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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Nov 15, 2022

Alexander Foltin
Head of IR and Group Treasurer, Infineon Technologies

Good morning, everyone, and a very warm welcome to the Infineon analyst call. Actually, this is going to be much more than a usual analyst call. You have all seen yesterday's exciting news about our revised financial targets, our new fab building plan in Dresden, but also about our successful 2022 Fiscal Year, and about our continued automotive silicon carbide design win momentum with the big win at Stellantis, l ots of great stuff to tell. Therefore, we thought to augment the time and format and host, one could say, a mini version of a Capital Markets Day today. This is what we have in store. Jochen Hanebeck, Infineon CEO, Sven Schneider, Chief Financial Officer will take you through about one hour of presentation. They will start with a brief look back onto the highlights of Q4 and the 2022 Fiscal Year.

The core of the presentation will be on the upgraded target operating model, how it is derived from our strategy, and how it is leading to enhanced value creation over the mid- to- long term. More near term, you will certainly be keen to hear about our outlook for the 2023 Fiscal Year. Following the presentation, the entire Infineon management board will be ready to take questions from the sell-side analysts. I will explain technicalities later on. Basically, you will use the raise hand function on your Zoom panel and then your computer microphone. First, sit upright and focus as Jochen will take the stage.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Thank you, Alexander, and good morning to all of you. It's a great pleasure to stand here and talk about how Infineon is shifting into higher gear. Alexander already alluded to our Capital Markets Day in October 2021. A little over one year ago, we explained how semiconductor solutions from Infineon are addressing two of mankind's most pressing challenges, the need to fight climate change and the desire to reap the benefits of digitalization. We also talked about how our strategic approach of P2S, or product to system, coupled with a long-term entrepreneurial perspective has led to self-reinforcing leadership positions in multiple structural growth markets. Infineon is at the core of such major growth drivers as e-mobility, renewable energy, autonomous driving, data center power and power supply, the IoT, and many others. The integration of Cypress has contributed significantly to this unique positioning.

All this continues to be true, in fact, even more so than before. Executing very successfully under the challenging conditions of 2022 has provided further evidence of the great strength and resilience of our business model. It is therefore time to set ourselves more ambitious financial goals and upgrade our target operating model. Before coming to those revised targets, let's take a brief look back. 2022 is seeing a new Infineon management team, with me taking over from Reinhard and Andreas and Rutger becoming appointed as CMO and COO respectively. Together with Constanze and Sven, we form a team that is firmly committed to sustainable, profitable growth, a team with great spirit. 2022 is also characterized by an accelerating business momentum for our company. We are proud to be a preferred innovation partner for mission-critical projects of market-shaping customers.

We noted several high-profile, high-volume design wins for both our silicon carbide as well as gallium nitride solutions. We took the key investment decision to build a wide bandgap dedicated fab in Kulim. In terms of financials, our 2022 Fiscal Year has set records. Our revenue grew by 29%, our segment result margin improved by 510 basis points, and we recorded more than EUR 1.6 billion of free cash flow. Sven will add some color to these numbers now.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Good morning, everyone, and welcome also from my side to our different than usual earnings call. Our 2022 Fiscal Year is already in the rearview mirror, but allow me to briefly go through some of the financial highlights. In a strong market environment, we recorded four consecutive quarters of both revenue and margin expansion, defying our usual seasonality and allowing us to beat and raise our guided numbers a couple of times and deliver record results. On an annual basis, our revenue grew by more than EUR 3 billion to a total of EUR 14.2 billion. Over half of that increase comes from volume, in other words, from expanding our manufacturing capacities and from incremental foundry supply. Furthermore, tailwinds from a stronger U.S. dollar as well as positive impacts from pricing and mix contributed each with meaningful triple-digit million amounts to the revenue increase.

In line with top line growth, we also strongly improved our profitability bringing the segment result margin up by 510 basis points to 23.8%.

A rising share of system solutions, favorable pricing, positive currency effects, and high fab utilization levels all helped to more than offset burdens from strongly increasing costs for materials and foundry supply, as well as for energy. For many of our products, demand outstripped available supply by far throughout the 2022 Fiscal Year. As a consequence, ordering behavior by customers was very dynamic. While we are now step by step coming out of allocation, our backlog at the end of September was stable compared to one quarter before, amounting to EUR 43 billion. Adjusted for currency and pricing, we saw a slight quarterly decline. Now, let's take a quick look at the divisions. All four of them significantly expanded their revenue and could have done so even faster in the absence of capacity constraints and supply chain disruptions such as the Shanghai lockdown.

Automotive took the pole position in terms of growth with a rate of 35%, followed by CSS with 30%. In Automotive, in particular, XEV solutions and components for making cars smarter were in high demand. All four divisions also noticeably grew their profitability, all four ending up with a segment result margin above 20%. Among the four, ATV and CSS saw the biggest relative increase. PSS once again achieved the highest margin with close to 28%. A great business performance needs to translate into healthy cash flow generation and it has done so. A surge in our operating cash flow by around EUR 900 million year-over-year allowed us to fund significantly more investments into organic growth and still bring up the free cash flow level of close to EUR 1.7 billion.

That free cash flow was mainly used, besides making a dividend payment, for further deleveraging. Throughout the last fiscal year, we repaid a net amount of around EUR 1.4 billion of financial debt. The Cypress refinancing has been completed significantly ahead of plan. Our leverage ratios are firmly within our target corridor, and we have regained our BBB flat investment-grade rating. Now, let's take our eyes off the rearview mirror and onto the path ahead of us. Back to you, Jochen.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Let's look ahead as an ambitious sailing crew would do, with eyes on the horizon and a clear course, with sails optimally trimmed and all gear in place, knowing that waters will not always be calm and winds will not always come from good directions, but knowing from experience and what to do in different weathers, how to stay the course, and having full trust in each other. With such a crew and a great boat, you win the race, and that's exactly what I envision for Infineon. In business terms, we have clear targets, and we have set them with a long-term ownership perspective. We also know how to get there with a proven strategy and a very experienced and capable management team. In addition, we are developing our corporate culture forward.

We have started a global internal initiative under the headline Spirit to emphasize and strengthen three behaviors, setting more ambitious goals, establishing clear responsibilities, taking timely decisions, and implementing them. The journey ahead of us is highly attractive and rewarding with strong structural growth opportunities and profitability potentials. Markets will likely continue to follow cyclical patterns, and we'll confidently manage them. Together with my board colleagues and the division heads, we did a thorough review of our target markets and applications, technology, product portfolio, competitive landscape, R&D pipeline, and operational setup. The results show the outstanding potential of the Infineon business model. As a consequence, we revised our financial goals significantly upwards and today are committing to more ambitious targets to you, our investors. Our upgraded target operating model is putting profitable growth at its center.

We are fully confident to be able to keep outgrowing our industry going forward, even accelerating our average target growth rate to more than 10% annually from 9% plus before. What is more, we will strengthen our focus on profitability. Our segment result margin target takes an even bigger relative step, up to 25% through the cycle, six percentage points up from our previous target of 19%. We have identified actionable levers from this margin expansion, and Sven will talk about them later. For the first time, we are putting a free cash flow goal in our target operating model, replacing the former investment-to- sales ratio. Over the cycle, we want to achieve an adjusted free cash flow margin of 10% to 15% of revenue.

In this figure, we do not consider expenditures for large front-end fab buildings, as they typically are of a lump sum nature. As you know, all parameters of the model apply on a through cycle basis, which we continue to view as the approach that is best suited to our industry. Raising our financial ambitions should not come at the expense of other stakeholders. We certainly want to keep customer and employee satisfaction at their current high levels. We clearly stay committed to our environmental, social governance and compliance goals. We were among the very first semiconductor companies to state a CO2 neutrality goal, and we will do what it takes to achieve it by 2030. In the following presentation part, we will elaborate on the components of our upgraded target operating model beginning with the growth rate. At the core of all great businesses is a purpose, a why.

In our case, it is being part of the solution to two secular challenges, decarbonization and digitalization, will fundamentally change the world we live in throughout this decade and beyond. To limit global warming and preserve the living conditions on our planet for future generations, a tectonic shift away from fossil fuels towards renewable sources of energy is necessary. On the other hand, creating a sustainable economy and society requires digital technologies, which bring about productivity leads and are key to living and working smarter. The green and the digital transformation are thus going hand in hand. Semiconductor solutions are the essential building blocks of a climate neutral and digitalized world. Consequently, the semiconductor TAM in key markets like e-mobility, renewable energies, data centers and IoT is poised to expand significantly. Market researchers are predicting double-digit growth rates.

In other words, decarbonization and digitalization are causing accelerated structural growth of Infineon's target markets. In order to capture these unprecedented opportunities and to sustainably improve profitability, we will foster our leadership in power systems and IoT. The system approach is the key to unlocking value. Let's first turn to power systems. They are the essence of electrification. Probably the most prominent example is an electric vehicle where you have several such power systems like the traction inverter, the onboard charger or the battery management system. Furthermore, power systems are needed to harvest renewable energy generated from wind or solar. A third example are data centers, where highly sophisticated power stages right next to the power-hungry processors are required to make servers used in enterprise and cloud computing, artificial intelligence and machine learning more power efficient and significantly supporting green computing.

