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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Oct 21, 2021

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this interim report session of Alma Media's third quarter 2021. I'm Elina Kukkonen, responsible of the communications and brand here at Alma. We will begin the presentation shortly. As usual, our CEO, Mr. Kai Telanne, will go first. He will present the overall results of the third quarter and also the development by segments. After Kai's part of the presentation, our CFO, Mr. Juha Nuutinen, will come on stage and he will go through the financial position of Alma Media today. Then Mr. Telanne returns about the operating environment and our strategy going forward. We welcome all the questions. We will take the questions first here from the premises of Alma Media in Helsinki, then from the conf call line, and then from the online chat. Don't hesitate to ask. We are happy to answer all your questions.

I think we are set, ready to begin. Welcome on my behalf and then welcome, Mr. Telanne. The stage is yours. Thank you.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Thank you, Elina. Good morning for everybody. Welcome on my behalf as well. As Elina told you, I will start with the main achievements of the third quarter, and then Juha Nuutinen, our CFO, will continue with the finances closely. I will also give you a short presentation of the segment performance during my presentation. We had a fantastic third quarter. There are many reasons behind this. Of course, this kind of pent-up demand in many sectors after the COVID-19. There are many other things as well behind the good performance of all business segments. We had a nice organic growth of 14.4%, and in addition to that, of course, the Nettix integration and the acquisition included in the figures. Due to these two, we had a nice 26% revenue growth and a very good 35% profitability growth.

At the moment, we are at the record high level, which means above 2019 record level. Because of these transactions that we have made successfully during the last years, our financial position is of course a little bit different. Juha Nuutinen will clarify that a little bit. That's not a problem for us. Even we have more than EUR 200 million of net debt, we don't have any problems to digest that. We have a very good cash flow with this kind of profitability development, and the leverage will decrease quite fast during next coming years. The gearing is now 132% and equity ratio 33%. As mentioned, Juha will take a deep dive into these questions later. The main part of the good development came from digital businesses.

Of course, now almost 80% of Alma's revenue is coming from digital sources, different kind of digital sources, advertising, digital subscriptions, different kind of services, classified and so on. As you can see from this slide, I'm really happy that the revenue growth and the profitability growth came from all the business lines. Alma Career, of course, the biggest contributor as it has been many times, EUR 6.4 million growth in revenues and EUR 3.4 million growth in operating profit. As well as Career, the other segments performed extremely well. The end result is more than satisfactory in my mind. We got a nice continuation of the digital growth. From the right side of the slide, you can see the graph, 39% growth of digital businesses.

We had quite a modest comparable year last year, but we were able to continue the nice growth of 57% digital sales from the second quarter. The good path has continued. Shortly, the performance of different business segments. I start from the Career, which is the biggest contributor to the good result. Revenue and profit at all-time high level. The base for this good development is of course the underlying market development. There is a strong demand for labor at the moment after the COVID-19. There's this kind of pent-up demand and this seemed to continue. We have been able to increase our revenues at least at the speed of the market development, which means that we have been able to at least keep or even gain market share in every market. Revenue growth 41%, profitability 63%, 63.8% up.

Most of this came also of course from the core job board business, which is the answer for the labor demand. Also this kind of additional services like Seduo, which is the digital education platform and different kind of ATS services. The underlying market recovery is good. Hopefully it stays. Of course, we have now the COVID-19 situation is worsening a little bit. So far we haven't seen any sign of slowing down of the career markets, which means that we are expecting this good development to continue also in the future. Expenses, of course, increasing hand in hand with the sales. We have these kind of sales-dependent expenses like salaries and marketing expenses. Also a little bit of these ICT expenses, which are more or less related to the product development. All in all, this segment is on a very healthy profitability level of more than 40%.

As you can see from the right side of the slide, there was a nice growth of every market. Of course, the Czech Republic is the biggest one, 33% growth there, but quite a nice growth in every market, which is of course a very good situation. It's balancing the portfolio and balancing the risks of different markets developing differently. Very good performance of all markets inside the Alma Career segment. Secondly, Alma Talent, a very solid performance during the quarter. We had a nice quarter for advertising as well as digital subscription sales. Of course, the digital services where we are investing more and more, they are enhancing the profitability and the biggest investments like the DIAS, it's working like expected. Revenue growth 8.4%. Almost 60% of the business at the moment digital businesses. Operating profit nicely more than 20% up, and so on.

