. Revenue increased by 6%. Same is with the half year result, where we are slightly higher with 7% growth. EBITDA margin for the quarter, 3.9%, which is significantly above last year. Free cash flow, as expected, -EUR 46 million. Regarding the market, in all geographies and all industries, a positive development and a positive outlook.

We are actually proud, proud in the name of all our employees, because the strategy and the strategy implementation shows first effects in the figures, too. We will go later on a little bit more into the details for that. Part of that is the efficiency program, which is well on track and will deliver that what we promised. The outlook for 2023 is confirmed. If we then look to ESG, especially to the safety part, safety is utmost important for all of us, and especially if you work on different plants in different countries with different conditions all day long. We, as Bilfinger, have a leading function. We perform actually quite well and belong to the safe or the most safe companies on Earth. This quarter, we had a deterioration in the figures.

We actually went up, which is negative in the safety measurement from Q1. No matter that in the TRIF, we have an improvement in the first half of the year. Special measurements to improve the situation are already implemented, and we expect improvement throughout the year in that very important part of safety. If we then look into the figures, let us start with the order intake. We have a flat order intake development versus Q2 2022, but the truth is that we have quite a significant growth in E&M Europe with 6% and in technology with 32%. International is -23%, and the -23% is purely out of the phasing out and closing down of the construction project business in North America, which is part and fully in line with our strategy.

Our book-to-bill towards the second half, yeah, the first half of the year is 1.14%, which is quite positive. If we look into the share of projects, that's actually born out of the good development in technology. It's in nuclear, it's in biopharma, it's in green technology, which means it's all over. Not to forget that technology predominantly works in Europe, too. If we then look into the revenue, the revenue has a growth of 6%, whereas Europe is 6% in growth, technology, 34% in growth, and international, -9%. If we look into that and seeing these figures, it's clearly, again, out of the restructuring and the phasing out of the construction projects and business in North America, which means it's in full line with that, what we wanted to achieve.

We, as a management, are quite satisfied with the order intake development. We then look into that, what we got as orders, here is a selection of some of the orders, what we got. One is the battery production. We, as Bilfinger, as an EPCM, got the contract for the largest European, largest battery system factory. It's in Gdansk, in Poland, from the well-known customer, Northvolt. Another part is here with ExxonMobil, and it's for more or around 140 natural gas plants to make the maintenance as a frame contract for, in oil and gas, fairly long period of time of 5 years. The last one, what we would like to show, is biopharma, where we are very strong, especially in continental Europe, and now starting to get quite strong in the U.K., too.

We got on multiple locations, EPCM framework agreements and contracts as a 5-year contract to improve the R&D facilities of clients. Out of that, we would like to go to the innovation, because that's one part of our success. Besides the market, innovation is a big driver for being successful, and we are known for that, and we are actually proud of that, too. That we use well-established innovation in other industries, combine them for the benefit of our clients to offer them, like in that case, up to 80% improvement in inspection time. It is, again, a drone-based, control and inspection of insulation at any industry, any setup, what you can imagine. Why is that so important and so innovative?

Because in regular inspection, you have to make scaffolding, and you have to go with quite a lot of people into the plant, on the plant, to check and to control. Here we can do it fully digital with an own developed software, flying over it and immediately identifying the spots and having them with little assess work, a direct improvement for our clients. This is another milestone to reduce CO2 for our clients, and fits fully into our strategy of being number one in efficiency and sustainability improvement for our clients. Out of that, into the efficiency program. The efficiency program is a program to reduce 750 positions in administration within the Bilfinger group.

We announced the program in November last year with the clear target, 750 positions out, the one-time cost, EUR 62 million, and the full benefit is EUR 55 million in the full year, 2024. We will take EUR 13 million from the EUR 55 million to invest into our own people in education and training, which is in a time of labor shortage, especially of expertise, very important. Let us look where we are today. At the end of Q2 , we had 251 of the positions out of the company. The cost for it was EUR 3.3 million, and the improvement already at 30th of June, is EUR 19.3 million. Means in the year 2024, we already have an improvement on the list of EUR 19.3 million.