There are many more cases for power systems, and often they literally define the application. At the core, you find power transistors or also called power switches that do the AC/DC and DC/DC conversion. Controllers and driver ICs are needed to operate the switches. It is the interplay of these components that defines the performance of a power system. This is where also a broad range of packaging solutions as well as software and algorithms come into play. The common denominator of power systems is to achieve power density, optimal efficiency in switching and therefore system cost. This has tangible economic and ecological benefits. A highly efficient system reduces losses and helps saving or avoiding CO2 emissions. Another commonality are high quality requirements, as power systems typically are operated over long lifetimes and under rough conditions. Infineon is the world market leader in power systems.

We have established this position over many years through the consistent pursuit of our P2S strategy. We have created a unique competitive moat, building around a holistic understanding of customer requirements, focused innovation in all areas of power and operational excellence in our in-house manufacturing. The resulting comprehensive solutions provide superior value and drive sustainable competitive differentiation and a self-reinforcing business model. To deal with climate change, a strongly increasing number of power systems will be needed at every step of the power transformation chain, and this plays right into our hands. At the generation level, renewables are getting an extra boost from the desire for energy independence. Infineon is the number one semi enabler of renewable energy generation. Around half of the current installed solar and wind capacity on the globe is powered by Infineon. Renewables require modification and upgrade of the electricity distribution network.

Infineon is again in the driver's seat. Around 2/3 of the grid infrastructure built so far for renewables including EV charging station, is enabled by power systems from us. Going forward, energy storage will become very important. This is the crucial step required to create energy supply completely based on renewables and technologies like hydrogen but also batteries in many forms will play a role. The biggest opportunity for us, however, is the efficient usage of electrical energy across a multitude of applications for which Infineon is offering the best-in-class solution portfolio. Take electric vehicles, t he XEV adoption is accelerating. Last September was the first month ever in which more than 1 million battery and plug-in hybrid vehicles were sold worldwide. Infineon is serving 17 of the 20 top-selling brands.

In our 2022 Fiscal Year, we were the first semiconductor company breaking the EUR 1 billion revenue mark with XEV semi solutions. Similar dynamics apply to many more application areas. In some cases, decarbonization and digitalization go hand-in-hand in order to bring down the CO2 burden, j ust think of smart buildings or green computing. In short, climate neutrality will not happen without chips. Chips going into power systems. At the core of Infineon's leadership in power systems is the mastery of all relevant power technologies. For decades, the base material has been silicon. Nowadays, wide bandgap-based solutions are rapidly gaining importance. Silicon carbide and gallium nitride complement and expand the possibilities of silicon and can offer cost benefit advantages for various use cases. Several applications have reached or surpassed their tipping points and market researchers are predicting very dynamic growth.

We have a clear strategy for capturing this growth and the value associated with it. At the same time, different applications will take different transition paths. Silicon carbide lends itself to high-power applications where the power density and switching performance play a decisive role. Extending the range of battery electric vehicle or allowing a smaller battery to be used, enabling fast charging or building more compact solar inverters are all good examples here. Same as energy storage in the future. The key benefit of gallium nitride lies in a superior switching performance resulting in higher efficiency and lower system cost. Some applications, like chargers and adapters, will over time migrate directly from silicon to gallium nitride. In other cases, like the onboard charger in cars, we see an interim silicon carbide phase.

Some semiconductor companies active in wide bandgap are telling their investors that the days of silicon in power discretes are numbered. Well, numbered they might be, but adding up to a very, very large number. In fact, silicon is and will remain for a long time the dominant power technology with a lot of innovation going into it. It makes good sense given its significantly lower cost. Silicon can be deployed where highest performance in the smallest form factor is not the first priority, such as in battery power tools, server power stages for silicon MOSFETs, and huge markets like wind, industrial drives, and trains for IGBTs. Of the two fast-growing wide bandgap markets, silicon carbide has taken off first, and we are at the forefront of shaping it. The best way to think of Infineon's SiC trajectory is in two phases.

In the current phase I, we do the initial silicon carbide ramp in Villach, Austria. The speed of the ramp is limited by available clean room so physical space is the factor that is currently constraining our supply. We are creating more space by moving silicon equipment out. Overall, phase I should get us the first EUR 1 billion of silicon carbide revenue by 2025. Our focus is to get in on all applications, industrial and automotive, giving priority to margin-accretive ones, and achieve a steep learning curve. Then, we are moving to phase II. In spring, we announced the building of a wide bandgap dedicated fab in Kulim. This new fab will result in at least tenfold increase of our silicon carbide revenue capacity to EUR 3 billion by 2027, calculated on six-inch wafers. All equipment we deploy is eight-inch ready.

All suppliers we sign up have to have a credible eight-inch roadmap. The implication is that we can go broad now as we add significant scale, in particular also for high automotive volumes. Construction at the site has begun and is going according to plan. With production scheduled to start in autumn 2024, we are going after projects for the new facility now, and we are winning them at a fast clip. Silicon carbide is a marathon and we are confident about our goal of achieving 30% silicon carbide market share by the end of the decade. That confidence is firmly grounded in the fact that we tick all the right boxes for success. With our qualified boule and wafer suppliers, we have sufficient access to the base material.

We are actively working on further broadening and diversifying our supply base in an emerging and over time commoditizing merchant market and we expect more news to come soon. Our proprietary laser-based Cold Split technology is helping us increase productivity, getting volumes up, and costs down. We believe a full vertical integration also including crystal growth does not ultimately create value. On device level, we went for the superior trench architecture right away, bringing us one, two generations ahead of competition. Trench not only leads to higher performance, it also pays into productivity with 30% more chips per wafer compared to planar. This is another example of how innovation and manufacturing expertise create competitive advantage. The combination of these two factors also applies to packaging, a somewhat overlooked area of differentiation.

With our industry-leading array of packaging solutions, we can optimally cater to customers in silicon carbide-based power systems, which means we can bring a very convincing offer of both off-the-shelf and customized solutions to our customers. Customers are signing up to what we have to offer at an accelerating pace. Big automotive silicon carbide design wins tend to grab the headlines. Well, here we go. In the last four months alone, we landed close to EUR 3 billion of automotive silicon carbide design wins. You are already aware of the bidirectional fast charging onboard charger win at a well-known American OEM announced at our Q3 earnings call. About a month ago, during the ATV divisional update, we spoke about our first-ever silicon carbide onboard charger win at a major Japanese car manufacturer, and now Stellantis. We are proud to help drive the transition to electro mobility of Stellantis.

We signed a memorandum of understanding to enter a multi-year supply and capacity reservation agreement for our CoolSiC bare dies with a value of significantly more than EUR 1 billion. We aim to power more than 10 million battery electric vehicles from European and American Stellantis brands in the second half of the decade. With three high-profile wins covering three continents, we clearly see accelerating traction in the marketplace for our automotive silicon carbide solutions. At the same time, we retain our leadership in industrial applications, in particular for renewable energies. Industrial is somewhat outside the spotlights, but growing very strongly and in particular accretive to our margins. We are working with highly innovative customers and together are putting decarbonization into practice. Recent design wins for solar and charging applications from the likes of SolarEdge or Delta are underscoring this.

Summing up, our customer success trajectory from both automotive and industrial is giving us reason to be confident about our 30% market share goal in silicon carbide towards the end of the decade. The other exciting fast-growing wide bandgap material is gallium nitride. The market for gallium nitride is still nascent today, but is forecast to rapidly grow by a mid-double-digit percentage rate to reach several billions over the coming years. With a key benefit of higher switching frequencies, gallium nitride is enabling much more compact form factors for power applications like chargers, adapters, or server power supplies while also supporting advanced RF applications like high bandwidth antennas in 5G networks.

Underscoring our leadership position in power systems across all relevant materials, we witness strong interest by market-shaping customers for our gallium nitride solutions and have achieved a cumulative design win volume of around EUR 1.5 billion. Different from silicon carbide, gallium nitride components are not adopted in replacement. Instead, the system topology has to be changed to optimally drive and control a gallium nitride switch with sophisticated interconnect technology. Infineon, including the International Rectifier legacy, has pioneered gallium nitride on silicon and holds the strongest IP portfolio in the industry counting 300 patent families, covering the whole value chain from epi to device circuitry and packaging. Together with our cost-efficient IDM setup, a dual-site in-house production, this makes us ideally positioned to explore the profitable growth potentials that gallium nitride is offering.

