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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Oct 27, 2022

Operator

For operator assistance throughout the call, please press star zero. Finally, I would like to advise all participants that this call is being recorded. Thank you. I'd now like to welcome William Lynch, Head of Investor Relations, to begin the conference. William, over to you.

William Lynch
Head of Investor Relations, Kerry Group

Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to Kerry's Q3 2022 results call. I'm joined on our call by CEO Edmond Scanlon and our CFO, Marguerite Larkin. Edmond and Marguerite will take you through a brief presentation, and we will then open the lines to your questions. Before we begin, please note the usual disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements. I will now hand over to Edmond.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, William, and good morning, everyone. Moving to slide three and my overview comments on our year-to-date results. Overall, we are pleased to report that we continue to deliver strong business growth in what remains a highly dynamic marketplace. Firstly, volumes in Taste & Nutrition are up 8.5% year to date, and this growth was broad-based across each of our regions and our markets, and was led by excellent performances in snacks, beverage and meat and bakery in particular. Overall growth in the retail channel remained strong, while food service continued to deliver double-digit growth through the third quarter. Moving to pricing, which was up 7.5% in Taste & Nutrition for the period and a little higher at group level.

As you can see from the slide, pricing has increased through the year as we continue to manage through this unprecedented inflationary environment, very much in collaboration with our customers. The resilience of supply chains remains a key focus across our industry as a result of the inflationary pressures and the geopolitical volatility in places. However, we continue to see good levels of innovation activity with our customers, and we're working very closely to support them in developing their offerings. Also to help them to meet the needs of their consumers in areas such as new taste experiences and cleaner and healthier labels, while also evolving their offerings to meet a more value-conscious consumer.

While our industry remains highly dynamic with many challenges to navigate, the excellent performance we've shown this year, combined with our strong positioning with our customers, gives us confidence that we would continue to outperform and meet the opportunities in our marketplace. With that, I'll hand you over to Marguerite for the financial overview.

Marguerite Larkin
CFO, Kerry Group

Thanks, Edmond, and good morning, everyone. Moving to slide four and the summary group financial overview. Firstly, on revenue, group volumes were up 6.6% in the period, driven by the strong performance in Taste and Nutrition. Reported revenue was up 16.1% in the period, primarily due to organic growth with foreign exchange and M&A broadly offsetting each other. Group EBITDA margins were back 40 basis points in the period, which was driven by the increased mathematical impact from the higher Q3 pricing that Edmond referenced as we continue to offset the absolute increase in input costs. This dilution was partially offset by benefits from portfolio developments, operating leverage, portfolio mix and efficiency initiatives. Reported EBITDA increased by 12.6% year to date due to the combination of strong revenue growth and margin development.

Finally, net debt was EUR 2.4 billion at the end of the period, versus EUR 2.5 billion at the end of H1. Turning next to slide 5 and the group revenue analysis. Overall reported revenue increased by 16.1% in the period, driven by the components, as you can see highlighted here on the slide. Firstly, volume growth of 6.6% and price of 10.6%, which equates to 7.5% and 12.1% respectively on a like-for-like basis. On foreign exchange, we had a 6.6% translation currency tailwind on revenues driven by a weaker euro against the major currencies, combined with a 0.2% transaction impact.

Overall, acquisitions and disposals was a net decrease of 7.9%, with acquisitions contributing 4.8% to revenue, driven primarily by Niacet, more than offset by the effect of last year's Consumer Foods meats and meals business disposal of 12.7%. Moving next to slide 6 and the Taste & Nutrition business review. Firstly, we had volume growth of 8.5% in the period, with growth of 8.2% in Q3. Pricing was 7.5% year to date and 10.6% in the quarter, resulting in overall organic growth of 16% year to date and 19% in the third quarter.

W e had good absolute profit growth, the EBITDA margin for the division was back 80 basis points year to date due to the impact of passing through input cost inflation, partially offset by mix leverage, efficiency and portfolio benefits. From an end-use markets perspective, beverage continued to be strong with launches in the tea and coffee, refreshing and nutritional beverage categories. Growth in meat and bakery was supported by increased demand for Kerry's range of food protection and preservation systems, while growth in snacks was strong through our authentic taste systems and taste and salt and sugar reduction technologies. In our channels, retail continued to deliver strong growth, with food service continuing to deliver double-digit volume growth. Volumes in emerging markets were up 12.3%, led by growth in LATAM, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia.

