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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

May 8, 2019

Juliana Baron
Investor Relations, OSRAM Licht

Thank you operator. Good afternoon and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. A very warm welcome to the OSRAM conference call on our second quarter 2019 results. With me are Dr. Olaf Berlien, our CEO, and Ingo Bank, our CFO, as well as Dr. Stefan Kampmann, our CTO. Olaf and Ingo will comment on the market development and our financial performance and will be available for Q&A afterwards. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. You can follow the webcast on our website at osram.com/ir, where you will also find the slides available for download. Regarding forward-looking statements, I would like to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement on page two of the management presentation. With that, I am pleased to hand over to Olaf now.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah, thank you, Juliana. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and maybe good morning to the U.S. colleagues. Welcome to our conference call. Let me start with an overview of the second quarter of our fiscal year. Ingo will provide you with more details on the financial figures and, of course, we are looking forward to your Q&A sessions. We move to slide number three. Our performance in the second quarter was as expected. We continued to face a challenging environment in the first three months of the calendar year 2019. Continued market weakness in automotive, general lighting and mobile devices clearly impacted OSRAM. In addition, business was facing the ongoing impact of the general economic slowdown and of course, political uncertainties. This has affected demand and led to inventory build-ups, especially in China. We respond systematically to the operational challenges, we are coming to that.

Our performance programs are in place and running at full speed. This gives us confidence for the rest of the year, and we confirm our adjusted full-year targets. Let's have a closer look at the second quarter results on slide number four. In the period from January to March, revenue declined by 13.5% on a comparable basis of EUR 862 million. Adjusted EBITDA before special items was EUR 70 million, resulting in a margin of 8.1%. Free cash flow was mainly impacted by CapEx and of course of inventory. It amounted better than last year, but to minus EUR 76 million. The managing board is taking action and announced in March that we have expanded our various initiatives to reduce our annual cost base. We now expect savings of more than EUR 200 million by 2021.

I will come to this later on slide nine, Ingo will do it in a deeper way as well. Let's have first a more detailed look at the environment and especially economic environment on slide number five. The outlook for the global economy continues to decline. The ifo World Economic Climate Index fell from minus two points in the previous quarter to minus 13. This is the fourth decline in a row and the worst figure in seven years. The same trend was mirrored by the J.P. Morgan Global PMI Index. Global manufacturing expectations further slowed down, as you can see on the right. We clearly noticed this trend in our revenue development in the second quarter, as have many of our customers, particularly in the automotive industry.

If we look at slide six, we can see on the left that car production continued to decline across all regions. The biggest impact was once again in China, where car sales have been declining for 10 consecutive months. NAFTA car production has also slowed down, now making a sidestep. Consequently, IHS has reduced its forecast for global light vehicle production, as you can see from the chart on the right. Yearly production worldwide is now expected to reach less than 93 million cars in 2019, compared to 99 million back in April last year. Together with the inventories that have been built up, especially in China, as I said, that and this has hit us hard. China is our most important market, and accordingly, our China revenue year-on-year dropped by one-third in the last quarter.

This is also why we are less optimistic at this point in time regarding the second half of the fiscal year, and the main reason why we adjusted our guidance in March. As you can see on slide eight, this assumption is backed by the actual order volumes from our customers. In February, I showed you the order volume agreements for calendar year 2019, shown on the left. The majority of our automotive customers then indicated higher order volumes for 2019 compared to 2018. On the right, you can see the actual deviations of what our customers intended to order and what they have actually ordered year-to-date. As a large part of our customers fall behind their expectation order volumes, we currently see no indications for a quick recovery. This takes me to slide nine. The managing board has responded actively to this situation.

We have stepped up our efforts to cut costs. Our various performance initiatives are now expected to reduce the annual cost base by more than EUR 200 million by fiscal year 2021. On the slide, you can see our operational programs, which we report to you on a regular basis. Overall, execution is on track, and I want to highlight our performance programs to reduce headcount and global footprint. Our Fit for the Future initiatives at Opto, for example, that we announced last time, takes effect already. The targeted worldwide headcount reduction has already been implemented by 80%. At this point, one comment about the talks with Bain and Carlyle, which you are probably most interested in. In February, we announced that management was in a detailed discussion with Bain and Carlyle about the possible takeover of OSRAM. This discussion and the due diligence process is still ongoing.

