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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Aug 10, 2022

Operator

Good day and welcome to the PNE AG Analyst Conference Financial Report second quarter 2022 call. Today's conference is being recorded at this time. I would like to turn the conference over to Markus Lesser. Please go ahead.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Good morning, everyone. Also from my side, sorry for this small late call. Due to some technical reasons, we had to we had some inconvenience here. Thank you for joining us today in this conference call on the results of the first half 2022. Before I start with the presentation, I would like to share with you an outline of the presentation and the procedure of today's call. As usual, I will start with an overview of the operational strategic highlights in the first half 2022. After that, I will comment on our financial figures. I will conclude my presentation with our outlook for the remainder of the year. As always, we will then open the line for the sell-side analysts only. All other participants will stay in listen-only mode as it is our company's procedures for years.

As usual, our slides that I will use can be found on our investor relations website. Having said this, I would like to draw your attention to slide three. In operational terms, we made very good progress during the first half of 2022. We have sold one wind farm in France and have completed two wind farms in Germany and one in Poland. We had projects with a capacity of 246 MW under construction at the end of the first half year. The operating performance was clearly marked by our power generation segment. Driven by the higher installed base, the improved wind yields, and the higher power prices, the total output in power generation increased significantly. This also shows that our strategy to build our own IPP portfolio is already paying off.

On the other hand, we see that the Ukraine war and COVID-19 effects lead to unstable supply chains and higher raw material prices, which result in higher costs for wind turbines and modules. This can be partly offset by higher power prices. We also made further progress regarding the expansion of our own generation portfolio. We were able to put two further wind farms in operation for our own portfolio at the end of H1. We had 261 MW in operation and around 124 MW under construction to our own portfolio. I think very remarkable is that we could grow our project pipeline significantly. Our total pipeline increased by 2,582 MWp compared to H1 of last year.

By 1,854 MWp compared to the end of quarter one, 2022. Now our pipeline of wind onshore and PV projects stands at more than 9 GWp. In addition to that, with the acquisition of KOLYA, which was finalized in July, our pipeline will grow by a further 1.8 GWp, which will push our pipeline to a total of close to 11 GWp. We see now that the investment in project development parallel to the investment in our own portfolio is paying off. Looking at the financials, I would like to highlight that we could significantly improve all financials across the board compared to last year.

Total output increased by 12% year-over-year to EUR 105.2 million, and EBITDA increased by 31% year-over-year to EUR 70.5 million. The results were mainly driven by the strong performance of the power generation segment, which was impacted by the higher installed base, the improved wind yields, and the higher power prices. In light of the strong performance, also our cash position and equity improved further. I also want to highlight that we were able to successfully place our new corporate bond with a volume of EUR 55 million at a coupon of 5% in the market in June. This gives us good visibility for our planning until 2027.

You know, we are working on Scale up 2.0, which we would like to publish in the next three to four months. Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to highlight that PNE has been included in the SDAX in June. This is a real success for us. It's an honor for us, but also shows that the hard work we put in recent years pays off. PNE's market cap crossed the EUR 1 billion mark in May, and just recently, our share price reached 16 EUR or a market cap of more than EUR 1.2 billion. This is a 78% performance since the beginning of the year and 110% year-on-year basis.

We are of course very happy with that development, and we will not stop here as we want to continue to grow our business going forward. We come to the details. The expansion of our own generation portfolio continues. If you put everything together, we're talking about 385 MW in operation or under construction. We have now 261.1 MW onshore wind projects in operation at end of H1. Think about that we have further 40 MW already permitted, which we got in the last recent weeks which went not to the tender. If you add 385 MW plus 40 MW, we talk about 420 MW we will have soon in operation or under construction.

Still now we have 123.7 MW for the portfolio under construction. This means approximately 268 GWh of green electricity produced in H1 2022, which means 173,000 tons of CO2 saved. The hidden reserves accumulated in portfolio to EUR 136.8 million in total. You see that the pipeline, which is very remarkable, as I mentioned already, for the wind pipeline, went to 6,647 MW, which is round about +1 GW on a year-on-year basis additionally. The total PV pipeline triples from 794 MWp to 2,408 MWp .