The service part of this business is developing fast than the other part of the business. As you can see from the right side, around half of Alma Talent segment business is media businesses. The other part is services, different kind of services, which is the growing part of the business and the part that we are investing in more and more. They are, of course, the digital businesses. We have quite a good cost control in this segment as well, which means that from the revenue growth of 8%, we were able to gain quite a nice part to the lowest row, the operating margin. Very good performance. Healthy profitability level of 22.5% for a media company should be very nicely comparable to the best peers in Europe.

Alma Consumer, very good organic growth due to a very nice development in digital advertising and of course, the acquisition on those marketplaces that we have done are working perfectly. Revenue almost 40% up, operating profit more than 40% up. All sectors, every business contributed nicely to the growth and to the profitability. Of course, this Nettix acquisition is big part of the revenue growth, but also the organic growth as mentioned here, 8.3% is a really important contributor to the good development. A strong demand for housing, cars, and mobility marketplaces has continued. My personal view is that might slow down when the markets are normalizing more or less, but it seems that the good demand is still there. Hopefully we will see also the new car demand increasing that has been quite on a low level.

There is a problem with the components as the car dealers and the car makers have informed us and others, but there's a strong demand for new cars as well. The underlying market seem to be quite positive for our businesses. As you can see the very good performance of digital advertising and Sorry. Digital advertising in Iltalehti and a nice growth of digital subscriptions in Iltalehti as well. If I remember right, we have around 20,000 paid subscriptions in Iltalehti Plus at the moment, which is quite a good achievement. Due to this, we were able to mitigate the decrease of the single copy sales in Iltalehti. Healthy development of profitability and a very healthy level of profitability in the segment almost 30%. Half of the business in this segment media businesses like in Talent segment.

The other businesses are mobility, classified services, housing services and comparison services. This kind of digital classified and other service businesses, which are developing favorably. That was briefly the segment performance. All segments performed nicely even better than expected, which is of course a good situation and starting for the next quarter. Now Juha Nuutinen will continue with the financial position. Floor is yours, Juha.

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Kai, and good morning. Our financial position, or more exactly, our balance sheet, has been quite stressed during this year because of the M&A acquisitions and in the beginning of this year and last year. In this third quarter, we didn't have any M&A actions, and that's why our balance sheet or de-leveraging is starting now. If you are looking our debt side, the main part comes from the bridge facility loan, EUR 200 million at the moment, and we are going to convert that loan into a long-term financing during this year, most probably in November. In September, we paid EUR 20 million loan back concerning this bridge facility. Our gearing has also decreased, and it's 132% at the moment, and the equity ratio is 33%.

If there are no M&A actions, our net debt will decrease with around EUR 15 million-EUR 20 million in one quarter. We are de-leveraging quite fast, actually. Why is that? It's because of our quite strong operating cash flow. In this quarter, we had operating cash flow as EUR 18 million, which is one of the highest amounts at this part of the year or third quarter figure. There was EUR 8 million increase compared to last year. Cumulatively, we are in a EUR 50 million position. Of course, where this comes from is thanks to our good profits and increased profits, and also in the third quarter, it comes from the quite good networking capital change also as well. Cumulatively, our networking capital change is pretty much the same that it was last year.

Yeah, like I said, there were no acquisitions this quarter and last year. In the first half year, there were Nettix acquisition, of course, the biggest, and then Netello and Quantiq was slightly minor acquisitions. CapEx level is pretty much what we have had for years now. It's EUR 3 million in the nine months, and we will have CapEx around EUR 4 million for the whole year. That's pretty much what we have said earlier also. It's pretty much the same what we have had last year as well. This graph we have showed you since COVID-19 started, and this tells you Alma Career invoicing and revenue recognition trend on a monthly basis.

This is interesting because our revenue recognition comes a little behind with the invoicing trend, and you can see that our invoicing has been at the highest level what we have had in this Alma Career business earlier. We are above 2019 figures at the moment, if you are looking the four, five latest months since April, May this year. This means also that we will have pretty good revenue recognition and revenue increase also in the fourth quarter and also in the first quarter next year. The revenue comes a little behind with the invoicing. It's balancing the invoicing as well, but it takes three to six months from the first invoicing when we see the revenue growth. This graph tells you pretty good the combination of those two items. Of course, on earnings per share also, we see a nice growth there.

We are at EUR 0.18 at the moment in the third quarter. Of course, this comes from the profit increase, but there are also this redemption of our minority shares in Alma Career, Alma Mediapartners, which are affecting here as well. It was around EUR 0.04-0.05 per year, how much it affects. Most of the increase, of course, comes from the profit increase. There were not so many adjusted items in this quarter, only EUR 400,000, this came from the Talousohjelma business divestment in July. We updated our long-term financial targets in September, this is the new financial targets. Our revenue growth target is 5% per year. Like we said in September as well, this KPI is good to look on target concerned mostly next year. This year we will be clearly above the target.