One further aspect, while today we are moving to eight-inch, it is quite conceivable that over a longer term, gallium nitride will transition to 12-inch, which would nicely tie into another of our core competencies. Besides decarbonization, there is another secular theme that is causing tectonic shifts in this decade and beyond: digitalization. Adding intelligence and connectivity to devices in an Internet of Things enables completely new use cases and step changes in productivity. Digitalization will fundamentally change the way we live and work and Infineon is right at the core of it. With our IoT solutions, we are linking the real and the digital world. By IoT, we mean holistic semiconductor solutions that comprise different functionalities like sensing, control, actuate, connectivity, and security, sometimes physically integrated in a package or even on a chip. The different functionalities are glued together by software layers.

Technically speaking, critical IoT components are microcontrollers, connectivity products such as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or NFC, sensors, security ICs, as well as power supply and switches. Following the landmark acquisition of Cypress, Infineon commands all relevant competencies to drive digitalization and reap strong structural growth from across the various IoT areas. Specifically, Cypress added IoT-dedicated piece of microcontroller, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth combos, the CapSense family of capacitive touch controllers, and the ModusToolbox development ecosystem. Market-wise, the IoT can be roughly structured into a consumer-oriented part with applications ranging from wearables to smart home devices and industrial part with examples like predictive maintenance and automated guided vehicles. In these areas, there's a myriad of small but very profitable projects to be addressed. Additionally, also the automotive world is seeing a digitalization wave with the car of the future becoming a smart and connected IoT device.

The user experience and with the car of the future will be more intuitive and seamless. Software-defined cars will become a reality, supported and enhanced by the emergence of new electrical and electronic or E/E architectures. OEMs are moving from distributed to domain and then to the zone architecture. The ultimate level is a full car computer. For the coming years, the main growth is taking place in mixed domain and zone architectures. This shift opens up a key opportunity for Infineon. In the new architectures, MPUs and MCUs will coexist as many use cases of processing arise. Our AURIX family of microcontrollers with real-time capability, highest level of functional safety, and automotive-grade certification has developed into a kind of gold standard. The third generation incorporates AI-based features and dedicated domain and zone control functions.

At higher levels of car automation, it can act as an intelligence safety host, enabling fail operational driving modes. As a result, our automotive microcontroller business is poised to grow by 2.5x to EUR 4 billion of revenue over the coming years. The story does not end there. Each microcontroller needs a fitting power supply, realized in analog mixed signal technology with an average value of 1/3 of the micro. Infineon has a history of bringing game-changing innovations to market. Radar solutions for both automotive and consumer IoT applications are a case in point. We started making cars safer with radar systems over 15 years ago. Since then, we have kept a leading position with more than every second radar IC coming from Infineon delivering to practically all major OEMs and we continue to innovate.

Our new radar MMIC based on 28 nm CMOS technology are now sampling. Customer feedback on signal-to-noise ratio, system-level performance, and the scalable platform approach is very positive. We expect the market to grow strongly with the number of radar modules per car going structurally up, driven by new features such as advanced emergency braking systems and the increasing penetration of higher levels of vehicle autonomy. This again bodes well for our microcontrollers forming part of their, the radar modules. Here we are lined up to get to the number one market position within the next three years to four y ears. Innovative radar solutions are also shaping the consumer IoT. Here, the key benefit of radar is the combination of precision and anonymity. For example, smart TV sets with presence detection leads to superior user experience without sacrificing privacy. IoT systems thus enable safer and more comfortable life.

Besides privacy, another key factor for IoT adoption is that interaction between humans and machines are seamless. Here is where CapSense comes into play, a capacitive touch technology inherited from Cypress. It basically enables IoT at a fingertip with ease of use, reliable and robust solutions, even working on wet displays. We are the leading touch-based human machine interface market. Profound experience has led to an unrivaled IP base in this area. CapSense is in volume production in a wide range of applications enabling consumer, industrial, and automotive IoT solutions. It is one of many examples of former Cypress products helping us to build an extensive design win pipeline and achieving the envisioned revenue synergies from the acquisition. We are once again reconfirming our well-known mid and long-term synergy targets being fully on track to reach or even overachieve them. Digitalization cannot be thought of without software.

With the help of software, functionality, performance, energy efficiency, and security can be optimized at system level. Consequently, software is a crucial element of our product system approach, and we are strengthening our software capabilities. This does not only mean hiring programmers, but we are creating a framework for success by aligning internal organizations, processes, structures, tools, and culture. The aim is to increase customer value by developing more differentiating system solutions. By capturing a fair share of such value, software will result in significant growth and margin contribution over the next five years. The growth part comes from two aspects. Agile software development enables efficient portfolio expansion through derivatives, and software brings direct initial revenue admittedly from a small base, but growing significantly faster than hardware. Encouragingly, we see first screenshots emerging. Software is supporting profitability by making our system offerings more complete.

The development ecosystem we inherited from Cypress and continue to enhance further is making customer relationships stickier, especially also for smaller solution-oriented customers that require ease of use and short time to market. Let's quickly recap now before coming to our upgraded financial targets. The two secular themes, decarbonization and digitalization, drive accelerated structural growth in our target markets. We are addressing these opportunities through leadership in power systems and IoT. This is underpinned by the consequential pursuit of our proven P2S strategy. Investing in software capabilities will bolster profitable growth. Our go-to-market approach will be enhanced by digital marketing and sales and eye-level strategic partnerships with market-shaping customers. All of that crystallizes into our upgraded target operating model. The first parameter of our target operating model is top-line growth.

We are convinced that we can grow our revenue by more than 10% annually, clearly continuing to outgrow the overall market. Let me remind you, our targets are on a through cycle basis, which means we are acknowledging cyclicality and factor in periods of slowdown and boom. Linking our market perspective with strategy and business setup, we have identified five key applications that will drive high structural growth going forward. Electromobility, renewables, ADAS, data center, and IoT are closely related to decarbonization and/or digitalization. Taken together, these five will account for around 60% of Infineon's revenue growth over the next five years. In some of these cases, more than one division will contribute to an application which is logical and intended given our system approach. Take electromobility as an example.

You might find ATV in the traction inverter and PSS in the onboard charger of a car. Heavier commercial or agricultural vehicles are addressed by IPC. As a consequence, the average divisional growth rates are not expected to differ much from the overall Infineon rate. Having said this, we do think that ATV and IPC have the biggest upside in the coming years. Strong double-digit growth and the creation of customer value is made possible by consistently expanding manufacturing capacities. Our proven strategy stays in place. Manufacturing know-how is a key ingredient to the secret sauce in power semiconductors. Investing in-house facilities contribute significantly to our competitive advantage. The related decisions have to be made with a long term through the cycle view.

This entrepreneurial perspective has paid off nicely in the case of our two 300-millimeter power fabs in Dresden and Villach, which we are now running and ramping further with our One Virtual Fab concept. Looking forward, we are planning to focus on two key front-end projects. The first one, the building of a wide bandgap dedicated fab in Kulim, I've already described. We are investing north of EUR 2 billion to capture the exciting opportunities of silicon carbide and gallium nitride. Construction is going according to plan, and we will set up the complete process chain there, including epitaxy and, in case of silicon carbide, the Cold Split method. The other key investment we are planning is the expansion of our site in Dresden by adding a fourth module for 300-mm production of analog mixed signal components, as well as for power switches.

Let's look closer into this project. As we have seen, sophisticated power and IoT systems are made up by a finely balanced set of different semiconductor components. Dresden 4 would help us to deliver critical power system parts of various kinds to our customers in the right quantity and quality. With an amount of EUR 5 billion, Dresden 4 would be the largest single organic investment in Infineon's history. Once fully ramped, it would have an annual revenue capacity matching the investment. In other words, around EUR 5 billion per year, allowing us to capture growth opportunities in the second half of the decade. The availability of adequate public funding has a major influence on the implementation of the project, and we are in close contact with the relevant authorities. Construction could commence in autumn of next year, reaching ready for production around three years later.

The new fab would be highly automated, very resource efficient, and set up for very flexible production programs, combining different technologies under one roof. A key part of overall capacity is to be dedicated to analog mixed signal components or broadly speaking power ICs, manufactured using 130-nm technology on 300-mm wafers. The global supply market in these mature nodes is suffering from historic periods of underinvestment. Foundries have little incentive to invest in these technologies, leading to a widening gap between strong and underlying demand and available, as well as projected supply, which Dresden 4 could help to close. The products coming out of Dresden 4 would exactly match our key growth applications. Let me illustrate this with a couple of examples. Power systems for e-mobility require battery management ICs and power supplies for microcontrollers. The latter are also required for ADAS.

Power systems for renewables need driver ICs. A power stage for data center consists of two MOSFETs and a driver IC. IoT devices typically has a small dedicated microcontroller. Many also have USB connectors. Furthermore, Dresden 4 would add highly efficient 300-mm capacity for power switches like MOSFETs to fulfill demand and drive economies of scale. Let's take a deep dive into the intended product spectrum of Dresden 4. The new fab would be capable of turning out highly differentiating portfolios, running from different types of power switches to analog mixed signal ICs and systems on chip. By adding significant manufacturing capacities in these categories, we are laying the foundation for expanding our market leadership in power systems. Silicon-based power switches like MOSFETs, are expected to continue to grow.