Turning now to Slide 7 and our regional performance within Taste & Nutrition. The Americas had volume growth of 9.3% in the period, and 9.6% in the third quarter. Growth in North America in the period was driven by our beverage, meat, and bakery end-use markets, and remained strong across both of our channels. In LATAM, we had very strong growth across Brazil, driven by performance in meals and meat, while volumes in Mexico were led by growth in beverage and snacks with regional leaders. In Europe, volumes were up 6.2% in the period, and 4.4% in the third quarter. This growth was led by the snacks, dairy, and meals end-use markets, with food service a key driver of growth within the region.

From a geographical perspective, growth was strongest in Central and Southern Europe, while performance in Eastern Europe was impacted by the ongoing war in the region. As previously announced, the divestment of the group's Russia subsidiary was also completed during the period. In APMEA, we had overall volume growth of 9% in the period, and 8.6% in the third quarter, led by the meat, snacks, and bakery end-use markets. Growth was strong across both channels and was strongest across the Middle East and Southeast Asia, partially offset by China, which continues to be impacted by local restrictions. Turning to slide 8 and Dairy Ireland, which delivered solid growth despite being in a period of significant price inflation. Overall, pro forma volume growth in the period was 1.8%, with growth of 1% in the third quarter.

Pricing for the period was up 36.6%. The dairy ingredients business achieved good overall volume growth, while in dairy consumer products, overall category volumes were impacted by higher prices, and EBITDA margin for the division was back 190 basis points as a result of passing through input cost inflation. Finally, to cover off a couple of other financial matters on slide 9. I Nput costs, we are expecting elevated levels of inflation to continue through Q4 at a broadly similar level to Q3. We will continue to manage these input cost fluctuations through our well-established pricing model, with the aim of recovering the absolute cost of these price increases. On currency, we're forecasting a translation tailwind of approximately 9% on earnings for the full year based on current exchange rates.

To sum up on the overall financial performance, we were pleased with our continued progress and strong growth across the period, particularly given the current market dynamics. I 'll hand you back to Edmond for the outlook.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, Marguerite. Now moving to slide 10 and the full year outlook. While overall market conditions remain uncertain, we believe we are well positioned as we continue to work with our customers to evolve their offerings. We remain confident in our ability to manage through the current inflationary cycle with our well-established pricing model and our cost initiatives. We will continue to strategically evolve our portfolio and invest capital aligned to our strategic priorities and key growth platforms. Given we have just finished the third quarter, today we're narrowing our full year adjusted earnings guidance range from 5%-9% to 6%-8% on a constant currency basis. I'll hand you back to the operator, and we look forward to taking your questions.

Operator

Thank you, speakers, for the presentation. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad, and we'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Cathal Kenny from Davy Research. Your line is open.

Cathal Kenny
Food and Beverage Analyst, Davy Research

Morning all, and thanks for taking my questions. Two questions from my side. Firstly, on the Americas, can you speak to the performance of the North American division or region within that, please, by channel for food service and retail? Second question relates to margin. At a group level, can you outline the change in margin in Q3 and the drivers of that margin and how we should think about margin for the full year? They're my two questions. Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Good morning, Cathal. I'll take the first part of that question, and Marguerite will take the second part. Just in terms of, let's say, our overall business in the Americas, it's been a very strong quarter for the business with the 9.6% growth. Just to look at that between LATAM and North America, one should think about LATAM in the 20s from a growth perspective and strong performance in North America then in the mid- to high-single digits%. What I would say is there's been a lot of a significant level of launches in the second and third quarter in North America. I would say the level of engagement with customers is quite strong.