As communicated from the beginning, it remains open whether an agreement will be reached. The managing board is conducting the discussions on the interests of the company, and thus of the shareholders, employees, and other stakeholders such as business partners and customers. Please understand that we cannot comment in more detail at this point in time as the talks are ongoing. We will inform the capital market and the public in due course. Let me summarize, ladies and gentlemen. While market weakness and political uncertainties continue, we have actively taken countermeasures. We are addressing our cost structures consequently. Our medium and long-term strategy is clear intact despite the current challenges. We are pushing ahead with our photonic strategy and continue to evolve in a high-tech company with a clear vision of the digital future. That's on my side. Thank you very much.

Now I would like to hand over to Ingo.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Hello, also from my side. Thank you for joining the earnings call today. Let me go right into the numbers for OSRAM continued operation summarized on page nine. Revenue growth continued to be very challenged in all business units, turning comparable growth to be a negative 13.5% for the company, as markets for automotive and general lighting continued to show weakness. Our business in China faced further declines in the second quarter, particularly for all segments in Opto, as well as our traditional automotive business as well. Meaningful recovery for our business in China is not visible at this point in time. Adjusted EBITDA came in at EUR 70 million or 8.1% of revenue below last year. The volume decline in combination with price erosion could not be offset by cost productivity.

The high operating leverages in Opto, but also in traditional automotive, were the clear driving forces accounting for the drop in our adjusted EBITDA margin year-over-year. Special items were at EUR 59 million, largely driven by the structural cost measures currently being implemented at Opto. Free cash flow was negative with EUR 76 million. CapEx was EUR 61 million. For the year, we expect CapEx spend to be between EUR 220 million-EUR 240 million, of which more than 70% has been spent year-to-date March. Net income for the quarter was negative with EUR 91 million, including an impairment of approximately EUR 40 million at Digital Systems and a loss to the tune of EUR 6 million for discontinued operations. Let's now take a closer look into our revenue development in the second quarter on slide 10.

The impact of foreign exchange as well as the additions to the business portfolio of OSRAM made a slight positive impact on revenue growth. Particularly the acquisition of Fluence contributed well to the revenue generation as part of our digital reporting segment. Topline growth continued to be challenged in all regions. EMEA growth was impacted by ongoing weakness in our automotive business, both for traditional as well as LED light sources. In NAFTA, growth for automotive LED components was positive year-over-year, but could not offset negative growth in automotive traditional light sources and a strong revenue decline in our Digital Systems business as part of DI. In APAC, China continued to be a challenging market environment. For the company, revenue growth in China declined close to a third when compared to prior year.

At the same time, also representing a further sequential decrease when comparing to first quarter of this fiscal year. As a reminder, China represents approximately 20% of the overall company's revenue. One positive highlight in China for us was Traxon, that managed to grow the business in double-digit territory, both year-over-year as well as sequentially. The impact of IFRS 15 in the quarter was at approximately 0.6%. Moving on to profitability on slide 11. In Q2 of 2019, absolute adjusted EBITDA was EUR 70 million, translating into 8.1% in margin terms. The drop in revenue, and with it, the drop in overall volumes, took a significant toll on our profitability, largely a reflection of the operating leverage effects in our Opto Semiconductors and traditional Automotive business. In addition, we reduced our inventory levels further due to the market outlook, creating additional negative effects of missing cost absorption.

This is particularly true for Opto, where the impact of inventory reductions compared to the same period in the prior year represent more than 30% of the volume digression impact shown here in the bridge. The pricing environment in the quarter overall was largely as expected, yet elevated for Opto when compared to a year ago. Foreign exchange had a positive impact for Opto. Savings from our performance programs amount to approximately EUR 24 million in the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA and corporate items for OSRAM continued operations was negative with EUR 22 million, in line with our expectations. Moving now to slide 12. Before I go into the financial details of our reporting segments, let me provide you with an update of our performance programs. As communicated, we have increased our savings targets from our performance programs to be above EUR 200 million by 2021.

This increase is related to further structural measures taken at Opto to also reflect the significant volume declines, combined with limited business visibility at this point in time. The targeted saving areas are unchanged: overheads and our industrial footprints. For fiscal year 2019, we're now targeting gross savings of between EUR 85 million-EUR 95 million, up from the earlier communicated ambition of EUR 65 million-EUR 85 million. Approximately 40% of these savings have been realized fiscal year to date. Our expectation as to the transformation-related charges for this fiscal year has not changed. Out of the EUR 80 million-EUR 90 million anticipated for fiscal year 2019, approximately 80% have been occurred fiscal year to date. I'm going to summarize now our Q2 performance for the business segments on slide 13. Let me start with Opto. Opto's revenue decline continued into the second quarter.