At the moment we are in a growth of 17%. Our adjusted operating margin target is over 20%, and we are now 3% above that target, 23%. Net debt to EBITDA ratio, we set the target that it should be lower than 2.5, and we are now 2.6, and if we are calculating also the effect of acquired businesses from the whole 12-month period. We are pretty close to target at the end of this year, quite soon actually. In that sense, we are well-positioned compared to these targets. That was the financial part and, yeah, the deleveraging is now going in a good direction. That's in a short. Then we have operating. Kai will tell you more about the operating environment.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Thank you, Juha. Okay. The question is, of course, that is this good development going to continue? Of course, one part of this answer is that we have to have a look at the underlying economies where, for example, the good demand for the labor comes. Of course, for the advertising purposes, it's really important that the underlying markets are developing favorably. It seems that according to the current estimates forecast of the European Commission, there's the big picture. These are the markets that we are in. If you start from Finland, this kind of close to 3% GDP growth is okay for the advertising purposes and for the service development purposes and of course, for the recruitment. Especially the development around 4%-5% that we have in Central Eastern Europe is very good basis for our purposes.

A good ground for job or a recruitment portal development for different kind of job-related services that we are working with and for educational platforms or that kind of services. The ground for good development is there, which is a good news. Of course, in short term, nobody knows what the COVID-19 development is going to continue. We have yesterday heard that there's a one month lockdown in Latvia. Latvia is not a very big country for us. Anyway, if that development spreads in other Baltic countries or Central East Europe, then the difficulties may arise. So far so good. We haven't seen any kind of signs for slowing down in our sales there, which is, of course, a good sign for the rest of the year. That's it. The Finnish advertising market is picking up also.

We have had quite a good development in especially the online advertising, the digital advertising, where we have at least achieved now the market-leading position of which I'm very proud of. Our teams, led by Tiina Järvilehto, have done extremely good job. This been, of course, one of the targets that we have had and that's important, of course. We have invested many years for the best services around the advertising scene in Finland. This is the part of the Finnish players. I mean, the market share of the Finnish players there are, of course, 63%, if that's the right figure is for the international players like the U.S. platform giants. That's it. A solid performance and a nice development of the ad market.

There's this kind of pent-up demand which is now bursting and hopefully that will continue so that the customers that we have are going to continue with their investments in advertising during the last part of the year and during next year. Very good. These were the figures for the third quarter and then the strategy and outlook. There's no news, we will continue with the current strategy. We will continue transforming the core businesses, like the print business and other businesses as well. We will continue growing in digital, especially in digital services that we have and we will have. Of course, we will continue to internationalize the business into new geographies or expanding the businesses in current geographies. This is the core strategy that we are running.

Here are a few examples of the third quarter actions that we have had inside the strategy. The biggest move has been this Nettix integration, which is running smoothly. The first phase is there. The places are there. The work is still in progress, but the first phase is implemented successfully. From now on, it's more about deepening the cooperation, nurturing the company culture development, and so on. Other example is the Netello integration, which is also proceeding nicely. A good growth with a high profitability, very smooth cooperation with the new persons. Consolidation has been really good. We have done new initiatives with our partners, like with Inderes joint effort, like this virtual investor week that we had. It was a great success.

We are very happy with this kind of cooperation with different parties, and we will continue with developing of this. That's it. Mostly the third quarter's been a quarter for consolidation of the acquired businesses and setting up the new position and new way of working for the whole company. The outlook remains the same that it's been for the 2021, which means that we are expecting the full year revenue and adjusted operating profit from continuing operations to increase significantly from the last year's level. That's it. If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to answer those here in this room in Alma House or online.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yes. We begin with the questions from Alma. Please go ahead, Petri.

Speaker 7

Thank you for the presentation. Starting with Alma Career. Thinking about serial growth, can you give some color on where is it coming from geographically, the growth, and then do you see better traction in different areas than others?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah. It's actually developing Czech Republic, the platform, and we leveraged the business to Slovakia, where at the moment, the biggest growth comes from Slovakia. We have started the launch in Finland as well, and then we will continue to other countries step by step. That is the way of going.