On the retail channel, I would particularly call out beverage from an innovation perspective. I would call that category as quite dynamic. W hether it's on areas like alcoholic beverage on the one hand, nutritional and functional beverage on the other hand, areas like hydration. Qui te strong on the retail side. Also on the food service side, you know, we've seen a return of seasonal LTOs in the quarter, a step up from where it was a year ago. Actually, we did see some earlier launches of some of the seasonal LTOs a little bit earlier than we would've typically seen them in the past.

What I talked about before around reducing operational complexity at the back of the store, I can safely say at this stage that that's a structural change in the food service channel. We're very well placed to take advantage of that opportunity.

Marguerite Larkin
CFO, Kerry Group

Maybe then Cathal, good morning. Just your question on margins. So firstly, our overall margin at a group level was back 40 basis points year to date. Then in the quarter, just over 100 basis points. The higher margin dilution in the third quarter was solely due to the mathematical impact of passing through the increased input cost inflation that I referenced through higher pricing and the phasing of profits in the second half. I would say our normal levers have continued to positively contribute to margin during the period. Then from a full year perspective, we're not calling out any changes to the fundamental drivers of margin.

However, given the increased macroeconomic impact and the timing of the portfolio benefits, we are looking at group margins being directionally back at, I'd say, 60-70 basis points for the full year.

Cathal Kenny
Food and Beverage Analyst, Davy Research

Thank you. That's clear.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Charles Eden from UBS. Your line is open.

Charles Eden
Director and Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

Hi. Good morning. Just a couple of questions from me. Firstly, Edmond, would you mind just quantifying the growth that you saw in the retail channel in T&N in the third quarter? Maybe just give some comments around the performance by customer type. I'm thinking global FMCGs versus your local and regional customer base. Then my second question is just on the guidance. I'll be blunt. Why not raise the full year constant FX EPS guide at the midpoint? I sort of fully understand the pricing strength is just a cost offset, as Marguerite just alluded to. With volumes also very strong and coming in ahead of expectations, surprised that you haven't maybe noticed that up. If you could just talk to that a little bit. Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Sure. Thanks, Charles. Firstly, in terms of retail, overall retail volumes were 5.6% in the third quarter. That was primarily driven from our performance in the North America region from a regional perspective. In terms of customer type, I wouldn't necessarily call out any kind of a major shift or anything like that from a segmentation standpoint as we look right across our customer base. There's nothing really noteworthy there to call out from what we've just seen over the last year. We're not seeing any significant market share shift or anything like that. What I would say is that there is quite an amount of innovation happening across the board.

I guess I call it renovation, where we're working with customers right across the board, you know, to improve the nutritional profile of products, clean up labels, you know, reduce sugar, salt, and fat, without compromising on taste. One would not typically see that kind of activity from a category growth perspective, but from a Kerry perspective, that is certainly a driver in terms of our performance in the retail channel. In terms of guidance, maybe just to frame that a little bit, we do expect that their full year growth in the T&N to be in that 7% zone from a volume growth perspective.

I guess based on, you know, let's say my own experience with customers, I would say particularly in the European region, you know, we are seeing an element of cautiousness with customers. Our perspective on the guidance is really around being pragmatic, and we feel, let's say our approach is appropriate, given where we are at this time of the year and the level of visibility we have, and our engagement with customers.

Charles Eden
Director and Senior Equity Analyst, UBS

That's clear. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of James Taggart from Berenberg. Your line is open.

James Taggart
Financial Services Analyst, Berenberg

Hi. Good morning, Edmond. Good morning, Marguerite. A couple of questions. I mean, just firstly coming back on, actually, your last comment, Edmond, about the volume growth. You're talking about 7% for the full year for T&N. A fter what you've achieved, I guess, in Q3, I mean, what are you... You mentioned Europe being, seeing some cautiousness, but are you actually seeing any signs that some of your customers are starting to, you know, postpone or cancel orders? You know, if we look at food service in particular, I mean, clearly it was a very strong quarter in terms of growth.