Because, as I said before, it's a run rate, and it's placed for the year 2024, where we will be over 5% EBITDA. The ongoing costs, which are not in the provision, and what we realized up to the end of the Q2, is EUR 3.4 million. If it comes to the people and the people development, FTE development, you will recognize that we are down roughly 1,300 people, and out of that, more than 1,000 in North America. To that, what we said in the order intake, to phase out the construction project business, the older one, and the other part to a quite a vast majority, is related with the efficiency program. Most, more or less, all of the positions are outside Germany, realized. If we go to the financial highlights, I would like to give to Matti, our CFO.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

Yes. Thanks, Thomas. Good afternoon, everyone. As Thomas said, quarter two was a good quarter. Looking at orders received, +1% may look on the low side. However, as you remember from the first quarter, we had a significant growth there, and year to date, orders received are up 11%, which is far above what we have said as the midterm targets during the Capital Markets Day. We made good progress on profitability. As you can see, gross margin has increased to 10.4%. SG&A ratio has reduced to 6.5%, so in total, EBITDA margin is up quite a bit at 3.9%, and free cash flow is below prior year, but as expected, with -EUR 46 million.

If we look at the revenue, we see a plus 6% organically, which has happened across all the businesses except the U.S.. Here, it's not the entire U.S. business, it's one business, where we have planned, and we are executing a reduction in revenue, in the installation and construction project. We have seen a quite a strong increase in technologies, and I come to this on a later page. Profitability up to 3.9% compared to 3%. EUR 43 million in one quarter is a very good number, compared to EUR 32 million in the Q2 of last year. Gross Profit increased to EUR 116 million, 10.4%, over EUR 107 million, 9.9%. Again, this is across the business.

Particularly, we have seen an improvement in international as well. The SG&A expenses, as I said earlier, down by EUR 3 million to EUR 73 million compared to last quarter, which is an indicator for very good cost discipline throughout the organization. We have, on a restricted basis, only refilled positions that were very critical. All the others, we left open or removed those positions, and we have made quite some progress on standardization and automation, which is also fully in line with our strategy. This chart, which we introduced at the Capital Markets Day, mainly to explain the large swings that we had between 2021 and 2022. This year is much easier to read. Starting on the left-hand side with the EBITDA and going through the financial result, taxes and others to get to the net profit.

In essence, the higher EBITDA really translates into an higher net profit. The earnings per share come to EUR 0.79 for the quarter. Free cash flow is below the very good prior year quarter. If you remember, it's not shown here, but we know it all. The first quarter in 2022 was quite weak. We look more to year-to-date in that respect. Year-to-date, the free cash flow is - EUR 73 million, compared to - EUR 57 million last year. This is entirely attributable to an increase in CapEx, which went up by EUR 15 million. That's where the net difference comes from. All in all, and also seen on the right-hand side, we have made some progress on working capital. The DSO days reduced by two days, quarter-over-quarter.

Despite increased revenue, the net trade assets are lower. A bit, more flavor on the segments. We have seen good growth and stable EBITDA margin in the second quarter in Engineering & Maintenance Europe. Orders received up by 6%, also after a very strong first quarter, EUR 922 million was the first quarter, now EUR 694 million. Year to date, we have grown double-digit in Europe as well. Revenue has grown by 6% to EUR 751 million, and the EBITDA margin is quite stable at 5.2%, which is above 5%, obviously. Revenue split has not changed, and the split between industries has also remained quite stable. 40% in chemicals, petrochemicals, 25% oil and gas, 10% in energy, and pharma and biopharma, and the others make up the rest.

International, Middle East, has come in with quite a positive development, and as mentioned earlier, we are restructuring the U.S. business, parts of the U.S. business, and that's impacting our performance. However, orders received quarter-over-quarter are -23%, but year-to-date, we're still up at 10%, and the revenue is, by design, obviously reducing from EUR 186 last year to EUR 171 in Q2 2023. The revenues from the installation projects are dropping off rapidly, as we wanted it to have. They are being replaced with revenues from maintenance work, which, and that's very typical, we know it from Europe, comes in at a slower pace than pure project work.

On the profitability, -EUR 2 million after -EUR 1 million, so almost at the same level, but better than Q4 and Q1 , 2023. Revenue split also here, very stable still, but with the reduction in projects, this should be moving more towards frame and service contracts in the near future. A real highlight of the second quarter is how technologies developed. We have a significant increase in orders received, over 30% more, to EUR 225 million, a book-to-bill of 1.22%. The revenue is up over 30% as well, to EUR 185 million. This all falls into line with our strategy for the projects in energy transition.