Lower volume and pricing drove the reduction of 18.8%, with volume carrying a slightly higher share than pricing. Biggest contributor to the absolute year-over-year reduction in revenue for Opto was recorded in the Industrial & Medical segment. This was by and large driven by its distributor business, covering a rather broad and diverse portfolio of applications. Distributors continue to de-stock, also given a weak Chinese market. The emitter sensor laser portfolio of IM showed a small year-over-year decline as tough comms with respect to the iris scan from fiscal year 2018 could only be partially offset by a new business in biometric sensors and 3D. Overall, however, comparable growth in IM declined significantly. In Automotive, revenue declined. Next to pricing impacts in the low double-digit range, volume declined by mid-single digits, reflecting by and large a weaker market environment in China.

The revenue decline in Automotive in the region EMEA was like for like in the mid-teens, whereas we recorded a like for like mid-single digit growth in the Americas. In Opto's general lighting business, we saw a sequential improvement in revenue generation driven by outdoor and horticulture demands. Still, year-over-year business declined largely due to weakness in indoor lighting, reflecting a weak Chinese market and de-stocking efforts in the industrial supply chains. Market price pressure remained elevated, particularly in China. The combination of overall strong volume decline, price erosion, and a lower inventory build when compared to prior year's quarter reduced Opto's adjusted EBITDA profitability to 14.6% in the quarter. The year-over-year impact on profitability from negative cost absorption effects due to lower inventories in the quarter was close to five percentage points.

As mentioned, we put additional structural measures for Opto Semiconductors in place to actively manage in an environment of limited forward visibility. For those measures, we took a restructuring accrual in the second quarter of approximately EUR 44 million. We do expect savings for these measures to be between EUR 30 million to EUR 40 million within this current fiscal year. Moving to our segment Automotive, or AM. Comparable growth was negative with 10.6% in the quarter. Volume continued to decline, particularly in China and Europe, both for the traditional as well as the LED business. The aftermarket business was in line with expectations. AM's adjusted EBITDA profitability was 9.7% in the quarter. The decline in margin compared to the same period a year ago was largely a reflection of lower volumes and the corresponding operating leverage impact. Price erosion and inflation were compensated by productivity measures.

The inclusion of the Osram Continental financials in Automotive had a dilutive effect of approximately 200 basis points. Looking into our third reporting segment now. DI managed to slow down the revenue decline when compared to the first quarter of this fiscal year, with close to all of its underlying businesses contributing to a sequential improvement in absolute revenue generation. Still, comparable growth was negative with 8.5% when comparing with the same period a year ago. The decline was largely driven by our electronic ballasts and controls business, also known as Digital Systems or DS, where elevated customer inventory levels in the U.S., and to some extent also in EMEA, combined with a rapid decline in traditional ballasts, drove negative growth. Albeit at a slower rate when compared to the first quarter of this fiscal year.

When looking at the other business activities within DI, we saw a sequentially improved performance in our entertainment business on the back of well-received new product introductions. In our industrial portfolio, Fluence continued to perform well, whereas our projection business continued its expected decline given its stage in the technology maturity curve. DI's dynamic lighting business picked up momentum and delivered sequential growth. Year-over-year, it recorded a low single-digit decline. DI's adjusted EBITDA stayed negative at EUR 4 million, yet improved from the first quarter of this fiscal year. Compared to the prior year, the reduction in profitability was largely driven by comparatively lower revenues in Digital Systems and the corresponding volume regression impact, including the impact of lower plant utilization rates. Pricing and inflation were offset successfully by productivity measures. Moving now to cash flow on slide 14.

Free cash flow was negative with EUR 76 million, including CapEx spend of EUR 61 million. More than 70% of such spend related to Opto. The reduction in trade payables was mainly related to Opto, among others, due to lower purchase volume given the reduced business activity levels and less capital expenditure spending. Net debt increased to EUR 350 million as per end of March, reflecting the negative free cash flow in the quarter and the dividend payout for fiscal year 2018. Now on slide 15, the outlook. On March 28th, we published our revised guidance for fiscal year 2019 that you see again summarized here. This outlook for fiscal year 2019 reflects on the one hand, a second quarter below original expectations.

It also reflects the lack of substantial improvement in business activity, factoring in the absence of a revival of our order intake during the course of the second quarter. The guidance implies no meaningful recovery or improvement in the second half of the year, but rather a stabilization of what is currently still a business environment with very limited visibility. Juliana, now back to you.