If you consider the acquisition of KOLYA, we talk now about a PV pipeline of 4.2 GWp , which means that we now have a pipeline of round about 11 GWp in July. If you look on the next page, you see that we have the growth, as I mentioned already, of the pipeline and of the development pipeline, and you see already above 1.1 GW are in permitting phase. In the markets or core markets in France and Germany, we have now 793 MW in permitting phase, which is a further increase in opposite to the in comparison to the other years before.

In Germany, we have eight wind farms under construction in the first half year, mainly for own generation portfolio, and we got new approvals of 66 MW, whereby, as I mentioned already, 40 MW are waiting for tender and planned the starting of construction this year. The increase of the further pipeline is all related to Poland and South Africa, and as you may know, we are now investing also in South Africa, furthermore, having in mind that will become a strategic market also for hydrogen business. The pipeline of PV continues further, and this, as I said, already tripled.

When you can see a PV pipeline at 1.8 MWp alone through KOLYA, but without them, even then, we had a 1.6 GWp, which we added through our own development. One GWp is for our own development for KOLYA and 800 MWp roundabout is a development for third parties. The financial figures clearly improved on a year-on-year basis. The EBITDA up to 31.4%, driven by power generation, mainly the total output up to 12.1% on a year-on-year basis. The strong increase in power generation overcompensated the decrease in project power development.

We have to consider that we have a lot of projects. We expect in terms of permitting end of year and starting of construction end of year, as well as we have sales processes to expect at the end of the year in Romania, in France and in South Africa, in Panama and United States. Therefore, we are waiting for this sales perspective. From that point of view, we are absolutely in plan in terms of the project development.

Operator

Hi, this is your lead operator. The speaker has just disconnected his line. I will reconnect him. Please allow me a moment, yeah.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Okay. Am I still in the conference?

Operator

Yes, sir. Markus is back on the line.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Okay. Hello. It's Markus Lesser speaking again. Sorry for these problems that are caused by technical problems from our provider. I'm sorry for that. Nevertheless, I think I stopped at the moment when I talked about the financial swap issues. I would like to say it again. The financial results positively impacted by the valuation of interest rate swaps, plus EUR 50.5 million in subsequent measurement of liabilities to credit institutions due to the sharp rise in interest rates in the recent months. This is according to IFRS, and you see these results in the EBT and in the net income. If you look to the balance sheet, we see an increasing balance sheet. Christopher? Okay. We see an increasing balance sheet.

In this respect, we see a liquidity. We have a very high cash position. With EUR 160 million, the equity ratio is still high, even with the increased balance sheet. We have the liabilities which are on a high level, and we have the current liabilities which we have to repay back on a corporate bond. We have to repay EUR 17.9 million related to the bond of 2018 to 2023. Maybe one step back, page before. Christopher. The project development output decreased in opposite to the last year, but it's still on a high level of EUR 71.4 million.

Due to the fact that we invested in our own portfolio and pipeline, and the project targeted for sales targeted for H2, as I mentioned already. EBITDA is minus EUR 8 million, but we think this will be changed to a very higher amount in the last quarter. The services output grows to EUR 11.4 million, but due to the fact that we expand our business in foreign countries, we had to invest in new personnel 90 people we added to our team. Therefore, we slightly decrease our EBITDA at a steady increase decreased EBITDA of EUR 3.1 million. The electricity generation output strongly increased, as I said already. Improved wind yields, higher installed base and higher power prices altogether lead to that.

Nevertheless, we have to consider that now in the summertime, we have a very low wind offer due to the weather situation. A look to the outlook for the last quarter for the fiscal year 2022. I can say, we confirm the guidance. I know there have been some rumors that we have to increase our guidance. Nevertheless, we see, we are in sales process. We are in the process of permitting and tender processes. When we get more grip on that, then we will have a look, and that's what we do steadily. If there's something coming up, you will be the first who get it on the desk. Dynamic market environment provides opportunities, but nevertheless, we have to consider the higher prices.

There are a lot of different things are ongoing. On the one hand, higher power prices. On the other hand, higher prices for wind turbines and cable works. We do a lot to secure delivery times and we already order transformer and cables for several projects in advance. We also look that we get interest rates secured, KfW loans, we secured for us for the next two years. Therefore, we do a lot to get clear conditions for us solid. We have a high volume for the core markets in Germany and France of 793 MW onshore wind, which offers a real high potential.