Profitability up to EUR 8 million compared to EUR 3 million, which is a 4.44% against the revenue, compared to 2.3%. It's a full two percentage points better than Q2 2022. With that, I hand it back to Thomas for the market development.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Thanks a lot, Matti. The market development is all over very positive. It's one of the times as a CEO where you really can look, wow, good market for us. I would like to go through each of our core industries in Bilfinger. If we start with energy, the whole world talks about energy transition, what does it mean? It doesn't mean only to have new energy and new technology. It's actually quite a lot with the, by far, the majority to improve existing assets and combine them with newly developed technologies. There we are, as Bilfinger, in all geographies, in all the industries where we are in, quite successful. On top of it, we have the nuclear power revival, that revival is in North America.

That revival is all over Europe, but Germany, that gives us quite a lot of tailwind in that industry, where we are not only participating to build new nuclear power plants, where we are able, and actually part of demobilizing nuclear power plants, as well as making waste treatment for what we call soft, so-called soft, waste material. Which, for example, the mine site, Asse, in Germany, where we help the client to handle these kind of low-rad, gamma ray material. Further, we see that the investments into new technologies, like battery, like from Northvolt, or carbon capture, or hydrogen, or any other new energy source, helps us to drive our order intake and our profitability, and we are able, with our strategy, to combine our different services into a solution partner. We are very much liked in the industry.

If we go to the chemical and petrochem, this market is good, too, and it's in Germany, of course, quite a lot of challenging verbalization around it. When you look into what we as Bilfinger offer, we help clients to get more efficient and more sustainable, and that is what our clients need if they expand, like in North America, and what they need if they actually decrease their capacity. In that area, we see ongoing investment projects, and we don't see any stop of it. Yes, it's a challenging market in Germany, but if we see North America, rest of Europe, it's quite a positive talk in the chemicals and into petrochem. To oil and gas.

Oil and gas was underinvested for 10 years-15 years, and in the last 1 year-2 years, a lot of investments are ongoing and refurbishment, higher maintenance level on existing infrastructure. On top of it, there's a lot of efforts from all our oil and gas comp customers to improve their efficiency and especially sustainability. Here, with LNG plants, hydrogen transport plants, carbon capture, it's all over electrification in the oil and gas industry, and we, as Bilfinger, here are, again, very well positioned. On top of it, the pharma and the biopharma industry has a very high demand, not only in the pharma sector, actually in all related industries. The industry tries to localize their supply chain significant more than they had before in the last 20 years-30 years.

They look for standardized, modular systems and plant setup. We, as Bilfinger, are able to offer them that in North America, in Europe, in the Middle East. This good demand gets on top of it, a good demand for future maintenance and service business. All over, we see that the market for that, what we offer, for that what we have in our strategy, is quite good for us, not only short term. Out of that, let us look into the outlook. You see here on the left column, the actual, actual result for 2022. In the mid part, our outlook, and on the right side, the year to date. Let us start with the revenue.

We ended last year with roughly EUR 4.3 billion, and we have a guidance of EUR 4.3 billion-EUR 4.6 billion, and we are already close to EUR 2.2 billion half year. The EBITDA margin. Let us take the 3.2%, where we have adjusted by special items, versus a 3.0% for the half year already. We have a guidance of 3.8%-4.1%, with a result Q2 with 3.9%. We will be in that guidance, of course. Free cash flow, this is guided on EUR 50 million-EUR 80 million, based on the EUR 62 million , little bit more than EUR 60 million provision, what we have for the efficiency program.

Important to say in all these figures is that a lot of the improvement, what you have here, on one side with the market, which is quite good, as well as with the profitability, is what we call on own steam. We explained that very detailed, what we do with operational excellence, with the good performance on the efficiency program and with our repositioning of the company as the main supplier into efficiency and sustainability. Actually, as we see the market developing, we are an absolute good fit for that, what's going on in the market. Out of that, the key highlights: orders up 1% in the quarter, more than 10% half year. Revenue up 6% in the quarter. EBITDA, 3.9% in the quarter, significantly above last year. Free cash flow, as expected, low with EUR -46 million.

The market, quite positive in all industries and in all geographies where we act in. Very important, our strategy and the implementation show first effect in the figures, too. Here, again, a big thank you to all our colleagues around the world for a very, very good job to make that happen. Part of that is the efficiency program, which is absolutely on track and will be finalized at the end of the year, as promised. With that, the outlook is confirmed for 2023. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much, Thomas. Ladies and gentlemen, we come now to the Q&A session. You can post your questions via chat in the webcast, or alternatively, via phone by pressing star and one on your keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and two on your phone. Once again, in the phone, please press star and one on your keypad. Our first question comes from Gregor Kuglitsch , UBS. The line is open.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess my first question is just on the range of guidance. Sort of, I appreciate you don't want to sort of change your guidance all the time, but perhaps as you sit here in August, do you think you're more at the lower or the top end of, of, of that guidance range of obviously a bit of a spread on both on margin and, and, and, and on revenues? And then, the second question is on the cost cutting, which is making progress, and it seems like, I don't know, something like EUR 20 million or so is now, I think, left the company in terms of actual cost. So I wanna understand, in this year's numbers, how much do you actually think will be realized?