Juliana Baron
Investor Relations, OSRAM Licht

Thank you, Ingo. We are now looking forward to your questions. Operator, please go ahead.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star followed by one on their touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your question from the queue, you may press star followed by two. If you are using speaker equipment today, please lift the handset before making your selection. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to two questions only. Anyone who has a question may press star followed by one at this time. One moment for the first question, please. First question comes from the line of Sven Weyers with UBS. Please go ahead.

Sven Weyers
Analyst, UBS

Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. The first question would be related to your revenue decline in the first half and the mid-teens organically. I was just wondering if you had an estimate how much of that was related to your clients' de-stocking, and how much of it was really the weakness in the end customer demand. That would be the first one. Thank you.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Thanks, Sven. I think Ingo will do this.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Well, it's always a bit difficult to do an estimate there. We saw de-stocking in the general lighting business, particularly in China. We also saw some de-stocking with distributors. I would quantify that type of destocking impact that we expect for the year, which indeed took place mostly probably in the first half, somewhere between EUR 30 million to EUR 40 million. Mm-hmm. As you just said, you think it's largely concluded now, yeah? Well, I wouldn't call it completely concluded now, because we've seen people coming down with their stock levels. In some areas, they're still a bit higher than they normally are, also compared to prior years. There's still a chance that some destocking will still take place.

I think what's also more important then is, of course, what they themselves have in their point of sale and whether then they see momentum coming to restock again. That momentum we haven't seen yet. Mm-hmm. The EUR 30 million to EUR 40 million you said was on Q2 specifically or the whole first half, sorry? Oh, you asked me for the first half, so. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Good. The follow-up was just on the Bain Carlyle situation. I understand you wouldn't say anything more, but I think previously you said the discussions are going well or making good progress. Would you repeat that qualitative comment? Yes, absolutely. We have good progress. We have good discussions and yeah. Good. Thank you. I go back in line.

Operator

Next question comes from line of Peter Olofsson with Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Peter Olofsson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, good afternoon. I had a question on automotive. On the slide seven, you also mentioned share of wallet as a key reason. I guess that dates back to 2017, when you were in allocation and some of your clients started to qualify other suppliers. Could you maybe give some idea how material the impact from changes in share of wallet is? Given the time it takes for an automotive customer to qualify a new supplier and to see a volume ramp, how likely is it that this headwind becomes even more meaningful next year or so in 2020?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah, it's a fair and good question. I think Ingo and me will answer this. I think, first of all, what we said, and that's still proven, it seems to be that we lost around between 3% and 4% market share. That happened because we are unable in 2017 to deliver what our customer wanted. At that time, they qualified a competitor. I think what we see is that we have lost around between 3% and 4% market share. The share of wallet is the same. In the current customer, we have the same share of wallet. Of course, we have sometimes a new model is coming, the share of wallet is a little less, but we don't see any issue in the share of wallet. What we clearly have is to win back the market share.

Especially for 2020, there's a clear target that we will win every year between 1% and 1.5% market share back. That's our target for the year 2019 and 2020. Ingo, anything I forgot? No, I think that answered the question.

Peter Olofsson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah, that is helpful. Maybe on general lighting, threefold question. Can you provide an update where you stand with the sale process of Siteco? Considering that DI is loss-making, are you happy with the current portfolio in DI? Could there be potential further disposals? Lastly on DI, there was around EUR 40 million goodwill impairment in DI. Can you disclose which unit within DI this relates to, and what triggered this impairment?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Okay. A lot of questions. I start with your first one was LS on Siteco. I think I said it in February, and this is still valid, that we expect to come to a final stage between April and May. We still have a clear timetable to have this final stage in May. That means I'm expecting in the next two and a half weeks, final proposals. I have a clear view which bidder could go in the last round of the M&A process. This is still on track. I'm optimistic because we still have enough bidder in the round. Second point came to DI. I think I do it shared with Ingo. First sentence is I clearly said all the time that we are looking for portfolio measurements. That is a permanent progress.

If we see that a business field or company is not achieving the agreed results, we are going immediately in a portfolio optimization process. That's what we are doing in the last years. Last year, we sold our process technology. It was a business in automotive. If we find something in DI, we will do so in the same area. Maybe, Ingo, you add something on DI and on the result and on the impairment. On the question relating to impairment, in my prepared remarks, I said that we impaired assets of goodwill in DS, Digital Systems, and the trigger for that was simply that when we had to update our guidance. We also saw a reduced outlook for DS, that is typically a trigger for an impairment test.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

As a result of that impairment test, we had to incur EUR 40 million of the goodwill that was still residing in DS from an acquisition back in 2011.