So-called PROFET, which are MOSFETs with protection features against, for example, overcurrent, are the first type of devices that include some analog mixed signal circuitry in addition to pure power structures. They are essential for body control modules and power distribution in the future. They allow new E/E architectures like zones or domains in the most efficient and safest way. We recently gained the biggest design win ever for this category of devices, covering more than EUR 500 million with a single major German OEM via Aptiv as a tier one. This will enable our customers to build smarter and more reliable cars with the highest degree of autonomous driving features. Analog mixed signal components like power supplies for microcontroller driver ICs or also CapSense touch, mentioned before, are integral parts of power systems, regardless of whether the switching is done on silicon carbide or gallium nitride.

Power system on chips represent, in themselves, power systems for numerous small motor applications, such as window lifters or pumps. The application-specific controllers would go into IoT applications such as USB or white goods. By the way, Infineon is global number one for USB power delivery and USB-C, which will become the charging standard for all consumer products. 130 nm is the sweet spot for these components, providing an optimal balance between analog and power capabilities and the integration of some digital circuitry. A further shrinking will not happen anytime soon. Taking an existing site like Dresden for such an expansion would reduce complexity, ensure fast execution, and allow for significant economies of scale. Deploying 300 mm technology in-house would lead to a cost advantage of around 40% in a steady state compared to sourcing analog mixed signal components from foundries.

At the same time, expanding another site with high volume capabilities would improve supply chain resilience in Europe and beyond so mu ch for growth and investment in our upgraded target operating model. Sven will now continue with profitability and cash flow generation. Over to you.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Thank you, Jochen. Infineon has consistently grown its profitability over the recent years and yet we see further margin expansion potential over the next cycle. Our clear focus is on profitable growth with added emphasis on profitable. It's no surprise that within our upgraded target operating model, the profitability parameter is seeing the most significant revision. We are raising our through cycle segment result target from 19% to 25%. Let me elaborate on the levers we have identified for this big step up. As you can see, there are several factors driving margin accretion partially offset by some headwinds. In each case, we are comparing against our previous through cycle margin target of 19%. Jochen has explained how system solutions create value for our customers, and we expect the share of such solutions in our revenue to go up.

Taking customer value instead of production cost as the starting point for price setting, in other words, more consistently deploying value-based pricing will help us capture a fair share of the value created. Furthermore, we are working on improving the product and technology mix over time. This is addressed via portfolio management across the group. For example, by investing our R&D resources into the most promising opportunities without any large-scale divestitures being in the pipeline. On the cost of goods side, we anticipate additional benefits from accelerating manufacturing productivity driven by the increasing 300 mm share and scale effects from faster revenue growth. Further positive contributions to our segment result margin are expected from OpEx discipline supported by digitalization and scaling. Compared to the previous target operating model, we benefit from a foreign currency effect, in particular, due to the increased strength of the U.S. dollar against the euro.

On the other hand, margin expansion is going to be dampened by cost increases related to topics like materials and supplies, energy or wages. Furthermore, we plan to prefund the creation of more system solutions, including software by scaling up R&D resources and also are accelerating our wide bandgap roadmap. The height of the bars gives you an indication about the relative strength of the respective lever. Taken together, they will let us reach our new average target segment result margin level of 25% through the cycle, six percentage points higher than our current through cycle segment result margin target. This implies a kind of annual margin floor in the high- teens and the potential to go up to high 20s in strong market phases. Infineon's business is therefore going to be more attractive and more resilient.

Regarding the gross margin implicit in our target operating model, we can give you an indication. Assuming average market and business conditions, we target a level of around 45% for our adjusted gross margin, which would then lead to our 25% segment result margin target. This should provide you a hint for your financial models and is not meant as a midterm guidance. Profitability translated into cash generation creates value. This is the reason for including for the first time ever, an explicit free cash flow target in our model. It will replace the investment to sales ratio. Of course, we continue to guide the planned investment amount for the following fiscal year. Over the last two years, following the acquisition of Cypress, Infineon's operating cash flow has strongly risen to a level of EUR 4 billion in our 2022 Fiscal Year.

Going forward, we see this number going up further through the combination of the first two parameters in our upgraded target operating model, accelerated growth and higher profitability. On the other hand, accretive investments into high organic growth remains our number one capital deployment priority. We are convinced that this leads to the highest long-term financial value creation and we have a very stable financial profile that enable these investments in all phases of the cycle. Let me be very clear, our conservative capital structure targets derived from an investment-grade rating remain unchanged. We manufacture in-house where it adds to our competitive differentiation. At the same time, our outsourcing share will go up to around 40% by 2025. This is unchanged. Crucially, we expect operating cash flow to outgrow investments leading to improved free cash flow generation from profitable growth and higher asset efficiency over time.

In particular, the next two years will be characterized by significant investments into our front-end locations. Jochen has described the key projects in Kulim and Dresden. Having available clean room space is the key to reaping structural growth opportunities. We plan to spend a cumulative amount of around EUR 3.5 billion on major front-end buildings over the next five years with a front-loaded timing. Adjusting for these lump sum investments to enable future revenue, we are targeting a free cash flow level of 10% to 15% of sales over the cycle. Looking at a five-year horizon, it's fair to assume that we will reach the upper end of this range in the outer years. Now, let's put it all together. Infineon is sailing a clear course, navigating into promising waters of profitable growth.

We, as top management, are committing ourselves to more ambitious financial goals summarized in an upgraded target operating model. Through this cycle, we plan to achieve more than 10% annual revenue growth, an average segment result level of 25% and adjusted free cash flow of 10% to 15% of sales. As a result, our reported return on capital employed, or ROCE, is expected to continue to consistently grow and to reach twice the cost of capital level. This way, we will create superior value for you, our owners. For Infineon, shareholder value creation is fully in line with other stakeholders' expectations. We take a holistic view. Decarbonization is a major challenge of our time, as again seen at the Global Climate Conference in Egypt. The green transformation will not happen without semiconductors helping pave the way towards climate neutrality.

In the 2022 Fiscal Year, Infineon products have again caused a significant net ecological benefit. Over their lifetime, they save around 100 million tons of CO2 emissions, 33x what it took to manufacture and deliver them. We do not stop there. Rather, we are reiterating our stated goal of achieving carbon neutrality with respect to our scope one and two emissions by 2030, with an interim step of 70% reduction by 2025. This is aligned with the Paris Agreement's 1.5-degree target. On our road to carbon neutrality, we have achieved significant milestones like using green energy in Europe and North America. In our 2022 Fiscal Year, we have brought down our CO2 burden by 23% compared to the 2019 base year, despite very strong business volume growth.

We will continue our efforts with some measures already implemented and showing future impact, like completing the abatement system in Kulim, others being prepared, like switching our Asian sites to green energy. We will stand by our promise. Now, back from our midterm targets to something more typical of an analyst call, our near-term outlook. We are today providing a full year forecast. This is not without challenges. Let me frame this outlook for you. After two years of strong fundamental growth, macro, geopolitical, and sector-specific headwinds are intensifying. Uncertainties around the type of landing after a long upcycle are evident. Generally speaking, the supply shortages are alleviating. Constraints are less pervasive. Lead times are stabilizing. Shortages are narrowing to fewer product areas. This allows distributors and downstream customers to replenish certain stocks.

We have seen channel inventories overall go up from 7.5 weeks to 9 weeks during the September quarter and stabilize at around that level subsequently, which means they are still below target. There is a divergent pattern. Whereas some parts are at least back to normal reach levels, there are still many categories that are scarce, such as MCUs, in particular for automotive, IGBTs for renewables, wide bandgap and analog mixed signal parts driven by limited supply additions at mature process nodes. In automotive, there are still golden screw components that are impacting supply chains. For inventories on our own balance sheet, reach levels have gone slightly down the September quarter, which we ended with 120 days, four less than one quarter before. We have been seeing a bifurcation of semiconductor end markets for some time now.

There is, on the one hand, the well-known weakness in several mostly consumer-related applications, smartphones, consumer battery-powered tools, home appliances, but also various areas in the computing space. On the other hand, market conditions for automotive applications, especially EV and ADAS, industrial, in particular renewables, remain supportive. The underlying trends are intact. As said already in our last earnings call, it is by no means clear that all applications will follow an identical pattern, only starting at different points in time. On the contrary, the supply-demand situation for power devices may well get worse going into 2023 resulting from a surge in renewable demand on the back of the desire for energy independence in Europe, the U.S. Infrastructure Bill, and government programs across Asia. At the same time, electric vehicle adoption will progress more or less unabated, and these two areas compete for the same capacities.

Needless to say, in such times of heightened volatility, careful monitoring of lead indicators is paramount. Our key markets have different drivers and different cyclicalities. We are constantly and closely monitoring business KPIs in order to react swiftly. Our outlook for the fiscal year that has just started can be characterized by structural optimism with some cautionary undertones. What does this mean in numbers? We are on track for a good start into our new fiscal year. For the December quarter, we expect revenues of around EUR 4 billion, reflecting a typical pre-pandemic seasonality. There is no specific currency impact as our assumed U.S. dollar/euro exchange rate of one is virtually identical to the actual one from the September quarter. By division, we expect ATV revenue to sequentially grow by low single-digit percentage rate.