Consequently, what's kind of the carryover effect into next year, sort of assuming you crystallize some of the savings already in the P&L now? Maybe a third question on the US restructuring. Can you tell us kind of how far we are there, how much revenue will drop out? Kind of a little bit more detail, how far down the road are we in this sort of process of exiting sort of some of the higher risk stuff in the U.S.? Thank you.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Thank you very much, Gregor. Regarding the guidance, we stay on that what we said. The 3.8%-4.1% on the EBITDA, and, in the revenue, of course, and then the cash flow, too. Reason for that is when you look into the absolute figures, it's actually not a lot of movement between the 3.8% and the 4.1%, to be honest. We think the guidance is quite, quite narrow in that, so we always would go from the midpoint of the guidance. Regarding the, the other part-

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

The efficiency program?

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Yep.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

You know, we started very late into the efficiency program, late last year, so getting up to speed and having the design in place took a bit of time. We have seen a small effect this year, what we expect as an improvement against 2022 P&L is somewhere in the mid to higher single digit euro number. The full effect that we expect before reinvestment into training and education is EUR 55 million. With the sort of ramp-up that is weighted towards the year end, we feel quite confident that this will end up in a yearly run rate of EUR 55 million, starting at 1st of January, 2022, 2024, sorry. Yeah. The, your third question was around the restructuring in the United States.

I think we have tried to explain, and hopefully it came through, is that this only affects a part of our business in the United States, which is the large installation projects that have been unsuccessful in the past. We have had large projects in the $100 million range, which we will not be bidding and performing in the future, and we are moving our business into the industrial maintenance business, very similar to what we do in Europe. We have a number of European-based clients with large installations in the United States that keep asking us to help them also in the United States, so we see quite some positive market movement there in, in our favor. In terms of revenue, that's a bit difficult to answer, to be honest, Gregor.

we know what's how the, sort of the, downward trend is on the revenue from the installation project, but the increase from the maintenance project, as I said, it, it doesn't come continuously. It takes a bit of time to get up there. If you bear with me for another quarter, I may be better positioned to answer that question with firm numbers.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Thank you.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Thank you.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

A small follow-up on the, on the efficiency. It seems like you're also incurring some costs, I think EUR 3 million or something like that. Can you just explain what's going on there? I guess it's sort of like running costs of, I don't know exactly, but, I guess you're not providing for that. That's in the profit. Just to maybe clarify there for the mid to high single digit numbers, that's a, that's a net number? Or if you.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

Uh, the-

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

I'm trying to ask you.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

The cost, the cost that we have shown of EUR 3 million is related to costs that we could not provide for, mainly, consulting costs.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Okay.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

The, the, the in-year positive effect, was a gross number, so not a net number.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Okay, the consultancy costs drop away?

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

Yes.

Gregor Kuglitsch
Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Okay. Thank you.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Thank you, Gregor.

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

Thank you, Gregor. Next question comes from Christoph Dolleschal , HSBC. Christoph, line is open.

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Yeah, hi. Thanks very much for taking the question. I've got a quick follow-up on the verticals. Because you said all verticals are doing well, but then we've seen rather weak numbers by the chemicals, globally, basically wherever you looked at. Could you probably be a bit more precise there, which segments are, are doing well, or, or do you generally also see the chemicals being a bit more hesitant, in OpEx and, and CapEx?

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Yeah, good question, Christoph. Thank you. The very important is to understand that we, as Bilfinger, are there if customers would like to outsource, if customers would like to increase efficiency, if customers would like to get a higher level of sustainability. All these three items and targets are actually fitting to expanding chemical companies like in North America, and to, let us call them, shrinking ones and how to say, reducing capacity, like only in Germany as we see it. What does it mean? It means if a customer in Germany says, "We would like to close down a site, or we would like to decrease capacity on an existing plant," we get a longer-term contract to help clients to do so.