Peter Olofsson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, that's clear. Thank you.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Sandeep Deshpande with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Sandeep Deshpande
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Yeah. Hi. Thanks for letting me on. My question is, when you look at the margin guidance, adjusted EBITDA margin guidance for the full year, it does seem like second half adjusted EBITDA margin is declining second half versus first half. Can you talk us through what is happening on the adjusted EBITDA margin inventory or price pressure or any other impacts there? I have one short follow-up after that. Thanks.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Thanks, Sandeep. I think that's a great question for our CFO, Ingo. Hi, Sandeep. Stefan can do it as well, isn't it, but Ingo. If you look at the next six months, as you said, the visibility is still limited. The results year-to-date are heavily impacted by the operating leverage effect that we've seen both in traditional OEM automotive as well as LED. We now go into the summer period, more or less, where we don't know yet how long the summer furlough will be of some of the OEM manufacturers. Maybe some caution here. Against it, of course, we will have a bit of a higher run rate of savings we generate through the performance programs, where roughly 60% of what we said is expected to come into the second half.

If you take all these pluses and minuses together, we still have to see a little bit how this eventually will evolve.

Sandeep Deshpande
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you. One quick follow-up, on VCSEL. You had bought this VCSEL company last year and said that you have potential to have significant volumes somewhere in the mobile phone market this year. Can you give us an update?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Yes, I can. We have ordered and we are in current discussion with mobile companies in Asia. You know that we always had our main focus on Asian companies, mainly in China, Korea and Taiwan and Japan. We already delivered and deliver VCSEL chips to Asian companies, and we are in the process to get more, but maybe Stefan, would you like to say something about that? Maybe 2D, 3D, there's a little bit of change in the mobile industry. A lot of price pressure for mobile device companies. For this reason, it's a little bit of change from 3D to more 2D, but we are in this process as well.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

I think the rationale to buy VCSEL is still very valid and will support our business in the future. The VCSEL as a light source for all these sensing elements is according our planning in the applications which Olaf mentioned before, mainly consumer electronics, talking about smartphones. We see also more and more interest in the automotive sector for VCSEL, for interior positioning, scanning of driver and passengers. VCSEL will be regarded as an appropriate illumination source for a lot of sensing applications. That's basically the market demand from our capabilities. I think that VCSEL company is developing as we have planned. We have excellent resources in regards of engineering capacities, and we can basically follow up on all the needs which the different application fields show for the future for VCSEL as a light source for sensing applications.

Sandeep Deshpande
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Okay. Thank you.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Thanks, Sandeep.

Operator

Next question comes from line of Lucie Carrier with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my question. The first one I would have is on the OS profitability. I was hoping you could give us a little bit more granularity in terms of when we look at the drop in the margin, which is roughly going from 24.5% to roughly 14.5%. Are you able to segregate for us what has been really what I would call operating the leverage, i.e., the volume impact, what has been the inventory and what has been possibly other factors like price or cost inflation? Related to that, I think, of course, you have added a lot of fixed assets in this division over the last three years in Regensburg, in Kulim and other places.

It's a little bit difficult for us to have a sense of what is really the operating leverage or deleverage impact that you are facing on this kind of a relatively new fixed asset base. Can you help us maybe do the bridge a little bit more precisely for this division, please?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Okay. Yes. Hi, Lucie. I think maybe the best one is that Ingo and Stefan, would you like to start with this part? Yeah, sure. Hi, Lucie. If you go back to my prepared remarks, I said that the year-over-year impact on profitability from cost absorption effects around inventory is roughly five percentage points. The operating leverage of Opto at this point in time is high. Indeed, also because of the additions to the fixed asset base that we've made, with the utilization being not at the levels that we, of course, wanted it to be. At this point in time, the operating leverage is somewhere probably between 60%-65% or so. Obviously, going forward, we will work very much on trying to lower that again because it's very high at this point in time.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

That was basically this, plus price erosion, where the effect price erosion, however, if you then compare that with the productivity programs that we still have in place, was more or less compensated, but it was not possible to then also compensate for the volume regression impacts. The volume regression impact, Lucie, is on the one hand, the lack of absorption because of lower volumes, plus, in this case, the delta in inventory compared to prior year.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Ingo. 500 basis points, is it inventory and operating deleverage together, or is it solely inventory?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