We are seeing some data showing, you know, footfall slow down in QSR, and I appreciate, you know, what you're doing on the LTOs, but are you seeing any weakness materializing in food service at all, you know, perhaps towards the end of the quarter? That would be very helpful just to get some idea of that. In the retail channel, thanks for the growth rate. Any big difference there between your branded volumes and your private label? That'd be really helpful. Just lastly, just on just in terms of guidance, Marguerite, any comments on free cash flow and conversion expectations for this year at this stage? Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, James. Maybe just to give a few comments. Look, we have seen some shifts in consumer behavior across different markets, and we have seen some volatility in order patterns. We have seen some customers decrease orders. On the other hand, we've seen other customers actually increase orders. I would say my level of cautiousness would be more from a geographic perspective around the European region, let's say, rather than, let's say, what we're seeing in North America, where we're seeing North America continuing to be quite dynamic. We have seen an uptick on the level of engagement on the private label side.

Certainly, the level of engagement with retailers as they're trying to, let's say, scenario plan and things like that certainly has increased. Overall, I guess we feel we're well positioned with the level of engagement right across the board that we're having with customers. As they're looking at various scenarios, and looking out into the next number of quarters, we feel that the level of engagement we have is very strong. The level of collaboration we're having with customers is very strong. Ultimately, we feel well positioned, as things, let's say, evolve here in the coming quarters. I think it's fair to say that our approach is pragmatic. I wouldn't call out any kind of, let's say, a major change from a destocking standpoint.

We haven't seen any meaningful level at this moment in time. In terms of, let's say, that point on, let's say branded versus private label, let's say other than maybe one or two geographies, we haven't seen any meaningful, let's say change. Ultimately, from a Kerry perspective, you know, from a practical standpoint, in many instances, our customers actually serve both channels, both branded and private label. Again, from an impact perspective, we don't see a major impact as that potentially will evolve in the coming quarters.

In terms of food service, like you see there in the numbers, overall, we had growth of 14, you know, mid-single digits in that 14% zone. That is a strong performance, I would say, primarily driven by the Americas from an overall scale perspective. I guess at that point I know I've touched on before in terms of innovations to reduce back-of-house complexity. I would say that now is the biggest driver of opportunity growth and innovation pipeline. I would say when we look right across our business, we believe that that is structural in terms of, let's say, the food service channel.

We feel while that, let's say work is primarily oriented from a geographic perspective in North America. What we typically see is when customers, especially global customers, global QSR customers, you know, let's say fast casual customers, or coffee chains, when they make changes in the back of the stores, while they might start in North America for reasons we've spoke about in the past, they actually roll out those changes in back-of-store, let's say operations, globally subsequently. Look, we're extremely well-positioned in terms of helping those customers reduce that complexity. We've talked about it many times in the past, but this is a real feature now in food service.

Again, we feel optimistic about the channel as we look forward despite, you know, the obvious challenges that are gonna be out there in the coming quarters.

Marguerite Larkin
CFO, Kerry Group

James, on your cash point, while we don't give a detailed cash update of the quarter, I will say that we are continuing to work to a cash conversion in the zone of 80% for the full year. Obviously balancing this against requirements linked with the increased inflationary environment. Hopefully that gives you our thinking.

James Taggart
Financial Services Analyst, Berenberg

Great. Thank you very much, Marguerite Larkin.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Molins from Goodbody. Your line is open.

Jason Molins
Director of Corporate Broking, Goodbody

Hi, good morning. Just for clarity around the cash flow performance, I appreciate you don't necessarily give color during the quarter, but I guess the debt position that you've traveled with from half year to where you're sitting at the moment hasn't necessarily moved that much. Ju st give a bit of context in terms particularly the working capital that maybe was a drag in the first half, how we should think about that for the rest of the year. Ju st finally around the input cost situation. Appreciate the bit of color that you've mentioned for the second half, but how should we think about, I guess, the early part of next year, or what you're thinking about how some of those input costs are gonna travel through next year?

Thank you.

Marguerite Larkin
CFO, Kerry Group

Good morning, Jason. Just in terms of cash, I think it's fair to say we're making progress. It's, you know, obviously, at this juncture, we don't give a detailed update on the moving parts, but in summary, our reduction in debt from EUR 2.5 billion to EUR 2.4 billion does reflect profits in the period, working capital and also our capital expenditure during the period. I think in the context of the full year, just to reiterate my earlier point in the context of the full year, again, to confirm that we're continuing to work to that cash conversion in the zone of 80%.