Revenue generated by PSS is expected to decline by a high single-digit percentage rate, as softness in consumer computing and communications adds to normal seasonality. Seasonality will also affect IPC, for which a revenue decline of around 10% is forecast from the all-time high level in the September quarter primarily driven by home appliances. CSS revenue is likely to remain at around the same level as in the quarter before. The segment result margin for the December quarter should develop in line with revenue and come in at a level of around 25%. For the full 2023 Fiscal Year, we expect revenues of around EUR 15.5 billion EUR ± 500 million, translating into a top-line growth of 9% year-over-year. As stated above, Infineon's key applications mostly still show robust dynamics. This robustness includes pricing.

It applies in particular to areas with structural content growth and ongoing shortages like automotive and renewables. Having said this, in our base case, we expect overall growth to moderate and the consumer-related weakness to persist against an uncertain macro backdrop. Also, we envisage some inventory digestion to occur throughout the coming year. Taking all of the above together, we have implicitly baked in a certain slowdown in the later parts of the fiscal year. By segment, we expect ATV to grow above IPC and CSS and PSS below corporate average. The expected top-line growth of around 9% is positively impacted by the stronger U.S. dollar. Due to higher absolute revenues in U.S. dollars, our currency sensitivity has gone up. Let me provide you an update on our rule of thumb going forward.

For each cent movement of the exchange rate, we estimate a quarterly revenue impact of EUR 25 million and a quarterly segment result impact of EUR 10 million. Translating this into our guidance for the 2023 fiscal year, for which we assume the U.S. dollar to be at parity to the euro, compared to an average rate of 1.08 in the previous fiscal year, it means that we should see an annual currency tailwind of around EUR 800 million. Pricing and volume will account for the remaining projected revenue increment. The segment result margin for the 2023 Fiscal Year is expected to land at around 24%. That level would be a notch up from the prior year, showing resilience in a year where revenue is anticipated to develop less strongly than at the average rate for a just upgraded target operating model.

Puts and takes regarding profitability are anticipated to offset each other by and large. We should see favorable currency effects, as just described and favorable pricing from contracts becoming effective. On the flip side, we expect cost increases for energy, materials, and wages, as well as some incremental underutilization charges. For investments in property, plant, and equipment, other intangible assets and capitalized development costs, we project a level of around EUR 3 billion, including Cooling 3 and the planned new fab in Dresden, as we are convinced of the value of forward-looking investing preparing ourselves for secular growth. For depreciation and amortization, we expect a news of around EUR 1.9 billion, including amortization of around EUR 450 million resulting from purchase price allocations that will end up in our non-segment result.

For free cash flow, we expect a level of around EUR 0.8 billion, including some EUR 700 million planned for the aforementioned major front-end buildings. Excluding those, our projected adjusted free cash flow would come in at around EUR 1.5 billion, representing around 10% of sales. Let me conclude my part of the presentation with further good news. As we want shareholders to participate adequately in their company's success, we will propose to the coming annual general meeting a dividend increase of 19% to EUR 0.32 per share. Now back to Jochen, who has our key messages before Q&A.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Ladies and gentlemen, here's what you should take home from this proverbial nut in a nutshell. Decarbonization and digitalization are not possible without semiconductors. Infineon commands a unique position in key markets with double-digit TAM growthareas. We create sustainable competitive advantage through leadership in power systems and IoT. We are doubling down on wide bandgap. Significant design wins in silicon carbide and gallium nitride underpin our 10x capacity expansion. Other areas of significant value accretive investment are analog mixed signal for which we are planning a landmark investment in Dresden and software. We see more profitable growth ahead and expect higher sustainable value generation from our upgraded target operating model.

Alexander Foltin
Head of IR and Group Treasurer, Infineon Technologies

Thank you very much, Jochen and Sven, for this slam dunk presentation. From my point of view, you've already addressed all topics comprehensively, but I'm sure our sell side analysts will want to investigate further.

Therefore, we're now coming to our question and answer session with the entire Infineon management board. The session will work as follows. To ask a question, please click raise hand at the bottom of your Zoom panel. We will then call you one by one. Please accept that call, use your computer audio and make sure your microphone is not muted once we'll call you. Should your signal for any reason not come through, drop me a quick email, and I will try to put your question in. Besides Jochen and Sven, you're also having Constanze Hufenbecher, Chief Digital Transformation Officer, Andreas Urschitz, Chief Marketing Officer, and Rutger Wijburg, Chief Operations Officer to take your questions. I can see that a queue is already building, so let's take our first caller.

Operator

We take the first question now from Francois-Xavier Bouvignies, UBS. Your line is open.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

Hello, can you hear me? Hello?

Operator

Yes, we can hear you.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

Okay, great. Thank you very much for taking my questions. I have two, if I may. The first one is on this new target. Jochen, when you said in the beginning, one of the first something you said is like to change your gears. When we look at your targets, it's, you know, when we look especially at the segment margin going from 19% to 25% seems a very, you know, change in terms of target meaningful. If I take, for example, your comments, Sven, in the past, you said, you know, today we maybe are in the up cycle, so the 19% is normal that it's below that.

Now you are taking a margin that is well still be above what you are able to deliver today, which many out there are thinking it's more an up cycle than a you know below average cycle, if you see what I mean. What makes you think you know today that the 25% in a historic you know average through cycle and that you show the graph the bridge here, but just wanted to understand more how confident are you that this you know the 25% is still conservative on average through cycle rather than a up cycle target? And I have another question after that, please.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Maybe I start, and then I hand over to Sven, and I do the whole how part. When I took over as CEO, I talked to many colleagues and in the top management team, and then we all felt, look, our strategy is perfectly fine. It's driven by decarbonization, digitalization. It's the two major growth drivers this world can offer, and therefore, we are addressing those and that's perfectly fine. Where we want to change is on our behavior, or you can call it also culture. We want to set ourselves more profitable goals, clarify responsibilities, drive timely decisions and execution. I think this is where we can create more value for the company and, of course, for our investors.

How that now goes into numbers, S ven can answer your question in more details.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Francois, thank you for the question. I don't want to repeat now the whole bridge, but you have seen there are different levels where we are really confident that if we execute them well, as Jochen was just pointing out, they will bring us to such a level through the cycle. There may be years which are above and below. If we take the current year as an example, where we just ended with 24%, that was a boom year in the old target operating model of 19%. This needs to now compare to a situation where we have a 25% target through the cycle and where the high 20s number is now the comparable number to the old number in the old system in a boom phase.

If you look at the structural drivers which Jochen has described in the presentation and if you look at the potential, which is not yet in the books, so to say, and I'm just to mention the OpEx scaling or the value-based pricing or the manufacturing, as we described. If you take that into the equation, we think it is the right level going forward for a through the cycle target.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

Thank you very much.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Maybe let me reiterate one thing. We are stressing profitable growth. We are not giving up on growth. We are stressing profitable growth. Infineon will remain, as you can see, with a higher than 10% growth number for CAGR, a growth company. We believe that we can stress profitable growth in order to achieve the overall target operating model, which we just introduced to you.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

Thank you. That's very clear. Maybe my second question is on the silicon carbide and Stellantis deal. That seems quite meaningful, significantly more than EUR 1 billion. Now, if we look at your EUR 1 billion capacity with Villach and EUR 3 billion with Kulim 3, within a few years, it ironically seems with this kind of new deals, you're going to be at full capacity pretty soon. I was just wondering, should we expect all the deals of this kind? What, you know, made you win this deal, basically? Is it like the trench or the capacity approach? And should we expect, you know, further investment? Because the EUR 3 billion might be, you know, if you announce other deals of this kind, you know, might need more already.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. First of all, it's certainly a very big design win and we convinced Stellantis on all of our dimensions in terms of success factors, which I mentioned. It's about the trench, it's about our application know-how, but it's also our supply security, which we can offer. The EUR 3 billion which are depicted on the picture are just a moment in time, right? Rutger will do everything to increase the capacity further. It fits nicely into the corridor, and we will see strong growth beyond the EUR 3 billion the years after. We will go for design wins across all application automotive, but also again, industrial applications, which I think the market is still undervaluing in terms of growth perspectives.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

We should expect other deals of this kind going forward?

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Maybe not every month but I think we will also take some other big OEMs on board. Yes.

Francois-Xavier Bouvignies
Equity Research Executive Director, UBS Investment Bank

Thank you very much.