It's together basically, because again, at the end of the day, it's all leverage because either you sell something or you build inventory for the sale in the next month or so. Given the volume outlook, it means that if you don't produce, you don't absorb fixed costs in your balance sheet. They run straight through your P&L. Overall, it's all basically the same topic. It just doesn't run through your sales line. That's why when you look at the revenue drop relative to the EBITDA drop, it's not really proportional. That's why we sort of mentioned the inventory reduction as well.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, because 500 basis points is about half of the effect you have. This is why I'm trying to-

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

add up. The rest is what precisely?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Well, what I said is pricing.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Against that is productivity a little bit, and then volume regression of the volume difference to last year.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. You were mentioning the capacity utilization in the factory currently is low. Are you able to give us a percentage roughly? Because, of course, I remember three years ago, it was very close to 100%. Where are we now precisely?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Lucie, I certainly could give you that number, but if you allow me, I will not, because there's many people listening to our calls, and that's an information that it's not at a level where we are able to run without underutilization.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you. My second question was around the comment you made actually. It's a follow-up on the market share and that you are aiming to win back 1%-1.5% market share per year starting next year. I'm assuming this is on the auto LED portfolio or the OS auto portfolio. Can you maybe give us a little bit more color on how you are finding that market share regained?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

I think, as I said, we lost between 3% and 4%. It is clear to the sales force, we cannot, and I cannot accept this. We have to regain with two things. First of all, I think as a technology leader, we are coming with new innovation. I do not want to do it through prices. To gain market share is easy if you reduce price, but that's not the way I would like to do it. There's a new system coming up, Matrix Headlamp, for example. We are going to our customer and promote a new technology. With this new technology, I am quite sure that we can regain our market share on the old level than we had it in 2017. I think it's not too aggressive to get 1% market share back.

Lucie Carrier
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Thank you, Lucie. Bye.

Operator

Next question comes from line of Sebastian Growe with Commerzbank. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Growe
Analyst, Commerzbank

Yes, good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. It's also a follow-up on the market share discussion we had before. Where do you stand currently after this 3%-4% market share loss? The question that I have is why shouldn't the OEMs eventually continue to balance the supplier structure further, i.e., expand really the share of wallet with other supplier accounts? Can you also comment on how pricing has developed since these share losses occurred? Would you say that it has normalized now after eventually what was the stronger price erosion in the more recent past?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah. Thanks, Sebastian. Again, I think it's not so aggressive to gain market share by 1% year-over-year on your current level. I think as a market leader in LED and in halogen, I think one of our advantages is that we can deliver to the customer both products. Again, today, still 70%-75% of all brand-new cars are equipped with halogen. If you sit with your customer together, he needs both products, and it's still a good solution to have it from one hand from OSRAM. I think that's the reason we are market share. The second point

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Why I am optimistic to gain market share is clearly that the number 2 and number 3 in the market are acting weaker. I think it's, in this situation, sometimes easier to gain market share. Your third point is that with a share of wallet, as you described, I think most of my customer had to well-balance position between my competition, second source, third source, and OSRAM. As you know, it takes a long time to qualify any supplier. As a long-time company, trusted company with less failure and good quality, I'm quite sure that we can get this 1% year-over-year additional market share. Your third question was on prices. I would say prices are normalized. I think we had, especially in a declining market, you always have more pressure on prices. It's clear.

What we expected for our planning, that we had around 8% price decline in this range, between 8%-10%, we still finished our contracts. Again, most of the contracts will be finished in December 2018 for the year 2019, so I do not expect additional price pressure for 2019.

Sebastian Growe
Analyst, Commerzbank

Okay, that's clear. Just on reserve, the share is such, are we talking 30%, give or take, or where are we currently?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

I know. I understand your question, we never gave an exact number, because competition is listening in my call. What we always said is it is in a range above 30%, that's still valid.

Sebastian Growe
Analyst, Commerzbank

Okay. If I may quickly move on to Automotive, just within the mix for what you have in terms of LED revenues, which on my numbers should be around EUR 800 million or so on an annual basis. Can you just comment on the structural outlook from here, i.e., what is happening if in, especially interior lighting, I don't know what's the topic on prior calls, is growing faster than, for example, for the headlamp lighting, how that would affect the overall profitability level at the LED part within Automotive?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

I understand your point.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Well, if I can chip in a little bit. Overall, if you look at our revenue base, the exterior part is always the major part of the automotive LED base. The margin difference between interior and exterior is there, that's correct. At the same time, also the pricing on interior is less, or the price erosion on interior is less elevated than it is on exterior. In that sense, you have some mixed impact, but also somewhat different dynamics. What is growing right now in interior is very much display technologies in that sense. It will take a while still until new functionality, RGB will go into more sophisticated lighting will come into the interior. From that perspective, yes, there's some growth, but it's very specific to display technology. The other areas, they will still need some time before they pick up pace.

