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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Apr 29, 2020

Speaker 11

We will now start the Samsung SDI 2020 first quarter earnings conference call. This conference call will start with a presentation by Samsung SDI, followed by a Q&A session with the analysts. If you have any questions, please press star one on your phone. Now we will start the company's presentation.

Yoon-Tae Kim
VP of Business Management Office, Samsung SDI

Good afternoon. I am Yoon-Tae Kim, Vice President of the Business Management Office at Samsung SDI. Before we begin, I would like to introduce our management team attending today's conference. Our CFO, Young Kwon, Head of the Battery Strategic Marketing team, Michael Son, and Head of the Electronic Materials Strategic Marketing team, Hwang Sung-kim, are with us this afternoon. We will now start the 2020 Q1 earnings call. First, we will announce our first quarter 2020 results. Q1 revenue recorded KRW 2,397.5 billion, a 15% decrease from the last quarter. By business division, battery revenue recorded KRW 1,793.6 billion, a 19% decrease QoQ, caused by off-season and COVID-19. Electronic materials revenue recorded KRW 602 billion, a 1% decrease QoQ.

Operating profit increased QoQ with KRW 54 billion, we saw pre-tax loss of KRW 9.6 billion, due to financial costs lost from equity method earnings and others. Net profit turned to profit with KRW 700 million. Next, I will move on to our financial status on the right-hand side. Assets as of the end of the quarter were KRW 19,886.9 billion, up by KRW 34.8 billion QoQ. While the value of listed securities went down, tangible assets and cash equivalents went up. Liabilities increased to KRW 7,422.6 billion, up by KRW 203.8 billion QoQ, as a result of an increase of debt. Shareholders' equity recorded KRW 12,464.3 billion, a KRW 196 billion decrease caused by dividend and other comprehensive income. Next is our first quarter performance by business division and second quarter outlook.

Mid to large-sized battery division saw a decrease in revenue QoQ. Automotive battery sales decreased due to seasonality, and ESS revenue also declined QoQ, caused by weak domestic demand. Still, both automotive battery and ESS continued high growth YoY. Next quarter, we expect a slight revenue increase QoQ. For automotive battery, although EV sales are projected to decrease, we expect that higher sales volume of PHEV will make the total revenue similar to the last quarter. ESS sales are expected to rise, driven by the U.S. utility project. Moving on to our small-sized battery business. First quarter small-sized battery revenue went down QoQ. Cylindrical battery sales declined due to weak demand caused by off-season and COVID-19.

Polymer battery revenue saw the similar level to the last quarter, driven by a new launch of flagship smartphones, though the smartphone market was weak. In the second quarter, small-sized battery will recover its sales thanks to cylindrical battery. As to the cylindrical battery, it is expected that the sales of tools, cleaners, and e-scooters and others will go up, driven by seasonality. It will not be as high as we expected early this year due to COVID-19. Polymer battery will be impacted by the weak smartphone market. Next, we are moving on to electronic materials business. In Q1, we saw decreased revenue QoQ. Semiconductor materials had steady sales as DRAM demand went up. Polarizer films saw a slight increase in revenue, driven by large LCD TV. OLED materials saw decreased revenue due to low demand.

In the second quarter, the revenue is foreseen to be similar level to the last quarter. Semiconductor materials sales will go up with the demand increase of server DRAM, but display material sales are likely to go down due to low demand caused by COVID-19. This completes the presentation, and we will now begin the Q&A session. All questions and answers will be interpreted in English consecutively. Please follow the operator instructions to ask questions.

Operator

Now Q&A session will begin. Please press star one, that is star and one, if you have any questions. Questions will be taken according to the order you have pressed the number star one. For cancellation, please press star two, that is star and two on your phone.

The first question will be presented by Jay Kwon from JPMorgan. Please go ahead with your question.