Obviously at the full year, as we give you the full breakdown of the various working capital components, et cetera, that makes up that cash conversion. In terms of the raw material cost inflation, for firstly maybe looking at it from a Taste & Nutrition perspective on raw materials, we're looking at mid-teens% raw material cost inflation overall year to date, and we expect that to be more like high teens% for the full year. Within Dairy Ireland, input cost inflation is obviously more significant. The combination of those two would lead to an overall input cost inflation for the group of more than 20% in the zone of 20+% for the full year, as we look out for the remainder of the year.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Faham Baig from UBS. Your line is open.

Faham Baig
Executive Director of Equity Research, UBS

Hi, guys. A couple of hopefully quick questions from me. Would you suggest the very strong volume performance in T&N in Q3 also reflects a normalization of the supply chain? Or would you say there are still areas of difficulties that you still have? The second question comes back to your brief comments on the stocking. What visibility do you have on inventories at your customers? I'm conscious because one of the largest food and beverage companies spoke about running on significantly higher levels of inventories that they're going to look to normalize over the next few months, or it could be up to a year, and how that might impact your volumes in FY 2023. Thanks.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, Faham. I'll try and give a few perspectives. I would say overall from a supply chain standpoint, look, there does continue to be ongoing supply chain challenges and we, you know, are continuing to mitigate that supply chain disruption. We have been carrying, let's say, extra inventories. I would say, you know, while there's lots of challenges across the industry from a pricing standpoint and an inflation standpoint, and, you know, we're all asking ourselves, you know, questions about price elasticity and trading down and what have you. At the end of the day, the most important point with any engagement with a customer continues to be guarantee of supply and security of supply.

I think in terms of, let's say, what's, let's say, one of the drivers of our business is I feel is that, you know, we've been doing a pretty decent job at supplying our customers over the last number of years, despite all the challenges, whether it's COVID or geopolitical events or other supply chain disruptions. I think we've been benefiting through engagement with our customers as a reward, if you will, for, let's say, doing a good job from an overall supply chain perspective. W e don't have perfect visibility in terms of, you know, what's out there, let's say across the industry from an overall stocking level standpoint.

For sure it is at an elevated level across the industry. e haven't seen any, let's say, meaningful level of destocking. We're not expecting to see a meaningful level of destocking. I'm sure some customers are, you know, maybe taking some actions. It's something we keep a very close eye on, but not something that would that I would be calling out here at this moment in time, as you know, we should be expecting something to see something in the short term. Maybe over the long term, there might be a gradual destocking across the supply chain. Right now, I just don't expect that to be a major factor here in the coming quarter.

As for 2023, I just feel it's just a little bit too early to comment on that at this moment in time.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Lauren Molyneux from Citi. Your line is open.

Lauren Molineux
Equity Research Analyst, Citi

Hi. Morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just have two, please. Firstly, can you just talk a bit more about what you're seeing in the emerging markets, kind of how that trended through the quarter, whether you're starting to see any elasticities there in reaction to some of the pricing that's going through, and I guess your expectations for how well those markets hold up as well. My second question would be on your volume outlook for 2023. I know you've kind of touched on it slightly, but I was wondering if you could talk more to the shape of volumes that you're expecting through the year and that you're planning, and also kind of how those volumes look by channel, if you're expecting some conversion from out of home to at home as consumers' wallets get tighter. Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Good morning, Lauren. Lauren, I appreciate the question in 2023, but I just feel at this stage it's a little bit too early to comment. I mean, what I would say is that I feel that we're well positioned. I think we're pragmatic in terms of, let's say, you know, what potential scenarios could play out. Overall, we feel confident on our ability to be able to engage with customers to help them to, let's say, meet the challenges and the opportunities that will present themselves over the course of the next twelve months. In terms of emerging markets, overall emerging market growth in Q3 was up mid-teens%.