Operator

Next question comes from Alexander Duval at Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Alexander Duval
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yes. Thank you very much for the question. I'm just following up on the previous question about Stellantis win. I believe we saw some information stating that was for bare dies. But in your presentation, you also talked about your capabilities on modules. So I just wanted to understand to what degree we could look at packaging still being a differentiating factor for Infineon. And then second question is on silicon carbide market share. You talk about confidence of getting to 30% by 2030. To what degree is that driven by automotive and to what degree is that driven by other areas like industrial and renewables? Many thanks.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

First of all, you got it correctly. Stellantis design win is, at this point in time, a bare die number significantly above EUR 1 billion. Next step is now to work with Stellantis, but also the tier ones on packaging solutions. It might as well be that we can increase our revenue potential by adding packaging solutions to the bare die. It's just the first step in a journey. Second question was on, c an you?

Alexander Duval
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

On the 30% target.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

The 30% target. Yeah. We will go for all the end markets. For sure automotive. Again, as I said, the highly attractive industrial space, we will not leave aside.

Alexander Duval
VP and Senior Equity Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Many thanks.

Operator

Next question comes from Johannes Schaller of Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Johannes Schaller
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes. Good morning. I hope you can hear me. Congrats on these strong results and the outlook. I wanted to talk a little bit more about the new fab in Dresden. You've historically been a very strong advocate of pure 300-mm power fabs because the cost efficiencies there may be a bit greater than doing a mixed fab with various products. I mean, Jochen, you already said the price or the cost structure there is about 40% better than sourcing a lot of this stuff from foundries. Can you maybe help us compare the cost structure in the new Dresden fab also to your pure power 300-mm fabs and maybe to your 200-mm fabs?

I think historically you talk, for example, for the other Dresden fab, about a 20%-30% front-end cost advantage. How should we think about this new fab? Also related to that, when we think about the EUR 5 billion investment, can you maybe give us a bit of insight how much subsidies you're getting for that? Maybe from the EU, maybe from Germany, if there's anything around that you can disclose. Then as a second question, just on CSS and Cypress in general, my understanding was always you're sitting on a pretty big backlog here, and you're capacity-constrained by foundry supply. I'm a bit surprised maybe that you're not guiding for more CSS growth in 2023 as one would expect foundry supply to improve. Maybe you can help us a little bit on that. Thank you.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Good morning, Mr. Schaller. First of all, you remember correctly what I said, that keeping factories in a very homogeneous technology portfolio is an advantage. Now Dresden becomes so big that we feel that combining analog mixed signal and power discretes is possible because each of it has enough economy of scale, but the two together will also create an additional economy of scale. Your second question, if I remember correctly, how is it compared to eight-inch? Yes, you are also right in that regard. 12-inch versus eight-inch is roughly 20% to 30%, but more tendency for analog mixed signal as it has more layers than power discretes. The third question was with respect to the funding.

Here I ask you for your understanding. We are in very good discussions with the Ministry of Economics and the Chancellery in Berlin and also with the corresponding politicians in Brussels. We feel that we will get very good support, but at this point in time, I would not like to disclose any number on the funding, which will be mainly provided by the European Chips Act. On the CSS, I asked Sven to take it on.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, Mr. Schaller. Thank you. Spot on, i ndeed, it's a slightly reduced number compared to the Capital Markets Day last year. There are a couple of factors which drove us to this assumption. Firstly, CSS, as you have seen, grew by 30% in the last year. The starting point is much higher than we anticipated, number one. Number two is CSS, yes, is Cypress, but there's also half of the Infineon legacy business, which we always need to take into consideration. Some of the foundry leasing, which we also start to be seeing, only translate over time into revenue, so it's more in the outer years, and this is a CAGR over some years. This also needs to be taken into the equation.

On the short term, we have this consumer-related weakness which we have also factored in. Taking all that together, these were the reasons for bringing CSS to around 10% growth.

Johannes Schaller
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Next question comes from Sandeep Deshpande of J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open.

Sandeep Deshpande
Head of European Technology Research, J.P. Morgan

Yeah, hi, Sandeep here at J.P. Morgan. Thanks for letting me on. Two questions if I may. Looking at your new long-term guidance on margin, we noticed that your baseline is that 19%, which was the previous guidance from the company. Have you built this 25% from the ground up or from the 19%? Given where we are, I mean, there was this earlier question about the cycle, but there is also this question about where we are in terms of the currency at the has, the euro-dollar, which helps your margin quite significantly. So that's my first question regarding the bottom-up. The second question I have is regarding silicon carbide. I mean, clearly in the IGBT space, Infineon has been head and shoulders above everybody else in the market.

As we go into silicon carbide, does Infineon believe that over the next few years with these design wins, it can get itself into the kind of market position that it has had in IGBT? Or is silicon carbide intrinsically going to be a much more competitive space?

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Sven will take on the first question.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Sandeep, thank you. It is a TOM to TOM comparison. There was an old TOM 19% through the cycle, by the way, which we have achieved on average, if you look at the last years. Now it is a new target operating model through the cycle, 25%. As I have said, with a high- teens number showing the resilience in weaker market phases and a high 20s showing the potential in stronger markets like the one we have today based on the old model. In this equation, you are right. As I said in the intro, there are a couple of factors, o ne is the dollar.

If you want more details, if you take the average U.S. dollar rate, which was in the old target operating model, so to say, it depends on where it starts and stops exactly, but it's around 1.15. Now we are at 1. There is a significant contribution. Of course, it will fade out. There is this positive element for 2023. Then over time, as we are now planning with 1.00, it should fade out.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Sandeep, I take the second question on the silicon carbide. Look, I can only speak for Infineon. We are confident to get to the 30% market share. Others you need to ask themselves. All these let's say very bullish statements you need to execute. Silicon carbide is a lot about execution and it's not so easy. Let's see how it plays out. What I can tell you is the unique position of Infineon is that we command all three materials, silicon carbide, gallium nitride, and silicon, and even more so, we are the leader in power systems. That's our defendable market position. Here I would like to highlight or to get your attention in that regard.

It's not now about a couple of percentage points left and right on silicon carbide alone.

Sandeep Deshpande
Head of European Technology Research, J.P. Morgan

Thank you.

Operator

Next questioner is Didier Scemama from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Didier Scemama
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Hello there. Can you hear me? Hello? Yeah, two questions if I may. Can you hear me?

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yes.

Operator

We can hear you.

Didier Scemama
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, sorry. Yeah, brilliant. Thanks for the presentation. I have a couple of questions. First of all, on your 2023 guide on segment results, obviously, you alluded to some caution based on your forecast for the second half. I just wondered how that reconciled with your pricing improving in Fiscal Year 2023 and your aggressive CapEx. How does that work? Why are you increasing capacity if you assume that the second half will be lower? Then secondly, I also wanted to ask you about your 2025 targets. You previously mentioned that your target for sales was around EUR 16 billion. Looks like you're going to do that just this year. Do you have a new target for 2025, or should we assume just 10% plus from 2022? Thank you.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Okay. Didier, I can take them right away. The answer to your second question is please take our 10% plus or greater than 10% as the base, so we are not guiding for a new number. You are right, the growth in the Fiscal 2022 was so strong that we are much advanced compared to the revenue target, which we have announced a year ago. Now, on 2023, as I've said in the intro, there are these puts and takes. There are pieces which are very strong, which are in allocation. There are pieces which are weaker, as we have said, for example, on the PSS segment. If you now take all these pieces together, there are puts and takes. You have positive impacts from higher revenue, so fall through to the margin.

You have the positive U.S. dollar contribution, as I also said in my answer to Sandeep, where in comparison to last year, it's a $0.08 tailwind. We have positive pricing. As we previously stated, there have been pricing initiatives where there is still some pricing adjustments coming in this year. On the flip side, there are higher underutilization costs, which we expect g iven that we have planned for higher capacities than EUR 15.5 billion. There is a higher wage inflation, and there is also the energy contribution. We are forecasting roughly EUR 200 million of higher energy costs for this year compared to last year. Taking all this together, this brings us then on the revenue line to the EUR 15.5 billion and to the 24%.

I think it's a prudent assessment in the current market. Can it change? Yes. I would say the longer we go into this year, the more visibility we will have.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Maybe Rutger adds on to the CapEx budget. Where do we spend EUR 3 billion on next year or this year?

Rutger Wijburg
COO, Infineon Technologies

If you look at the CapEx budget that we spent, let's say a part is for the, let's say long-term drivers for the buildings like explained by Sven and Jochen, and a part is for specific capacities where we see strong growth in renewables and also in electrification. We are focusing our CapEx where we see this growth going on, and then we are also preparing for the longer-term growth with, let's say, preparing the major buildings.

Didier Scemama
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Bank of America

No, brilliant. I mean, that's clearly a much, you know, much welcome upgrade to your Fiscal Year 2023 and longer-term margin targets. Maybe a quick follow-up, if I may: Can you tell us a little bit what your assumption is in terms of foundry prices baked in your gross margin guidance? Give us a sense. Do you assume prices to be up a lot or flattish? Just so that we understand the sort of puts and takes in that.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. The foundry world is currently also seeing some signs of softening related to computing, consumer and smartphones. We do see areas where, let's say, market pricing or at least add-ons we needed to pay for spot wafers are coming down to zero. Other areas are still tight, but overall, I would say it's in terms of tendency it goes towards normalization. However, situation down the road years to come might tighten again, and that's why this 130-nm capacity expansion for us in Dresden is so important because it's really those P2S components which we have designed and introduced to the market so successfully over the last years.