Jay Kwon
Analyst, JPMorgan

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Speaker 11

Thank you. I have two questions. The first question is about the business impact due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation. Can you describe the business impact for Samsung SDI by dividing the first half and the second half of this year? What kind of key risks do you see and how are you countering them? Second question that I have is about CapEx plans. Given once again the COVID-19 impact, are there any changes to your CapEx plans this year? In particular, are you going to maintain your plans of expanding the Hungarian automotive battery plant?

Kwon Young-choon
Head of Business Support Office, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your first-

Kwon Young-choon
Head of Business Support Office, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your first question about the impact of COVID-19 on our business and how we plan to respond to that first half and second half. Despite the spread of COVID-19 during first quarter, I think we were able to avoid direct impact on our business. Looking forward to the second quarter where we are, we do expect that there will be a decrease in downstream demand due to COVID-19 during Q2. Even though there will be some differences between our business divisions, we do think that in Q2 our sales would also decrease versus our original plan. For example, the small size batteries, which has a higher dependence on the IT downstream sectors, may actually experience a larger relative impact versus our other business divisions. From the third quarter, we do think that the situation, the demand may gradually start to improve.

Still, I think due to the ongoing COVID-19 situation, all forecasts are still very fluid. We are preparing plans for each of the different scenarios, preparing measures. We are also at the same time carefully monitoring the situation on the customer demand side as well as the market situation, so that we will be able to operate our business very flexibly and in a timely manner depending on the changes. In terms of risk management, we have checked the key risks in our production, sales, and purchasing these areas, and we are managing them so that we do not experience going forward any disruptions in our business operation. We have also been preparing plans of optimizing our resource operation depending on each of these scenarios.

We are undergoing unprecedented challenging business environment, but we will focus all of our capabilities in overcoming the situation so that once we are through this situation, we will be able to take the company to the next level.

Kwon Young-choon
Head of Business Support Office, Samsung SDI

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Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your second question about our CapEx plans. Given the potential change in the demand due to COVID-19, we do plan to take a flexible approach to our CapEx this year and make adjustments regarding, for example, investment size or schedules as needed according to the market situation. That being said, in the case of the automotive batteries, we have been carrying out capacity expansion plans according to the mid to long-term volume plan that which we have already agreed with our customers. Currently there have been no particular changes to our expansion plans. In that regard, regarding the Hungary plant that you've mentioned, the Hungary plant expansion is also underway as originally scheduled.

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Operator

[Non-English content] The next question will be presented by Woo J o from HSBC. Please go ahead with your question.

Woo-young Jo
Analyst, HSBC

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Speaker 11

I have two questions related with the EV and batteries. First question is there are some talks that Europe may ease its emission regulations to cope with COVID-19's impact. What are your views? In that context, do you think that this may have any impact on future EV demand? Second question is due to many European automotive OEMs having to go through a shutdown of their plants, there is concern that there may be a negative impact on automotive battery demand due to this. Given the fact this year automotive battery business was expected to record high growth, do you think the current situation, especially around European auto OEMs, will have any disruption to your business plans? In connection with that, can you give us an update on your Gen 5 development plans?

Could there be any delays or changes of customer plans, especially due to the impact of COVID-19?

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your first question, which was about the talk of easing of emission regulations in Europe and the impact this may have in future EV demand. As you mentioned, with the European economy facing challenges due to COVID-19, some automotive related organizations have asked for easing of carbon emission regulations. As far as we know, there has been no official EU level discussion on any easing regulations. On the other hand, major automotive OEMs have already started serious R&D and investments for EV adoption, and OEMs such as BMW, Volkswagen, and Daimler have recently announced that they will comply with carbon emission regulations as planned. Given the fact that many European countries think that promoting the energy transition related industry could be a way to overcoming the economic difficulties due to COVID-19, we believe that European countries are expected to maintain their green energy policies.

Overall, when we consider all of these factors, even though COVID-19 may have some short-term impact on EV demand and sales, we expect that the EV market will be maintaining the growth trend in the mid to long term.