We are in process of the sales procedures in the United States, milestone payments for Poland, South Africa and tender in Romania 60 MWp project PV Panama. There's a lot going on and we are in a good mood that we get these sales process done in a proper way. Please have in mind that related to the milestones we have to expect not all payments directly. Again, we confirm guidance for the EBITDA and EUR 20 million-EUR 30 million. I'm open to hear your questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for question. We'll take our first question. Jan Bauer from Warburg Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Hi there. Good morning. Hope you can hear me. I've got two or three questions. First thing is about the guidance. If I simply calculate with the power prices that are indicated for the second half of the year by using future prices. The EBITDA contribution of the power generation segment should be clearly surpass your expectations you had when you made the guidance in H1. Could you elaborate a little bit on why you didn't, yeah, raise the guidance or at least narrow it down to whatever, EUR 25 million-EUR 30 million or increase it at the other end? Because in my understanding, the EBITDA contribution of the power generation segment should be a few million higher. If you assume power prices up to 500 EUR per megawatt hour in December.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is like that. It's always a guidance for the whole year and not for the half year. It is really clear that we have some sales process to finalize. On the other side, if you consider that we have above 120 MW under construction, we do the calculation internally that partly when the projects are finalized, we get payment. Third of all, well we take payment, and we have to consider that further projects, as I mentioned, 40 MW of permits we got just right now, but they are not in construction. The payments are related to construction.

Starting of construction and finalizing the project. Therefore, we expect some of this payment in the future, but it depends on tender. It depends on several issues we have to consider in this time and always in front of this. On the other side, we have the sale processes, and we are in the sale processes. As is usual, only when you have some counterparties, you can talk about a process and a project which is ready. Then we can make, and then we can consider it. COD for the project and starting of construction are the main points.

On the other side, the sales processes, and we have to get some harder reasons to grow with our guidance, for example. That's what we are waiting for. Again, we are according to plan. There's nothing where we see a disturbance.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

All right. Thank you. Second question would be, in the USA, finally, the Biden administration passed, yeah, mighty infrastructure package. Do you see any impact there already in terms of that you are in a, whatever, more or less advanced sales process for projects, it's easier to get a customer on or stuff like that?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah, first of all, it's a very good improvement. Hello? Hello?

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Hello.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Hello. Can you hear me? Sorry.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Yeah, I can. Can still hear you.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah. Okay. Thank you. This is a very good improvement. On the other side, we have to see what the states will do out of that. First of all, we see that we have not anymore the way through taxes to support renewables. We see increasing energy prices on the other side. On the other side, we have to see what is the outcome in detail. We wait for that, but we see that it runs in the right direction.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

All right. Perfect. You talked about Scale up 2.0. Can you shed a little bit light on it? Will it be primarily that you will expand your in-house portfolio by above 500 MW?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Exactly. That we are looking at what we are going to do. Do we go more to hydrogen business? In which amount? How do we invest more in our portfolio and all these questions and exactly that what we are working on. I think then you will get some answers on this until we would like to give you an outlook until 2027 then.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Perfect. One last question. You talked about that you try to pre-order some parts that are short in the market, like, you know, like inverters and stuff.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Mm.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Do you put this on your own balance sheet in terms of your working capital goes up because you hold it on your own balance sheet? Or how do you do it?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah, yeah. It costs us liquidity cash. Yeah. That's usual. On the other side, we think it is important to secure costs and secure delivery times. Yeah. Therefore, we ordered already five transformer stations and cable work for several hundred kilometers. We have frame agreements, and we want to and we intend to order higher amounts. On the other side, we are working very closely together with the wind turbine manufacturers how we can get focused on our projects. Yeah.

Jan Bauer
Equity Research Associate, Warburg Research

Okay. Thank you. That will be it.

Operator

Thank you. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll take our next question. Karsten Blumenthal from First Berlin Equity Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

Good morning, Markus. This is Karsten from First Berlin. Recently, you bought 51% stake of KOLYA, the Spanish PV developer. This is a significant addition to your PV pipeline. It is 1.8 GW and roughly 800 MW are developed for third parties. Could you elaborate on that? Who are the third parties, and how are you compensated for developing it? Will you in future also do third-party development business there? How should that evolve?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah, we see KOLYA as a strategic investment, and we took over an operating business. They already, that was their business model to also consult into third parties. In future, we don't want to have this business. This is not our core business. Our core business is to invest in our own project pipeline and to see how we can increase that. We are very happy to have these people on board who have a good track record and huge knowledge from the Spanish market.