We really need to make sure that we have here a competitive capacity in place and in order to play our P2S cards as effectively as possible.

Didier Scemama
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Bank of America

Thank you and congratulations.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Thank you.

Operator

Next in the line is Matt Ramsay from Cowen. It's your turn.

Matt Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you very much. Good morning and thank you for the great presentation. For my first question, our team has spent a lot of time on the silicon carbide market, not just with yourselves and ST in Europe, but with ON and Wolfspeed and the other players in the U.S. As that momentum in silicon carbide, at least in the investment community has continued to ramp, I think we've felt a bit of investor pushback that silicon carbide was going to maybe displace or mute the growth or maybe even cannibalize some of the IGBT growth for your company, and I personally don't agree with that assessment, but it's an investor pushback that my team gets.

If the team would be willing to spend a little bit of time about talking through the IGBT growth story and also the competitive landscape. It seems like there's a ton of folks investing in silicon carbide, and that's going to get quite competitive. In the IGBT power space, it seems like Infineon's leadership is pretty steadfast. It would be really helpful just to hear how you're thinking about the IGBT franchise growing over the period that you're modeling in the long-term forecast. That would be really helpful. Then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Sure. Matt, let me take that question. We firmly believe that the three technologies will coexist, and there are good reasons why. For example, an onboard charger is today on silicon, tomorrow on silicon carbide, and the day after on gallium nitride. I think the one page we showed before summarizes all of that. There are also clearly markets like wind drives, major home appliances, and so on, which do not require fast switching, and therefore, IGBT is the perfect solution. Maybe let me also hint into another direction. In case there is not enough silicon carbide available in the market, customers might rather take a bit less efficiency or less range and just still get the system out. In that sense, also IGBT has a very strategic aspect to it.

We clearly believe that silicon carbide will take over the lead in those applications, which I mentioned, being inverters, being on-board charging, and solar, and there is a lot of growth in front of us. Again, as I said to a previous question, you have to execute all on this silicon carbide ramp, and let's see who in the market will ultimately execute. Also to say very clearly, IGBT innovation is not over. We still have good ideas, so some comparisons between wide bandgap and silicon are maybe also false because assumption on progress on silicon is not correct. We will play all three cards with full steam.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Matt, if I may just say.

Matt Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thanks.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

For you and for all the others, thank you for dialing in at that hour. It's very.

Matt Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Some of the new metrics you gave around the euro-dollar FX rate. If you just do the math, I think maybe 5.5% of that growth comes from currency and maybe the other 3.5% from units and volume and pricing. I mean, that seems pretty palatable, 3.5% volume and pricing growth relative to the economy that's out there and all the different things that are going on. If you could kind of walk us through how you're seeing growth FX versus units versus pricing in the 2023 Fiscal model, that would be really helpful. Thank you, guys.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Matt, the first one is currency. Looking at the new rule of thumb, EUR 0.8 cents, that translates into EUR 800 million, so you are already at 15. The remaining part from 15 to 15.5, that is a combination of both price, as we said from previous price agreements, which kick in in 2023, and volume. I cannot go more into the details. The 500 are a combination of both, and let's see during the course of the year how the two factors will play out then if we have more visibility in the next quarters.

Matt Ramsay
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you very much, guys.

Operator

Next question comes from Andrew Gardiner from Citi. Your line is open. Okay, we apparently have some technical issues. Sorry. We continue with the next one. That's Adithya Metuku from Credit Suisse.

Adithya Metuku
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Hello, can you hear me?

Operator

Yes, l oud and clear.

Adithya Metuku
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for taking my questions. Firstly, just a quick clarification on a previous question. It sounded like you're planning to deliver on the target operating model regardless of where the FX rate ends up. Is that understanding correct? I've got two questions. Yeah, if you could answer that first, please.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Sven will take.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. The TOM through this cycle is based on the assumption of a euro-dollar, because that's the most important currency pair for us of one. If we are around one, everything remains unchanged. There's of course a huge shift either to the downside or to the upside we may need to consider, but one is the basis for the target operating model.

Adithya Metuku
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Got it. Thank you. Just on the new operating model, I just wondered if you could talk a bit about what pricing assumptions you're assuming beyond fiscal year 2023. You know, are you assuming that we go back to low single-digit declines? Any color around that would be helpful. Then, on the 300 millimeter share today, could you give us the numbers and where you expect that to get to over time? Finally, just a quick thing on the short term. I just wondered if you could talk a bit about the gross margin and OpEx assumptions as we go through the four quarters of the coming year. Thank you.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Okay. Pricing, Andreas will take. Rutger on 300, and the numbers, Sven, please.

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, regarding pricing, a couple of factors are kicking in. Point number one, there continues to be a lot of tailwind going forward with regards to structural growth and growth drivers for the markets we're in, digitalization and decarbonization. That's a positive momentum created and a second point, also our product to system strategy is getting a lot of traction. We see that right now, and we see that the additional value that we are creating for our customers, we are in a position to so to say translate back, capture and translate back then also into our P&L. Having said that, we believe that going forward the entire topic of long-term pricing, the tendency will be pretty strong. However, we are not blind.

There are market dynamics in particular in the consumer segment, such as related to commoditized or very commoditized consumer MOSFETs. In that area, we believe that short to medium term, there might be then also a headwind coming towards us. Net, so we believe that out of the overall company position, we're in a very good position to kind of create further value to our customers and extract it back into the P&L. That is factored into the long-term prognosis.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah. Yeah, Adi, let me come back to how much of the future development will go to 300 mm. You're right. We are investing heavily in 300 mm because of the competitiveness of this node. If you now look with the expansions of Villach, with the expansion of Dresden, actually we see that I would say in the coming years over 2/3 of our capacity goes to 300 mm. With the Dresden addition, actually we go even beyond that. I would say that the majority of our products in the future will be built on 300 mm.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Okay. Adi, I take your gross margin and OpEx question.

Gross margin, and I'm talking here adjusted gross margin, it was about 45% at Fiscal 2022. I expect that to be at that flight level for 2023, given the puts and takes I've just described. On OpEx, we came out with a reported number, 23.5% OpEx to sales ratio in Fiscal 2022. This should come down over time, given what I described earlier in this OpEx scaling model. We're looking at digitalization and scale. We will allow for a reduced OpEx growth in future. This takes time, and it heavily depends, of course, also on the exact revenue number we will be targeting.

For modeling purposes, I would now just say, please take the 45% as a gross margin, maybe a slightly reduced OpEx ratio for the year for the quarters to come in fiscal 2023. We will of course update in the next quarterly earnings calls.

Adithya Metuku
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. Thank you, Sven. Maybe if I could briefly just on the 300 millimeter today. Where is that share today in terms of internal manufacturing?

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

Adi, the number today is, I would say, about 50%, 40%, 50%. Like I say, we are growing that, and then it will go up. Today, 50%.

Adithya Metuku
Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Operator

Next question comes from Stéphane Houri, Oddo BHF. Your line is now open.

Stéphane Houri
Head of Equity Research, ODDO BHF

Yes. Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. So the first one is about your order book. I know you don't give any more details about the book-to-bills and the dynamic. Could you maybe elaborate on a little bit on what's happening behind you know in terms of booking? Do you have a lot of cancellations in the segments where it's weakening and things like that would be very interesting for us. That's my first question. I had a follow-up.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, Stéphane, Sven here. I start, and then I pass it on to Andreas. The order book or order backlog, as we call it, is now around EUR 43 billion. If you look at the nominal amount, it has gone up slightly compared to the previous quarter. If you take price and currency out because that positively impacts the order book, there is a slight decline. I would say around EUR 40 billion is probably the comparable number. There is a slight decline, but we said it now for quarters. We would love to see that number coming down to more normal levels, so that's not a bad sign at all. For the other part of the question, I hand over to Andreas.

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

Talking about the consumer market to get started with that one. Here definitely we see the market trending southwards. To give a couple of examples, market for smartphones, for instance, is pretty much consolidating while we are speaking in terms of consumer demand has been slipping. But also consumer items such as video consoles on the one hand side or TV sets on the other hand side is pretty weak-ish while we are speaking. Talking about consumer computing as another segment where we are heavily engaged. Here the picture is more differentiated, if you will. Consumer computers pretty much down.

Enterprise servers on the other hand, as well are weakening, while hyperscale servers that are supporting cloud computing at scale are pretty much robust with regards to demand and also demand outlooks. Just recently I had the pleasure to talk to two major data center operators located at the West Coast, and there is, while we speak, no tendency for those guys to see reductions on their CapEx plans. On the other hand then, quite positive as mentioned by Jochen and Sven already in the previous part of the presentation, areas such as the renewable energy sector as well as then also the electric car and the automotive autonomous driving car, pretty much strong. Here we see continuous demand also forward-looking with regards to markets remaining very much robust.