Sebastian Growe
Analyst, Commerzbank

Within this display part, would you consider yourself being greatly positioned, or are simply others better off for the time being?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

I'm not sure how you would classify that. In that sense.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah, I think I would say.

maybe Olaf can classify that.

I think you have to put in your mind, in the display business, the technology's changing as well. In the former and the old technology for displays, OSRAM was and is not in. The chip size are moving, and maybe you heard about these mini LED and micro LED. In moving in this phase of the smaller chips, of course, OSRAM is in in this technology, but not in the old one.

Sebastian Growe
Analyst, Commerzbank

Okay, fair enough. Thank you.

Operator

Next question.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Okay, Sebastian.

Operator

comes from the line of Jürgen Wagner with MainFirst. Please go ahead.

Jürgen Wagner
Analyst, MainFirst

Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Actually, I have a follow-up on OSRAM, on Opto margins. What other measures are you taking in Kulim to achieve a better utilization, let's say, over the next two years, except taking back market share that you mentioned? Thank you.

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Thank you, Jürgen. I think that's a great question for Stefan. You are the technical guy.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Thank you that you put the focus on Kulim. As you know, we have planned Kulim for a certain technology, but the advantage is that the machines which we have bought, and that's normal for the semiconductors, have a high versatility. With the versatility, you can basically generate different solutions and it can support different applications. We are currently looking into sapphire-based products which basically feed the different applications. One was just mentioned, the backlighting for displays. Besides the general lighting and the automotive business, which we already talked about for Kulim. We see now also a third area of applications which will take advantage of the installed capacity. We are looking confident into the next 24 months that we will have additional business for Kulim and we can basically use the capacity which we have installed already.

Juliana Baron
Investor Relations, OSRAM Licht

Okay.

Jürgen Wagner
Analyst, MainFirst

Is that okay, Juliana?

Juliana Baron
Investor Relations, OSRAM Licht

Okay. Yeah, okay. Thank you.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Thank you.

Operator

This next question comes from the line of Leo Carrington with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Leo Carrington
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you for taking my question. Roughly small follow-up on Lucie's question. The inventory balance in June, the unchanged sequentially, slightly down, but only slightly down. Does this lead to an ongoing risk of underproduction and future under-absorption of overheads into H2? If so, is this already captured in the guidance?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Well, the inventory movement that you see is on the overall level of OSRAM. What I was talking to with Lucie was just the impact on Opto. Let's also remember that when we talk about bridges, we look at the comparison to prior year. In the prior year, in the quarter, there was an inventory build, which had a positive impact because you absorb fixed costs. In the current quarter, we had an inventory reduction, which has a lower fixed cost absorption impact. If you add the positive and the negative together, you see the total absolute difference to a year ago. That's how the bridges work, number one. Number two is that we saw indeed an inventory reduction at Opto. At the same time, inventories in DI were staying at a rather high level.

In the guidance we gave, we have assumed that that inventory level towards the DI especially will come down in the second half, which typically does. Also historically, if you go back, that's always what kind of seasonality would suggest and what the plans are. The absorption effects in digital, particularly in DS, are nowhere near comparable to Opto because DS has a completely different cost structure. The bill of material is a very significant part of DS. Of course, when we gave guidance, we also looked into our good movements for the balance of the year.

Leo Carrington
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay, thank you.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Mr. Sven Weyers of UBS. Please go ahead.

Sven Weyers
Analyst, UBS

Yes, thanks for taking the follow-ups. Those are two. The first one is because you mentioned you expect to gain share also on Matrix LED, if I understood it correctly. There was one thing I was interested, maybe that's a question for Stefan, because Hella mentioned earlier this year in terms of their market expectations that they haven't changed the LED market share assumptions, but they said they would expect it to be more with standard LED solutions, whereas more sophisticated ones. My question would be basically how you look at the longer-term LED penetration. Have you also have a different view on the structure of that, or hasn't that really changed?