This was representative of excellent growth in LATAM, and also in the APMEA region, I guess outside of China. China continued to be, let's say, challenged from an overall perspective, and from the restrictions that we've seen there. Another area I would call out that has been challenged for obvious reasons due to the war, and that's Eastern Europe. The growth drivers, I would say here in emerging markets, just to call out one in particular, and it's that localization of supply. We're not seeing, let's say, a demand impact, and you're not seeing that demand impact in our numbers in EMs, because I feel we're, again, well-positioned to be able to meet that demand from a local perspective.

We see customers in EMs really, I guess, prioritizing partners that can work with them locally from a development perspective and also from a supply perspective. From a channel perspective, on the retail side we've seen particularly strong growth on the snacking area due to growth in authentic taste solutions. On the food service side, it's mainly with the QSR chains and the reintroduction of LTOs and also some recovery from where we were a year ago.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Lisa De Neve from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Lisa De Neve
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. I have a follow-up on food service and the moving parts there. We've seen some QSR and restaurant traffic trends slowing sequentially and some QSR and CPG companies have sort of cited lower transactional volumes and a notable shift back to at-home consumption. On the other side, you've noted very strong demand for simplification in back-of-store solutions and even noted this time sort of a return of seasonal innovation trends. How do you think about the sort of next growth outlook and what you're seeing across the different regions in food service? It would be just very helpful to understand sort of the moving parts here and where you're benefiting, where there potentially could be some levels of weakness. Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, Lisa. I'll take the question. Like I said, look, we're very pleased with the continued strong performance in food service, and we feel we're extremely well-positioned. I mean, I would ask you to cast your mind back to, let's say, the early days of COVID, where our business was significantly impacted. W e proactively engaged with our key customers in that phase, and really worked proactively with them, to work through the various challenges that they were seeing. At the time, you know, the first point obviously was that, you know, there was an impact from a labor standpoint, a labor availability standpoint.

Maybe at the very outset, the perspective was that, you know, that labor availability might be short term in nature. Subsequently, you know, it transpired that it is more structural in nature, not just from an availability standpoint, but also we've seen a significant step up from a cost of labor standpoint. Many of our food service customers had to restrict opening hours or make some restrictions on menus. We've been working with our customers in the food service channel every step of the way here over the last couple of years, and I think we've positioned ourselves extremely well to be having the right level of conversation with them as they're identifying challenges, and we're helping them to overcome those challenges that they're seeing.

I would say from a geographic standpoint, the Americas certainly would be the most dynamic. What I mean by that is that these labor challenges, which are structural in nature, are primarily a feature in North America. Again, I just feel that we're, you know, coming to them proactively with solutions, whether it's, you know, highly concentrated beverage solutions, ambient stable solutions, you know, different types of dispensing solutions from a beverage standpoint. These are resonating with our customers. When customers change their back of store operations.

Please bear in mind that the primary orientation of our business is in QSR and fast casual, which we think are going to be the beneficiaries of any evolution of the market in the next phase. We're extremely well-positioned, I feel. I would say that from a European perspective, you know, the U.K. was a little bit subdued. We did see that, you know, at the earlier phases of recovery, U.K. was probably the first to recover in Europe. That then subsequently was followed by continental Europe.

Within the Asia region, you know, we saw performance in the quarter well above 20%, driven by primarily the, you know, seasonal menu offerings, but also solutions designed to improve the overall nutritional impact. As we look at the food service channel, we feel we're extremely well-positioned. We feel that the market for us, the market opportunity within the food service channel, will actually be bigger for us because of the structural changes we're seeing in the channel, all around that back of store complexity and removing it.

Lisa De Neve
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you very much for that. It's very helpful. I have a small follow-up on the EBITDA margin guidance for the full year, if that's possible. You've guided sort of in the ballpark of EBITDA margins being down minus 60 basis points. I just wanted to understand, is that just a mathematical price to input inflation effects or is there anything else that is sort of embedded in that sort of qualitative guidance? Thank you.

Marguerite Larkin
CFO, Kerry Group

Hi, Lisa. I'll take that question. It's predominantly due to the increased macroeconomic impact and also, as I referenced, the timing of the portfolio benefit, which was more oriented to the earlier part of the year versus the last part of the year.