We see Spain as a strategic market due to the fact that we see the options we have in the energy market, but as well as the politics are outlined very heavily, that they want to invest in hydrogen business as well, so that the need for green energy will increase. It's mainly driven to PV business just right now, but we look for other opportunities as well. We will see. Related to the prices, yes, we have sold KOLYA for one-digit million EUR amount with all milestones and which are related to further improvements. On the other side, the main contribution for the consulting business is related to the former owners.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

That means for this third-party business, you do the development or you do only consulting and, when the project is done, then you get a fee or how can I?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Exactly. The last point. Yeah, we develop and when it is ready, we get a fee.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

Ready is ready to build or?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Exactly.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

Okay. The government passed the Easter Package in Germany. I would like to get to know what your view is on this package for your business in Germany.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

I think they made some good efforts in this package due to the fact that they really made some requirements related to areas and how areas for wind turbines and PV parks and PV modules and plants can be secured and will be developed. We see that now in a lot of regions. The regions are working on that heavily to increase the areas for this kind of business for environment for renewable energies. Therefore, there is this. This is a very positive way. The targets are high. They mentioned. I see there are a lot of investments which have to take place to meet these targets.

I think, and hope that everybody now knows that the permitting procedures should be shortened, so that we can deliver on these targets.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

All right. Thanks for that. You have currently roughly 124 MW under construction. Seen from today, do you plan to complete these 124 MW before the end of the year? Or how many MW should go online this year of these construction activities?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

We don't think that we can finalize all projects this year. It is not planned just right now. I think in the amount of, roughly between 80 MW and 90 MW will be finalized this year, round about.

Karsten Blumenthal
Equity Analyst, First Berlin Equity Research

Perfect. Thank you very much for taking my questions.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Thank you, Karsten.

Operator

Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll take our next question. Peter Rothenaicher from Baader Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Yes, hello, Mr. Lesser. Could you please comment a little bit on the pricing development you are seeing in your electricity generation segment? We are hearing about exploding electricity prices. To what extent do you expect to benefit from this in the second half of the year? To what extent your prices are fixed via PPA agreements? Yeah. Can you comment on this, please?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah. First of all, to your last question, we made a mixture and looked that we can get long-lasting contracts. On the other side, the prices, short tariffs are very high. We think it is important that we secure it for longer frame. You can say roundabout 60% of our megawatts are now secured in tariffs for 2023 and roundabout 40%-50% in 2024. Therefore, it is a situation where we think it is a good mixture of getting advantage from the actual situation in the energy price market and additionally to secure high prices for a longer run. In this respect, we see still high prices also this year.

Nevertheless, you know, this is a volatile market in the moment. From that point of view, we see different prognosis. Nevertheless, I think this year it will be still high. How we see it in the longer run, we will see. There are different expectations, as I mentioned before. From that point of view, it is the best to secure higher prices for a longer run, as we think. In a wider view, we are very happy that we can build on this stable business. Nevertheless, we see just right now in the last three months that we have low wind yield to consider.

Therefore, it is not like that that we can say it is always at 100%, we are much lower. Whereby in the first month of this year, we had a higher wind yield situation. We had been at 100%. We will see what the last recent months will bring us. If you look out of the window here in Germany, you will see a well sunny area and but not very windy. We will see what we will get.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Okay. With that, could you perhaps agree that with the agreement you have taken by securing high prices, the average price for electricity you will benefit from in 2023 is even higher than in 2022?

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

No, it's like usual. If you go to the spot market prices.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Mm-hmm.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

They are higher if you secure it for two or three years, the price.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Okay.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Because it's an average price of all of the expectations in the next years and they're expecting in the next years lower prices as we have just right now.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Okay. Thank you.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

In their prognosis. Yeah.

Peter Rothenaicher
Equity Analyst, Baader Bank

Yeah. True.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Nobody knows at the moment. Thank you.

Operator

Again, press star one to ask a question. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Markus Lesser, I would like to turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Markus Lesser
CEO, PNE AG

Yeah. Again, sorry for the technical problems we had. Thank you for the interest in PNE AG, and I wish you a very good day.

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