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your second question about the battery going forward. As you mentioned, major European automotive OEMs, actually we're being told that major key European OEMs have restarted some of their planned operations from late April, and we're being told by customers that they expect to go back to normal operation of their production from May. If that happens on a full year basis, we do not expect to see any major disruptions on our sales level. Even though there is quite a lot of uncertainty remaining in terms of automotive demand and also in terms of when our customers will return to normal operation. I think one important or one interesting fact is that due to COVID-19, while internal combustion engine vehicle sales declined sharply in March on a year-on-year basis. During this period, EV sales actually continued to increase.

This is a good sign saying that this increasing growth trend of EV market will continue even in the second half. Given that outlook, we will focus on product development and also preparing for mass production so that we will be able to meet growing automotive battery demand. Regarding Gen5 batteries, according to our plan, Gen5 batteries are scheduled for full scale supply starting from next year, 2021, and we currently remain on schedule with the development as originally planned through close collaboration with our customers. Currently, actually the product development has been completed and we are currently working in parallel on testing the product and also preparing for mass production. We have not seen any particular changes regarding customer demand either.

Yoon-Tae Kim
VP of Business Management Office, Samsung SDI

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Operator

[Non-English content] The next question will be presented by Sang-Uk Kim from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead with your question.

Sang-Uk Kim
Analyst, Credit Suisse

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Speaker 11

I have two questions. The first question is about the polarizing film business. Due to COVID-19, there is weak demand on the LCD TV side, and also one of their major customers has announced that they will be folding their business gradually until year end. What will be the impact to your polarizing film business given these external factors? Second question is about the ESS business, which is also, I'm assuming, impacted by COVID-19. Can you give us some more details of an update on the ESS business? Can you give us an update on the additional safety measures that you have been implementing regarding your ESS?

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Hwang Sung-kim
Head of Electronic Materials Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your first question about our polarizer film business. Yes, during Q1 due to COVID-19, some LCD panel makers had to suspend their production, which did lead to a decrease in overall LCD production. On the other hand, the panel companies continued production of large size TV panels and so we were also able to maintain solid sales, especially around large size polarizer films. From Q2 panel makers are starting to return to normal production, and even if TV demand overall becomes weak in the remainder of the year, demand for large premium TVs we expect is likely to remain solid. We are planning to minimize the impact of COVID-19 by especially focusing on expanding our sales around large size and functional products.

Regarding our customers plans of gradually exiting from its LCD business, we currently do not expect that this will have a significant impact on our polarizer film business. I think this has already been proven of how we have coped as the customer actually has been continuing to downsize its panel business. While that happened, we were able to actually manage to grow our polarizer film revenue by leveraging our technology and also diversifying our customer base. As of last year already, Chinese customers accounted for more than 70% of our overall business, and that share is expected to grow even more. The impact of our customers exit from the LCD business on our polarizer film business expected to be minimal.

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your second question about the ESS business and the impact to the business from COVID-19, and also an update on our ESS safety measure implementation. Well, for the ESS business, because a large part of our ESS business is for power facilities and infrastructure that are being installed as part of a long-term power supply plan. Actually, impact due to COVID-19 on our ESS business has been very limited. Also, because mostly all governments allow travel and installation work related with power infrastructure because that's an essential facility, ESS installation hasn't faced difficulties due to COVID-19 either. On the other hand, many countries are expected to include renewable energy policies as a major pillar to their economic stimulus packages in response to COVID-19. That is expected to actually help support mid to long term ESS demand.

Regarding the additional safety measures for ESS that we have been implementing in Korea. Currently the progress of implementation is now at 70%, which is on target, and we plan to complete the implementation within the first half of this year as originally scheduled, so that once that is finished in the second half, we will be able to focus our capabilities in winning new projects to contribute to better besiness results.

Yoon-Tae Kim
VP of Business Management Office, Samsung SDI

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Operator

[Non-English content] The next question will be presented by Hyun soo Kim from Hana Financial Investment. Please go ahead with your question.