To organize it in a way that customers are still being cash positive and earning some money with it, no matter that they decrease the capacity. It's not that you go into a plant and you push a button, and then everything is half the capacity, you know that. You need experts for that. The labor shortage helps us on that. The expertise shortage helps us on that. Our building, our offering that we can do from engineering to all kind of maintenance, everything, helps us a lot. Our standardization of digital products helps us. We have relatively good order intake in an expanding market as well as a shrinking market. Of course, a shrinking market, after several years, will be then not the growth market for us any longer, too. We know that, but this is not within quarters where it goes away.

We talk here midterm years.

Operator

Very good. Christoph, fine with you?

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Yeah.

Operator

Mm-hmm.

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Yeah.

Operator

Go ahead.

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Just, just follow up, in that sense. Basically, in this transition phase, so to speak, could you be actually saying that, that, you're benefiting from, let's say, the weakness of the chemicals vertical? Because obviously there's a lot of things going on, capacity adjustments, I would say. You're actually benefiting, from that until all of that transition is done, right?

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Yes. Of course, the word benefit in a shrinking market is not really a nice word, but it. You are completely right in that. Customers need significant support if they reduce capacity, as well as they need if they expand. We see a lot of customers thinking or having clear plans to invest outside Germany and looking into capacity reduction within Germany. We can not only help and support customers then to downsize, we actually can help to increase capacity anywhere else.

Operator

Okay.

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Okay, thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you, Christoph.

Christoph Dolleschal
Analyst, HSBC

Yeah, perfect. Thank you, Nina.

Operator

Next question comes from Erik Schaper , Credit Agricole, from the chat. Thank you, gentlemen, for the call. It has not been answered yet. Could you please elaborate on plans to refinance the June 2024 bond in terms of possible actions and timing?

Matti Jäkel
CFO, Bilfinger

Okay, thanks for the question. We've already done quite a bit there. We emitted a promissory note loan into the value of EUR 175 million as of June 30, 2023. We took a lot of time looking at the markets, the debt markets, and decided to go out very early, and this was done quite successfully. We feel very well positioned to then end the bond in June or latest in June 2024. The difference between EUR 250 million and EUR 175 million, I think we can deal with easily, but we may still go out and replace it in full.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, if you want to pose a question, please use the chat in the webcast or on your phone pad, please press star and one. Next question comes from Craig Abbott , Kepler Cheuvreux. Craig, the line is open.

Craig Abbott
Equity Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah. Thank you. Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. Yeah, just quickly on pricing, I think, I don't recall the exact split if you want any more, but I think there was a decent pricing element. Also on the cost side, I mean, in general, not, not, not in terms of the efficiency program, but in terms of underlying wage inflation. Could you maybe just give us an update on both sides, what you're seeing in terms of pricing, in general? I know it's a very broad question, across all three divisions, but on new contracts and what you're seeing on the underlying cost development. Thank you.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Yes. The, at first, of course, inflation goes on. That's clear. Of course, it's slowed down. If we look into the overall inflation, what we think we have in the figures there, we talk between 3%-4%. If it comes to the salary part, the remuneration part, which is for a people company like as we are, quite important, there we see around 6% in increase. If you compare that with our cost development, you clearly see that the operational excellence, the efficiency program, is giving us tailwind in the cost development, and that is good. If we look into the pricing, we don't see in the market a reversal of that, what we had in the last 1 years-1.5 years, where we pushed for higher prices.

We are not getting, another movement in the other direction, that now clients come and say they have to lower the prices. We don't see that. It's more that we are working more and more like partners together with our clients, what to do to reduce the overall cost base of our clients. What we call the efficiency, which is one of the two main cornerstones of our strategy: efficiency and then sustainability. Why are we partner for that? It has to do with the broad offering, what we can show to our clients. With that broad offering, we are able to calculate for the clients the cost impact of better doing in maintenance or engineering or anything else, down to the bottom line of the customer.

That helps a lot to reduce the focus from a pure cost-based comparison with maybe smaller custom, smaller peers in the market, and highlighting more the added value when we work on client side. I hope that answer the question.

Craig Abbott
Equity Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes. Thank you very much.

Thomas Schulz
CEO, Bilfinger

Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Okay. Once again, please use the chat in the webcast, or please press star and one on your phone keypad. There are no further questions as of now. As I know, some of you are on holiday, so if you would like to contact us later, please feel free to contact the IR team anytime. With this, we would conclude this call and, yeah, thank you very much for participating. Enjoy your holiday and see you and talk to you latest in Q3 in November. Thank you very much. Bye.

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