Speaker 7

Thank you. You mentioned wage inflation accelerating. Can you talk about this? What's the magnitude, and is it different also geographically?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah. The biggest inflation comes from the countries where the unemployment rate is the lowest, which means like in Czech Republic and in specific the metropolitan area Prague, where the unemployment rate is more than around 3% at the moment. Of course, there's the huge demand of the ICT employees. There the inflation, the pressure is highest. We are talking maybe at the moment 5%-10% wage inflation on average on that side. This is a very good example. Of course, in every country, this ICT personnel's wage inflation pressure is the highest. Otherwise, we don't see any big problems. It's more a business as usual. The ICT sector is difficult because every company, they have the same demand, they have the same needs for digital development, and we are fighting for the same skills as they are.

That is something that we have to take into account and carefully monitor and follow the situation. We have many interesting and successful initiatives in order to mitigate the pressure. Like we have this kind of training programs, successful training programs in Finland that we're going to continue that all over the place.

Speaker 7

Thank you. A minor detailed question on the share result of associate companies on Q3 seems to pop up from the usual level. Is there something extraordinary behind this?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Juha, I didn't hear your question, so what was the extraordinary?

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Item

Speaker 7

result of associated companies.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Oh, right. Yeah, Juha can answer that.

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Mainly it comes from the Bolt Group company, and that company has had pretty good summer in its area and that comes from that area, and it has quite good revenue increase and also now the profit is also at the profitable side, and it's affecting also in our row in associated companies. It comes from the Bolt Group.

Speaker 7

Thank you. That's all from my side.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Thank you very much.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Thank you. Now operator, we would be ready for questions. Is there any questions? Thank you.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Juha, you can come here as well.

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

[Yes].

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Operator, we are ready for questions. Can you hear us?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Operators seem to be asleep, so

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yeah, maybe we can take the online questions here in between while the operator gets on board. Yes.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Okay, do we have any online questions?

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yes, we have some online questions.

Yes, we have two online questions from Turo Kiiski and Alice from .

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Elina, can you read them?

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yeah, maybe I should read them so it goes out in the air. Okay. Turo Kiiski from 3J, analyst from 3J. He's asking actually the same question about the Seduo also. I think that's already done, but the other one concerning Iltalehti and the subscriptions.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

What is the medium-term potential of this business? Will Iltalehti shift fully behind paywall over time?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah. Hopefully, yes. The idea is, of course, to continue. We really don't know how this will continue. We are a little bit surprised the success of the Iltalehti subscriptions so far. Iltalehti Plus development has been faster than expected. There are, of course, while Iltalehti has 2.8 million monthly users, and now we have around 20,000 paid digital subscriptions. You can understand that there's a huge possibility. It takes time, so we will continue developing the content, and it's all this kind of trial and error thing to find the ways to increase the circulation, of course. So far, the development is good.

We are in a very early phase of this development, but amazingly quickly in a position where we are able to mitigate the losses or the decrease of the print single copy sales, which is, of course, being a very difficult and a bad thing for the tabloid market and business. We wait for a good development to continue and remains to be seen how big the market will eventually become. We don't know. Nobody knows.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Maybe not fully behind the paywall in the overtime.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

No, not fully behind the paywall. No, maybe not. Because there's, of course, we have to have the balance between the visitors and the paid subscriptions and to balance and control the advertising potential, of course. For the advertising purposes, we need to have a wide audience in the digital online site. On the other hand, we want to have also the user payments from the paid circulation. That's it, balancing these like we have to do in other media businesses always like for Kauppalehti or Talouselämä or other businesses. We are doing the same development here.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay. There is one more question that is coming from Sami Sarkamies about Alma Consumer. The online classifieds have performed well. Are you seeing any cooling down when looking at the activity level with housing and car markets?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah. In car markets, actually, no. In houses and premises, housing market, it seemed to be cooling down a little bit. Of course, there's been a really deep increase in the volumes of the housing market during the COVID-19. It seemed to be normalizing a little bit. It doesn't mean that our business would react similarly. The overall view is that there will be some kind of normalizing of the price increases and the volumes in the housing market. That seemed to be the case. In used cars, there's been a very good development and usually the sales of the used cars and the new cars are more or less balanced. During the COVID times, there's been a quite low demand of new cars and that seemed to be balancing a little bit. Now there is a new problem, of course, with the components.

The lack of components in the car industry is, of course, affecting the new car sales. Hopefully, they will find the ways of shortening the delivery times for the new cars, and that's, of course, important for us also for the advertising purposes. For the classifieds, it seemed to be working pretty well so far. We haven't seen any remarkable or significant decrease in the volumes in our case. Not so far.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay. Sami is continuing. He will wonder what's our main concern at the moment, but before that, about the financial targets. These look overly conservative now even though they were issued in September. Any thoughts related to this?