Lisa De Neve
Vice President and Equity Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Virginie Boussicaut from Deutsche Bank Your line is open.

Virginie Boussicaut
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Good morning. I have three questions. First of all, can you please update us on your M&A pipeline, and comment on the market in Iran

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Sorry, Virginie. We just can't hear you so clearly. I'm not too sure the line has improved.

Virginie Boussicaut
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Oh.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

That's better, Virginie.

Operator

Yeah, we got better. Yeah.

Virginie Boussicaut
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sorry. Can you hear me now?

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Yeah.

Operator

That's better, Virginie. Thanks.

Virginie Boussicaut
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Perfect. Sorry about that. Yeah. Could you please update us on your M&A pipeline, what you are seeing in terms of valuations, sellers' expectations, competition for assets? Have you seen any meaningful change that may or may not provide opportunities for you? Just a small clarification. You mentioned earlier on the call that you've seen a return of LTOs in food service and also you have seen earlier launches than you would have seen in the past. Does it mean that some sales in food service might have been pulled forward, which might in part explain your conservatism on Q4? Last question.

Quick data point, which relates to 2009, so I'm going to test your memory. Even if I know you were not in the same position at the time, but would you happen to know, how much of Taste & Nutrition did food service represent, at the time compared to the 30% it represents today? Thanks.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

I'll kick off here and maybe William might help me with your last question. Just on M&A, I would characterize our pipeline as continuing to be quite active. That said, expectation management around valuations is taking a little bit of time. Where we are spending some time with various promoters and owners of businesses, let's say managing expectations for, you know, for the reasons that we all know. That said, the pipeline continues to be active. I think, Virginie, your point on food services is fair.

We have seen a pull forward, I would say, of a number of seasonal LTOs being launched a little bit earlier. Look from an overall perspective, I would characterize our perspective on the outlook and let's say the full year guidance has been pragmatic and appropriate. I've gone back in the history lesson there, Virginie. Thanks for the challenge, you know. I mean, food service currently we're in the zone of 30%. That's where we're kind of back in that zone, given obviously the growth that we've seen across this year.

If you go back into the end of the previous decade, really we were back into the 2008, 2009. We are looking at under 20% zone. We were in that zone in about a fifth of what we would characterize as Taste and Nutrition, you know.

Virginie Boussicaut
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay, great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Heidi Vesterinen from BNP Paribas. Your line is open.

Heidi Vesterinen
Financial Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thank you. I've just got two questions left. Some of your customers have talked about SKU rationalization. Is this something you see, and how would it impact your business? Then secondly, you have a lot of innovations relating to sustainability. As consumers become pressured, does sustainability still matter to consumers? Have you seen any changes there? Thank you.

Edmond Scanlon
CEO, Kerry Group

Thanks, Heidi. I would say on the first part of your question, first on SKU rationalization. I would say that it has been a factor right across the last couple of years, and I would say primarily driven from the supply chain challenges that we've been encountering over the last number of years. I wouldn't describe any uptick or anything like that in SKU rationalization in the last quarter or the last couple of quarters, but certainly a factor that has been there for the last number of years. In terms of your question on sustainability and sustainability driving innovation.

I would say that sustainability innovations that are also bringing cost benefits, and from our perspective, the key call out there is solutions that have an impact on food waste, probably have significantly increased over the course of the last number of quarters, probably starting in Q1. That has seen a progressive, I would say, increase in the level of engagement and level of interest from customers, because it's not only helping customers from a sustainability standpoint, it's also helping customers from a cost standpoint.

I would say broadly, sustainability is there as an underpin across most categories, but what has separated or changed, I would say, over the course of the last number of quarters is sustainability, let's say objectives or ambitions to drive cost savings as well.

Heidi Vesterinen
Financial Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to William for closing remarks.

William Lynch
Head of Investor Relations, Kerry Group

Thanks. Thank you very much, operator. Listen, thanks everyone for joining us and thanks for taking the time to go through your questions with us today. If there's any follow-ups, please reach out to the IR team. Listen, we wish you a good day. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.

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