Stéphane Houri
Head of Equity Research, ODDO BHF

Okay, thank you very much. The second question is about silicon carbide, because as you are adding new contracts, you know, you're probably one of the only player who has not integrated vertically the manufacturing chain and you are using your Cold Split technology. Do you think you will have to review that or do you think you have enough supply to meet your contracts?

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, Stéphane, I take the question. We feel comfortable we will line up one or two more boule and wafer suppliers over the next months. I would guess that next year there will be also the first Chinese supplier among our supplier landscape.

Stéphane Houri
Head of Equity Research, ODDO BHF

Okay, you're not anticipating to review your vertical integration strategy?

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

No. We believe that the merchant market will emerge and then commoditize, and therefore, we do not feel that it ultimately creates shareholder value in investing into crystal growth for us.

Stéphane Houri
Head of Equity Research, ODDO BHF

Thank you very much.

Operator

We now take the questions from Andrew Gardiner from Citi, who mailed us two questions on Fiscal Year 2023 and pricing value strategy. First question is on Fiscal Year 2023. Your backlog clearly points to you being able to ship everything you make, but also acknowledge macro factors. Can you highlight by how much you have haircut the stated customer demand per orders into your EUR 15.5 billion revenue?

Andreas Urschitz
Chief Marketing Officer, Infineon Technologies

Maybe I take that question. Besides some areas of smartphone-related capacity, our anticipation for the fiscal year is that we are fully loaded. Of course, on the foundry side, we will need to see what supply we get, and we can easily match demand. It's very much still a picture which is derived out of supply, except some pockets, like I mentioned. We still believe that, as Sven pointed out, that in those EUR 40 billion backlog, there are double orders. We feel that this number will calm down, come down, and that's healthy. Again, in computing, consumer, smartphones, allocation has certainly ended.

We see weakening markets, whereas renewables, auto, hyperscaler, as mentioned before, strong demand outstripping our possibility to supply.

Operator

Thanks. Second question, you commented on customer value instead of production cost as basis of pricing will help us to capture a fair share of value created. This is the biggest part of the through-cycle margin uplift. How does that play out across divisions, and what has that been the response from customers? In other words, trajectory of profitability across segments. Let me finish with thank you, great presentation today.

Rutger Wijburg
COO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, thank you very much for the flowers, first. Second point, with regards to value-based pricing going forward. Look, the fundamental or one of the fundamentals of Infineon strategies is to go from product thinking towards system understanding. On eye level, sit with customers in selected, what we call focus or core applications, and have debate on where can Infineon put more to the table by combination out of power devices, sensors, microcontrollers, connectivity, or even memory parts, and coupled with some software, bring solution on the table. Such kind of, if you will, system or solution offerings, definitely, our customers are appreciating a lot.

We see that already in the here and now and manage to convey, so to say, this value proposition that we are creating out of the combination of many competencies we put to the table into a pricing that is, so to say, margin accretive, in the here and now already, and then also in the planning going forward. Having said that, a major assumption for our profitability considerations and target operating model, for sure is this factor and the continuation of this factor, value-based pricing.

Maybe even coupled with capacity reservation agreements with this, which is another aspect of creating customer value and extract it back into the P&L.

Operator

Okay, next question comes from Janardan Menon from Jefferies. Your line is now open. You're still on mute.

Janardan Menon
Managing Director, Jefferies

Sorry. Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking the question, and congratulations on a great set of results, and the increased guidance. My question is actually, first question is on the timing of the new sort of framework of profitability. You know, when do you expect to achieve that? I mean, it does that clock start from FY 2023, or is this an aspiration where you have to get your OpEx into order and the P2S thing into the entire P2S strategy into place, and is that something which you would achieve, say in the next upswing, in the next cycle?

If it is already starting from FY 2023, then, you know, how should we think about your own expectations of margins into FY 2024- 2025, given that you're guiding at 24%? Can we expect, you know, profitability as you see it today to be in excess of 25% into FY 2024, 2025? That's sort of my first question, and then I have a follow-up.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Yeah, Janardan, thank you. I take this question. I think it would be unrealistic to just say it was 19, now we switch and it's 25. Yes, there will be some period of time where we need to come into the new model. If you look at the different levers which we have identified, and I think you heard from my colleagues already some comments where we stand. There are certain things which are already in the bank, so to say, but there are many others still to come. It's something where we are now gradually moving in. Yes, it starts now, and Fiscal 2023 is the first year of the new period. We have explicitly said it's a through the cycle model. We are not guiding to a year.

You can assume we call it long-term financial targets. It is something which is not realistic to be achieved in a very short period of time. It should remain the guidance for the next years to come.

Janardan Menon
Managing Director, Jefferies

Can we read anything from that into FY 2024- 2025? Or is it too early to be extrapolating anything from what you've said today into those years?

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

I think what you can read in is, of course, that we are strongly committing to a 10% growth number. This year, or at least as of today, we are only guiding for 9%, including currency. You have some indication of how we look at the outer years to come. I think we said it's not without challenges to guide for 2023. Please accept that I'm not guiding for 2024 or 2025 now.

Janardan Menon
Managing Director, Jefferies

Understood and then just when you look at what your comments today, it would appear that IGBT is going into both EVs as well as renewables is one area where you continue to see quite a bit of tightness. In fact, your comment almost suggested that is where you're seeing more tightness than even the MCU side on the foundries. I'm just wondering how you are addressing that. Is there a significant ramp at Dresden and Villach on the IGBT side over the course of this year? Do you think you will be able to you know reach a more equilibrium situation based on your current order visibility by the end of FY 2023?

Is that likely because you don't have any, you know, other source apart from those two fabs? Is that likely to be a continued source of tightness? And lastly, in fact, if you could just give us the exact numbers on the XEV and the silicon carbide revenue for last year, that would be extremely useful. Thanks.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Maybe I take the first part. We hinted at that, as you always ask, when is allocation ending? You got it right, that on the MCU side, some pockets will remain tight going into 2023 for sure. On the other hand, other markets of the foundries are weakening and therefore we expect some movement. When it comes to power semiconductors, of course, it all depends on the market and on our competitors also to ship. Part of the reason why we keep the CapEx budget also on a high level is that we keep on investing into IGBTs in our Villach and in our Dresden facility.

Anticipation is that we will see now two big end markets, being e-mobility, being renewables momentum, and likelihood that that plays out in addition with the silicon carbide ramp easily and without any constraints is in my mind and from my experience not that likely. We are doing everything to serve our customers. We keep on investing into exactly those technologies to avoid constraints. What I see in the market is potentially hinting rather to constraints.

The second part, Sven will take.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

On the two numbers you were asking for. On XEV, we passed the EUR 1 billion revenue number in 2022. If you look at it as e-mobility, as Jochen was explaining in the five key allocations, which drive our growth, where you, for example, add also the PSS onboard charger part, we easily are above EUR 1 billion. On the silicon carbide revenue, we came out with close to EUR 300 million revenues in 2022.

Janardan Menon
Managing Director, Jefferies

Do you have a GaN number as well by any chance?

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Our GaN is a low double-digit number still, but highest CAGR, highest growth rate by far.

Janardan Menon
Managing Director, Jefferies

Thank you very much.

Operator

We take one last and hopefully short question from Aleksander Peterc from SocGen. Your line is open.

Aleksander Peterc
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Societe Generale

Yes, good morning, and thank you for squeezing me in. I just have two quick questions I hope. The first one is on your underutilization charges that seem to creep in back in the second half of the year, I suppose, and that is what is driving your full year margin guidance being below the Q1 level. Now, what I understand is the weakness being concentrated in consumer, and that's where you mostly outsource. I would assume that you then have lower outsourcing to foundries, and that would not generate the underutilization charges. I'd just like to understand which products are affected by that. I have a very quick follow-up. Thank you.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

Okay. Alec, I take this one. A quick answer. The underutilization charges in 2022 have been around EUR 150 million, only given this huge demand we saw and the revenue. Now I'm forecasting close to EUR 500 million for this year. There's a significant increase given what you just said. Yes, part of consumer and part of the consumer-related markets are outsourced, but by no means all of them. We have baked in a number of around EUR 500 million in our segment result target.

Aleksander Peterc
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Societe Generale

Thank you very much and then Just very quickly, would you be able to provide us with a guidance for your silicon carbide revenue for this year? Thank you.

Sven Schneider
CFO, Infineon Technologies

We expect that to grow significantly along the lines of the well-known CAGRs. I would say EUR 450 million could be a good number.

Aleksander Peterc
Managing Director and Senior Analyst, Societe Generale

Many thanks.

Jochen Hanebeck
CEO, Infineon Technologies

Limited only by supply, to add to that. By now it would be time to wrap up our extended, I called it a miniature Capital Markets Day in the beginning. We went to the full two-hour length. If there are still unanswered questions, please reach out to the investor relations team. Otherwise, I would like to thank very much the entire Infineon management board for the presentation and for the answers to your question. I hope this was informative and constructive. See you soon again, and have a great day.

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