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Yeah. The EBIT margin is conservative and cautious, and we have to look at that on next year's revenue growth. We have to estimate next year better. It's not this year's target at all. It concerns next year. That's why we come back to that revenue growth target more closely then.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Yeah. I agree. Right now we have pent-up demand bursting, and we have the Nettix integration, the acquisitions in place, so it's difficult to estimate. The next years and the long term, the midterm in this case, would say the revenue growth target is more or less without any acquisitions. It's more about organic growth target. The profitability remains to be seen, might be a little bit conservative, and we might come back to that by the end of the year. That's right.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay. Sammy is also asking that, what is your main concern at the moment?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

It's the COVID-19 situation, which is worsening at the moment. We heard yesterday that in Latvia, they have introduced this one-month lockdown again. The situation is not much better in other Baltic countries. We will see. Remains to be seen how the situation develops. I'm not satisfied with the vaccination development at the moment, not even in Finland. The healthcare system is more or less under a very stressed situation in every place, and there is a huge need for speeding up the second vaccination and so on. That is the biggest concern in short term. We don't have any other concerns in our case. Our businesses are running smoothly and the personnel is in a very good mood and in a very good spirit.

The machine, so to say, in Alma, the machine is in a perfect condition at the moment, at the record high profitability level, and it seems to be working nicely. That's it. The COVID-19, of course, may have its effects on the demand in short term. In long term, maybe not. In short term, that might be these kind of hiccups that might arise.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay, Pia Rosqvist-Heinsalmi is asking about consumer, that any comments on the operating leverage and its development in consumer?

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Well, of course, Nettix integration is in the middle of first phase is now back to us, and then the next round is going to be happening and we will more integrate Nettix into Consumer and do more synergies with the other products and that's why it will generate some operating leverage advantages. Let's see. It's a longer-term process than this first wave.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Exactly. There's of course a big question of the cultural development of these different employee groups and different companies. We have totally different backgrounds and it takes time before the machine works as it is expected. Leveraging the good things from either or other parts, there's a nice possibility. We have very good plans on the table and the work has started already. It's quite good. We are very positive on the leverage of this.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yes, same question from Pia about the main concerns for Q4, if any. Is there anything to add?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Not really. Not really. It's COVID-19.

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Yeah, if we are looking the last year for fourth quarter, the advertising market was higher at the higher level. We are facing a much more difficult comp-.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

That's one part of it, yes.

Juha Nuutinen
CFO, Alma Media

Yeah, that's one thing. The growth will not continue with this kind of growth ratios, but still we are positive, but we have to understand that that was a pretty good advertising quarter last year.

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

Sales are at the high level and especially on the Career side where the invoicing rate is on a high level. That will end up to a good revenues as well for the last quarter and for the beginning of the year next year.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Yes, that was about Sami's question about career. Are you still experiencing a situation in which invoicing grows sequentially week after week, or has the growth flattened out? Given achieved invoicing, it seems that Q4 sales will grow sequentially from Q3. Will that also be the case in first quarter relative to the fourth quarter?

Kai Telanne
CEO, Alma Media

So far, we haven't seen any flattening, so the invoicing rate has been continuing like expected. We don't know how the COVID-19 is going to happen, is this kind of lockdowns. If the countries are ending up to a lockdown, that will definitely have its effect on our businesses as well. So far, the invoicing rate is well above 2019 levels.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay. At the moment, no more online questions. Should we make one more try on the conf call line? Okay, operator, we would be ready for questions, if any, from the conf call line.

Operator

We have a first question. It's by Sami Sarkamies. The line is now open for you.

Sami Sarkamies
Analyst, Danske Bank

I think my questions have been answered already. Thanks.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Thank you. Okay, any questions that has not been answered yet?

Operator

We have a second question by Pia Rosqvist-Heinsalmi. The line is now open for you.

I think Pia-

Pia Rosqvist-Heinsalmi
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Yeah, it's Pia here. My questions were also answered. Thank you.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Thank you. Thank you, and sorry about the delay. No other questions?

Operator

For the moment, there are no further questions.

Elina Kukkonen
Executive Vice President, Communications and Brand, Alma Media

Okay. Thank you, operator. Okay.

Operator

In that case, we are ready to finalize this presentation. I will thank you very much for your attention. As you can see from here, we have the next interim report January, March on Friday 22nd April. We welcome you all to this fourth quarter presentation. Thank you. Have a nice week