Hyun soo Kim
Analyst, Hana Financial Investment

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Speaker 11

I have two questions. First question is about the polymer battery business. Given the fact that there's quite a lot of concern around smartphone demand and the market globally due to COVID-19, can you give us an update on your polymer battery business outlook this year? Second question is about the OLED materials business. This is also tied into the decrease in smartphone demand globally. Many are saying that that will also lead to a weak mobile OLED market. On the other hand, you are expecting significant growth in the OLED materials business this year. What would be the impact on your business plans?

Michael Son
Head of Automotive and ESS Battery Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your first question about our polymer battery business and the impact from the smartphone market being weak. As you mentioned, there was globally a weak demand for smartphones. In first quarter, at least, especially thanks to the effects of our major customer launching its flagship model, we were able to record revenue that was in line with our original plans. Q2 will be the period when we have the full impact of COVID-19, and downstream demand is likely to weaken in the second quarter. The positive effects of flagship launches will decrease in the second quarter. Looking for second quarter, we do expect polymer battery sales to be quite challenging. During Q2, we do see the opportunity of getting support in terms of revenue from the battery sales to mass segment handsets.

As the impact of COVID-19 hopefully dissipates as we approach the second half, and considering the fact that key customers are planning many new model launches this fall, we hope to see a gradual improvement in our sales.

Hwang Sung-kim
Head of Electronic Materials Strategic Marketing Team, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

To answer your second question about our OLED materials. Our OLED material revenue decreased versus a fourth quarter of last year due to traditional low seasonality, one factor, and also the impact from COVID-19. We expect this revenue decrease trend to continue in the second quarter. In the second half, with new flagship smartphones lining up for launch, and also many Chinese handset makers preparing to introduce new mass segment smartphones featuring OLED displays, we expect demand for OLED material to increase. Therefore, even though revenue is likely to decrease somewhat in the first half, we anticipate a recovery in the second half, so that on a full year basis, we are expecting to maintain a growth trend similar to last year.

Yoon-Tae Kim
VP of Business Management Office, Samsung SDI

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Speaker 11

We will take one last question.

Operator

[Non-English content ] The last question will be presented by Sung Kyu Kim from Daewoo. Please go ahead with your question.

Sung Kyu Kim
Analyst, Daewoo

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Speaker 11

I have two questions. First question is about the small size battery business. The global weak economy is impacting many application markets for the cylindrical batteries. For example, including power tools. In that context, can you give us an update on your outlook of cylindrical battery sales this year? Second question is about your semiconductor-related materials business. I think despite all of the difficulties brought on by COVID-19, the semiconductor industry is expected to fare relatively better than other industries. Can you first of all, share your insight with the semiconductor industry outlook, and also share with us your expectations for the semiconductor materials sales this year? To answer your question about the cylindrical battery sales outlook, as you mentioned in first quarter, overall consumption in all areas was weak, and outdoor activities were limited due to COVID-19, which drove down sales of major cylindrical battery applications.

This impact, unfortunately, is expected to continue in the second quarter, and so we see the need to adjust our full-year sales plans for cylindrical batteries. However, second quarter is traditionally the start of the high seasonality for major applications such as power tools, gardening tools, vacuum machines, or EVs, which will help increase second quarter sales at least versus first quarter. Also, even though market outlook for the second half remains challenging, we will focus on achieving another full year of growth on a full year basis by expanding our sales to applications such as TWS and EVs. Regarding your last question about semiconductor business and our materials business for semiconductors. As you know, while mobile DRAM demand appeared to decline due to COVID-19, server DRAM demand is growing in connection with more and more people working or learning from home. For example, more people are playing games.

Even though we still need to wait and see for the actual impact due to COVID-19, as of now, it seems that overall wafer input may increase, driven especially by the increased demand for server DRAMs, despite the decrease in mobile DRAM demand. Semiconductor material demand is directly tied to wafer input, an increase in wafer input would provide a solid source of demand for our products on a full year basis. That completes our conference call. If you have any further questions, please forward them to our IR team. Thank you very much.