Olaf Berlien
CEO, OSRAM Licht

Okay, Sven. I think great question for Stefan.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

I think if you look in front light, it's worth that we differentiate and put a little bit more detail into the subject. Because you will see on the one-hand side, innovation-driven, feature-driven solutions when we talk about increasing the resolution, to go from an adaptive front light system to what we call projection. What Olaf mentioned, the wires generation, which we are launching in the next year, generation 1, and then in the following years, generation 2, is basically increasing significantly the number of pixels to go basically versus this projection feature. On the other hand, we will see a higher penetration of LED-based front light systems with more standardized solution, and it's more likely what Hella mentioned in their comment. These applications will be fed with more standardized LEDs. We have basically a two-fold development or two-fold driven penetration of LEDs in the automotive sector.

One is feature-driven, and the other one is more, let's say, the commodity-driven, where we go into the high volume segments. This is increasing the number of LEDs overall, but this will also be, let's say, more a cost or price-driven segment. Therefore, our development strategy and our business strategy is two-fold as well. We have, on the one-hand side, an innovation-driven path, where we go for the feature where we expect basically higher margin, higher prices. We have also basically to take advantage of the penetration in the more commoditizing business, which we are supporting with the appropriate manufacturing cost basis, to keep our margin also in this segment. I think if you look into the future business of automotive headlights, you will see these two trends, and business-wise, you have to be prepared for these two approaches into the business.

Sven Weyers
Analyst, UBS

When you look at the standard segment, is it same happening as we had it maybe with the backlight, where initially you also started with more sophisticated stuff and then over time, the kind of barriers to entry came down? Because obviously there's still quite a bit of a difference on the brightness level, so I would suspect it's not that easy even on the standard solutions.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Yeah, clear. I think this business, especially in this volume, in this commoditizing business, you will be paid by photons. Also, you can take advantage of your know-how in the semiconductor business. If you can generate the same output with a smaller chip, then you have lower manufacturing costs, then you have to basically drive your margin by this innovation in the semiconductor field. It's not that it's the cheapest manufacturing and you have to go to the cheapest location. You can basically gain also advantage by cost innovation based on the semiconductor know-how, simply by getting the same number of photons from smaller chips. Get the same price because you get the same feature or you sell the same feature, but have advantage on the manufacturing cost side by using smaller chips. I think it's a normal behavior.

You will have standardized products with a commoditizing business behavior, but you still can also make your fortune out of that by driving innovations on semiconductor level.

Sven Weyers
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Thank you for that, Stefan. The other question was on the Conti JV, because I think in Q1 we already had a fairly small revenue contribution and it seems in Q2 as well. I think back then you mentioned some technical reasons for that. Is it now that you expect that for the second half that there's more meaningful revenue, or how should we look at that?

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Yes, that's exactly the expectation. We had some more delays than we had hoped for. Also with transfers of customer contracts that took a bit longer also at the customer side, it turned out to be a fairly complicated process. We've now moved a significant step further and therefore indeed we should see more revenue flowing through OSRAM in the second half. Let me also just point out, as we did in prior calls on this topic, that the economic value of that revenue still accrues to us. That means that we get a reimbursement of the corresponding margin from Conti, and that is run through the numbers of AM in our numbers.

Sven Weyers
Analyst, UBS

Okay, understood. Thank you.

Stefan Kampmann
CTO, OSRAM Licht

Thank you, Sven.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Peter Olofsson with Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Peter Olofsson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, thank you. It's for Ingo. It's on the share buyback. In January, you announced the first tranche of up to 9.5 million shares. So far you've only been buying about 1,000 shares a day. For our modeling, should we assume it remains at the current low level? Is there potential for the buyback activity to pick up?

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Well, when we commissioned the bank back in December and announced it in January, we obviously had different circumstances, because today a lot of what's happening with the OSRAM share prices is related to the speculation and rumors around Bain Carlyle. We believe as a result, the trading volume in the share buy program is at this point in time very low. It's the commission with a bank, as I said. It's a decision the bank takes, not we. We are not involved in that. I can't tell you what the future will bring, but right now we believe this is because of the rumors underlying the stock movement.

Peter Olofsson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, thank you.

Ingo Bank
CFO, OSRAM Licht

Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, due to time limitations, I hand back to Juliana Baron for closing comments.

Juliana Baron
Investor Relations, OSRAM Licht

Thank you very much for your participation. With that, we would like to conclude this conference call. If you do have further questions, please get in contact with our investor relations team. We hope you enjoy the rest of the day. Thank you and goodbye.